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Motorola XOOM Will Not See 4G LTE Before the Galaxy Tab 10.1

You’ve probably heard this by now, but the Motorola XOOM which launched back in February as a 4G LTE device, will not have the service until later on this summer.  We heard word of this set back in April, but Moto CEO Sanjay Jha confirmed the summer timeline again today at the Bank of America Merrill Lynch 2011 Technology Conference.

“We are late with 4G LTE on Verizon’s network,” Jha said before finishing off with a reminder of the statement he made during their last earnings call, “We will deliver LTE solutions this summer.”

While most of us were disappointed to learn this news, we had brushed it off as sort of a minor delay, hoping that when released, the product would be of the highest quality – and then today Verizon announced the Galaxy Tab 10.1 which will have live 4G LTE out of the box this month, infuriating many of you.

Verizon and Motorola had originally planned for the upgrade to take place at the end of May or June, but after running into issues that they won’t necessarily go public with, we’re stuck waiting until the new Bionic comes out.  He did sort of take blame for the delay though and dropped this little nugget today, “We were delayed on two 4G products because of network interaction issues with our protocol stack.”

The odd thing is, that just 30 seconds later when asked how they can prevent such a delay from happening again, Jha made reference to having burned bridges and “betting everything on one place.”  We can only assume he’s referring to their decision to go with NVIDIA’s Tegra 2 processor (which has been rumored to not cooperate with 4G LTE radios) (NVIDIA cleared the air on this rumor) rather than TI’s new OMAP or Qualcomm’s new dual-core, because as he continued he talked of working with all chipset manufacturers going forward so that they have fallback plans.

It was an odd talk, and one that clearly painted Motorola in a falling behind the curve pack.  They have now been beaten to the 4G LTE wave by HTC, Samsung and LG in phones and are about to be in tablets as well.  They better hope the Bionic knocks all of our socks off or it’s going to be one long year for our friends that brought us the original DROID.

Would love to hear your thoughts.

And a couple of other notes from the conference:

  • Jha made a comment about the return rate on Android phones being largely in part due to the installation of 3rd party apps.  He is under the impression that these apps are causing performance issues.  While I have no idea where he is getting this idea, it does scare me that they would possibly consider blocking them from being installed much like AT&T was doing for the last year or so.  (Note: or was he talking about actual market apps?)
  • Motorola for the most part, was pleased with the XOOM and were glad to be the first manufacturer to release a Honeycomb dual-core tablet, but made sure to blame the lack of apps for it not blowing up the sales charts.
  • Sanjay is excited about Ice Cream Sandwich and the idea that Android will become one giant OS.
  • He expects tablet price points to come way down in the second half of the year.
  • They have no plans to work with Microsoft and are fully vested in Android.
  • Anonymous

    I bet Matt is pissed.

  • Anonymous

    I bet Matt is pissed.

  • Mii

    That would be interesting to find out why exactly the tegra 2 didnt or doesnt work with 4G LTE, or wasnt soemthing fixable with a software update.

    • Anonymous

      THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH THE TEGRA 2 AND LTE!%#)%(!&#%)!*#&%!#)%!~@$!@$!@hhlk9:disqus 
      I$!~~~!!
       
      If there was then the new Samsung Galaxy Tab wouldn’t have 4G LTE!!!!!  (since its Tegra 2 too)

      • Anonymous

        You know that for sure?

        Answer: No.

  • http://twitter.com/magiman7 Paul

    Only chance motorola has of making Bionic a hit is unlocking the bootloader.  If bionic is locked liked D2/DX/DX2 etc, most will pass and wait for the next HTC.

    • Nexus1ne

      um wrong.  most consumers don’t care about bootloaders or rooting their phones.

      people that mess with that stuff are a minority of android users.

      • Marcelo Burrieza

        The estimates of rooters/non stock ROMs users in android is about 1%. But this is for the total of phones activated. On early adopters (like most on this site) the percentage is higher and those are the phones with higher profit margins. Modders also buy 2 or 3 phones per year (all high end), compared to the rest that buy one per year or every 2 years (usually low to mid range).

        I personally recommended more than 50 phones to my friends over the past 2 years and I never recommend a locked bootloader phone (knowing that most of them will never change the ROM or even root), because outside US the carrier support for upgrades is close to not existent, so the only way  to install a ROM is from the manufacturer or a custom rom developer. Moto milestone was updated to 2.2 last month, Defy that is newer is still on 2.1, not to mention the Quench (cliqXT) that is still on sale with 1.5+Blur…
        The modding community is also very active in the social networks and the hundreds of complains in Motorola and HTC FB, twitter and forum pages are very visible. Nobody wants bad comments. HTC changed their policy because of this.Other important point are the developers, that need an open phone to test their stuff. For that reason locked phones can have more errors and FC because the developers do not use them to test their apps.I guess that on earnings, the root community is close to 5%. That is not the minority everybody talks and the manufacturers are aware of that, at least HTC. 

    • Anonymous

      Hardly.  The way that the bionic is a success is if it has differentiating features from the rest of the Android offerings on Verizon.  It has absolutely nothing to do with locked bootloaders.

  • Anonymous

    What an EFFEN joke Motorola has become.  It was a hasty decision to rush the Xoom and now it could put them on the brink of total failure.  Without the OG Droid they would already be out of business.  I would love to hear the behind the door conversations taking place!  LOL

  • ChaosRV

    What, no mention of the Droid 3?

  • http://twitter.com/AndroidEcko Bonifacio

    what about the Toshiba Thrive?

  • http://twitter.com/khtse Ka Hei Tse

    - So much for charging people a premium price for the Xoom being 4G-“upgradable” when it was release.
    – Tegra 2 not compatible with 4G LTE radio? Galaxy Tab 10.1 uses Tegra 2, FYI.
    – 3rd party apps causing performance issue and high return rate? No, it’s 1st party app. Get rid of Blur and everyone will be happy.

  • Anonymous

    My wifi motorola xoom is still waiting for the 3.1 update and yet the samsung galaxy tab will launch next week with 3.1. Buying the xoom is a huge mistake. I’m not buying a motorola product again.

  • Anonymous

    Dear Sorry Sanjay,

    If your developers spent more time on LTE, and less time on Blur and bootloader encryption, you might keep me as consumer. I’ve got a Droid, 2 Droid X’s and a Xoom. My purchasing track wouldn’t have veered if you hadn’t continually f’d up.

    Sincerely,
    Looking for a new OEM

    PS: Resign now, Jha!

    • Anonymous

      Do/Did you major in letter writing or does it just come naturally?
      /s

    • Interstellarmind

      i would suggest HTC.

      i had an OG, DX, and own a xoom 3g. my tbolt is far superior to my DX. it’s smoother, faster, sense is awesome, and the camera on is better (features-wise and colors-wise).

      HTC has very rightfully earned my business.

    • Interstellarmind

      i would suggest HTC.

      i had an OG, DX, and own a xoom 3g. my tbolt is far superior to my DX. it’s smoother, faster, sense is awesome, and the camera on is better (features-wise and colors-wise).

      HTC has very rightfully earned my business.

  • http://twitter.com/Koobie_2009 Koobie_2009

    Looking at that picture of him makes me want to punch him in the face!

  • T Hall

    This is crazy!  Especially since 4G just launched in my Town (Spokane, WA).  It is official, I am not going to wait for the Bionic….

    • http://twitter.com/Koobie_2009 Koobie_2009

      Verizon doesn’t have a good, spec wise, 4G phone yet.

      • T Hall

        Well I disagree.  Plenty of people will tell you the T-Bolt is great spec wise.  I am not too concerned about Dual Core or anything, isn’t that what the Xoom is for?

        • http://twitter.com/Koobie_2009 Koobie_2009

          The Thunderbolt may be a decent phone but it has battery life issues….

          • T Hall

            Very true, it might be the only thing holding me back.  But tons of upside too with development, and the fact that poor battery life might be overly exaggerated. 

          • Interstellarmind

            from a t-bolt owner who had the OG and DX (and now a lameduck xoom 3g)… it is a solid phone. battery life sucks, i can get 4 hours with heavy use… 8 hours with light use. get an extra battery and an external charger and you’ll be fine.

            tbolt, software wise, is waaay better than my DX (OG will always have a soft spot in my heart as it was my first android device… ). the camera on tbolt is WAY better than the dx (brighter pictures and the camera app is jsut well put together – touch to focus, for instance) and sense just makes… sense! it doesn’t slow down the phone. it’s super smooth (stock!) and is the best android phone experience i’ve had thus far.

          • T Hall

            Thanks a ton for the info.  I think I might just take advantage of the $149 offer that Amazon has going…

          • T Hall

            Thanks a ton for the info.  I think I might just take advantage of the $149 offer that Amazon has going…

          • Interstellarmind

            from a t-bolt owner who had the OG and DX (and now a lameduck xoom 3g)… it is a solid phone. battery life sucks, i can get 4 hours with heavy use… 8 hours with light use. get an extra battery and an external charger and you’ll be fine.

            tbolt, software wise, is waaay better than my DX (OG will always have a soft spot in my heart as it was my first android device… ). the camera on tbolt is WAY better than the dx (brighter pictures and the camera app is jsut well put together – touch to focus, for instance) and sense just makes… sense! it doesn’t slow down the phone. it’s super smooth (stock!) and is the best android phone experience i’ve had thus far.

  • Shaun

    I haven’t looked at this conference call (or whatever it was) yet, but my guess is that by “return rate” on Android phones, he meant the rate of return. Meaning that the phones themselves are sold very close to what it costs to build them, so the profit that Motorola gets comes from the royalties they gain from making deals to pre-install 3rd party apps.

    Just a guess anyway, Kellex, because the way you described it made NO sense. And I can’t imagine the CEO of Motorola not knowing how 3rd party apps work on a phone, even if Motorola is clearly a dimwitted company.

    • Anonymous

      This actually makes no sense.  He very clearly meant the phones being returned, not profits.

    • Geust

      Wow, I just looked up the quote and he WAS talking about returned devices. That just seems so asinine – maybe Moto is more dimwitted than I gave them credit for.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jerryhuster Jerry Huster

    Seriously…I smell a class-action lawsuit coming right around the corner for Xoom owners. Anyone remember the debacle that was the V710 and Bluetooth? Ah, good times.

    • JUSCOZIMME

      It seems like it doesn’t even matter, they got their money made launch date, but the funny thing is

      What Goes Around Comes Around

      That just a Universal Law

  • Davros

    Dear Sanjay Jha, I installed 3rd party apps on my Droid X so it WOULDN’T run like shit.
                                                                                            Sincerely, Chris Nimon :)

  • Anonymous

    So Samsung seems to have better luck getting LTE to work with newer chipsets.  I hope this means we’ll see a GS2 with LTE in the next few months, because that would beastly.

  • http://twitter.com/richie681 Eric Richardson

    Such utter bullshit. I need my “LTE tax” back. 

  • http://twitter.com/richie681 Eric Richardson

    Such utter bullshit. I need my “LTE tax” back. 

  • hfoster52

    I smell fire sale…..

  • hfoster52

    I smell fire sale…..

  • Booboolala2000

    Motorola is now dead. They really need to impress with uodates fir the XOOM to make uo for this. A free 32gig sd card would help.

    • JUSCOZIMME

      Motorola need to do something, this is ridiculous.

      • Booboolala2000

        Part of the reason I bought a TBolt for my Mom, and a Charge for me. I got the Xoom upon release to give Motorizon one more chance. Done with them. Ordered my Samsung CHROME notebook, will get another tablet in a year if this one is left to wither.

  • Starhelius17

    Wow! Unlearned from history is unlearned from.

  • slappynutz

    Motorola hasnt changed much still think they can win people over just by there name.

  • RW-1

    Furthermore, as an illustration of “tool” ness … Look at what HTC just did:

    http://androidspin.com/2011/06/02/attention-developers-htc-launches-dev-site-for-sense-development/

    You will never see jha do this.

  • Rizzidy

    F Motorola

    Rest in Piss

    • Rich Floresjr

      Bwahahahahahaha

    • Rich Floresjr

      Bwahahahahahaha

  • Superfoot

    You know, if he were a little more gray Jha sorta looks like the dog whisperer…

  • http://twitter.com/mfg68 MFG

    Do we still think the Bionic will be out in the summer? Like August at the latest?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Forte/542650247 Michael Forte

      Yeah supposedly like 3rd week in August. I wouldn’t expect it any earlier.

      • http://twitter.com/mfg68 MFG

        Link?

  • Kevin

    Each time I read an interview with him, I become more convinced that Jha is either completely out of touch with the consumers, or is just plain incompetent.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Forte/542650247 Michael Forte

    Like you said: if the Bionic doesn’t knock our socks off…I think that will be Motorola’s last chance to redeem themselves. They’re now last to release a 4G LTE phone and lagging behind in the 4G upgrade for the Xoom. Why didnt they stick to what made the OG Droid great?

    • Anonymous

      Just because they’re one of the last few to release a 4G LTE device, doesn’t mean anything. Being first means nothing. Rather wait a couple of months and they get it right; I hate rushed products.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Forte/542650247 Michael Forte

        Yes but they shouldn’t have shown the Bionic at CES until they did enough testing to know that it was going to be the final product. You have lots of people that were hoping to get it earlier but have to wait because of the problems with Tegra 2 and LTE. Now we’re waiting til the end of August at earliest. By then other carriers will release great phones and it will be tough for them to compete. I’m a Motorola fanboy for their hardware at least but if they continue to mess up I’m staying with HTC or someone else.

        • DroidzFX

          SHIT HAPPENS.

          Move ON

    • Anonymous

      You’re an idiot, what about technical problems don’t you understand?  Motorola was the first to adopt dual core processors, at the time the Tegra 2 was the only real option.  As with all early adoptors, they are usually the ones to run into problems with new technology, not only was the Tegra 2 new but so was LTE.  Turns out the two technologies don’t interact with each other very well and Motorola didn’t have a fall back.  This means delays.  So sorry you’re an impatient little twat that gets his panties in a bunch because you can’t wait a few more months.

  • RW-1

    Jha, you’re a tool…  You did what you always do, rest on your laurels, in this case the OG Droid, which Google assisted you with, and it saved your sorry a$$ mobile division.

    On your own, you couldn’t make a good decision to get out of a wet paper sack.

    Just look at his pic, screams tool … Now that moto is on their own again, they’ll continue just on name recognition and take their reputation into the toilet, swirling around right now.

    I’ll predict nvidia’s chipsets will run super hot, the phones will overheat or have other related issues, and he will have no fallback plan. you heard it here first!

    The bionic will be a fail as well, because of what the competition will have out there, or being released, with more for less $$$, and working 4G.

    Looks like my OG will be upgraded to something by HTC, we know where there CEO stands, you will never see this tool tell you the truth.

    • Anonymous

      Have fun with your HTC with poor battery life, lesser build quality and hardware and no better support.  What got the gingerbread update first?  The Droid X with highly improved blur.  What did the Evo get updated to?  Old sense 2.0.  HTC is no savior, get a grip.

      The Bionic will have a superior OMAP 4430 with 1 GB of ram, a 1930 mAh battery and working LTE.  What will HTC have that’s so much better?  4 GB of internal memory?  Give me a break.

      Fanboys.

  • Joebenton19

    Give us some money back since they didn’t hold up on there end

  • Anonymous

    did samsung say if the upcoming touchwiz update for the galaxy tab 10.1 was optional? i like my xoom because its stock

  • Bjzbd

    What about our long promised SD Card support?  I have a WI-FI Xoom so all I care about is the SD Card activation. 

    • Anonymous

      Ask Google, that’s in their hands.

    • Anonymous

      Ask Google, that’s in their hands.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SKKUXGABNL747KKHTVKGGFR2NY Anonymous

    Don’t buy Moto products and you will be a happier person. I counted them out a long time ago. Plain and simple.

  • Ryzor

    Sadly, all these tech companies just cannot be trusted. They never deliver upgrades and updates in the time frame they say. It happens time and time again. Look at the Logitech Revue and Android Market 9 months later…

    Like the commenter below, the OG Droid was the only thing they’ve really done right since their resurfacing. The Xoom has been a beta product released with a bunch of lies to try and compete with the iPad 2. Misleading customers and just flat out lying…

  • http://twitter.com/eatmode4life Ray Mendoza

    Great. The first time I actually decide to take the jump into early adoption and I get screwed. Thank you Motorola! A reach around and dinner would have been nice.

  • Bradb21

    I’d rather Motorola get it right, rather than rush a product out the door. I think there have been a lot of complaints about some of the first LTE phones (namely battery life and problems with 3g/4g transitions). I have a Xoom, and I don’t mind waiting a couple more months.

    • Rizzidy

      Have fun in the past.

      • DBK

        Have fun wasting money on unfinished products and wasting time returning them.

      • DBK

        Have fun wasting money on unfinished products and wasting time returning them.

    • Booboolala2000

      So what will you say in august?

  • http://twitter.com/Chasemanhattan3 Chase Chick

    So in other words: Google saved our asses by helping us with the OG Droid, but now that we’re back on our own we’re going to continue to make idiotic decisions and freefall back to the point of bankruptcy.  

    • Marlon Moura

      Yep, makes sense.

    • Marlon Moura

      Yep, makes sense.

      • Anonymous

        Makes HTC sense…

        Go T-Bolt!!!

    • Azndan3

      Motorola sucks. Just one disappointment after another.

    • Mr.Joe

      Actually if you read an article posted here on DL.  Moto and Google helped each other out.  Android wasn’t doing so hot and either was Moto.  So they teamed up with the Droid.  Which arguably put Android on the map.

      • http://twitter.com/Chasemanhattan3 Chase Chick

        Google wasn’t on their way to the poor house though.  Moto was.

        • Mr.Joe

          That’s not what the article from DL said…

          • http://profiles.google.com/j450n79 J450N M

            Make no mistake, a HUGE part of the success of the D1 was Verizon.  They needed something to get behind to get a market share with touch screen devices. Cuz the Storm belly flopped miserably. They made a GIANT marketing campaign push with their droid does line…moto should consider themselves lucky that VZ was willing to drop the coin they did on the advertising…its seemed like every 20 mins there was a “droid does” commercial on TV.
            Moto is the one thats shooting themselves with their own gun that they loaded form the success of the D1.   Look at all the crappy devices that came out of moto after the D1. Then they starting putting that blur BS on there phones. 

            They abandoned the principals that made then a success with the D1 and are paying for it now (same BS they did with the RAZR putting out 6 million watered down versions of it without putting out a PROPPER successor/ RZ2 then it was too late,now they are doing the same thing again)

            The Bionic better be on hell of a phone that’s firing on ALL cylinders, which means no encrypted boothloader (or developer friendly in some way) and no blur crap on it.  If not the slope they are already sliding down aint gonna be a nice ride. Samsung is gonna be there at the top kicking them down the hill going “if you alienate your customers you blew it!”

            Just my take on things.

          • Anonymous

            Uh, the Droid X and Atrix are both great phones.  You can argue your love or hate for blur all you want but the hardware is second to none and the Atrix beat everyone to market with super specs by months.  Alternative launchers make blur a mostly moot point and the new blur on the X is more than decent.  It’s one thing to justly hate on Moto for locked bootloaders, it’s another to hate on them for any little bs reason like delayed 4G due to technical problems while no other company offers a 4G tablet or a non functional sdcard slot because Google hasn’t enabled it.

      • Djstar2k2

        well the G1 wasnt a monster phone but enough to get the ball rolling.  im sure the G1 did better than wp7 1st outings and they already had a phone platform uncle googs didnt. Dont forget the G1 is what got everybody open to android and mr moto say that money and needed in.  vrz has more cash than tmo so they could promote better.  not taking anything away from my og droid but mr moto took the G1 and advanced it for the time 2 yrs ago. 

        • Mr.Joe

          Again got all my stuff from an article from DL.  The G1 really wasn’t this amazing phone people thought it was. 

      • Steve Hillshire

        Moto produced the D1 with great fanfare and hasn’t launched anything exciting since.  If they think their strategy with the RAZR is going to work in the smartphone world, OMG, do they have another thing coming!

        • Djstar2k2

          agreed.  what happened to the ole skool way if it aint broke dont fix it?  if they slurr up the d3 im gone

        • Djstar2k2

          agreed.  what happened to the ole skool way if it aint broke dont fix it?  if they slurr up the d3 im gone

        • Mr.Joe

          Maybe the Moto Q?

    • Djstar2k2

      i feel you its like hey we went platinum so next album lets go with are own sound and show the world we the best…..d2 r2d2…. um one gold and one flop later umm…. crazy if the og droid is your best album stick with what works lol 

    • Inkster09

      Damnit his pic. Again I want to punch him sooooo bad.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kittygetwet James Sorensen

    Definitely sucked hearing that a tegra 2 tablet the new galaxy tab would have it no problem right around teh corner. I think verizon should maybe step up and let me bring my xoom in for trade in for a true 4g tablet now available on their network.

  • Rob Becker

    Samsung is firing on all cylinders for sure. Moto.. not so much.

    • Carlito Pr787

      How many cylinders does Samsung have?

      • Anonymous

        Is Touchwiz a cylinder?  Nope, just lame.

        • DBK

          I think it’s running on 5 right now and firing on all of them.

        • http://twitter.com/Koobie_2009 Koobie_2009

          FYI, Blur isn’t all that great

          • Anonymous

            FYI, there is no Blur on the XOOM.

          • http://twitter.com/Koobie_2009 Koobie_2009

            Dude, you are all over the place….you said, “Is Touchwiz a cylinder?  Nope, just lame.”
            I’m just letting you know that blur is kinda lame too.

          • Anonymous

            Irrelevant.

    • Anonymous

      Sure this is a class “A” embarrassment in terms of PR by not delivering on promises but here we are June 2nd with no “gotta have it” 4G phone or Android tablet available to purchase today.  The Android tablet and LTE 4G phone races have only just begun.  Hopefully their decision to go back to the drawing board on the Bionic shows their commitment to not repeat mistakes.  I’m not saying people shouldn’t be pissed at them, but calling winners and losers as some are is a little premature.

  • James Kernicky

    Moto will not get my support until something major changes…like unlocking the bootloader

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3F52SIGKZTAHNMDCDS64HCJY3I Janos

    I feel sorry for everybody who buys motorola products in general

    …then again….
    COME ON, you knew what to expect from them

    • http://www.facebook.com/kittygetwet James Sorensen

      It’s funny cause this is what you expect from samsung products and updates, funny how a year and tings change 

  • Anonymous

    I hope that my verizon rep understands when I bring in my like-new Xoom and demand a Galaxy Tab 10.1

    • http://www.facebook.com/kittygetwet James Sorensen

      I’m definitely thinking about trying this.

    • Anonymous

      I hope your Verizon rep laughs at you for returning the Nexus of tablets for something that runs TouchWiz, and doesn’t have USB, HDMI, or a microSD slot. All because they delayed the LTE upgrade by 1-2 months?

      • DBK

        It’s not going to run TouchWiz, just have TouchWiz apps and widgets, which it won’t even get until a future update. So it’s basically a pure Google device as of now. So yes, it’s definitely worth it.

        • Anonymous

          and somehow you don’t think those Touchwiz apps and widgets will delay future updates? The XOOM will always be a Google Experience Device, and it will always have HDMI, USB, and a microSD slot. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 will not.

          • Anonymous

            What good is a slot if you can’t run anything on it unless it’s rooted?  It’s like having the Swedish bikini team in your living room, with the promise of unlimited beer and massages but all from behind a 5 foot thick concrete wall. Yay, I have a 4g device with an sd card slot that I’ve had since February that I still can’t use to it’s full potential. Maybe the promise from Motorola about the capabilities was on “other” devices and we just misunderstood them.

          • Anonymous

            and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (with no microSD slot) is like the Swedish bikini team not showing up at all? Which would you rather have? As for the capability, Motorola isn’t the one holding it back, Google has already said they’re working on it, since it’s an issue with the OS, not the hardware.

          • angermeans

            I have to agree the SD card argument is a moot point when talking about the galaxy tab as it will never have it. The Xoom even with motorolas miss steps is the better product by far in my book as they both have basically the same specs but the Xoom will have a SD card and gal tab will never have it. The number one thing i bought when I got the Xoom was being it was a Google device meaning it will always have updates and I don’t have to deal with a skin especially touchwiz. Call me when HTC outs a dual/quad core tabket with honeycomb and scribe technology and then I’ll think there is something worth getting rid of my Xoom for.

          • Rich Floresjr

            If I knew the wall would come down after a few months and I’d get the unlimited beer and massages from the hot chicks… I would DEFINITELY wait for that. Now as far as tablets go, if I cared any less I’d be dead because I don’t give a sht about tablets.

          • DBK

            Not really, no. Not to mention it’s running Android 3.1.

            Considering how much memory it comes with, microSD is not that big a deal. HDMI isn’t really important. It does have USB, just not conventional USB. It has what I like to call CrappleUSB.

            And unlike the Xoom, it will have 4G/3G, working. So I say again, totally worth it.

          • Anonymous

            I use the HDMI out on my XOOM all of the time, so trust me, it is important. Saying Samsung’s propietary port is OK is like saying the old HTC devices that required a dongle for a 3.5mm audio jack was OK. So what, you’re going to carry around Samsung’s propietary connector all the time? As for 64GB being enough, it is, until it’s full and you have no other option.

          • Anonymous

            In all honesty, the prospect of that thing getting any update that even resembles TouchWiz makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up and punch me in the head for even considering the Galaxy Tab. I would much rather wait for something else…

          • Matt

            They have already stated that it will be an optional upgrade to Touchwiz. I believe Samsung is getting smarter and realizing that they can release a non-TW version much faster and then release the widgets and  apps at a later time.

          • Anonymous

            I sure hope this is the case. It may even be smart for them to pull an HTC and maintain unlocked bootloaders. That and some DLNA support and it might be a consideration. Emphasis on might…

          • angermeans

            Yeah I said that same thing and bought me a galaxy s in samsung finally learning from mistakes and I posted a lot of posts stickimg up for them saying there is no way they will keep their galaxy s line behind the times. Then I used a phone that ran like shit thanks to a horrible implimentation of I/o and a non working gps let alone was forced to use the worse skin on planet earth and believe me if its worse than moto blur that is saying something. I will never buy samsung anything ever again that is the truth. They won’t get a dime of my money not after the way they treated their customers they are money grubbing ass holes. I can’t believe more people don’t see it the same way. How can you not push an update to froyo when the euro gal s had froyo since September and then you redo the vibrant and you even work with Google directly with the nexus s and still can’t get your shit together? They used froyo as a reason for people to buy their newer phones and I guarantee anyone that buys the galaxy tab with touchwiz will get the same treatment samsung has always done it. Tell yourself any different and you will seriously be let down like I was

          • takeshi

            You use HDMI all the time so it’s important to DBK?  Interesting reasoning there… 

          • Anonymous

            He doesn’t use it all the time so it’s not important to anyone else? Interesting reasoning there…

          • DBK

            Considering a majority of the people who buy said tablets don’t use the HDMI, I would say it isn’t that important.

            As for the memory, if you seriously need more than 32 gigs (let alone 64) then you are using the wrong device.

            Considering you could also use bluetooth, I would say at least having some sort of usb port plus a second option is better than nothing.

          • Anonymous

            Based on what research don’t people use the HDMI on their tablets? Apple research or potential Galaxy Tab 10.1 owner research? You obviously don’t have a tablet, since you’ll quickly find out that 32gb is not enough. I put 28gb on my XOOM in the first 12 hours I had it. I know plenty of people (through forums) that have already maxed out their storage space, and I know plenty of XOOM owners who use HDMI on a regular basis.

            As a business owner who travels, I couldn’t live without HDMI, and 32gb is not “more than enough”. Client files and movies take up the majority of the space, and it certainly is nice to hook up the ol’ XOOM to the TV in the hotel to watch a movie. You can obviously use services like dropbox or whatever, but that doesn’t do you a bit of good sitting 32,000 feet in the air, when you’re trying to review client files.

          • Anonymous

            A microSD slot only helps if it actually functions.  LOL

          • Anonymous

            It does with Tiamat kernal, and will have full support later. Galaxy Tab 10.1, nope.

          • Anonymous

            We all know that it is suppose to have full support later and if we didn’t, we do now from you stating this 100 times.  I feel Motorola has failed miserably with the Xoom with their hasty rush to release it.  Whether it is Motorola’s fault or not, it reflects badly on them.  I’m not saying it is a complete piece of crap, but it certainly hasn’t lived up to the hype.  The fact that the microSD card isn’t functional yet is an embarrassment.  No one can argue against that.

          • Anonymous

            An embarrassment to who, Motorola or Google? The latter, hence the reason no Honeycomb tablet has a properly functioning microSD slot.

            And please don’t say the Asus’ is properly functioning, since all they did was hack the kernal (just like any XOOM owner can do), and you have to use a freakin file explorer to do absolutely anything with your storage card.

            I would much rather have a pure Google device, where I can revert back to stock pretty much instantly when the next update is on the way.

          • Djstar2k2

            my acer tab has a working sd card slot.  but acer drop the ball with the usb driver lol

          • Anonymous

            Not a properly working one, as Acer just hacked the kernal too. You can’t access files with anything other than a file explorer. That is not the way it supposed to work, as can be seen on any Android smartphone where you can cache to the microSD, move apps (or their data files) to it, access media files from the gallery, and set it up to automatically saves images and videos (taken with the device) to the storage card.

            —–Original message—–

          • Anonymous

            We all know that it is suppose to have full support later and if we didn’t, we do now from you stating this 100 times.  I feel Motorola has failed miserably with the Xoom with their hasty rush to release it.  Whether it is Motorola’s fault or not, it reflects badly on them.  I’m not saying it is a complete piece of crap, but it certainly hasn’t lived up to the hype.  The fact that the microSD card isn’t functional yet is an embarrassment.  No one can argue against that.

        • Anonymous

          I’d rather go with the Asus or maybe the Toshiba.

      • DBK

        It’s not going to run TouchWiz, just have TouchWiz apps and widgets, which it won’t even get until a future update. So it’s basically a pure Google device as of now. So yes, it’s definitely worth it.

      • Anonymous

        Let him laugh. I’d be trading it for something lighter, sleeker, thinner and doesn’t feel like it’s a beta. There’s also the better screen.

        • Anonymous

          So the Galaxy Tab 10.1 doesn’t feel like it’s in beta, even though it’s running the exact same OS (until it gets TouchWiz of course), and because it doesn’t have USB, HDMI, or microSD? Is that correct?

          • http://twitter.com/mfg68 MFG

            It has USB and HDMI. Just need to use the adapters from Samsung. And the XOOM doesn’t have an SD card slot right now either lol

          • Anonymous

            great, just what I need, another adapter or special dock. nah, I’ll stick with my $3.48 HMDI cable.

        • Matt

          I disagree, the Xoom looks pretty damn slick to me. thinner and lighter? What are you a cripple. A few ounces is too much to bare?

        • Anonymous

          Pathetic.

    • Anonymous

      I JUST wrote a letter to VZN on that exact same statement. Share response with you if you ask too!

    • Anonymous

      You could always try using the old “False Advertising” schtic on them. Since it was promoted as 4G and isn’t. :] And it has been an unacceptable amount of time you have waited to use it on LTE for the price you paid.

      • Gjkramer45

        I think its time for a Class action lawsuit, when I bought my Xoom I had not Idea the SD would not work and wasn’t Notified bt Verizon.

        • Lloyd_anthony2000

          Thanks to the ruling of the Supreme court u can nooooooo longer file class actions against corporations.
          So if u want any chance against the corporations; as much as some may hate him. Re-elect Obama so we can balance the friggin Supreme Court. Because there will be maybe to stepping down

    • angermeans

      Right I’m sure that will work especially since you purchased a motorola product and are demanding a samsung replacement? And we wonder why wireless service is so expensive. You can demand all ya want but it won’t happem. I do believe that verizon needs to step up and do something because they Co signed motorolas 4g promise and most of us bought into that. Still demanding a competitor product that came out four months later after you have used it for months isn’t going to happen and shoukdnt happen. You want a galaxy tab sell your Xoom and buy one because verizon def doesn’t owe you that after at the most 3 months of data plan costs.

      • Anonymous

        At lest give us a better pricing on 4G when and if the update hits or some kind of credit. I was bought into VZW from Alltell and havent liked it one bit.

  • Mr.Joe

    Well that explains everything!

  • Anonymous

    Also, can anyone find any old advertising from Verizon or Motorola that says, “Verizon’s first 4G tablet” or “upgradable to 4G in Q2″? I would love to walk into Verizon and demand a refund using that as evidence.

    • Anonymous

      I can only find stuff that says it’s upgradable. And that it’s Honeycomb. I will keep looking.

    • http://twitter.com/acidone Bryan Snyder
    • Anonymous

      Directly from the VZN site: I guess they meant spring 2011 on Pluto. Maybe light years affect gregorian calendars.Prepare for total immersion. Introducing the Motorola Xoom tablet with Google™. The first tablet powered by Android™ 3.0 (Honeycomb). With a 10.1–inch HD widescreen display and a 3D holographic user experience that gets in your face. Packing the power of a 1 GHz dual–core processor, Gyroscope and 1 GB of PC–grade RAM.And it gets better. In spring 2011, you can upgrade your Motorola Xoom to 4G LTE for free. You’ll just need to mail your device back to Motorola to complete the upgrade. See verizonwireless.com/xoom4glteupgrade for details.*Android and all Google products are registered trademarks of Google, Inc.Tablets are Advanced Devices for the pruposes of Early Termination Fee and Wireless Protection

      • http://twitter.com/mfg68 MFG

        That means they have until June 21st, right? End of spring?

  • Anonymous

    In other news… the sun will rise in the East tomorrow, and the Xoom will still be a failure.

  • Anonymous

    So, is this delay / eventual failure going to either allow us to return or trade in our Xooms for Galaxy Tab 10.1s or other 4G tablets? I would hope so. This delay is infuriating.

    • Anonymous

      You would honestly return your XOOM for a Galaxy Tab 10.1, running TouchWiz, with no HDMI or USB, and not even a chance of microSD capability?  Really?  Come on, really???

      • DBK

        Since it is not running TouchWiz off the bat, has a working 4g radio, has CrappleUSB (which is better than nothing) and running a newer version of Honeycomb, it is completely worth it. Having no SD card is a small price to pay for most.

        • Anonymous

          Running a newer version of Honeycomb than what? Not the XOOM or the Transformer.

        • Anonymous

          All of your points are wrong.  The tab 10.1 will have touchwiz, a working 4G radio has yet to be determined until it’s out, crApple style proprietary USB is worse and the xoom does have a working microUSB port, no it is not running a newer version of honeycomb and finally you can enable the sdcard slot on the xoom with a custom kernel if it’s that important. The early Tab 10.1 don’t even have an sdcard slot or HDMI port. Your hatred of Motorola is clouding your judgement.

          Xoom > Galaxy Tab 10.1 in every way save the IPS LCD.

  • Anonymous

    Really disappointing. This shouldn’t happen

  • Anonymous

    I’ll accept their apology if its “said” by giving us another stock phone like the original Droid

  • Eric

    Motorola is a f*cking joke!

    • JUSCOZIMME

      That’s it, I won’t purchase anything else from Motorolla.  I tried with this XOOM, OG, D2, and X.  I was satisfied with all these products purchased the Xoom now I’m Doomed to wait and wait until Moto corrects this issue.  Trying to be patient, but this is so lame, everything they have come out with has failed.  I should have waited for the WIFI version, but I wanted 4G and SD.  Never again.  If you have experienced 4G then 3G is a joke.  I don’t even use the Xoom via Verizion, so this was a waste of money.  I still like the tablet, but I hate to be lied to.