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Second Report: HTC Thunderbolt Outselling Verizon iPhone 4

One thing that has always irritated the hell out of me, was the ridiculous amount of sales comparisons that seem to be made between the current iPhone and whichever new Android device has just landed on the market.  Why?  Well, you have to remember that the iPhone and the sales of its 2 or 3 different versions get grouped together to form one giant number.  You never hear that the 16GB model sold 40K units while the 32GB hit 100K.  It’s always, “Verizon sold 2 million iPhones.”

But when Verizon starts selling a DROIDX, DROID2 and Thunderbolt, we seem to break them all out as individual devices, which will of course lead to lesser numbers.  After all, there are how many different Android handsets and on how many different carriers?  And this is the reason we scoff off at most of these comparisons, because the real numbers should and have always been between Android activations and iPhones sold.  And we all know who’s dominating that race.

With that said, when you do actually hear of a single Android device putting our Apple counterpart to shame, it’s worth a quick mention  because it’s quite the feat.  According to a second report from another research firm (ITG), the HTC Thunderbolt has been outselling Verizon’s iPhone as consumers are looking for something “new” and of course fast.  Hello LTE.

*Note - Obviously we need to spell this out for the Apple fans who can’t seem to grasp how any of this works.  The Thunderbolt has not outsold the iPhone in total sales, and how could it have?  It’s been out a month less.  The point is, that since the Thunderbolt was released, it has been outselling the iPhone.  Rocket science, I know.

Via:  NY Post

Cheers Brian!

  • Nicole001_1

    Who cares?

  • Webcomin

    When any manufacturers model running the Andorid OS, one model, lump all of the storage sizes together you want, outsells the iPhone 4 in its first day, first week, or first month on the market, that will be meaningful. Getting excited, about a brand new phone, outselling a phone that has been on the market for almost a year is funny.

    By the way, I have a Motorola Android device.

  • iKing

    And that has been confirmed by “Well, you have to remember that the iPhone and the sales of its 2 or 3 different versions get grouped together to form one giant number.”

    Wow dude….r u serious???? You’re saying that like it’s unfair???? Do you not realize that there are 100 plus versions of Android phone pitted against the iPhone??? But whenever fandroids like your wanna tout your marketshare edge, you say “Android is outselling the iPhone”….you never say things like, “100+ models of Android spread out on all 4 carriers (with Verizon practically giving phones away on a 2 for 1 deal)” are outselling THE (1) iPhone…..boy you guys are hypocrites

  • Jcapp82

    I love my TB

  • Droid4urAzz

    I’m pretty sure this is a Droid website (hence the name). So I have an idea, why not take your iPhoney asses back to your apple forums where you all fight over who get’s to suck off Jobs first. Or the argument of who can customize their iPhoney as close to a Droid as possible. OH THAT’S RIGHT, YOU CAN’T! Apple is going to get smashed by Android and Google and now all you stupid fanboys are scared. I’m gonna hate to see how jealous they all get once the Charge and the Bionic drop. Bye bye iPhoney!

  • ComicalAli

    “Verizon says the iPhone 4 produced the most successful first-day sales in the history of its wireless business.”

    (Source: http://www.macworld.com/article/159391/2011/04/verizon_iphone4.html)

    With that being said, I love my new Thunderbolt and I did choose it over an iPhone 4. The main reason: 4G. Now if the iPhone 4 was 4G, I probably would have gotten that. Regardless, Kellex, you’re starting to become the Iraqi Information Mister aka Comical Ali: “There are no American infidels in Bagdad..”

    The propaganda crap is not why many folks come here. You’re cheapening Droid-Life by posting this crap.

  • Smokeeater218

    I purchased an iPhone last month from Verizon after owning the original DROID and the DROID X, and I just sold my iPhone on eBay after purchasing a T-Bolt because Android is far superior and I was just so disappointed in the iPhone. I love my T-Bolt and will never have anything other than a Android phone ever again.

  • http://www.facebook.com/aakker214 Andrew Akker

    Keep deleting my comments. It makes you look so much more less bias and manly.

  • Eyefixstuff

    Who really cares which sold more. One of the phones is clearly better in almost every way possible, especially considering the 4g. So what is the problem here?

  • iPhone User

    Look people, it’s not a bias post. Yes in week to week sales, the iPhone wins. As of now, in day to day sales, the Thunderbolt is outselling the iPhone. It will catch up to week to week sales numbers. Kellex is calling you “kiddies” because you are just ignoring what 40 people have already told you, which is what I stated above. Unfortunately for us iPhone users (not a fanboy though) the Thunderbolt IS outselling the iPhone in day to day sales and WILL catch up to the iPhone sales numbers.

  • Heldadavid

    Too many things to consider in this equation ! How many iPhone purchases were returned .
    At the end of the day… Ive had a dinc, fascinate,iPhone 4,and now a tbolt. The Thunderbolt is the best Damn phone I’ve ever owned . The dinc was superior to the iPhone…and with 4g and a larger screen this is a dream. Stock battery should’ve been larger, but that’s my only complaint. The transition to ios coming from a solid Android device is pretty Damn hard to swallow. Sales figures are misleading, but any iPhone user that spends quality time w the tbolt and still can’t say that overall its superior is silly. I don’t care if iPhone outsells the tbolt 100 times …it still not as good.

  • http://www.facebook.com/aakker214 Andrew Akker

    This place has got to be the most biased piece of bs ever on the internet. Way worse than Apple news sites. Also, thanks for deleting my comment.

    • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

      First learn to read, second your comment is not deleted, third its from the NY post, lastly go cry

    • Anonymous

      This website is getting progressively worse everyday with all this crap.

      • Anonymous

        I know….it was so much better A few months ago…….b4 all the trolls & ios users started leaving comments

      • Anonymous

        I know….it was so much better A few months ago…….b4 all the trolls & ios users started leaving comments

  • Anonymous

    Hey jeff, better for us i wouldn’t want all those simpletons crowding up my 4G speed :)

  • Anonymous

    It is amazing how apple produces one product and that many people will buy it, as opposed to android and it’s hundreds of different products. Andrew, do you iOS or Android better? Just curious…

  • Anonymous

    It is amazing how apple produces one product and that many people will buy it, as opposed to android and it’s hundreds of different products. Andrew, do you like iOS or Android better? Just curious…

  • http://twitter.com/jbernard703 Jeff Bernard

    “since the Thunderbolt was released, it has been outselling the iPhone. Rocket science, I know.”

    way to pull this line right out of your ass. you have no week by week breakdown of sales so nice try. the only thing we know is total sells of each device and number of weeks the phones have been for sale. iPhone is crushing by a 3 to 1 margin in average weekly sales and 10 to 1 in total sales. Nice try android lovers but your thunderbolt is getting a crushed by a phone that is simple a CDMA version of a 8month old phone. Also how about those total iOS vs Android numbers that recently came out. iOS is used by more people by almost 50% than Android. Not a good week for Android

    • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

      So I guess you win then? To be honest all this doesn’t matter android is here to stay so why so mad…I don’t care how many people use it all that counts is that I like it….your comments remind me of a child in grammer school time to grow up jeff

    • http://profiles.google.com/apostrafee Luke Johnson

      total ios huh? so in a desperate and feeble attempt to still remain on top ifags have decided to pull out thee most ridiculous stat out of their asses. those stats include the ipad AND ipod sales you do realize that right? look sooner or later your gonna have to see that android and goole arent going anywhere its only going to get bigger and stronger and unless steve jobs can pull something useful out of his ass apple will become a thing of the past and a fading memory. the very fact that freakin ipod sales are included in those reports shows exactly how desperate you all are. FACE IT JEFF YOUR GOING DOWN

      • http://twitter.com/jbernard703 Jeff Bernard

        everyone wants to say iPhone vs Android. Its an unfair comparison. Its an single product vs an OS. It its fair its OS vs. OS or single product vs. single product. Apple wins both. Victory. Haha

        • http://profiles.google.com/apostrafee Luke Johnson

          since the android OS is a smartphone OS and iOS is on devices such as ipods i really dont see how thats a fair comparison. of course that doesnt disprove the fact the android smartPHONEs are outselling iPHONES. as i stated before android phones are much more popular and are going to continue to outsell iphones unless apple inc does something. and by something i dont mean putting an 8MP camera to the iphone5 or making the screen bigger, cuz that shits been done……..over a year ago

  • http://www.facebook.com/aakker214 Andrew Akker

    Sorry all you Android/Moto fanboys. Verizon conference call revealed 2.2 million phones sold (that’s 360k per week) while 260,000 thunderbolt’s sold (that’s 130k per week).

    Take your bias bullshit elsewhere Kellex. It annoys us non-fanboys who have owned/own both Android and iPhones before or now (like me).

    • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

      Why does this annoy you? Its an article on the web and its not from kellex, its from the nypost so if your that mad be mad at them

      • Diverse

        But ‘Kellex’ hasn’t updated this post with the official link from Verizon. Look, the bottom line is from a week over week analysis of both phones on Verizon since their release date, the iPhone averaged more devices on a weekly basis during the quarter. Now that mostly everyone has purchased the iPhone on Verizon, sales should drop off for the iPhone…But will they? Probably not. Will the Thunderbolt pick up in sales given that it’s only been out for a little over a month? Who knows.

    • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

      Why does this annoy you? Its an article on the web and its not from kellex, its from the nypost so if your that mad be mad at them

    • http://profiles.google.com/apostrafee Luke Johnson

      “take your bias bullshit elsewhere kellex” last i checked this is his site. take your frustrated angry comments elsewhere Andrew.

    • http://profiles.google.com/tyler0976 tyler fish

      Dude, if you don’t like this site or what Kellex posts, why are you here exactly? The information was taken from the New York Post… :-P

    • Anonymous

      Right on Andrew. I agree. Reason we are here it to read the biased crap. Same crap as on apple sites. tis fun. that’s all….but Andrew is right on number thing; not that it really matters since we are here to post biased crap anyway. Right?

    • Csquared17

      “It annoys us non-fanboys” You only represent yourself, not a group of people. Do not try to be some self-appointed leader. You also need to get off your high horse and stop acting like you are more informed than everyone else. I have owned both, I am not touting it like it is some justification for my not being a fan-boy. And I personally don’t care what the sales are, I love my T-Bolt and that is all that matters.

    • Anonymous

      “take your bias bullshit elsewhere Kellex”???????……..ITS HIS SITE U CLOWN, go back 2 the circus

  • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

    Im glad I started this huge discussion I think people are reading too much into it tho…read the article

  • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

    Im glad I started this huge discussion I think people are reading too much into it tho…read the article

  • Ask

    I went into Verizon and said show me the best you got and the worst. I was handed a Thunderbolt and a bag of dog shit. I chose the Thunderbolt. Google wins again!

  • Anonymous

    LMAO@ Rocket Science

  • Anonymous

    I thought there’d be more than just 2.2 million simpletons out there….

    • Anonymous

      Simpletons or people who actually have lives? Most people don’t sit around all day reading tech blogs about smartphones… Calling people who don’t buy android phones simpletons makes you look like an idiot.

  • 007

    I would hope that a new phone would be outselling a 2+yr. old phone. Depending on which side of the fence you are on, its always going to make one or the other sound good. Its going to interesting to see when the Iphone 5 and another Android phone is released the same or around the same time to see which sells better. That’s the only way you will see which actually sells better.

  • jimmmyjones

    Only a Droidiot thinks 250,000 is more than 2,200,000

    • http://profiles.google.com/apostrafee Luke Johnson

      you mean its not??? you just shattered my world

  • http://profiles.google.com/irishpride1183 jake sirlin

    From what I understand the official numbers were released and the iPhone sold more than the tbolt by a decent margin. All these reports are biased one way or another and since this is an android site all they are going to report are the numbers that favor any android device with no regards to the truth.

  • Anonymous

    Write to Verizon and ask them to give you a break down of how many of the 314,000 weekly sold iPhone were 16GB AND 32GB? However if you are going to cry foul about this than you must be one of the few writers that cry foul about Android Activations counting BOGO offers?

    Google offers a chart right Showing

    Tablets
    Paid Phones
    Free Phones
    High End Phones
    China Crapware

    Right?

  • gearmonky

    to quote kellex, “one thing that has always irritated the hell out of me” is the fact that people are comparing the sales momentum of a newly-released device with one that was out for over a month already (actually almost a year, if you count the A&TT version). the sales numbers for most electronics are strongest early on and taper off as the pre-release hype dies down. i don’t dispute that the tbolt is indeed outselling the iphone, and i completely agree that comparing overall sales numbers is even more foolish. but you have to look at context here. you’re comparing the instantaneous sales of the single newest and hottest device on verizon with a phone that has already been out for a few months, and has been available elsewhere in identical form for nearly a year. if the tbolt weren’t outselling it, i’d be very concerned.

    btw, i own a tbolt. and i hate apple on many levels. but neither of those two facts excuse me from being reasonable and objective.

  • Mrlongmeat

    Dude please dust it off before you take a picture of it.
    kthxbai

    • LMAO

      Thats what your mom said. hahaha

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-Cropley/668531301 Matt Cropley

    i hate apple fan boys

    • Anonymous

      Right cause android fanboys are totally more respectable…

  • Mike B

    I have had the iPhone back when it came out a the price of almost $600.00 and I just traded my Verizon iPhone 4 for this nice new 4G LTE Thunderbolt. Let me tell you I love my Macbook but I would not take the iPhone over this HTC again… No way no how. That being said the speed of 4g and the flat out speed of this device blows iPhone out of the water hands down. I know some Apple lovers will say….blah, blah, blah. Tell you what you keep on thinking the iPhone is great and watch as overall sales of android crush ios. If you really want to compare then use ios vs Android and see. Still have the iPhone as king ?? I don’t thinks so. Steve Jo*s himself is worried about Android. Go figure oh….AND CRY :(:(:(:(:(

  • EC8CH

    Here’s as unbiased of a review that I am capable of:

    I went into a VZ store for a couple of minutes. I handled both the TB and the i*hone4. The fit and finish of the i*hone and the quality of it’s materials are all extremely nice, frankly better than any android phone. However it feels small compared to the 4″+ screens that are a standard on higher end Android phones. But it’s biggest problem is it’s dumbed down overly simplified OS. No notification panel, no widgets, nothing, just a grid of shortcuts. Doesn’t feel like a powerful device, feels more like a… “app juke box”.

  • Angry Turd

    60% of time, it works every time!

    • Anonymous

      statistically speaking of course. :]

  • Anonymous

    I seriously doubt the Thunderbolt has sold more than 2million which is what the Verizon iPhone (both 16 and 32GB) have sold.

    And of course they don’t break other phones down into storage capacities like Apple does, there is only one version of other phones since the iPhone has no expandable storage. That is the beauty of user swappable storage.

    • Anonymous

      It hasn’t outsold in total, the iPhone has been out longer. Since the Thunderbolt has been released, it has been selling more than the iPhone.

      • Anonymous

        I’d like to see some official numbers on this (ie from Verizon, htc, or Apple) rather than from an analyst. I am skeptical of this until then. AFAIK, no one model of phone from any manufacturer has sold more than the current iPhone model available at release. Android excels in volume, lots of options from lots of manufacturers.

        Just like how AFAIK there is no single computer model that sells more than the equivalent Apple model. It is overshadowed in bulk.

        • Jcampbell474

          I agree, analyst’s numbers aren’t preferred, but they’ll do. Think about it – their career and the company’s future depends on these numbers. The results of their analysis steer many investors and millions of dollars.

          It’s easy to sit back and call BS, but those guys have a lot riding on their numbers. More than we can gather from reading blogs and forums.

          • Anonymous

            I don’t know about that. I have seen lots of inaccurate analyst numbers, I don’t think their jobs rely on the unofficial numbers released to the Internet.

            I would love if these rumors are true but I just can’t see it. If this was the DROID 3 maybe, but not for something like the Thunderbolt which has had little promotion and no real point except for being the first LTE phone on Verizon.

          • DJsMOM

            And the truth comes out…Your just a hater of the Thunderbolt.

            “If this was the DROID 3 maybe, but not for something like the Thunderbolt which has had little promotion and no real point except for being the first LTE phone on Verizon. ”

            Don’t be sad, I’m sure Motorola will deliver that locked bootloader and crappy MotoBlur for you soon. ;)

          • Anonymous

            Not necessarily a hater, but I have been baffled by the hype the Thunderbolt has gotten. Just being LTE doesn’t make a hype worthy phone.

            That being said the Thunderbolt is good, but I don’t see one individual smartphone from any manufacturer on any carrier outselling the iPhone, that goes for something I am meh about like the Thunderbolt, or something worthy of hype like the Atrix, Bionic, or DROID 3.

          • Eyefixstuff

            You must not have experienced 4g on the Tbolt yet then. Because that one fact alone would sell me this phone even if the OS sucked. 21+ mbps here. I tether my computer to it and my speeds are faster than comcast cable.

          • Anonymous

            I don’t know about that. I have seen lots of inaccurate analyst numbers, I don’t think their jobs rely on the unofficial numbers released to the Internet.

            I would love if these rumors are true but I just can’t see it. If this was the DROID 3 maybe, but not for something like the Thunderbolt which has had little promotion and no real point except for being the first LTE phone on Verizon.

        • Jcampbell474

          I agree, analyst’s numbers aren’t preferred, but they’ll do. Think about it – their career and the company’s future depends on these numbers. The results of their analysis steer many investors and millions of dollars.

          It’s easy to sit back and call BS, but those guys have a lot riding on their numbers. More than we can gather from reading blogs and forums.

    • Sp4rxx

      you obviously didn’t read the notation … derr! day to day sales SINCE the tbolt release they have been outselling …. read the article, not just the title!

      • Anonymous

        I read both, and the link. All I see is analyst blathering, not actual official numbers. Like I said, to my knowledge no individual model of any competitor (with the possible exception of Apple TV, and the definite exception of the Apple router) has sold more than the direct Apple competitor. Competitors excel at having multiple multiples hitting multiple needs, not in huge sales of one particular model.

  • Stachemoney

    There may also be a lot of people waiting for the iPhone 5 this summer.

    • Anonymous

      Except that it won’t be coming until the Fall…and will probably have the same specs as current gen Android phones. All reports point to it being a mild upgrade in speed, no NFC, no LTE, and basically the same as the old model for everything else. And it will still sell way more than it should. Sad.

  • Anonymous

    The statistic of statistics show that 60% of statistics are skewed to the company the pays for statistic. I’m pointing my statistic finger at you Apple.

  • Anonymous

    The statistic of statistics show that 60% of statistics are skewed to the company the pays for statistic. I’m pointing my statistic finger at you Apple.

  • Anonymous

    Verizon’s own report issued either today or yesterday says they’ve sold over 2million iPhones and about 250,000 thunderbolts.

    Got to stay current guys!

    It’s possible that the thunderbolt has been outselling it in day to day sales since release, but the numbers don’t compare overall.

    • Logan3414

      that’s because the iphone has been out longer on verizon. it has had more time to sell. The thunderbolt is beating it in day-to-day sales, so it is therefore outselling the iphone.

      • Anonymous

        Thanks Logan, some of these kiddies just don’t get it.

        • Anonymous

          The ‘kiddies’? At least try to maintain some professionalism.

          You’re talking about a phone that has sold a fraction of the amount the iPhone has, and as the gentleman below has pointed out, the weekly sales figures are also in the iPhone’s favour.

          Excluding this kind of info and throwing around accusations about kiddies and apple fans makes youlook just as bad as the devotees of the iCult.

          • Anonymous

            deejay can’t wrap his head around the two reputable reports showing the i*hone being outsold by a SINGLE android phone.. (not even android fans predicted with the hundreds of android options available, a single one could outsell the godphone, so I understand his sentiment) nothing to see here, move along

          • Zzz

            Much easier to understand. Since the thunderbolt release, more common folk have wandered into a vzw store or sat on there comp and bought a thunderbolt while less common folk have bought the iphone 4. SINCE THUNDERBOLTS RELEASE DATE.

          • Logan3414

            In response to flatiron’s data, it is still because the iphone came out 2 months sooner. In that time period, everyone wanted the iphone so the sales were high. Once the thunderbolt released, people started buying more thunderbolts. Although the averages flatiron pointed out are higher for the iphone, it does not mean that the thunderbolt is not, at this point in, selling at a greater rate than the iphone.

          • Anonymous

            Yes, but the point you yourself have made is important here: The iPhone has been out since February. It’s reasonable to expect sales to drop off in that time frame, and that a hotly anticipated phone would outsell a two month old phone (and this is ignoring the fact that the iPhone has been out on AT&T since last year).

            When an Android phone outsells the iPhone in a like for like comparison (one network, weekly sales over the first month of release), THEN there’ll be something to shout about, but competition between the various Android OEMs will probably prevent that from ever happening.

            We can already see that the weekly averages aren’t even close, so as it stands the comparison seems a bit sad and barely even newsworthy.

          • JT

            Sure — I say believe what you want until the actual numbers are published. I’m less concerned about which sells more, just surprised considering all the time and press it took for the ip* to get to VZW. Think about it like this — how many of us have passed on the TB and waiting for the next best Android phone?

          • Logan3414

            I will have to agree with you on the point that it is hard to compare them. unless they were released on the same day, its impossible to get true data. but the point of the article was to show that just one android phone is currently outselling the iphone.

          • Anonymous

            Yeah referring to people as kiddies who are pointing out the bias of your Article makes you look pretty childish yourself.. How ironic.

      • flatiron

        not taking sides here, but breaking down the numbers that are out there, the Verizon iPhone 4 sold 219k a week (2.2 million over 7 weeks) during the 2nd Q, while the thunderbolt sold 130k a week (260k over 2 weeks)

        http://goo.gl/Wfwic

        • Anonymous

          It is possible that a lot more of those 2.2 million sold in the first five weeks than in the last two when it was competing head-to-head with the TB.

          • Logan3414

            exactly

          • flatiron

            if you subtracted 500k from that total to account for the pre-order the average number of iphone’s sold a week would still be 242k.

          • Anonymous

            I am not talking about pre-orders. Averages are misleading; you are assuming that that the rate of 242k held for all seven of those weeks. It is quite possible that before the TB came along, the iPhone had an initial burst of sales at say 400k a week for the first 5 weeks. Then the TB came, and sales dropped way below the rate the TB has sold. That is a valid explanation for the two data points we have: 2+ million iPhones sold on Verizon, and the TB outselling the iPhone since its launch.

          • iKing

            Anything is possible but you don’t know! The reason why averages are important is precisely that….you don’t know at what rate either has been selling! The point still stands….the Verizon iPhone, much to the chagrin of fandroids, has been a runaway success! All the while being a nearly year old model with an outdated technology (3G vs 4G) with a new phone being released sometime this year…BAM!!!!

            P.S. Any way u slice it, the iPhone 4 is kicking the Thunderbolt’s ass!

          • Anonymous

            This ignores one of the two data points we have: the research finding that the TB is outselling the iPhone since its release.

          • Anonymous

            This ignores one of the two data points we have: the research finding that the TB is outselling the iPhone since its release.

          • iKing

            And that has been confirmed by whom??? A Verizon employee??? HTC?? oh I see….an analyst…..they’ve been sooooo accurate when it comes to Apple….

            Bury your head in analysts “guesstimations” if it makes you feel better….I’ll stick with the OFFICIAL Verizon numbers

          • Anonymous

            I guess it’s easiest to ignore the data that one doesn’t like.

          • iKing

            Or to pull data out of your ass where there actually is none….

          • jason w.s.

            lol, thats the funny (actually sad?) part, a phone thats been out as long as the iphone has, including its time on AT&T, selling as much as it has…selling more than these brand new phones (4G phones at that!)

        • Anonymous

          It is possible that a lot more of those 2.2 million sold in the first five weeks than in the last two when it was competing head-to-head with the TB.

        • flatiron

          wow, I put the wrong figure in, the number for the iphone should be 314k a week.

          • Anonymous

            That’s okay. Your logic is still incorrect.

          • flatiron

            what logic? those are the averages that were given during VZW’s earnings report. I’m not making any judgement on them or anything else, just putting them out there…

          • Anonymous

            Verizon might have sold 90% of the total iPhone volume in the first week. That would mean the ThunderBolt has been outselling the iPhone weekly since it launched. The overall weekly average sales are meaningless. Hence your logic is totally flawed.

          • http://twitter.com/jbernard703 Jeff Bernard

            and every thunderbolt could have been sold on the 1st day and thus iPhone is outselling the thunderbolt by a huge margain. do you see what i did. i just made something up to prove my point, just like you did.

          • Calculatorwatch

            What’s your point? the only point you made was that you can make something up to prove a point.
            Speaking of getting to the point, the point of this article is not that the thunderbolt is selling better than the iphone sold at it’s release or even over it’s lifetime, simply that it’s selling better than the iphone is right now.
            And if you think about daily device activations, if the thunderbolt is taking care of the verizon iphone all by itself, that leaves every other android device on the market to outsell the at&t iphone which I have the feeling is happening by a large margin.

          • http://twitter.com/jbernard703 Jeff Bernard

            the point is you have no numbers of day to day sales. so when you keep saying TB is outselling iPhone 4 now you are making that up.

          • Anonymous

            It’s hardly Calculatorwatch making that one up; two market research firms have come up with this finding based on their polling.

          • Anonymous

            It’s hardly Calculatorwatch making that one up; two market research firms have come up with this finding based on their polling.

          • http://profiles.google.com/daddy.holmes Tom Holmes

            The average temperature of the solar system is slight above absolute zero. I suggest wearing a jacket.

      • http://www.facebook.com/miketrose Michael T. Rose

        That doesn’t actually make sense. Verizon reported in its quarterly results call that it sold 2.2 million iPhones in six weeks, and 260,000 Thunderbolts in two weeks.

        On average, that means the iPhone sold almost 3x as many units, per week, as the Thunderbolt. The iPhone sales would have had to drop off a very steep cliff — and be extremely frontloaded — for that discrepancy to be erased.

        Considering that the analyst report and the NY Post article came out before Verizon’s self-reported numbers, it’s likely that they are on the wrong side of the math.

        http://www.tuaw.com/2011/04/21/verizon-iphone-selling-faster-than-the-htc-thunderbolt/

        • iKing

          Exactly…..fandroids can’t come to grips with the fact that their precious 4G phone is getting taken to the woodshed by nearly year old, 3G phone. Verizon has not confirmed the rate that either phone is selling, so rather than take the guesstimations of analyst (like they’ve been sooooo accurate concerning Apple), I’ll let the NUMBERS speak for themselves…..
          iPhone = 550,000 avg 2wks
          Thunderbolt = 260,000 avg 2wks

          Game over…..

      • http://twitter.com/jbernard703 Jeff Bernard

        could you please direct everyone to these day to day sales figures you are quoting. oh thats right they don’t exsist. nice try.

        • Anonymous

          For once, I’m happy to see you commenting. :P

          Show these mofo’s what’s up. Show everyone why your my favorite troll on this site.

      • http://twitter.com/jbernard703 Jeff Bernard

        could you please direct everyone to these day to day sales figures you are quoting. oh thats right they don’t exsist. nice try.

    • Anonymous

      Sometimes I wonder about the intellect of these folks. Clearly it is not suggested in this article that Tbolt has outsold the iphone overall….pssst please

      • Anonymous

        The problem is that this entire story is pointless.

        Anticipated phone outsells a phone that has been available for nearly a year, and been available on this particular network for two months.

        AND it doesn’t even come close to the iPhone’s initial sales figures.

        As somebody who has just come back into the Android fold after a brief exile on WP7, it’s embarrassing to see stories like this being touted as some sort of victory for the platform.

        • Calculatorwatch

          The point is just that it’s a small victory. And as the beginning of the article explains, if there were 20 different iphones on the market it wouldn’t be much of a victory at all. But if we’re talking about device activations, if one android phone is beating the iphone on one carrier all by itself, then obviously the total number of android phones are outselling the total number of iphones by a large margin.

          And sure when the next iphone comes out this will probably switch back again for a month or two, but if android devices outsell iOS devices for even 3/4 of the year then it’s pretty clear which platform is winning.

  • Droidzzz

    First?

    • Angry Turd

      Feel better about yourself?