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HTC Vigor Poses for Photo Shoot: 4.3″ 720p HD Screen, 2MP Front Camera, 4G LTE and 1.5GHz Dual-core Processor Confirmed

Is there a better way to confirm the specs of the HTC Vigor (Rezound?)than by looking at its About screen?  Probably not, so let’s do that now.  In a new series of pictures that popped up this morning, we not only get the most current shots of the outside of the device, but under “Hardware Information” we get confirmation on all of the specs our sources told us back in early August.  We have a 1.5GHz dual-core processor, Android 2.3.4, 2MP front camera, Sense 3.5, 8MP rear camera, 4G LTE, and that stunning 4.3″ HD 720p display.

How hot is this phone?  Here’s to hoping the battery life is the real deal.

Gallery after the break.  Profile shots included.    

Via:  Team BAMF

Cheers David!

  • Anonymous

    And here’s hoping that I’ll be able to figure out how to return/sell my POS Thunderbolt and get this bad boy. God I hate “Oh-Shit-I-Can-Upgrade-Today-And-Get-A-4G-Phone-Like-The-Thunderbolt” impulse buys.

  • Anonymous

    The 2nd picture says yes.

  • Anonymous

    Anyone know specifically what snapdragon processor it will have? MSM8960? S4 class?

    • Adamnj77

      supposedly a MSM8660 is what everyone is saying, but nothing has been confirmed definitely.  Still A8 design with adreno 220

  • Lumpysherman

    This or the Prime will be my next phone. So long Moto, you’re no longer in the running.

  • Adam Wiggins

    Were those pictures taken by an iph*ne 4?  Anyone else feel dirty?

  • Anonymous

    This is my next phone.

  • Comotrz

    Ugly ass phone.  Bionic is better..

    • http://www.facebook.com/borgey401 Andrew Borges

      yeah then you woke up. locked bootloader and blur = epic fail

      • Comotrz

        Wrong.  Old processor overclocked to try and perform like a far superior chip in the Bionic = Fail.  Bionic = better

        • Anonymous

          I was just thinking the same thing. On both counts. On top of the ugly lines and sticky looking back, it looks cheap…

          • LionStone

            Ugly lines!? Are you sure you’re not confusing this with the Bionic? HTC has smooth, sexy lines…Bionic has hard, blocky lines.

          • Comotrz

            He was talking about those HUGE lines on the back of the device!!!  There is nothing smooth and sexy about this HTC phone.  It looks like it was designed by Fisher Price!

          • Anonymous

            it’s preference, and I know lots of people like that soft round curvey look. Personally i like electronics and cell phones in particular to have angular lines. (reminds me of debates over sony remote controls versus ones from say AudioVox or RCA) HTC lines remind me of a bar of soap a lot. They always seem like they want to fly out of my hands. I had the ThunderBolt and G1 though, so those two might not be the best example of HTC’s best work…
            and ironically I AM using the Bionic now, and loving the return to angular blocky design.

          • LionStone

            Well there ya go sir! I’ll buy that…glad you like your Bionic!

          • Anonymous

            HTC devices have the same designs.

          • Sporttster

            I happen to really like the looks of this phone,front and back….looks sharp to me!

        • Anonymous

          See my post above. Google is your friend. The S3 is not an old processor by any means, and in fact substantially outperforms the 4430 in your beloved Bionic. 

          • Seri141

            You are so wronng on this one pal. It does NOT out perform the Bionic. -10 points for making up crap. 

          • Seri141

            You are so wronng on this one pal. It does NOT out perform the Bionic. -10 points for making up crap. 

          • Anonymous

            Read it and weep my friend. -20 for making up crap and being a douche.

            http://www.qualcomm.com/documents/files/snapdragon-msm8x60-apq8060-product-brief.pdf

          • Techieguru

            Seriously, you’re going to try and back your claim up with an AD from Qualcomm???? You loose on this one.  The OMAP is the preferred chip by Google for ICS which shows that it was chosen because it is a far surperior processesor.  This will be a decent phone but the Bionic and Prime will be better.

          • Anonymous

            Okay, better is a matter of opinion. So, if you think OMAP is better, that’s your opinion, and you are certainly entitled to it.

            Try comparing that spec sheet (not add) to TI’s OMAP spec sheet.  Self explanatory.

            The fact that OMAP is the reference processor for ICS does not by any any means show that it is a better processor.  It just shows that Google chose that processor as reference for this version of Android.  Unless, of course, you have a link or some evidence to post where Google says that OMAP is in fact a better processor.

            The original post to which I replied was claiming that this is an old, overclocked chip that is attempting to compete with the “far superior” chip in the Bionic.  I think I made my case.

          • Firestarter

            He said the OMAP is far superior becasue it is!  Its a fact!

          • Anonymous

            Okay.  You say it’s fact. Where’s your proof? In fact, why don’t you just say why you believe it’s superior?

          • Firestarter

            Uh cause its faster, more efficient, and just plain better!!!!  I can’t teach you about technology in a post but do a little homework on your own and you’ll learn.

          • Anonymous

            Okay, I did.  Where’s your proof it’s faster?  I certainly can’t find any. 

            And as for efficiency, the S3 can asynchronously adjust each core’s clock speed and voltage, among other enhancements over a standard A9/OMAP.  This leads to significant power savings. Where’s a link to something showing OMAP is better at power efficiency?

          • Firestarter

            You couldn’t have done that much in 4 minutes. If I was like you (not having a job and being able to spend all day trolling tech sites from my mother’s basement) I’d show you but I don’t have that luxery.  Since you are the only trying to fight the truth, I can assume most people have the knowledge so I don’t have to waste my time on one person who can’t figure things out for themselves.

          • Anonymous

            How is discussing the positive aspects of the chip set in the phone that is the subject of the article trolling?  In fact, it is you who is trolling.

            Trust me, I have researched this topic plenty- 4minutes doesn’t even scratch the surface.

            Like you, most people have OPINIONS.  Knowledge is something very different.  I have provided plenty of facts; you have done nothing but try to shoot them down with opinion.  So again, where are the facts to back up your claims?

            I have found that, in an argument, when people resort to personal attacks like you (which in this case could not be further from the truth), it is because they cannot point to evidence to back up their respective claims. Sound familiar?

          • Gingerkid22

            Uh like you calling someone a douche a few posts back.  you have no credibility here and you lose.

          • Anonymous

            My comment was in response to being called a liar, when in fact I have proven my point with evidence over and over again. The person who tried to call me out had nothing but insults to back him up. That is being a douche.  My comment was true.

            Firestarter’s comments were not true by a long shot.  He was proved wrong, and instead of admitting it or providing contrary evidence, he chose to make a false, personal attack. 

            My credibility is quite intact; I lost nothing.

          • ITworksNJ

            Not really.  You haven’t proved anything like you claim.  You need to just admit your wrong and move on.  If you were as smart as you claim you are you would know that you are wrong and jump off your sinking ship.  There really is no debate over whether the OMAP is superior becasue it is.  Everyone that has knowledge of these proccessros knows that.  The OMAP may not “blow” the ARM in the HTC, but it is definitely a superior chip.

          • Anonymous

            If you’re right, please point me in the direction of the evidence (benchmarks, real world performance, etc.). So far, I can find the MSM8660 pulling nearly 50 Mflops in stock configuration- where does the 4430 fall?

          • Anonymous

            just compare the bionic with the htc 3d and you will see which one its better. That is the same processor that will have the rezound lol

          • Sporttster

            Good grief….stop arguing, do what he says and provide proof! Pretty easy stuff here…if ya got it,show it! If not,concede he’s right and move on….

          • Anonymous

            He is a snapdragon fat fanboy. We have to leave him believe what he wants lol

          • Armydude

            Hahaha He said Google choosing it doesn’t mean its a better processor!!! Then why the hell would Google choose it!!!

          • Anonymous

            Actually, last year Google said it would use chips from a different manufacturer as reference for each new version of Android.  As for ICS, it could have to do with projected availability, or the fact that Google knew of its plans to buy Moto (which almost exclusively uses OMAP) when making this choice, or a myriad other reasons.

            The truth is, you have no idea as to why Google chose OMAP for the ICS reference processor. If I’m wrong, please provide a link.

          • Armydude

            Your right, Google must have chosen it just for shits and giggles.  google doesn’t do things like that.  they did their research and determned the OMAP was the best processer for the job.

          • Anonymous

            I think there are plenty of alternative reasons for Google’s choice of processor.  I provided one plausible reason, and “shits and giggles” is not it. How do you know what Google’s thought process is?  We both know that you are making an assumption.

          • Armydude

            Its common sense dude!

          • Anonymous

            Common sense? Thank you. You just proved that your “assumption” is just that, an assumption with nothing other than speculation to back it up. 

            Show me some evidence, and I’ll be the first to admit that I am wrong and you are right.  Until that time, it is pointless to argue- you have expressed your OPINION clearly.

          • Armydude

            Lets take a look at the thought process here.  So google who makes the software decided to pick a chip for its operating system based on what? Maybe performance?  Hello,  I am also making that “assumption” based on the info you can get from an article on this very site if you really wanted to do your precious research like you claim.

            So you may say I’m assuming things, but so are you.  You are assuming that google would not decide to choose the best processesor for best performance for its OP which is wrong.

            You can put lipstick on a pig all you want but its still a pig….

          • Anonymous

            I’m sure performance is one of MANY factors that Google uses in it’s decision making process.  I doubt very much it is the only one.

            Yes you are right, it is quite unheard of in this industry to sacrifice performance for anything else, right?  Why didn’t the Bionic come with the 4460 or 4470 if that’s the case?

            I don’t claim to know what was behind Google’s thought process. Nobody but Google, and perhaps TI know. That’s my point. You don’t know that the OMAP is superior just because Google chose it for reference.

            In the meantime, I have provided hard specs.  That’s evidence.  You have provided only opinion and pigs in lipstick. You claim that the OMAP is a superior processor.  You still haven’t pointed to a tangible fact to support that claim.

          • Armydude

            I don’t have to, its a fact….

          • Anonymous

            Okay.  It’s fact because you say so.  I get it.

          • Anonymous

            because the bionic decided to go with 1mgz instead of overclocking it. the prime will use the 1.5 and omap 460 along with ICS. Everything has it’s purpose :)

          • Anonymous

            great post lol

          • Anonymous

            tegra its better than snapdragon get over it

          • Anonymous

            I coulld not said that any better. Google chose this over Exynos as well :) prime will be better because it will have not an old gpu it will still have the A9 1.5 mgz and omap 460 :) I still will not get a samsung device due to it’s saturation and the plastic feel.

          • Anonymous

            Go look up real performance tests instead of sourcing marketing material, until then please refrain from making idiotic claims to suit your bias.

          • Anonymous

            I did.  Here you go:

            http://www.droidgamers.com/index.php/game-news/hardware-a-devices/1661?tmpl=component&type=raw

            The opinion of this writer is obviously up for debate, but the chip set features and numbers speak for themselves.

            Also, here:

            http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/dual-core-snapdragon-gpu-performance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/1

            And this phone was set up for GPU testing, not CPU testing.

            I don’t have a bias- like most people out there, I want the best performing chip set in any phone I get.  Convert me:  How about finding real performance tests that support your argument? I looked, but can’t find any.

          • Anonymous

            You are the only one fooling yourself believing that lol

        • Anonymous

          See my post above. Google is your friend. The S3 is not an old processor by any means, and in fact substantially outperforms the 4430 in your beloved Bionic. 

  • Cantuckee

    now that my thunderbolt has BAMF on it, with sense 3.0 I do enjoy it now, so I’ll pass….root…how I missed you from my DINC days

  • Mike Johnson

    I will not buy another HTC phone unless someone assures me the battery will make it thru the day with normal usage

    • http://profiles.google.com/robert.macri Robert Macri

      The Incredible 2 has great battery life, but you’re right, the rest of the HTC phones are pretty bad when it comes to battery life.

  • http://jeftek.com Jef

    The only hold out I have for this device is,  does it support NFC?  With Google wallet taking off,   I’d hate to have a phone that couldn’t take advantage of it.

  • http://twitter.com/pigsdroidworld JD Davis

    That’s not what we’ve been lead to believe 3.5 looks like. Interesting that it looks like Sense 3.0, but in the build.prop it says 3.5. Also, “dualcore”? All lower case with no spaces? Really? I’m doubting the veracity of these screens.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=579466134 Landon Bakken

      you are thinking of the 3.5 from the bliss. it was redesigned for tmobile.  this is the actual 3.5 from the runnymede and, now, the vigor

      • http://twitter.com/muffnman Muffnman

        But will the Bliss clock/dashboard widget be available in the HTC Widget picker for all Sense users?

  • Bionicman

    wow it is sense 3.5! nice! i gave back my Bionic because of too many issues. this is looking great to me :) :)

  • Guttatae22

    I just can’t wait to get this phone

  • Kixofmyg0t

    1.5 Ghz dual core A8 and LTE…..and a 1600mAh battery?

    Enjoy the maybe 3 hour battery life people. Im calling it now that itll have worse battery life than the Thunderbolt.

    • http://www.facebook.com/borgey401 Andrew Borges

      Yeah because you’ve tested it out right? Yeah you must have forgot that dual core processors use less battery. LTE on the other hand is another story tho. So if anything it will even each other out, and it’s OK they make these little devices you plug in the wall called a charger. PROBLEM SOLVED!

      • Anonymous

        my iPhone doesn’t need to be plugged into the wall to get through a typical day!

        • Biblo

          I didn’t know your i*hone has LTE.

          • LionStone

            LOL…nice

          • Anonymous

            It does….. didn’t you know it was the i*hone 4 and obviously that means 4G.  At least that is what tons of clueless; yet trendy, i*hone users I know have told me.  I guess Apple will have the “5G’ capability with the i*hone 5 before any carrier even gets the technology.  Now that is innovation lol

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Glen-Newman/1534179105 Glen Newman

          Neither does my Droid X. My next phone absolutely needs to get through a day withouth needing to be plugged in. I should not, and will not, keep a charger everywhere I go because I’m worried about my phone dying on me halfway through the day – that’s why I passed on the TBolt. I returned my Bionic because of the screen. I can wait for a phone to come out. Now, if this thing can make it through a day, then i’m onboard.

          • Anonymous

            the droid razor will be nice

        • Anonymous

          This phone craps out I?hone 4’s.

        • keep dreamin

          the only reason i can come up with for i*hone fan boy to be spending time on this site is if they were dreaming they had something better then their “smart” phone for dummies

        • Sp4rxx

          …and your iPhone can’t do 4G or have dual core …. so what’s your point?

          • Anonymous

            i give the display to the iphone, but i want to see it on a 4,3 display to see if it will look just as good.

        • http://profiles.google.com/danstheman600 Daniel Sasson

          my droid incredible doesnt but get out of here. Why are you on this website just to troll. I actually just wifi tethered for 6 hours and i have 51% haha. but seriously dont talk about that piece of dump phone that you dont have to charge because it cant do any heavy processes or have 4g lte.

          • Anonymous

            that is not lte tool

        • Anonymous

          Your iPhone also doesn’t have a 4.3″ screen,an HD screen, LTE, a dual-core processor, etc. 

          Enjoy your battery life trollboy and the rest of us will enjoy an actually useful phone.

        • Anonymous

          But your stuck with an iphone

        • Anonymous

          BE GONE FOUL TROLL!

        • Anonymous

          you have a girly device lol grow some balls

        • The REAL Steve Jobs

          Impostor!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001458670467 Tyler Cameron

        Yes… But HTC phones are KNOWN for having the worst battery life ever. (Droid Incredible? Thunderbolt? EVO 4G?)

    • Anonymous

      The S3/MSM8660 is not an A8, it’s a custom processor running ARM instructions. If you did some research on it, you would find that it performs 60% better than a similarly-clocked, standard A9 (yes, including OMAP 4430/4460) while expending less power. 

      • Anonymous

        It is either an A8 or an A9. There is really no other option unless its running a shitty old ARM 11 which is not happening. Maybe you should do some research.

        • Anonymous
          • Anonymous

            Where are all the haters now saying its outdated?

          • Anonymous

            LOL, never believe a company’s marketing lingo.  Qualcomm’s custom designs are faster than a standard A8 but they are not faster than an A9; benchmarks and actual performance tests have proven this.

          • Anonymous

            What “actual performance test” are you talking about?  Real world mobile device user experiences are due to much more than chip set and clock speed.

            As for CPU benchmarks, every one I have seen for this chip set (at factory settings) has been right around 50Mflops, while every OMAP 4 benchmark has been in the low 40’s.  Which benchmarks are you talking about?

        • snapdragonFan

          Desert_Eagle_50 is right, Qualcomm purchased the rights to make their own processor based on the ARM architecture instead of buying a sythensizable A8/A9…And I’ve done my research.

          • Anonymous

            You are so lost even more than the series lost lol, go back to africa

        • Anonymous

          they want to make this devices good regardless if it has bad specs or mediocre ones lol

      • http://androidnexus.com Ryan

        It’s an A8

        • Anonymous

          Really?  Qualcomm doesn’t make a dual-core A8.  Read my link. It’s self explanatory.

          • Anonymous

            Yes they do. I wanted to believe, really, but all the documentation out there that isn’t a Qualcomm press release says its A8 based. Which make me sad since I wanted this. 

            I does do video benchmarks better than Tegra2,but CPU benchmarks, not so much.

          • Anonymous

            Qualcomm’s Scorpion cores are designed in-house.  They are custom architecture- not A8 or A9, however they do run the ARM instruction set. That’s why the Qualcomm literature says so- they designed it, they ought to know.

          • Anonymous

            Do you believe in commercials too? How about the tooth fairy. Don’t go to Qualcomm’s marketing, go to Google. It may be customized, but it’s a customized A8.

          • Anonymous

            another lost pigeon lol

      • Anonymous

        Is there any real world proof that it’s 60% better. I’ve been googling all 4 for weeks and I’ve yet to see any confirmation of that, regardless of qualcomm’s press materials. Certainly in real world-ish tests it seems competitive at best. I don’t know what ARM or Qualcomm’s business models or pricing structures are but the way I see it, if you’re going to remake an old design to compete with a new design and come out with something simply competitive, then you may as well have just bought the newer design and saved yourself the R&D.

        I could be wrong, maybe the Sensation being a laggy mess doesn’t mean anything, and the Evo 3D and mytouch 4g slide only being able to keep up just behind tegra II devices is just a coinky dink. Maybe Sense’s sheer girth is holding the chips back.

        • Anonymous

          I would think that each rom/screen set-up would effect performance differently, as would the other relevant conditions (# of running apps, which apps are running, which version of which skin (if any) is running, etc).  As I have said, I do think that much more goes into a user experience besides the raw power of the chip set. In fact, I remember when Froyo came out, the phones with Qualcomm chips showed much more dramatic improvement than the OMAPs.  That wasn’t because the Qualcomm chip was suddenly more powerful, it was because Froyo was optimized for that chipset. Since ICS will be optimized for OMAP, I suspect that those OMAP devices upgrading will see a much bigger performance increase than the S3s.  How wide the gap is remains to be seen.

          I do disagree that the S3 is “recycled” technology, or that it barely keeps up.  Every CPU benchmark I have seen has shown the S3 pushing almost 10 more Mflops then the OMAP 4.  This is likely due in large part to the 128-bit pipeline vs. the 64-bit pipeline in the OMAP.

          As far as graphics go, Engadget did a full review of the Bionic upon release, and it scored almost 10fps less than the Vigor in Nenamark, even though the Vigor was pushing 2.5x the pixels. I have also seen Nenamark scores for the Bionic that are higher than that.  I think this further shows that user experience is influenced by implementation just as much as anything else. 

          In terms of power saving, the S3 can asynchronously adjust clock speed and voltage for each core.  I think this is a huge advantage- one that OMAP cannot match.

          I’m not saying the OMAP is a crappy chip set at all; I’m saying that S3 is a powerful chip set and to dismiss it as an “old, outdated, A8″ is simply incorrect.

          We can debate all day long about which chip is “better”- that’s a matter of opinion.  But the actual performance specifications that I have seen for the S3 so far are very compelling.

          • Anonymous

            Are you still trusting benchmarks lol? You are an idiot

          • Anonymous

            For the record I’ve seen both Tegra II AND the other Omap4 devices generate better scores than the bionic and the vigor…at least from what I can gather on a quick google search, I suppose that’s the nature of benchmarks. It’s also why I explicitly said real world…though in retrospect till some intrepid tinkerer swaps the chips in a sensation or something I guess it can’t really be tested. Still 60%? Sounds like marketing hype to me

      • Anonymous

        yea right that is an old version of snapdragon lol. You are fooling yourself

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1133127578 Randy Luna

      i doubt the battery life will be any shorter

    • Anonymous

      worse battery due to the hd display, A8 cortex what a joke.

  • Aaron Sauer

    Looks pretty good. I don’t love the grooves on the back though. Seems like things will collect in there very easily.

  • Dave

    I wonder how’s the battery…I get the feeling that’ll be a major deciding factor for a lot of people here. I’m still going to wait for the Nexus Prime or whatever it’s called on Verizon. But this looks like a strong offering from HTC.

  • Josh0368

    Lol a week ago all of you were cumming in your pants for this phone now the pics and specs get released/confirmed and nobody wants it! Stop reading this site and go back to trolling engadget please!

    • Superior1

      I was thinking the exact same thing. If it’s not one thing to complain about it’s another. RIDICULOUS!!!!!

    • http://twitter.com/QSMinSD Q

      It was the same with the Bionic.  People have an idea in their head of what these superphones will be and then when they turn out to simply be phones, the hate begins..  I expect the same thing when the Prime gets close to release.

      • Anonymous

        it will happen with every device

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1386061282 Kristian Tzokanow

    Will this phone be coming with 1GB of ram?

  • guest

    Eff that…wrong Micro charger.  

  • BionicCommando3214

    Holy finger smudges Batman!

    What’s up with the army green? Just the camera’s pallet?

    Now we have better specifics, time to start dumping on it, how much they failed, and vowing we will wait for the next device

  • Anonymous

    Does it have MHL or HDMI out?

  • http://twitter.com/icecolddemon Phil Oakley

    To the people saying “No HDMI out?” this thing will have MHL, just like the Sensation does.

  • Aaron Thomas

    So other than the screen being a little better and the processor being a lot faster isn’t this basically the same as the thunderbolt? At least if they upgrade the TB to 2.3 and sense 3.5.

  • Christianpeso

    Looks good. But still a pass for me. The og Droid has blessed me the strength of patience. Looking for that nexus device. Need vanilla android and the ability to hack my device.

  • compchick813

    Now we just need an accessories leak.  I really hope it has a car dock.

  • Thisphonesucksdontbuyit

    this is lame… Condensed and slightly beefed up thunderbolt. Very incremental upgrade (I.E. Apple)   no thanks. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/joseph.a.yager Joseph A. Yager

      I would recommend you don’t buy this phone then.  Problem solved!

    • Josh0368

      Lol it will be the best specced phone that Verizon will have for a loooonnng time trust me

      • Anonymous

        You mean like two weeks later when the Prime comes out?

      • Anonymous

        The bionic still will be king when this garbage comes out. The only device that will the bionic spot will be droid razor. Let see the sales :)

        • Anonymous

          Nexus will take that spot. Just wait to see sales. By that time the bionic will probably be like 100 bucks anyway so maybe it will sell more because of that.

          • Anonymous

            I feel droid razor will be the best seller this year, it has to sell a lot on December before the year end

          • Anonymous

            If its even out by then. Hopefully won’t be delayed like the bionic.

          • Anonymous

            I hope so because that device will be so nice

    • Anonymous

      I think. 1.5ghz dual core, hd screen, and maybe prolly more ram is a significant improvement. If the battery sux though none if this is worth it. Battery life is one of the most important things to me.

      • Anonymous

        1.5 cpu improvement but an old gpu

    • Anonymous

      how is this a “slightly” beefed up thunderbolt? The CPU in itself is a huge improvement:

      TB = 1ghz single core CPU
      Vigor = 1.5ghz dual core CPU

      Next biggest upgrade is the screen:

      TB = 4.3″ 480×800 (216.97 ppi)
      Vigor = 4.3″ 720×1280 (341.54 ppi)

      It went from a terrible screen to a screen that surpasses iphone’s retina display.

      Other upgrades include bigger battery, more memory, and latest sense 3.5 just to name a few. All at the cost of losing a kickstand.

      This is by no means a “slightly” beefed up thunderbolt.

      • Anonymous

        Nail on the head!!!

      • LionStone

        Agreed…except TB screen is nice and upgrading to a kick ass screen!

        • Anonymous

          Thunderbolt, incredible 1 and 2 have nice display. That is the only thing i give htc lol. The colors of their display looks natural the iphone as well

      • Anonymous

        TB screen isn’t terrible at all. One of the nicest ones you can get that’s not SAMOLED.

        • Anonymous

          I like all htc display better than samsung. I also love the one on droid, droidx and droid2

      • Anonymous

        OLD GPU LOL

  • http://www.DavidPat.com David Pat

    These new phones aren’t good enough to move people away from the Bionic. Especially when the Bionic is starting to get really cheap. These phones are going to be at least $600 for those getting em outta contract whereas the Bionic is under $500 now…

    Ppl need to learn to Amazon Wireless or eBay
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/250895873484?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_839wt_1344

    • LionStone

      Bro, this phone and the Bionic are pretty similar in specs…but they are worlds apart, one being made by Moto and they other by hTc. People are already posting they are either giving up their Bionics or waiting out for this (or also the Nexus).

  • http://twitter.com/Rocko9999 Rocko Smith

    Would it kill someone to clean the screen before taking pics?

    • HDDroid

      I agree and where is the white version???

    • Vanilla Ice

      hahaha agreed!^ Wow this phone looks even better then the leaked photo’s a month back.

      1.5 GHz Dual-Core, 1 GB of RAM, 720p HD Screen on a 4.3″ Screen. I will be first in line for this monster just like i was for the OG Droid. This phoneis worth holding on to for 2 years.

      • Anonymous

        Agree it looks really good a different look than all the motos and samsungs.

        • krownroyal

          its a Thunderbolt with a different backside!!! The top looks the same as a tbolt and the volume rocker looks the same but still a nice phone. 

          • Anonymous

            The front looks like a sensation not a tb.

          • Anonymous

            finally we agree on something lol

          • Anonymous

            and the back looks like an incredible

          • Anonymous

            I thought this was going to be my next phone but I better wait for the Nexus Prime… dont get me wrong it has great specs but dont like the style of the phone, maybe in white. ….

          • Anonymous

            every device in white will look nice fool

          • Anonymous

            it doesnt look anything like a thunderbolt so stop comparing it smfh

      • Anonymous

        old gpu lol go right ahead

    • http://www.facebook.com/japultra Jason Nguyen

      He probably left it on there on purpose to prove that it wasn’t photoshopped.

      • Anonymous

        or he probably got lazy

        • http://www.facebook.com/japultra Jason Nguyen

          Well, I don’t hear anyone crying “Photoshop!” so… only he knows ;)

    • Anonymous

      I agree, it makes it look bad for a photo, but i’m just glad we got some better leaked shots of it running. Can’t wait. Kudos to Team BAMF

    • palomosan

      Still looks good all covered up in dirt, you sexy thing, cant wait to get you dirty too.

    • TRU2040

      lol, i was thinking the same thing!

    • Anonymous

      gotta keep the “hushed” feel

  • Anonymous

    Where’s sense 3.5?  Also, why does everyone call it 720p when all lcd screens are progressive?!?!?

    • http://www.facebook.com/joseph.a.yager Joseph A. Yager

      What would you have them call it?

      • Anonymous

        how about 720?  It used to make sense to call it 720p for tv’s because they could be interlaced.  LCD phone screens it makes no sense.  Have you ever seen a 720i phone screen?

        • http://www.facebook.com/joseph.a.yager Joseph A. Yager

          It is what it is

    • http://twitter.com/icecolddemon Phil Oakley

      I reckon this thing will get ICS out of the box, so the current OS is just a placeholder.

    • Anonymous

      It looks like Sense 3.5 to me. I ran a Sense 3.5 Rom on my inc2 based on the Runneymede. Looked like this. You may be thinking of the tmobile mySense 3.5 that we all saw in video here a while back.

      • Anonymous

        I see it has sense 3.5, but for some reason I thought 3.5 looks like what’s on the Rhyme (which I kind of thought looked nice and simplified, sense, not the phone itself.)

        • Anonymous

          Sense 3.5 isn’t really that much different from 3.0. The Weather app is a little better. A couple more lockscreen options. Tab interface has changed a little.

          mySense from the Ryme…T-Mobile took Sense 3.5 and modified it to their liking. So the interface is different. mySense mod is available for Inc2 so I assume it will be available for this phone once rooted.

  • Anonymous

    Looks nice.  I’d like to know the screen technology being used.  I also wonder why there is no HDMI out.

  • http://twitter.com/James_C_L James C. L.

    Please be atleast 1700mAh battery

    • Anonymous

      supposedly just 1620….should say plenty.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Forte/542650247 Michael Forte

    Looks just as thick as the Thunderbolt and probably has the battery life to match too.

    • Anonymous

      Looks thinner to me and much more tapered around the edges.

  • http://twitter.com/QSMinSD Q

    No HDMI?  
    Do not Want.  Bionic’s HDMI Mirroring rules and the Webtop is one of those little things you dont use a lot, but is extremely cool.

    • http://www.facebook.com/borgey401 Andrew Borges

      The idea of Webtop has a lot of potential but is WAYYYY to buggy at the moment. I am sure HTC will have an adapter to do HDMI mirroring just like Samsung does. It’s the norm these days so why would they not do it?

      • http://twitter.com/QSMinSD Q

        They said that about the Thunderbolt.. It didnt have an adapter.. ALso, I havent had any issues with the webtop other than it’s kinda slow.. no bugs though.  I have the HD Dock connect to the 32″ in my bedroom.  It works great for basic computer tasks.  It’s great because I dont have a PC in my bedroom, and with the Bionic, I just need to throw it in the Dock and now I has a computer.. albiet a slow one..

        • Anonymous

          The webdock it is like lte it has not matured as of yet, but Moto came out with that idea. They also came out with the dual core idea, zumocast and the wonderful ddr2 of ram that the bionic has. For me that is the best feature ever :) I read the iphone 5 will have ddr3 of ram things will get interesting.

      • Anonymous

        Maybe it will have MHL tv out, which I dislike. Hdmi out is much easier.

      • Anonymous

        HTC uses DLNA streaming now instead of HDMI. The T-Bolt supports DLNA as well instead of HDMI-out.

        I like Samsung’s MHL better because it allows HDMI-out while also charging the device.

        • Anonymous

          How about both? Even the first Droid X had HDMI out and DLNA.

          • Chris Gram

            I really want to know who in the world is actually using the HDMI out. Unless you have a dock and really feel like you’re going to use it all the time to show off your pics or whatever, it’s pretty freaking useless and expensive; expensive part being the cable and dock.

          • Anonymous

            My friend uses it to watch Netflix and HBO Go a few hours every day. Don’t ask me why, cause he’s got a xbox for that too but he’s broken 5GBs in 5 days this month. I use it to throw pics and videos on the screen instead of passing my phone around the room. Neither of us have docks but the cable were from the original DX. Cables are $7 now, though yeah it was about $70 when we got them back last year.

          • Anonymous

            My grammar was incorrect – I meant I prefer MHL to normal HDMI-out. Wireless is the future and should be standard, but fortunately that means all that is required is the software to support the transport protocols (i.e. DLNA server and client software). So, yes, DLNA should be included on everything and shouldn’t take much effort to do so either.

            If I were to have a hardware port on my phone, I’d prefer one that supports MHL to a raw HDMI-out because then I get the bonus of charging the device while it is plugged in, too.

          • Anonymous

            Ditto.

          • Anonymous

            My grammar was incorrect – I meant I prefer MHL to normal HDMI-out. Wireless is the future and should be standard, but fortunately that means all that is required is the software to support the transport protocols (i.e. DLNA server and client software). So, yes, DLNA should be included on everything and shouldn’t take much effort to do so either.

            If I were to have a hardware port on my phone, I’d prefer one that supports MHL to a raw HDMI-out because then I get the bonus of charging the device while it is plugged in, too.

      • Anonymous

        I use webtop mainly as a LTE computer with no subscription fees. I got the lapdock (it’s $170 by the way, not $299, they give you $100 credit and then a discount) and have been using it in cars, a beach, and parks. Works great, and charges the phone too.

      • Anonymous

        An adapter lol , why will they need that?

    • Anonymous

      I keep telling these people that the bionic has a lot of nice features. It also has the best sound quality, the build quality it is not as good as the droidx but no device on earth does :) maybe the iphone lol. Zumocast, hdmi mirror webtop only moto devices have them :)

  • Tyrelsackett

    No HDMI out = fail

  • Blackttc6

    Same processor as the Bionic?

    • http://www.facebook.com/borgey401 Andrew Borges

      No the Bionic has an OMAP and this has a Snapdragon…. The OMAP is without a doubt the superior proc.

    • Anonymous

      no, Snapdragon…should perform about the same though.

  • Bewara2009

    does this phone have hdmi mirror? 

    • http://www.facebook.com/borgey401 Andrew Borges

      I really hope so, I don’t see a HDMI out on it but hopefully there will be a adapter to like some of the Samsung devices have.

      • Bewara2009

        I forgot it does have a hdmi its the micro usb and micro hdmi in one…But still no conformation on the hdmi mirror.. I hope so because I love showing it off when ppl come over and have it hook on my 55″ led hdtv ;) 

        • Anonymous

          I assume it will have MHL mirroring via micro usb like most new HTC devices.

  • KSAT

    No HDMI Out??

  • Anonymous

    No HDMI out?

    • http://twitter.com/Jubmasterflex Jubby Salhi

      This. If there is one thing Motorola seems to do right, its adding this feature to it’s current lineup.

    • Spike760

      You can probably do it from microUSB to HDMI

    • Anonymous

      It has MHL which is essentially HDMI built into the micro-USB.  It’s just like the Galaxy S2 phones. In a way, MHL is essentially better. No need to build on that second HDMI port into a phone. This is the future of video-out, not micro-HDMI.

      • Anonymous

        Plus MHL charges over HDMI :)

      • MOTOX

        wait…. so what do you use to get it to hdmi… you need the mhl to hdmi cable like the one for the sgs2 right? so they might sell this from htc? I hope this is the awesome phone they have finally worked hard on…the thunderbolt and my incred were a wreck..

  • Anonymous

    I like it. As an original Incredible user due for an upgrade in the early months of 2012, this could be an ideal replacement. Though, admittedly, a Nexus device might be more attractive.

  • http://www.facebook.com/borgey401 Andrew Borges

    Now my only question is. Will we have a factory OEM unlock right out of the box? 

    • Anonymous

      They actually aren’t fully unlocking bootloaders like that.  Partial unlocks to my knowledge.

      • http://www.facebook.com/borgey401 Andrew Borges

        BLEH!!!!!! I guess it’s better then nothing tho!

  • Superior1

    This is my next phone I hope. :)

  • http://www.twitter.com/slinky317 slinky317

    At least they’re not using version of Sense that appears on the Rhyme.  The looks of that almost made me swear off HTC permanently if that was the design they were moving towards.

    • Anonymous

      It is Sense 3.5. :P

      • http://www.twitter.com/slinky317 slinky317

        Haha, yep, just saw that.  I meant the design/look of Sense 3.5 that we saw on the Rhyme.  (I edited my original post to clarify)

  • http://www.facebook.com/cush2push Geoff Wightman

    specs are nice other than that i will pass  not a big fan of sense 

    • Fallsgable

      Why is SENSE OR BLUR such a problem with so many of you?
      Just get rid of it and install LPP or GO, like the rest of us…
      It seems that the specs should outweigh that?
      I just don’t understand!

      • http://www.facebook.com/borgey401 Andrew Borges

        Because the reason OEMs used to use something like Sense UI is back when on Cupcake or Donut Android NEEDED it to make it functional. Now that it’s a stable OS there’s no damn need for it. I do like Sense UI but absolutely hate that Blur crap. Even tho I do prefer vanilla over anything. Bottom line is there is no need for skins anymore, it should be an option when you buy or at least have a toggle switch to turn off like the DROID Eris had.

        • Anonymous

          First of all, Sense has been around longer than Android, so it has nothing to do with making something functional. HTC does it to market their phones, and brand them differently than another manufacturer’s device.

          I honestly don’t see how you could be a fan of Vanilla Android, but like Sense more than Blur. That makes no sense, considering Blur is almost non-existent if you don’t use Moto widgets and slap a different launcher on your phone. Good luck doing that with Sense, which is always in your face.

  • tjmonkey15

    We better get some more concrete info regarding the Nexus/Prime soon or I may end up getting this instead.

  • Dan

    Doesn’t look too thick either

  • Anonymous

    Did HTC switch to a more true widescreen like Moto? =( Not a fan of that. I dig the old wider portrait mode.

  • Keith Sumner

    HTC build quality = meh, HTC battery life, especially considering HD screen, 4G/LTE, and from the looks of it a small battery = meh, sense = meh. The phone is ugly and I am highly skeptical of the battery lasting a respectable amount of time.

    • Anonymous

      it is like having a sensation with LTE

  • Anonymous

    She’s pushing maximum density.. otherwise specs look solid. Super LCD screen like Dinc2?

  • Jason Purp

    Oh Jesus I want this thing inside of me.

    But the Nexus will be better.

    And I’m upset that I can’t see how awesome the 720p screen is from these pictures.

    • Andrew Akker

      @ 341 PPI, it’ll be a *higher* pixel density than the iPhone. That’s going to look pretty stunning.

      • TJ Egan

        Just curious, how will the Nexus be better? Haven’t read much on it, been mainly anticipating this phone

        • Anonymous

          Nexus will have new OMAP processor, same screen resolution but SAMOLED+ (think SGS2 quality), NFC, LTE, and new Ice Cream Sandwich OS. Not to mention it is a Nexus phone so will have google support from day 1.

          • Vanilla Ice

            And most nexus users will root or use a launcher because Vanilla android gets boring after a while. And plastic feeling phones feel like shit and makes you want to cry when you drop it. 

          • Anonymous

            If you actually owned a GS II you would think different, i’ve own the  G1, OG droid, iphone 3GS, HD2, G2, HTC sensation and the GS II. GS II is the best phone ive ever had period.  (performance, screen, speakers, etc. )

          • Anonymous

            you are stupid or what? nobody beats Moto speaker wise nor signal wise as well periodddd

          • Jam120992

            vanilla android does feel out dated graphic wise, so i really hope they did a lot of polishing up for ics

          • Anonymous

            I hate those plastic devices, no devices out there have come close of beating the build quality of the droid x and also how professional it looks :)

          • Irie5447

            also have a 4.5″ screen I think!

          • Anonymous

            It will also has a bad saturated display

      • Jam120992

        th super amoled hd screen that was released in Korea has 316 ppi which is less than the iphone 4(326ppi) and its the 4.65in display, so how do you know the nexus will have a higher pixel density?? i wonder what the vigors is ?

  • http://www.facebook.com/borgey401 Andrew Borges

    I MUZT HAZ NAOOWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Anonymous

      NFC? I know VZW is not ready to Roll out Services yet… but I do want an NFC chip in my next phone