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	<title>Comments on: Galaxy Nexus on Verizon Could Have Better Than Expected Battery Life? (Updated)</title>
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		<title>By: lilmoe 2002</title>
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		<dc:creator>lilmoe 2002</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 01:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[with newer CPUs, each core runs faster and consumes less power than 
previous generations (on the same clock speed), which means cpu 
intensive operations finish &quot;faster&quot; on a single thread. but when you 
split the load on multiple cores, the time (and power) spent processing 
threads will also decrease.



An example; if you have a task that takes a single core 10 seconds to 
execute 10 threads, it should take a dual core 5 seconds in theory. part
 of the power savings comes from the time saved in processing, and part 
comes from improved battery life of each core.



some modern designs also designate a &quot;lower power&quot; &quot;helper&quot; core to do 
simple tasks and other tasks when the device is on standby. that also 
reduces the power consumption considerably (also in theory). some future
 designs also will include an additional helping core (probably for 
background garbage collection in the case of android). meaning there 
will be 2 full fledged cores, and 2 &quot;lower power&quot; cores, making the chip
 a quad core...



it&#039;s also worthy to mention that Android 4.0 ICS and future Android 
distributions will fully utilize the GPU for UI rendering, relieving the
 CPU from those nasty rendering tasks. while GPUs generally consume more
 power than CPUs, the time it takes the GPU to render graphics is 
exponentially shorter than that of a CPU. This will also result in more 
power savings. ICS will also fully utilize all the cores, allowing tasks
 to finish in a shorter and other cores to handle garbage collection. 



However, when a Gingerbread device gets an official ICS updates, with no
 bugs. then, and only then, will we be able to test out those theories.



For those who are concerned about LTE power consumption, all the above 
does NOT apply to the power consumed by LTE. The power saved by the OS 
on tasks is insignificant compared to the power consumed by the LTE 
radio. I&#039;ve read that Qualcomm (and others) is working on a 28nm LTE 
modem embedded in their chipset. Now THAT is what you should be waiting 
for before you jump the gun. If it were me, I&#039;d wait for a device with 
the new chip, which should also be powerd by ICS (or later versions). 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with newer CPUs, each core runs faster and consumes less power than<br />
previous generations (on the same clock speed), which means cpu<br />
intensive operations finish &#8220;faster&#8221; on a single thread. but when you<br />
split the load on multiple cores, the time (and power) spent processing<br />
threads will also decrease.</p>
<p>An example; if you have a task that takes a single core 10 seconds to<br />
execute 10 threads, it should take a dual core 5 seconds in theory. part<br />
 of the power savings comes from the time saved in processing, and part<br />
comes from improved battery life of each core.</p>
<p>some modern designs also designate a &#8220;lower power&#8221; &#8220;helper&#8221; core to do<br />
simple tasks and other tasks when the device is on standby. that also<br />
reduces the power consumption considerably (also in theory). some future<br />
 designs also will include an additional helping core (probably for<br />
background garbage collection in the case of android). meaning there<br />
will be 2 full fledged cores, and 2 &#8220;lower power&#8221; cores, making the chip<br />
 a quad core&#8230;</p>
<p>it&#8217;s also worthy to mention that Android 4.0 ICS and future Android<br />
distributions will fully utilize the GPU for UI rendering, relieving the<br />
 CPU from those nasty rendering tasks. while GPUs generally consume more<br />
 power than CPUs, the time it takes the GPU to render graphics is<br />
exponentially shorter than that of a CPU. This will also result in more<br />
power savings. ICS will also fully utilize all the cores, allowing tasks<br />
 to finish in a shorter and other cores to handle garbage collection. </p>
<p>However, when a Gingerbread device gets an official ICS updates, with no<br />
 bugs. then, and only then, will we be able to test out those theories.</p>
<p>For those who are concerned about LTE power consumption, all the above<br />
does NOT apply to the power consumed by LTE. The power saved by the OS<br />
on tasks is insignificant compared to the power consumed by the LTE<br />
radio. I&#8217;ve read that Qualcomm (and others) is working on a 28nm LTE<br />
modem embedded in their chipset. Now THAT is what you should be waiting<br />
for before you jump the gun. If it were me, I&#8217;d wait for a device with<br />
the new chip, which should also be powerd by ICS (or later versions). </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an owner of a dual-core, I have to say battery life is way more important to me than HD screen resolution,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an owner of a dual-core, I have to say battery life is way more important to me than HD screen resolution,</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who removes &quot;r u mad bro&quot; comments? It is very annoying but time spent that way is inefficient..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who removes &#8220;r u mad bro&#8221; comments? It is very annoying but time spent that way is inefficient..</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Hartung</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/09/galaxy-nexus-on-verizon-could-have-better-than-expected-battery-life/comment-page-3/#comment-983408</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Hartung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My DroidX can hit this one day and be dead after a couple hours the next. This screen means nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My DroidX can hit this one day and be dead after a couple hours the next. This screen means nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That really does sound true, I think you are right...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That really does sound true, I think you are right&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tyson Bash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyson Bash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought only the GSM version was available so how does this person have an LTE version?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought only the GSM version was available so how does this person have an LTE version?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have no idea what Kellex is replying to because both top comments have been flagged, but I liked his post because Kellex is a boss!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no idea what Kellex is replying to because both top comments have been flagged, but I liked his post because Kellex is a boss!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you retarded?? That&#039;s the point of a Nexus device.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you retarded?? That&#8217;s the point of a Nexus device.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Depends on what the 4G radio is considered part of.  I&#039;d argue it&#039;s probably part of Android OS, but that&#039;s my thought.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends on what the 4G radio is considered part of.  I&#8217;d argue it&#8217;s probably part of Android OS, but that&#8217;s my thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 14:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just because they say the screen is 720p doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;ll have superior quality. 720p is just the resolution, and HD is pretty much a gimmick. Look at the superior quality screen in the Motorola Xoom. That thing is a joke. With all that being said I&#039;m not saying that the G Next won&#039;t have a nice screen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because they say the screen is 720p doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;ll have superior quality. 720p is just the resolution, and HD is pretty much a gimmick. Look at the superior quality screen in the Motorola Xoom. That thing is a joke. With all that being said I&#8217;m not saying that the G Next won&#8217;t have a nice screen.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 13:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[poor mom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>poor mom.</p>
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		<title>By: Prickee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prickee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 13:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Probably better battery life because there is no BLOATWARE LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably better battery life because there is no BLOATWARE LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Ndtigger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ndtigger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I  think that is not true.
Phone idle comsumed 6% of battery capacity.
It means phone idle consumed 57.75mAh (= 1750 x 0.55 x 0.06)
As I know, phone idle consumes under 5mA.
As a result, phone idle consumed the battery for more than 11 hours.

And if the user used browser application for &quot;the surfing&quot; and the picture of &quot;battery use&quot; have to show that application. but it doesn&#039;t.
I can see only android keyboard application 
It does not make sense.
It&#039;s a lie.... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  think that is not true.<br />
Phone idle comsumed 6% of battery capacity.<br />
It means phone idle consumed 57.75mAh (= 1750 x 0.55 x 0.06)<br />
As I know, phone idle consumes under 5mA.<br />
As a result, phone idle consumed the battery for more than 11 hours.</p>
<p>And if the user used browser application for &#8220;the surfing&#8221; and the picture of &#8220;battery use&#8221; have to show that application. but it doesn&#8217;t.<br />
I can see only android keyboard application<br />
It does not make sense.<br />
It&#8217;s a lie&#8230;. </p>
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		<title>By: Ndtigger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ndtigger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that is not true.
Phone idle comsumed 6% of battery capacity.
It means phone idle consumed 57.75mAh (= 1750 x 0.55 x 0.06)
As I know, phone idle consumes under 5mA.
As a result, phone idle consumed the battery for more than 11 hours.

And if the user used browser application for &quot;the surfing&quot; and the picture of &quot;battery use&quot; have to show that application. but it doesn&#039;t.
I can see only android keyboard application 
It does not make sense.
It&#039;s a lie.... 


And if the user used browser application for &quot;the surfing&quot; and the picture of &quot;battery use&quot; have to show that application. but it doesn&#039;t.
Only I can see android keyboard application 
It does not make sense.
It&#039;s a lie.... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that is not true.<br />
Phone idle comsumed 6% of battery capacity.<br />
It means phone idle consumed 57.75mAh (= 1750 x 0.55 x 0.06)<br />
As I know, phone idle consumes under 5mA.<br />
As a result, phone idle consumed the battery for more than 11 hours.</p>
<p>And if the user used browser application for &#8220;the surfing&#8221; and the picture of &#8220;battery use&#8221; have to show that application. but it doesn&#8217;t.<br />
I can see only android keyboard application<br />
It does not make sense.<br />
It&#8217;s a lie&#8230;. </p>
<p>And if the user used browser application for &#8220;the surfing&#8221; and the picture of &#8220;battery use&#8221; have to show that application. but it doesn&#8217;t.<br />
Only I can see android keyboard application<br />
It does not make sense.<br />
It&#8217;s a lie&#8230;. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 04:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Verizon.  Hi.  Significant portion (maybe major majority) in the Android enthusiast community here.
Umm, yeaahhhh.  If you could just go ahead and give us a date that we can give you our money and pick up a Galaxy Nexus, that would be great.
And, before I forget, Friday is Hawaiian shirt day.  So if you&#039;d like you can goa ahead and wear a Hawaiian shirt and jeans.
Peter, can I go ahead and talk to you about those TPS reports?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Verizon.  Hi.  Significant portion (maybe major majority) in the Android enthusiast community here.<br />
Umm, yeaahhhh.  If you could just go ahead and give us a date that we can give you our money and pick up a Galaxy Nexus, that would be great.<br />
And, before I forget, Friday is Hawaiian shirt day.  So if you&#8217;d like you can goa ahead and wear a Hawaiian shirt and jeans.<br />
Peter, can I go ahead and talk to you about those TPS reports?</p>
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