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DROID RAZR HD Appears in All Its Glory Thanks to Another Forum Leak

One day after the international RAZR HD appeared over at XDA, the U.S. version, better known as the DROID RAZR HD, has appeared via Droid Forums. We now have a confirmation on the name, thanks to a picture of the phone’s About screen – not that we were questioning it to begin with, since Motorola employees gave that up long ago. We also get a look at the backside, which is full-on kevlar, and in my opinion, much more appealing than the backside that we saw on the international version. 

If you thought for a second that this wasn’t coming to Verizon, the 4G LTE logo on the backside along with “Verizon” being mentioned in the system version should help ease your mind there. On-screen navigation keys are present. The “HD” in the name clearly means the resolution of the device, so we will likely see a similar 720p Colorboost display to the one included in the Atrix HD.

Other than that, we can see that the phone is running Android 4.0.4, matches the code name “Vanquish” that we have seen through benchmarks and on other devices, and could be here in a matter of weeks now that it has cruised through the FCC.

Speaking of the FCC, there is a better-than-average chance that this will have a 2530mAh battery. While that may seem a bit smaller than the 3300mAh behemoth that sits inside the RAZR MAXX, it’s still substantially larger than most phones. Looking at this photo of the phone, it appears as if they also managed to keep it very thin. Couple that with the 1.5GHz dual-core Snapdragon S4 processor that we have seen in benchmarks, and this should easily last you a day, possibly more.

So, is this your next phone?

Via:  DroidForums

Cheers Scott!

  • CapnShiner

    So far, my next phone will be a decision between this and the GS3 Developer Edition. I won’t make an uninformed decision, so this needs to become official by the time the GS3 Dev. Ed. goes on sale. I would also consider a Verizon version of the HTC One X, but I think they would have already announced that.

  • Paradisimo

    Just noticed that the firmware build was from 5/25. Apparently even their tester devices are slow to update.

  • Jim McClain

    i’ll wait till its been out a while before getting it for the wife,learned my lesson on the gnex, verizon asked me to trade out my gnex for a maxx, but I told them, as slow as verizon is with update,the maxx will never see Jelly Bean, you wont believe this, but the verizon rep had no idea what Jelly Bean was,,,lol

    • gokusimpson

      Oh, it’s believable.

    • Zero_Point_Energy

      This may be hard for you to understand, but folks like you who demand updates for their phones are a minority. Most people couldn’t care less and have no idea what version they’re running on their phone.

  • SK

    Don’t bother… It’ll take at least a year for Motorola and Verizon to figure out how to upgrade it to Jelly Bean. (so sayeth the Droid Bionic owner… Nexus or iPhone for me next time)

  • http://profiles.google.com/davidukfl David Wanless

    crimson chin!

    that is a pretty big bottom bezel

    • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

      Problem with these big, yet thin batteries. They have to spread everything out more.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kidluni Montrale Hammonds

    But how good is the camera?? Motorola is notorious for using mediocre hardware on its phone’s camera if it’s not close to or on par with the SGIII than come Oct. when my upgrade hits I’ll just get the SGIII or whatever’s the best phone on Verizon .

    • AhsanS

      Wasn’t the RAZR’s camera a big upgrade from the Bionic’s?

  • Mister Burns

    I’ve owned all the droids I think it’s time for a change I’m getting the note 2.

  • RussyJo

    I heard this phone was to run Android 4.1 out of the box, not 4.0…

  • tyguy829

    Holy bottom bezel batman!!

  • VZW-Moto fan

    All the nerdish complaining about ‘locked bootloaders’ is a little overplayed, don’t you think? The fact is, these phones are designed for the masses and manufacturers’ engineers certainly know more about hardware and software design than the people reading these blogs. Certainly, Moto and VZW keep these phones under lock down to prevent the the operational failures that would occur by unqualified people messing with the phone. Can you imaging the support headache that presents for VZW and other wireless providers? These companies value their service and customer support ratings from J P Powers and others, and I doubt they are willing to have those ratings suffer when they are unable to render a phone or network access usable after some idot attempts surgery on the core of the phone.

    • tyguy829

      NO.

    • https://twitter.com/#!/MMcCraryNJ Michael McCrary

      You’re more than entitled to your own opinions and I respect you for having them, but with that stance, I hope you never complain about an OEM/carrier taking 8-9 months to get you an update, or when they cease supporting your phone with future updates/bugfixes 11 months into the life of the phone because they don’t feel like investing money into keeping your device up to date for the length of your contract.

    • http://www.facebook.com/dana.a.sorensen1 Dana Alan

      And how long have you worked for Verizon?

  • Dave

    I actually I’m liking the look of it now. Much improved over the Droid Razr. Let’s just hope the display and camera have improved as well.

    I very much doubt Verizon will allow the bootloader to be unlocked but at least they’re nearly keeping to the stock interface.

  • psynpo

    I wont buy this only 720p that sucks. The htc you guys told us about will be better with 1080p I want that

    • Diablo81588

      Please… There’s no way you can tell the difference between 720p and 1080p at this screen size. Not only that, but the text would be so small that you would need a magnifying glass to read anything.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Frederick-Smith/100002259019137 Frederick Smith

    I don’t know why everyone thinks the S4 will be the solution to our battery life problems. On my Razr (non maxx) the screen accounts for a large majority of my power usage despite having the brightness all the way down. Unless they can find a way to make their screens more efficient I don’t think the processor will play that big of a role.

  • enerjak

    At this point I could care less about a locked bootloader. Given the improvements in Android 4.1, I really have no reason to flash ROMs and I’d only be rooting to perform marginal customizations (and I might even skip on that). I will be purchasing this as soon as I can!

    • Mack

      So you could care less?? Meaning you do care somewhat because you could care less.

      • enerjak

        Kinda yea. I would like an unlockable bootloader but it’s not a dealbreaker for me like it is for some.

    • Big_EZ

      This currently has 4.0.4 not 4.1 I doubt it’ll ship with 4.1

      • enerjak

        Well, it’ll be getting 4.1 soon, right? I can bare with 4.0.4 for a couple of months.

        • Big_EZ

          I’m sure it would within about 6 months

  • RoadsterHD1

    Is this going to have 2gigs of RAM?

    • hkklife

      Unlikely. I don’t know of any devices other than the US and the Korean market refresh of the S3 that have 2GB RAM, aside from the LG Optimus LTE2 but I am not even sure if that one’s been officially launched anywhere yet. Heck, even the top of the line Tegra3 Android tablets are still coming with 1GB, which is rather disappointing.

      Handset specs are usually planned way ahead of time (like 12-18 months or so). Samsung must have pulled off some amazing last-minute spec bumps to get the US versions of these equipped with 2Gb RAM. I was honestly expecting someone like HTC to first have a handset sporting 1.5Gb before the 2Gb milestone. IIRC, HTC was the first one to break the 512Mb ceiling with their 768Mb devices.

      • Tyler Chappell

        And after owning my Thunderbolt, it is a shame to see some devices released with only 512mb. I am looking at you, One V! No reason at all that shouldn’t have had at least 768MB, at least it further assures me that HTC will update my TB to ICS as promised, as they also just confirmed that to me individually on their FB page yesterday.

        • http://www.facebook.com/parrella20 David Parrella

          HAHAHAHA a Thunderbolt on ICS? What a joke….

          • Tyler Chappell

            Except I am running ICS on my Thunderbolt as we speak, and its actually running smooth and working flawlessly despite the atrociousness that is Sense 3.6, which completely takes away the feel of ICS.
            So no, no joke at all actually. ;]

  • Alexander Garcia

    Now that’s more like it… =)

  • Donnydon

    Wheres the 2gb ram? Why would i get this over the S3. I have the maxx and the s3 and honestly my S3 lasts just as long. I am a heavy user and ALWAYS KEEP 4G ON.

  • s23

    Look at the build date….they had this beast ready for a month….

    • gokusimpson

      It’s now August.

  • fartbubbler

    which will get JellyBean first? SGS3, or the RazrHD ?

  • Chris

    WHERE”S THE CHRISTMAS SWEATER BACK?!?!?!?!?!!!

  • nsbjj

    With the battery being 2530mAh and the RAM probably just 1GB I went from a ‘Yes’ to a ‘maybe’? As far as it having a locked or unlocked boot loader goes Verizon could careless. 99.9% of the people have no clue what a boot loader is.

    • OfTheDamned

      Even then 99.9% of the people that know what a bootloader is still have no idea what it means when one is locked.

  • Liderc

    You can’t honestly tell me people like that back cover… It looks childish.

    • http://profiles.google.com/adamtruelove Adam Truelove

      But it’s “cool”

    • evltwn

      Its a hell of a lot better than what we saw yesterday.

      • Liderc

        Yeah, but a pink hello kitty rainbow back cover would be better than that cheezit one.

    • SamIam

      I do. It looks grippy and thin but still robust…the only things I care about in a back cover.

      • Liderc

        It’s not grippy at all if it’s like the Razr, it’s slick.

        • SamIam

          You must be one of those morons that doesn’t know to take off the protective plastic layer it’s shipped with. I have a RAZR MAXX & it’s back feels great: soft to the touch and quite grippy with no finger prints.

          • Liderc

            … yes I left the plastic on my device that I didn’t buy.

            Idiot.

  • http://twitter.com/PercySnow23 RapNamePercySnow

    As a moto fan I think I’m going to buy this phone simply to let my girlfriend use it when she can’t get no reception in no call zone or when the plastic gets hot while holding her Gs3, oops!, did I say Gs3? The phone that everyone only talks about is the display, it does have a nice display doesn’t it ladies? Who really cares about locked boot loaders because somewhere and somehow there’s going to be an app for whatever u want to do..Samsung fans..

  • Knlegend1

    That’s more like it. No cheese it’s.

  • Kierra

    I’m disappointed.
    I wanted that big battery.

  • Buckoman

    Okay. This isn’t as bad as the Cosby Sweater Zip-Zop Jello Pudding Pop edition.

    • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

      Don’t forget Cheez-it. :P

  • KOBALT

    dual-core… pass. Note II, please.

    • Bionic

      Fail

  • mike

    Any confirmation of only an 8mp camera?

    • http://www.facebook.com/mckinley.senders McKinley Senders

      I’m going to guess that we’ll see a 13mp on the Verizon varient. I too would like some assurance after hearing yesterday’s leaked info (of the XT925), but we’ve seen a relative amount of info that says the XT926 (US version) will have a 13mp that I would guess it will be so. It’s not uncommon to have differences in Asia/EU to US versions in hardware specs like this.

      I sinserly hope it indeed does have a 13mp camera. It just another point for Moto to boast and sway people towards them and away from the SGS3 and the new iPhone. This phone has some tough competition and it’ll need all it can get.

      • jaymonster

        I’d take an 8mp over the 13 if they would just improve the quality of the sensor and/or software.

        • http://www.facebook.com/mckinley.senders McKinley Senders

          I agree with you completely. As long as the image sensor is high quality then they could have that 8mp for all I care. I just want a decent sensor.

  • http://techonblogger.ward.pro/ TechRumblings

    Without the battery, an unlocked boot loader is the only thing that will make this phone interesting to me. I really wanted to love this phone :(

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ryan-Cheng/1402836859 Ryan Cheng

    dont you guys think the back looks like a Galaxy Note?

    • http://www.facebook.com/mckinley.senders McKinley Senders

      There are only so many designs you can accomplish with a candy-bar style phone. At least we know that Samsung is a step above apple in the “I’m taking your ass to court ’cause your phone is a rectangle’ department. Personally I love the style of the speaker slots with the diagonal lines the Kevlar creates.

      • https://plus.google.com/110773438514346746273/ tjhrulz

        But before Motorola was bought by Google moto was going to sue other android OEMs

        • SamIam

          It’s must be true because you read it on the intertubs, right?

    • SamIam

      Time to visit the optometrist, Ryan.

  • http://www.facebook.com/soccermadman Allen George

    If it has an unlocked bootloader, I would buy it. If not HELL TO THE NO.

    • CapnShiner

      What if has an unlockABLE bootloader? What if the XDA community finds a way to unlock it?

  • r0lct

    I think Moto is back in the game with this one. Assuming the real world battery life is close to the MAXX I would choose this over an S3.

  • daryle barden jr

    Now only if this was Stock ICS or atleast came with a unlocked bootloader.

  • geedee82

    Move ova, hova, I’m a true soldier / got this sh!t locked down, like a motorola bootloada!

    biiiiiaaaaattch! what! haha

  • UrDoGG

    No hardware buttons – quite awesome. Good job Motorola. This is the first Moto phone that I would actually consider getting. If Moto gets a stab at producing a Nexus, then I think this type of hardware would be perfect. It’s a shame that it doesn’t come with JB though. But again Moto, good job.

  • Viciousking1914

    DON’T DO IT!!! Remember what happened last time……..Wait for the Droid RAZR HD MAXX

    • JoshGroff

      Mentions AT&T’s Galaxy SII, nuff said.

    • paul_cus

      yeah, because this joke isn’t old as hell.

  • Daniel Maginnis

    this is the phone i’m waiting for. i have lost all hope at a top tier keyboard phone. my droid 3 is slower than snot compared to my nexus 7. so hopefully this comes out by the end of the year. i really dont want a gs3.

    • NemaCystX

      The fact that I can only get blue or white is a huge turn off for me, I wanted black. Plus the locked bootloader and TouchWiz are bleh to me. The amount of accessories the S3 already has is mind blowing (from third parties).

  • http://www.facebook.com/LuisElTiburon Luis Rojas

    People need to stop crying about the battery. The S4 is efficient. A 2600 mAh battery will an S4 will probably outlast a 3300 mAh batter with an OMAP 4

    • fartbubbler

      true. With my SGS3 I’m regularly getting between 4-5 hours of screen time on.

      • hkklife

        Not to go OT, but I don’t know how everyone is getting such good SGS3 run times.

        I have disabled every gesture, piece of bloatware, S-Voice etc on my S3 and keep the screen at 50% or less and I am routinely looking for an outlet by 6pm on an average workday in an area of decent LTE coverage. I usually keep LTE off and stay on wi-fi during the day, in fact. I have been closely monitoring my battery stats and the Dolphin or Chrome are the biggest usage culprits 95% of the time. I’ve even tried running it without my microSD card installed to keep the media scanner from running.

        i have nothing synching but Gmail. Heck, I even got one of the Hyperion 4200mAh extended batteries last week and I can still come close to killing it after a heavy usage day. The S3 with the 4200mAh battery barely lasts longer than my Bionic did running 902 and the Moto 2760mAh extended battery.

        Time for a hard reset, a ROM or a return to VZW, perhaps?

        • tyguy829

          Try better battery stats. It will tell you what’s eating your battery

        • iamme

          i have everything on and im running without a charge from 7am to 11pm

        • DeathfireD

          I get 17 hours of battery life using it for facebook, web browsing, gtalk, google voice, four square, s-voice, and taking photos. I keep the screen on 3% and only turn on auto when I’m outside of a building. I could easily go a day and a half if I only used my phone for gtalk and google voice.

  • Guest

    Would buy this in a heart beat if the bootloader was unlocked, all I gotta say

    • Daniel Maginnis

      maybe i’m naive, but i have rooted and loaded roms on my droid 3 with locked bootloader. whats the big deal?

      • NemaCystX

        Kernel?

        • Diablo81588

          Kexec?

      • Bill Mitchell

        Yeah, the kernel is the big thing, it’s what makes your system potentially run faster and have better battery life. It also makes it easier to update to newer OS versions.

        • Daniel Maginnis

          i see.

        • Big_EZ

          It didn’t help get newer os versions on the t bolt, it took forever (not even sure they ever did get ICS running).

          • Bill Mitchell

            Well the unlock tool came out for the Thunderbolt like 9 months after it was released, so that couldn’t help :p They do have some ICS roms out for it, kinda buggy though. That’s usually a hardware fault.

          • Big_EZ

            It was easy to change the bootloader to an unlocked bootloader from early on. I got one within the first month and I unlocked the bootloader about 30 minutes after I bought it.

      • Steve Wojciechowski

        usually you need an unlocked bootloader to make changes to the kernel

      • kretz7

        All these people are mistaken. The bootloader comes locked on many (maybe all phones) – yes, even the nexus. Motorolla encrypts them, which is the cause for all the hate.

  • U Mad Bro? No But Your Mom Is

    I am gonna hold off on getting this b/c after this they are realeasing the Droid Super RAZR HDx2 MAXXIMUMEST EVER.

  • Michael Franz

    Until the RAZR HD Maxx comes out….womp womp

  • YourFriend

    As much as I would love this phone, sadly I don’t think it’s enough. The battery probably won’t be enough to take on the GSIII since it’s not the 3300mAh battery, even if it does have the S4. Not to mention the 6th gen iPhone is around the corner.

  • Butters619

    Nobody pointed out the lack of camera hump (which was included on the Atrix HS mind you). I like it.

    • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

      least the back isn’t a bunch of cheezits.

      • Butters619

        It was like Louis Vuitton and cheese it made a phone.

    • https://plus.google.com/110773438514346746273/ tjhrulz

      I don’t know look at the shading I think it does have one albeit minute.

      • NemaCystX

        Its more of a ramp’d hump, making it more slanted than a hump. Its evenly distributed through the entire back till it reaches near the end. I love the Kevlar back

    • http://www.facebook.com/mckinley.senders McKinley Senders

      There is a bump but it’s a very small one.
      The only question that I still have is, was the leaked info that came out yesterday about the international version’s 8mp camera true for the Verizon bound handset. We’ve been hearing all over the place about a 13mp camera. THis phone needs all it can get to compete with the SGS3 and the prospect of a new iPhone coming out in just under a couple months. I personally think this device should have come with Jellybean out of the box and 2 gigs of ram, but that’s just me.
      I’ll get this if it has an unlocked bootloader but if Verizon pulls that old bs again then I’m waiting until the new Nexus device(s)… and I won’t be getting it at Verizon’s store, that’s for damn sure. Google play store with any and all Nexus that come my way (the fact that JB has taken this long to hit the Nexus LTE is mindblowing). Hopefully this trend that Verizon/Moto started with the Photon Q continues. I’ll ditch Moto’s new surprisingly decent UI for the new CM10 JB.

  • NemaCystX

    Do we have specs yet? like the processor, RAM, and screen size? I was holding out till later this month to get a S3 but figured I would wait a little longer to see what might be coming. If its not comparable to the S3, I’ll have to see what HTC might be cooking up.

    • John

      Ya but it’s all speculation

      • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

        According to benchmarks, it will have an HD screen, we just don’t know the size yet. Possibly 4.6″ though. It will have a 1.5GHz dual-core Snapdragon S4, a 2530mAh battery, and probably just 1GB of RAM. Camera is up the air, but rumored to be 13MP.

        • NemaCystX

          I saw the leaked photo it took, very nice, hopefully it puts my Nexus camera to shame… I absolutely love that Motorola went with on screen buttons. Maybe this will be the Motorola device I buy and actually like. I disliked the Droid X because of all the hardware issues it had, but I need to find a device thats comparable to the S3 since I will be voluntarily losing unlimited data to add my family to my line. I am going to use that opportunity to get a new subsidized device. Screw Verizon for share everything…

          • Alex P.

            I personally can’t wait to see what’s in store for the Droid Razr HD because I have been following it on and off since March or April… can’t remember. My contract is up soon this month, and I am part of a family with an older unlimited data plan(not even from Verizon, but on it)… Sooo I have to buy a new phone full price, which sucks. Maybe I’ll go with Amazon or somewhere other than Verizon. I know I have to pick the right phone and can wait with patience until Christmas… maybe
            I hope some of what’s been through over this long period of time are controlled leaks. Low expectations and disappointment leave room for surprises(ex: leaking lower specs or older versions) then releasing something with specs above it’s competition. It would be in their best interest to do this to draw in consumers. I am waiting for when it will have JB & to see if there is a modified “Maxx” version in the works to buy one. Anyone else?
            I wouldn’t mind having 2 gb of RAM or an unencrypted bootloader, but it’s not a deal breaker to me as well as camera. I also see no point in a quad core phone for me right now(not an avid multi-tasker), especially when it takes a hit on battery life and companies aren’t really pushing towards bigger batteries except Moto.
            I am a big fan of Moto’s build quality&durability; my droid 2 global is still going strong. I am just ready for some 4G, dual core, even better battery than my extended, and a bigger screen than 3.7″.
            I do wish they would stray away for non-removable batteries. I’m curious for anyone who has experience. How much more than 2 years will a phone battery stay good with battery calibration every once in a while? Just wondering, as I will probably have this phone for a looong time with no more unlimited data contract phones… unless a Moto phone comes out that just blows my mind in the future.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mckinley.senders McKinley Senders

            I agree with the quad-core statement. But I do think that another gig of memory would do this phone some good.

          • Alex P.

            Yes, it would help it… especially against other company competition.

            I just want to stick with Motorola personally. I had two LG phones before my Droid 2 Global that were good, but neither were Android smartphones. I can attest to Moto’s build quality. I have dropped my phone a bit in these past two years, not as much as most people probably, but still quite a few times(scratched and gouged corners).
            My dad also has a D2G and dropped it while he was mowing at night not too long ago. Listening to music, he realized instantly what had happened. He found it shoved into the ground on the corner with the qwerty slider open dirt on the keys. Run over by a Gravely mower. Yeah, it still works fine… :D Go Moto!

        • http://twitter.com/redbullcat Phil Oakley

          Didn’t you say yesterday it’ll be an 8mp camera? Or is that just for the international version?

          • http://www.facebook.com/mckinley.senders McKinley Senders

            International version. But even that information was posted on a forum as being from a “friend of a friend.”
            And we don’t know anything but rumors and past leaked benches at this point. My hope is that it has a decent image sensor. More mp =/= better pictures.

        • fartbubbler

          only 1gb of ram? that’s disappointing, and will make it even tougher to discard my SGS3 for this :(

          • http://www.facebook.com/mckinley.senders McKinley Senders

            Personally. I bought a SGS3 but didn’t open the box and am just waiting for either this device or the new Nexus in Nov. It looks like I might get more bang for my buck if I wait a bit longer for something to release here in the next couple-few months. The specs of this Razr HD are decent but again, I think this device with these specs should have been released just before the SGS3 was announced. 1 gig of ram, S4 processor, and 720p display don’t really stand out anymore when placed next to the competition. And I don’t think that a cool Kevlar body and a 13mp camera are enough to keep me from waiting for something better to come out in the coming weeks/months. If it had another gig of ram and an unlocked bootloader then I’d probably get it and just throw on CM10 and call it good. But why do that when I can get a real Nexus device here in a few months from the google play store and not have to worry about Verizon taking donkeys years to update the damn thing.
            This phone for me a just simply a bit too little a bit too late… as cool as it looks. Its too bad. But I’m just one of those guys that always wants the next best thing hahaha

  • htowngtr

    But…. does it have that big battery? Looks a bit thin for it.

    • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

      I believe it has around 2300 mah according to other leaks.

  • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

    If it had an unlockable bootloader…? Maybe. Just maybe…
    And the 3300 mah battery like the maxx
    I’ll wait for the MOTO RAZR HD MAXX

    • http://www.facebook.com/LuisElTiburon Luis Rojas

      The point that a lot of people are missing that the Snapdragon S4 is amazing in the battery department. I have a S3 and with its 2100 mah battery I get anywhere from 14 hours with heavy use to 22 hours with moderate use. 4g LTE all day

      • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

        Still. Knowing they didn’t add the huge ass battery is still underwhelming.

        • NemaCystX

          Probably saved that for the RAZR HD MAXX, if there going to release a variant with just a bigger battery, why not just release the MAXX variant as the original instead? these companies always competing for thinner devices over battery capacity is beyond me…

        • GNEX(MOTOX)

          still keepin my gnex :)> Just waiting for some jelly beans!

          • TheKaz1969

            yeah, was hoping to see a 4.1 on this instead of the 4.0.4

      • http://www.facebook.com/jaxon.wright Jaxon Wright

        and I get 1day 6hrs most of the time on my maxx with moderate use

    • kixofmyg0t

      Moto said they’re gonna unlock bootloaders starting with the Photon Q. The RAZR HD is coming AFTER the Photon Q…..

      Guess what that means……

      • https://plus.google.com/110773438514346746273/ tjhrulz

        Google has convinced Moto to stop locking bootloaders?

        • http://twitter.com/nerdydesi Nerdy Desi

          But will Google manage to convince Verizon? Probably not. :(

          • http://twitter.com/redbullcat Phil Oakley

            Yup, it’s Verizon locking the bootloaders, not Moto. The international versions of Moto’s phones (the Motorola Razr Maxx, for example) has an unlocked bootloader AFAIK.

          • NemaCystX

            We have the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon and its Unlockable I think the story behind the S3 being locked has more behind the scenes stuff involved. Kinda like “Ok, we’ll carry the S3, but since its available on all carriers and no exclusivity involved, we want a locked bootloader” So no negotiating power for Samsung since no exclusives for Verizon to benefit from, so they couldn’t ask probably to keep the unlocked bootloader like on other carriers.

            Atleast that’s how I look at it.

      • chris125

        They said that last year too…

    • NemaCystX

      It probably will since Motorola already announced they found a solution and it will start doing the unlock process soon that is similar to the way HTC does it probably.

      • tomn1ce

        It’s funny how Moto said that they found a solution to unlock the bootloader when they were the ones who actually built the device. Make it without encrypting the bootloader and you don’t have to look for a solution to uncrypt it. Vzw in the other hand is going to have this locked down. Look what they did to the GS3. Samsung has to make a separate developer edtion of the GS3 for vzw customers.

        • Zero_Point_Energy

          They’ll probably do something similar to what they did with the Xoom, that is make it possible to unlock the bootloader permanently which voids the warranty.

    • Zero_Point_Energy

      2530 mAh battery isn’t big enough for you?

  • http://twitter.com/TheMuffStuff Danny B

    I think it will be motorolas s3/hox. It will be a top notch device for verizon, specially if the bootloader is unlocked, since the one on the photon 2 was.

  • https://plus.google.com/110773438514346746273/ tjhrulz

    Atleast they are following the Google design cues by using on screen navigation buttons and ICS still looks like ICS.

    • http://profiles.google.com/adamtruelove Adam Truelove

      And yet they felt the need to tweak ICS ever so slightly for a nearly zero value add to the customer. I just don’t get it. It’s like they want to justify the existence of their software developers by having them tweak things that already work perfect.

      • NemaCystX

        They want to stand out against other brands or devices. Thats why OEM’s make skins. They sometimes do add value by adding features you normally wouldn’t get on stock. For example, my GalaxyTab 10 with Stock is awesome, but with TouchWiz I gained even more features, but I hate TouchWiz on phones… it looks too iPhon’ish to me…

        • http://profiles.google.com/adamtruelove Adam Truelove

          I know why they do it, that doesn’t make it right. Everyone once in a great while they will introduce a useful feature to their skins, but it’s rare.

    • Jarren

      .. and the Verizon logo at the bottom. But I’m sure that will be added in due time.

      • iamme

        vzw has been adding the logos on the back of the phone lately instead i.e. gs3

    • http://twitter.com/plan9z Ben Z

      On screen buttons stink. Look at all of that unused real estate below the screen. Just perfect for a nice BIG Verizon logo.

      • http://twitter.com/AlvaDMorell Alva D. Morell

        I have been closely monitoring my battery stats and the Dolphin or Chrome are the biggest usage culprits 95% of the time...FreeLancerGetWork.blogspot.com

      • Greg

        shhhhhh! maybe they forgot.

      • iamme

        they wont

    • michael arazan

      Google should really step up here and put JB on it. And what ever happened to the Razr maxx dev phone? I’m wondering if Motorola is going to release one more Razr phone before the year is out.

  • triangle8

    It should be a nice device, but I’m happy with my SGS3 and wouldn’t trade it for that.

  • U Mad Bro? No But Your Mom Is

    First…yeah, that just happened.