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  • It is always funny to see the comments of people who somehow think Verizon is making software for these phones, lol! If you mad about your phone not getting an update be mad at the manufacturer! They’re the ones making software updates, lol!

    • Very few people will come out and say it’s a great device. I know I stayed away from it after the m9, I owned the m7, m8 and the mobwas just bad. And since the m10 looked almost identical I figured it was bad. And marketing was terrible too

  • I’d like to think the S7 is omitted from these updates because the Nougat update is the focus at this point…I hope. But hard to process that my wifes Note 4 is running more recent security updates than my s7 edge.

    • My unlocked S7 Edge gets security updates every month in addition to other updates that came earlier this year. Its almost a nuance, lol.

      • What makes yours different than others that are stating they aren’t receiving the updates?
        Thanks in advance.. Also what variant model of the S7 are you using?

    • Yup, total inconsistency is why I trading in my S7 and will not own another Samsung device. Even back when the S6 came out it was running newer software than my few months old Note 4. It’s almost like Samsung uses the newest version of Android as a selling feature which is 100% inexcusable. And millions of people including myself fall for the same trap but not anymore.

      • Yeah it is all very annoying. Typically being upgrade to then newest android version doesn’t change how you use your phone too much. When my old note 4 was upgraded to MM from Lollipop, it didn’t change a thing in how I used my note 4.

        Nougat update for hte s7 wouldn’t make a difference either except that we’re getting many note 7 features in this update. So this update is big, and will in fact change how we use our phone a little. I hope they get it right but don’t take an eternity to deliver it.

      • You really only have one option then. Samsung is probably the best at updates that also is not Google.

        • The issue is only 50% Samsung. The other 50% comes from the fact that Verizon sits on the the update until their finished with quality testing (which is bull$hit).
          So riddle me this, if Google can give updates for the Pixel phone so quickly why can’t the same be done for a Samsung, LG or Motorola device when those OEM’s provide the update to Verizon? Just look at the list in the article, Verizon is holding back updates until they feel like releasing them.

  • Moto Z + Verizon with timely security patches, Nougat, and Daydream support. ‘Member all the hate from comments section months ago from people who had no evidence rooting for no updates / patches? I ‘Member.

      • To me if they’re going to put Spyware into the updates, I’d rather not have it and there should be a way ( once it’s proven without a doubt) IMO, Lenovo should be held accountable. 100%.. Fooling ppl to install Spyware is no different than if it happens on a mobile device or any other computer / tablet / etc…

        • My phone’s are all hacked and Verizon told me there’s nothing wrong with them and laughed! BEWARE!!!!

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    • LOL, you think just because Verizon is showing love right now doesn’t mean that you’re going to get screwed in the future. Just look at what happened to the entire Droid line up from 2013. Here’s the Droid-Life article from early this year. I will never ever trust a non-Pixel, non-Nexus or non-iPhone device if the updates are handled by Verizon. Even the Pixel has to prove my trust for the next 2 years. I got burned too many times to fall into the same trap.

      http://www.droid-life.com/2016/02/19/yikes-droid-ultra-maxx-and-mini-wont-even-get-lollipop-now/

      • I have been using Moto phones on Verizon for the past 4-5 years. Yes, the updates have not been very forthcoming, but the devices have all worked great and I have not missed anything from any real or perceived lack of updates. Passing on the phone due to update concerns is one of the dumbest reasons not to buy a phone, IMHO. Use it for 1-2 years and get a new one.

        • With carrier subsidies all but gone and phone hardware/software maturing to where performance is nearing a low end PC, people are going to be holding onto phones longer than 1-2 years. Android OS figures show there are still a lot of old devices out there.

          That said, I’m with you that buying a phone based on updates is rather dumb. I’ve owned Android and iOS phones now for 8 years. Never had an infection. Never been compromised. And never was unable to run an app because the OS was too old. With how mature and stable Android is today, the only thing you’ll lose in not getting that latest update is perhaps some optimizations. There’s nothing major coming in these releases anymore and with Google services largely decoupled, even more reason to not stress over whether your phone gets the newest update or not.

          • Just look at the Android software pie. By the time Android Nougat becomes number 1 it will be 1 to 2 years at this rate. That is embarrassing in itself. How can developers implement new software features like side by side apps if only 0.4 percent are only running Nougat? Why should a software developer care?

            That’s the reason why I own a Nexus 6, Pixel and iPhone 7 Plus. It almost doesn’t make sense to own the Pixel because of the above reasons.

          • You do realize that the fragmentation argument is mostly non-applicable now that most Android features are added through Google Play Services, which auto updates on all devices since 4.0 or 5.0?

            Other than the occasional feature that needs a OS change, most new features work on old and new devices alike. I was using apps with Material Design back on ICS and Jelly Bean.

          • That pie chart itself is a misrepresentation because Google refuses to do a breakout by region or by device cost. So out of the billion+ devices out there worldwide, a tiny fraction are flagships here in the US.

            The majority are junk Android devices around the world. You know, the ones that will never see an update in their lifetime. They serve a purpose for certain regions, but they definitely affect the charts.

          • Carrier subsidies are not gone on Verizon (yet). The stores will tell you that you only have two options: buy outright for upwards of $650 for flagships, or tack on an extra $18-$25 per month for 24 months to pay the retail cost of the phone over time.

            The verizon wireless website allows for a third option (as of Oct anyway) which is the “old” way of paying 2-3 hundred and signing a two year contract. This is still the best option if you know you’re not switching carriers any time soon and aren’t trying to hold onto an unlimited data plan.

          • Actually if you do the 2 year contract you pay more each month ($40 vs $20+ phone payment) so locking yourself into a 2 year contract is not the cheapest way.

        • How is passing on a phone over update concerns dumb? What if there was a software problem after 2 years and the OEM abandoned the phone? What can you do other than buy another phone? That was the entire premise over unlocking bootloaders and rooting in the first place, to fix issues that OEM’s built into the phone on purpose or accidentally? Stock Android today fixes many of those issues but that wasn’t the case a few years ago.

          Just look at the Pixel/Pixel XL volume issue. Someone has has already proven that a software fix can be made but you need to unlock the bootloader, root and apply the fix. So what do you do when you have a locked down Moto device and the OEM stopped updating the phone?

          • “What if …”. I agree that you, cdm283813, should only buy Nexus/Pixel/iPhones. This way, you *never* have to wonder “What if”. Unless, you want to know “What if the Moto/Samsung/LG/etc phones are fantastic and the perceived lack of updates don’t matter?”

          • Moto/Samsung/LG/ect will never be “fantastic” if they lack access to updated software. You’re looking at it from a hardware only view which I use to do back in the Note 2, 3 and 4 days. A fantastic phone would have the best software and hardware. Right now that does not exist for Android or iOS.
            When you’re stuck waiting for a major software release there is no way the phone can be considered fantastic. I realized that with the Note 4, my last Note device. Today almost any mid-range to premium phone is good but right now there is no clear winner. Even if the Note 7 was still alive I passed on it due to Samsung’s track record for slow updates.

          • Exactly, you shouldn’t. We should be given the log changes and we should be notified when it’s released via email/SMS or however they decide to make it happen for it’s user’s.

          • I absolutely agree ?… It’s not like we are paying $100.00 for these device’s. Most flagship phones cost anywhere from $650.00 to almost $1000.00… So when someone is a power user or someone that does the same task daily ( even if they don’t utilize EVER option the phone allows) we should be allowed those updates. Especially if they are passed by the manufacturer and especially if someone has already *proven * ( via rooting with the unlocked bootloader or not, that’s completely not the point) it should be fixed and immediately pushed out to it’s customers. IMHO, as long as the fix doesn’t go against the TOS of your provider than we should be in titled to those updates. And yes, I said, if I pay $800.00+ for a phone, I should be in titled for those updates.
            As someone else said rooting, unlocking, etc all started when programmers realized that they were being held back and took action into their own hands and thank God for them.
            It’s horrible that after owning a device for 2 years to hear or read you won’t be receiving updates… SMH at providers that block this from happening.

          • It’s a good thing Google is good with updates considering all the problems the pixel has! ? I’ve only used Moto Android phones and never had issues with them… Besides not having the latest software but who cares they still worked as they were meant to!

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        No Droid Turbo. And apparently no Samsung S7, according to my son.

  • Thank you for this post! (I hate when I get a software update notice, but haven’t seen anything about it on various blogs. Makes me nervous.)

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