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Microsoft’s Steve Ballmer Claims the Android Ecosystem is Wild and Uncontrolled

In a recent interview, Microsoft’s CEO Steve Ballmer, had some interesting things to say about the Windows Phone competition. When asked about strategy that Microsoft plans to deploy in making sure Windows Phone is successful, Ballmer went straight for the heart of both Android and iOS. Looking to find a niche between Google and Apple, Ballmer claims that the Android ecosystem is, “wild,” “uncontrolled,” and “not in the consumer’s best interest.” As for iOS, well it’s frankly just overpriced as far as Ballmer is concerned and overly controlled. His goal is to have Windows fit handsomely in the middle – being both organized and reasonably priced. 

Below, we have the live audio from the Interview and the two points are marked where Ballmer discusses the ecosystem. As far as we are concerned, we want the ecosystem to be wild – full of developers that aren’t afraid to get their feet wet, controlled by a company that continues to innovate the way we use our mobile devices.

What do you think about the ecosystem that surrounds Android? Is it simply too wild for you to handle?

Via: TechCrunch

  • http://twitter.com/dns2k Otto Dieffenbach

    Those city boys dont never done appreciate ho’ the west wuz won. :P

  • Alan Ng

    android likes to be wild .. we dont need thinks like mocosoft controls and apple controls.!

  • http://www.facebook.com/BenBGriffiths Ben Griffiths

    What he means is that an open ecosystem isn’t good for his profits.

  • Alan Ng

    fuc* you mocosoft, fuc* you apple! .. we dont need our controls..!

  • Superdroid

    Wild and uncontrolled and eating your lunch!

  • http://www.facebook.com/jaxon.wright Jaxon Wright

    to an extent, I can see what he’s saying.

  • Finire

    Wait… M$ is talking about something being over priced?

  • TD

    Sounds like the last 15 years of Windows

  • JohnPA2006

    MONKEYBOY ATTACK !!!! ROooarrrzzzz !!!!

  • DennisHeffernan

    Wild is good. As a great man once said, “I aim to misbehave”.

  • Kindroid

    Sounds like WP8 isn’t selling so well in its opening week.

  • http://twitter.com/al3ksz Alex Villalpando

    Is he dancing thriller by any chance?

  • http://twitter.com/al3ksz Alex Villalpando

    Is he dancing thriller by any chance?

  • Batman

    Um, so why then, are most of the apps in the WIndows App Store $4.99? Granted this is for a Surface, but Angry Birds is five-fucking-dollars.

    • Laszlo Boocz

      Where is it $5? It’s $0.99

      • Batman

        Angry Birds Space is $5 in the Microsoft App Store on my Surface tablet.

  • Laszlo Boocz

    Android is the best! Its flawless! No one else can touch it! Everything else is broken but Android and everything about Android! Android is the best!

    • JoshGroff

      Linux, the answer to all things.

      • ddevito

        +1,000,000,000 Indeed.

  • user311

    Wild and Uncontrolled > Caged and Dominated. Maybe we should revisit this when windows phone has more than 3% market share…

  • n.

    It does make some sense if you look at it from a purely business standpoint. I can envision numerous companies that would feel more comfortable providing windows phones to employees over android devices. The ability to get performance and consistency.
    That said, I’d never give up android on my personal device – but can understand the appeal to a certain market.

  • FortitudineVincimus

    I actually tend to agree….

    - +-300 different Android phones, new ones coming daily
    -some of these hundreds of phones have several hardware variations to satisfy providers
    -Different phone providers making different versions or modified versions of the OS they want for their version of the phone
    -all providers on totally different upgrade and update schedules
    -some providers changing minds about what they will update
    -several versions of the Android OS floating around out there – even fragmented down into .1 of a release number
    -many phones not even close to using a current version OS
    -some phones can and some cannot upgrade to another OS
    -the most current OS is always having 1 foot out the door when the next OS starts getting previewed

    it is a cluster f**** of a mess as I see it.

    • JoshGroff

      I’ll take a cluster bomb of innovation over anything MS has to offer.

      • FortitudineVincimus

        hmm…. ok. So ultimately, you just hate on MS so much it does not really matter what the topic is as you’ll just hate on them.

        At least I am honest enough to be critical of even things I like rather than this pathetic ra ra pile on thread… Android and how it has been executed is not all that great and kick arse, but threads like this are laughable as everyone just piles on blindly without really considering the facts and thinking about it.

        • JoshGroff

          Not really, I find windows 7 pretty useful (mainly since I don’t have to go through step by step guides just to get windows native games working.), but that doesn’t mean I don’t prefer/use Ubuntu as my daily driver.

    • DroidzFX

      and your point is?

      This is how open source works. Look how many linux distros there are. Its called having a choice.

      My advice: choose wisely

      • ddevito

        +1 Exactly. Linux Mint is considered by many to be the best distro around – and it’s ALWAYS one version behind the distro it’s derived from (ubuntu).

      • FortitudineVincimus

        you truly don’t get my point? wow. I think it is plain as day.

        • ddevito

          does every PC running Windows have Win7 on it? Of course not, lots still have XP – your point is moot

          • FortitudineVincimus

            I gave a slue of examples of the fragmentation hell that plagues the Android ecosystem. You gloss over them and give me this example? An example that is easy to pick apart.

            Funny, that is this Android world, you say something lamely vague like “pick wisely” as that is nearly impossible to do because no matter what research you do on what phone you want, you can never be sure if it is upgradable, if that will change, what version (hardware and OS) you will actually get on your provider versus what you fell in love with when announced, what it can be upgraded to and what it cannot handle, when and on what timeline…

            The Android ecosystem is a cluttered mess.

          • mgamerz

            Nexus
            Your post is now irrelevant
            /discussion

          • TheOiulkj

            Buy an iphone then, now you don’t have to use your brain. Android is for intelligent people who know how to buy and use a piece of hardware, not for sheep that buy the first phone a Verizon rep puts in front of them.

            Next you’re going to tell me that the automobile industry is fragmented and we should all be driving smartcars with the same engine, same amount of doors, same tires and fill up at the same gas station. That way it’s not a “cluttered mess”.

            Even nature doesn’t work that way, diversity exists to cater to many different needs. There are cons and pros to every phone out there, including apple and windows phones. Android happens to have more phones, which means there are more cons and pros to compare. That’s never a bad thing.

    • J

      Yea um.. this is how almost EVERY other industry works. It’s called differentiation, diversity, CHOICE.

      • FortitudineVincimus

        wrong.. it is called fragmentation

        Ford does not make 2-3 versions of the F150, there is 1. There are not 10 companies making the Ford, there is 1. And so on and so on.

        Horrible analogy. Horrible.

        • Droidzilla

          Android is using the same tech with different OEMs. A better analogy would be OBDII spec with basic features like 4 wheels and standard pedal arrangements. So you’ll see “horrid fragmentation” when looking at Audi, Ford, Chevy, Subaru, Toyota, Nissan, Kia, etc. Just the way it should be.

        • DroidzFX

          Actually there are a few specialty versions of the F150. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F150.

        • FurryVarmint

          Um…

          You want Ecoboost? V6 engine. How about a V8? We have 2. Ecoboost too much but still want the V6? We have one of those, too.

          STX equipment group? How about XL? XLT You want that regular or crew cab? Long bed? Short bed? 4×4 or 2WD?

          The F150 is available in more than 2-3 versions, and while I’ll agree with you that there aren’t 10 companies making it, Ford has had a long tradition of selling vehicles to Mazda, and let’s not forget the now-gone Mercury and the still-viable Lincoln. The B-Series pickup by Mazda was a reskinned Ranger, the Sable a reskinned Taurus, and I’m not even going to go into Lincoln except to point out the Mark LT pickup truck; you guessed it, a reskinned F150 discontinued in 2009.

          If you’re going to use an example, try picking one that doesn’t make the case against you stronger, alright?

  • JoshGroff

    Born to be wild.

  • http://www.facebook.com/aaron.lasley Aaron Lasley

    And microshaft is not overpriced and wild?

  • Mike

    his hands in that picture are wild and uncontrolled……

  • Ken Bosse

    young and wild and freeeee

  • ddevito
    • Sirx

      LOL! That was a fantastic little read there. I wish you could send each of those CEOs and spokespeople who commented a link back to this article so they could eat their words.

      It would be enough to feed them for months.

    • OreoMan

      It’s funny to see what people were saying about Android in 2007 compared to what they’re saying today. Kudos to you for finding/remembering this article!

  • Brian Meredith

    O yeah, android is so uncontrolled! Having the ability to customize my phone to my exact preference makes me feel like I’m in a bubble.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kasey-Hendrickson/1025065396 Kasey Hendrickson

      I agree, even on Verizon with a locked bootloader and all that, I still can get my Android phone to do pretty much anything I want it to do.

  • ddevito

    Android has what Win8 and WinPhone 8 doesn’t have:

    DEVELOPERS
    DEVELOPERS
    DEVELOPERS

    How’s that taste fat boy?

  • Abhijeet Mishra

    I guess Android is too full of features and freedom for some to handle, who’d be better off with iOS or WP8, which is what MS and Apple focus on (and in case of Apple, they also carry a lot of credit cards in their pockets), but apparently WP fails to grab attention.

    But no, we like Android just like the uncontrolled and wild bitch it is. Those who don’t are free to buy into the iOS or WP8 ecosystems (which are not bad, just not for us with their limits). :D

  • Gimp_Ninja

    Android or Windows, I think we can all agree that Steve Ballmer’s face is the biggest comedy goldmine in all of tech news.

  • hfoster52

    +1 for getting a picture of Ballmer mimicking a wild bear.

  • mustbepbs

    I claim Steve Ballmer looks like a giant, overweight baby.

  • T4rd

    Seems like his kind of ecosystem. Not as wild and uncontrolled as Steve himself!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE

  • normmcgarry

    Let me know when Windows Phone has notifications.

    • La2da

      Notifi-ception.

  • ddevito

    The one good things to come out of Redmond over the last 30 years (Windows 8) – and what does the company do? They drive out the guy who created it. Brilliant.

    • http://profiles.google.com/adamtruelove Adam Truelove

      Windows 7 is really good.

      • ddevito

        Windows 7 is Windows 2003 Server with extra drivers. It was an emergency landing with the whole Longhorn debacle – which they never recovered from. Windows 8 isn’t even the full migration into the new subsystem Longhorn would’ve (should have) been. & is okay but isn’t what it could have been. 8 is much better and a fresh start but still has the poor Win32 system attached to it.

        • mustbepbs

          My biggest hurdle with W8 is the lack of the start button. My god I hit that corner so many times.

          • Abhijeet Mishra

            Install Classic Shell, disable hot corners, bam, problem solved. :D

          • ddevito

            or just not install Win8, just sayin :)

          • Abhijeet Mishra

            I thought the same, but Windows 8 is actually nice once you try, albeit after installing Classic Shell. Faster, some nice improvements here and there. Used it for a while just to try it out, and it’s quite good. :D

          • ddevito

            There is no smooth transition between Win32 and WinRT – and the UI differences demonstrate that. Try installing Chrome in Windows 8. Now open the desktop version, log in, sync, etc.

            Now close it, go to the Start screen, and open the Metro version. Yikes – like all you just did never happened..

          • TylerChappell

            Well technically its still in that corner, its just invisible and slightly deeper into the corner lol.

        • bakdroid

          Are you serious? Or smoking crack? Win 8 is by far the worst abomination to come out of Microsoft….ever! Vista and ME don’t hold a candle to Win 8 in pure shittyness Win 7 is probably the best operating system they have released since XP and are pretty much on the same par, though 7 is much smoother and more stable.

          • ddevito

            The WinRT subsystem is fast, stable and clean. Win32 is old, slow, bloated – and has the registry – need I go on? :p

          • bakdroid

            Really? You are using WinRT as your example? It isn’t even being supported. It is only on the Surface and the first Win8 phones. After Pro drops on x86 and ARM devices, WinRT will be the new WebOS of phones/tablets. Enjoy the 5 WinRT developers.

          • TylerChappell

            You clearly must lack the ability to adapt to new software. Windows 8 is nowhere near as bad as Vista and ME, and is ultimately just a cleaner, more optimized Windows 7 at its core with improved touch support.

  • ddevito

    When Ballmer – or anyone at Microsoft – disses anything, it means the company is sweating over it. 75% of all smartphones sold in Q3 this year are Android, and Android will overtake Windows in total OS market share (PC or smartphone) by 2014. Android is taking over the world – and in a post-PC era Microsoft is completely irrelevant.

    And I have been waiting 25 years for this.

    • http://profiles.google.com/adamtruelove Adam Truelove

      The same thing can be said about Apple. A month doesn’t go by when Apple isn’t ripping on Google/Android for something. Do you know why? Because they’re scared.

      • ddevito

        But Apple (and I hate them just as much) has a future with post-PC devices. MSFT has a huge hill to climb. Hipster doofuses love Apple – no one thinks MSFT is cool or relevant these days.

    • Mordecaidrake

      We need desktop computers, Windows isn’t going anywhere.

      • ddevito

        In 2012 yes you do. But not for much longer. The writing’s on the wall.

        • Tom

          I disagree. Android and iOS are both totally inept at running full fledged programs. Perhaps it is because you don’t *need* any of those programs. But I don’t see a powerhouse program like Photoshop or ChemBio Office or Prism (or anything similar) being put on any mobile operating system any time soon, not to mention more power hungry games. It just isn’t going to happen. These OSes are designed for mobile chipsets, not desktop chipsets which have monumentally more power. You think your phone is just as powerful as a top of the line computer that can run the latest programs and games? You think phones will close that gap? If you do, that is laughable, Intel is developing both at about the same rate. Mobile chipsets are about 5 years behind desktop chipsets in terms of power and capability and that is where they’ll stay.

  • ddevito

    …and that’s the exact reason why I’m never leaving Android.

    • ddevito

      I said NEVER!!!!!!

  • John
  • nightscout13

    He’s mad he can’t have control over the greatest thing since sliced bread.

  • MotoRulz

    I have a suggestion where windows might fit handsomely… All jokes aside, the phones are decent at best and have a long way to go before they even approach Android or even IOS.

    • http://twitter.com/darkcomartist darkcomartist

      I haven’t used one but it makes sense. They’re fairly new to the game (by phone standards) so hopefully they’ll get much better. I’m committed to android but the more competition there is the more android will have to innovate to keep up which is always good for us.

  • xboxkid

    I think a better way to phrase it is that Apple is extremely closed and Android is extremely open. If Microsoft can fit in the middle, being moderately open, it will fill a solid niche. I believe it is a need that needs to be filled and I like the thought of it existing. (but I’m still android for life)

  • Greyhame

    Great pic.

    Tune in Tokyo!

  • Jeff

    Heaven forbid we allow extremely intelligent people to innovate in an unrestricted and free-form manner, so they can create new technology that benefits us all…Why would anyone want that?

  • Damu793

    i agree android ecosystem is trash!!

    • Diablo81588

      You’re trash. I rarely have problems with apps from the play store.

    • JoshGroff

      So’s your mom.

  • SuperDave

    An ecosystem that is “wild and uncontrolled”, where you have so much choice and as such, can possibly get malware….

    Hmm, sounds like Microsoft Windows to me. Ballmer, meet kettle.

  • http://twitter.com/pcDroidski PCed

    If Android is wild and uncontrolled- then I don’t even know how to describe Balmer:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc

    • Apostrafee

      Reminds me of the Howard Dean scream

    • Superdroid

      I have one word for you… DELUSIONAL!!!!

    • http://profiles.google.com/morganfboyle morgan boyle

      That guy railed a HUUUGE line of /// before he hit that stage. surprised he didnt have a heart attack.

  • Paradisimo

    How does this guy even still have a job at MS?

    • ddevito

      you answered your own question – because it’s Microsoft.

    • Bj

      blew gates

    • ddevito

      He was friends with Gates in college. Gates did his homework while Ballmer got Gates laid.

      • Paradisimo

        I’d hate to see what those women looked like if Ballmer was the one wranglin’ em in.

        • Droidzilla

          Money can’t buy happiness, but it can buy a lot of gorgeous, ready to go women.

          • Paradisimo

            Agreed but if Ballmer was hooking up Gates when they were both broke college students then that must have been some rotten ass.

          • Droidzilla

            Fair point.

    • TylerChappell

      You need only watch The Pirates of Silicon Valley to understand why.

  • zepfloyd

    >>Ballmer claims that the Android ecosystem is, “wild,” “uncontrolled,” and “not in the consumer’s best interest.”<<

    Sounds like Ballmer is talking exactly about himself and his role at MS. Good going Steve.

    • ddevito

      +1

  • http://twitter.com/MeisterLiTweet Meister_Li

    I’d say Microsofts unethical grabs for control on both mobile and Desktop space are wild and uncontrolled.

  • c_topher_v

    Mr Ballmer wishes Windows 8 was half of what Android is. Trust me, if the Android OS had a Windows logo on it, he would think it was the bee’s knees.

  • adam

    is he wrong though?

    • http://jordanhotmann.com/ Jordan Hotmann

      Ask the average user if they know how to install an app from anything other than the Play Store…most don’t even know you can sideload or use other markets. In theory it could be considered wild and uncontrolled, but in practice I submit that it is nowhere near wild or uncontrolled.

      • http://twitter.com/darkcomartist darkcomartist

        I don’t know. Having “options” doesn’t translate to wild and uncontrolled to me. If Google was trying to have you use only 1 store and did everything in their power to not allow us to side-load apps then it would be wild & uncontrolled.

  • satsmine2k4

    He is right from Microsoft prospective…Android is wild, uncontrolled and hence WPX can never compete with it let alone overtaking android…

  • thronez

    haha when you’re the CEO of one of the most bland, tame and soft companies, everything is wild and uncontrolled.

    • early808

      Its so soft its got to be Microsoft