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LG Nexus in the Wild One More Time, Owner Reveals Details – 8GB Storage, 8MP Camera and More

Another prototype LG Nexus (LG-E960) has surfaced over at XDA and the owner is taking questions from curious onlookers. The pictures itself aren’t all that new, but he’s confirming specs and any other detail that you can throw at him. 

So far, he has confirmed that the device only has 8GB of internal storage and he hasn’t found a microSD slot yet. This matches up to an earlier rumor that suggests there would only be 8GB and 16GB options, a move we assumed was done to keep the price ultra low.

This lucky new Nexus owner said that the processor is a Snapdragon S4 Pro quad-core chipset clocked at 1.5GHz. It has 2GB RAM, an 8MP camera, 768×1184 (slightly different than what we saw earlier in a benchmark). The device does not have an LTE chip and is about the same thickness as the Galaxy Nexus.

To find out more, I suggest you hover at the XDA thread below and wait for him to answer more questions.

Via:  XDA

Cheers Scott!

  • poseidon5213

    WHY DONT MANUFACTERS INCLUDE A MICRO SD CARD if it dont have a micro sd Im not buying it

  • http://twitter.com/HELIO5ai HELIO5ai

    Wait…so it’s not 16×9?

  • Buckoman

    If you squint really hard at the back of the phone, you can see the word “Echo” below the LG logo.

    Hm… Nexus Echo.

    I like the sound of that.

    • nightscout13

      Actually, if you click the XDA link, you will see a larger photo, and you will see LG-E960

      • Buckoman

        I know that. I was just saying that E960 looked like the word Echo when I squinted at it.

        • nightscout13

          It’s cool, you planning on getting this phone? No way in hell for me, I need either a big ass non-removable, or simply a removable battery. Can’t have a tiny NON-removable. I HATE charging my phone.

          • Buckoman

            I’m not making a final descision, yet, but so far, 8GB of storage with no mSD kills me.

            As far as the battery goes? I used to think my S3 battery sucked. I ran it through charging cycles for about a week and now it’s the best phone I’ve owned. I’m going to have to do the same for this one, because honestly, I couldn’t care less about battery size if it works the entire day. Pack that in with JB’s new power management, and you never know, you know?

          • nightscout13

            I’m gonna wait a month after this thing get released, to see what the battery life is like. For me, my GS3 does not last all day. I get about 8 hours of use. But I also consider myself a moderate-heavy user. This is why I want to get that RAZR HD MAXX.

          • Ohiwastedmylife

            hope the note 2 lasts longer than 8 hours

  • Outdated Nexus always

    ugly phone outdated already, that’s the Nexus problem.

    • http://twitter.com/benitofederico_ The Wood™

      outdated already??

  • Geronimus

    No micro-sd slot? Pass.

  • http://twitter.com/benitofederico_ The Wood™

    Everybody is going crazy and there is no announcement lol. This is one version of the phone! This guy just happened to be sent a GSM 8 GB model that doesn’t have LTE radios ( He’s in Europe. LTE isn’t as serious for them as it is for us). I’m thinking either the test models are all like this or the people with devices with more storage are keeping their mouths shut.

  • Zach Armstrong

    The front of the phones looks OK. The back is another thing. They should of made it curved like the Galaxy Nexus. That would make it look a whole lot better.

    • Diablo81588

      Butt chin on the back looks better than this?

      • Zach Armstrong

        I think it does.

  • dean2359

    LG,no thank you

  • nightscout13

    Seems the NEXUS line will not be top tier equipment anymore. Oh well, RAZR HD MAXX here I come!

  • MikeCiggy

    No new nexus for me if they can’t hit Verizon… Lame

  • http://twitter.com/Vizualize a.d.AM

    Does anyone think this will go for $199?

  • Jackson

    Well the Galaxy nexus is 349 so it makes it hard to believe they’ll go under that price.
    If they do go to like say $250 for 8gb $300 for 16 and 350 for 32 the. The Galaxy nexus will have to fit in somewhere most likely below those hmm.

  • https://www.facebook.com/aaron.williams.125 Champion1229

    Why the low res camera? 8mp is so last year and its now the average, I was expecting them to lead the market into better and smaller cameras!

  • http://twitter.com/Mikeg1969 Mike Gomes

    Not for me, Verizon or not. Only 8GB internal, 8MP camera when the Optimus G has almost twice that? Good processor and RAM but the rest is a fail!

  • descendency

    It had better be <= $350 for the 8GB version.

    That's a joke if it doesn't.

  • Amar R

    rgb notification led?

  • kidheated

    I am on big red and disappointed by the lack of no unit on the cdma network, but I do understand. What I can not let pass is the storage or lack there of. Google doesn’t either realize or care that its consumers don’t want cloud storage, especially as a primary! With a htc one variant coming out with 64gb of internal storage and the GS3 having both great amounts of internal storage and removable as well, it makes the new Nexus look bad… really bad. Anything that comes out after a cap raiser needs to have its cap raised to match, at the very least. Instead Googs keeps back peddling. WTF! And now no removable back!? WTF x2!! Not to mention that it looks just like the Gnex, which I’m not a fan of. Stop reusing S@#$! Have we gone Apple steaz, Googs? Please no.

  • RoadsterHD1

    NO SD no SALE. Plus internal minimum is 16Gigs now. I have 80gigs in mine. Come on Google. WTF
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  • Tony Byatt

    PROTOTYPE PEOPLE! Relax, I highly doubt this is a final design, specs and all…

    • 4n1m4L

      Being announced in a few weeks?

      • r0lct

        There was old prototypes of the gnex popping up until release.

  • duke69111

    Phone’s is kind of pointless with only 16gb and no sd slot. My g nexus and I have just over 16gb used.

  • WPX

    This doesn’t seem right..I’ve also seen this same device on other well known Android sites..they state the camera is 13 mega pixel with 32 Gig of storage. It’s the exact same device..what does this mean? That this is all speculation at this point. Not a finished product yet..All this is is hypebeastin..just like before the GNex came out..and before a ton of peeps went out and bought it because it was like the mother of all phones to get according to DL. Till everyone saw for themselves that the radios and build quality are crap. LG…hmmm. I’m not convinced just yet…WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU MOTO????!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/joeyklatzko Joseph Klatzko

    If they can hit the same price points as the Nexus 7, I’m in.

  • Rob

    hmm… not really getting my juices flowing…..

  • CaptainHowdy13

    Oh and LTE doesnt matter to me because I just use 3G or WiFi to save battery.

  • Gundule

    Except for S4 and 8MP, it’s GN again with 4.2

    • http://twitter.com/expertontech Tylar Overturf

      and 2gb of ram, and a better screen.

      • Diablo81588

        Better screen is debatable if this is LCD.

        • http://riteshtripathy.wordpress.com/ Ritesh Tripathy

          What does that even mean? Seen the screen on the One X? Exactly. Beats the pants off the S3 and makes the GNex screen look like 20 year old yellowed newspaper..

          • Diablo81588

            It means if it has a LCD display, it has washed out blacks with faded colors. Don’t give me that color accuracy garbage. LCD is an inferior technology that will never have perfect contrast. End of argument.

          • http://riteshtripathy.wordpress.com/ Ritesh Tripathy

            Inferior? Show me one AMOLED display that can match the sharpness, detail and color accuracy of a IPS+ display. LCD is older tech, but IPS+ is not. Washed out blacks with faded colors? You need to see the displays on the One X, iPhone 5, Lumia 920 and the Optimus G. Sure, the AMOLED displays look more attractive but that doesn’t really equate to better. AMOLED is still immature, inefficient and the pentile ones suck at text. IPS+ will be the better display until HD Super AMOLED Plus becomes a reality (true RGB, non-pentile).

  • CaptainHowdy13

    8GB needs SD card 16 I can survive without (painfully)

  • http://fabdroid.com Andrew Xie

    No LTE is no problem for me. This supports DC-HSPA on T-Mobile’s 42Mbps network. I get 25Mbps+ where I live. Let’s hope the price cutting measure pans out and this phone starts at $350.

    • tomn1ce

      $350! I hope the rumors are true and there’s going to be multiple nexus coming out this holiday season, and this happens to be the low end nexus for $150-$200USD…Come on 8GB of internal storage they have be kidding. Memory is no longer that expensive to cheap the consumers into getting a phone with 8GB of storage and no micro-sd slot. What are they thinking?

      • http://fabdroid.com Andrew Xie

        Google will sell this unsubsidized in the Play Store. You can barely get a dumbphone for $150 unsubsidized. Flash memory is not the determinant of price here, an additional 16GB would cost LG a few dollars at most. This phone has THE latest, fastest SoC available, as well as a top of the line HD IPS screen. I don’t understand how people are calling it “low end”.

        $350 for the 8GB is reasonable.

        • tomn1ce

          I understand that it has top notch specs but come on 8GB of internal storage…..are we going back to 2009?

          • http://fabdroid.com Andrew Xie

            I’m not a big fan of the 8GB internal storage either, but for reference, an 8GB iPhone 4 still retails for $450.

            I’m just pointing out why the price range you suggested is improbable to the point of basically being impossible.

  • http://www.technoaddictions.com/ Tyler K

    I need my curved screen. GNex will not be replaced by this.

  • ShadyGambino

    Why are you people so concerned with internal storage? Movies? You can stream all the music you want from Google Music, Spotify or whatever, Dropbox / Drive for document and picture storage. With the cloud, on device media / doc storage doesn’t need to be super high; at least that’s how I use my phone.

    • Paul

      I don’t need more now, but I do wonder how much space apps are going to become, given that they’ll be HD and utilize much faster processors.

      • Geronimus

        This is also something to consider. A lot of mobile games are getting more complex and bigger in size. Just look at Nova, Bard’s Tale, NBA 2k13, etc. LG’s decision is really baffling.

    • Geronimus

      If you take a lot of pictures and video, as I do, you use up that space very, very fast. 8GB without expandable storage option is simply unacceptable at this stage IMO.

  • http://www.facebook.com/COOOOOOOOOOOOOOP Brad W. Cooper

    That Camera looks like crap! Why can’t they make it bigger? They have all that room?

  • Thomas Schiferl

    So the only things better about it than the G Nex is camera, processor, and amount of RAM? Lame. Yet it also has worse data connectivity options, storage, and looks (in my opinion).

  • http://twitter.com/doxxim Mikael

    Really kind of surprised at the fact that there is no LTE in this phone. Hopefully there will be an LTE version (for verizon? a boy can dream…)

    • http://twitter.com/doxxim Mikael

      Also, I’m really curious how well the camera performs here.

  • Jared Busch

    So i know most of you are disappointed at the storage specs, but think about this…If this is a move to keep the price point super low…IF…then this is going to be an AWESOME device to sway other OS users to try out Android. They’ll get a chance to experience the best that Android AOSP has to offer AND the main point, it will be affordable enough for them to easily make the right choice. PRO Android!

    • chris125

      most people will not even know about this phone since it wont be sold in carrier stores and not everyone wants to pay $200+ for a phone( just those on sites like these will pay that)

      • Angryunibrow

        You do realize Verizon sold all of their 4g LTE phones on contract for 299.00. So YES people are willing to spend 200+ on a phone.

        • chris125

          no they didn’t. They sold a few at $299. Majority weren’t and other than the maxx, it’s not like they flew off the shelves at that price

  • bose301s

    I wish VZW would get another Nexus, or even let carriers unlock their phones, but I don’t see that ever happening. Google should pressure them about it, or hell, just buy them. Google is after all the second biggest tech company in the world after Apple, they could afford to buy VZW.

    • mog386

      No they can’t, VZW is a joint venture between Vodafone and Verizon… They can’t afford a buy out of the magnitude, especially not with the potential that VZW has as a money maker in the future.

      • bose301s

        I know what VZW is, and at the very least Google could afford to become a majority shareholer/stakeholder in VZW.

        • BulletTooth_Tony

          It isn’t a publicly traded entity. It’s an impossibility to buy in unless they’re selling… and they aren’t selling, and they have no hope of taking over the size of Verizon Communications.

          • bose301s

            Ah yes, you’re right. I accidentally looked at Verizon Communications,

        • mog386

          VZW is a joint venture… it means there are no stock holders for it… it’s akin to a wholy owned subsidiary… Google would have to buy significant portions of both Verizon and Vodafone to get even a small say in it. Or they would have to buy a portion of it from both of them, which would cost way more capital than Google has sitting around.

  • termiNader

    The front looks a lot like the galaxy nexus

  • Donna Kilpatrick

    No LTE…. BOO!!!!!!

  • mog386

    The negatives of this phone are really starting to out weigh the positives.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Schmucker/1498547350 Chris Schmucker

    No LTE = DOA

  • http://twitter.com/ajanjo Ajay Anthony

    Why would it not have LTE?

  • chris125

    If it’s anything more than $299 off contract it’s a huge fail. 8gb storage? Really? come on google.

  • Trevor

    No SD slot = no buy

  • j__h

    I bet this is Google trying to bring low cost to the phone market.

    • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

      It has to be. If this phone is $299, then that’s actually a hell of a deal.

      • nightscout13

        So subsidized, they can offer it free from day 1 probably. Or pay YOU $100 on a 2-year contract!

      • moelsen8

        wait, who said $299 kellex…… ? :)

      • lilmoe2002

        Lower than the 1 year old Galaxy Nexus? Naaaah…

        I say $399 unlocked GSM.

      • droidman101

        300 for gnex 16gb, 350 for this Nexus 8gb, 400 for Nexus 16gb.
        All GSM with no LTE.
        Edit: or drop everything by 50.

      • rk

        This is to prevent amazon from getting a foothold in the phone market. Google perceives that as a bigger threat.

      • Leo

        Agreed, however this phone cannot be launched without LTE…

    • Jroc869, Cool story bro

      I hope so. Carriers are not to fond of subsidizing phones and if Google can pull this off, Game=Changed.

  • nexusplay

    Cue the rage over 8gb of storage. On the other hand, I think this looks interesting, it looks a bit old school, reminiscent of the nexus one.

    • Jigga_Z

      No need for rage if there are other options available. Granted, some people may still find 16GB too low, but if there are options, might as well offer something affordable!

      • nexusplay

        I agree, I was just speaking for the other people who really care about local storage. I could easily get by with 8gb.

  • cantcurecancer

    It looks like the only thing better about this phone is the SoC.

    No LTE support.
    Huge bezels, same thickness
    Insanely small storage with no expansion
    Boring design.

    Remind me again why I should give a crap about this?

    • BrandoHD

      Updated straight from Google and that quad core SoC

      • chris125

        eh quad core isn’t much of a selling point and the galaxy nexus and nexus s will get updated as well. Seems like google is taking a page from apple’s book with this incremental upgrade

        • Paul

          The S4pro’s better graphics alone is a huge step. And considering how many background processes a phone tends to have running, a quadcore is going to come to good use.

        • lilmoe2002

          That particular quad-core chip is a HUGE selling point. It’s got 2MB of Cache memory that increases single-threaded performance significantly, which means that normal apps are going to run faster than the dual core S4 chip. Not to mention multi-tasking and multi-threaded applications.

          The GPU on this sucker is the fastest GPU on the market right now, even arguably faster than the one on Apple’s A6.

          Its toll on battery should be minimum compared to Tegra3. Actually there’s not even a comparison. This chip wipes the floor with Tegra3 clean in both performance and battery life.

          • Gary Graf

            Agreed no doubt, but in a couple months every top phone will be using the chip. DLX, Optimus G, Padfone 2

      • http://twitter.com/kashtrey Trey W

        That pro, though a huge one, really doesn’t make up for a lack of LTE if this is true. This cannot be seriously marketed as a true halo device for Android without LTE.

        NO LTE + Low Storage space + No Expandable Memory = Fail. I love Google and I love the Nexus program but unless this is their budget phone for the masses and they also have a high end Nexus Razr or Nexus X or something this is going to be an extremely disappointing year as far as Nexus phones go.

        • Bill Mitchell

          Since it’s rumored that there will be at least a few different Nexus devices coming out this cycle, it shouldn’t be much of a problem. We’ll just be like kids in a candy store trying to pick which one we want…

          • http://twitter.com/kashtrey Trey W

            Unless of course they all follow the same basic specification list. :(

          • Bill Mitchell

            That’s true! But fortunately that sounds more like what Apple would do if they had an open-source program, not Google. ;P I’m still hoping for that rumored HTC Nexus with the same specs as the dlx! That’d be more than enough to get me to switch from my GNex.

          • http://twitter.com/kashtrey Trey W

            From what I understand, Google does set some requirements for the Nexus program and the manufacturers are allowed to compete on non-prescriptive design/hardware fronts. I’d hope these are minimum requirements though but things like not including an SD card slot I think are requirements.

          • Bill Mitchell

            That’s probably true, but from what I’ve been seeing lately it’s like Google sees manufacturers’ products and then starts talking to them about basing a Nexus device off of the hardware of said product, like Asus’ budget tablet which turned into the Nexus 7 and the Optimus G which is almost the same as this device. I highly doubt that no LTE is a requirement, and if it is it’s pretty much suicide.

          • http://twitter.com/kashtrey Trey W

            Very true. I’m excited overall to see what Google has to offer. If they don’t have a new Nexus I want then I can wait a year and save some money. I don’t need a new phone every year. In any case, Google will come out with 4.2 which will be enough for me as long as I can enjoy it without new hardware (like when they added NFC capabilities).

        • Leo

          Agreed 1000000000%

    • http://twitter.com/adrynalyne Adrynalyne

      Why would the S4 not have LTE support?

      • Compeyson

        The article says that an LTE chip is not included..

        • http://twitter.com/adrynalyne Adrynalyne

          Who do you believe? A tester, or Qualcomm?

          • Adam Brandt

            actually not on the S4 Pro Quad chip being used. It only includes the following on the chip: “BT 4.0, 802.11ac/a/b/g/n (2.4/5 GHz), (lacks cell modem)”
            Source (APQ8064): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)#Snapdragon_S4

          • http://twitter.com/adrynalyne Adrynalyne

            Gotcha. That is crappy. The integrated cell modem was part of the advantage for S4.

    • r0lct

      Would assume 8 is gsm and 16 is lte

      • Leo

        looks like there won’t be LTE :-( which makes me super mad bc looks like VZW will not have the next Nexus.

        • DainLaguna

          They May not have carried it anyway

    • Cowboydroid

      It actually looks thinner.
      The design is actually quite appealing.
      The new SOC will allow it to run new versions of Android so smoothly.

      And don’t forget potential improvements like wifi and gps connectivity, as well as better camera.

      Storage is such an old argument. I am baffled by how so many people that claim to be on the bleeding edge of tech can be so stubborn about accepting cloud storage for things like music.

  • papi92

    Oh and gsm is easier to maintain as they can open source it all unlike lte

    • mog386

      uh what?

      • papi92

        GSM radios are all open sources. LTE radios are not. Google needs to get permission from carriers for the LTE radios propitiatory(SP) files.

        • http://twitter.com/Mad_Llama Jeremy Gill

          I think everyone’s confusing LTE with CDMA. It’s CDMA that’s the problem and AT&T has a LTE network, too. Maybe T-Mobile in the not too distant future if the MetroPCS deal works out.

        • BulletTooth_Tony

          GSM (2G) isn’t open source per se, you need to be a member of the GSM Association to get access to it – though many of the original patents have expired… OpenBTS is, however, an open source GSM code, and it could very much be sued for patent violations but simply never has… it’s been a benefit to the ecosystem. W-CDMA (3G, aka UMTS) is also patented… the Google AOSP has all 3 GSM-A standard technologies within it.

          Think of the GSM Association in the same way as the DVD Forum and Blu Ray Association… the way they operate and determine standards together especially. You have multiple patent holders that alone are kinda useless, but implemented together create a whole, cohesive technology. As long as you’re a member and adhere to the rules, you can use all the patents. Open-source projects will then come along and make the code available… and FRAND kinda gets in the way of any recourse.

  • steve30x

    I dont understand a 16 gig at most no sd card slot..no thanks!

    • hkklife

      I’d rather have seen ‘em split the line like this: Instead of an 8Gb S4 Pro and a 16Gb S4 Pro, I’d rather have a 16Gb, 8mp camera S4 dual-core $299 cheapie and then a premium offering for, say, $399 unlocked with the S4 Pro, better camera, and 32Gb storage.

    • Trueblue711

      Agreed. If 16GB was to keep the cost low, include a SD slot to let us upgrade at our own will!!

      • http://andymerskin.com/ Andy Merskin

        Agreed.

    • Cowboydroid

      I consider myself a power user…my 32GB GNexus:

      1.64GB Apps
      133MB Pictures, videos
      220KB Audio
      253MB Downloads

      17.29GB Available

      All my music synced to Google Music. All my docs in Google Docs.

      Why do people still think they need massive amounts of storage? Get on the cloud train, or get left behind. Discover apps like Dropbox. Discover providers with unlimited data. If those things are important to you, you’ll get them.

      Otherwise, stick with Verizon and ATT and pay $100 a month for your 2GB and phone with massive storage.

      • Gregdobbs

        I do the same…but with a 32 GB nexus, how do you only have 17 GB left…That would completely fill a 16GB memory card

        • Cowboydroid

          I’m actually not sure. It says there is 28 GB available. Some of that is lost to the OS, some to caches. I also have a Nexus 7 8GB that still has 1.5GB left on it. Just enough for a movie if I wanted to download one for a flight. I can’t imagine what some of you are downloading that requires so much space, but regardless, you are a very, very small percent of users.

          • Cowboydroidbuttsecks

            “but regardless, you are a very, very small percent of users.” /facepalm You idiot! Quit telling people they are in the minority just because their opinions are different from yours. You know, I really think the Sega Genesis was the best console ever made. Ohhh you don’t? Well, you are definitely in a very, very small percent of individuals who doesn’t think so.

          • Cowboydroid

            Again with the name-calling. Stop being dense. They are factually in the minority, doesn’t have anything to do with opinion. Google is not going to cater to a tiny minority of users when they are trying to advance technology.

          • PhoenixPath

            “They are factually in the minority”

            Proof?? Still waiting…

          • perfectlyreasonabletoo

            >Again with the name-calling
            >Stop being dense

            It’s like baby’s first debate class.

          • Tony DoMonte

            honestly, I never comment on this site. I feel the need to ask you, ” what apps do you have installed?” all ur apps must be in the kb range. Installing just a few games takes a whole lot space. My room mate just installed Max Payne on his gs3. He also has nova 3, bad piggies, chrome, flipboard, pictures and music. all on his phone. This guy is by no means, tech savy. hes a john doe when it comes to computers. apparently, he uses more storage then a self proclaimed POWER USER. so storage is important and will become more so, when files and programs increase in size to accommodation for high resolutions of textures used in apps and video games. Its frustrating when you have to wait hours to upload all ur songs and pictures to Google drive because the phone keeps saying its low on storage and you cant install a program without sacrificing other programs or music. so ur the minority… douche bag :)

      • xsxkmsxSDAFPVIK

        My data plan is 50mb/month. Have some compassion for people in countries that are still laggin, Google!

        • Cowboydroid

          If you’re in a developing nation, you should be thankful already for Google providing an OS that allows OEMs to produce dirt-cheap smartphones for the developing world. You probably aren’t getting the Nexus if you live in a developing nation.

          • vanBrakitz

            Well you’re just an ignorant twat, aren’t you.

          • Cowboydroid

            Lol, name-calling without any justification…wonderful.

          • Jason Naylor

            He has plenty of justification

          • Cowboydroid

            Cool. Name one.

          • BhikkhuPharma

            …every comment you’ve made?

          • Cowboydroid

            Sorry, nope.

      • Jason Burch

        You can’t use the cloud if you can’t get a signal. Period. I have to put all the music and movies i wanted onto my Nexus when i went on my cruise last May.
        The SGS3 has 16GB internal plus an Micro SD slot. There is no reason not to include an SD slot.

        • Cowboydroid

          And what good is your cell phone in any regard if you can’t get a signal?

          You were on a cruise. You should leave your phone at home and relax and enjoy yourself. You can listen to music and watch movies whenever you want during regular life.

          There are many reasons to not include an SD slot. One is security. Another is the fact that you have an additional piece of hardware that needs supported.

          • Brian Barcus

            Sitting on the deck of a cruise ship seems like a good time for some music and every vacation needs down time when a movie might be welcome. Some people take their phone on vacation for the camera and that camera needs storage space. These devices are not just phones anymore – they are pocket size general purpose computers with plenty of uses when offline. I keep a large part of my Evernote database stored on the phone so I have access to important information even when offline. When I travel that include itinerary and all other documentation I might need while on the road. All of that requires local storage and has nothing whatsoever to do with talking on the phone.

          • DainLaguna

            So clear out some space before you go. Lol ‘how will i use my phone on my cruise later this year?’ Said no one ever except you.

          • BroRob

            I use mine offline for GPS, Phone, Camera, Camcorder and notes while camping and hiking. When you are in the woods with a 60lb pack having one device replace 4 or 5 is pretty nice. When I am back in the connected world I sync everything up, but I still need a decent amount of on-board storage until then. There are plenty of decent arguments for both. Your comment on security did make me chuckle a bit. If you are worried about the SD card being secure you probably shouldn’t have a camera, voice recorder, email, wifi, nfc or pretty much ANYTHING on the phone. You should just keep it in a faraday cage to make sure it’s secure!

          • Cowboydroid

            When I’m in the woods camping and hiking, I generally leave my technology behind and just enjoy nature. Otherwise, you might as well just stay in the city.

          • thebruce44

            There are tons of times I have a cell signal but weak or zero data and thats in Chicago. Subways, bars, movie theaters, my desk at work, my condo, I could go on…but I’m probably just in a small minority. I should probably just change my life to work with a phone that has no on board storage.

          • Cowboydroid

            Actually yeah, maybe you should think about changing networks to one that actually works, if you’re dropping signal all over the place. Mobile devices are connected devices. If you’re not going to be connected, it’s almost worthless.

      • TheCheapGamer

        I would totally ride the Cloud Train…if I had 4G!
        On 3G though, it’s still not worth it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/Aincalandorn Rory Stawart

        I would consider it with my 6gb/month if the CLOUD WAS AVAILABLE HERE (Only Google Drive, no Google Music or any other Google Cloud services)! And maybe I’d consider it more if I had LTE…

      • michael arazan

        I use my HD camera all the time, especially when I travel, i use drive, box, dropbox, skydrive and minus. I also pay for the 100gb for $5 for Gdrive, and still my phone has 24gb used because the hd videos use so much data and memory.10 minutes hd video is over a gig.

      • Apple pie

        iConsider you a stupid user !!
        for pic and vid only 133mb???

        • Cowboydroid

          It’s called the cloud, ignoramus.

          • Cherry Pie

            Now look who’s name-calling without justification… Hypocrite!

          • Cowboydroid

            I return in kind, Cherrie Pie.

      • PhoenixPath

        “Why do people still think they need massive amounts of storage?”

        …because they aren’t you. Shocking, I know, but believe it or not, there are folks out there who use their device differently than you.

        Some people don’t like to stream. Some people cannot. Some people have limited data. Some people don’t have constant access to a data network (wifi or “G”)…the list goes on.

        • Cowboydroid

          And believe it or not, it’s the folks like you that are in the minority.

          • PhoenixPath

            O RLY? I’d love to see how you came to that conclusion.

            Please, share your sources…

          • smoothy

            always +1 for orly owl.

          • thebruce44

            BS. I’d love to stream everything but my commute is on a subway like the majority of this huge city.

          • Jj2339

            that seems a very apple point of view. You are basically telling people that they need to conform to the ‘correct’ way to use it, vs the way android was set up, which is to give choices. I am super happy for you, that you are able to use it the way google wants us too. Guess for those who cannot use cloud for everything, we should go to apple, since they do give you ample space? Seems like your argument is the exact same as Steve jobs when he told a user, “you are holding it wrong”

          • Cowboydroid

            No, I’m saying that technology is moving forward, with or without you. Google is paving the way, don’t expect them to hold back for you. Android was “set up” by Google to make them a major player in mobile, not to cater to your whims.

          • jj2339

            So even though internal storage is cheap, and quite a few people want more internal storage, people use their devices more as a one-shop device (GPS, gamecenter, phone, MP3 player, camera, etc), and wireless industry is moving away from unlimited plans, it makes sense to give people less space (which is cheap) and make them use the cloud (which is not unlimited, nor 100% accessible) because ‘technology” is moving that way.

            I know you keep saying that “people who want space are in the minority”, but the fact that so many mobile devices these days come with significant steps up in internal storage, means that there IS a market for having dedicated storage. Going to have to go with what manufacturers are creating (which is based on actual research), vs your “thumb in the air” designation that, “yea, people don’t want space, they really don’t. And don’t hold your phone like that”

          • Cowboydroid

            Again, we’re talking about the NEXUS DEVICE. It has to be dirt cheap because it’s unsubsidized. Every little cut counts.

            The wireless industry is in flux. What the two largest carriers do with capped plans doesn’t necessarily dictate the trend of the industry. There are still two large carriers with unlimited data.

            Cloud storage capacity will increase. I have never even come close to my Gmail storage limit, and it keeps growing every year.

            Nobody is forcing you to purchase a Nexus. There are still OEMs that will cater to your storage needs.

            I would bet what Google’s choices are the ones that are based on actual research. They can see the stats that show just how much space people use on their device. Most users are not power users, and are not going to store 20GB of music and videos and several GBs of photos and documents on their device. That is self-evident.

          • perfectlyreasonabletoo

            nope

          • Cowboydroid

            Lol, Ok. I’m convinced.

          • perfectlyreasonabletoo

            The votes wouldn’t seem to agree with you brotato.

          • Cowboydroid

            “What is right is not always popular, and what is popular is not always right.”

      • MichaelFranz

        i have 2.19GB in Apps, 3.11 GB in photo, 199MB in downloads and 15GB available. Granted yes the photos could be put in the cloud but certain things i like having on demand and not havign to use data to view them. If there was nationwide coverage of 4G and not be at risk of being in a 2 bar, 3G area, i’d consider it.

        But the fact is as a true power user, and a ROM flasher, we need 32GB or at least an SD card

      • DainLaguna

        Watch it now, that opinion wont win you many friends round these parts ;-)

    • michael arazan

      Google wants to push Google Drive to people it seems and make it more popular, so it seems they are lowering storage in devices to get people to use it. The new chromebook this year is 16gb, nexus 7 / 8-16 gb, and now the phones too.

      Also, how much could it cost for an empty sd card slot?

      • RTR2011

        If I wanted a limited POS,with no removable storage and a non-removable battery, I’d get an eyephone.

      • MikeCiggy

        Think not about how much it costs, but how much room does it take up inside the device?

      • BroRob

        Everyone talks about Google pushing Google Drive which is great, but since there is no longer an unlimited data plan on Verizon I’m not thrilled about giving up my onboard storage and streaming everything through my 4GB a month SHARED plan.

      • KreeTerry

        I dont think its a matter of cost or space on the device as much as it is an user experience choice. I thnk i remember a while back were google stated they didnt want consumers having to decide between storing files on board or on sd card storage, they wanted it all to be one thing. Which is fine but when your the only one doing it you should realize that maybe thats not what your customers want

  • papi92

    who is surprised no lte. This will be gsm for tmobile and att and sold directly thru google play store. No verizon as verizon is a hog.

    • omgitzjose

      except ATT uses LTE now too so its just as bad as apple releasing the iphone with 2G when every phone was coming out with 3G

      • http://twitter.com/DannyAree DannyAree ? ツ 

        hspa+

        • mog386

          HSPA+ is a high latency network. While speeds can theoretically be comparable, the latency is not.

          • http://twitter.com/DannyAree DannyAree ? ツ 

            /CutsSelf /: I guess all we can hope for is a miracle on Google having an LTE version.

          • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

            83ms on HSPA+ from T-Mobile disagrees with you.

          • William_Morris

            I haven’t gotten that low… gotten 163 before. But I’ve also seen 16-1800 too.

            I’m definitely considering switching since it would save me a bit of money.

            I just wish that Tmo had their HSPA+ where I work. Only Edge there… but at least I can make phone calls inside my building where Verizon can’t.

          • mog386

            83ms on HSPA+ is pretty low for HSPA+ and reflects best case scenario situations. LTE consistently puts up latency numbers in the low 20s and best case scenarios are in the low teens. Which are a pretty big difference.

          • Diablo81588

            That latecy is VERY rare. LTE has much better latency than HSPA+, and upload speed is night and day as well.
            http://www.rpad.tv/2011/12/21/t-mobile-hspa-42-vs-verizon-lte/

          • Richard

            33ms on LTE from Verizon snickers at you shooting yourself in the foot

          • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

            With one bar of service and getting 83ms on HSPA+ is pretty damn good. When I have three bars, it drops down to 30ms, so take that!

            I also do have Verizon LTE service, and they are pretty equal on that front, though it is slower to connect to LTE than it should be…

          • Richard

            Lol

        • omgitzjose

          its still old tech and isnt the nexus supposed to be a “super phone”, the next great cutting edge that every other android strives to be?

          • AndroidUser00110001

            Nexus was never meant to be a super phone. Just a basic hardware reference design…

          • Tim242

            Ummm no. Nexus phones release with the latest version of Android, but the hardware/specs are usually last gen.

    • http://twitter.com/Mad_Llama Jeremy Gill

      AT&T has a LTE network and T-Mobile will eventually.

    • http://twitter.com/adrynalyne Adrynalyne

      Its an S4. It supports LTE. The radios are not separate.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001458670467 Tyler Cameron

        You have to have antennas too! -.-

      • Leo

        Sooo could this phone eventually support LTE? Wouldn’t it need the antennas as well?

  • TheCheapGamer

    8GB? That is a fail.
    Even with an SD card slot, I wouldn’t get less than 16GB on board.

  • James Jun

    ..isn’t that a strange resolution? And that bottom/top bezel……

    • http://twitter.com/NovembersDirge The Observer

      If i’m not mistaken, the onscreen keys account for the ‘missing pixels’ that would equal 720 x 1280.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=500698751 Paul Hansen

        this. i was going to post it but you beat me to it.

        • http://twitter.com/kashtrey Trey W

          The 768 has nothing to do with the software buttons though and makes this a 16:10 aspect ratio device rather than 16:9 which would be 720p (720×1280). I don’t mind added pixel density though.

      • mog386

        except for the fact that 768×1280 is still an odd resolution it’s 1.666 (5:3) as opposed to 720×1280 being 1.777 (16:9)… WXGA is a damn retarded resultion…

  • http://www.youtube.com/MKBHD Marques Brownlee

    Please have a huge battery
    Please have a huge battery

    Please have a huge battery

    Please have a huge battery

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=500698751 Paul Hansen

      Dude, it’s not a nexus maxx :P

      • Matthew Merrick

        sadly

      • nightscout13

        All these OEM’s should learn by now, consumers like to keep phone unplugged. The more the phone is plugged in, the less time I can spend with it. That is a deal breaker from now on.

        • http://twitter.com/nklenchik Nick Klenchik

          You can’t use your phone while it’s charging? :P strange

          • nightscout13

            Where I work, I’m not stationary, I have to move around, and when my battery is low, I have to charge the phone at office.

      • kixofmyg0t

        It’s not Occam ;)

    • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

      I love me a huge battery…errr.

      • descendency

        i love big batteries, I can not lie.

        • Aardvark99

          Baby got bacxx?

        • JustTrollin69

          You other brothers can’t deny.

          • sergio

            Motorola………………pending

            Samsung……………..pending

            HTC…………………….pending

            Sony……………………pending

            LG………………………denied

          • http://www.facebook.com/edgar.gordon Edgar Gordon

            my thoughts exactly

          • http://www.getintonursing.com/ Jon

            That when a phone walks in with an itty bitty waste and 2800 milli-amps in your face …You get sprung!

          • acras

            waist

          • PuzzleShot

            Nah, the amount of battery it wastes is itty-bitty.

      • https://twitter.com/#!/fitman88 Fitman88

        Kellex, you should hire MKBHD!

    • http://twitter.com/DannyAree DannyAree ? ツ 

      MKBHD :D

    • Jroc869, Cool story bro

      Thats what she said?

    • http://www.facebook.com/edgar.gordon Edgar Gordon

      MKBHD :)

    • http://them3blog.wordpress.com/ Abel

      sup! :D better to say Please have a huge battery life :P

    • alex drum

      I like big batteries I can not lie, you other brothers can’t deny!

    • EnterTheNexus

      Marques :D Make a video about this!

    • mikeym0p

      I’d rather removable, isn’t GS3 battery 2100mAh? Thats pretty good for removable.
      I guess if the internal battery was easy to service I wouldn’t mind, I mean the screws are exposed.

      • Cowboydroid

        How about a battery so large that you don’t have to remove it?

        Mind-blowing, I know.

        • mikeym0p

          I like to replace the battery with a fresh one after the first year with the device. It makes a noticeable difference.

          • Cowboydroid

            I’ve never noticed a difference like that…I rarely keep devices more than a year, though.

    • JulianZHuang

      2100 same as samsung extended battery, i called.

    • Apple pie

      you seem to be desperate !

    • http://www.youtube.com/sashundera91 Sashundera Prime.

      LOL +1

    • Roberto Taylor

      No LTE chip? I’m confused…

      • JoshGroff

        GSM unlocked version… Why include something that won’t work with most carriers if you’re trying to keep the cost down? If VZW, Sprint, or AT&T get their hands on it, they will throw in an LTE chip, that much you can be sure of.