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	<title>Comments on: Tuesday Poll:  Are You Ready to Adopt Google Drive For All of Your Cloud Storage Needs?</title>
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		<title>By: Iillxllii Ili</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/24/tuesday-poll-are-you-ready-to-adopt-google-drive-for-all-of-your-cloud-storage-needs/comment-page-2/#comment-1834210</link>
		<dc:creator>Iillxllii Ili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The best for me has been Sugarsync. A big comparison chart is available here: http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1080740/bigchart-7.jpeg
Unlike dropbox or google drive, you can sync any folder and backup any folder. you can upload by email too. Sugarsync allows to sync multiple computers and can sync folders between multiple computers.
Sugarsync gives 5gb, extra 0.5gb for using the link below, 2gb for inviting 20 friends,625mb for completing some simple steps and additional 250mb if you download and complete simple tasks on your smartphone app.Then there is the option of500mb per successful referral, 10gb if they take up a paid account.
I got 8.375gb (5+0.5+2+0.625+0.250) within minutes. Get it by clicking this link: http://bit.ly/KbjOKH. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best for me has been Sugarsync. A big comparison chart is available here: <a href="http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1080740/bigchart-7.jpeg" rel="nofollow">http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1080740/bigchart-7.jpeg</a><br />
Unlike dropbox or google drive, you can sync any folder and backup any folder. you can upload by email too. Sugarsync allows to sync multiple computers and can sync folders between multiple computers.<br />
Sugarsync gives 5gb, extra 0.5gb for using the link below, 2gb for inviting 20 friends,625mb for completing some simple steps and additional 250mb if you download and complete simple tasks on your smartphone app.Then there is the option of500mb per successful referral, 10gb if they take up a paid account.<br />
I got 8.375gb (5+0.5+2+0.625+0.250) within minutes. Get it by clicking this link: <a href="http://bit.ly/KbjOKH" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/KbjOKH</a>. </p>
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		<title>By: jonny6pak</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/24/tuesday-poll-are-you-ready-to-adopt-google-drive-for-all-of-your-cloud-storage-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-1640101</link>
		<dc:creator>jonny6pak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 04:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You might want to read that again because it specifies more than that.  I&#039;m done with this one.  You seem to have more an agenda over anything else.  Even the theverge.com article you originally posted doesn&#039;t support your position.  Go spread your FUD.  I&#039;m out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might want to read that again because it specifies more than that.  I&#8217;m done with this one.  You seem to have more an agenda over anything else.  Even the theverge.com article you originally posted doesn&#8217;t support your position.  Go spread your FUD.  I&#8217;m out.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharrief Ibn Kamal Shabazz</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/24/tuesday-poll-are-you-ready-to-adopt-google-drive-for-all-of-your-cloud-storage-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-1639677</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharrief Ibn Kamal Shabazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 23:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like they say here, the Privacy Policy does not mention content you upload, but rather information that identifies you.


http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/25/2973849/google-drive-terms-privacy-data-skydrive-dropbox-icloud ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like they say here, the Privacy Policy does not mention content you upload, but rather information that identifies you.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/25/2973849/google-drive-terms-privacy-data-skydrive-dropbox-icloud " rel="nofollow">http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/25/2973849/google-drive-terms-privacy-data-skydrive-dropbox-icloud </a></p>
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		<title>By: Captain_Doug</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/24/tuesday-poll-are-you-ready-to-adopt-google-drive-for-all-of-your-cloud-storage-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-1638812</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain_Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mine is 100mb. I definitely see how even 100mb is a huge limitation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mine is 100mb. I definitely see how even 100mb is a huge limitation.</p>
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		<title>By: jonny6pak</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/24/tuesday-poll-are-you-ready-to-adopt-google-drive-for-all-of-your-cloud-storage-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-1638624</link>
		<dc:creator>jonny6pak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IANYL/TINLA:  No, they are not (love the user name btw, South Park rules).  If they were taking such rights, you would see some additional language about royalties and rights passing to heirs and the likes.  Plus, the license you grant in the content to Google is limited only to operating, promoting, improving, and developing services.  Further, any settings in a system that narrow the license even more, apply if you enable those settings.  Such as marking a file as private and unavailable for anyone but you.


Let&#039;s argue semantics for fun, ignore the privacy policy, and say Google could use your data to develop new services per the license.  They take your novel that you privately saved to your drive (you didn&#039;t put it in the public domain) and Google uses the content for a new Google Paperback service that gives readers access to novels (free or paid). At the end of the day, you still own the intellectual property covering that item and you can revoke the license to Google.  Unless, of course, you put the novel in the public domain.  But if you do that, then anyone and their brother could republish your book for profit and Google&#039;s license wouldn&#039;t really matter.  Even so, use of our novel in such a service is out of the scope of operating, improving, promoting, and developing services.  While the such uses of the novel could aid in operating, improving, promoting, and developing the service, the primary use is outside of that scope.  The purpose of posting your novel would be to sublicensing the content to third parties.  That&#039;s not something specified in the license you granted.  Alternatively, we could say Google&#039;s use in such a case is to distribute licensed content in the public domain, which wouldn&#039;t be authorized by the license you granted anyways unless you publicly put the novel in the public domain beforehand.
Google&#039;s biggest problem with everyone&#039;s interpretation is their desire to have one license covering all their products.  It lowers their legal risks to keep things consistent.  But verbiage that might be easily understood for something public, like Google+, seems improper for something like cloud storage.  But you ultimately own the intellectual property, that does not transfer.  This is just a license that lets Google do what they need to do in order to provide the service.  

A license is not a transfer of ownership, think of it like a rental agreement.  You can always revoke the license you granted unless the license itself state&#039;s it&#039;s unrevokable and some part of intellectual property law doesn&#039;t overcome such a statement.  Now, the Google license does have one element that you technically cannot revoke--where it stays that certain uses under the license continues even after you stop using the service.  This is to ensure Google doesn&#039;t have to make any crazy administrative systems to manage conent you post to Google that is out of your control once you post it, like a business listing in Google Search (the example used in the license).  

That doesn&#039;t mean that Google can make Google Novels, store your private file for public consumption out of your control, and leave you screwed.  You never posted something into a public system, so the surviving license doesn&#039;t extend out to such a service.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IANYL/TINLA:  No, they are not (love the user name btw, South Park rules).  If they were taking such rights, you would see some additional language about royalties and rights passing to heirs and the likes.  Plus, the license you grant in the content to Google is limited only to operating, promoting, improving, and developing services.  Further, any settings in a system that narrow the license even more, apply if you enable those settings.  Such as marking a file as private and unavailable for anyone but you.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s argue semantics for fun, ignore the privacy policy, and say Google could use your data to develop new services per the license.  They take your novel that you privately saved to your drive (you didn&#8217;t put it in the public domain) and Google uses the content for a new Google Paperback service that gives readers access to novels (free or paid). At the end of the day, you still own the intellectual property covering that item and you can revoke the license to Google.  Unless, of course, you put the novel in the public domain.  But if you do that, then anyone and their brother could republish your book for profit and Google&#8217;s license wouldn&#8217;t really matter.  Even so, use of our novel in such a service is out of the scope of operating, improving, promoting, and developing services.  While the such uses of the novel could aid in operating, improving, promoting, and developing the service, the primary use is outside of that scope.  The purpose of posting your novel would be to sublicensing the content to third parties.  That&#8217;s not something specified in the license you granted.  Alternatively, we could say Google&#8217;s use in such a case is to distribute licensed content in the public domain, which wouldn&#8217;t be authorized by the license you granted anyways unless you publicly put the novel in the public domain beforehand.<br />
Google&#8217;s biggest problem with everyone&#8217;s interpretation is their desire to have one license covering all their products.  It lowers their legal risks to keep things consistent.  But verbiage that might be easily understood for something public, like Google+, seems improper for something like cloud storage.  But you ultimately own the intellectual property, that does not transfer.  This is just a license that lets Google do what they need to do in order to provide the service.  </p>
<p>A license is not a transfer of ownership, think of it like a rental agreement.  You can always revoke the license you granted unless the license itself state&#8217;s it&#8217;s unrevokable and some part of intellectual property law doesn&#8217;t overcome such a statement.  Now, the Google license does have one element that you technically cannot revoke&#8211;where it stays that certain uses under the license continues even after you stop using the service.  This is to ensure Google doesn&#8217;t have to make any crazy administrative systems to manage conent you post to Google that is out of your control once you post it, like a business listing in Google Search (the example used in the license).  </p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean that Google can make Google Novels, store your private file for public consumption out of your control, and leave you screwed.  You never posted something into a public system, so the surviving license doesn&#8217;t extend out to such a service.</p>
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		<title>By: jonny6pak</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/24/tuesday-poll-are-you-ready-to-adopt-google-drive-for-all-of-your-cloud-storage-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-1638515</link>
		<dc:creator>jonny6pak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This article seems more FUD than anything else and I don&#039;t find it to be very thoughtful in its analyses of the scope of Google&#039;s TOS, which operates across all Google products.    The license is still not transferring ownership, which the article notes, but it complains about use of data after discontinuing use of a Google service.  Google would need an indefinite license (1) if you upload something to the service and discontinue use, but fail to delete all instances of the item,  (2) if Google caches the information as is a feature of many Google items, or (3) if you post it to a Google service you don&#039;t control (another person&#039;s shared drive or G+ wall).  In all those cases, the limited license must survive after you discontinue use of Google&#039;s services.  If someone doesn&#039;t like the idea of cashing information or posting to elements of the web he or she does not control, then that&#039;s not an issue with the licensing terms.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article seems more FUD than anything else and I don&#8217;t find it to be very thoughtful in its analyses of the scope of Google&#8217;s TOS, which operates across all Google products.    The license is still not transferring ownership, which the article notes, but it complains about use of data after discontinuing use of a Google service.  Google would need an indefinite license (1) if you upload something to the service and discontinue use, but fail to delete all instances of the item,  (2) if Google caches the information as is a feature of many Google items, or (3) if you post it to a Google service you don&#8217;t control (another person&#8217;s shared drive or G+ wall).  In all those cases, the limited license must survive after you discontinue use of Google&#8217;s services.  If someone doesn&#8217;t like the idea of cashing information or posting to elements of the web he or she does not control, then that&#8217;s not an issue with the licensing terms.  </p>
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		<title>By: Panicswhenubered</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/24/tuesday-poll-are-you-ready-to-adopt-google-drive-for-all-of-your-cloud-storage-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-1637773</link>
		<dc:creator>Panicswhenubered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[His TOS quotes are directly from a Cnet article titled: &quot;Who Owns Your Files on Google Drive&quot;.

Go read the article, it&#039;s pretty well written and it&#039;s pretty scary at the same time. I will continue to use Dropbox for my cloud storage. It&#039;s bad enough that Google reads everything I send/receive in Gmail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His TOS quotes are directly from a Cnet article titled: &#8220;Who Owns Your Files on Google Drive&#8221;.</p>
<p>Go read the article, it&#8217;s pretty well written and it&#8217;s pretty scary at the same time. I will continue to use Dropbox for my cloud storage. It&#8217;s bad enough that Google reads everything I send/receive in Gmail.</p>
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		<title>By: Panicswhenubered</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/24/tuesday-poll-are-you-ready-to-adopt-google-drive-for-all-of-your-cloud-storage-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-1637770</link>
		<dc:creator>Panicswhenubered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57420551-93/who-owns-your-files-on-google-drive/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57420551-93/who-owns-your-files-on-google-drive/" rel="nofollow">http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57420551-93/who-owns-your-files-on-google-drive/</a></p>
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		<title>By: MooseCat</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/24/tuesday-poll-are-you-ready-to-adopt-google-drive-for-all-of-your-cloud-storage-needs/comment-page-2/#comment-1637588</link>
		<dc:creator>MooseCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 12:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I played with it a little yesterday and I&#039;ll be keeping Dropbox around until I can download synced files from Google Drive onto my phone.  You can download synced files on a desktop through their web interface but I didn&#039;t see anything in the mobile app that allows you to do the same.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I played with it a little yesterday and I&#8217;ll be keeping Dropbox around until I can download synced files from Google Drive onto my phone.  You can download synced files on a desktop through their web interface but I didn&#8217;t see anything in the mobile app that allows you to do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Noyfb</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/24/tuesday-poll-are-you-ready-to-adopt-google-drive-for-all-of-your-cloud-storage-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-1637431</link>
		<dc:creator>Noyfb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 09:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you can&#039;t upload hd videos to box, i already uploaded a 10 minute 720 hd video from my phone to drive and it went up with no problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can&#8217;t upload hd videos to box, i already uploaded a 10 minute 720 hd video from my phone to drive and it went up with no problem.</p>
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		<title>By: yahoo-4FK7THEOSHI4UJDSKNNQAX7CVA</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/24/tuesday-poll-are-you-ready-to-adopt-google-drive-for-all-of-your-cloud-storage-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-1637398</link>
		<dc:creator>yahoo-4FK7THEOSHI4UJDSKNNQAX7CVA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 08:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One more big disadvantage: if you are on a mobile device you have to worry about data overages. And even if you have unlimited, if you are on At&amp;t you will get throttled if you go too crazy with cloud data.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more big disadvantage: if you are on a mobile device you have to worry about data overages. And even if you have unlimited, if you are on At&amp;t you will get throttled if you go too crazy with cloud data.</p>
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		<title>By: yahoo-4FK7THEOSHI4UJDSKNNQAX7CVA</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/24/tuesday-poll-are-you-ready-to-adopt-google-drive-for-all-of-your-cloud-storage-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-1637397</link>
		<dc:creator>yahoo-4FK7THEOSHI4UJDSKNNQAX7CVA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 08:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is exactly what I was thinking. I think the idea of having all your data on cloud is terrible. For the one advantage of being able to access it from anywhere, I guess 2 advantages if you count easier sharing, you have to deal with: The servers can go down, the servers can be hacked, your internet could be down. Privacy can be violated, the service can shut down completely, and finally depending on what medium you are comparing it to (usb3, sata, firewire, etc) transfers can be much slower. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is exactly what I was thinking. I think the idea of having all your data on cloud is terrible. For the one advantage of being able to access it from anywhere, I guess 2 advantages if you count easier sharing, you have to deal with: The servers can go down, the servers can be hacked, your internet could be down. Privacy can be violated, the service can shut down completely, and finally depending on what medium you are comparing it to (usb3, sata, firewire, etc) transfers can be much slower. </p>
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		<title>By: Booboolala2000</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/24/tuesday-poll-are-you-ready-to-adopt-google-drive-for-all-of-your-cloud-storage-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-1636376</link>
		<dc:creator>Booboolala2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 01:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Been using google docs from the beginning so this is a no brainer for me. 5gig does seem kinda small. I upgraded to 25 gig. $30/year not bad. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been using google docs from the beginning so this is a no brainer for me. 5gig does seem kinda small. I upgraded to 25 gig. $30/year not bad. </p>
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		<title>By: OhAaron</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/24/tuesday-poll-are-you-ready-to-adopt-google-drive-for-all-of-your-cloud-storage-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-1636356</link>
		<dc:creator>OhAaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 01:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;re currently wait-listed, you can grab the desktop client here: 
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617291]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re currently wait-listed, you can grab the desktop client here: <br />
<a href="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617291" rel="nofollow">http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617291</a></p>
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		<title>By: Redraven</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/24/tuesday-poll-are-you-ready-to-adopt-google-drive-for-all-of-your-cloud-storage-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-1636311</link>
		<dc:creator>Redraven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 01:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bought the 200 GB extra space, it was the price of 50 on dropbox and except for syncing iso&#039;s of full games between computers, is exactly as capable]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bought the 200 GB extra space, it was the price of 50 on dropbox and except for syncing iso&#8217;s of full games between computers, is exactly as capable</p>
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