Comments on: Facebook Messenger for Android Updated, No Longer Need an Account to Chat

By: Chris Pinola

Chris Pinola — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 19:36:00 +0000

its ridiculous, but i sort of get it. G+ Messenger supports sent/delivered/read receipts, group chats, and embedding photos in messages. not all of this is available with the XMPP protocol, so its either something homegrown by Google, or a heavily tweaked version of XMPP. i think they want to keep Talk XMPP-compliant for now. the only reason i could see for this would be the interoperability they currently have with the AIM network, but, like, come on already. based on how insanely buggy G+ Messenger was at launch, i would guess its a brand new protocol and Messenger was just google’s way of having people test out their new protocol. i guess when they think its ready, it will eventually become the backbone of the Talk platform, or, so i hope.

By: Geoff Johnson

Geoff Johnson — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 19:29:00 +0000

Voice, Talk, G+, Messenger, so many similar apps!

By: capecodcarl

capecodcarl — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 19:23:00 +0000

So the Android G+ Messenger and the Google Talk are separate? I figured they were just two different frontends to the same xmpp service. Google seems to be in perpetual beta mode, even to this day.

By: jsf6262

jsf6262 — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 18:20:00 +0000

International countries?

By: Chris Schmucker

Chris Schmucker — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:49:00 +0000

True, never thought of it that way. I just want an equivalent of iMessage without having to use X amount of third party apps.

By: Dr_Buttballs

Dr_Buttballs — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:47:00 +0000

Ah ok, thanks for the clarification.

By: TweetrGuy

TweetrGuy — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:44:00 +0000

That’s not what it’s doing. It’s just another HandCent / GoSMS type app. It still sends using traditional MMS/SMS methods.

By: Chris Pinola

Chris Pinola — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:44:00 +0000

The chats that you can see from the web version of G+ are in fact gTalk sessions. And they think the average user isn’t confused by this how?

By: Dr_Buttballs

Dr_Buttballs — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:37:00 +0000

I thought you could if you were signed into your G+ account? I’ve never used the G+ Messenger app on my phone. How do they differ?

By: ddh819

ddh819 — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:33:00 +0000

enable mms with google voice then i will be all set

By: Chris Pinola

Chris Pinola — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:32:00 +0000

G+ Messenger is significantly better, but there’s no way to use it from a desktop web browser -_-

By: Chris Pinola

Chris Pinola — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:31:00 +0000

even if that’s the case (which i seriously hope it is) widespread adoption wouldn’t happen until much, MUCH later. obviously I could understand the SMS app integration being exclusive to KLP, but it would need to be accessible to everybody. social applications that are locked to one specific brand or OS release (etc) are inherently NOT very social, and soooooo many people fail to recognize that in this industry.

By: Nexus_FrEak

Nexus_FrEak — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:29:00 +0000

Can’t get any to switch… To most (iOS) they don’t need 2 or 3 options. they have one that works all the way around!

By: Chris Schmucker

Chris Schmucker — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:26:00 +0000

I believe i read somewhere that Matias Duerte said that was going to be one of the main features of Key Lime Pie. I could be wrong though.

By: Chris Pinola

Chris Pinola — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:26:00 +0000

before I left FB in May, I didn’t feel as though it was a viable alternative to something like Kik. it was tough to tell if someone was on their phone or had just left FB open in a tab. plus I know a bunch of people who stay signed out of FB chat because they hate getting bombarded by chats when they don’t have the time to dedicate to them/are too lazy to set up lists so that not every acquaintance they’ve ever made can chat with them. the whole thing is just fundamentally broken.