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Eric Schmidt on Apple-HTC Patent Situation: “I’m not too worried about this.”

I’m sure that many of you have been following along with Apple’s insistant pursuit of innovation destruction through a series of patent lawsuits against companies like HTC and Samsung.  Since they have clearly started falling behind the world that is Android in the innovation department (just look at iOS5), they have decided that they will take everyone to court.  While they may have billions of dollars in the bank to do such a thing, Android and the phone manufacturers that use it now have Google on their side to help out.

Google executive chairman Eric Schmidt told press in Tokyo today that they plan to aide HTC, so that they don’t “lose.”

“We have seen an explosion of Android devices entering the market and, because of our successes, competitors are responding with lawsuits as they cannot respond through innovations,” he said. “I’m not too worried about this.”

You’ve got to feel a little better about this situation now that Google has stepped up to the plate to help out its partners, right?  There is no telling how long it could take for all of this to shake out, but from everything I’ve read over the last few days, there are a lot of torn opinions on the HTC-Apple situation.  Most of the Apple analysts are assuring everyone that HTC is finished and that their products will be blocked from being imported, but there are plenty that would firmly disagree with that take.

Personally, I’d be embarrassed if I was an Apple employee.  I fully understand that companies aren’t in the “but we need lots of good competitors!” business and are instead in the “we’d be better off without you so that we can rake in the cash” business.  But taking every single one of them to court because it seems like you can no longer keep up is just pathetic. /fanboy.

Sound off!

Via:  CNET

Cheers @chasm31!

  • RW-1

    Sad saber rattling.  Poor form Apple.

    Looks like Stevie can dish it out, though I wouldn’t call IOS5 innovative, but can’t take it.

    Android is not IOS, period.

    I’m sure MS could join the fray for a whole lot more in patents that are ridiculous, they already have been squeezing a few manufacturers for $$$ on it. In fact that would be fun to watch them go after Apple for those infringements.

    Someone must hold the patent on breathing in air and converting it to O2, please get Stevie to C&D on copying it now ….

  • Anonymous

    … apple is now more like “the firm” than a real tech company, sad about taht, but true … apple stinks.

    • Mike

      Yeah, to bad you missed the boat on the stock price increase dipwad. I’ll be the guy throwing money at you when you’re standing at an intersection with a sign in your hand.

  • http://silkyjay.com John Cantrell

    lol @forstall

  • Jdevore64

    Just to remind everyone or if you have not seen this before…..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU

  • theycopiedeverything

    I hear iOS is going to have CUT & PASTE – wow!

  • BostonB

    It will take 4 years for a lawsuit of this magnitude to reach the end. Apple and Google both have amazing lawyers. Both companies will just lose a shit ton of money which will affect Apple more in the long run. Google main money maker is in Advertising and they have little costs associated with that product. No matter what the result in 4 years the phones and operating systems Apple is suing over will no longer be used, we all will have upgraded and then Apple will sue about those… and so on and so forth. Lawsuits take to much time and results are too slow. Even if Google lost they have shit loads of money and will not be stopped. I doubt they lose though. Apple has the burden of proof and in this world in is alot harder to argue software.

  • Anonymous

    I just bought a thunderbolt and was surprised to find out that in some small but important ways, outside of lack of multitasking which is a moot point now and the cloud (soon to be a moot point), iOS 3 which I had on my previous phone the 3g was more elegant and streamlined. Another interesting point is that transferring music is best done by chaining HTC sync and iTunes (which I used to hate). There might be something I am missing but once iOS5 comes out the ball will be in Android’s court. In truth, Android’s victory was preordained but not because it was a better OS. It has more to do with it being free, and relatively open as opposed to Apple’s 4th reich.     

  • WormDoes

    Apple lovers-Your product sucks and at this point it’s never going to catch Android in development or in popularity. You had your time, but now it’s over.

    • FeelzGr8t

      What planet do you live in? Go make out with one of your androids for crying out loud.

      • Tesseract 3

        You are the ones trolling our website. You go make out with one of your i*ones. 

        • FeelzGr8t

          Call it whatever you want, but I’m just keeping up with all the latest news regarding technology and for being a former Droid owner. Grow up you imbecile, smartphones DOES NOT define you!

          • Tesseract 3

            It only defines you if you let it define you. With the way you are acting, you are letting your current choice of phone define you. You’re stupid comments are making you look like you define yourself by your phone, just as you accuse others of doing. Stop trolling a Droid message board and go talk to a group of apple fans who agree with you. 

          • Cizzlen

            Gottem

    • Anonymous

      True Story!!

    • Mike

      Android is an operating system, copied for profit. Schmidt will die slowly as the google ship slips into oblivion.

  • Apple Rules. Face It.
  • http://twitter.com/grilmasterweber Kurt Weber

    Someone is a sour apple..

  • Michael

    Basically
    Google purchased startup Android in 2005. In 2006 Schmidt joined the
    Apple Board of Directors and was thus, very privy to the development and
    launch of the iPhone in 2007. At the same time, Google was furthering
    development of Android. After iPhone launched out of secrecy in 2007,
    Google launched Android, but now instead of having the Blackberry
    copying look-and-feel, it became a replica of the iPhone. They continued
    to work on Android, copying many of iPhone core features.

    Finally in 2009, Schmidt “resigned” the board of directors, but Steve
    Jobs was very upset at the fact that Google decided to enter their
    market when they never thought twice about entering the search market.

    So what Schmidt did was betray trust and non-disclosures in creating Android by copying Apple’s years of research in the field.

    • Tesseract 3

      That was so much BS, I think you need to go outside and quit your conspiracy theories. 

      • Anonymous

        Yeah he needs to be on the Jesse Ventura Show!!!

    • TheCastleGuard

      umm Did the aliens help him too?  Maybe the Loch Ness Monster, or even Bigfoot………. Yea that is about as ridiculous as your post sounded too.  

      • Mike

        I saw bigfoot hammering yo mama dude.

  • http://twitter.com/marsgrafx MARS GRAF-X

    WOW this is really starting to look like Star Wars Episode..  (Empire Strikes Back).. ?

  • Mickey

    Too funny!

    Google’s Android copies the iPhone at a wholesale level and then says it’s Apple that doesn’t innovate?

    • Custom Colonel

      LOL exactly.  Android is for all intents and purposes an iOS clone, but they’re calling Apple kettle black.  Awesome.

      • WormDoes

        I’m sure there’s Apple forums you can hang out in instead of DROID-Life

        • Custom Colonel

          I’m a part of Apple forums too, thanks :)

          • Anonymous

            Stop Being A Douche Bag!!

  • WormDoes

    If I were Eric Schmidt I wouldn’t be worried either. This is the end of Apple as we know it.

    • Custom Colonel

      LOL…what an idiot.

      • WormDoes

        After the iPhone 5 tanks come back and tell me how much of an idiot I am

        • Custom Colonel

          LOL!  The iPhone 3Gs is still outselling individual high end android phones, and you’re telling me the iPhone 5 is going to tank?  You’re more of an idiot then I could ever have imagined.

          • Tesseract 3

            Scared you’re iphone may not ever be top dog again? Cry me a river. 

          • Anonymous

            Iphone 3Gs is outselling what high end android phones? Iphone 5 isn’t going to be crap but what you already have in the iphone 4!! A minor revision of hardware with a new app and the stolen features for the dinosaur iOS 5. Android is doing so well EVEN STEVE JOBS WANTS THE IPHONE TO LOOK LIKE IT..

    • http://www.facebook.com/jonathanf Jonathan Fingas

      Really?  Really?  Seeing as how Apple just won a patent ruling, I’m pretty sure Apple’s holding its own.  Especially with growth bouncing back in the US.

      • EC8CH

        Win some….. Lose some ;-)

      • WormDoes

        They aren’t doing ANYTHING new. Like someone said below you can’t keep polishing the same turd and calling it new. Doesn’t cut it nowadays 

      • Anonymous

        Apple ain’t bouncing nothing but that same ball from 2007! They just found ways to polish the iOS and make the ipod bigger!!! Apple’s season is up everyone see’s it but you and granddaddy Jobs!!

  • D-roid

    i think google should just stop allowing iCrap devices to use Google branded services; including gmail and voice.    that would show them and these lawsuits would be dropped.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jonathanf Jonathan Fingas

      Google is already under investigation for antitrust issues in the US.  That would just guarantee federal punishment and get Apple more of what it wants.

      • EC8CH

        I think the Nortel deal is going to put some other companies under antitrust investigation as well.

    • WormDoes

      I think that’s the best idea I’ve heard in weeks.

    • Anonymous

      Exactly that will really hurt apple to the core. Because without google maps iOS is terrible navigating and the gmail app is better than the regular email app that they own. I didn’t even go into Voice and all the other ones!!

  • Anonymous

    Apple can suck a fat one!! This aint 2007 anymore and people are more technology inclined now. They may have started something with the iphone but if you keep polishing the same iOS with minimum features each year and throw in a new app, people are going to go towards better competition!!! Don’t get mad a competition if it’s better than you, just innovate something better that the people want! Of wait they lost all their innovation with the ipod. lol

    Ipad,iphone, and ipod touch is the same old crap. Same old polished dinosaur iOS same old features. We still have yet to see what the ipad can do besides run a app or play a game. You have all that screen space and you can’t even customize it how you want. What a waste. If it wasn’t for apps, iOS would be non existent. iOS is a glorified app launcher, no customization besides changing a background and moving around apps. No wonder people are getting tired of it and no wonder even apple has to copy off of Android just to stay relevant!!!

  • Custom Colonel

    What do you expect Schmidt to say?  “I’m terrified!!! Run!!!”…this is all PR…Schmidt is worried just as HTC is.  Overturning a judge’s ruling doesn’t just happen.  It’s a long uphill battle for Android

  • http://twitter.com/kgballa1 Giscard

    If Apple didnt basically steal there radio design, basically the phone part of iPhone, from Nokia - http://goo.gl/JHVu2 and Motorola - http://goo.gl/20bc (if anyone thinks that Apple partnered with moto on the rokr for any other reason then stealing IP they’re crazy) they would still be selling iPod’s AND THATS A FACT!!!!!!

  • d-roids

    besides even if they ban HTC from importing, people are always gonna find way around it. apple cant win.

    • Custom Colonel

      LOL…this wins the post for stupidest of the year.  Now you’re saying there’s going to be this underground black market for HTC android phones in the US?? LOL

  • d-roids

    even if i was the owner of a multi billion dollar company, if google stepped in id back off. Jobs never ceases to impress me on how far is head is up his a$$

    • Custom Colonel

      Wow I hope you never own your own business, cuz you sound like a pansy.

    • Custom Colonel

      Wow I hope you never own your own business, cuz you sound like a pansy.

  • Anonymous

    You have heard it first from Schmidt, He ain’t worried about it!!!! Who do apple think they are? If anyone thinks for  one minute that based on a lawsuit like this that Htc products will be banned are out of their minds!! It’s to much money to be mad and even apple can’t stop that. It’s funny how everyone is saying the same thing about how apple needs to compete in innovation which is true. It’s just sad that apple is taking it this far and copying the competition they deemed as copycats for their own iOS 5. That is a real low ball move on apple’s part. I won’t put my hard earned money in a  company like that!!

  • http://twitter.com/labratNJ Labrat

    Everyone hold your breath….Jobs wants to patent air

    • The Observer

      He’d better hurry, because he won’t be breathing it much longer. Jobs is going to join the Choir Invisible in the next year or two.

      • Soldierjim

        Awesome comment!!!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/jonathanf Jonathan Fingas

    Hey Eric: just because you say you didn’t do anything wrong doesn’t make it so.  The ITC thinks HTC (or more specifically Google) was close enough to have violated patents.  And Google can’t guarantee HTC will escape in an appeal.

    I agree patents can be generic and that Apple shouldn’t really have sued in the first place, but Apple’s patents in this case aren’t THAT generic. Data detectors circa 1996?  Yes, that was a unique thing at the time.

  • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

    I agree with schmidt this is not a big deal just brush your shoulders

  • whitey bulger

    “If crApple knew how to invent Android…then they would have INVENTED ANDROID.”

  • http://twitter.com/lpklemmer Larry Klemmer

    Sorry I already patented all metal/plastic/glass objects that have microphones. WIN! 

    …wait?

  • Sims1019

    It’s still funny though, “lawsuits instead of innovation” but yet if HTC had innovation they wouldn’t be getting sued.

    • Anonymous

      If whatever they did innovate and it sold really well, then money blood hounds would still send in the lawyers.  What have they got to loose?  Especially if they fear losing big money to an innovative company.

  • http://profiles.google.com/rhuang86 Richard Huang

    I imagined a phone that had a touch screen, make phone calls, have GPS nav, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, 2 Cameras with a flash, etc. 10 years ago…looks like its time to sue Apple for stealing my idea.  :P

  • EC8CH

    Because of these stupid lawsuits MILLIONS of dollars are going to be paid to lawyers instead of that money going to develop cool shit for me to buy, and for that I say:

    PISS OFF APPLE.  Your patents are a joke.

    BTW… how come your chief patent lawyer is gone?  Must be hard to work day after day trying to intimidating everyone with BS patents.

    • TheAndroid1

      Apple created the patent, like it or not it is now their property.  If somebody wants to use it, they have to pay apple, that’s how the system works.  A world where everybody could copy everything would lead to no innovation.  In your words there would be no “cool shit for me to buy.”

      • EC8CH

        Just because Apple was granted a patent that doesn’t mean the patent claims will hold up in court when they’re challenged.  Apple has so many patents that are so general and flimsy it will not be difficult to challenge them based on prior art or other grounds.

        Our patent system was meant to encourage innovation by giving individuals and companies incentive to invest into research and development.  However in it’s current state, our patent system serves to line the pockets of lawyers and help large corporations intimidate and squash smaller competitors with their huge legal departments.

        Case in point is the cartel of companies that purchased the Nortel patent portfolio not to use them for their own new innovative products, but in an attempt to sue and squash their competition. This was not the purpose of the patent system as envisioned by Thomas Jefferson and his concern of the patent system has come true as evident by those who act in a manner similar to apple:

        “abuse of frivolous patents is likely to cause more inconvenience than is countervail by those really useful.”

        • TheAndroid1

          And if they don’t hold up, then companies can use them.  Companies can’t just use them because they seem flimsy and might not hold up.  You want a change in the patent system, and you can’t blame apple for that.

          • EC8CH

            The problem is the patent system. Patents are awarded with little review, it is then up to the courts to determine would should have been done in the first place before the patent was granted, ie it’s validity.  It’s a system that pays lawyers and unfairly intimidates smaller competitors.

            These are the exact same concerns that were present at the founding of the US patent system, and thanks to the almost automatic approval process thousands of flimsy parents have been produced making these concerns a reality.

          • Custom Colonel

            And the courts determined that there was a patent violation.  Overturning it is not going to be easy.  Eric Schmidt says “i’m not worried” and all the android lemmings are getting all excited, not realizing that he’s just saying this stuff for PR.  Trust me, he’s worried.

          • TheAndroid1

            I agree, I just get tired of people blaming companies like Apple because of the flaws in the patent system.

          • EC8CH

            The companies are just taking advantage of a system that is clearly broken.

          • Tesseract 3

            No. How it works is companies just go ahead and use it and challenge it later. And I can assure you Apple has gone ahead and used stuff with flimsy patents and challenged it later themselves. The reason is because no one would ever make new products. These patents are so general and so easy to destroy in court, but even so challenging a patent takes time, time that could be spent making new products. Using technology that has existed for a long time but someone managed to get a silly patent for. You can’t just sit around waiting for it to finally work it’s way through the court system. You start using, it gets challenged by the company, you show their patent is BS and go on with your lives. If you lose, you might lose some money and have to pay some back-fees, but at least you didn’t sit around waiting, twiddling your thumbs. Don’t be naive, every company including apple, this is standard industry practice. Stop being an apple fanboy, and think about what you are saying. I am not saying Google or any other company is lily white, these sorts of practices are industry standard among all big companies. 

      • Anonymous

        Your fearless leader granddaddy Jobs is the King of Thieves. He started his own company stealing from Xerox and everyone else. Remember the famous quote he quoted about stealing? Don’t be a hypercrite!!!

        • TheAndroid1

          He should have licensed too, I never said that Apple was innocent.  However, their guilt does not give other companies the right to steal back.

          (My fearless leader granddaddy Jobs?  I have owned 2 droids, the droid x, and now the thunderbolt.  I bought an iPhone 4 but then traded it for the thunderbolt since I hated it.  I own a lenovo thinkpad which I use as my main laptop.  The only apple product I still own is my iPad which I don’t really use that much.)

          • Custom Colonel

            Ignore the idiot android fanboys, man.  They pat themselves on the back to feel better about their lack of social skills.

          • EC8CH

            Unlike the i*hone fanboys who troll websites to make their epeen seem bigger.

          • Custom Colonel

            Yes, because Android fanboys don’t troll…or say things like epeen or i*hone.  Gimme a break, lemming.

          • Tesseract 3

            Lemming? That’s the best you got? Crawl back under your bridge, troll. 

          • EC8CH

            I think that one really made it bigger, run back to MacWorld and tell all your buddies what you said on Droid-Life.  Their gonna all think you’re so awesome.

        • EC8CH

          Who flew a pirate flag over their headquarters again… I forget?

      • http://twitter.com/kgballa1 Giscard

        If Apple didnt basically steal there radio design, basically the phone part of iPhone, from Nokia - http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jun/14/apple-nokia-patent-case and Motorola - http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20018791-37.html (if anyone thinks that Apple partnered with moto on the rokr for any other reason then stealing IP they’re crazy) they would still be selling iPod’s AND THATS A FACT!!!!!!  

        • TheAndroid1

          I never said Apple was perfect.  They have copied too and they should be forced to pay when they use other people’s property.  But the fact that they sold does not give other companies the right to rip off of Apple.  Is Nokia evil because they made Apple pay when Apple copied?

          And they do still sell iPods.

          • Tesseract 3

            If I recall apple started that suit and nokia counter-sued, so it sure does make nokia look like good guys and apple look evil. Just sayin…

        • TheAndroid1

          I never said Apple was perfect.  They have copied too and they should be forced to pay when they use other people’s property.  But the fact that they sold does not give other companies the right to rip off of Apple.  Is Nokia evil because they made Apple pay when Apple copied?

          And they do still sell iPods.

      • http://twitter.com/kgballa1 Giscard

        If Apple didnt basically steal there radio design, basically the phone part of iPhone, from Nokia - http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jun/14/apple-nokia-patent-case and Motorola - http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20018791-37.html (if anyone thinks that Apple partnered with moto on the rokr for any other reason then stealing IP they’re crazy) they would still be selling iPod’s AND THATS A FACT!!!!!!  

      • Anonymous

        Actually quite the opposite.  It would lead to no appreciable revenue for the innovations, but many more people would/could now innovate with impunity and no royalty or licencing requirements.   Keep in mind that innovation doesn’t necessarily mean that a developed product, be completely orginal as most “Innovations,”are merely variations of another product or idea anyway.

  • TheAndroid1

    Apple has the patents, if other companies want to use the innovations then they need to pay.  If everybody could just copy then there would be no innovation because there would be no reason to innovate.  Like Apple or not, they have the patents on the technology.

    Even if you want to say Apple copied things like the notification bar (which I still think there is a large difference), you have to remember that Google made Android open source (one of the things android users like to brag about) which means Apple can use it freely.  Open source works both ways.

    • Anonymous

      I have a patent on converting water into a gaseous form by applying heat. Everyone who’s ever boiled water must pay me for their use of my brilliant idea! To do otherwise would stifle new, innovative ways of creating steam!

      • TheAndroid1

        You see, you wouldn’t be able to patent something like that because people have been doing it forever.  It’s not even close to an original idea.

        Plus, patents expire, which means at some point people will be able to freely do everything outlined in the patent.

        • Anonymous

          The point I was trying to make, not bluntly enough I guess, is that the nature of these patents are as silly as my example above. Things like, “using a touchscreen interface to access information,” or, “using a button within an app to buy additional features,” are used to patent troll all the time.
          One of the patents in this Apple dispute concerns creating links out of urls, addresses, phone numbers, and emails. How is a patent on that piece of common sense helping innovation? It’s not. These patent wars have gotten out of hand. The system is broken and litigation is now being used, in the open, as tools to bludgeon competitors.

          • TheAndroid1

            If it was common sense, it would have been done in the very first phone that had the capability.

            If the patent doesn’t hold up then other companies can use it, it’s a part of the system.  Like I have said before, you want a change in the patent system.  Apple is doing what it can to protect its property.  Everything seems obvious after it is invented, think trackpads.

          • Anonymous

            Lol okay. If you’re totally “down” with using heavy handed legal tactics to completely obliterate competition, and you think this is a sign of a robust system functioning perfectly, rather than the exact opposite, I guess we’re just not going to see eye to eye.

            I never want to hear you complaining about patent trolls, though,.

          • TheAndroid1

            I think the system needs to be changed, but you can’t just tell Apple to in essence give up all of their current property within the current system because the current system is flawed.  Our legal system is flawed, that doesn’t mean we should let every criminal go free.

          • Tesseract 3

            Much of what they have patented isn’t really their property though, they either stole it or it’s something that general that has already been done many times. No one should have to wait until it has been challenged and defeated to make a product, that CHOKES the market, and allows apple’s, or any other companies hardball business practices to choke out innovation of any kind. 

            This attitude is toxic, for any company. The way the current system works, things take awhile to wend their way through the courts, if you wait for it to be challenged you will never innovate. That’s why every freakin company, including apple, just goes ahead with stuff and challenges patents later. You just do not get the patent system, or how it works right now, or the standard industry practices at all. Find something better to do, you sound like a broken record. 

          • EC8CH

            No, they should just fine *pple a butt load every time they do something stupid… like try to sue someone for using the name Appstore.

          • EC8CH

            Most of what Apple patents seems obvious because someone else has already demonstrated it before.

            Think multitouch

          • TheAndroid1

            Just curious (I actually don’t know), where was pinch to zoom done first?

          • EC8CH

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-touch

            “A breakthrough occurred in 1991, when Pierre Wellner published a paper on his multi-touch “Digital Desk”, which supported multi-finger and pinching motions”

            Just a few years before Apple used it and started to intimidate their competition.

          • EC8CH

            Most of what Apple patents seems obvious because someone else has already demonstrated it before.

            Think multitouch

          • Tesseract 3

            You just don’t get it, you claim to use android fans but I am starting to question it. Because you are posting quite a lot about a company whose products you supposedly barely use. 

            No, apple is not “doing what it can to protect it’s property”, it’s doing what it can to choke the competition by creating frivolous patents, and then patent trolling stuff that it STOLE from other companies. And claiming that it is apples intellectual property. 

            It is common sense, it’s not patentable and it’s “patent”, BS. You don’t just sit around waiting for a thousand frivolous patents to be challenged, that would take years. And would allow apple or anyone to effectively squelch all competition. You go ahead and make it and deal with the patent fight later. 

        • Tesseract 3

          And apple patents stuff that people have been doing forever, and calls it an original idea. And then you claim people shouldn’t be allowed to touch those ideas until they challenge the patent and win. Sometimes calling a patent frivolous and using it anyway is a way of challenging it. 

  • http://www.twitter.com/thewizkid95 Jesus Otero

    Eric Schmidt: You mad bro?

  • Jon Tobin

    I own a Nexus S and a Macbook Pro. I love them both. I think Apple has come up with some great innovations, and no one can deny the effects the iPhone had on starting the smartphone boom we are in the middle of. I do agree though, they should be spending more time innovating and less time litigating. If there were legitimate patent infringements (looking at you, TouchWiz), that’s one thing. However, it seems that Apple is upset because the touch slab candybar style phone has proven to be wildly successful and other manufacturers are trying to give people options. THAT’S THE POINT OF CAPITALISM. Competition drives innovation. You make one thing, I make a better thing, we go back and forth. You can’t expect to be on top all the time. With 3rd party application creators embracing both ecosystems, it seems like iOS vs. Android comes down to preference. Until Apple comes up with a way to compete in areas that they’re currently not even in (All US carriers, low-priced phones), Android will continue to dominate. Release the iPhone on every US carrier, I welcome it. It will only push Google and Apple to make their products that much better. 

    • Jon Tobin

      PS – Didn’t Nokia do the whole touch-screen only phone long before anyone else anyways?

      • Tesseract 3

        They did, I believe recently nokia won a patent ruling against apple. Apple had the gall to sue nokia for something that apple stole from nokia, nokia countersued and won. 

  • http://iamandroid.co/profile/rocktoonz Rocktoonz

    eeep….double post

  • http://iamandroid.co/profile/rocktoonz Rocktoonz

    Apple is trying to do now what it couldn’t do with the PC wars heated up…litigate themselves out of falling into the realm of irrelevance.  Microsoft and IBM nearly destroyed Apple then, and they find themselves in the same danger now from Google and other manufacturers like Samsung and HTC in the mobile market.  Mac vs. PC = iOS vs. Android.  This has all happened before, and it will all happen again.

    • Vonny571

      Liked for the BSG reference.

      • http://iamandroid.co/profile/rocktoonz Rocktoonz

        Liked for getting it :)

      • Anonymous

        I’d like to be party of this discussion, care to elaborate?  I’m curious.

  • Anonymous

    Iamokwiththis.jpg

  • Anonymous

    Hey Apple,…………………./´¯/)………………..,/¯../………………./…./…………./´¯/’…’/´¯¯`·¸………./’/…/…./……./¨¯……..(‘(…´…´…. ¯~/’…’)……………………..’…../……….”…………. _.·´……………………..(…………………………

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=25001493 Hank Godwin

       What the hell is that supposed to be?

    • Anonymous

      finger joke fail.

  • Sonycoud9

    Eric Schmidt  doesnt look real

    • Jon Tobin

      He’s a robot.

      • EC8CH

        He’d look more lifelike, but he’s still running Froyo.

        His update for Gingerbread is “Coming Soon”.

  • Anonymous

    It’s a shame that the open source nature of Android licensing is working against the Android device manufacturers here. Were Android like any other phone OS, the manufacturers wouldn’t be liable (i.e. if Apple felt WP7 was infringing on their patents, Microsoft would be legally liable rather than HTC/LG/whatever).

    I really think Google is taking these lawsuits too lightly. Situations like these are what could push manufacturers to adopt operating systems with more traditional licensing schemes (again, like WP7). They need to at least provide more legal support than they have so far.

  • Jack Sanchez

    If Apple does somehow win these lawsuits and android is gone forever I will go back to using the brick phones from the 80′s. instead of using an iphone.

  • Anonymous

    Umm..i hate to say this but..im an android fan and all …but that is the whole point of a company. Its not to better human kind..its not to be a good role model. They whole point of a company is to make profit..to give value to its shareholders. Simple as that.

    I love my evo 4g..and not a fan of apple in the least bit..but i hated the last paragraph or so of the article. That is what companies (even google) are suppose to do..’rake in the cash’.
    Google does it with ad dollars so they give away alot of stuff for free (email, phones os, etc..) to get the ad views to make that money so they inherently seem to be ‘good’er then the rest..but in the end..google is out to make money too. 

    • Anonymous

      But so far they aren’t really trying to destroy competitors by tearing down their business through lawsuits. They are just tearing them down by out innovating.

    • Anonymous

      Look up companies that Google has sued. Google has a pretty hefty patent portfolio (nothing like Samsung or Nokia, though, I’m sure), but they only use it as a shield. Apple uses theirs as a sword.

      Can’t beat someone in the marketplace? Beat them in the courtroom! It’s not exactly a new tactic; which means that, yet again, Apple failed to innovate.

  • tjhrulz

    Apple is just jelly because its next phones specs android phones have had for over a year and a half.

    i*hone and i*ad are all on a downward spiral right now and apple is trying anything to delay competitors, clearly this is not liked because a total of 5 of their major lawyers have left them in the last month.

    Also it is hard to sue someone who is open source breaking patents or not.

    • daniel walsh

      apple is dead anyway, the iphone 5 has still not been released and that has helped android for sure. @#$% apple

      • tjhrulz

        I doubt all of apple will die, but mobile phones for them just might 

        • daniel walsh

          i meant their iphone will die

          • tjhrulz

            with that I can agree

      • Anonymous

        “apple is dead anyway”

        Apple earnings report for quarter 2 released today:

        iPhone: 20.24 millions units SOLD (not “activated”) 142% increase from same quarter a year ago

        iPad: 9.25 units sold, 183% increase from the same quarter a year ago

        Pure, unadulterated fandroid ignorance….

    • TheAndroid1

      What insane world do you live in where you think that Apple is going to lose in mobile any time soon.  Their year and a half old phone is still outselling any single android phone.  I don’t know the numbers, but I would bet that the 3gs is still outselling many current Android phones.  Just wait for the iPhone 5, you will see people lining up for distances unheard of by android counterparts.

      Specs don’t make a phone good.  Like I have said before, you could have a million core processor with a terrabyte of RAM, if it doesn’t run smooth it WILL detract from the experience.  If google could get stock on every android phone, android would do a lot better.  I went from stock thunderbolt sense to cyanogenmod and the difference is night and day.  Until they can make sure EVERY android phone has a smooth experience, nobody will care about the specs.

      Like I have said in another comment, Apple has the patents, if people want to use the technology they have to pay Apple.  If companies can steal your ideas, there is no longer any reason to innovate.  Contrary to popular belief, Apple DOES license patents from other companies.  If Apple copies, it gets sued.  If other companies steal, they get sued.  Even if Apple did copy pieces of Android, they would be fine because Android is open source.  Open source works both ways.

      • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

        it dont matter it sells out one or the other…it should sell more because there are more android phones therefore more choice where as apple has one phone pretty much therefore anyone looking to buy an iphone only have one choice…That is the beauty of android there is choice and options on every carrier. As a consumer choice is the best option for me 

      • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

        it dont matter it sells out one or the other…it should sell more because there are more android phones therefore more choice where as apple has one phone pretty much therefore anyone looking to buy an iphone only have one choice…That is the beauty of android there is choice and options on every carrier. As a consumer choice is the best option for me 

        • TheAndroid1

          But for the majority of consumers, that choice may not be a good thing.  With android, you may have to know what type of processor you need to run some games (Tegra 2).  People buy low end phones thinking they will work the same because they have access to the same market.

          I agree that more choice would be nice, but there needs to be some magical point between one device and hundreds in hundreds of different configurations.  I personally believe Windows Phone 7 nailed it in this respect.

          Look at the pc market vs the mac market.  PCs are available in thousands of different configurations from cheap to expensive.  Mac’s choices are a lot more limited, yet it remains the preferred brand.  Quality vs. Quantity.

          • Usmitcboy

            You are absolutely right about Windows Phone 7. They have the PERFECT mix of open yet consistent experience. I love Android but they should def take a page out of MS’s book when it comes time for Ice Cream or the iPhone 5 may be my next phone…

          • Anonymous

            What part of WP7 do you consider to be “Open?”

          • EricTheRed

            Not so sure that Mac is the “preferred brand” in the desktop market.  According to Wikipedia PC based operating systems still consume 81.54% of the market.  Mac operating systems may or may not be be better than PC based OS’s but they don’t appear to be preferred over PC.

          • Tesseract 3

            Indeed. I found that quite funny, the claim that Mac is the preferred brand. Perhaps preferred by some elitist’s, or some people that TheAndroid1 hangs out with, but pc has over 4/5th’s of the market, and it doesn’t look like that’s changing anytime soon. 

          • TheAndroid1

            Mac’s are more expensive.  If you really think about it, is there any reason to choose pc over mac except for price.  You can dual-boot a mac to get the best of both worlds in an incredibly sleek package.

          • Tesseract 3

            You can talk about the merits of a mac all you want. The point is that mac’s are not the preferred choice for 80%+ of consumers. Their is merit in the argument of which is better, this can be discussed. Though personally I am neutral, I think they both have their merits and are better for different people based on their needs. 

          • Tesseract 3

            And as for any reason to buy pc over mac except for price? For me personally, I can think of loads. I know you say you aren’t an apple fanboy but you are really sounding like one. =P 

            Let’s see, gaming is really difficult to do on a mac, openess of platform, etc. etc. Just to name a couple of the important ones. And you forget, not everyone can figure out how to get a dual boot partition on a mac, not to mention apple is very against people putting other OS’s on their mac systems, and has been known to remotely disable devices, that people paid for, because they don’t like it. 

            Then of course there are some people that don’t like the mac systems, but like the Mac OSX, and make a Hackintosh. 

            I support all people and their computer choices, lets not start a stupid mac vs. pc war. They both have their merits, which one you get, and how you hack it or don’t hack it is based on your personal preference and needs. Their are plenty of reasons to get both besides price, and it’s just silly to say otherwise. 

            You are also obfuscating the important point, that your claim that mac is the preferred system just simply isn’t true. Pc still has 80% of the market, clearly it is the preferred choice. We could argue for days over whether one is better, and why, though I still think it’s about personal preference. But most people prefer pc’s, deal with it. 

          • TheAndroid1

            Dual booting a mac is possibly one of the easiest things you can do, you drag a slider bar for how much memory you want and reboot, then follow windows 7 install instructions which take you by the hand.

            I wasn’t considering gaming because the vast majority use Xbox’s and PS3′s, but I would obviously agree that a gamer would want a PC.

            So few people use Hackintosh that it wasn’t worth mentioning.

            Mac boots both so it gets the “merits” of both systems.
            There are some reasons for a PC (I have reasons why I chose PC), but most consumers chose mac.

            Like I said before, just because 80% have it doesn’t mean it is the preferred choice. Why do many people live in smaller houses even though they would like a larger house, on reason is often because of the price.

          • Tesseract 3

            I’m sorry but that’s just silly. What evidence do you have for it being the preferred choice? You can argue the validity of sales as proof with your house analogy, but it doesn’t hold water if you can’t provide any evidence for consumers supposedly preferring a mac.

          • http://profiles.google.com/tyler0976 tyler fish

            Yes they are and yes, there is. I would choose a PC over a Mac any day myself. It’s all about what the consumer wants. PC’s are obviously the choice computer because it is cheaper and there are tons more PC’s then there are Mac’s. The market decides which one is more desired and clearly, the winner is a PC. It’s the same concept with Android vs. Apple vs. Windows phone vs. whatever else. Android dominates the mobile market. Oh and you know you can dual-boot a PC too, right lol?

          • Mickey

            you and few of us are the only one’s that seem to get his that it’s not about quantity, but all about quality.

          • Anonymous

            Actually for the majority of consumers that choice is a GREAT thing. Each Android device has a certain “selling” point or unique aspect that makes it for everyone, hence the reason why nearly 600,000 are activated everyday and hence the reason Android controls the smartphone market. I grow tired of people calling the Android OS a lower quality system (which you are implying  with your mac/pc comparison) The majority of people who say that have either never used it or do not know how. Sure ios is “polished” but thats only because it does not do half of what Android devices do and that is a fact that you cant deny. But regardless what it comes down to is personal preference.

          • TheAndroid1

            Choice is a good thing, which is why I think Windows Phone 7 has the right idea.  I do however feel that with android, sometimes people think that they want this phone with this really cool feature but then realize that it can’t do some of the other things they want it to do.  I bought an htc Thunderbolt because it had 4g, a great selling point, but now I can’t play tegra 2 games.  At the point at which those extra features are limiting what you can do with your phone, it’s no longer a great tradeoff.  What I’m saying is there needs to be a point in between.

            Let’s not pretend that one of the reasons why there are 600,000 sales are because of cheap phones that you can get free on contract which is great but people are again not realizing how limiting those phones are going to be, they will think they can run everything on the app market.

            I’m not implying the Android OS is a lower quality system, I personally believe that the absolute best smartphone on the market is the nexus One.  It is thin and light, AMOLED screen, I like the curved screen, and have found the OS incredibly responsive.  This is why it is like the mac/pc.  With the Mac, you have few expensive options but they are all going to work well.  With Android, you can buy a cheap phone that will be slow and not work as well or you can buy a high end phone and do all of the latest and greatest.

            “Sure ios is polished but that is only because it does not do half of what Android devices do and that is a fact that you cant deny” I’m not really sure what services you are specifically referring to but it doesn’t really matter.  I would prefer a phone that was fast but had a couple less features than a phone that had all the bells and whistles that ran slow.  All of this could be avoided if Google wouldn’t give manufacturers the ability to modify Android to the degree that they do, let them install some apps that are removable but don’t let them do things that will slow android so much.

      • Tesseract 3

        Apple pays to use others technology? You mean how they stole from Xerox? You mean how they tried to steal from Nokia, tried to turn around and sue the company they stole from, got countersued and lost? You mean how pretty much everything they supposedly innovated in the mobile world was already done by WebOS? You mean how they patented “innovative”, ideas like candy bar phones with touch screens that had already existed all over the world, as if they came up with something new? Some of these companies are now challenging the patents, because they are things other companies had already come up with long before, but apple tried to claim credit for, because they are a sleazy and can’t innovate. 

        Apple claims to be innovative but the only thing they are really good at is marketing, and making people think they came up with stuff first. How many of their idea’s are not just repackaged forms of other people’s ideas, name an apple idea and I can show you how someone else (maybe an obscure company, maybe not), had the idea first, and apple came along, tried to patent their idea, marketed it as innovative and then made a killing. Then they tried to choke the market with lawsuits, lost because their patents were ridiculous and got challenged (as they rightly should), and started to lose hold of the market because the only thing they are innovative at is sleazy marketing and hardball business tactics. Their cutthroat approach is always their undoing in the end, that’s why they lost the pc market to windows ages ago, and still have not come anywhere near winning it back (they are behind by a very large percentage), that’s why they are losing the mobile market now. They get so caught up in defending “their” intellectual property that they stole from small companies and called new, that the forget to keep finding idea’s to steal and their product stagnates. And then except for the hardcore apple junkies, people get tired of their products and move on, because american consumers are incredibly fickle. 

        You’re post is so full of nonsense it’s absolutely amazing. You may want us to think you aren’t an apple fanboy, but clearly you are, just a closet one. Come out of the closet and stop trolling. If you seriously believe everything you wrote you are incredibly gullible and have had the wool pulled over your eyes by apple’s marketing team. Take the pill, wake up, the steve jobs has you. 

        • TheAndroid1

          Right, Apple stole from Nokia, Nokia had the patent, Apple gets sued.  That’s exactly how it should play out.  When one company, no matter who they are, steals from another they deserve to get sued.  I never claimed Apple is perfect as a “Troll” would.

          Wake up, I don’t care how big of an android fanboy you are, apple has innovated just as Google has.  If neither innovated, neither would be in the place they are today.

          In terms of me being an Apple fanboy, not even close.  I’ve used two original droids, a droid x, got the iPhone 4 but then traded it for my current Thunderbolt since I hated the limitations of it.  I use a lenovo laptop.  the only apple device I have is an iPad.  Funny thing is, I own just as many Apple products as Kellex, does that make him an Apple fanboy too?

            I like technology in general, I prefer Android but that doesn’t mean I will defend Google and other companies for their illegal practices.  I wouldn’t defend any company’s illegal practices.

          Trolling would be commenting on this post saying that Android Sucks and Apple and the iPhone are perfect which is not what I am saying.

          • Tesseract 3

            I know, I have posted on several of your comments downthread. I have already explained how you don’t get the patent system, and explained why I believe you are completely wrong. Your idea of how patents work is flawed. If you had your way, no company would do anything until they had challenged and won against every frivolous patent that any company filed. In that world, no one, Apple, Google, Windows, anyone, would ever come out with any products. They would all be waiting for the cases to settle in court first. No one would innovate, the market would stagnate completely and nothing would happen. This is why people criticize apple, they are the most sue happy company around, patent complete nonsense, and steal idea’s from other companies themselves, they are hypocrites. 

            What you don’t get is that it is standard industry practice to just go ahead and use stuff that has been patented frivolously, challenge the patent later, so that you can actually get off your butt and do something as a company. Apple and everyone does this. That’s how it works, this is the system. You can’t have it both ways. If Apple has a “right”, to defend their “intellectual property” (much of which they copied or stole, such as Xerox), than every other company does. Problem is you don’t understand the implications of what you are suggesting. If the companies followed what you are suggesting, then nothing would happen and the technology market would go nowhere. There would be no innovation. 

            As for your argument that apple is protecting their property, as is every other company, that apple should be punished for what they do to, etc. Here is the point. People are going after apple on this because they are way more sue heavy than anyone else. Apple uses patent trolling (I love that phrase), as a business strategy. Yes, the patent system is bad, but apple can and should be held accountable by the tech community at large for abusing it as a business strategy instead of actually improving their products, or continuing to innovate and come up with new ideas. It becomes abuse, and not protection of intellectual property when you patent ideas others came up with, ideas that have been around for awhile, ideas so general that you can hardly call them something worthy of patent, and then throw out a billion frivolous lawsuits a year. You realize a company can be held accountable and punished according to the law for frivolous lawsuits, right? But more importantly is the court of public opinion. We have every right as a community, that is, the tech community, to criticize what we see as a company not using patent law to protect it’s intellectual property, but to patent troll in a blatant attempt to choke the market instead of getting off their butts and innovating. If you had your way no one would use basically any technology until they finished challenging apple in court on their frivolous patents, and in that case no one would ever beat apple, if apple did that they would never beat anyone else. Nothing would happen, their would be no mobile market. I know I am repeating myself but it seems I am not making my point clear enough. Nothing would go anywhere. We have a right to criticize apple for spending too much time criticizing and not enough time innovating. I have an Ipod myself, my friends have iphones, I don’t begrudge them that, but I would respect steve jobs and apple if they would spend more time actually improving their products and less time patent trolling. 

        • Alex Zeman

          Good god the apple-hate bias on this site is ridiculous.  I can’t believe I have to say this, but apple makes a good product. Of course its good, otherwise it would not be one of the top selling smartphones in the world.  Are there “better” android phones? Sure, but one thing that apple does better than ANYONE is their integration of all of their products.  They just work with each other.  Iphone, ipod and itunes are basically plug it in and let it do its thing, which is a relief for most of the population.  I am ocd about my file management, so android phones are better for me because they act like an external hard drive.  It really taints the quality of writing on this site when every possible dig at apple is taken, because I read this site for more information, not your opinion on companies.  And the truth still stands, apple makes a good product and has a right to defend itself against companies that infringe upon its ideas.  And samsung as gotten damn close on some of its phones (i.e.) the galaxy s.  Also touchwiz has always reminded me of a lame attempt to clone ios.

          And just because ios 5 is taking some of the ideas from android (the notifications) doesn’t necessarily mean that apple is “losing ground” in the mobile space.  The iphone has been an innovator for so long that it was inevitable that it would lose the innovation crown sometime.  And apple does what any good company does and takes ideas that have worked for other companies and makes them work for themselves.  I guarantee apple’s mobile share isn’t going to start declining like RIM’s is, especially not now that they are on the 2 major carriers.  A lot of the general public doesn’t like to fiddle and tweak, which is the hugest draw of android phones to me.  I love to customize and make everything “mine”, but some people just dont have the patience or time, so they buy an iphone.  That doesn’t make them stupid or ignorant or a jobs-zombie, it makes them different.  

          Last point: if you want to see how apple is still innovating take a look at how all major laptop manufactures are copying the macbook pro line.  Multi-touch gestures on the trackpad, metal casing, chiclet keyboards.  Consumer electronics is all about making the best product, but also adding things that worked for other companies into your product as well.

          • Tesseract 3

            While I agree with some of what you say, I find it funny you talking about apple having a right to defend their property, and then in another breath, say its fine for apple to use other companies ideas. Please make up your mind, thanks.

            Also, there are some valid lawsuits on apples part, that doesn’t mean they don’t have millions of frivolous ones.

        • foresmac

          “Apple stole from Xerox…” That old chestnut.

          Unfortunately for you, it’s completely untrue. Apple PAID Xerox to license some of the tech it developed for SmallTalk and the GUI that ended up in the Star series of computers to build both the Lisa and the Macintosh.

          And Apple isn’t “losing the mobile market.” The iPad dominates tablet marketshare, holding at about 80%. The iPhone has a very significant share of the smartphone market. And even thought it holds roughly 5% of the overall Mobile phone market, Apple rakes in half of all profits from that market. On what planet would that be considered “losing?”

          • Jt22knight

            Apple is losing the mobile market, if I remember correctly apple just dipped under 38 and android is in the upper 40s. From how apple and rim completely controlled the market 2 years ago and android basically came from 0 to over take apple in about 4 years.

            Tablet market different story, but android is doing the same thing is did with phones that it is now doing with its tablets. So I give its about a year and a half b4 Android gets a significant share in the tab market

      • Droidbot

        You shouldn’t even be on this site defending apple. You must live under a rock because 550,000 android devices are activated each day. Apple doesn’t even come close. They should focus on their laptops because their losing the mobile war

      • ASD

        That is the most ridiculous thing I’ve seen posted in this. You are nuts if you think this way. Fact is Apple is a bunch of whining little babies and when they don’t get what they want the take folks to court. Best thing that could happen is the die off the face of the earth. Personally I don’t care what they ever make or sell that is SUPPOSELDY the bets thing since sliced bread I will NEVER EVER in my life buy an Apple product

      • ASD

        That is the most ridiculous thing I’ve seen posted in this. You are nuts if you think this way. Fact is Apple is a bunch of whining little babies and when they don’t get what they want the take folks to court. Best thing that could happen is the die off the face of the earth. Personally I don’t care what they ever make or sell that is SUPPOSELDY the bets thing since sliced bread I will NEVER EVER in my life buy an Apple product

      • tjhrulz

        I agree with you in certain ways, but their are android phones I know outselling the 3Gs I just can not remember where I saw that. I also know that the iPhone 4 is the number one selling phone right now now questions about it. The thing I see though (I live in downtown D.C.) is a few years ago anyone who had a smartphone it was blackberry, but then more and more people switched to the iPhone. While apple may keep selling more and more iPhones it is because more people are buying. If we look at the percentage of people around D.C. (and some of the demographics this site has shown) I see more and more iPhones every day, but the percentage of them is few compared to the rapidly growing amount of andorid and WP7 phones. Apple has gained some new stiff competition in the mobile processing arena, and this is no way to combat them and I hope that this turns on them. But apple makes a great phone and OS, and have an amazing game cataloged and their is no arguing that, and they are a name brand to say the least. 

    • Anonymous

      “i*hone and i*ad are all on a downward spiral right now ”

      Apple earnings report for quarter 2 released today:

      iPhone: 20.24 millions units SOLD (not “activated”) 142% increase from same quarter a year ago

      iPad: 9.25 units sold, 183% increase from the same quarter a year ago

      Downward spiral???

      Some of you fandroids are just downright IGNORANT….

      • tjhrulz

        Sales mean nothing, look at how many more people have a smart phone now than what did a year ago. Hell even blackberry’s sales were up and they are more business person oriented. Look though at the percent of market share that the i*hone holds and compare that to a year ago.

        tl;dr
        this cat is pushing a watermelon out of a lake, your logic is invalid

        • Anonymous

          Oh that right, you’re a fandroid. You’re programmed to think that marketshare is everything, when in fact, it means very little. When you haul in 50% of smartphone profits from one phone, does marketshare really matter? Android won that battle because manufacturers dived head first into the cheap, low end of the market, a place where Apple has avoided mainly because there is little to no money to be made there. Artificially inflating marketshare numbers with 2 for 1 deals and Amazon deals where u can get an Android phone for a penny does little to nothing for a company’s bottom line, evidence by the fact that Apple makes nearly 3 times as much from the IPHONE ALONE as Google does from it’s entire operation. I’m sure that most people that live outside the fandroid geek bubble would choose profitshare over marketshare if given a choice between the too. But not in the twisted logic of fandroids. I forgot….my bad

  • Anonymous

    Apple’s Moto – “If you can’t beat ‘em, sue ‘em”

    • daniel walsh

      that is their motto, they know android kicked their asse%

  • Jeff

    The claims are extremely weak, I doubt that they will hold up on appeal….

    However, the ITC will not ban the import of the HTC phones.  It will insted force an arbitration between Apple and HTC for cross licenses.  Also Apple may very well lose the suit that HTC has brought especially since they bought S3…..

  • Gahawn

    It’s the same old story. Apple creates something cool and the rest of the world makes it better and more accessible while Apple still has its head up its a** thinking they’ve invented sliced bread again and everyone should love it because they were first. Eventually Apple will invent something else really cool and the cycle will start over again.

    • Anonymous

      Just can’t beat the open source…

  • Xpsu06

    Not cool xrapple

  • Dan

    Sounds like this Apple has a worm in it…

  • Calumnium

    agreed wholeheatedly, i was quite ammused with the ios5 preview but this is just absurd, c’mon apple, where are your simple buttons and wheels that will save you now?! GO ANDY!

  • daniel walsh

    i completely agree with this. Apple can’t win and they try to ban android so that they can win 

  • http://twitter.com/shells_guy Spencer

    First????

    • DroidzFX

      To answer you question: no you were not First thank you come again

  • DroidzFX

    The patents in question are so general its ridiculous!!!

    I am going to patent: things with lights that you touch

    • daniel walsh

      this patent war is shi@. Google, go @#$% apple

      • Inkster09

        And he shldnt be worried. Steve jobs psh funny guy

    • Anonymous

      Apple putting patents on this stuff is like Ford patenting the steering wheel, speedometer in the dashboard, windshield, etc…the desperation is disgusting…

      • TheAndroid1

        U.S. Patent 646,477 A patent regarding the powered steering wheel, also patents the the first four wheel drive system.
        Guess what, at one point that was a really innovative idea.
        Damn them for innovating so we didn’t have to work so hard to turn the wheel.

        • Tesseract 3

          You just do not get it. At all. 

        • Anonymous

          The power steering wheel is a fairly complex, extremely specific system design using hydraulics to boost steering. This is reasonably patented.

          Apple’s patents would be akin to patenting “A system to boost steering force.” I can see patenting the specific code for things like pinch-zoom, icon display, etc.; but not the concepts themselves.

          • TheAndroid1

            I was just making a joke since he was talking about patenting a steering wheel. I never actually read the patent.

    • Anonymous

      The patents are ridiculous, from what I’ve heard many  companies are challenging the patents themselves. I really don’t see this ending in all Android devices being barred from the US, that just doesn’t seem legal. Regardless many applefanboys I know personally think it’s BS, Mr. Jobs better watch himself, more than his product is on the line, his reputation is as well. 

      • Anonymous

        I feel like now that Google is stepping, we may see others who Apple has messed with decide to step in as well and simply jump Apple  (the legal way of course). I think they are asking for a fight that will not end well.

        • Anonymous

          This would be wonderful. I’m not for the demise of a company (gotta love competition!), but I would love to see their tactics backfire to the point that they have to shut up and compete in the market, not the courtroom.

    • Tesseract 3

      I’m afraid Apple beat you to it.