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Google No Longer “Supports” the LTE/CDMA Verizon Galaxy Nexus? (Updated)

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Update:  So rather than make you read through this long drawn out mess, we decided to post a summary to get you up to speed since a number of folks are still coming to this specific post.

This afternoon, a reader of ours noticed that the Android Developer pages were updated to show that they no longer support CDMA devices. Without any word from Google on these changes, we started asking important questions and posted this story since that affects the LTE Galaxy Nexus, XOOM LTE and Nexus S 4G. Could this change the way updates are issued? What about factory images? What does it mean to no longer be “supported?” All questions that we feel we deserved answers to.

Once enough of a stir was caused, a statement was issued by an Android engineer. Basically where we stand now, is that according to Google’s standards for AOSP, CDMA devices cannot be officially “supported.” It’s an odd situation and one that even some of our readers who create their own AOSP ROMs are having a hard time wrapping their brains around.

Thankfully Google has assured us that the LTE Galaxy Nexus and all other “Nexus” devices will still receive timely updates, remain unlocked, etc.

You can read their full statement here.  

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Wow, so I’m not really sure where to start with this head-scratch-worthy news. Thanks to a reader, we have now realized that the LTE/CDMA version of the Galaxy Nexus that thousands of you purchased, may no longer be considered a “supported” developer device by Google. You will notice in the screenshot above that the device “toro” – which was the codename for the device – has been removed from the list of supported devices. There is also a note above that which reads “No CDMA devices are supported.” Not sure it could be any clearer than that.

Update:  As some have pointed out, the “crespo4g” has also been removed which is the Nexus S 4G with Sprint (another CDMA device).

Update 2:  “stingray” is also gone – that would be the LTE/CDMA Motorola XOOM.

But to make matters even more interesting, we dug a little deeper into a cached page from January 28 that clearly shows “toro” as still being a part of their plans. It also included special CDMA radio instructions for developers which have now been removed. Picture below.

And just in case you needed even more proof, here is the factory image site which says that the LTE Nexus builds are there for “reference only.” We also pulled the cached page of it from January 28 which of course, does not mention “reference only” anywhere:

Why would this happen and what exactly does it mean? Only the Android team, Google and Verizon (probably just those two since it’s all CDMA devices) know for sure.

Could it have anything to do with the Google Wallet situation? We know that the app was updated and made available to basically all Nexus devices within the last couple of days, but not the Verizon version. Maybe there was a breakdown in negotiations which took the phone out of their “Nexus” title requirements. Seems doubtful. Then what could it be?

I think one thing we all want to know is how this impacts updates in the future. One of the main reasons we purchased this phone was to be at the front of the line when it came to new OS deliveries. Will this impact that? Will we still see factory images after major releases? What else changes?

Would love some further explanation from not only devs, but maybe even the Android team on how this status impacts CDMA phones going forward. Why would CDMA not be supported at all? Because it’s a dying technology and its reach is limited? GSM is clearly a more global option.

Update 3:  As our friends at Phandroid have pointed out, this could be Google’s way of streamlining their “supported” devices. GSM is a more widely adopted option across the global, so limiting their official support to those phones probably makes more sense. This more than likely has nothing to do with updates or anything that should completely ruin your day.

Update 4:  Google has issued a statement. It definitely has to do with CDMA tech and its conflicts with AOSP code.

Hopefully we will have some answers soon. Try to stay calm, for now.

Links:  Developer Devices Page | Cached Version from January 28 | Factory Image Page

Cheers Adam!

  • http://www.facebook.com/zkrpan Zach Krpan

    I would second the not getting into Windows Phone its Unfonished has no app support and is slow as all hell

  • Justin

    How many Galaxy Nexus were sold?

  • LaughingAtYou

    I am so glad I bought the iPhone 4S instead of the GNex.  At least Apple supports their products.  I was a hardcore Android user for 2+ years, but this lack of vision and support from Google is the reason I switched.

    • Anonymous

      LOL…this phone will still be supported. And will still do more than the iPhone could dream of doing. owning an iPhone is like owning a Ferrari that you’re only allowed to drive around the block, and then only on Tuesdays and Thursdays. I’d rather have the Corvette that I can drive anywhere. 

      • LaughingAtYou

        I’m so glad you go immediately go on the attack without addressing my point. Google pulls support and you are happy?  I’m not bashing Android here, in fact, I love Android, but the fact is that Google has no vision here; they can’t do anything like Apple has done.  I know you’ll tell me how great your GNex is, but you made the assertion that it will do more than the iPhone and didn’t back it up.  The problem is, you’ll go on and on about specs and how it can be customized, but you’ll ignore what the competition is doing.  

        So tell me, what can you do with the GNex that the iPhone can’t?  Again, my message was explain my reason for switching – clear vision and support from the manufacturer is better than something that has a shelf life of what, not even 2 months?!  It’s funny that you compare the iPhone to a Ferrari – sounds like you are admitting that it’s a better device.  Enjoy the Corvette that doesn’t have a mechanic.  ;)

        • Anonymous

          LOL! I dont even own a Galaxy Nexus. I own a Rezound. So it is irrelevant to me either way. But the Nexus, even “unsupported”, is far superior to the iPhone. It actually does more. 

          What can the galaxy nexus do that the iPhone cant? Lets see: Widgets, Live wallpaper, Alternative markets (and installing apps without a market at all), real multi-tasking, it will display Flash content, removable battery, a 720p display, and it has unrestricted media. Lets start with those. 

          (My Rezound does all of that too, and in addition has SD expansion of at least 64gigs)

          • LaughingAtYou

            Yes.  Yes I do.

            Widgets: missed them for the first week
            Live wallpaper:  Really?  This is a reason to select Android? Are you 12?
            Alternative markets: Have them with a jailbroken iPhone
            Real multitasking: cpu hog and battery killer
            Flash: doomed
            Removable battery: I do miss this, but only because my Droid X wouldn’t last all day.  I have an external battery case for my iPhone
            720p display: still not as good as the iPhone 4 IMHO.
            Unrestricted media: really?  I don’t see a need for this if I get everything that I want.

            Look, the bottom line is that we have preferences.  I still own a Xoom and I use it.  I also have an iPad.  Apple’s products are integrated.  I can push everything between my Mac, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, etc. I had high hopes for Google, but they can’t execute.  I don’t have to buy an accessory (like a dock for my droid X) that can’t be used ever again or with any other phone.  I also know that my Ferrari will always have a mechanic, even if I drive it differently that you drive your Corvette.  If Android was as good as what I get with iOS and the integration that I get with other Apple products, I would never have changed.  So, each does something great.  It’s just that Apple’s products are better – for me.  No hard feelings.

          • Anonymous

            So your response to all the many things Android can do that iPhone cant is “well I dont use them anyway”? LOL! You talk about “preference” but Apple restricts your preference. The iPhone isnt better, it just happens to restrict the stuff that you personally dont care about. 

            Using your logic, my enV2 was superior to the iPhone. It made calls faster and more reliably. It never crashed on me even once and was far cheaper. (I guess if you never want to drive anywhere other than around your block on Tuesdays and Thursdays, the Ferrari is the better choice after all eh?)

          • LaughingAtYou

            You make absolutely no sense with your driving around the block comments, but you continue with your childish inferiority complex and your red herrings; I’m happy with my purchase.  If your point is you can do things that my phone can’t, you win. My point still remains that Android isn’t mature.  It has no clear direction.  It’s an operating system that any manufacturer can throw on their phones and they don’t have to support it.  I was hoping for the best from Android, but it failed (for me).  For you, it’s the greatest thing ever.  Based on all of your posts that you’ve written all over this story, I can see that you are a huge fan of Android and I wish you luck.  Bur, I know you’re still going to have to get the last word, so go!

          • Anonymous

            You make no sense with your childish “OMG the iPhone is so much better” comments. You havnt pointed out a sinlge thing the iPhone does that the Galaxy Nexus doesnt. 

          • LaughingAtYou

            HAHA.  go back to my first post. You’re so off topic, Jeffy.

    • Tim242

      You’re funny. The Nexus is very well supported. So how does it feel to be missing functionality such ad no browser downloads, and no way to manage files?

      • Anonymous

        Actually, there are tons of browsers in the App Store.  Atomic, Dolphin, Opera, etc.

        • Tim242

          That’s not what I meant. You cannot download files from browsers on iOS

          • LaughingAtYou

            Still not good a good enough of an argument for me to stay with Android.  It really came down to support and commitment.  It appears that only a development community will be supporting the GNex, which isn’t good enough for me.  It’s obviously fine for you, which is great, but I’m not bashing you.  

      • LaughingAtYou

        actually, I don’t miss it at all.  In fact, I prefer not to.  And this has nothing to do with my level of technical expertise, it’s just not something I need.

        • Tim242

          Hmmm then why are you browsing Android blogs?

          • LaughingAtYou

            Because I still own Android products and this is a great site.

          • Tim242

            But, iOS is so great…why still hold onto Android? Btw, the updates you brag about from apple only bring features that have been in Android. Them, the updates are half-assed. Look at iOS 5. Riddled with problems. Btw, did you see the report that iOS apps crash more often than Android apps?

          • LaughingAtYou

            Have you read the book “how to lie with statistics?”  I go off of my personal experience.  I run the same apps that I had on my Droid X.  They look better, run better, and don’t crash on my iPhone, and that’s all I really care about.  I couldn’t give a rat’s ass about some study that backs up something that hasn’t affected me or is irrelevant to me.  Meanwhile, my Droid X is sluggish, crashes constantly, has to be wiped and reset while my iPhone runs like a hot knife through butter.  

            Apple isn’t perfect, but let’s be honest, at least there is some vision here.  Half-assed updates are better than no updates. ;)

            Again, if there was clear direction from Google and the carriers, I would still be using Android.  But there’s a new phone out every other week and the carriers’ support sucks.  The current hot Android phone will be the flavor of the month, until next month’s phone.  And people will still be lining up to buy the iPhone.  

          • Tim242

            Again, those apple updates only include missing features, already found in Android. I’ve had several Android phones. Never had an issue with sluggishness. Saying something looks better on a smaller screen is silly. My Nexus screen outs your iPhone screen to shame. I work at att. I have to listen to iPhone issues all day long. You should check out their support forums. You say iPhones run buttery smooth, it has no UI. It lacks so much functionality, that it is only useful for gamers. My Nexus runs circles around the iPhone. I have tested it against a co-worker’s 4S. Your biggest flaw in logic, is comparing all Android phones to the Droid X.

          • LaughingAtYou

            No flaw in logic.  I specifically said that I based this off of my personal experience with my Droid X.  But since you brought it up, I shouldn’t have to buy a new phone to get rid of the sluggishness.  I don’t need a faster processor just to keep up with newer apps on the iPhone.  Android is flawed, plain and simple.  It needs more power to keep up with it’s inability to handle processes efficiently, and it’s well-documented. If Android was so great, it would be fluid, but it’s not.  Your answer is to buy another phone with a faster processor. Again, the bottom line is that Apple cares about the user experience and Google and the carriers don’t, and that was my main point.  You start in with problems that have nothing to do with my main reason for posting, which has made this fun.

            Anyway, I’m sorry you’re so insecure about your technology and can’t stand that someone has a negative opinion of Android.  You’re just confirming I made the best choice.  There’s a reason that the iPhone is the most popular phone on the planet.  Just sayin’

          • Tim242

            iPhone only sells in big numbers because it is the only phone with iOS. Android has many higj-end phones that split sales. My bf had the DX for over a year. It is not sluggish. Android handles processes very well. ICS is buttery smooth. So, if you shouldn’t have to buy a phone for a faster processor, explain the “upgrade” from iPhone 4 to the 4S. A dual core 800 MHz processor. That’s what the S in 3GS and 4S is for lol

          • LaughingAtYou

            but I didn’t upgrade.  In fact, they still sell the 3GS, which still runs the latest OS and can run the same apps. 

          • Anonymous

            Say whatever u want about your iPhone. U still don’t even have 4g. That’s been out for at least 2 yrs. Your phone is irrelevant, have fun with your herd of isheeple blindly buying the next apple gimmick.

          • LaughingAtYou

            Ok.  4G hasn’t beenout for 2 years, idiot.

          • solidworks

            ehh whatever, been out long enough and you still dont have it so your precious iphone is still…….irrelevant…..lol

          • LaughingAtYou

            You’re hilarious.  Tell that to the millions of others that buy it.  Then make an argument for why the GNex dropped it’s price 33%.  Why do they discount Android phones?  Because nobody wants to buy them!  They know that they’re overpriced.  The GNex will be $100 by the end of March. And they still won’t sell them. LOL

          • LaughingAtYou

            But, to get the new Android OS, you have to buy a new phone!  What a ripoff!

          • Tim242

            No you don’t. ICS updates are coming out very soon for current phones. BTW, there are 23 versions of iOS, 33 of Android. The 3GS cannot run all apps. No wifi hotspot, no siri…to name a few. You have to buy a new phone for siri…what a rip off. It’s,not even on the 4!

          • LaughingAtYou

            ok

          • Tim242

            OK is right. Make people buy a new phone for an App. That is what is ridiculous.

          • LaughingAtYou

            I’m still laughing at you idiots.  All you care about is specs.  I care about integration. You’re jealous, I get it.  Anyway, enjoy your fast phone and your LTE when it works.  I love trolling this site.  You’re as bad as the apple fanboys!  

          • Tim242

            Integration is important to you, you say? What does apple integrate? Android integrates Gmail, Maps, Navigation, Google Voice, YouTube, and more. As far as iPhone naming, numbering, let me break that down to you. There was no iPhone 2 or 3. The 2nd iPhone was named 3G, for the art 3G bands it added. The 3rd iPhone was the 3GS, for 3G data plus faster processor. The 4th iPhone was the iPhone 4, because it was the 4th iPhone….go figure. The 5th iPhone was the 4S, for faster processor. If they name the next version by version number, like they did the 4, it would be iPhone 6, since it will be the 6th iPhone. There would be no reason to CA it the 5…it isn’t the 5th version, and it won’t have non-existent 5G. The only thing you’ve gotten right so far, is identifying yourself as a troll.

          • LaughingAtYou

            Yep, and it’s so much fun!  Enjoyed it very much!  Enjoy the weekend in, ahem, Little Rock!  HAHAHA!

          • Tim242

            Little Rock is awesome! You should come visit sometime. I’all take you to the gay club with me.

          • LaughingAtYou

            I’m not afraid of a gay club at all.  I’m not gay, but gay people are fun!  Honestly, Tim, it’s been fun.  Have a good weekend.

          • Tim242

            Haha you too! : )

          • LaughingAtYou

            but I don’town the 4.  Whocares?!  

          • LaughingAtYou

            However you want to paint the picture, Apple supports its users and its products.  When your GNex is on eBay in 3 months because you realize it needs a faster processor or that you want a better camera, or finally find out that it’s not the latest and greatest, I’ll still be using my iPhone happily.

          • Tim242

            My gnex has a dual core 1.2 MHz processor. If you had the 4S, you’d only have 800 MHz dual core. My phone will not be on eBay. I bought a phone that fits my needs. I am guessing you don’t even have a 4S, since you just say “iPhone.” You’re stuck on the 4 for another year haha. You’re not even using dual core. STFU boy

          • LaughingAtYou

            actually, I do have the 4S.  Sorry.  Oh, and congrats on your penis enlargement!!

          • Tim242

            Even if you really do have the 4S, you’re at 800 MHz, I’m at 1.2 GHz. The Nexus outperforms the 4S in every way. Every review shows this. Not to mention, you don’t have LTE. When the iPhone 6 comes out later this year with LTE, you’ll only be a year into contract. Poor you.

          • LaughingAtYou

            Ok, Timmy, it’s beenfun playing with you. I’m glad you have the phone with the best specs.  I’m glad you feel superior.  I have two lines, so I upgrade everyyear.And,my iPhone will be worth much morethan that piece of plastic you bought.  HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!  DB

          • Tim242

            This piece of plastic survives drops, without a case. Your piece of glass does not. People call in every day demanding we replace their broken iPhones. What a bunch of idiots.

          • LaughingAtYou

            You’re just proving my point- I don’t HAVE to upgrade from my 4S, but I will when the 5 comes out.  Why?  Because I want to, not because I have to. 

          • Tim242

            There won’t be a five. The 4S was the 5th version.

          • LaughingAtYou

            using your logic, therewouldn’t have beena 4.  3, 3GS,4, 4S…whatcomes next,Einstein?  

          • LaughingAtYou

            You’re under contract for two years with a phone that won’t be supported.  Good luck with that!  HAHA!!  And, when you try to sell it, you’ll be stuck with something nobody wants and all of the accessories that you bought for it.  Meanwhile, people will pay top dollar for my iPhone 4s when the next one comes out and Apple STILL sells the iPhone 3GS.  Facts is facts, dude!  

            This has been fun.  

          • Tim242

            My phone will get updates str8 from Google for years to come. Here’s the proof. http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/2/3/2769480/verizon-galaxy-nexus-removed-from-googles-developer-support-pages
            The 3GS is not still sold, it is given away for free. That is why att “sold” so many more iPhones than Verizon. Verizon doesn’t have the FreeGS.

          • LaughingAtYou

            It’s free, but people still want it over an Android phone with better specs.  What does that say?

          • LaughingAtYou

            getting you riled up is fun, Timmy.

      • LaughingAtYou

        How do you feel about being abandoned?  At least Apple doesn’t abandon their users the way the carriers do when a new phone comes out.  I got sick of seeing the way carriers treat Android users when there are so many phones to support – they’re all about selling phones, not supporting the users.  Complete opposite of Apple.  

    • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

      Apple supports their products. My favorite part was the e-mail response that Jobs sent out regarding antenna gate. “hold it with the other hand”

      • Anonymous

        LOL! Problem solved. 

      • Anonymous

        I dont think Apple is EVER gonna escape that one…. That will forever be a part of Apple lore…

        …you’re holding it wrong….lol.

    • Anonymous

      oh look another apple troll

  • http://twitter.com/pof Pau Oliva

    Official update from Dan Morrill on the issue: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/android-contrib/phz3S5ZdveU

  • Jordan

    Man that sucks for us RAZR guys too right?

    • shdowman

      No, it sucked for you before this…

  • http://twitter.com/tyslogcon Tyson Conrad

    If this is true, I am done with Google, Verizon, and Samsung forever.  I have wanted to try Windows phone…this gives me reason.  And my incoming tax return will make it very easy to drop my Verizon contract like a bad habit…

  • rocketdaddy

    Not Calm

  • Anonymous

    Can’t be about Google Wallet….Nexus S 4G…..

  • shdowman

    KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Anonymous

      lol!!! I just looked at the recent Star Trek with the younger versions.

  • Fu

    Dear Google/Verizon: You Suck ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Zonin/719023272 Corey Zonin

    Going to the pitchfork store now then making a stop at the torch store on the way home. If anyone needs anything let me know. 

    • Anonymous

      Please pick up some tar, some feathers, and a rusty hacksaw too. Thanks!

    • Anonymous

      also a few brown paper bags and a couple of dogs please! thanks in advance

  • Anonymous

    #OCCUPYVZW – Verizon has the opposite of the ‘Midas Touch’; where is the http://www.BoycottVerizon.com website already! *sigh*

  • Anonymous

    I’m sorry, but update 3 makes no sense to me.  How is it okay to “drop support” for a phone simply to streamline the amount of said supported devices?  Wouldn’t it make more sense to drop support for older phones, as they are most likely unable to run the newest software?

    • http://profiles.google.com/adamtruelove Adam Truelove

      They dropped developer support.  Which means they will no longer publish the source code and flash files for the LTE version of the phone anymore.  As far as we know this has nothing to do with actually software support of the phone.  We should still get timely Android software updates from Google.

      • Anonymous

        Voice of Reason FTW

      • Anonymous

        So then the question becomes…who is going to publish the source code?  I believe that’s one of the requirements of using android, is it not?

        It still feels like, as someone who was happy to have a developer-friendly device, I’ve been short-changed.  Whether it’s a big deal to the community at large or not, this is still something that was a feature of the phone at purchase and is not any longer.

  • Mtaylor924

    I remember reading somewhere recently that Google and Qualcomm were butting heads over something.  As the only maker of CDMA chipsets, perhaps Qualcomm is ultimately the culprit here?  Maybe Google had to take down the support for all CDMA phones until their dispute gets resolved?

  • http://www.vinsonimages.com yamaha83

    im going to flip if i got this phone for nothing!!

  • Eazy

    Everyone is missing the point …its Google dropping us the loyal android customers like a bad habit…yes we have the best devs but that doesn’t negate the fact that if this is indeed true it is a blatant sign of disrespect on Google’s part…for shame Google is supposed to be the anti-apple not join its forces

  • Kutter Ross

    I know this will send you guys in a flury, but there is no basis for a lawsuit. Think about it. Verizon and Samsung HAVE to support the phone for the duration of its warranty so thats covered. They didn’t change the stock rom to anything but ICS so it is STILL a Google Experience device. You still have all the developers that have and support the device. Additionally this comes down to Google. It is in their discretion if they want to actually support the device. If they don’t want to change Google Wallet to work securely over Verizon’s network who should you be angry at? Verizon for thinking of the security of your data on its network or for Google to not make the app secure over Verizon’s network?

    I will never own a Samsung phone, and currently own a Droid Razr. Moto and HTC will be my only choices when it comes to phones. I go for quality and design, and Samsung with the Nexus has been anything but.

    • Anonymous

      From a carrier’s perspective, as long as a phone does not cause problems on its network and follows the minimum e-911 protocols etc, then “supporting” a phone for the duration of its warranty means doing nothing more than keeping employees trained, CellBrite update, and keeping a pile of new batteries, battery doors, and refurb devices in stock.  Think of some DOA past phones like the LG Ally or the Devour or Droid Eris.  Those phones never saw much (if anything ) in the way of OS update love but you can still probably get refurbs if your phone is still under warranty coverage. 

      I agree 110% on never owning a Samsung phone.  If the GSII had been available at launch on VZW I would probably have passed due to its low resolution screen and their horrible track record for updates.  i waited months and months and never saw a single official update for my AT&T Galaxy Tab last year. Never again, Samsung!   I hope the honor of Nexus equipment maker is bestowed on Motorola exclusively.  Their hardware has ALWAYS been the best no matter what . With Google providing the software and Jha gone, Moto will be able to craft a Nexus device like none other! 

  • http://twitter.com/lancec50 Lance Cokel

    The GSM Nexus is the only true open and unlocked phone. You can use it on every single GSM carrier in the world. The LTE Nexus is locked to only work with VZW. Yeah you will be able to flash it to work on different CDMA carriers but that is not the same as popping in a new SIM and going about  your business.  Glad I dropped VZW. 

    • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

      You can’t flash it either. There’s nowhere to flash.

  • Panthersmb921

    This isn’t right. Do Nexus users still get timely updates or will they be at the mercy of verizon? Google needs to start flexing some muscle or making a statement, because this is in no way ok. 

    • http://profiles.google.com/adamtruelove Adam Truelove

      This just means they’ve dropped developer support, not update support.

      • Anonymous

        When they dropped developer support for the G1 and Nexus One they also stopped pushing updates to those phones.  So right now it can go either way.  LTE users may need to rely on Verizon for updates.

    • Gnexus

      I think this is the muscle they are flexing, just got good for us…

  • Jac_White

    All of you complaining about returning/switching to apple……..What will that buy you exactly?   What would you then have on another device you don’t still have now on your Nexus?

  • http://twitter.com/geoffcalver Geoff Calver

    I plan on fighting Verizon to refund my phone purchase given that they lied to me.

    • Tim242

      How exactly did they lie to you? You got a great phone that will get updates fast. What are you missing?

      • http://twitter.com/geoffcalver Geoff Calver

        It’s not a pure Google phone with developer support.

        The reason you get this phone isn’t for official updates from Google (although that’s nice). It’s for the ability to have access to source files, radios etc. to develop the heck out of it. There’s a reason why there are literally dozens of ROMs already. 

        They promised something – developer support and a pure Google experience – and they’ve removed half that experience. Is the phone different now? No. But is it what I paid for? No. 

        Without that developer support, there isn’t the same community that provides tons of customization options for the phone.

        Tell me how they didn’t lie to me by saying it was a Google developer phone?

        • shdowman

          Amen

        • Tim242

          First of all, you are full of $hit. Verizon sold this phone as a stock Android device, not for rooting and custom roms. The last thing they want, is you to root. That’s why by unlocking the bootloader, you void your warranty. That being said, NOTHING IS CHANGING. Custom roms are nit going away, Google updates aren’t going away. You need to know what you are talking about, before being such a drama queen.

          • Anonymous

            Google updates may go away.  Look at what happened with the G1 and Nexus One when Google stopped developer support for it.

          • Tim242

            Google says they are still going to support updates to all Nexus phones. http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/2/3/2769480/verizon-galaxy-nexus-removed-from-googles-developer-support-pages

          • Anonymous

            Exactly. I dont think Verizon ever advertized the G Nex as a developer phone.

            If they did….they better had it separated from the other phones or clearly marked as developer phone.

            Just checking official websites… neither Google, Verizon or Samsung advertizes it as a developer phone. We KNOW it is based on past experience and knowing the ins n out of Android. Maybe Google linked it to developer at some event. But online it isnt mentioned being a developer phone.

            The Nexus One is the ONLY Nexus phone thats actually linked to developers online at Google website, Nexus S is listed as co developed by Google and Samsung at Google website. G Nex isnt listed as either of the 2.

            I’m talking about these pages:

            http://www.google.com/phone/detail/nexus-s

            http://www.google.com/nexus/#/index

            http://www.google.com/phone/detail/nexus-one

            Maybe if digging thru Google’s website it will be a different story…but those first pages tell another story.

  • Eazy

    If this is true I’m switching to the dark side…apple here I come

    • http://profiles.google.com/adamtruelove Adam Truelove

      Oh yeah, so the iPhone has developer support huh?  When did that happen?

      • Eazy

        Lol u have never owner an iPhone have apparently not …its OK ur ignorant…they have tons of games which means that they must have lots of developer support they have the cydia store n on n on

        • Eazy

          Damn autocorrect

        • http://profiles.google.com/adamtruelove Adam Truelove

          I’m not talking about app developer support, I’m talking about open source, direct from Apple, OS dev support.  That does not exist for the iPhone.

          • Eazy

            Nvm its like trying to reason with a brick wall…

    • Tim242

      LoL that’s hilarious. I played with a friend’s iPhone for all of 2 minutes. It was awful. I couldn’t download anything from the browser, and there is no way to manage files.

  • Chad Baker

    So can we all demand VZW to refund or replace our phones if there is no longer going to be LTE/CDMA support?

    • Tim242

      It is still supported by Google and Verizon for updates. This is support as a dev phone. Comprehension is key. Nothing will change.

  • Paul Harper

    Glad im still in my 30 day window this baby just might be going back!

    • Tim242

      LoL why? Nothing is changing. You jump to conclusions before understanding what you have read.

  • http://twitter.com/geoffcalver Geoff Calver

    I’m rooted, so this most likely won’t affect my use of the phone, but nonetheless this is infuriating.

    The reason people bought this phone was because it was a Nexus device. Now it’s just an unlocked Samsung device. It’s absolutely infuriating that they can sell us a device as one thing and then turn around and remove the KEY functionality of the phone 2 months later. Absurd.

    • Tim242

      WTF are you talking about? It is still a Nexus. You people need to get educated before you spew BS.

  • Anonymous

    It’s probably nothing

  • Andrew Elliott

    Why do I always have this kind of luck?  Does Verizon hate me? Or is it Google?  How is this possible?  I thought I had a Nexus!

    • Tim242

      You do. Don’t fall into the path of the drama queens. Nothing is changing.

  • Jscofi

    My nexus vibrate notification for txts doesn’t work anymore. Just stopped one day. Yes I tried all of the settings.
    That’s all.

    • Kyle

      did you try the vibrate settings in the MMS app?

  • Anonymous

    We can all blame this on Verizon.

    • Tim242

      Blame what exactly? Nothing is changing. You don’t even know what this article means. Dd you notice the Nesus S for Sprint missing?

  • http://twitter.com/Belatukadro Justtyn Hutcheson

    For those saying this is a mistake, its not real, they’re just updating, etc. please look again.
    The site specifically states that “No CDMA devices are supported”, and the factory images are “for reference only”.  That is absolutely clear intent, people, use your brains and quit being in denial.
    What does this mean for updates?  Nobody knows at the moment, but you absolutely should be concerned.

  • Anonymous

    Pretty sure this is a fluke.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=25001493 Hank Godwin

      I don’t think you know what fluke means.  This being a fluke does not make any sense.

      • Anonymous

        I know what fluke means.  I guess we’ll just have to wait for this to develop and see where it goes.

        • http://profiles.google.com/adamtruelove Adam Truelove

          The definitely of the work “fluke” doesn’t fit this situation at all.  I think you mean something like “misunderstanding” or “misinterpretation”.

          • Anonymous

            Fluke:  an accident or chance happening.
            As in, when I first read it, without reading the link page I thought someone accidentally goofed and removed those devices from the page.

      • Anonymous

        Okay I read the whole thing in the Building page and I see what you mean.

  • http://emuneee.com Evan

    *sigh*

  • Mike McCrary

    Here’s a good question, why is everybody automatically attacking Verizon for this, IF there is anything to even attack them over? How do we know this wasn’t Google’s doing?

    The Sprint Nexus S 4G was also removed in the same way. Did Verizon remove that too?

    I would hang on for an official response from Google before you guys throw Verizon under the bus. Chill out.

    Just my 2 cents.

    • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

      It probably is Google’s doing. And again, we don’t know what it means. It could mean absolutely nothing. It just looks bad, right now, especially since Google does things like this and usually never makes a statement about them until after the fact.

      • Anonymous

        How does it look bad? You aren’t being objective about the situation. You reported it as being bad news instead of looking at it as them potentially pulling the information to modify it. It only looks bad if you make it so.

        • Christian

          A lot of people are saying this…but if you’re pulling information to edit it, I don’t see why they would tell us that CDMA devices are no longer supported :P

          • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

            maybe theres some kind of Macro that if CDMA devices are taken down, they automatically gets thrown up, to cover their asses.

          • http://twitter.com/Belatukadro Justtyn Hutcheson

            I would think a default of “CDMA support is currently not available, please return later” would be more prudent.

      • Gnexus

        Agree, however Verizon would be the one causing Google to do this.. We need to speak out against Verizon

        • http://www.facebook.com/treswaters Tres Nugget Waters

          How could Verizon stop Google from supporting a Sprint device? Makes 0 sense. It’s obviously not Verizon, as much as I love to hate them.

          • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

            Sprint may be making demands on Google too.

    • Anonymous

      Thank you for the voice of reason in all of this.

  • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

    As long as CM9 is as good as I believe it will be, I don’t really care. I have every intention of running that and have since day one.

  • Christian

    I don’t see how it would have anything to do with Google Wallet since the Nexus S 4G got taken down also. And I was also thinking about the 4.0.3 update…weren’t we supposed to see it at least a month ago? Maybe something has been going on behind the scenes…it is strange and hopefully some kind of mistake…

  • Anonymous

    Yes, dev community is fantastic for this phones.

    But horrible news because this means that devs can’t use the proprietary drivers. That’s the item of most concern for me. 

  • Steve

    If its the case I want to return it for a refund / exchange

  • Anonymous

    That would suck pretty bad. I would hope that Google wouldn’t do something like this just because of Google Wallet, but who knows?

  • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

    People actually beleive this?? At least wait for an official statement websites twnd to be easily manipulated

  • burnsra
  • Charlie

    Ever since Engadget posted this in the last line of their Verizon Galaxy Nexus review, I’ve always kind of agreed. This is Verizon after all. Makes sense now.

    “Oh, and does it truly deserve to wear the Nexus name? No, not quite, but we’re not going to let ourselves get too worked up about that.”

  • http://profiles.google.com/adamtruelove Adam Truelove

    I hope you all like 4.0.2 cause that’s the last update we’ll see on Verizon.  ;)

  • Scott

    The 4.0.3 update has been eerily quiet.

  • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

    LOl this is probably not true. I saw one of the pages that someone showed, that it was possibly taken down for the update to 4.0.3. same thing happened with the Xoom. I doubt they would do this with a device known for Google Updates. Remember, these sites don’t always know everything. Sometimes these sites just want attention.

    https://plus.google.com/117699316330160899320/posts/27Ui3VSAqg5#117699316330160899320/posts/27Ui3VSAqg5

  • http://www.twitter.com/helmes/ Henry

    This is a travesty 

  • Vaporware

    Sorry but anyone that bought a Verizon device ( whether it is Nexus branded or not ) and thought that updates would be like other Nexus devices is a fool. Take a look at the Xoom for example. ICS for the wifi Xoom came out weeks ago and the Verizon version hasn’t even had a sniff of ICS yet. Many of us tried to tell you this would happen and we were mocked. Karma perhaps? Either way I hope for all Nexus buyers that the updates aren’t left to Samsung because if the are, God help you all.

    • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

      What you mean the xoom 4g will get it in the next couple weeks and at least thw nwxus will get updatws months before you all do even if its not considered a developer phone

  • Brandon

    Time to chew out Verizon and return the phone. Not signing up for a Verizon experience device.

    • Tim242

      I hope you are not as stupid as you come across.

  • Anonymous

    Well according to DL, Google is leaving the business! Oh my god people, freak out time!

  • Anonymous

    So, the phone was sold as a Google phone. A few months later, this one reason that I bought the device is shown to be false. Well I’m at a loss here.

    • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

      Because the phone will still get updates from Google, most likely

      • Anonymous

         So you don’t believe this article?

        • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

          nope.

          • Anonymous

             I sure hope you’re right!

          • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

            Apparently, this same thing happened to the Xoom, and it was just reference to the updates being modified, not terminating support.

        • Tim242

          THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH UPDATES. People need to know what they are commenting on, before commenting. This BS just causes the drama queens to flare up. It’s not good for your heart.

    • xyzlene

      perhaps that is a substantail reason.. but at the same time it does not have the google image on our back plate.. i thought that was suspect to begin with but i TRUSTED verizon and google. If this nonsense is true im going to sell this phone with all the accessories, and go back to my droid x…. will never purchase any android device again out of principle.. and i thought apple users got the short end of the stick.. will be chexking xda shortly to see what is going on there….

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000870625421 Ken Klucina

    WTF