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Thursday Poll: Deal Breaker if a Phone Doesn’t Have a microSD Slot?

During last night’s Droid Life Show, we talked at length about the storage choices that have been made for the newest crop of Android superphones. Google decided long ago that they were no longer supporting expandable storage through microSD card slots, so seeing only internal storage in the Nexus 4 is not a surprise. But with the DROID DNA and One X, HTC also seems to be moving in a similar direction, one that many of you have voiced concerns over.

We went around the panel and asked if it would be a deal breaker to not have a microSD slot for expandable storage. The entire DL team was fine with internal-only, because most of us are heavily invested in the cloud. After reading through comments over the last couple of days, it’s clear that not all of you agree with that idea. So, let’s poll it.

Tell us if you can live with internal only or if you won’t even consider a phone unless it has expandable storage.

Deal Breaker if a Phone Doesn't Have a microSD Slot?

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  • skinja

    It is not a deal breaker, but all phones should have a micro SD slot. It is so cheap to manufacture, it should be standard.

    I have a 32 GB and a 64GB card for my DINC2.

    Yeah the cloud is great. But the amount of memory on phones should be going up, NOT DOWN.

  • edmicman

    I don’t miss the SD card, but really won’t look at a phone that doesn’t have 32GB on it. That really should be the minimum….I assume that’s the most popular option for *the other guys* too.

    When I had my OG Droid, I had tons of space on the SD card but hardly any apps took advantage of the app2sd feature. So I just ended up running out of space on the paltry system partition. What good is the swappable space if you’re still cramped on the space that everything uses?

  • Joe Paul

    Why can’t we have both like the Xoom? 32gb internal with sd.

    I will not buy a non-nexus without an SD slot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/otto.dieffenbach Otto Dieffenbach

    32gb onboard with OTG

  • http://www.facebook.com/jesse.dula.7 Jesse Dula

    32GB’s is perfect for me, but I understand the reasoning behind wanting expendable storage.

  • kuboo99

    I am fine without microSD (but it is nice to be able to physically pull out the storage and access it even if the phone is dead) as long as their is 32 GB of internal storage. My 32 GB Gnex has only 4 GB or so free. This is with a 4 GB music library, 2 or 3 nandroid backups, Titanium backups, a 4 GB Ubuntu image, a large number of games and then assorted pictures and other junk. It would be hard to have to pick just a few of those things so that I could fit within 16 GB.

  • NexusMan

    Didn’t jump ship from Verizon and get the Nexus 4 because it ONLY has 16gb storage. If there is no sd card slot, a device MUST have at least a 32gb option, or I’m not interested.

  • Arcwindz

    32 gb and no less, but i am still buying nexus anyway since the + overwhelm the – (see that price!)

  • nightscout13

    So seems the consensus is that if there is no removable storage, then there MUST be at least 32GB built-in.

  • RaptorOO7

    The problems I have with local only storage is I do not want to be dependent on cloud storage. Too many sites get hacked, your data is lost and more importantly once you store it in the cloud its out of your control. What if the server your data resides on gets swept up by the Feds even though your server was not involved in anything. This has and will continue to happen and get worse.

    The bigger issue I have is the piss poor amount of local storage. Samsung offers a 16GB, 32GB and 64GB versions of the S3 and GN2, YET, NONE of the US carriers are offering anything above 32GB on the S3 and nothing above 16GB on the GN2.

    If Google is going away from microSD then the new “normal” needs to be 64GB period. I am not willing to have my data access restricted or what I can carry with me held back.

    For me the GN2 may be one of the last phones to carry external storage options but it will replace my iPod with a 64GB mciroSDHC card. I will carry all of my music, podcasts and some movies if I want.

    Tablets should be 32GB and 64GB minimum if there is going to be no external storage. Apps and file sizes are just too large.

    • Dain Laguna

      you can carry whatever you want to with you. just saying. it doesnt have to be on your phone. if thats inconvenient, then its you whos actually limiting what you can ‘carry’ around.

      and what reputable cloud server gets ‘hacked’ often? what are you hiding up there? your social? skydrive, google drive and dropbox have always been solid for me.

  • Morenoc12

    I find that on most phones when you flash the factory files it wipes your internal storage and them you need to re-download everything if you didn’t back up you could loose some precious por!!. And with copyright laws these days you may never get it back

    • FAL_Fan

      And this is why I have removable storage! I was just typing something similar to this, so well done! I also like being able to remove my pictures/videos when and if I need to have my phone repaired…without having to delete them that is.

      • TylerChappell

        Somebody has naughty pictures… XD jk
        I neglected to think of that reason, I would want to do the same.

        • FAL_Fan

          Hahaha! I anticipated someone saying that…but even though that is not the case for me it may be for others. Regardless, I would rather have the option to take the card out and not use it than to need it and not have it.

  • Ibrick

    Since watching the DL show last night it got me thinking if I could deal with just cloud based storage. So.. I spent a couple hours uploading all my music to Google play, freeing up about 8gb right there. I can always cache playlists if I know I’ll be without data.

    I crackflash ROMs but don’t keep tons of backups stored, so that wasn’t an issue. I keep smaller games, Granny Smith, AB Star Wars, etc.. On my phone, but I have 100+GB of storage on my tab so bigger games go there.

    I’ll give it a few days to see how it goes living through the cloud, I have unlimited data so raping VZ isn’t an issue. All goes well, I think I’ll pick up the DNA.

  • aznmode1

    For me I play games on my phone since it’s more convenient than lugging around another tablet. I also like to use custom roms and do need to back up my roms with CWM and TRWP and that already takes up 2gb each backup on my S3. And from time to time I download movies. I have an S3 now with 16gb which only 11gb is usable. So with HD games and rom back ups alone I will need atleast a 32gb phone if it doesnt have an SD card. But I do rather have an SDcard slot though just so I can move that card to my new device next year and not have to worry about backing up my data to a pc then copy to the new device.

  • arthuruscg

    When flying and traveling, it is nice to load my SD cards up with movies and music. I usualy only take the work laptop and work does not allow for personal storage on laptops. Also, there is still areas of the country with only 1x coverage and there are hotels with shared dsl wifi. So, i need sd cards on my phone.
    I am also in the D4/ physical keyboard minority.
    Kellex, is there a way to watch the show and chat from my phone at the same time?

  • http://www.facebook.com/jason.bringhurst Jason Edward Bringhurst

    Considering how much porn I put on my 32GB C10 SD card, it’d be a bit of a hassle to have to pick and choose between them with solely internal storage; of course you can copy the stuff you don’t need to a laptop HDD and keep it there for a bit, but meh, I’d rather swap SD cards. Between music, pictures, NAND backups of my phone, and videos (camera shot and others), I have very little space left on my 32GB card. At least with removable storage, you can use multiple cards (one for just music, for example). Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t want every single thing on the cloud.

    • Dain Laguna

      lol

  • Michael Quinlan

    I used to think lack of a Micro SD card slot was a deal breaker, but I changed my mind after experience with the Droid X, X2 and Bionic. There’s no standard mount point for external memory, making it difficult for apps to use as their default storage location. My son’s X2 has a Micro SD card slot, with an almost empty 16GB card in it, yet he is unable to install more apps because his internal memory (4GB) is full. Until the space on Micro SD cards is usable to the degree that internal memory is, I can live without it.

  • Buckoman

    I’m sorry, but i wholeheartedly disagree with the SD card thing. If you have an SD card, just set it to save things to the SD card. If you have no idea what you’re doing, don’t use an SD card at all, but I change phones a lot and popping a new SD card in is a lot simpler than transferring everything to my computer through MTP, then putting it back on the new phone. That’s WHY Android has options like an SD card. It just seems stupid to regress into something you were trying to get away from.

    You think SD cards are confusing? Don’t bundle one with the Nexus phones, but at least give us the option. What if I want Shadowgun, Asphalt, Nova 1-3, and Dead Space on my phone paired with my 3GB of music I want to bring on my plane ride because that’s how I roll? It’s literally a major key piece of what set Android phones apart from the locked down storage environment of Apple, where the only excuse was “delete it” if you don’t have space.

    Come on, Google. Think about it.

  • Lance

    Here’s the thing about using the cloud, it would be fine to do so if the wireless carriers were supporting unlimited data plan but the two biggest carriers ATT and Verizon are not, so micro sd cards are a must, otherwise we will be paying a fortune to keep our content in the cloud. I have tons of music on my sd card so i need a card for sure. Why move away from the cards? So carriers can profit from higher data plans? Plus if you keep everything in the cloud then what about when your in areas that have weak signals?

    • Ohiwastedmylife

      Riiiight? No one thinks about things like this and it is so aggravating! Unlimited data will not ALWAYS be around, and when we are using 10GB a month from cloud storage we are going to be paying 25% or more for our phone bills. Weak signal is also a huge issue, what about plane rides, or commutes where no signal is available. I would assume 80% of people not wanting an SD card have the unlimited data rolling right now, otherwise they would be up in arms as well.

      • Lorne Serpa

        I deploy! No cloud for me. I’ll just take my 20gb of movies with me as well as maps that cannot come from the cloud.

        • Dain Laguna

          and you regularly have time to watch 20 gigs of movies?? you could just switch to a provider who does have unltd data.

          there is a difference between ‘being able to’ and ‘needing to’

          • jb

            No one really “needs to” have a smartphone at all. The whole point is that smartphones enable us to do things we couldn’t have done before. It’s frustrating that Google is conceding one of it’s greatest selling points to Apple. “You were right, consumers can only handle limited storage and should have their wallets raped if they want more than a modicum of space on their phone! Please, ghost of Steve Jobs, don’t sue us any more!”

        • Ibrick

          If you have 20g of movies on your phone it sounds like its time to invest in a tablet.

          My phone is great for 30min of Netflix, but if I’m somewhere I’ll be watching a full length movie my Transformer Prime is the way to go. Just sayin..

  • SD_Scott

    While I’m not stoked about it, I could probably manage on 16gb if the phone was a must buy. However, if there is a 32gb option, I’m always going for that…

  • moew

    My issue with internal storage, it’s harder to move from phone to phone. I use my 32G SD to swap between phones. There’s some backup/migration required (not much, backup txt’s and any local downloads/pics that might be on internal storage), can do it all in the field or at a store, or right before going to a store for a new phone without the use of a computer.

  • roberthenderson

    Absolutely a deal breaker. Ran out of room on my 16gb touchpad and will never come up short on memory again. Rocking a 32gb gs3 with a 64gb class 10 card.

  • Derek Haneman

    For me personally the size is irrelevant, only the lack of SD card slot is relevant. Because as time passes memory needs change. So having the option to add more memory at a later date is always beneficial. Its just future proofing for a product.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nathanielnewmanmusic Nathaniel Newman

    I could live with 32GB of internal only but always prefer to add on. Right now with my Maxx HD I have internal of 32GB and SD of 32Gb so 64 GB all together.

  • paul_cus

    Expandable storage is not a feature that has any bearing on a phone purchase I make.

  • d

    Got a nexus out of surprise, came from a thunderbolt. Thought it was gonna be tough with out an external but its all good in the hood. What I really want is an HDMI out on every new phone.

  • jeff3yan

    Never needed an SD card slot, never will.

    • TheCheapGamer

      Must be nice to have nothing on your phone…

      • jeff3yan

        Cloud storage, streaming music, decent data caps work wonders.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001458670467 Tyler Cameron

          Cloud storage is only useful for dumping pictures onto.

          • Ibrick

            Music is a huge one you’re forgetting. I moved 8gb worth of music to the cloud which freed up a huge amount of space. I can cache play lists if I need to so I still have access if I’m without data. I do have unlimited data, so if I didn’t it might be a different story though..

            The only thing I can see being an issue is if you dont have a tablet and are downloading games pushing 2-3gb a piece.

  • Ohiwastedmylife

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    Totally depends if you have unlimited data or not. Without unlimited data I would assume way more people would care about storage space

  • ryhelwood

    Anything under 32gb would be a dealbreaker for me. The cloud is a good idea, it’s unfortunate carriers are ruining it for people without unlimited

  • buckazui

    while i do fine with my 32gb gnex i would still really like an sd slot its by no means a deal breaker but it certainly sweetens the pot in my book. i just liked being able to transfer stuff to my card with my sd reader and then pop it in the phone when it was done now i have to wait with my whole phone attached to the computer when transferring new songs or movies

  • kixofmyg0t

    I don’t see why having a SD card is such a “confusing” issue. Literally MILLIONS of devices have a SD card slot…..users aren’t confused by them. Personally I think that if a user can’t figure out how to use a SD card then all these new whizbang “features” of 4.2 will melt their fragile little melon.

    Adding a SD card reader adds a negligible price increase to the cost of manufacture.

    With that being said, if a device doesn’t have AT LEAST 32GB of internal storage without a SD card slot I won’t even consider buying it. Even then I won’t be totally sold on it. I keep my music, ROM’s, emulators and games(Genesis, SNES, N64, PSX, PSP) on my G.Skill 32GB Class 10 SD card, while movies and my pictures(thousands) go in the internal card. I’m not even counting the crap in my Dropbox and Google Drive.

    If Motorola makes a Nexus without a SD card slot and only 8 and 16GB of storage then even *I* won’t buy it. If that’s how it’s gonna be then a Nexus is something I definitely don’t want.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=508537922 John Darin Holloway

      It’s confusing to the apps/app developers. On my droid 4, google music, the stock mp3 player, etc use the internal storage as opposed to the 32GB sd card. Winamp is the only mp3 player i’ve found that behaves correctly with the external sd card that I had to populate manually.

      • kixofmyg0t

        Thanks for helping my point without even realizing it. You listed a few programs that will fill up that what….6.8GB of user available space on the 8GB N4?

        Exactly.

        • Dain Laguna

          how will google music fill that up unless you make all of it available offline? does everyone here drive 10 hours to work every single day?

          • kixofmyg0t

            I drive 6 hours to Florida and then back again every other weekend. What’s your point?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=710725095 Jason Crumbley

        I use player pro. Works just fine.

    • JetBlue

      Slows down the OS to read the sd card.

      • kixofmyg0t

        How little you know my friend.

        • JetBlue

          Then what was the reason Google doesn’t have sd cards in their Nexus phone? and If I know so little why don’t you provide me with the details as to why I am wrong or do you not know yourself?

          • kixofmyg0t

            Well, you ARE right in a way. I/O ops do take cpu cycles, but so does radio calls….drawing anything on the screen….well pretty much anything you do with your phone “slows down” the OS.

            Google claims SD cards “confuse” users. I think that’s complete BS. If a SD card confuses you then maybe you really need to start looking at a dumbphone. Chances are a smartphone is only going to frustrate you even further.

          • Dain Laguna

            i think the ‘confuse’ part was a bit much on mr. duarte’s part, but in my personal experience, my gnex pulls up music and pictures waaaay faster than any other android phone i had that had all this content on an sd card.

          • kixofmyg0t

            SD card quality has a role in that. A Class 10 card obviously reads and writes faster than a cheap class 2 card.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=16822034 Paul McElroy

            SD cards themselves are slower than internal memory. If you had moved that content to internal memory you would have noticed a speed increase.

          • jb

            But this is the “smartphone” market, most of the people buying iphones and androids have no idea what they are buying, they just want a pretty screen that can play angry birds. These are the people that are “confused” and these people are buying iphones instead of android. Google wants to change that.

          • kixofmyg0t

            So we’re going to lower standards to meet the lowest common denominator? If that’s the case then Android would be only 4 buttons, “Phone”, “Text”, “World Wide Web” and “Facebook”. Let’s just remove everything that could possibly confuse anyone at all.

            No. That’s not the answer. You can’t tell me that Nexus buyers are confused by SD cards. In fact Nexus buyers are the most savy of the buying crowd.

          • NemaCystX

            In a way, the Nexus could be dumbed down intentionally as to not hurt Google’s android partners.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=16822034 Paul McElroy

            Oblivion was Bethesda’s answer to Morrowind and Daggerfall. And it was more popular and wildly successful. Wrestling is on the Syfy channel. Snooki. I think pandering to the lowest common denominator is a pretty popular and successful strategy for companies, even if it isn’t the “right” one.

            I don’t want to live on this planet anymore… /Farnsworth

          • NemaCystX

            Google is trying to appeal to everyone with android, even if that does include those that belong in the iPhone category (people that can’t use a smartphone without getting frustrated) it might be simple but to many, its the dumb persons smartphone.

          • Trueblue711

            The real reason behind Google’s intent of no longer supporting the SD card is probably to push their own agenda of moving everyone to the cloud. They want you to store all your music, documents, etc. into their cloud services because it helps themselves and encourages use of their services beyond the OS level. Also, your point isn’t correct because OS files are always installed internally. Reading mp3s from the SD card is not going to slow down Android at all.

            I think this is very narrow-minded of Google considering the wireless bandwidth problems. I blew through ~400MB of data within a week from Google Music alone. I have unlimited so I don’t care, but if I were limited to 2GB like most people, that is not acceptable, nor is it worth it.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=16822034 Paul McElroy

            I agree with all of you points. Good post. However, there may be no noticeable impact on SD-bound mp3s, but on higher bandwidth activities such as HD movies or storage intensive video games, the bandwidth limitations are noticeable. But it’s still worth it to have the backup and transfer capabilities of an SD-card.

    • Blasmonk

      I think it can be confusing when you allow things to be placed on either the internal storage or SD card (especially apps). I like the idea of having expandable storage but it might make more sense if it was more restricted and separate from internal storage. Maybe it should only be possible to use external storage for media files and backups, for example.

      • kixofmyg0t

        I think what would be more useful is Android could aggregate storage space, or perhaps give a default location option.

        Google doesn’t seem too fond of SD cards….so it’s no wonder that Google Music for example doesn’t give you a simple prompt of “Hey, we’ve noticed that you have a bunch of SD card space. Would you like to use it for music storage?”. Yeah, that’s SOOOO confusing alright.

        • Blasmonk

          Yes, it would be better to seemlessly add the SD card storage to the internal storage but that’s difficult for technical reasons (e.g. what happens when you remove the card or swap in another?). The layer of indirection also creates a performance penalty (ala Linux’s LVM).

          • kixofmyg0t

            Seemless storage would be hard to implement, but I think it could be done. Is it ideal for all situations? No. It’s still better than not having a SD card at all IMO.

            You do have a great point though.

        • JWellington

          +1 ! For me to get around that limitation I had to create a symlink from /data/data/com.google.android.apps.music/files to /exsdcard/ . This allowed it to point to the SD card instead of internal storage. Anyway, this kind of action is something only a tech savvy person would understand anyway. Perhaps that’s the point.

        • http://twitter.com/misterE33 Mr E

          Definitely! It’s such a pain to actually USE the sdcard on my GSIII because not everything lets you save to it.

          On the other hand, I still like to have some control over it, because I don’t want some stuff split off onto the sdcard if I want to later switch it out, etc.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=16822034 Paul McElroy

        Then traditional computers must really confuse you, with all their storage options. /sarcasm

  • ERIC REED

    I still have my Verizon unlimited data plan, so it’s not an issue for me. My phone is 16gb with only 13 available and I still have 4 left over. Instant Upload stores my photos and Google music stores my music.

  • Mark

    I can manage with 32 onboard. But it’s such a pain compared to having it all right there on the micro SD. A full year with the GNEX has me in DESPERATION mode to get back to a phone with the Micro SD. plus I miss all the advancements of Touchwiz and or Blur.

  • kidheated

    32gb should be the absolute minimum/default. But even that amount is antiquated these days.

  • Daistaar

    Cloud availability is another reason why we should have more internal storage. The cloud is not always available and shouldn’t be our primary resource. That’s like reverting to POP Mail that can only be viewed while online. I want to own and have my content at my leisure, not lease it when its available.

    I dictate when I consume my media and if that’s underground on the subway I shouldn’t have to wait until i can reach the cloud again.

    • Steve Douglas

      The only reason cloud storage doesn’t work for me is I had to give up my unlimited and go on the share plans. Otherwise 32G would be just fine!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001458670467 Tyler Cameron

        That made no sense. Data is data.

        • Gregory Lockman

          Well in the cloud you are streaming it every time vs downloading it once or loading you music and movies from your PC, big difference, plus data is not available in the subways which is a pain if you live in a city…

        • Steve Douglas

          Sorry if I was confusing. For me to stream music all day with my shared data plan vs having a huge SD card that allows me to store my music is easier on my shared data plan ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10215724 Raj Bhatt

    As much as I love to hate VZW, it is a dealbreaker for me if the phone isn’t on VZW. Sad about the fact that I won’t get a new Nexus this year.

  • JetBlue

    16GB is minimum with 32GB being a comfort area otherwise anything below 16 needs a sd card.

  • EvanTheGamer

    No, I can manage with 32GB of internal storage.

    No, I can live with only 32GB, but what I CAN’T live without and IS a deal breaker for me is a phone with no user-replaceable battery! Gotta have an extra battery! Gotta stay connected!

    • kixofmyg0t

      In the past I would have agreed, but the 3300mAh battery in my HD is big enough to last me a few days.

    • lemonhead127

      I’m guessing that non-removable batteries in phones is going to become the norm by next year or 2014. If that is mainly what you are looking for in a phone than you may have a bad situation on your hands.

  • New_Guy

    Normally I would say yes, but am under the impression that we can’t have muli-user accounts and removable storage at the same time. So, no with 32gb’s

  • http://jordanhotmann.com/ Jordan Hotmann

    No, I can manage with 8GB of internal storage

  • Daistaar

    The thing with small local storage is that everything is increasing in size, app-wise. Install Asphalt 7, MC3, and Dark Knight and you’re already about 6 of those 16GB deep. Not to mention actual capacity is more like 11 GB. 3 Apps should not take over 50 percent of available space. This is why we should at least have the option of external storage or larger internal storage.

    • QQpayne

      This is what i have a tablet for, all of my gaming is done on it. This leaves my phone freed up of the memory hogging apps, with steaming content for my media consumption I am set.

      • http://www.anglaispod.com/ bucketachicken

        But what about tablets like the N10, with just 16 or 32 GB of storage and no MicroSD slot? Isn’t that the same issue? I’m with Daistaar, I need the storage because app sizes were increasing. On the G1, apps of just a few MB were considered huge, and now, I have several 1GB+ apps, and several that are just under 1 GB. My 32 GB GS3 has like 1.2 GB free on it, it’s ridiculous. I would kill for a 64 GB option, plus sd card slot (I have a 64 GB sd card in the GS3 currently, and no, it’s not full, but the issue is more about app storage space to me, without doing any janky apps2sd solution).

        • QQpayne

          Personally I bought a tablet with micro sd support, it is a device I expect to be needing a ton of storage on. I like to put movies on the sd card, as well as a plethora of games.

          • http://www.anglaispod.com/ bucketachicken

            I wish I had done that. My first one was a Galaxy Tab 10.1 (of course the 32 GB), and I bought it back when there weren’t hardly any tablet games, but as more and more came out, it quickly became full. It is currently broken (SOD — anyone good with nvflash? :D ), and I bought a Nexus 7 as a replacement. Unfortunately, I did this about 2 months before the 32 GB came out, and so I have the 16, which is hardly usable. I have like 2 pages of apps on it and it’s practically full. I think my next tablet will either have to have like 64 GB of built-in, or 32 built-in plus sd slot. I wonder if the Infinity is a good investment still at this point in time…

        • michael arazan

          my apps, By themselves, take up 4.1 gb of storage, 10 minutes of HD video recorded on your phone takes up 1 gb storage. In a time when the duopoly of carriers are making lte data a premium price, people are not going to want to pay for all that streaming. I listen to Tune-in radio about 2 hours a day everyday and that is 2 gb a month in data just for that alone.

        • itznfb

          I have hundreds of apps and games installed on my 16GB N7 and I stream music and movies. I’m not even 50% full on it. I’m not sure how anyone could use up that storage without putting an entire music library on it.
          As for my phone, I’ve never had more than 2GB used…

          • jb

            Games and movies….
            Yes, we know, you can stream movies (but not on most flights, not on the bus/train, not at the doctor’s office, etc).

          • itznfb

            This post is about a phone so in that respect a flight without WiFi would be your only issue. In regards to tablets you can just tether through your phone. 8gb – 16gb is still plenty to store many hours of music and a couple of movies for a flight. I don’t get it. I think people relying so heavily on local storage are holding onto an aging way of doing things. Nothing wrong with that…. but I think those people are going to have a harder and harder time with each new generation of devices as I think we’ll see expandable storage disappear completely within the next two generations or so.

          • jb

            “The older way of doing things” is accepting limitations in mobile devices and reserving certain things for larger devices. I no longer need a desktop PC to play decent games or watch high quality video, why should I have to have a tablet?

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=16822034 Paul McElroy

            Doubt it, people will always want swap-able local storage. There’s no growing out of that. Phone makes are living in a fantasy world right now. But that bubble will pop.

          • itznfb

            People? Or geeks? Most people wouldn’t even know how to go about purchasing the right card or why they would even need it.

        • https://plus.google.com/114483312559013915960/ Timoh

          Android tablets can use USB flash drives. Just get a cable and flash drive. Not ideal really but really cool to have the ability to do so. Definitely more cost effective than (Micro)SD cards.

          http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812186188&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA

      • http://twitter.com/misterE33 Mr E

        Honestly, my tablet is nearly empty, while my phone is always full. I just don’t/can’t carry the tablet everywhere, and it’s a pain to sync app data, so it gets occassional use.

        • InyRules

          That is what I am finding my tablet use to be. My tablet is full only because I put videos on it to watch while at break or in bed and don’t want to turn on my PC. With the ability to purchase and download pretty HQ movies and TV shows from Amazon, I would want a mobile device that can house more than 3 movies and a couple of apps. I’d kill for a decent tablet with 64gb+ (not an iPad since I can’t deal with all the proprietary aspects of Apple and iOS).

      • Sqube

        I see your point and it makes sense. Hell, I’ve got a TPrime and a 64GB microSD card for it.

        At the same time, I don’t see why I should have to carry my tablet around at all times to play some games. I just have a hard time believing the difference between 16GB and 32GB is the difference between whether a phone is profitable or not.

        • itznfb

          While I don’t see the need for huge amounts of storage on mobile devices…. it really shouldn’t be that big of a deal for manufacturers to add up to 256GB of local storage at a low cost. The memory they use isn’t even highly spec’d memory and is pretty cheap. It kills me that they charge $100 per 16GB when it only costs them a couple cents.

          • Sqube

            I freely recognize that 32 is an eminently reasonable upper limit, and 64+ is just for bragging rights. But they’re just trying to force us towards the cloud anyway, so that we can spend more money on data.

          • http://www.anglaispod.com/ bucketachicken

            There’s two problems I have with this. First, manufacturers are pushing for the cloud, yes. Carriers, on the other hand, are putting more and more limitations on data caps (if I use Plex to stream a 720p BluRay ripped movie to my phone or tablet, that’s like 5+ gigs at full quality, even half quality it’s still the entire data cap for many people), and coverage, especially at the 4G level, is nowhere near where it needs to be for this to be reality yet.

            But for the moment, let’s ignore that. Pretend 4G coverage is everywhere, worldwide, and data caps are nonexistent. Streaming music is now wonderful, high quality, works everywhere. Same for movies and tv shows, works perfectly. But games? Games aren’t streamed currently. Sure, there’s the occasionall OnLive-esque system for phones/tablets, but those are few and far between. 99% of mobile games are downloaded and locally installed. Looking at my installs right now on my GS3, MC3 takes 2.68 GB, Dark Knight takes 2.28 GB, NOVA 3 1.76 GB, Asphalt 7 1.49 GB, and Real Racing 2 takes 1.05 GB. That’s just 5 games, and that’s 9.26 gigs taken up. Ignoring the fact that I’m on Sprint and it’s a GSM device, the N4 would be completely out of the question for me. I couldn’t even install those 5 games at once on the phone for the 8 GB version, and wouldn’t have all that much space left on the 16, and that’s FIVE games. Why should I be limited to such a low number of simultaneously installed games? It’s not like app sizes are trending downward or anything, either…

            So that’s why I want my 32GB devices (or 64? 128? I would HAPPILY buy those…). If we ever get to a time when coverage/network speed isn’t an issue, and data caps aren’t an issue, AND there’s some sort of magical ultimate OnLive-style system where I just install that one app, open it, and pick any game I want and just play it immediately, no loading, all stream, then I will happily buy a device with tiny-ass onboard storage. But until that happens, I needz mah geebees. Plus, it’s frickin’ 2012, memory prices are getting so cheap, there’s even less of a reason to skimp than there was in years before.

    • SD_Scott

      Does your opinion change when cloud gaming becomes the norm?

      • http://www.anglaispod.com/ bucketachicken

        Only if ubiquitous, high-speed Internet connections have also become the norm.

      • http://profiles.google.com/ejsu28 E.J. Su

        Personally, No. The data service would have to get a lot more stable and faster. and I wouldn’t have to think about how much data I am using all the time. THEN I might, (and I emphasize *might*) change my mind.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=710725095 Jason Crumbley

        Data limits make the cloud useless unless you have wifi everywhere you go.

      • SD_Scott

        I agree with all of you who responded to my comment…

        Jason – Data limits suck the fun out of everything. Especially when most music/video services are focusing on becoming completely cloud based.

        EJ – I live in San Diego so can’t relate to your problem but understand your point.

        Bucket – Touche.

        • http://twitter.com/misterE33 Mr E

          yeah… lag and needing a data connection is a big detriment to cloud gaming. HOWEVER, dead trigger is a great example — it lets you save your progress on their servers, but the game is still installed locally.

    • LewisSD

      Three apps don’t take up over 50% storage, because those are three games and three of the largest games at that .

    • http://twitter.com/misterE33 Mr E

      Agreed about the apps size. I’ve already filled internal storage on my 32GB phone several times, mainly between apps and a couple of nandroids. ICS+ also makes it hard to use an sdcard as extended storage, so internal is even more important, I think. That said, an sdcard isn’t the biggest concern for me as long as the phone has at least 16GB internal.

  • QQpayne

    With cloud storage and streaming content for everything these days internal storage means very little to me. Even an 8gb phone would be effective for my usage.

    • Mark

      The carriers that charge according to data consumption LOVE people like you. Because then you have to use precious data just to access what you have stored….. And that translates to LOTS of more money for them.

      • QQpayne

        Yeah, I have unlimited data.

    • roberthenderson

      Unless you don’t have unlimited data, in which case you will have massive bills or always tired to WiFi.

  • http://twitter.com/hon_kudasai Ryan

    Has to have 64GB before I’ll forego the sdcard.

    • Sport

      Exactly. Right now I’ve got a total of 80gb on my Razr Maxx and I love it. I use my phone as a video/movie player and as my main music player, therefore it needs to have a lot of space on it, not to mention holding a lot of HD pics/vids.

      • TheDrunkenClam

        Porno

        • http://twitter.com/misterE33 Mr E

          Android is for porn, right?

    • lorrimar

      I agree with this completely. at 64gb I’ll consider a phone with out an expansion slot under that, I’m looking elsewhere.

    • auglove3rd

      I agree completely. I think HTC misplayed that on the DNA, which will probably be enough to keep me away. Too bad, it’s a pretty phone.

  • NicholasMicallef

    On a phone 16GB are enough but 32GB are preferable, 64GB is not worth the price though for me.

  • http://twitter.com/dark_funk dark_funk

    I can manage with 64GB of internal storage. That’s enough room for my music (about 48gb) plus sufficient room for apps and things. No reason to stop there, though – I’d love to see 128gb storage in phones become commonplace. Then we can really get beyond this discussion.

  • strider_mt2k

    Until “the cloud” gives me the same kind of access it isn’t the same and shouldn’t be touted as such.

    • Alexander H

      Your 2GB of cloud per month thanks to Verizon’s data caps…

  • droyd4life

    I think Smartphones (High-End) should be 16GB and 32GB. I don’t care if the Nexus 4 would’ve costed $50-70 for 2x more storage. At least give us the option!

  • Matthew Merrick

    See, i chose needs SD slot b/c i have a lot of media. however, if you put a 64 GB internal storage option, well, i’d actually prefer that over an SD card.

  • Destroythanet

    Only a dealbreaker if the phone has 16GB or less.

  • KleenDroid

    Amazing

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kevin-Luther/505140669 Kevin Luther

    the Droid DNA is a failure more because of its pathetic battery

    • kixofmyg0t

      Wut? Is it really that bad?

      • JetBlue

        2020 mAh battery in a phone with specs like it has is a failure in my book.

        • kixofmyg0t

          Im gonna wait for Kellen’s review before passing judgment. The One-X didn’t have the biggest battery but had decent battery life if I remember.

          Though I’m spoiled by my MAXX.

          • StoneColdCarl

            I think many, if not most, of the review sites said that the battery life was not as good as it should be.

    • Rics

      How would you know? Have you had it and been using? I have a one x with the 1600 mAh and I’m getting about 12 hours on it…. The DNA has much more energy efficient lcd3

      • StoneColdCarl

        1800*

    • http://twitter.com/misterE33 Mr E

      The battery is definitely more of a concern for me — ESPECIALLY if you’re talking about a non-removable one. I’m not saying the DNA’s is bad (I dont’ have one, obviously), but that seems like it coudl be a weak link.

      Personally, I can live with an extra milimeter or two if we could have bigger batteries! The Razr MAXX did it!