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Motorola Dinara to Follow the DROID Bionic, May Be One of the First Android Super Phones?

There is this empty space for devices in 2011 after the DROID Bionic that needs to be filled, and we haven’t heard a peep about any of it from any of our sources.  Well until now.  We may have just received word on Moto’s next super or “flagship” phone that is currently scheduled for a winter release and will surely fill up some “space” or at the very least, bring in some good chatter.

We’ve been told that the Motorola Dinara (codename of course) is the next big thing.  It’s still under development, but currently has an “HD” screen, 13MP rear camera, VGA front, and an internal/non-removable battery.  It will look almost identical to the Bionic in styling, but will end up as a much slimmer and lighter device.  It’s running Gingerbread still since no one has Ice Cream Sandwich yet and should be here by this winter.  No word on the processor or RAM.

Update:  A couple of additional details have been mentioned to us:  TI processor, 1GB RAM, bigger screen than the Bionic (same device size, but screen closer to the edge), lock button on the side (a la Samsung), and the internal battery has not been a problem.

There is a chance that it could end up on multiple carriers, but it’s currently being tested on Verizon’s network.  We weren’t told if it’ll be 4G LTE or not – how could it not be though?

Oh, and I should point out that “Dinara” is the name of a mountain range, something Motorola has been known to use on their higher end devices.  Anyone remember the Olympus, Everest, and Etna?

We’ve definitely flagged this as a rumor, since these things all seem to change oh so regularly.  The end of the year is pretty far away in mobile time.

The hypebeast machine has been turned back on.

Cheers ___!

  • OG Droid

    I want no part of a phone that is involved with AT&T.

  • PowersUSA

    Yeah my “next gen” device will have a VG -Fing – A front camera. Guess there is not much hope for the Bionic having a nice front camera. I still like to take the occasional self portrait and that is near impossible to do with a touch screen only device (Bionic will not have a dedicated camera button). This is where a decent front shooter can help make up for the lack of camera button. 

  • BJ P.

    what happened to droid targa(?)..?? i’m waiting for that..

    • http://twitter.com/NemaCystX NemaCystX

      This IS the Targa

      • Anonymous

        The Bionic is the new name for Targa

        • http://twitter.com/NemaCystX NemaCystX

          The NEW Bionic is using the OLD Targa’s design, the NEW Targa (since they changed the device from its original design) is the new Dinara which would have been the Targa.

          The Bionic’s code name is Targa because it used the old Targa design, it WAS Etna until the redesign.

  • Anonymous

    A NON-removable battery? Ehh…no thanks. I’d rather get a bit lesser phone that has a removable battery over a much greater phone that has a non-removable battery.

    Thanks, but no thanks! (Also, still waiting on that Bionic system dumb…anyone?)

  • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

    You have to be kidding me lol… Just when you think the bionic is it they do this

  • Rich Floresjr

    If it’s quad core that’ll be my phone. I have an upgrade in December and another in April. My OG DX has new life now that I put the Liberty mod on here and clocked it to 1.3ghz lol. I see no reason to not wait for the big boys towards the end of this year/beginning of next year.

  • Buckgrad

    Non-removable battery? No thanks…

  • Anonymous

    Anyone want to get the D3 now?

    From the AMAZING keyboard to the great size screen, I may have to get it now.
    I am sure the Bionic will have better specs, but I have waited long enough.

    • PowersUSA

      D3 screen = barely “OK”, not great. I use a mostly green background and it likes like a checker board mess when I tested on the X2. The D3 is slightly better than the X2 due to its the higher pixel density (same resolution on a smaller screen = more pixels per inch). Now compare the D3 screen to the Sensation for example and you will see that it simply not as nice.

      • Anonymous

        Still.
        Id take a screen that nothing special over a non removable battery….

  • The Droid Abides

    There’s a poster on HoFo who’s actually seen the Dinara.  He originally thought it was the Bionic but when he took a closer look yesterday to report back on specs/os version he found out it was actually the Dinara and this particular model was headed for AT&T.  He described it as being a pretty large phone, noticeably bigger than a DX, but with a 4.3″ screen still due to a wide bezel. 

  • http://twitter.com/NemaCystX NemaCystX

    The specs of this device sound almost identical to the new Targa, the new Bionic is the old Targa if everyone recalls the design swap.  The Targa has the 13mp camera according to those leaked images of a very svelt device, so slim it rivals the Galaxy SII. But the screen size is unknown.  The design for the back is almost identical to the new Bionic but the front its alot different.  It almost looks like a G2x from LG thats currently on the T-Mobile network (front of the design that is)

    Remember this beauty?  http://i1.phonearena.com/images/articles/38712-image/verizon-motorola-Targa.jpg  
    The leaked Targa render that said about the 13MP AF camera

  • Derek Stiles

    Why would I want a non-removable battery?  I always carry a spare with me just in case.

    • j07

      a non removable battery can be bigger and last longer, plus they can fit it in anywhere they can maximize space.  the end result is usually a much larger capacity battery.  its the same reason apple doesn’t have removable parts, it creates more space within the device.  it sucks if you want to be able to remove batteries, but for the vast majority of users it makes sense.

      • Earleepa

        BS!

      • Anonymous

        For the vast majority of users, the battery deteriorates around the 1yr mark and cant hold a charge anymore. They better adopt a better battery if theyre locking it in. I have 2 spare batteries for my Droid, and rarely ever use it. But on some days when i anticipate heavy usage, I’ll be on my last battery before the day is done.

        30% more battery life is great on a daily basis (when you usually have an outlet or a charger around), but is useless on days when Im spending the day @ the zoo w my kids, taking pictures all day in the sun w screen brightness on maximum, and highly likely doing some Google+ Album uploading.

      • Anonymous

        People in my office have iphones and their battery life sucks, they need a charge inside of three quarters of the day. So yeah, a removable battery is good especially on the go. 

  • http://twitter.com/Rocko9999 Rocko Smith

    I would take a high quality 5mp camera with a nice lense over a crap 13mp camera any day.

    • PowersUSA

      Amen to that.

    • T Hall

      Totally agree.  Problem is too many people think megapixels means everything.  People have to remember how small that lens is…

    • Anonymous

      So I guess you prefer the geebees to the empees?

  • DroidTre

    Non-removable battery *scratches head. Am I suppose to be excited about that? 

    • TheAndroid1

      Sometimes integrated batteries can be larger so they will last longer, think macbook pro.

      • Earleepa

        Think maybe you’re not near a charger when you need one.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=662761387 Nader Elkurd

          Think you won’t need the charger because the battery lasts an incredibly long time. But also think of all the  times you’ve needed to do a battery pull, especially with custom roms.

        • shr1k3r

          if you’re carrying a back up battery, you can easily carry a battery powered charger… or an extended battery case

      • Anonymous

        Yea but the iTouch doesn’t have a removable battery, and once mine froze. Nothing worked and I wasn’t by a computer to restore it. Its a huge pain in the ass….

        It would be ridiculous to not have one. No extended batteries? What if you need a battery pull when installing a ROM? 

        This would be the reason I pass on the Bionic. 

      • Anonymous

        I’ll have to agree with this, My asus transformer has an internal battery and that thing gets about 9 hours of usage at 1.4 GHz.

  • GotSka81

    Really?  This is the next “superphone”?  Sounds more like a phone that adds more features that no one wants.  Non-removable battery?  No thanks.  And on a different note, can we stop chasing after ridiculously high megapixel cameras and pursue making the pictures not look like crap?  High megapixels does not mean good pictures.  And finally…VGA still?  Talk about hardware from my first flip phone.

    • http://iamandroid.co/profile/rocktoonz Rocktoonz

      It’s the same camera they used in the Razr :D

    • Anonymous

      So true. My voyager took better pic’s then my OG Droid does. And that was with a 2.3 megapixel camera. My droid has a 5 in it. For shame.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=662761387 Nader Elkurd

      Your’re right. High megapixels is not related directly to outstanding pictures. But when implemented correctly with good software amazing photos are produced. Google “Nokia N8 photo samples”

      • Anonymous

        Those pictures are gorgeous!  I certainly don’t have any problem with higher megapixel cameras, but it’s clear that manufacturers are pursuing higher megapixels so they can claim a higher number than everyone else…most times at the expense of quality.

  • caseyisajim

    I’m waiting for the Motorola St. Helens.

    • The Observer

      Motorola Krakatoa FTW!

    • Anonymous

      The Motorola Vesuvius!

      • Steen Kendle

        I like K2

      • Legoturte92

        Motorolla Eyjafjallajokull

        • Anonymous

          haha…now pronounce it

  • Anonymous

    Same device as the photos by the Droid HD via Pocketnow? Btw, that’s apparently the codename for AT&T version according to a guy at HoFo.

  • digsoreos

    I hear if you “bump” two of these phones together, what’s displayed on one screen is doubled to fit onto both screens simultaneously. Bump two more of these phones together and you’ve got close to a tablet-sized display. /rumor

  • Anonymous

    They should worry about getting the Bionic to market first. Continuing to tease the “next big thing” only paralyzes the consumer that doesn’t want to buy (borderline) obsolescence.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jeremy.goldstone Jeremy Goldstone

    13 megapixels with crap camera phone optics is overkill. It’s putting racing tires on a Ford Focus. The number is big, so it sounds awesome, but all it means is you get really big image files taken with crap optics.

    But as someone else said, non-removable battery, WTF?

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the new rumor tip. Moto is testing its newest flagship phone before releasing the Bionic? Really boosts my confidence in the Bionic… not.
    The real problem as I see it is thus, it is all about the Blur and not the Android. If these manufacturers ran Android instead of their BS version, I am sure the bugs would be fewer and be released quicker!!

    • digsoreos

      I agree. Remove the Blur and then you would have the interest of most of those willing to pay the costs of an early upgrade. Hence, more money in their pockets, more good-will and loyalty among customers.

    • http://twitter.com/NemaCystX NemaCystX

      Ice Cream is supposed to remedy this.  It will allow OEM’s to keep there skin or features and still have the same functionality as stock Android.  Honeycomb currently has no custom skins even when Samsung launches TouchWIZ UX it won’t change the look of it entirely. It will have a little splash of custom UI just like the Transformer from ASUS had.  Thats just an example of how Google is making sure they don’t screw with Honeycomb and Ice Cream is supposed to merge the two and they already said at IO there going to work with the OEM’s to ensure updates and functionality remain the same across the board of all those devices.  We should be glad its not like Windows Phone 7 with its extremely strict UI restrictions. There are some UI’s out there that make it easier for new users to use the devices. Sense being one of them.  If anything, Google should allow two different UI’s on the devices.  an option to have Stock Android or OEM skinned Android while both retaining the same exact features minus the OEM added ones.

  • Funkybeat101

    This sounds like the phone everyone thought was the Bionic. Pics were released a few months back it was said to have 13mp rear camera and vga front facing.

  • LivinFree

    If it comes with a non-removable battery they can keep it. Dumbest thing on planet earth to do. Specially seeing as they can’t get decent battery life out of a smartphoen running LTE. That said I want an option to be able to swap batteries if need be. Many time folks are not near or around a charger so this idea is ABSOLUTELY terrible.

  • Bib

    Toshiba HD screen, 2gb ram, 2ghz tegra 3 quad core. Simple, just do it.

  • digsoreos

    At last, the death knell rings for that oh-so-helpful bit of tech support advice: “Have you tried a battery pull?” 

  • Zebra

    So it’s basically the Bionic with [I’m guessing] slightly better hardware and an improved form factor, at the major sacrifice of no battery access? I’ll pass. Give me the Bionic and then an Ice Cream sandwich phone next year.

  • chmcclellan

    Could this be the 2 GHz phone Sanjay referenced for 2010 release?  If it has nfc and 4g it could compete with the nexus prime.

    • Zach

      No he was just confused and thought 1Ghz dual core meant 2Ghz.

  • Sickofwaitingforthebionic

    I bet its the original targa (before the bionic was changed to targa)  
    http://www.geekblog.net/the-leaked-motorola-targa-is-going-to-be-similar-to-the-atrix-4g/

  • Zach

    Thought Winston25(on the howard forums) said this wasn’t a Verizon phone and someone who has it says it’s a AT&T phone, Dinara that is.

  • Anonymous

    I’m pretty sure this is for AT&T, not Verizon. 

  • Bullet Tooth Tony

    There’s really nothing “super” about these rumored specs… A VGA camera? 3.3mp front-facer or bust… 3.3 is 1080p video recording… 13mp back camera?  You’d be better off with carrying around an LG Dare for pictures with how poor the sensors are that Moto uses… if we’re going to throw around the “super” tag, it should at least be top of the line in every respect when it drops.  So far, it’s not even close.

    • Anonymous

      Amen to that. Moto cam sensors suck hard.

  • Anonymous

    A 13MP cam packed into a tiny cameraphone sensor makes me wary…there’s no way it’ll be good quality unless they increase the size of the sensor also, and considering it’s supposed to be thinner than the Bionic, which isn’t thick to start with.

  • Illegitimi non Carborundum

    You think they would wait until post-Bionic so we all jump on the Bionic and then get device envy and buy the new beast come winter…

  • Anonymous

    All I want for Christmas is a Super Device that has pure Google, with next years technology in it. Oh and no Bloatware and make the GS2 look likes it’s standing still. :P

    • Rich Floresjr

      I’m with you on that.

    • Anonymous

      Yes, Moto has yet to give us another phone that has come even remotely close to what the original Droid did for Android and VZW. They tried everything except what made the original Droid the go-to Android phone of its time.

  • http://twitter.com/rkein87 Rob Kein

    Vaporware.

  • Teng247

    non removable battery?  WTF

    • Anonymous

      Thats the thing that scares me…

    • http://twitter.com/jbernard703 Jeff Bernard

      Seriously? Removing your battery is one of the most overhyped “features” on a smartphone. 

      • Anonymous

        Not really. You can have extras, an extended battery, and have the battery pull option if something goes wrong.

        What if I am installing a ROM and it freezes? No more Bionic for you. 

      • Stephen

        Completely disagree.  Putting an extended battery in my phone was the best purchase I have made in a while.  Unless the phone gets 2 full days of use out of the box like my current phone then having a non-removable battery would be a non-starter for me.

      • No.

        Like hell it is- the option of using extended batteries and swapping out spent batteries is HUGE for me and has saved my bacon more times than I can count.

      • 1loudLS

        when the worse happens and you spill something on your phone, taking the battery out right away is the number one thing you can do to increase the chances of your phone surviving.

  • http://www.facebook.com/COOOOOOOOOOOOOOP Brad W. Cooper

    I want the dam Bionic to be released. I have had my upgraded since aug of 2010. Why won’t it drop already. GEEZ!!

    • Zebra

      At this point you could have used your upgrade then and had another now. It’s a shame the annual upgrade was discontinued. 

  • Anonymous

    Non-removable battery is worrisome… I like my ability to remove and/or replace batteries on the fly when needed – esp when your device locks for w/e reason and it needs a good battery pull. AND there goes the EXTENDED BATTERY and EXTRA BATTERY sales for the crowd that feeds on those. Just seems… dumb. But hey, “DUMB” has been the definition of Motorola for how long now? Yeah. Carry on.

    • http://iamandroid.co/profile/rocktoonz Rocktoonz

      I hope that Apple hasn’t patented non-removable batteries or Moto may get sued!  /sarcasm

      • Tesseract 3

        lol.

    • TheAndroid1

      As long as it gets me through the day i couldn’t care less.  The inability to do a battery pull worries me though.  Plus, if the back wasn’t removable, would they still put in a micro sd slot on the side of the phone or lose it altogether?

      • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

        they would have a hard reset procedure if there is no battery….ex xoom if you press vol up and power it hard resets it…if you ever get stuck

        • Anonymous

          Same thing with the Asus Transformer. They’d probably just put the card slot on the side, I can’t imaging them doing away with MicroSD cards.

          • hkklife

            Why not? Samsung’s Nesus S has done away with microSD support already and several Honeycomb tablets do not have slots (LG’s tablet and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 come immediately to mind). Plus, Honeycomb doesn’t officially support removable storage unless it’s 3.2 and Moto Xoom 3G users are still awaiting their updates.

            SD-less. No, I think Google is gradually moving to an Apple-like, unexpandable storage future, maybe as soon as Ice Cream or the “J” era.

          • Anonymous

            Untrue, My Asus Transformer came with Honeycomb 3.0 and it has MicroSD card support, The Xoom was just lagging behind with support for some reason. Just because a few devices don’t have support for it doesn’t mean its going to be the future.

  • http://facebook.com/gotmurph Ben Murphy

    What’s the Bionic again? :-)

  • http://facebook.com/gotmurph Ben Murphy

    What’s the Bionic again? :-)

  • Anonymous

    I paid $32.67 for a XBOX 360 and my mom got a 17 inch Toshiba laptop for $94.83 being delivered to our house tomorrow by FedEX. I will never again pay expensive retail prices at stores. I even sold a 46 inch HDTV to my boss for $650 and it only cost me $52.78 to get. Here is the website we using to get all this stuff, GrabPenny.com

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Emaw-Kennedy/504157652 Michael Emaw Kennedy

    I will not be using my upgrade until i get a phone with an nfc chip, I see this as becoming a big thing and will not be left behind. :D

  • Kevoskee

    Hypebeastin is back huh? Once the Bionic drops finally and I see pictures of this device later this year, then I will be interested.

  • http://twitter.com/Scores87 Ed

    I heard Dinara was for AT&T

  • http://www.droid-life.com Tim-o-tato

    13MP?!? Are they shooting billboards with that thing? 

    • http://profiles.google.com/scott.strool Scott Strool

      This is not a phone, its a camera that makes phone calls ;-)
      When will Nikon make a phone???

    • tbaybe

      considering, the only camera i use is my phone… higher end cameras are a plus to me! 

      • Dave

        Sadly, more pixels does not necessarily equate to improved image quality.

    • Anonymous

      EH, billboards are printed at under 30 dpi.

  • http://twitter.com/tittlemanscrest Stephen Parker

    Whaaaaaa?! A 13MP camera?? That’s ridiculous. 

  • http://emuneee.com Evan

    I think its safe to say someone has ICS (besides Google).  ;-)

  • Dash Speeds

    So, if the planned release is winter we should expect it roughly by 2013?

    • Dash Speeds

      I’m sick the of waiting game anyway, the OG was outdated within months and its served me pretty well.

      • Anonymous

        Agreed, I bought mine when it was arguably already outdated(X was out already I think), and I’m still loving it.  It’s been running kinda crappy lately, but Trey of MIUI convinced me in the comments the other day to try his port.  We will see if that works.

        • cmbdds

          I just installed the latest MIUI on my wife’s OG and it runs pretty well, although not as well as the latest Project Elite (which was on it previously).  MIUI is definitely the pretties ROM out there, though, and has some great features.

          • Yte13

            Do you know of a way to get the MIUI Camera on Project Elite? I tried Miui but didnt like it.

      • Jason Frasier

        I tried MIUI but for some reason it just didn’t get along with my phone.  I decided to try Liquid Gingerbread and it is easily the best I’ve seen since Project Elite.

    • Tesseract 3

      LOL.

      I don’t even want it though, the lack of a removable battery is a complete deal breaker for me. 

      • John

        As stable as some android OS builds are (well, mainly custom roms), a battery pull is still required sometimes.  My phone will go a month without issue, but every now and then I still need to pull the battery when 3g stops working, or the browser freezes or something.

        • Anonymous

          i’m sure someone has already said something to this effect, but even with my D2, if i’m using my phone heavily during the day all day, the battery doesn’t last.  i always carry a spare in my purse.  i can’t imagine what a beast like this would do to battery life, so i would hope there would be an ability to do SOMETHING under those circumstances.  as for freezes, if i go with the bionic, i am going to miss my ability to “shift+alt+del” on my physical keyboard.  i haven’t had a need to pull my battery in many many months for any reason other than it being drained.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=667432104 Albert Kilger

          I’m sure it will have some way to reset without a battery pull.  But like apple, without having to create a battery dock into the phone you effectively create more space for a bigger battery which in turn equals better battery life.

    • Whiteandnerdy55

      Considering a 2 GHz phone was supposed to be out by the end of 2010, I don’t know if we can ever expect a rumored release from Moto…

      Anyone remember this story?
      http://www.droid-life.com/2010/06/10/motorola-launching-2ghz-android-phone-in-2010/

      • Anonymous

        That was the Atrix which got pushed back a month and Jha meant a phone with dual 1 GHz cores, thus he said 2 GHz incorrectly.

        • Imanjja

          2 ghz should come with solar power panels

      • Yep-ThatWouldBeAwesome

        I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t even want a 2ghz phone. Can you imagine how spectacularly terrible the battery life would be?

  • Anonymous

    Sounds similar to the next Nexus specs.

  • Sean

    see this July 2012.

  • Anonymous

    Pass. Any news from HTC or Samsung coming up with a Superphone that will actually be released?

    • http://twitter.com/capn774 Sean O’Keefe

      so this is probably the “motorola slimline” that was teased a month or so back