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Wednesday Poll: Rooted or Non-Rooted?

We like to ask this question every few months just to see where our readers stand on the rooted phone front.  As we continue to shape our coverage as we see trends, fit, and reader requests, this is the question we probably get the most from.  And this time, we’ve added some specifics.  Let us know!

Rooted or Non-Rooted?

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  • David Narada Brown

    Galaxy nexus rooted. I rooted because we all know how slow verizon is with updates, so i stopped waiting. I think i will be rooting for a long time.

  • MicroDOC

    I’ve upgraded to 4.5.573 using dxgbrooting.zip. Is there a way
    to go to 4.5.596 and still be rooted? What’s the difference between
    those two versions?

  • Mhanda45

    I have heard great things about rooting. I'm excited about extending my battery life and speed increase which is why I want to root. However I'm worried about some of my programs like NFL Mobile. I watch football on it every Sunday. I hear people have to pay $10 a month to watch live football now but since I'm grandfathers claused in I dont. I do not want to upgrade if I lose such grandfathers clauses. I think Shazaam is another program that people have to pay for now. Any suggestions?

  • Would you look at that, the OG Droid still is on top. Keep up the coverage of our ol Droid for us ey Kellex?

  • DXn00b

    I wasn't rooted this morning… but with the help of DL members I am now!!

    I have no idea why I waited this long to remove CITY ID and AMAZON MP3 and BLOCKBUSTER and VZ NAVIGATOR (i mean c'mon verizon why would i ever pay you for something that google already wanted me to have for free?)

    And thats only the start of it. I can't wait to start dealing with custom roms and using all of this raw android power!

  • Hutj22

    Wish I would run into someone with a rooted Droid so I can see it`s performance.

  • Dpry3580

    My X is stock. I would like to OC it, but haven't heard of a way yet. That might be a good enough reason for me. Then I'd probably mess around with some other stuff, just because that’s what I do with everything else. For now, the X with 2.2 is amazing as-is. PDANet is by far my favorite app. No internet bill home. I plug my Win7 64bit to my X, and it's faster than my Comcast connection was. As for Droids being PC’s, that’s obvious. The only difference is screen size. There comes a point when you’re carrying a tablet instead of a phone. 4.3” is a perfect size IMO. The video it captures looks amazing on my 55” LED LCD from the media port through HDMI.

  • quiklives

    Interesting that the DI, D2 and DX all have more non-rooted votes than rooted, while the original Droid and aggregate other phones show more rooted than not.

  • thelolotov

    Wow, we rooted D2 owners are really in the minority, huh.

  • Manic

    Rooted Droid X Official Froyo running FlyX and Revolution themed.. Battery life is AWSOME and supper fast..

  • Lexiedgerocks

    I want to root, but I'm afraid to brick my phone and the fact that my warranty will be voided. I remember my last phone I broke after the warranty was done and I had to buy me a whole new phone (my D1 which was worth it). So is it really worth it and can I actually understand how to do it? I mean the biggest thing I have ever done to my phone was download the Swype apk and I figured that out myself. Ideas?

    • mathees

      you wont realize how worth it it is until you do it. my phone is faster, looks better, runs smoother. it turned into a hobby for me. as for how to do it, clink the “rooting guide: Android 2.2 on motorola droid” on the side bar of every page on this website

  • brayden

    i would be rooted but my usb is messed up somehow so i cant use rsd lite

  • mo

    ive had a full upgrade waiting for me since the 17th, ud8 on my droid is so smooth though.

    all i want is the epic 4g on vzw…the merge was so close…ugh.

  • Icy-X

    Non Rooted Droid X 2.2

  • Brife


  • Kevind

    Just doesn't make sense for me to root my X yet. When easy custom ROMs become available then I'm game. Nothing about the X bothers me yet except Blur and rooting won't help with that.

    • Thornfullessrose

      easy custom roms? whats that? install a de-blurred rom! i know if they have one for droid 2, they definitly have a de-blurred rom for the x. root will help with that

  • Rooted Droid FTW!

  • jahpickney

    OG Droid 4 life!

    • djembeman

      I think I'll keep this even beyond my next new every two. I'm keeping this until there is a killer 4G phone.

  • Davidcosmejr

    I found that my phone worked faster after I rooted.

  • baldypal

    When is someone going to develope an easy ROM application like easy root. A simple push of a button ROM changer. That would be sweet.

    • Thornfullessrose

      Rom Manager has already been created. who really needs it that easy???? its not hard at all! just click the rom you want, click download, and install!

      • baldypal

        I'm sorry. You missed my point. It should be as easy as changing your wallpaper. No installs. That's not convinient enough to be called “easy”.

        • Kraymanbauer

          The slight amount of work that it takes is the part your not understanding. What fun would it be to just hit 1 button and have it done? what would you learn? anything enjoyable comes from work. Thats the fun i see in rooting anyway. Its not just the after affects, its the process!

        • jwb

          So you want to be able to switch ROMs without installing them? Oo kay..

          • Thornfullessrose


          • Thornfullessrose


  • I'll tell you a couple of polls I'd like to see on here. What is the average age of the Droid user on here and what is the average age of the developers on here.

  • Rooted Droid all the way, although once again my phone went stupid this morning. my phone kept restarting and the battery was dead so it couldnt charge nd it wouldnt stop restarting, i got into recovery and went to my safety ROM which is Buglessbeast v1.1 android 2.1 from sapphire v1.1 this has also happend to me while i had simply stunning on another droid. It sucks and for that reason i wanna unroot but then i think about all of the awesome features i have and im not ready to step down from that

    • JFKempf

      I went through this with Sapphire 1.0(and 1, and 1.1), and it seems to have something to do with not having quite enough juice to boot all the way up. When plugged into the mains, I couldn't get it to just charge without trying to turn on. Solutions I found: remove uSD card (worked once or twice), or charge via USB. Seems with the batt is that close to fully drained, charging via USB allows it to 'build up' to a certain point before it powers on the phone. It takes a while, but it did work for me.

    • The350zWolf

      Since you have tried BB already, let me recommend the latest BBV0.5 running on FRG22D. You'll love it!

      • mathees

        i recommend anything but BB. BB is slow as f***

  • Barry

    Boxers or briefs?

  • Buseck

    Rooted the original droid with easy root…loved it. Got the update, FRG22D, now my phone is unrooted. Does anyone have a guide to get my phone rooted again?

  • 11knives

    I was rooted on my dx before the ota update and I really miss teathering. I'm waiting on a new easy root/unroot for 2.2

  • antrison

    Many people seem to be very worried about rooting their phones for fear of bricking them. I was as well but have been rooted since February and have yet to hear of anyone on this site actually bricking their phones (except Kellex's April fools joke). Yeah, it's a risk, but no one seems to have any issues here.
    Anyone bricked?

  • Kraymanbauer

    Having no prior knwoledge before myself, youd be amazed how easy and fun it is. Not a huge chance of error if you read up, plan out the steps and take you. time. Picture having a phone thats custom tailored to you…. thats rooting!

  • Daballa

    Rooted OG Droid. Liquid Frozen Yogurt 1.6, WatermarkD 3.4, Slayer 1gh. kern.

  • Memphis550

    root all the way frees up phones i just don't know why they don't sell them like this

  • I'm rooted on Droid X but I think it was more fun being rooted on the original Droid

    • sylent101

      Yeah when I switched to my incredible from my old droid rooting kind of lost its flavor a little.

  • Kraymanbauer

    Rooted droid orig. And have not looked back since. Seeing an unrooted makes me laugh every time and makes me thankfull I did it 2 weeks after buying. Been rooted for 6 months and not gonna replace this phone till it croaks or. until i decide what phone to root next

    MIUI w/ chevy kernal
    running smoother than silk
    still abit buggy but sweet perks to this rom

  • Rooted D1 running Sapphire 1.1.1 with Chevy ULV 1.1Ghz kernel. Modified Blackbar theme with parts taken from rEVOlution Remix for Bugless Beast.


  • GB314

    Does easyroot or Androot work on the Droid 2? cause if not I dont want brick anything…

    • Jeffe65

      Avoid the “One-Click” methods, because that's what gets people in trouble; you won't understand what you just did. It's not that complicated. DroidForums.net has forums for everything you want to do, with any of the phones.

  • Grant

    Haven't rooted Droid1 yet because I don't wanna downgrade and FRG22D hasn't been rooted yet.

    • Jeffe65

      Hasn't been rooted?? Go to this link: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-labs/74028-root-droid-1-regardless-os-version.html and follow the directions. Read, and re-read so you understand what you're doing, and it's a 5-minute process. You can root ANY OS on the Droid 1, and flash a rooted version of FRG22D if you want. If you have questions, there are people there to help. Good luck!

      • Grant

        One other problem – I have a Mac. So, I was hoping that a FRG22D updates for easy root or some kind of lazy one-click root option that I don’t have to interface with a PC.

  • Jakewoodblues

    Non rooted EVO. I am sooo technically inept that I'd probably brick my phone.

    • The350zWolf


  • 1bad69z28

    The Original D1 Baby, Still “KICKING A%$ and TAKING NAMES LATER”. The Original DROID that started it all HA HA, Now if we can only get that Dual Core or 2GHZ phone w/ all of the hype to raise the bar and take out the EVO 4G then we just might have another hit on our hands.

  • pir800

    I'll root my X once there's an app that will do it for me and I don't have to download the SDK.

    • Thornfullessrose

      its really not hard to use adb

  • Plgsp4

    Had a to rooted D1. Upgraded to DX. Had it for 4 hours and rooted it. Who wouldn't want these abilities?

  • Ewhitak

    Original droid running bugless v0.5 and chevy 1ghz I think this is the fastest rom ever. the og is a must root

  • Cory

    Rooted droid, rooted eris, rooted DX, and soon a rooted ally.

  • Jmtownsend83

    Rooted Droid.Simply Stunning V4.8

    The best rom out there- fast, smooth, stable and lots of customization options.

    • Barry

      How can a ROM with source identical to the stock ROM be any faster or smoother?

      • The350zWolf

        The secret lies in tweaking the kernel, among other things. Google releases android as somewhat of a blank canvas and then developers, both freelance and employed by big companies develop around it. I’m sure that the developers at motorola and verizon are not as devoted to perfection as any of your favorite developers out there, not to mention in tune with the needs/requests of the community such as droid life

      • Go read and find out 🙂 The answers are there

    • NorCalGuy

      Exaclty (red theme)

  • RJM

    I am really surprised at how many phones are NOT rooted. Everyone hesitates before taking the leap, but once it's done it's like having a new phone every week (when Droid-Life posts the new themes, etc.)

    Droid X, Fly X, many themes (right now the black bar minimalist)

    • Anonymous

      I used to be rooted on the leaked DX 2.2 version. Then I went back to non-root. Why? Instability, no support from the manufacturer or carrier, and potential security concerns. To me the negatives out-weight the positives big time. I’ve got easy tether (wifi tether doesn’t interest me) so the need to be rooted is small to negligible.

      Yes the bloatware is annoying – but its not getting in the way of me doing anything I want to do.

  • Hogasswildmc

    I have a rooted Droid and an unrooted Droid X. I can only vote once.

  • Maansova

    I had the original droid and I was rooted, then I upgrate 2 the droid 2 but I kinda wanna wait for easy way 2 root!!……plus this phone is fast already, but I will love to have a different themes. Hate brur I'm so happy with launche pro plus :).
    If any one knows a easy and safe way 2 root my droid 2 PLEASE LET ME KNOW!

  • they say number dont lie…. 😉

  • Marc Lee

    From what I understand, there not much you can really do with rooted Droid 2. There really is no point of rooting it.

    • jwb

      What exactly can’t be done? Overclocking? That’s far less important on a 1 GHz/512MB RAM phone, which already runs like butter. The Droid requires overclocking to run properly, whereas the Droid 2 does not.

      Rooting allows us to remove copious amounts of bloat, run WiFi tether, create and restore NANDroid backups, theme, install FM Radio, run Root Explorer, run SetCPU for enormous battery savings, run terminal, etc. Custom ROMs exist, but between Froyo and launchers like ADW, they just don’t add much functionality that isn’t already built into the D2.

    • Thornfullessrose

      yes there is! this is my comment from below: “i just had to root my droid 2! so many unnecessary apps i had to remove! and i wanted to be able to manage my processor speed, apply themes, take pics of my screen, and block ads from apps and the browser. if i couldnt do those then i wouldnt have a droid 2 and would have stayed with my droid 1.”

      so there are things u can do with a droid 2. just because you cant overclock doesnt meant theres no point in rooting it. theres always benefit from rooting with any phone.

    • antintyty

      what planet are you from?? Root that bad boy and welcome to the dark side!!

    • jiggaman508

      Wifi tether is def big for me, and I just deodexed and installed a black not bar (white one was killing me) my d2 is running faster than ever, plus the developer community is starting to pump out roms for this beast to finally unleash its true power, plus being rooted you can get rid of most of the horrible bloatware verizon makes you have, if youre nervous to do it read the link below its as close to one step as you can get and it has an easy way to unroot

  • Alex

    I was rooted Droid X on 2.1 with Easy Root but 2.2 killed that and im too afraid to root another way. im hoping for an easy root fix that will get me back.

  • Matt M Haggerty

    So is it fair to say rooting DX 2.2 will improve battery life, removing all the bloat ware and unnecessarily running apps? I'm also scared to make the jump…

  • I did like the rooted Droid X, but I was an early adapter to the official 2.2, and bricked my phone because of it. I finally got up the balls to contact Verizon and they sent me a new phone no questions asked, but I'm afraid that if I root my phone again, I may not be so lucky next time. I prefer root because of the freedom, but starting to question if it's worth it.

  • Augustodelvalle

    Rooted droid with bugless beast v5 revolution them chevy kernell, pretty fast

  • Rain_king46

    Droid X 2.2 rooted, bootstrapped, and Build.prop applied.

  • RanballX

    Just Root it already. You won't go back.

  • I love being rooted and being able to play with different roms and themes. I really think my Droid X runs snappier after being rooted too.

  • FortitudineVincimus

    rooted Droid

    once you root, you'll wonder why you waited so long to do so and start to think of your next phone in terms of it's rootability

    • NuclearFluxx

      Only reason I would root my DROID is for wifi tether, but to be honest direct connect tether is much faster and with apps like easy tether this is all I need. What else can you do with root that is so special?

      • The350zWolf

        FREEDOM and do whatever I choose to do with MY hardware

      • Anonymous

        Turn it into a Droid 2 without the bloatware. (1ghz)

    • Jmtownsend83


      • Jeffe65

        Um…Well, for starters you can install apps to the SD card by default instead of by permission, you can tweak the clock speed of the CPU without overheating or battery drain for better performance, clear caches and do other clean-ups in batches instead of one-by-one…need I go on???

        • BlackHeart

          Not everyone needs to overclock their phone. It’s a smartphone, not a smartcomputer. I notice a lot of folk want to get the phone as close to a computer a possible. Problem is, it’s not going to happen. What performace increase do you need? Surfing the internet? Playing Angry Birds? Not really necessary.

          • For me I constantly wondered why root. I finally rooted so I could get Nandroid backups. (I love having a straight image backup.) Once I could do that it was a small step to playing with custom roms so I tried it since I could just reload an image backup. I now, as FortitudineVincimus says, think of my next phone in terms of rootability. There’s no one thing that screams “root!” but rather the whole experience. You truly have ultimate flexibility and you’ll discover your Android experience transforms into something much, much more. I never had a compelling motivation to root/rom my phone save for image backups but now I’m so happy I decided to play around. Now to get some great roms and themes for the Droid X…

          • Jeffe65

            Not a computer? A device that can read/edit MS Office documents and save them on a cloud server, scan barcodes for price matching, check prices for anything close to your location (gas, etc.), surf the Internet and purchase/browse from places like Amazon, etc., check banking/stock information, do conversions for measurements & currency, keep up-to-date pharmaceutical info. (Epicurious) for those of us that use that information, make reservations without having to call, Navigate while on the road, Geocache, replace my alarm clock, calendar/appointments, etc. Oh, and fit in my pocket and make phone calls. Many of them run over 1 Ghz without overclocking, which is faster than most PC’s were just a few years ago, and more processing power than the Lunar Lander from the Apollo Missions. I’d call that a computer. Rooting it just makes everything a LOT easier to manage, and customize it any way you want for how you use it; overclocking is just one of the ways you can do that.

          • The350zWolf

            Just to add to Jeffe65, before the ENIAC and around that time computers were people sitting at a desk crunching data. To be more precise, quote taken from wikipedia under the search “computer”

            “A computer does not need to be electric, nor even have a processor, nor RAM, nor even hard disk. The minimal definition of a computer is anything that transforms information in a purposeful way.” from wikipedia

          • Tom

            +1 to Jeffe65… And BlackHeart… I think you need to review what a computing device is… http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/computer… Hell… even http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/personal+computer would describe an Android phone. “a microcomputer designed for individual use, as by a person in an office or at home or school, for such applications as word processing, data management, financial analysis, or computer games.” Hold on… let me make sure that my Droid can do all of that….Word Processing? Yup got that with Word to Go…. Data management? Calander, Sheets to Go, Slideshow to Go, e-mail applications (corporate and personal), FTP manager, CardioTrainer for workout data management…. Yeah… I think Droid does all of that… Financial analysis? There is a whole section in the market for Finance…. I think Droid does that too… Computer games? I think you covered that one… You know with the Angry Birds reference… Not good enough? How about the Quake port or one of the several emulators? Yeah… Droid does….I am pretty sure you can consider smartphones pocket sized computers….I am fairly certain when they were building the first computers that took up entire rooms Post WW2, no one dreamed they could wield that power and more in their pocket. Just because you can’t play the new Valve games, or Civ 5 or any of those other games, doesn’t mean that what you have in your pocket is not a computer.

          • BlackHeart

            I understand where you’re coming from, even I myself like the feats of rooting (custom themes and tethering… No I’m not rooted -Droid X-). But those that DON’T root, aren’t really MISSING much. Honestly, and the polls are actually showing a lot of people are NOT rooted. (Excluding DROID) Now can you tell me why people WOULDN’T want to root other than the fear of bricking their phone (which is a common reason) and losing their warranty (another frequently seen reason)? I see a lot of people saying “oh cause of the bloatware” (which is easy to overlook in my opinion), “enhance the performance of your phone” (my phone is already fast enough and is doin quite well), “complete freedom” (if only I didn’t have to pay that bill every month but I do, but other then that there NEEDS to be some kind of limitiation on SOMETHING. Having SOME control IS and can sometimes BE better.) But all in all, being rooted isn’t necessarily that important.

          • BlackHeart

            ~Adding to the bricking statement~ You shouldn’t brick your phone in any case unless you can’t read directions…. Unfortunately there is that group out there that I’m sure are bricked and hate it. Next time pay attention and try again.

  • Will2Live

    We need a listing for people who own all the devices listed and whether they are rooted or not. That said I do and have owned them all and yes they are/were in fact all rooted.

  • Mrpicolas

    What about those of us with multiple phones

    • FortitudineVincimus

      show off

  • Will be rooting my Droid X 2.2 today, hopefully. I purchased MyBackup Pro to backup everything so if there's the off chance that I brick my phone while rooting it, everything will be safe. But then again, I usually follow instructions to a T so there should be no issues.

    Looking forward to it!

    • Thornfullessrose

      if you dont already know… you might wanna do a nandroid back with rom manager too.

  • jwb

    Not surprised to see a higher percentage of DROID users rooted than not, while a lower percentage of the 1gHz/512mb RAM phones are rooted than not.

  • Timoh

    If you want root but you're worried about that just pull the battery in the middle of flashing, or just run the 2.1 SBF on it and turn it into a brick.

  • Thornfullessrose

    i just had to root my droid 2! so many unnecessary apps i had to remove! and i wanted to be able to manage my processor speed, apply themes, take pics of my screen, and block ads from apps and the browser. if i couldnt do those then i wouldnt have a droid 2 and would have stayed with my droid 1.

  • Murphy

    Raise the root. Droid.

  • zOMG! Rooted OG Droid with Sapphire 1.1.1 and Alien theme rocking a sholes 1ghz kernel. Ooo lala! 🙂

    • Anonymous

      Haha, thanks man…!! 😉

    • Marcogiudice79

      Were did u get a sholes kernel?

    • Nick

      +1 Sapphire 1.1.1….I love this ROM running Incognito theme and 1ghz LV kernel

  • Nick

    Non rooted DroidX here, paid cash for the phone off ebay so no warranty if I screw it up.

    • Rain_king46

      Even if you had a warranty, it would be void if you had rooted it. So that is kind of an invalid argument. haha

    • Oh come on 😛 You can't screw it up lol You got the freakin' A-Team working here! haha

      • Alonsop21

        Have a Dx running 2.2, I tried rooting with instructions on here for the official ota had no luck, it said congratulations your rooted but I wasn’t. Might you be able to help me?

  • krazyman

    rooted droid running miui Rom featured on DL.

    • Kraymanbauer

      you too huh? i am loving how snappy it is… wicked sweet having all those settings in the notification bar too…. any issues with it yet for you? getting a fc when i try and look at mem card through the main menu but gotta a widget that shows me avail space.

    • Kraymanbauer

      you too huh? i am loving how snappy it is… wicked sweet having all those settings in the notification bar too…. any issues with it yet for you? getting a fc when i try and look at mem card through the main menu but gotta a widget that shows me avail space.

  • MikeCRock

    Waiting for an easy/safe “un-root” of DX-2.2
    Hate to say it, but I'm scared of having to send it back for service…
    Once that happens… I'll be “raising the root”

    • Timoh

      If you want root but you're worried about that just pull the battery in the middle of flashing, or just run the 2.1 SBF on it and turn it into a brick.

      • Hehe…as I understand it, the only thing Verizon's insurance doesn't cover is water damage. You can always report your phone, err, “stolen” and get another one.

        • Guest

          You need a police report if you tell their insurance that the phone was “stolen”. That is a huge hassle, and might aggrivate your local police department.

  • Non-rooted HTC Desire. (I read Droid-Life to keep up with the Android news even though I don't have a Droid phone…)

    I actually quite like HTC Sense for the most part, and don't feel a great need to root my phone, not least because it will kill the warranty I have with it. When I get my next phone however…. 😉 I'm also a developer, so having a “stock” device can be quite important.

  • Kung Fu Drafter

    I am very curious about rooting my DX. But I hate to admit that I am scared I will brick the damn thing.


  • skltr21

    rooted and running UD 8 with nexdeep theme. incredibly stable and incredibly fast. best ROM/theme i've ran so far.

  • Bxrider117

    The process to root your Droid is so easy that at the very least everyone should root their phone.

  • lakerzz

    Recently rooted DX. Working out of town for a week without a computer. So no custom roms as of yet…*SAD FACE*

    • Thornfullessrose

      why dont you use rom manager? there should be roms on there if im not mistaken.

      • Rain_king46

        +1 for ROM manager. Worth it even just for Build.prop

      • Lakerzz

        I believe I have to deodex/odex my X first to install custom roms…

  • Rooted Droid with Cyanogen Mod 6 and P3 1ghz kernel set at 1ghz. Screaming fast and stable. 😉

  • tbaybe

    rooted OG droid baby!

  • I had my Droid stock for a couple months, then got impatient when Motorola/Verizon took forever to release 2.1. Haven't looked back since the procedure.

  • Rooted DroidX 2.2

  • OscarBurbujas


  • Michael_NM

    Not rooted, but my Droid is about to get a Tim-o-Tato special root! 🙂

    • tbaybe


    • +1 Only for you man! 😛

  • durangojim

    only thing i need root for is free wireless tether, and with the dinc i don't even need that.

    • Romma1

      You mean Dinc non-root users have free wi-fi tethering?

      • Anonymous

        yes, search androidforums.com or I can email you.

      • Thornfullessrose

        hes probably gonna pay for 3g mobile hotspot.

        • EC8CH

          Paying for tether….. lame.

          • Anonymous

            nope, do a search on androidforums.com. There’s a way to change the settings on the phone itself to allow wireless tether through the hotspot app without having to pay for it. As long as you aren’t using too much data, vzw doesn’t care. I haven’t been charged at all and neither has anyone else. Just don’t abuse it and you can thank me later.

          • Romma1

            I did it. I now have 3g Hotspot. 🙂 I will not abuse it, and will not use it often.

  • Rooted Dinc running Ruby 1.1.1. I seriously don’t know how I ever used this thing before rooting. Better battery life, more customization, better performance, everything.

  • I”m nervous about rooting my DX not knowing how to do it, or what I will gain. I use my DX for basically business mail through the native app, gmail, and a couple other things.. Can anyone tell me if those apps will still work “perfectly” as they do now? What else would I gain from rooting? thank you in advance for your replies

  • JTE

    Personally, I’m waiting to root my DX until there’s a one-touch root/unroot method. I’m more afraid that my computer will bug out on me in the middle of the process than anything else.