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More From the DROID Bionic FCC Filing: Inductive Battery Cover, No Simultaneous 3G Voice-Data, Top and Bottom Shots (Updated)

So we’ve finally had some time to really dig through the FCC filing of the DROID Bionic that went live today and just wanted to point some things out.  First, is the inductive battery charging which we talked about on Friday when we first saw under the hood of this beast.  There were prongs beneath the battery cover that led us to believe we would have wireless charging, and we are getting pictures of the cover today.  While it looks to add some thickness (as all inductive covers do), it also looks like it will even out the hump – leaving you with a perfectly flat back to the phone.  Got to love that.  

Next, we took a deeper look at the user manual and found some confirmations on things like the screen (4.3″) and also the fact that it could be a global device.  The manual talks about roaming in 200+ countries using GSM radios, so unless they pulled that section from the DROID3, DROID2 Global or Pro (SEE UPDATE BELOW), you can tack on another plus to the DROID Bionic.  Dual-core, 4G LTE and a global roamer?  Sign me up.

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Here is a look at the top and bottom of the phone.  Not too thick and not too thin.  We get a solid view of that bottom sloping chin that sort of matches the DROID3.  We’re definitely hoping that the lock switch has moved on the final version though.  Top left would not be the easiest thing to hit for those of us that talk with our right hands:

We should also point out that the manual appears to be a bunch of filler pulled from previous devices, so by no means is all of this official.  The screen and global capabilities more than likely are, but the version of Blur you are seeing and some of the other OS details could differ when this phone is finally released on September 8 (rumor).  Also, we’re pulling for a September 1 pre-order to go live – would certainly make sense if the device was going to hit stores on the 8th.

Update:  It’s definitely looking like this WON’T be a global device after all.  The filing itself makes no mention of the device having GSM radios in it.  Like we said above, this manual was patched together from a variety of devices and should not be taken as gospel.  The actual tests performed on the device should be and they say LTE/CDMA/Bluetooth/WiFi:

The Bionic, unlike the HTC Thunderbolt, will NOT be able to do 3G voice and data simultaneously either:

And if you want to see some much prettier shots, be sure to check out our two exclusive galleries from last week:  here and here.

Cheers to Gustafson for the global and simultaneous data finds!

  • Legoturte92

    I think Imma go buy myself a GSII and a Droid Bionic, open them up, take out everything and stuff it in my OG Droid. That way I will have a superphone minus the mass of electrical tape.

  • Anonymous

    one thing that has been missed in all this back and forth about voice and data is that it has been stated several times in this article that the user guide they have is apparently pieced together from several different units

  • Madcow06

    OMG droid-life has regrettably become a haven for whiney tech bitches. I feel like this site would be better without comments at all.

  • Madcow06

    OMG droid-life has regrettably become a haven for whiney tech bitches. I feel like this site would be better without comments at all.

    • http://www.droid-life.com Tim-o-tato

      I think it’s good to see sooo many people adamant about this. It’s not just tech in general, but a hobby. Sometimes it gets a little out of hand, but that happens. 

    • Anonymous

      Normally I’d get mad at such a stupid comment but it started with the phrase OMG so I know that the person saying it was obviously not worth worrying about. 

      • Madcow06

        You may not likebit but its the truth. I’ve loved this site from day one, still love the articles. But the comments are getting out of control. Itbused to be people giving tips to others and having conversations without name calling. Now 75% of the comments on here are people insulting each other because they like a different phone for whatever reason than someone else.

  • Constantine Smith

    I’m not saying which for is better but I do know that I use Voice and Data all the time on my T-Bolt.. it’s just so natural to be on the phone and want to look something up at the same time. I do like 6 things on my phone at once.. and the T-Bolt some times slows downs and kills me.. was hoping the Bionic was going to be my new phone since I’ve been waiting for it since I heard about it in Afghanistan.. Now it looks like I will have to wait for something else and go from 6 to 3 things at the same time.

    • Interstellarmind

      wait for the htc vigor…

  • Interstellarmind

    not a deal breaker, admittedly, …but not having simultaneous data and voice is totally dropping the ball. htc’s lookin’ better.

  • http://twitter.com/Scotty_Braun Scotty Braun

    can anyone thats good with comps try to unblur the section E on the Verizon MAP sheet from the other day, that has the list of all the phones and launch dates?..  I really want to know whats written under there!

  • Michael D

    Did anyone happen to notice this line in the FCC cover letter:
    “The WCDMA/GSM network functions have been disabled by the firmware and are SIM locked by all US operators on this product”
    Does this mean the phone could be used overseas (with outrageous roaming fees paid to VZW)?

    • Anonymous

      It’s not a world phone, the Droid 3 is though.

  • Anonymous

    So does this mean you are going to grab this kellex? Then again you get like every phone so what makes this any different.

  • Real

    bionic will rape. stop your QQ.

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  • Anonymous

    so… does anyone know how big the battery in the Bionic is?

    • Anonymous

      It was leaked at 1900 mAH

    • TomHolmes

      Everything we’ve heard so far points to 1735 or 1750. We should know soon. Have you seen how physically big it is? Pretty impressive so I expect the rumors are correct.

      • Anonymous

        yea it looks big hope its good

    • Anonymous

      1900 mAh. How to interpret that is up to you. The Atrix has a 1930, and its battery life is apparently nothing to write home about.

  • Steel876

    Ill stick with the d3…after using the keyboard, I could never go back to those crappy on screen ones.

    • Guest

      ARE YOU CRAZY I GUESS U HAVE NOT TRIED SWIFTKEY NOR FLEXT9 I WAS A PHYSICAL KEYBOARD LOVER UNTILL I GOT MY DROID X I CANT NEVER GO BACK TO PHYSICAL KEYBOARD

      • Jason

        I love having the physical keyboard as a back up when my ROM is glitching and the screen is whackin out I can always rely on the physical one to work. I’m know you can always battery pull till they do away with as well.

      • James_Ever

        Tried it and hated it, its not for me and with my hands being so big, a physical keyboard is a must. Everyone has their preferences…

  • Nkmett15

    To recap on my comment that apparently started some arguments….I didn’t mean that this is going to be a bad phone…just not what it was originally supposed to be. It was supposed to be the best and most advanced smart phone around. Now it just simply is not. It will most likely be out performed in daily usage by the Galaxy S2 and doesn’t even match up to specs with it. I just would be mad if I waited all of this time just for this one phone….Face it’s not as good as it was hyped to be, but I’m sure it will be a pretty good phone. Maybe when I get 4G across the entire state of GA I will be more impressed that a phone has 4G with a dual core or maybe something better than just dual by that time….but until then…it just doesn’t impress me. That’s just my opinion…hopefully this comment doesn’t start more immature arguments about a dumb phone.

    • Jjjjj

      Exactly where are you getting this info from?  First off, who said this was suppose to be the best and most advanced smart phone….especially when people were wanting specs from the Atrix. Secondly, how dod we know that this phone will not be the most advanced smart phone upon release?  Third, what exactly was this phone hyped up to be….and I mean hyped up by Moto…not readers and the media.  Fourth, how does it not match up with the specs of the Galaxy S2………especially since you live in GA, and there are not confirmed specs for the US version.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OOO7GVPXWATBC75FGMUTLHJJME SjB

        well…it WILL be the best and most advanced smart phone when it comes out, unfortunately that’ll only last about a month IF THAT, when it was supposed to be for the difference of when it was supposed to come out and 3rd qtr

        • Anonymous

          Really?  What’s coming out that will be better?  Don’t say the GS2 or Vigor.

          • Booboolala2000

            Vigor. Lol

          • Interstellarmind

            J-McClane, you can’t ask that question… and then tell people not to give the true answer.

            that’s like asking, “what’s 2 + 2? don’t say 4!!!”come on, man. either slap a “/sarcasm” on there or stop being fanboy-ish.

          • Anonymous

            Why don’t you start using your brain for once.  I’ve already explained many times why the GS2 is not better and the only reason anyone knows the Vigor even exists is because of a single rumor lacking any real information or pictures!  I mean seriously, how the f*ck does anyone know the Vigor will be better when they know jack shit about it?!  Get real.  The only people here being fanboys are the dumbasses jumping to conclusions because it’s made by their preferred brand or simply out of hate for Motorola.

          • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

            you’ve explained why the GS2 is better for you…

      • Nkmett15

        It was supposed to be “The End of Waiting.”  Everyone, including myself, was really excited for the phone and for good reason. If it was released when it was originally scheduled to be then it would have been just that, but here we are…months later with what is supposed to be a much better version, but seems to just be an upgraded D3 or DX2…. which are what the original Bionic might have been equivalent to, but that is arguable considering the time it was originally scheduled to be released. The specs I am getting are strait from the Droid Life review of the Galaxy S II. I also got the specs for the Bionic off of Droid Life as well. I understand that the particular phone in the review is not the U.S. version, but it is out there, so I believe that it is fair to compare the Bionic to it being in the U.S. or not. To start off, the Bionic is going to have a dual core processor clocked at 1GHz vs the GS2′s 1.2GHz. If I recall correctly the Bionic will have the same Pentile screen as on the D3 and DX2 vs the GS2′s Super AMOLED Plus screen…be it a little over saturated, but most definitely better. On a minor note… the Bionic’s ffc is not 2MP like the GS2′s. I guess the only thing that it really has over the GS2 is 4G…which may change in the future…like everything I said about the GS2, but for right now, that is how the Bionic stacks up against the Galaxy S II. I believe the new Bionic will be a great phone as long as it doesn’t have major battery issues, lag issues, etc, but just won’t be the latest and greatest even on it’s launch date…whenever that is…..

        • Anonymous

          You’re arguing over a 200 MHz difference?  That’s being petty and nothing a little overclocking can’t handle.  Besides, it’s not like the OMAP4 is slow or anything at 1 GHz.  I don’t care about the FFC and the Bionic will also have a larger battery.  What it comes down to is 4G and that AMOLED+ screen.  Personally I would prefer LTE but if the GS2 has it then I’ll get the GS2 for the screen which just cannot be beat.

          • Guest

            GS2 DOES NOT HAVE HDMI I TAKE THAT OVER 200MHZ LOL YOU GOT TO LOVE HDMI MIRROR

        • Anonymous

          ‘end of waiting’ was referring to the dual core and LTE connectivity, which it will have. GSII might be a 3G phone unless they change the chassis. But then it’ll end up as thick as Charge. Defeats the ‘thin’ advantage of GSII.

          Also, hard clacky plastic just isn’t my thing. I have the Nexus S for overseas use and as much as I love the screen and super fast stock android build, it just feels cheap. Scratches easily too.

          Clock speed also doesn’t say everything. The Exynos at 1.2Ghz might be about the same as the OMAP4 at 1Ghz. Much like desktop/laptop CPUs, it’s how the chip behaves that matters. For example my Droid X’s single core 1Ghz OMAP3630 is infinitely slower than my ThunderBolt’s single core 2nd gen 1Ghz MSM8655 Snapdragon. Or even the 1Ghz Hummingbird in my Nexus S, though that might have a lot to do with the stock Android OS.

          Also, TouchWiz 4 seems heavier than the newer Blurs, and since the trend is lighter every newer moto phone so far (Defy, Atrix, DX2, D3, Photon), the overhead for the SII’s TW launcher might negate the 200Mhz advantage, even if they use the same proc.

          Pentile LCD vs S.AMOLED, I’ll leave that to preference. I like NS’s S.AMOLED, but can’t use it outdoors. While S.LCD isn’t that much better either in the sun. I think another important aspect other than pixel density or color saturation is the depth of screen. The closer to the glass the better.

          FFC…I’ve never used the FFC to take pics, just Tango, GTalk, and Skype. I don’t think I’ll ever use it for photography, so whatever is enough for video chat and bandwidth friendly is good enough. According to ppl I call, the 1.3MP FFC on my TBolt doesn’t seem to fair any worse than the 2MP FFC on my Xoom. But then again, the opposing parties are all looking at me on their phones anyway. Also, unless you’re a hot 19yr old narcissistic model, would it matter how your mug look like?

          Back to the screen. For me, resolution is more important because I get to much more of a web page and Gmail subjects at qHD compared to FWVGA, let alone the WVGA on the GSII. The extra 160 vertical pixels will be a big deal when it comes to stuff like web, mail, maps and spreadsheets, which I use often.

          One other minor thing, no micro USB on the GSII. Proprietary MHL plug. All my other Androids other than the G1 uses micro USB. Reminds me too much of the fruit phone.

          • Guest

            THE BEST POST SO FAR :) I KEEP TELLING THESE PEOPLE IT IS NOT THE PIXEL THE SENSOR AND THE LENS HAVE TO MATCH THE PIXELS TO LOOK SHARP THE VGA FFC ON THE PHOTON LOOKS WAYYYYY BETTER THAN MY FRIEND’S HTC SENSATION, WHICH IS HAS 1.3 FFC. PENTILE AND AMOLED IT IS A TIED IT DEPENDS ON THE PERSON I LIKE MORE NATURAL COLOR ONLY REASON I DONT LIKE ABOUT MY PENTILE IT IS THAT STILL A LITTLE SHINING ON THE LOWER BRIGHTINESS BUT I GOT USED TO :) BIONIC WILL BE BETTER THAN SG2

  • http://twitter.com/NemaCystX NemaCystX

    Some of these posters are becomming the Richard Yarell of Droid Life… seriously, stfu if your not planning to buy, I’m not planning to after seeing the new info but i’m not complaining with my keyboard till it breaks.

    I’m just looking forward to the upcoming devices, I post what my thoughts are but at the same time I try not to get into an argument.  When it comes to trolling, were becoming no better than the fruit lovers since they always do it to us.  We should show that were better than them in every way, and that includes not trolling.

    • Anonymous

      ha so true I am surprised he isnt on here saying how this will suck and the evo rules lol

      • Anonymous

        bla sprint blah blah my Evo 4g blah bla Evo 3D the best blah bla waaaaahhhh bionic on verizon. Yarrell

  • http://twitter.com/iiAmColour Sakina Solomon

    People are killin me with these childish ass arguments grow the hell up. 

  • Anonymous

     Sounds and looks good, I ain’t messing with it unless I know I can throw stock Android on it… Can’t wait to see how the battery holds up with the 4G drain….

    Just wishing Verizon would drop a Nexus phone on us this year…. JUST DO IT VERIZON!!! sheesh!

    • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

      Nexus Prime

      • Anonymous

        Yea but any confirmation on it coming to Verizon?

        • waiting

          what makes the nexus prime so good?

          • Anonymous

            A pure  Android experience with direct updates strait from Google!!! 

            It’s a  true developers/enthusiast dream device:)

        • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

          i’ve heard that it is, but theres nothing official out. it’s something we can definitely hope for though.

  • Chiefkent

    SGS II?

    • http://twitter.com/NemaCystX NemaCystX

      Galaxy SII has potential, alot of it.  Considering the Bionic isn’t exactly what Motorola boasted it would be, thats becoming more apparent, the Galaxy SII and the upcoming Vigor are definitely better devices.

      This device is essentially a Droid 3 without the Keyboard but with 4G and the webtop capabilities.

      • Nkmett15

        Thank-you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Guest

        1 G OF RAM BETTER BLUR BIGGER SCREEN BEST PENTILE BETTER DESIGN THE COMBINATION OF DROID 1 AND DROID X ON THIS BEAST ITS AWESOME

  • OG Droid

    I cant wait to get this phone then come back on this site and troll on every bit of info on the vigor and SGS2 so people can see how annoying it is. Dont post if you dont plan on getting it.

    • Anonymous

      LOL, I look forward to your trolling.

    • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

      I know right its unreal how many trolls there are…I thought that we were all on the same team but I guess people just need to hate to feel better about themselves….this phone will be great as well as the sgs2.as for the vigor that’s vapor ware for now and everyone swears by it and nothing is even confirmed….there has been one leak and it didn’t have pictures or any kinda confirmation as to what it will entail

      • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

        lol you’re the one who started trolling about other phones

      • Guest

        THEY TROLLS ARE ASS KISSER I BET IF MOTO UNLOCK THE BOATLOADER THEY WILL BE KISSING MOTO ASS LOL

  • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

    People you can voice and data over 4g so go troll somewhere else or wifi

    • Anonymous

      Not trying to be a fanboy for any other side here, but dude, come on. There just isn’t enough coverage for that to be a legitimate argument yet. Nobody is trolling, you’re just not thinking.

      • Anonymous

        People will find any reason, no matter how small, to cry about and troll over.  Simultaneous voice and data?  Seriously?  That’s the last feature on the list I care about. Been doing just fine without it on my OG Droid all this time.

        • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

          I agree really voice andata is thatbig of a deal breaker…I’m on wifi 90% of the time so I could do it if I wanted I think I have done it once since I got my og droid, droid x, thunderbolt, its not a deal breaker feature

        • Tarsis Brito

          why they do not mention the lack of hdmi and hdmi mirroron the sx2. i am rocking my droidx2 with the big screen right now putting the fan trolls on their places on the sx2

    • Anonymous

      IF verizon didn’t keep ignoring places… they won’t apparently cover with 4G… I guess a population over 200K is not important to them… roughly 2nd /3rd largest metro-area in the state!
      Guess i’ll stick to the TunderBolt, apparently HTC is the only company smart enough to include the correct chip to support eHRPD…

      • http://AndroidTaskForce.com Chris Gustafson

        They all support eHRPD buddy. 

        Not sure exactly why the ThunderBolt can do Voice & Data at the same time. But all Verizon 4G LTE devices support eHRPD.

  • http://twitter.com/NemaCystX NemaCystX

    Looks like the FCC blocked access to the pages.  Motorola seems to have just remembered the NDA would expire today. lol

    Also, the Top of phone picture, is it my monitor or does that look like its already warping. Proves it’s cheap plastic

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1097190148 Brandon Girod

      No they didn’t. I’m looking at them right now. Unless Motorola requests to extend the confidentiality of the documents, it’s open and available to the public. After it’s been picked and pried through there is no reason to try and cover it back up. xD

      • http://twitter.com/NemaCystX NemaCystX

        Thats my mistake, after going through the Engadget links they work, but the ones posted here in the comments are blocked since there direct I assume.

        anyway, I took a look at everything and I’m not impressed by any of this new information, the webtop and desk dock thing seems interesting but I have my galaxy tab for stuff like that.  

        It mentions netflix in the manual which seems to be one of the selling points when this launches, which we all know its supported.

        And The new Blur screens in the manual, ugh, seriously too much blue and ugly UI.  If your going to call your phone a Droid, don’t use Blue…. use a matching color for its name.

        The design of the front looks nice though I have to admit, the gap between the screen and bezel on the edge gives it a nice look, almost like an outline to give it aesthetically, more appeal
        but I’m going to skip on this one, the dock capabilities and the design are nice i guess but i would rather have either a Sense device or the Galaxy SII with Touch Wiz 4.0 (I love it on my Tab)I give the Bionic a 3 out of 5,  Pass! lol

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  • sh

    Who buys a 4g phone for its 3g capabilities anyways? I’ll still stick with my charge tho. Open bootloader FTW!.

    • http://twitter.com/Justinwrites Justin True Anderson

      Those of us who want a big screen with a dual core and live in an area not scheduled for 4g for more than a year?  

      • http://twitter.com/NemaCystX NemaCystX

        wait a sec, so this is a 4G only phone!?  am I reading this correctly in your comment?

  • Nkmett15

    LOL at this thing! It definitely has not lived up to the hype at all! I’m glad I jumped ship on this thing for the X2! Anyone that has a DROID 3 or DROID X2 pretty much has the DROID Bionic minus the 4g. I would rather have the Thunderbolt over this considering you can talk and use the web (even though I don’t think I’d ever use it along with the ffc, but whatever…better to have than not to I guess). Good luck to you guys that are still buying it though……

    • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

      You need to understand that it can do voice and data on 4g just not 3g…..so lol at you for being a dumbass

      • Anonymous

        Except if you cant if you’re not in a 4G area with the Bionic, unlike the thunderbolt.

        … Dumbass.

        • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

          That’s your comeback….facepalm/

      • Nkmett15

        I guess, but what if your not in a 4G area…like many, including myself are not…That’s not my main point though…my point is this thing doesn’t bring much new to the table…..a dual core and 4G….nothing a D3 or DX2 with wifi can’t do.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1097190148 Brandon Girod

      Tegra 2, no ffc, 512MB of RAM, no LTE… yeah, sounds JUST like the Bionic. /facepalm. Enjoy your outdated phone, bud.

      • Nkmett15

        1. That’s why I included the D3 because it has a ffc
        2. I don’t even have 4G in my area along with many others around the country, so I really don’t have an outdated phone
        3. Does 512MB of RAM vs. 1GB really make a difference? Not in my opinion. Not after messing around with some of my friends phones that do have 1GB

        • http://twitter.com/NemaCystX NemaCystX

          It does if you have the hardware like the Bionic has.  The more ram the better so computing can be done faster.  Think of it like the CPU being a toll booth and the RAM being the lanes.  The more lanes the more cars can get through faster. so that means the more things the CPU can do faster even if its a dual core, RAM helps the CPU along. Thats the best analogy I can think of LOL

          on a smaller amount of RAM the ram has to empty itself and put in new data after each computing cycle, making it slower to get things done. It might not be noticeable on a dual core though, but we don’t know yet since there aren’t any 1GB RAM dual core phones yet, atleast I don’t think there are, at most there is 768mb.

          • Nkmett15

            Yes, that does make sense. I would like to have that in my X2 now that I think of it, but I don’t find it a necessity at all. It’s very fast and snappy with the Gingerbread update. I would have liked to have it though so it would have been more of an update from the original X, but that is a different discussion all together….by the way… I believe the HTC EVO 3D has a 1.2GHz Dual Core with 1GB of RAM…..

          • Anonymous

            The Photon as well as the Atrix has 1gb of DDR2 RAM along with the Evo3D. Also, not in the US, but the Pantech Vega Racer also has 1gb.

          • Guest

            EVO 3D HAS I G OF RAM NOT DDR2 RAM

          • Anonymous

            That’s what I said, no? I split the Evo out from the Moto DDR2s for that reason. Same with the Vega Racer.

          • Guest

            DROID X2 ITS GREAT IF YOU LIVE IN AN AREA WITH NO 4G I LIKE IT BETTER THAN DROID3 BIGGER SCREEN

        • Guest

          DROID 3 DOES NOT HAVE 1 G OF MEMORY ITS NOT DDR2 AND ITS NOT LET BIONIC WILL HAVE BEST BLUR AND WEBDOCK TOO NOT THE SAME AS BIONIC THANK YOU

      • Guest

        I AGREE I RECENTLY RECEIVED A DROIDX2 I WISH IT HAS FFC AND ONE G OF RAM BUT THE PHONE ITS FAST AND IT HAS HDMI MIRROR

  • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

    Voice and data over 3g is overrated

  • Micro

    Does this have a stock wireless cover included on the phone out of the box.?

  • joesred

    am I reading this right….. 
    DATA is NOT supported by 4g?

    • Anonymous

      it is you just cant do voice and data at the same time over 3g.

  • Anonymous

    I’m glad they went back to a OG DROID power button! Also is it just me or does it look like the DROID3 just without the slider

  • Legoturte92

    I still like the phone even though it wont have global capabilities. I hardly go out of the US anyway. I personally think that since a bunch of the high-end phones like the GSII will be coming out around the same time, Verizon and Motorolla may need to do something like add a free inductive battery cover or larger battery as an incentive to get people to purchase. I will be getting this phone none the less because I’ve been waiting to get rid of my OG Droid for a while. And for those who keep complaining about the locked bootloader, by the rate that the Android Dev team is growing and working it should be unlocked in no time, you just got to wait a little while. Just my 2 cents.

    • Legoturte92

      I do find the voice and data feature to have more merit than the global capabilities, but that’s just because I’m a college student unable to go around the world.

    • http://twitter.com/Justinwrites Justin True Anderson

      I’ve been waiting too and I’m not just impressed anymore.  I love OMAP processors, I like big screens, this phone just feels like Transmorphers instead of Trasnformers.  Starting to have my doubts.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_T6MLO2VQWBMAPYRKIDW2IZEZM4 sammyw2008

    No simultaneous voice and data… I might be keeping my TB after all. I don’t think I can live without that function!

    • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

      You can just on 4g

  • …..

    HAHA this is funny, everybody has been hyping up this phone for months and going crazy on the forums but today you all find out its just a droid 3 w/o the keyboard! lol wow amazing but idk why they would make a phone 4g lte without voice & data simultaneously……oh well on to the next

    • ChuckDz3

      how often do you use voice and data simultaneously? you sound like an at&t commercial 

      • …..

        all the time man, rooted thunderbolt running cm7 & gingeritis 3D ftw!

      • Colemanjj616

        You would probably use it more than you think either way it’s a feature that’s been out for a while now and it’s surprising more verizon smartphones have not added this feature. It takes one more thing away from carriers such as t-mobile and at& t to brag about.

        • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

          You can over 4g or if your on wifi

      • http://twitter.com/NemaCystX NemaCystX

        LOL best comment today

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I4J637NCS4OJDWICWETTFRVAEQ Anonymous

      If the D3 and the Bionic are the same phone, why is the bionic taking so long to release?

      • Guest

        ITS NOT SAME PHONE

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I4J637NCS4OJDWICWETTFRVAEQ Anonymous

      If the D3 and the Bionic are the same phone, why is the bionic taking so long to release?

    • Anonymous

      That’s your argument?  LOL!  Very lame buddy.  That feature is not something I consider to be important at all.  Btw, that’s only over 3G, it can do it over 4G.

      You sound mad your Thunderbolt is outdated.

  • joesred
  • slickrc

    by the way, i lasted 5 days with the droid 3 before i returned it.  i heard about the bionic, targa and samsung stratosphere all coming out around the same time.  the ultimate phone would ve been the droid 3, but with 4g service.  well it does exist, on a company called bell mobile in canada. 

    • Anonymous

      That’s because it uses HSPA+ which they call 4G.  It’s just an updated GSM radio, much easier to implement and not as fast.

  • joesred

    I have a question….

    on the FCC page link

    https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1498025

    figure 10 …. on a lapdock?

    and multiple of the pics refer to it a phantom?

  • Slickrc

    alright.  im looking, reading and wondering.  First, the so call prongs for the wireless charging i dont think so.  the picture shows its for the sd card.  about global, im sure if u switch the 4g sim card for an international sim, its will work to make phone calls but not the same speed when browsing. 

  • Al

    Dumb question does this come stock with the phone? Wireless charging? I know I’m shooting high.

  • Bullet Tooth Tony

    Sounds like the Thunderbolt is still better. Simultaneous voice and data, I didn’t know what I was missing. I pretty much use it every day while, at the very minimum, using navigation and talking…. Hands free of course. The I’ll take function over power any day. Seems like a step backwards too with the precedent being set with the bolt…

    • Anonymous

      I’ve used SVDO with my Thunderbolt twice. You’re right — it’s a very, very handy feature. But I just don’t find myself using it so often that it would prevent me from buying another phone. But if HTC could do it, there’s no reason why Motorola or any other decent manufacturer can’t do it. There’s no reasonable technical reason, it’s just laziness.

      • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

        yea but you can over 4g

        • Anonymous

          See my reply to your other comment, complete with map. There just isn’t enough LTE coverage at this point for that to be a legitimate point/argument. 2/3 years down the road, sure. But right now, no.

          • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

            Not enough its in all major and semi major cities….so you won’t buy this phone because you can’t do voice or data at the same time on 3g? Seems pretty petty to me….you can do it on wifi too so if you have wifi or 4g you will be OK but arguing about this is dumb because in realirty I would never use it….so just buy a thunderbolt if its thatig a deal

          • Anonymous

            How many major cities can you commute between without losing LTE coverage? Hardly any outside of the East coast. City coverage is important, yes. But coverage of the nation’s great interstate highway system is extremely important, and I think you’re wrongly dismissing it as a non-issue.

            And more than 2/3 of Americans live in the suburbs. Coverage in the suburbs just isn’t there yet. It will be soon enough, but right now it’s not. I’m not arguing about the future as you seem to be, I’m arguing about right now. The coverage is not there yet. If I don’t have LTE or wifi when commuting/traveling on the interstates, then simultaneous LTE/voice just isn’t good enough.

            Now, again, let me go back to my original reply to this thread. I’ve used SVDO twice with my Thunderbolt. It’s really nice. I don’t have a huge need for it. But my point is that there are people that do have a need (or rather a use) for it, and it’s an invaluable feature for many of them. To say that LTE coverage at this point is sufficient enough for these people is a joke, pure and simple. Don’t insult them.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=710530141 Tyler Buchanan

            I really hope people aren’t using both voice AND data while commuting.. as if one or  the other wasn’t dangerous enough, both sounds lethal

          • Peter Bartholomul

            If you are driving a vehicle and using your phone as a gps which alot of people do that is using data. and if someone calls you or if you have to call someone else about something really important that can’t wait then that will be using voice and data at the same time while commuting. doesn’t sound too lethal or dangerous to me. but you can’t do that anyway on the Bionic. Unless the Bionics battery is strong enough to stay on 4g without draining the battery within a few hours.

          • Anonymous

            If you’re commuting and using your phone as a GPS, wouldn’t you have at least a charger for it anyways? Forget about staying on 4G without killing the battery, how about all that GPS and data use going on for navigation, 4G or not.

          • Peter Bartholomul

            not always. I don’t like using the car dock for any android phone. I don’t like having my $300 phone hanging from the window or dash board. since its kinda important to have with me and working. and it works perfect on 3g also. 4g just drains the battery quicker.

          • Nunyazz

            You need to look at a ‘real’ car dock. Not that crap that hangs off your window. Try pro-clip or something like that.

          • Bob

            the moto docks are amazing, if you don’t use one you are missing out.  a dock that makes it nicely visible at all times and charges is invaluable.  anytime you are having to look to your cup holder, that is extra time you are not looking to the road.

          • Peter Bartholomul

            not always. I don’t like using the car dock for any android phone. I don’t like having my $300 phone hanging from the window or dash board. since its kinda important to have with me and working. and it works perfect on 3g also. 4g just drains the battery quicker.

          • Anonymous

            With the newest version of Google Navigation, you can still use GPS while making a call. You will lose traffic data but the route is cached into the phone. I do this every day. As far as battery life, my Droid X is happily charging in the car dock.

          • Peter Bartholomul

            I never mentioned Google Navigation. Thats a good feature to have but there are more gps apps on android besides that one. I’m sure everyone doesn’t use Google Navigation if some of the other gps apps were in the top paid apps a few months ago. I personally use google navigation but everyone doesn’t and i was referring to more then just me and you. and I also wasn’t talking about the Droid X. I specifically mentioned the Bionic. And I’d rather not have my $300+ Droid Bionic phone hanging from my car window or dash board in the car dock. so the charging doesn’t always help.

          • Anonymous

            Yes, but what I was pointing out was the fact that GPS works while using voice when data is not available. It is a flaw in some of the GPS apps that they will not work without a data connection. I personally like having my GPS work independantly without data. Like when hunting for example. No voice, no data, GPS works fine. As far as the car dock, it is a personal preference. You can’t expect your phone to stream data and calculate GPS signals without hogging some juice though. A dock is easy to see, charges, and is better suited to use than a cup holder.

          • Anonymous

            i use a cupholder when using GPS on my phone…it works just fine…it doesnt look quite as nice and dandy…but it works…

          • Anonymous

            Lol. Function before fashion. When I got my X, they threw in the docks for free. Have been addicted ever since. Same deal for my wife’s charge. When your contract is due, call to cancel. They will re-up you and throw in extras for free to keep your business. You have to maintain your bluff until the last second to maximize. You also have to be a long time customer with a good payment history. ;)

          • http://profiles.google.com/cory.simpson Cory Simpson

            I work in Houston, live in a suburb 30 miles north (Spring) and have 4G data everywhere. 

          • Xdxdaustin

            How nice for you.

          • http://profiles.google.com/cory.simpson Cory Simpson

            I work in Houston, live in a suburb 30 miles north (Spring) and have 4G data everywhere. 

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Thomas-Walsh/5000529 Thomas Walsh

            Can you please point out the people to me who are not using the FREE Google navigation but rather a paid app? Those people need a talking to :).

          • Anonymous

            If simultaneous voice and data is that big of an issue to some people, they’re probably not on Verizon anyways. Simultaneous voice and data is rare on Verizon, so anyone seeking it is probably on another carrier or accepting the lack of it. Sure, it might be a selling point for some on Verizon, but I’m going to assume they’re probably the minority. Also, while its fine to argue LTE coverage isn’t comprehensive enough now, you sign a contract for 2 years. In two years at the rate Verizon is going, almost all major cities, minor cities, and highways will have LTE coverage. I realize some people would like that feature now, but that comes back to my original argument. There’s just not a wide selection of simultaneous voice and data phones on Verizon and there hasn’t been, so the people that demand this probably have contracts elsewhere.

          • Bullet Tooth Tony

            Simultaneous voice & data WASN’T a big issue…. til I got the Thunderbolt — you are very very correct in what you say.  Likewise, it wasn’t a big issue on AT&T either, because it only exists on their W-CDMA 3G network, which until last year was as much of a blip on the radar as LTE coverage is.  Now that I’ve “upgraded” and set myself a new standard for the Service Level that I expect to be provided with, I expect, bare minimum, that my devices adhere to that service level.  I may be one person, but I know I’m not alone in finding out how useful this truly is now that I’ve actually experienced it.  I’m the other side of the coin… I want a phone that fully utilizes the network I’m on… rather than a phone that seems more “future proof” for now, knowing full well I’ll be upgrading when it’s time anyway and blowing my previous expectations out of the water.

          • trumpet444

            Yeah, MOST major and minor cities. They have left out the entire freakin state of virginia though

          • Anonymous

            “And nothing of value was lost.”

            I kiiid, I kiiid! ;D

          • Chuckg73

            From a very good source that Richmond VA will launch 4g in October

          • http://www.facebook.com/japultra Jason Nguyen

            Isn’t the DC metro area covered? Isn’t that the most populated part of VA?

          • Adam

            I’m not one to give a civics lesson, but Washington DC is not part of VA, nor any other US state… come on guy, you knew that right?

            Coverage map is here:  http://network4g.verizonwireless.com/#/coverage

            Still looks pretty thin to me, but I get 4G coverage in California, so what do I care.   =)

          • Bullet Tooth Tony

            Indeed it is… but I have a feeling he means Hampton Roads, which is the largest metro actually IN Virginia… Fairfax is the largest population wise in the commonwealth, but it’s a County, and all its cities are unincorporated areas… Virginia Beach is the largest actual city, Hampton the 2nd largest city, and outside of Hampton Roads — Richmond the 3rd largest city, …

      • PSU_DI

        SVDO is exclusively by Qualcomm, so only the latest Qualcomm processors have this ability, and If I’m not mistaking the Bionic has a Texas Instruments OMAP 4430 dual-core processor which is why SVDO is a no go in the Bionic.  

    • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

      The thunderbolt better now that’s just funny….

      • angelface

        upcoming phones will be better than droid bionic but it wont be gx 2 nor vigor this phone will rule like atrix is doing on at&t and photon on spring

    • Anonymous

      Not a big deal, especially with LTE.

    • Anonymous

      Not a big deal, especially with LTE.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1097190148 Brandon Girod

      Except that you can use LTE data + CDMA voice… so as long as you’re using 4G you can still use navigation and voice simultaneous… and you’ve still got a single-core processor in your phone. :P

      • Anonymous

        LTE + Voice is true, yes, but the coverage map just isn’t large enough for that to be practical for anyone who travels outside of major metropolitan areas. And as for the single-core bit, I’m still waiting for any sort of reason to need a dual-core processor. I haven’t seen any sort of insane battery life from dual-cores as was hyped long ago. Really, the only reason I could see you needing a dual-core processor is to run blur with minimal lag. :P Enjoy!

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1097190148 Brandon Girod

          I can’t argue against someone who is fine with having old tech, but I can counter your points. :P Have you seen how many cities are supposed to be lit up with LTE by the end of the year? That’s not a very good excuse… I live in a LTE city, so I will be covered with simultaneous voice + data anyway. True, you can’t use both cores for one process, but I can use one core for one process and another for something else. Not to mention, multi-core is obviously the future of processing. Quad-core phones will probably be out this time next year… why would you wanna be stuck with single-core? Seems silly. :P Enjoy!

          • Anonymous

            So, when the next phone after the Bionic launches, are you going to rush out and buy it and drop the Bionic just because it’s suddenly “old tech”?

            And yes, I have seen how many cities are supposed to be lit up with LTE by the end of the year. But there’s much more to it than that. Cities all around me in Michigan have been lit up with LTE. But you also need to light up interstates running between those cities. You need to light up all the exciting data towers in a city (whereas LTE in my city isn’t on a number of towers lacking sufficient backhaul), not just a select few. You need to light up extremely rural areas with existing 3G coverage where it is sometimes hard to tell what city/township/village you’re actually in. At this point, there just isn’t enough LTE coverage for LTE+voice to be sufficient. In the future, sure. But not right now, so there is a use for SVDO with 3G.

            Driving around town, there are still lots of areas where I drop down from LTE to 3G for a short bit of time. Would be kind of annoying to lose a data connection if you’re on the phone with someone and using data for whatever reason (GPS, namely).

            On the subject of dual/quad cores, at this point nothing is optimized to use both cores. Heck, only just recently were all the big benchmarking applications updated to utilize multiple cores. You think you’ll see that kind of response for other applications? No, of course not. Don’t be silly. The rest of your argument is basically “you’re wrong because 2 and 4 are greater than 1, and you NEED to have the newest device, and suddenly when there are multi-core processors in mobile devices all single-core devices between obsolete”. Again, name some legitimate uses for multi-core processors on your mobile device, other than the generic “I can use one core for one process another for something else” non-answer of a reply. That’s right, you *can’t* name one, because right now, there are none. The significantly improved battery life claims have turned out to be nothing but hot air. Prove to me that there are significant, valuable reasons to purchase a new phone out of contract with a multi-core processor. Betcha can’t.

          • Monk

            Well driving around and losing what i assume you meant the map for the gsp (since the gps is standalone) just use google maps and download your commonly driven area (you can do 10 square miles at a time, and it downloads as many of those sections as memory allows)

          • Anonymous

            I thought GPS was still aGPS, but in testing it briefly on my Thunderbolt just now, it got a lock without a mobile data connection (airplane mode) with GPS on. So maybe it’s not, but I’ll have to do some more research.

            Still, point remains for any sort of other services. Downloading something on the go, or if wireless hotspot is running. I’ll admit, the number of times when this could be a problem are few and far between. But my argument about the lack of widespread LTE coverage still stands.

          • http://twitter.com/KansasJayhawker Jonathan Reid

            I think the maximum map squares you can download is 10.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1097190148 Brandon Girod

            Actually, yes, I probably will. I will also get it for cheaper than I purchased the Bionic for as well since I can sell the Bionic for $400 and buy the other phone at full retail for probably around $600. However, I probably won’t buy another phone until we have more advancement in other things other than processor speed. Skipping over your LTE post since it’s lame and not applicable to myself. The reason? Verizon is constantly expanding their coverage and always will. 2 years from now would I rather have a 3G phone or a 4G phone? Not a hard choice. 

            Right, I never said one was better than the other. However, 2 processors is better than one. It would be different if manufacturers were producing better performing single-core devices, but they aren’t. Do I want a 1GHz single-core device, or 2 cores clocked at 1.5GHz? Well, again, not a hard choice. Other than that you are trying to make an irrelevant argument. I never stated Android was/has apps optimized for dual-core. But technology improves, and when games/apps begin being optimized, I’d rather have a dual-core phone. You can argue all you want, but it’s as losing battle. Would you rather have a computer from 1995 or now? 

          • Guest

            COULD NOT AGREE MORE

          • Bullet Tooth Tony

            Poor analogies.  A computer I buy now isn’t going to lack the ethernet port I used to have for 10Mbps coverage in 1995, in fact, it’s likely going to have upgraded that to 10/100/Gig ethernet bare minimum, and have added Wireless N to boot… The power of a device is irrelevant if you can’t utilize it’s power to do what is now a VERY basic feature… that is, simultaneous voice and data.  A technologically inferior phone, the Thunderbolt, is capable of this feat.  That same phone also has access to every single app your new phone does, and will run them just the same, likely until long after you’ve upgraded from the Bionic til the next device.  On the OS level, dual-core support may be coming in Ice Cream Sammy… but how long will it take for apps to be fully upgraded to use them?  There’s still apps that haven’t been optimized for Gingerbread and Honeycomb… so I’d be willing to bet we’re talking years, plural.  And it isn’t just network function.  4G has gone down several times since December.  One time, nationwide.  So for your fallback network if you strictly operate in a 4G area like NYC or DC, you’re cool with having a poor air interface to it?  You’re cool with trusting Motorola with providing you with a good LTE radio, when they’re skimping out on the much, much cheaper eHRPD EVDO radio?  What about the handoffs from 4G to 3G?  Part of the reason why the eHRPD upgrade was so important, was so that a Voice-Over-LTE call wasn’t outright dropped when going zone to zone; since both would be able to handle IP-driven voice as opposed to being circuits vs IP…
             
            I’m sorry, but no simultaneous voice/data over 3G… it’s a complete non-starter for me.  It just doesn’t sound like it bodes well with everything they’ve taught us about how LTE will interact with CDMA.

          • Anonymous

            Your claims regarding Gingerbread and it’s lack of support for multi core processing are incorrect plain and simple.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK7vEjfKVjc&feature=player_embedded#at=73

            Pay particular attention to 1:12.

          • Anonymous

            I don’t think you fully understand how multi-core processors function under Android. Even if the applications you use do not support multi-core CPU’s, the OS does so there is still a major benefit to be had. For example, the system could be using some CPU cycles on core 0 to run background processes, or apps could be running in the background. On a single core CPU these processes would have to share CPU cycles thus lowering performance of your foreground application. With a multi-core processor an additional core can be turned on to take care of the applications CPU load making for better performance even when running single thread applications.

          • Anonymous

            I don’t think you fully understand how multi-core processors function under Android. Even if the applications you use do not support multi-core CPU’s, the OS does so there is still a major benefit to be had. For example, the system could be using some CPU cycles on core 0 to run background processes, or apps could be running in the background. On a single core CPU these processes would have to share CPU cycles thus lowering performance of your foreground application. With a multi-core processor an additional core can be turned on to take care of the applications CPU load making for better performance even when running single thread applications.

          • Droid 4G

            It’s too bad that you keep losing 4g. I don’t think I’ve ever had that happen to me but I only go to about 4 cities. As for the dal core, you have a point. However, the dual core on the Bionic is much faster and better than your any single core. It’s a cortex A9 while single cores are A8 based. So even if you’re only using 1 core, you’re getting more out of it. What’s more they save battery, even if the other core is never being used. Also dual cores mean better GPUs and that’s great. I have a thunderbolt, and the GPU on that thing is pretty crappy, it’s got nothing on my fascinate. Now w/ the Bionic we’ll have the same GPU as the original Galaxy S but supposedly clocked at 300mhz instead of 200mhz.
            Another reason why dual core is better is simply because you’re future proffing yourself. ICS is coming pretty soon, and that WILL take advantage of both cores. You don’t want to be stock w/ a single core while everyonelse enjoys the power of dual cores and the enhancements that they bring.
            So even if the other core was “dead” you’d still get take advantage of the newer chip and better gpu.

            It’s like why get a bean burrito, when I can get 2 beef burritos, even if it means I’ll have to wait to eat the other one, it’s still an extra burrito, and it’s a beef burrito, which is better. You know what I mean? ….lol

          • Anonymous

            Gingerbread does support multiple cores, ICS will likely be bringing GPU hardware acceleration across the board.

          • Guest

            I ONLY NEEDED  A FRONT FACING CAMARA AND A BETTER SCREEN WHEN I HAD MY DROID X AND THE BIONIC WILL GIVE ME MORE DUAL CORE LTE HDMI MIRROR OMAP WEBDOCK WHAT MORE CAN YOU ASK FROM THE BEST

        • Droid FTW

          Don’t be hating dude. This phone will be awesome. I’m deffinetily getting it, and I’m gonna rock the hell out of it. Atleast until the GSII drops, I’m getting that weather it’s 4G or not, though I’ve been using like 50gigs a month w/ 4G just streaming video all day at work. Not sure If I can do that on 3G.

          • Anonymous

            I’m only hating if the comment to which I replied was hating on single-cores for no valid reason. All I was attempting to do is point out that right now, the single-core vs. dual-core argument is petty and stupid, since a single-core can do as much in the Android world right now as a dual-core can. Not that that will hold true in the future, but at this point there is no reason for a dual-core processor. Not yet, anyways.

          • Anonymous

            Dual is faster than single, end of discussion.  Gingerbread most definitely supports multiple cores.  Not to mention much faster GPUs.

          • Guest

            do you have droidx2 or another phone ?

          • Guest

            once they gs2 comes to usa and it is not what these fool expected they will regret not having the bionic

          • http://twitter.com/chqueed charles rogers

            If they don’t buy the bionic first, they will be unable to buy one in the future?

        • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

          Haha since sense doesn’t lag? Or touchwiz? Comon bro give me a break troll somewhere else you dont like Motorola that’s fine but why comment are you that insecure with yourself? If you tell me 1gb ddr2 ram, dual core omap, Ffc, 1900 battery, qhd screen, inductive charging, laptop dock, great build quality, way better home launcher, 4g, that isabeast of a phone and if you can’t come to terms with that you are a biased fanboy plain and simple….give some credit this will bethebest phoneon vzw when it drops so just stop and do us all a favor and don’t comment and leave

          • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

            by the time this phone drops, there will be better phones out (SGSII and the Vigor). how can you say it has the best launcher? thats personal preference, so isn’t really a valid argument. IMO, sense>blur.

          • Anonymous

            I think it’s safe to say that the general Android community prefers Sense over Blur, even if it considers it to be the lesser of two evils.

            But your first point is extremely valid. If there isn’t something better than the Bionic when it launches, there will be shortly. That holds true for any and all devices. It’s silly to hate on 6-month-old devices in favor of a device that hasn’t launched as, as in six months people will do the same to you.

          • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

            i mean, didn’t they say this phone was supposed to be out earlier in the year, back when they were announcing that they were going to have 3 Verzion LTE phones, like back in december? this phone is already doing worse than the Thunderbolt lol

          • TomHolmes

            You might want to back it up a step Alex. Thunderbolt is 4G and a fine phone in my opinion. I ran one for months and they have great developer support. But Bionic will have dual core along with the LTE, a first for Verizon, more RAM, better screen resolution, 16:9 aspect ratio, much bigger battery (and won’t look ridiculous with an extended battery on it), HDMI mirroring, 1080p video recording, etc. Moto builds a tougher device than HTC as well, but I can’t fault HTC’s build quality (although I can Samsung’s). I consider the D3 to be a superior phone to the Thunderbolt based on relative performance, although it’s a near thing. The dual core does seem to have a bigger influence on my experience than the 4G did. With both, once the Bionice is available, I expect to finally see a device that removes the two biggest bottlenecks, and takes out the third as well with a gig of RAM. This is going to be a strong, strong phone for a while to come. The Vigor sounds very exciting as I’m a big screen kind of guy, but I’ll believe that when we see more about it.

          • Anonymous

            There comes a point where processor speed becomes a non-issue. Same with network speeds. WiMax (at its best) and LTE are fast. How big of a need is there for WiMax Advanced and LTE advanced? Clear boasts that they will support up to 120 Mbps down. Even if they do, you’ll never find a speed test server that can support that sort of a download speed, let alone a server/peer for actually downloading anything. At that point, it’s just a pissing contest between carriers. “Oh, I have a theoretical max of 120 Mbps! Herp derp!”

            How fast do we need mobile processors to be? If I can run every single game in the Android market today on my Thunderbolt with a single-core (granted, overclocked to 1.4 Ghz currently, but I suspect performance would not take a hit if I reverted to stock) without any lag, how much faster do processors really need to get? I understand that there is always the drive to one-up the competition, and I think that’s a good thing. I’m not trying to put down innovation and improvement. I’m just speaking about practicality here. What sort of things are you going to be doing with the Bionic, or whatever multi-core phone you may have, that you couldn’t do just as well (within reason) with a single-core device? Seriously, we’re talking about handheld phones here, and last I checked, SETI didn’t have an app for processing radio data from space on our smartphones. There comes a time where we you can do everything you want and need with what you have, and at that point, upgrades past that, while nice and flashy and brag-able, are pointless.

          • TomHolmes

            Ten years ago, we’d have had the same argument regarding PC processors, RAM and internet speeds. We could not then imagine the uses that we’d be putting these things to just around the calendar’s corner. Now my internet connection is 15Mbps rather than 14,400bps and I’m pummeling it like a rented mule with streaming video to multiple devices. My laptop’s 3GB of RAM and dual core processor seems inadequate when I start working on a Photoshop piece that’s bigger than 3k x 3k. Today’s marginal improvement is tomorrow’s baseline, so now, as always, the more you pack into your new phone, the longer it will remain viable.

          • Guest

            I LOVE THE HDMI MIRROR THE PENTILE ON MY DROIDX2 ITS GREAT AT FIRST I FOUND IT VERY SHINING BUT 3 DAYS LATER  I LOVE IT AND IT IS THE BEST ON THE SUNLIGHT BIONIC WILL BE THE TALK OF THE YEAR AND WE CAN SAME THE THING ABOUT THE DROID X LAST YEAR AND DROD 1 THE YEAR BEFORE SO WHO IS WINNING WHEN IT COMES TO SELLING :) QUALITY PEOPLE QUALITY

          • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

            it was a joke. chill

          • Guest

            DO NOT COMPARE THE NEW BLUR WITH THE OLD BLUR THANK YOU

          • Anonymous

            Sense is overrated, just like HTC.  It’s a bloated hog and kind of outdated, I’m not much of a fan personally.  The SGS2 has the same specs as the Bionic so no, it’s not better, in fact it won’t be as good if it doesn’t get LTE.  The Vigor is just speculation, wake me up when there is any credible info on it.  Besides, it’ll likely be an updated Sensation which is a good phone but hardly show stopping.

          • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

            the vigor has the best scores of any chipset out, and has a release date for October, according to the Verizon MAP. And how is Sense overrated? blur is trying to steal some things from it, like leap. I’m not saying that the Bionic is a bad phone, i’m just saying some people are putting it on a pedestal. and as far as performance goes, the SGSII is better. By the way, whats so showstopping about the Bionic?

          • Anonymous

            Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

            I think the fanboys are out in force tonight, and everyone is missing a few crucial points:

            1. The Bionic is not out yet. Specs be damned, it’s all about performance and end-user experience. I don’t care how many cores the processor has, or how much ram it has. If MotoBlur lags like it always has, people are going to rage. Nobody knows how the phone performs yet, so singing praises for the Bionic at this point is kind of ridiculous.

            2. Even after the phone comes out, singing praises for it is still kind of ridiculous. There will be the next best thing coming along shortly, whether that ends up being the “Vigor” or the GSII or some other monstrosity. The point is that nothing remains king for long, and as such, you should be careful who or what you criticize today. Because their contract will be up for renewal at one point, and they’ll have the next laugh in six months or a year. And then you’ll have the next one, and then they’ll have the next one. And in the end, you’re all just wasting your time putting the other person down over a phone. Good job…?

          • Anonymous

            Want to see how the UI will perform, go play with a Droid 3, it’s the same software.  Plus the Bionic will have double the ram.

          • Guest

            THEY ARE STUPID ALL OF THEM HATING ON THE BEST CARRIERS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT UNLOCK THEIR BOOTLOADER CRY BABIES

          • Anonymous

            bionic will have a different version of blur, not even seen on the droid 3 or x2

          • Guest

            IT SEEMS THAT IT IS OUT BECAUSE FANTROLL LIKE YOURSELF ITS COMPARING THE BIONIC WITH DROIDX2 OR DROID 3 AND ON THAT CASE GO PLAY WITH DROID 3 AND SEE HOW GREAT THE NEW BLUR IS THE SPEED OF THAT SMALL 3G PHONE ITS AMAZING AND THE BUILD QUALITY I DO NOT HAVE TO SAY ANYMORE :) HDMI MIRROR ONE OF THE BEST FEATURE

          • Anonymous

            Best scores?  What are you talking about?  Go look up the performance of the Sensation or Evo 3D at 1.2 GHz, they don’t even top the Droid 3 at 1 GHz.  The Vigor will have the same processor just on a die shrink which will improve battery life and will be clocked higher.  Don’t expect any groundbreaking performance.

            How is sense overrated?  Hmm, Maybe it’s all the praise it gets while all the idiots constantly trash Blur?  Btw, you all treat Moto’s new software like it’s the old blur, it’s not.

            The processors in the GS2 and Bionic have similar performance, the GS2 scores higher in benchmarks because it’s running a lower resolution and is clocked higher.

          • TomHolmes

            I ran Sense 3 (ish) on my Thunderbolt running dasBAMF and found it to be gorgeous but a bit of a pig. Using D3 now and it seems okay with a few cool things here and there.

          • Agent Smith

            You’re right but I just hope we can get some overclocking on the Bionic. I belive the chip on the Bionic is supposed to be clocked at 1.5ghz but has been underclocked to save battery.
            As for the GSII, it has a much faster GPU which is one of the main reasons why it’s so smooth and scores so much higher in Benchmarks. I just look at the FPS for performance and ignore the final score.  The GPU on the GSII is supposed to be 5 times faster than last years GS. The Bionic has the same GPU as the Original GS but clocked at 300mhz instead of 200mhz.
            You’ve gotta give it to Samsung, they seem to be far ahead of the competition when it comes to hardware. The GSII was released about 4 months ago and no other phone has been able to compete with it, let’s just hope the Bionic wont’ be that far behind when it’s released.

            BTW does anyone know how much ram will be available for use. I hope it’s not just 512mb like it originally was on the Atrix.

          • Anonymous

            The Exynos’ Mali-400 GPU is not much faster, if at all.  The OMAP4 is significantly faster than the Hummingbird because of a variety of improvements, from a single A8 processor to dual A9s, a much faster clocked SGX540, DDR2 ram and thus greatly increased memory bandwidth, etc.  The OMAP 4440 also runs the SGX540 at 384 MHz.  Even though they both share the same GPU you cannot compare their performance.

            The reason the GS2 is so fast is because Samsung took it upon themselves to GPU accelerate the UI instead of waiting for Google to do it.  Motorola has done the same in their newest homescreen launcher running on the D3 as well only they didn’t take it as far as Samsung by adding it into the browser as well for instance.

          • Guest

            DROID 3 ITS SO FAST WITH OMAP I CAN JUST IMAGINE THE BIONIC DD2 RAM 1G OF MEMORY DUAL CORE LTE LTE LTE THIS PHONE IS A BEAST PERIOD BIONIC HERE I COME FOLLOWED BY DINARA OR THE NEXT BEAST FROM MOTO

          • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

            http://www.droid-life.com/2011/07/27/htc-vigor-benchmark-spotted-headed-to-verizon-with-1-5ghz-dual-core-processor-and-720p-hd-display/

            those are some specs. and you still haven’t given any credible evidence as to why Sense is overrated. it’s a preference actually. and the processore thats supposed to be in the vigor, is not the same one as the sensation. its a brand new processor.

          • Anonymous

            All launchers save for the stock launcher are pretty bloated. Honestly, I guess I don’t understand the outdated comment. And are you forgetting the legacy of MotoBlur? Let’s not forget that it’s been plaguing the Bionic from day 1. :

          • Anonymous

            No, it’s common knowledge that Sense uses more ram than any other manufacturer’s skin.  I said outdated because Sense is looking kind of outdated to me, it hasn’t changed much at all since it launched aside from some 3D effects and a new lockscreen.  It’s not bad but I can do without it.  I personally think Samsung’s new touchwiz 4.0 on the GS2 is much better and Moto’s new Blur or MAP or whatever you want to call it is highly improved over the old pos blur.  Not sure what you mean by plaguing the Bionic.

          • Billyrouth2000

            Blur sucks sense is a better launcher and I have a dx2

          • Guest

            YOU SUCK PERIOD

          • TARSIS BRITO

            I KNOW IT WILL MOTO HAS ITS OTHER DEVICES WAITING AND WITH BETTER TECHNOLOGY THAN ANYONE ELSE LIKE THEY DID WITH ATRIX

          • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

            thanks sanjay

          • Anonymous

            Your post is so disgustingly fanboy that it hurts to read it.

            My hate for Motorola stems solely from the bootloader situation and MotoBlur. The OG Droid was pure perfection, but everything Motorola has done since has been wrong.

            And I understand that you’re just trolling for attention and reactions out of people. I don’t think I know anyone who can say with a straight face that even the updated Blur has the best home launcher. I’m not saying Sense is perfect, and TouchWiz is too iPhone-y for me, but come on dude. Are you joking?

            And I also love how you tote great build quality. Have you held the Bionic for yourself? No? Oh. So, how do you know this?

            I’m not an HTC fan. I’m not a Motorola fan. I’m not a Samsung fan. I’m an Android fan.
            You’re not an HTC fan. You’re not a Motorola fan. You’re not a Samsung fan. You’re an idiot. You’re Android’s version of the iPhone fanboy, and Lord knows we could do with less of you.

          • Nkmett15

            I agree with you sc4fpse!

          • TARSIS BRITO

            you hate on moto for no reason people always envy the best and you are one of them you are a MORON NOBODY CAN TOP MOTOROLLA THEY INVENTED THE CELLS AND THEY REVOLUTIONIZED ANDROID. HTC COULD NOT CUT IT WITH THE G1 MOTO IT IS ALWAYS ONE STEP AHEAD AND WE ALL KNOW IT. I WANT TO SEE THESE FOOLS WHEN MOTO UNLOCK THEIR DEVICES THEY WILL BE KISSING ASS STUPID IGNORANTS

          • Guest

            could not agree more these morons make themselves believe that this device will have the best chip, best cam 13 megapixel etc they hyped themselves over this phone. I will take anytime MOTO BUILD QUALITY DROID 1 DROID X DROID PRO DROID 2 THOSE ARE PHONES NOT TOYS HTC SAMSUNG I AM TALKING TO YOU.  PENTILE SCREEM IS GOOD PEOPLE ALWAYS LOOK FOR LITTLE THING TO PUT MOTO DOWN LOL IT IS ALL GOOD. I know this beast will break records maybe the og droid or the x, which is by far the most popular droid including og droid

      • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

        you act like the single core is slow. i have no issues with my thunderbolt and it’s fine the way it is. you can’t say that you can use 4G and to simultaneous voice and data. theres not enough coverage. plus, wasn’t this phone supposed to be out a while ago?…..with all that being said. i don’t even use simultaneous voice and data that often. it’s not a big deal. but i do think that there will be better phones (SGSII and the Vigor)

        • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

          I had thunderbolt laggy, random rebooted, light leakage from the side,terrible battery life that phone was and still is horrible…..the sensation is an awesome phone from HTC but the thunderbolt should of neverbeen released…I know when you see a new beast of a phone that you start having buyers remorse but give credit where its due

          • Anonymous

            And how do you know that the Bionic won’t be laggy, plagued with restarts and light leakage, and terrible battery life? You don’t. The phone isn’t out, yet you’re singing its praises as if it is the second coming of Christ or something. That’s unhealthy.

          • Anonymous

            He’s doing no such thing, it’s people like Alex and Bullet Tooth Tony who are singing its doom and already trashing it. The fact is this will be a better phone than the Thunderbolt for a variety of reasons assuming it doesn’t have a ton of bugs but so did the TB.

          • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

            lol it’s people like Brian and you that are getting butt hurt over a stupid device. it’s not even out. can we just wait for the reviews to actually make statements like the ones that are being made?

          • Anonymous

            I don’t know, you guys seem incapable of carrying on a legitimate conversation in favor of trolling.

          • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

            actually, nothing you guys are saying is legitimate since theres no phone to actually hold in your hand

          • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

            actually, nothing you guys are saying is legitimate since theres no phone to actually hold in your hand

          • Anonymous

            There are pictures and it exists, can’t be said for the Vigor or even the Verizon GS2.

          • Anonymous

            Mind you, I’m not saying anything about the Vigor or the GSII. Those phones aren’t out yet, just like the Bionic. At this point it’s stupid to argue that one unreleased device is better than another or better than an existing phone. You’ve never used the device, you’ve never seen it in person. You only know what you’ve read on the internet, which means nothing. Pictures are completely useless in this debate, unless you maybe want to argue that the Bionic is shinier than Device X or better friends with Mr. Blurrycam than Device Y.

            The only people speaking with any logic here are the ones respectfully pointing out that the Bionic is not out yet. There are no reviews of it, and nobody here has used one. Any argument for or against it at this point is silly. People are pointing this out, and the fanboys here are declaring them trolls because they’re speaking with logic instead of undying love for a device that hasn’t made it to market yet.

          • Anonymous

            “but i do think that there will be better phones (SGSII and the Vigor)”

            -Alex

            Do you selectively read?

          • Guest

            the only thing the galaxy has going on its the nfc feature but bionic has webdock, hdmi mirror first let which it will run smoothly. Alex you a moron you do not know about technology stay with your thunderbolt toy

          • Guest

            my friend has the sensation and his 1.3 megapixel ffc looks worse than the photon remember its not the pixel its the sensor and the lenz and that’s where the bionic will beat them all you got to love the photon 4g and bionic will be better than that one :)

          • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

            the Verizon GS2, will be the same as the GS2.

          • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

            Your not that smart are you

          • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

            you clearly aren’t

          • Guest

            these fags still crying over moto because moto its not uncloking their device idiots regular people dont root and the phone its fast itself with a lot of ram lte and moto Hardware quality

          • Guest

            we know because it is made by motorolla and they are the best like it or not and you all know it we come up with best technology and features you got to love the webdock and hdmi mirror owwwwwww

          • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

            you do know that the random reboots is a problem with the update, and is now fixed. i got 1 day and 15 hours the other day on my battery, and every phone lags, but my thunderbolt is very minimal. lol i hate blur, so this phone will not get a second look, thanks. ill stick with the vigor. dual-core 1.5 Ghz instead of your puny 1 Ghz :-) and i love unlocked bootloaders. can’t beat that

          • Anonymous

            Correct on a few points. The reboot issue has since been remedied, and battery life for me is pretty decent too, even on LTE all day. YMMV on every device.

            However, to remain fair and impartial, I have to point out that the logic in your other comments is about as flawed as his is. The Vigor is vaporware at this point, as we have nothing to go off of save for a leaked roadmap and some benchmark tests. We don’t know anything more about the phone, so to declare it a winner over the Bionic or any other device at this point is ridiculous. And the bootloader issue is a big one for me as well, but we still don’t know what sort of role carriers play in the unlocking of bootloaders. Verizon could very well stand in the way of an unlocked bootloader on whatever device the Vigor materializes into. So arguing that the Vigor is champion over the Bionic because of the bootloader is again ridiculous.

          • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

            as far as planned chipset goes, the Vigor does win, but if you want to talk about phones that are already out, SGS2 wins

          • Guest

            how do you know the vigor will have those specs lol if i remember moto invented the dual core technology ATRIX HELLO then all the carriers copied

          • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

            wrong. LG Optimus 2X was the first dual core phone.

        • Guest

          yea it is slow when it comes to browising but if u have good memory like 1g you should be fine bionic the best phone of the year it just have so many features webdock hdmi mirror first let pentile its good people are making it so bad

          • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

            you can’t say the bionic is the best phone of the year, when it’s not out yet. the chipset in the SGSII already blows the bionic out of the water.

    • http://www.facebook.com/michaeljmcgrath Michael McGrath

      I have a tbolt… I’m torn.

      The question isn’t whether this is better, it is…it’s whether it’s better ENOUGH to be worthy an upgrade.

      • Anonymous

        Good point. I think people make it seem like they have tons of money to throw around on the internet. Nobody is going to replace their 6-month-old device and upgrade to the next best thing just because it has a second core in its processor or because it has a minor increase in some other specification. That’s just silly.

        • Stelv81

          You are not going to see much real word speed between the Bionic and TB. It will be only a couple seconds of difference. Sure the Bionic has a dual core but Blur is not speed optimized like Sense. Also the Snapdragon in TB is very fast for a single processor. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=662761387 Nader Elkurd

        You have a Thunderbolt and already want to upgrade?! Damn…

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ashton-Wallton/100002743130252 Ashton Wallton

      I just paiid $ 22.89 for an iP a d 2-64GB and my girlfriend loves her Panasonic Lumix GF 1 Camera that we got for $ 38.76 there arriving tomorrow by UPS. I will never pay such expensive retail prices in stores again. Especially when I also sold a 40 inch LED TV to my boss for $ 657 which only cost me $ 62.81 to buy. Here is the website we use to get it all from, http://bit.ly/r8qxL7

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10215724 Raj Bhatt

      Except for that little part where the Tbolt has half the processing power.

    • http://www.facebook.com/TJHRULZ tjhrulz

      I can do navigation and voice on my D2 simultaneously, but that is because GPS still works on call and the map is prefetched now.

    • Anonymous

      Navigation doesn’t fail when I’m on the phone on the original Droid…navigation doesn’t need a constant data connection, just uses the data connection to assist in finding your location faster.

      But yes…what is it that HTC knows that Moto doesn’t?

    • JJ

        I didn’t think the T Bolt did 3g data and voice together. I thought it had to have LTE to work voice and data together. If you look in the data bullet IT DOES say CDMA(1X Voice) + LTE.

  • Anonymous

    If this is a dumb question, my apologies. Will this do voice and data over 4G?

    • Anonymous

      yes but it wont over 3g.

  • http://twitter.com/ericalj erica

    Ugh. If that’s true about the Voice/Data simultaneously over 3G, I’m passing on this device. Kind of a step back as far as the 4G stuff goes.

    • Anonymous

      4G can do simultaneous, just not 3G.

  • Anonymous

    That inductive cover flattening out the back is a pretty neat idea, I like it.

  • Anonymous

    If this turns out to be a global phone, I *might* just consider selling the Thunderbolt. LTE + Global would be epic win, but then again, all indications so far suggest that this isn’t the case.

  • Anonymous

    Now I’ll be able to charge my phone in the hotel microwave whenever I forget my wall charger! W007!

  • dairyman

    The top looks thicker than the bottom to me. That “back cover” shot doesn’t match with the top and bottom photos. Curious.

    • Anonymous

      The back cover pictured has the inductive charging coil in it, so it will be thicker than the regular cover.

  • ChuckDz3

    I have to admit this is one hell of a phone. Maybe this is not for everyone (HTC & Samsung lovers) but this still stands alone as the top 4g phone on the market today. Sure there will be something better in coming months, but guess what, a couple months after that another amazing phone will come out that tops the Vigor or SGII.  I have been patiently waiting for this phone and I can honestly say I will be proud to let my OG to rest for this phone. 

    • Rizzidy

      How can something stand alone as the top phone on the market without actually being on the market?  Go be a fanboy somewhere else.

      • ChuckDz3

        My apologies, did not mean to overstate my predictions. You are right it is not on the market yet. But when it hits in less than a month, you tell me what phone would be arguably better on a top 4G market.  And while you are at it tell me a better site to be a ‘fanboy’ on other than a site that focuses solely on Droid branded phones. Your ignorance is ridiculous. 

        • Rizzidy

          My ignorance?  lol

          When it actually hits the market, we can have this discussion.  At this point it is all conjecture.  Will the GSII be out then?  Who knows.  Will the Bionic *actually* be out on Sept. 8?  Again, we don’t ACTUALLY know.  Will there be some other phone out that we don’t know about right now?  No idea.

          Declaring a winner with so many unknown variables is what is ridiculous, fanboy.

          • ChuckDz3

            Your ignorance is relevant to comment that you mentioned I was a ‘fanboy’ on a blog that was established for Droid branded phones.  I made a comment in favor of a droid phone and you told me to be a ‘fanboy’ somewhere else… 

          • Guest

            RIZZIDY IS VERY STUPID LOL

          • YouGotPwned

            You got pwned mate!!!

          • Guest

            OK STUPID SO TELL ME RIGHT NOW WHAT PHONE ITS THE BEST PHOTON BEATS HTC 3D ATRIX BEATS ALL THE HTC ON AT&t AND DROID 3 BEATS CHARGE AND THURDERBOLT SO WHO IS STILL ON TOP I AM TALKING ABOUT THE PHONES RIGHT NOW. NOBODY CAN COMPETE WITH MOTO

        • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

          Chuck agree with you no other phone will be close to the bionic once it drops that is a fact

          • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

            wrong

      • Guest

        IT WILL BE ON THE MARKET WE KNOW HOW IT LOOKS THE SPECS YOU ARE STUPID FANGAY

        • Rizzidy

          If “it will be on the market” is our standard, then why aren’t we including the iPhone 5, the Galaxy S3, anything with a Kal-El processor, etc.?  

          I’ll tell you why: because then the entire conversation becomes pointless as it is all just conjecture.

    • TARSIS BRITO

      they always going to be something better and moto already has something better waiting what are these fools complaining. BIONIC RULE SO DOES ATRIX AND THE PHOTON AND LASTLY SINGLE CORE DROID 3 DOING THE JOB TOO. MOTO STILL ON TOP OF EVERYBODY RIGHT NOW

  • http://twitter.com/trophynuts trophynuts

    i soooooo need this to be Global. We would finally have a great android global 4G device. .yes i will actually use it as i travel internationally a good bit during the year. 

  • Timmah

    Guys, there is NO GLOBAL SUPPORT. The FCC mentioned nothing about global support, or UMTS support. Just Wifi, Bluetooth, CDMA, and LTE.  I believe the FCC over a manual which out of all things shows a DROID X. :/

    • Anonymous

      Did the Droid X have global?  And the model number shown in the manual is the Bionic’s.

      • Timmah

        I didnt say anything about the DROID X having global support or anything about the model number. Take a look:http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/bionic-user-manual2.jpg That is a DROID X. Yes the model number is the BIONIC, but that is not the final manual, actually its from March.

        • Anonymous

          I read your response wrong.  Whoops.

        • Anonymous

          Interestingly enough, you’re right: That *is* a Droid X. But the Droid X definitely did not have a SIM slot of any kind. So, yeah, Moto just got really lazy with that booklet.

          • Timmah

            Exactly ;)

          • Anonymous

            We’ve updated the post. Definitely not global. :)

          • Timmah

            Thanks Kellex!

    • http://twitter.com/NemaCystX NemaCystX

      The FCC doesn’t test for global capability since its not in there jurisdiction. The only areas they test for is Canada and the Mexico border thanks to that new spectrum agreement that is.  Canada they’ve always tested for since its so close to our borders.  Global capability is never tested from the FCC, atleast not that I know of.

      The manual could be wrong yes, but we don’t know for sure until the final Manual arrives on the Developer Verizon site like the past leaks.

      Only time will tell

      • http://AndroidTaskForce.com Chris Gustafson

        Yeah that’s a very good point. 

        I just looked over the DROID3 and PHOTON 4G FCC reports and they didn’t mention GSM/UMTS at all either. 

  • timmy13

    going to get it even if the galaxy s2 is coming out. hell i’ll get both and the loser shall be sold to the highest bidder

  • timmy13

    first 

  • Craigg

    If this truly is a Global phone I’m in at full retail as soon as it’s available.

    • Anonymous

      It’s not.

    • Craigg

      After reading the update I think Motorola can keep their Bionic. The Charge already does everything the Bionic will do yet it has a better screen and it’s rooted :)

      • Guest

        THE CHARGE SUX

  • http://twitter.com/Chasemanhattan3 Chase Chick

    First!

    • http://www.facebook.com/BenBGriffiths Ben Griffiths

      Get a life – in addition to that Droid-Life you are addicted to!

      • Billyrouth2000

        So your the loser that had to talk down to a first comment! Get a life