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	<title>Comments on: Letter From Verizon to FCC Details Their Stance on Bootloaders</title>
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		<title>By: jordan none</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/29/letter-from-verizon-to-fcc-details-their-stance-on-bootloaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1534828</link>
		<dc:creator>jordan none</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 08:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[your a dick, most average users that can figure out how to root their phones usually stumble on how to SBF their devices as well. fyi the more intelligent you try to look only proves to show how dumb your really are &quot;retail sales employer&quot; perhaps you mean sales associate? the prick who offers no support but tells you where to sign the new contract, furthermore your incorrect usage of &quot;indespensible&quot; is laughable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your a dick, most average users that can figure out how to root their phones usually stumble on how to SBF their devices as well. fyi the more intelligent you try to look only proves to show how dumb your really are &#8220;retail sales employer&#8221; perhaps you mean sales associate? the prick who offers no support but tells you where to sign the new contract, furthermore your incorrect usage of &#8220;indespensible&#8221; is laughable.</p>
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		<title>By: Troll Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troll Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 09:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trolls should learn how to proof-read their trollings.... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trolls should learn how to proof-read their trollings&#8230;. </p>
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		<title>By: Brownstone706</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/29/letter-from-verizon-to-fcc-details-their-stance-on-bootloaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1473339</link>
		<dc:creator>Brownstone706</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 07:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To the looser who has nothing better to do than whine about bootloaders, GET A LIFE!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the looser who has nothing better to do than whine about bootloaders, GET A LIFE!</p>
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		<title>By: likemyphone</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/29/letter-from-verizon-to-fcc-details-their-stance-on-bootloaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1470307</link>
		<dc:creator>likemyphone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[EVERYONE, needs to speak up and be heard on this.  This is not a matter of not only what they convey BUT rather, your rights being taken away as a consumer.  When we purchase a device, we should have the right to customize it as we choose.  IT is not effecting the carrier, it only effects us, the user.  It&#039;s like buying a car and being told that you can&#039;t change the stereo, deck out the interior or replace the rims with nice chrome custom rims. WE THE PEOPLE need to stand up to big corporations and stop this, before it&#039;s to late.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EVERYONE, needs to speak up and be heard on this.  This is not a matter of not only what they convey BUT rather, your rights being taken away as a consumer.  When we purchase a device, we should have the right to customize it as we choose.  IT is not effecting the carrier, it only effects us, the user.  It&#8217;s like buying a car and being told that you can&#8217;t change the stereo, deck out the interior or replace the rims with nice chrome custom rims. WE THE PEOPLE need to stand up to big corporations and stop this, before it&#8217;s to late.</p>
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		<title>By: jacksmind</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/29/letter-from-verizon-to-fcc-details-their-stance-on-bootloaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1469983</link>
		<dc:creator>jacksmind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is a silly argument.  I  used to work as a computer tech supporting the hardware of some PC manufacturers, but not the software.   We always had the resort to restore the system.  We&#039;d say, &quot;I can fix it, but you&#039;re going to lose all your personal info. That&#039;s the choice you made when you started experimenting.&quot;   You can do the same here.  Sure the tech can fix it, but you&#039;re going to get a factory wipe and reset.  The cost to VZ would be so minutely small (for a tech to go plug in the phone and press a few buttons, that you have to wonder what the real motivation is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a silly argument.  I  used to work as a computer tech supporting the hardware of some PC manufacturers, but not the software.   We always had the resort to restore the system.  We&#8217;d say, &#8220;I can fix it, but you&#8217;re going to lose all your personal info. That&#8217;s the choice you made when you started experimenting.&#8221;   You can do the same here.  Sure the tech can fix it, but you&#8217;re going to get a factory wipe and reset.  The cost to VZ would be so minutely small (for a tech to go plug in the phone and press a few buttons, that you have to wonder what the real motivation is.</p>
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		<title>By: schwinn8</title>
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		<dc:creator>schwinn8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 12:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed that others aren&#039;t capable of learning such things. Again, don&#039;t cater to their stupidity. Make them learn. As I described, it works for the PC vendors, where there are MANY more owners... so it can work here. It may suck at first, but eventually, they will learn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed that others aren&#8217;t capable of learning such things. Again, don&#8217;t cater to their stupidity. Make them learn. As I described, it works for the PC vendors, where there are MANY more owners&#8230; so it can work here. It may suck at first, but eventually, they will learn.</p>
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		<title>By: jacksmind</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/29/letter-from-verizon-to-fcc-details-their-stance-on-bootloaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1469376</link>
		<dc:creator>jacksmind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 08:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PC makers should lock down the bios and boot so that people cant mess with their installs, after all that the manufacturer money when people try and mess with it. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PC makers should lock down the bios and boot so that people cant mess with their installs, after all that the manufacturer money when people try and mess with it. </p>
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		<title>By: balthuszar</title>
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		<dc:creator>balthuszar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 19:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[everyone else can&#039;t learn this because they are stuck on themselves, and think the world owes them something...it only takes one moron to ruin it for everyone]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>everyone else can&#8217;t learn this because they are stuck on themselves, and think the world owes them something&#8230;it only takes one moron to ruin it for everyone</p>
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		<title>By: Helloimamac</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/29/letter-from-verizon-to-fcc-details-their-stance-on-bootloaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1467509</link>
		<dc:creator>Helloimamac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 18:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hahahahahahahahaha. Thank you Motorola for your corporation. The majority of Android users who Root their devices don&#039;t have a clue what they are doing and furthermore end up boot looping or bricking their device anyway and come crying to me the retail sales employer, to fix their issue. If you don&#039;t like Moto then go with one of the other 9,482 indespensible second hand android devices out there. Or use your head and go with the only phone that draws 4 day crowds on their launch. Yeah, I&#039;m a Mac, and proud of it.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahahahahahahahaha. Thank you Motorola for your corporation. The majority of Android users who Root their devices don&#8217;t have a clue what they are doing and furthermore end up boot looping or bricking their device anyway and come crying to me the retail sales employer, to fix their issue. If you don&#8217;t like Moto then go with one of the other 9,482 indespensible second hand android devices out there. Or use your head and go with the only phone that draws 4 day crowds on their launch. Yeah, I&#8217;m a Mac, and proud of it.  </p>
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		<title>By: Jwhap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jwhap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 14:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wasn&#039;t the incredible one of Verizon&#039;s more popular phones?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t the incredible one of Verizon&#8217;s more popular phones?</p>
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		<title>By: The Pip</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/29/letter-from-verizon-to-fcc-details-their-stance-on-bootloaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1466421</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 14:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;continue to reach a “standard of excellence in customer service” that they have set.&#039;  How ironic of a statement since it&#039;s a &quot;reach&quot; for Verizon to claim they have any customer service.  Or maybe I&#039;m just thinking of the poor service when we moved in August and tried to keep them as our service provider.  I could be remembering the hours on hold with tech support only to be transferred five times to other areas that claimed I should be talking with tech support. It just might be the 9 hang-ups on over 16 calls during the month of August to get some sort of resolution.

Verizon as a monopoly is the worst game in town.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;continue to reach a “standard of excellence in customer service” that they have set.&#8217;  How ironic of a statement since it&#8217;s a &#8220;reach&#8221; for Verizon to claim they have any customer service.  Or maybe I&#8217;m just thinking of the poor service when we moved in August and tried to keep them as our service provider.  I could be remembering the hours on hold with tech support only to be transferred five times to other areas that claimed I should be talking with tech support. It just might be the 9 hang-ups on over 16 calls during the month of August to get some sort of resolution.</p>
<p>Verizon as a monopoly is the worst game in town.</p>
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		<title>By: schwinn8</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/29/letter-from-verizon-to-fcc-details-their-stance-on-bootloaders/comment-page-1/#comment-1465997</link>
		<dc:creator>schwinn8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Clearly, you didn&#039;t read my response completely. Like I said, this happens on PCs all the time. People call Dell, HP, and other such support lines because their software isn&#039;t working. The PC vendors  already take these calls, and tell users to restore their computers to original spec. And this is on a platform INTENDED to install other software applications. The point is, if it can be done there, then it can be done here.

The DIFFERENCE is that here, you are NOT supposed to replace the OS. Once people learn the risks of this, and learn to READ directions (and realize that these things can happen) they will stop calling. You knew this, so why can&#039;t everyone else learn this?

You &quot;can&#039;t fix stupid&quot;... but you shouldn&#039;t cater to it either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Clearly, you didn&#8217;t read my response completely. Like I said, this happens on PCs all the time. People call Dell, HP, and other such support lines because their software isn&#8217;t working. The PC vendors  already take these calls, and tell users to restore their computers to original spec. And this is on a platform INTENDED to install other software applications. The point is, if it can be done there, then it can be done here.</p>
<p>The DIFFERENCE is that here, you are NOT supposed to replace the OS. Once people learn the risks of this, and learn to READ directions (and realize that these things can happen) they will stop calling. You knew this, so why can&#8217;t everyone else learn this?</p>
<p>You &#8220;can&#8217;t fix stupid&#8221;&#8230; but you shouldn&#8217;t cater to it either.</p>
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		<title>By: R.J.</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/29/letter-from-verizon-to-fcc-details-their-stance-on-bootloaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1464733</link>
		<dc:creator>R.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 00:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got one of these form letters too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got one of these form letters too.</p>
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		<title>By: balthuszar</title>
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		<dc:creator>balthuszar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 23:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[if you want to pay someone to sit by all day/night and answer phone calls from people who borked their phone by hacking it...then so be it...i sure don&#039;t...i hacked my ogd, and borked it on numerous occasions...do i miss hacking? in the rom sense? no...but i have rooted my razr, only to be able to use some apps and to delete bloat...when i had my ogd, if i hacked some rom onto it, and it borked it...i wouldnt have dreamed of calling vzw because i did something that i &quot;shouldnt have&quot; and thus i have to suffer the consequences...that doesnt mean everyone else feels the same way, and i dont feel like paying a phone rep to sit around and answer phone calls from people that hacked something onto their phone and borked it...having said that, i believe you should have the freedom to hack to your hearts content, but it&#039;s not a right]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you want to pay someone to sit by all day/night and answer phone calls from people who borked their phone by hacking it&#8230;then so be it&#8230;i sure don&#8217;t&#8230;i hacked my ogd, and borked it on numerous occasions&#8230;do i miss hacking? in the rom sense? no&#8230;but i have rooted my razr, only to be able to use some apps and to delete bloat&#8230;when i had my ogd, if i hacked some rom onto it, and it borked it&#8230;i wouldnt have dreamed of calling vzw because i did something that i &#8220;shouldnt have&#8221; and thus i have to suffer the consequences&#8230;that doesnt mean everyone else feels the same way, and i dont feel like paying a phone rep to sit around and answer phone calls from people that hacked something onto their phone and borked it&#8230;having said that, i believe you should have the freedom to hack to your hearts content, but it&#8217;s not a right</p>
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		<title>By: Ric Desan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ric Desan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 21:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm I avoided Verizon for all the apparant reasons but used to think pretty highly of Motorola but now (snap) we have a crashed and burned brand that can shove their units up unpleasant places. They better be glad Google took pity on them for their patents because it sounds like they are marching toward Nokia style smartphone irrelevancy.

Good luck Schmucks, you&#039;ll need it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm I avoided Verizon for all the apparant reasons but used to think pretty highly of Motorola but now (snap) we have a crashed and burned brand that can shove their units up unpleasant places. They better be glad Google took pity on them for their patents because it sounds like they are marching toward Nokia style smartphone irrelevancy.</p>
<p>Good luck Schmucks, you&#8217;ll need it.</p>
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