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	<title>Comments on: Motorola&#8217;s Feedback Network Sends Out DROID Bionic Soak Test Invites</title>
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		<title>By: ny realist</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/30/motorolas-feedback-network-begins-sending-out-droid-bionic-soak-test-letters/comment-page-1/#comment-1693074</link>
		<dc:creator>ny realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 16:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know what all you gnexers are talking about but I get 4g everywhere I go.who cares who&#039;s phone is better,get a life.go get laid!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what all you gnexers are talking about but I get 4g everywhere I go.who cares who&#8217;s phone is better,get a life.go get laid!</p>
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		<title>By: tip8020</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/30/motorolas-feedback-network-begins-sending-out-droid-bionic-soak-test-letters/comment-page-2/#comment-1692226</link>
		<dc:creator>tip8020</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 20:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Y is it takin so long for the update]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y is it takin so long for the update</p>
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		<title>By: Minja Miketa</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/30/motorolas-feedback-network-begins-sending-out-droid-bionic-soak-test-letters/comment-page-1/#comment-1682324</link>
		<dc:creator>Minja Miketa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 15:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually it is true. How can you tell me that MY GNex is worse than MY Bionic? I have dealt with both and the GNex came out on top. My brother is using the Bionic now and HE  knows that my signal is better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually it is true. How can you tell me that MY GNex is worse than MY Bionic? I have dealt with both and the GNex came out on top. My brother is using the Bionic now and HE  knows that my signal is better.</p>
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		<title>By: Cody Nicholas Patterson</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/30/motorolas-feedback-network-begins-sending-out-droid-bionic-soak-test-letters/comment-page-1/#comment-1682014</link>
		<dc:creator>Cody Nicholas Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 13:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not true. The GNex is NOT better it IS worse than the Bionic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not true. The GNex is NOT better it IS worse than the Bionic.</p>
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		<title>By: pizza=awsome</title>
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		<dc:creator>pizza=awsome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 22:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My Bionic sucks...I payed 300 for it right before the Razr came out and I can&#039;t get my money back.  Furthermore, I&#039;ve had to replace it thrice and it still wont work properly....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Bionic sucks&#8230;I payed 300 for it right before the Razr came out and I can&#8217;t get my money back.  Furthermore, I&#8217;ve had to replace it thrice and it still wont work properly&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Clifford</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/30/motorolas-feedback-network-begins-sending-out-droid-bionic-soak-test-letters/comment-page-2/#comment-1666205</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 00:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where the hell is it?!?!?!?!?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where the hell is it?!?!?!?!?!</p>
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		<title>By: scijohn</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/30/motorolas-feedback-network-begins-sending-out-droid-bionic-soak-test-letters/comment-page-1/#comment-1661643</link>
		<dc:creator>scijohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 21:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Me too. 
Oh, and I am enjoying my Lapdock 500 Pro that I picked up from Verizon for $150. 
Thanks for the tip Droid Life!
My son uses the Lapdock with his Razr too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too.<br />
Oh, and I am enjoying my Lapdock 500 Pro that I picked up from Verizon for $150.<br />
Thanks for the tip Droid Life!<br />
My son uses the Lapdock with his Razr too.</p>
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		<title>By: scijohn</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/30/motorolas-feedback-network-begins-sending-out-droid-bionic-soak-test-letters/comment-page-1/#comment-1661618</link>
		<dc:creator>scijohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 21:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My BB Storm and Storm 2 made me sad for RIM. They were company phones so free for me. I wouldn&#039;t have bought them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My BB Storm and Storm 2 made me sad for RIM. They were company phones so free for me. I wouldn&#8217;t have bought them.</p>
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		<title>By: scijohn</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/30/motorolas-feedback-network-begins-sending-out-droid-bionic-soak-test-letters/comment-page-1/#comment-1661613</link>
		<dc:creator>scijohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 21:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your kind? I dunno. Someone who thinks his experience with his Bionic is the same as everyone else&#039;s experience with their Bionic?
I haven&#039;t had any problems with my Bionic since launch either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your kind? I dunno. Someone who thinks his experience with his Bionic is the same as everyone else&#8217;s experience with their Bionic?<br />
I haven&#8217;t had any problems with my Bionic since launch either.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian M. Ward</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/30/motorolas-feedback-network-begins-sending-out-droid-bionic-soak-test-letters/comment-page-2/#comment-1660637</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian M. Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 14:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t get my hopes up! I don&#039;t want to get burned again!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get my hopes up! I don&#8217;t want to get burned again!</p>
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		<title>By: Ian M. Ward</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/30/motorolas-feedback-network-begins-sending-out-droid-bionic-soak-test-letters/comment-page-1/#comment-1660635</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian M. Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 14:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh there&#039;s a new phone? Yeah I have tons of extra money to drop on a newer model before my contract is up, perfect!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh there&#8217;s a new phone? Yeah I have tons of extra money to drop on a newer model before my contract is up, perfect!</p>
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		<title>By: Ian M. Ward</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/30/motorolas-feedback-network-begins-sending-out-droid-bionic-soak-test-letters/comment-page-1/#comment-1660603</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian M. Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 14:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I couldn&#039;t agree more. My OG Droid was useless compared to this thing. My only complaint is not getting ICS. Nothing else about the phone is significant enough to be considered a real issue (last update fixed the data connection issues I was having)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more. My OG Droid was useless compared to this thing. My only complaint is not getting ICS. Nothing else about the phone is significant enough to be considered a real issue (last update fixed the data connection issues I was having)</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/30/motorolas-feedback-network-begins-sending-out-droid-bionic-soak-test-letters/comment-page-1/#comment-1660376</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wasn&#039;t so much referring to you specifically, rather the fact that the screen is always the first issue to come up when people point out the &quot;issues&quot; with the Bionic - I was pointing out the positives of the display.  Someone who uses their device outside on a daily basis might be very interested in the outdoor readability.

As for the colors?  I&#039;m not so sure they are muted, they seem pretty accurate compared to some of the oversaturated displays they seem to stick in devices these days.  It&#039;s just that we get used to the oversaturated colors, that &quot;normal&quot; colors seem muted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t so much referring to you specifically, rather the fact that the screen is always the first issue to come up when people point out the &#8220;issues&#8221; with the Bionic &#8211; I was pointing out the positives of the display.  Someone who uses their device outside on a daily basis might be very interested in the outdoor readability.</p>
<p>As for the colors?  I&#8217;m not so sure they are muted, they seem pretty accurate compared to some of the oversaturated displays they seem to stick in devices these days.  It&#8217;s just that we get used to the oversaturated colors, that &#8220;normal&#8221; colors seem muted.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 12:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See Tony, what I believe is happening is a multifaceted problem that affects users that has as much to do with the cellular base station equipment at the local cell tower level as it does with the devices themselves.  I honestly believe that Verizon has a wide variety of base station equipment; some brand new and others woefully outdated.  And I doubt they even have the same firmwares running on all of their equipment.  Evidence of this is shown in the changelog for one of the Bionic updates (can&#039;t remember exactly which one) - it specifically refererences a fix in the way the device&#039;s radios talk to certain base station hardware (IIRC, the fix was for connecting to Lucent branded LTE hardware).

My lack of issues may simply be due to the fact that my area was skipped in the initial LTE rollout, and we came on line months later.  Add to that the fact that Verizon was extra adamant about getting its LTE network working well in this area due to pressure from all the rich folks coming into the area for horse racing season - I am about 20 miles from Saratoga Springs, NY which is known for horse racing.

Now don&#039;t get me wrong, I have seen data issues on my Bionic at some points - but in all those cases, it turned out to be a network outage.  

Now, as for the ICS ROMs?  Well, those are unreliable for me as well, datawise.  But that is due to a kernel/baseband/OS mismatch, not the traditional handoff issue.

I also notice that you pointed out that ALL 4G LTE devices since the TBolt have had issues.  Which only points to a network level issue as opposed to a device level issue.  Think about a typical corporate LAN.  If one or two devices have connectivity issues talking to the switch, it&#039;s probably flaky devices.  If a majority of the devices connected to the LAN are having issues, it&#039;s more likely a configuration issue on the switch or somewhere else on the network.  The problem is, a nationwide 4G network is much more challenging to troubleshoot, simply due to its size.  It doesn&#039;t help that the LTE network is still a work-in-progress, so variables are always being introduced.   And it&#039;s unlikely that VZW will devote alot of time to upgrading the older sites, until they are done bringing the entire network online.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See Tony, what I believe is happening is a multifaceted problem that affects users that has as much to do with the cellular base station equipment at the local cell tower level as it does with the devices themselves.  I honestly believe that Verizon has a wide variety of base station equipment; some brand new and others woefully outdated.  And I doubt they even have the same firmwares running on all of their equipment.  Evidence of this is shown in the changelog for one of the Bionic updates (can&#8217;t remember exactly which one) &#8211; it specifically refererences a fix in the way the device&#8217;s radios talk to certain base station hardware (IIRC, the fix was for connecting to Lucent branded LTE hardware).</p>
<p>My lack of issues may simply be due to the fact that my area was skipped in the initial LTE rollout, and we came on line months later.  Add to that the fact that Verizon was extra adamant about getting its LTE network working well in this area due to pressure from all the rich folks coming into the area for horse racing season - I am about 20 miles from Saratoga Springs, NY which is known for horse racing.</p>
<p>Now don&#8217;t get me wrong, I have seen data issues on my Bionic at some points &#8211; but in all those cases, it turned out to be a network outage.  </p>
<p>Now, as for the ICS ROMs?  Well, those are unreliable for me as well, datawise.  But that is due to a kernel/baseband/OS mismatch, not the traditional handoff issue.</p>
<p>I also notice that you pointed out that ALL 4G LTE devices since the TBolt have had issues.  Which only points to a network level issue as opposed to a device level issue.  Think about a typical corporate LAN.  If one or two devices have connectivity issues talking to the switch, it&#8217;s probably flaky devices.  If a majority of the devices connected to the LAN are having issues, it&#8217;s more likely a configuration issue on the switch or somewhere else on the network.  The problem is, a nationwide 4G network is much more challenging to troubleshoot, simply due to its size.  It doesn&#8217;t help that the LTE network is still a work-in-progress, so variables are always being introduced.   And it&#8217;s unlikely that VZW will devote alot of time to upgrading the older sites, until they are done bringing the entire network online.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/30/motorolas-feedback-network-begins-sending-out-droid-bionic-soak-test-letters/comment-page-2/#comment-1659442</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 04:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s truth, it&#039;s incredibly legible in direct sunlight. One thing I don&#039;t miss about the AMOLED devices I&#039;ve had in the past.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s truth, it&#8217;s incredibly legible in direct sunlight. One thing I don&#8217;t miss about the AMOLED devices I&#8217;ve had in the past.</p>
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