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	<title>Comments on: Android is Google&#8217;s Weapon in the Ecosystem War [Opinion]</title>
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		<title>By: mobilemann</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/11/android-is-googles-weapon-in-the-ecosystem-war-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1904749</link>
		<dc:creator>mobilemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 15:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[are you actually being downvoted just for saying you like OS X? Is this community that super pathetic? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are you actually being downvoted just for saying you like OS X? Is this community that super pathetic? </p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 02:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[as Norman responded I&#039;m alarmed that a mother able to earn $6446 in 1 month on the computer. have you read this page &lt;a href=&quot;http:&#047;&#047;1st&#x2E;ly/4oobb&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; L&#225;z&#255;C&#225;sh5.&#199;om &lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as Norman responded I&#8217;m alarmed that a mother able to earn $6446 in 1 month on the computer. have you read this page <a href="http:&#047;&#047;1st&#x2E;ly/4oobb" rel="nofollow"> L&aacute;z&yuml;C&aacute;sh5.&Ccedil;om </a></p>
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		<title>By: speraider430</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/11/android-is-googles-weapon-in-the-ecosystem-war-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1691933</link>
		<dc:creator>speraider430</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 16:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree 100%, 


Small oversight by the author]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree 100%, </p>
<p>Small oversight by the author</p>
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		<title>By: jp</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/11/android-is-googles-weapon-in-the-ecosystem-war-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1691595</link>
		<dc:creator>jp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 13:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, but he slaughtered more people than the Nazi&#039;s]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, but he slaughtered more people than the Nazi&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: grellanl</title>
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		<dc:creator>grellanl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 13:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The next generation of Windows interface that would *properly* enable touch took a decade longer than we were promised, that is certainly true. And if you look at how they planned to solve it then - with a separate interface that would &quot;layer&quot; over the desktop, and dedicated apps that would run within that interface, so that if you were a touch-focused user you would never see the desktop... well, that sounds an awful lot like Windows 8, to be honest. 


I don&#039;t agree that sophistication of apps wasn&#039;t there at that stage, seriously. In some ways, the apps we use on mobile devices have become simpler, more basic, as the intelligence moves from the device into the cloud. You could run pocket quake back then! And full paint programs, office editors, etc. And as far as the browser being clunky - well, desktop browsers were still pretty clunky at that stage too, if you remember.


I&#039;m not saying there wasn&#039;t a qualitative difference in the way Apple exposed a touch interface in 2007 - there was, partly because traditions like the grab-hand gesture to pan around a document, which were second-nature in the Apple ecosystem, made touch-to-scroll an obvious idea (you rarely saw this in Windows, it was always scroll bars or scroll wheel). But also because technology like capacitive touchscreens had finally come of age, allowing for a more finger-friendly interface (those of us who&#039;d been using our fingernails as a stylus for years welcomed this). But the other stuff had already been done, and much of it quite some time before. I think the phrase &quot;revolutionary&quot; has been co-opted by Apple marketing on this, and it&#039;s been repeated so often the whole world has started to buy in to the legend.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next generation of Windows interface that would *properly* enable touch took a decade longer than we were promised, that is certainly true. And if you look at how they planned to solve it then &#8211; with a separate interface that would &#8220;layer&#8221; over the desktop, and dedicated apps that would run within that interface, so that if you were a touch-focused user you would never see the desktop&#8230; well, that sounds an awful lot like Windows 8, to be honest. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree that sophistication of apps wasn&#8217;t there at that stage, seriously. In some ways, the apps we use on mobile devices have become simpler, more basic, as the intelligence moves from the device into the cloud. You could run pocket quake back then! And full paint programs, office editors, etc. And as far as the browser being clunky &#8211; well, desktop browsers were still pretty clunky at that stage too, if you remember.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying there wasn&#8217;t a qualitative difference in the way Apple exposed a touch interface in 2007 &#8211; there was, partly because traditions like the grab-hand gesture to pan around a document, which were second-nature in the Apple ecosystem, made touch-to-scroll an obvious idea (you rarely saw this in Windows, it was always scroll bars or scroll wheel). But also because technology like capacitive touchscreens had finally come of age, allowing for a more finger-friendly interface (those of us who&#8217;d been using our fingernails as a stylus for years welcomed this). But the other stuff had already been done, and much of it quite some time before. I think the phrase &#8220;revolutionary&#8221; has been co-opted by Apple marketing on this, and it&#8217;s been repeated so often the whole world has started to buy in to the legend.</p>
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		<title>By: socalrailroader</title>
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		<dc:creator>socalrailroader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 08:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Cold War with Russia is back on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cold War with Russia is back on.</p>
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		<title>By: socalrailroader</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/11/android-is-googles-weapon-in-the-ecosystem-war-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1691479</link>
		<dc:creator>socalrailroader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 08:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sadly, I bet most on here don&#039;t even know who the REAL men in that picture are. :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, I bet most on here don&#8217;t even know who the REAL men in that picture are. <img src='http://www.droid-life.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: noyfb</title>
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		<dc:creator>noyfb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 07:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple wants to change the internet and limit people because apple wants to control everything so they can charge everybody for everything. The main reason they hated flash was because people would be able to get videos and movies else where and for free, instead of purchasing it through the istore. I&#039;m not a huge fan of flash, but it is the widely most used player on the net. Apple is solely concerned about charging its users for everything imaginable. Apple should change its logo to a nickel and a dime. And that&#039;s why i will never use apple. They don&#039;t care about the good of the customer only about how much money they can ring out of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple wants to change the internet and limit people because apple wants to control everything so they can charge everybody for everything. The main reason they hated flash was because people would be able to get videos and movies else where and for free, instead of purchasing it through the istore. I&#8217;m not a huge fan of flash, but it is the widely most used player on the net. Apple is solely concerned about charging its users for everything imaginable. Apple should change its logo to a nickel and a dime. And that&#8217;s why i will never use apple. They don&#8217;t care about the good of the customer only about how much money they can ring out of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Offringa</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/11/android-is-googles-weapon-in-the-ecosystem-war-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1691466</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Offringa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 05:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looking at these companies as competing over ecosystems really changed the way I understood each of them and helped me understand more of their decisions and products. It&#039;s crazy to think how reliant many have becomes on one ecosystem. I&#039;m not sure if it&#039;s good or bad, but we&#039;re definitely headed in that direction. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at these companies as competing over ecosystems really changed the way I understood each of them and helped me understand more of their decisions and products. It&#8217;s crazy to think how reliant many have becomes on one ecosystem. I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s good or bad, but we&#8217;re definitely headed in that direction. </p>
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		<title>By: Ron Offringa</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/11/android-is-googles-weapon-in-the-ecosystem-war-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1691465</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Offringa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 05:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep. I have a Palm Pre 2, an HTC Trophy, an iPhone, and a Droid Incredible. I&#039;m able to move between ecosystems for the most part (webOS and Windows Phone are more difficult), but it&#039;s difficult to really move between ecosystems and stay in sync. There are times when I find a closed ecosystem gorgeous, but when something doesn&#039;t work the way it should it becomes incredibly frustrating. That&#039;s why I&#039;ve tried to stay in the middle, but it&#039;s becoming more and more difficult to do so. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. I have a Palm Pre 2, an HTC Trophy, an iPhone, and a Droid Incredible. I&#8217;m able to move between ecosystems for the most part (webOS and Windows Phone are more difficult), but it&#8217;s difficult to really move between ecosystems and stay in sync. There are times when I find a closed ecosystem gorgeous, but when something doesn&#8217;t work the way it should it becomes incredibly frustrating. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;ve tried to stay in the middle, but it&#8217;s becoming more and more difficult to do so. </p>
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		<title>By: Ron Offringa</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/11/android-is-googles-weapon-in-the-ecosystem-war-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1691463</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Offringa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 05:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Palm made smartphones and had somewhat of an app store, but their devices and software were nothing like what Apple introduced and Google and MS eventually released after. Apple is a major innovator. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palm made smartphones and had somewhat of an app store, but their devices and software were nothing like what Apple introduced and Google and MS eventually released after. Apple is a major innovator. </p>
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		<title>By: Ron Offringa</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/11/android-is-googles-weapon-in-the-ecosystem-war-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1691462</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Offringa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 05:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wait, you mean the one phone they released last year isn&#039;t enough? ;) I own the Trophy and it&#039;s a decent phone. There honestly isn&#039;t very much better out there in terms of Windows Phone devices. The Lumia has nicer design, but the specs aren&#039;t very different and they have the same software. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, you mean the one phone they released last year isn&#8217;t enough? <img src='http://www.droid-life.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  I own the Trophy and it&#8217;s a decent phone. There honestly isn&#8217;t very much better out there in terms of Windows Phone devices. The Lumia has nicer design, but the specs aren&#8217;t very different and they have the same software. </p>
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		<title>By: Ron Offringa</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/11/android-is-googles-weapon-in-the-ecosystem-war-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1691461</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Offringa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 05:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem is, the next generation of Windows laptops that are actually designed for touch won&#039;t be appearing until Windows 8 drops (hopefully) later this year, a full two years after Apple released the iPad. Did tablet computers exist before the iPad? Absolutely. I set several up for clients, but they were nothing like the iPad. They were running a desktop OS designed for a keyboard and mouse, not touch. 


Also, you&#039;re right that there were PDAs and other handheld devices before the iPhone. The problem, again, is that they were not good. They did not run sophisticated apps (in comparison to what we see today), the browsers were clunky, and the devices were an eyesore. 


To say that Apple didn&#039;t revolutionize mobile in 2007 is insane. Apple did not invent the category of smartphone or tablet, but they did revolutionize it. Having an idea is great, but being able to actually do it matters. As I said in the article, Bill Gates had been droning on and on about tablet computers far before Jobs understood the vision, but Gates and co. were never able to properly implement that vision. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is, the next generation of Windows laptops that are actually designed for touch won&#8217;t be appearing until Windows 8 drops (hopefully) later this year, a full two years after Apple released the iPad. Did tablet computers exist before the iPad? Absolutely. I set several up for clients, but they were nothing like the iPad. They were running a desktop OS designed for a keyboard and mouse, not touch. </p>
<p>Also, you&#8217;re right that there were PDAs and other handheld devices before the iPhone. The problem, again, is that they were not good. They did not run sophisticated apps (in comparison to what we see today), the browsers were clunky, and the devices were an eyesore. </p>
<p>To say that Apple didn&#8217;t revolutionize mobile in 2007 is insane. Apple did not invent the category of smartphone or tablet, but they did revolutionize it. Having an idea is great, but being able to actually do it matters. As I said in the article, Bill Gates had been droning on and on about tablet computers far before Jobs understood the vision, but Gates and co. were never able to properly implement that vision. </p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Riner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Riner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 05:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow. The more you rant and rave about that stupid picture the more sense it makes why he chose it, lol.  


Whoever said trolls are good for nothing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. The more you rant and rave about that stupid picture the more sense it makes why he chose it, lol.  </p>
<p>Whoever said trolls are good for nothing?</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Riner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Riner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 05:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah, you&#039;re exactly right.  We can still mix things up, like with an android phone, a mac computer, and a microsoft netbook, but our days of picking and choosing services are getting numbered.  


In ways its great, seeing how everything in one ecosystem works together.  But at the same time, more and more I&#039;m starting to see services that I might like, but simply can&#039;t use because I&#039;d have to have an iphone.  It&#039;s like when you buy a phone, and you have to re-set up the home screen and personalize it and everything.  Well nowadays, if you switch from google to apple--hell, it could almost take weeks before you get all of your old services transferred to new apps/programs with similar functionality in the new ecosystem. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, you&#8217;re exactly right.  We can still mix things up, like with an android phone, a mac computer, and a microsoft netbook, but our days of picking and choosing services are getting numbered.  </p>
<p>In ways its great, seeing how everything in one ecosystem works together.  But at the same time, more and more I&#8217;m starting to see services that I might like, but simply can&#8217;t use because I&#8217;d have to have an iphone.  It&#8217;s like when you buy a phone, and you have to re-set up the home screen and personalize it and everything.  Well nowadays, if you switch from google to apple&#8211;hell, it could almost take weeks before you get all of your old services transferred to new apps/programs with similar functionality in the new ecosystem. </p>
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