It is starting to feel like Motorola and Verizon are on the verge of announcing the DROID TURBO at any moment. After last week’s leak of the back panel, a stop off at the FCC, and sources of ours becoming increasingly familiar with the device, we now have a benchmark through GFXBench that lists out a set of specs that have regularly been associated with the next DROID. In short, it sounds like a beast.
According to a GFXBench listing, we are looking at a phone with a 5.2-inch QHD (2560×1440) display, 2.65GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 processor, Adreno 420 GPU, 3GB RAM, 20~MP rear camera, 2MP front camera, and Android 4.4.4. The device will also likely carry 32GB of storage out of the box, though the device benchmarked here had around 21GB available.
Thanks to info that we found in the phone’s FCC listing, it should also sport a DROID MAXX-like battery, support Motorola’s Turbo Charger, and maybe even wireless charging.
The phone will be slightly bigger than the new Moto X, partly because of its bigger battery, but also because it will have capacitive navigation buttons.
If you love the look of KEVLAR patterns on the back of a phone, this might be the phone to consider as we close in on the end of 2014.




Ok Guys and Gals,
Help me out here. I was fixing to upgrade from my Ultra to the Moto X 2nd and heard the Turbo was coming out soon ( although no one knows when. Maybe Oct?). So i have 2 questions #1 What is the difference in performance (not so much processor as hands free & speaker vol ) and appearance between the Ultra and the Moto X 2nd? I’m all about the hands free functions #2 Whats everyone best guess as to when the TURBO will be released?
On a side note i switched from the Ultra to the Galaxy S5 for picture and vid purposes (Higher quality and pause while recording). I knew that i would be losing a few features swapping from Motorola to Samsung but NONE of the Verizon reps at a Corp store could tell me what they would be. So i asked specifically if the hands free features would still be there and they said they “didn’t even know the Ultra could even do that!” Needless to say i was stunned that they didn’t even know their own product. So once home and 6 trips back to the store later trying to get features to work that weren’t there i returned it for my Ultra. It had a beautiful screen which i do miss so i’m hoping the Moto X 2nd and the Turbo have nicer screens. WHAT SHOULD I DO?!?
20 MP…I’m sold wait…Moto. I’ll pass.
If it has 64gb or more my mind will be blown
This is the droid you’ve been looking for.
Well dayum! Sounds good to me. Just don’t like those capacitive buttons.
Between this and the new moto x decisions decisions I want the moto x but the extra gig of ram and the extra battery life makes me really want this phone hmmm.
Looking absolutely BEASTLY. Another dope Droid phone :D. So glad they didnt choose to go with terrible onscreen buttons, and kept those to the Moto X. Hopefully this will have either a 64gb version, or a micro sd and come with atleast a 4000mAh batterry for that screen.
I’m hoping those photos aren’t real though, I was hoping for Motorola to go with metal for the Droid this year, that would be so sexy.
If it has a microSD card, a 3500+ mah battery, and a good camera, I’m sold.
20MP camera? That could be really nice assuming it is decently quick and has good optics. Certainly seems better than the new X. Would like to see it compared to the Z3 (when available) in addition to the G3 and S5…. this is getting to be a lot of acronyms.
Is there any chance of the Shamu hitting Verizon? Too many choices Motorola ffs.
I know…sooooooo many choices. There’s the X, the (rumored) Turbo and the (rumored) Nexus…and….and…and…there’s gotta be more if you’re complaining about too many choices…
A big fan of my current Maxx – including all the Moto software apps, with confirmation of the bigger battery, I’m in. I’ll also pick up a Moto 360 to pair with it as well (assuming the new update fixed battery life there too)… Wrap it all up and it’s happy birthday, holidays, and new year to me 🙂
Anybody know what this does on AnTuTu? or Quadrant
Nope, and nobody with half a brain cares.
That was un-necessary. Don’t do that OK.
No, its not ok. Ok. It was very necessary. Benchmarks are stupid and people who care about them deserve to be insulted.
LMAO… 🙂 I know benchmarks are stupid and don’t have any bearing on the phones ability to perform daily routines. I was just curious…. Man…. some peoples kids.
🙂 I know this is stupid and doesn’t mean anything but I’m gonna ask anyway LMAO…yeah, right, whatever.
LOL. dammmmmmmm. 🙂
If it doesn’t bend I don’t want it…
If it was water resistant, sounds like it would be a nearly perfect phone. Best or nearly the best in every possible spec/feature on the market. Amazing!
No physical keyboard? Wtfffffff
looks sooo good. But I can say for me….no sd-card expansion is a deal breaker.
Ok I’m sure…..
That is certainly the droid I’m looking for.
Dear Verizon, my money is ready when you release it next week. 😉
Why capacitive buttons!!!!! Pie controls are awesome. The phone is smaller and you don’t see on screen buttons ever.
Regardless of specs, Ive never been a fan of Verizons line of “droid” devices other than the OG Droid. The Droid MAXX has a terrible hardware design in my opinion. Maybe I can look past its ugliness for a great battery, but if the camera sucks and verizon loads a ton of bloatware (which they will), then ill pass.
“it will have capacitive navigation buttons.” Awe, really? I don’t care for those.
Capacitive navigation buttons? Why take a step backwards in design? This just became an absolute pass for me.
capacitive nav buttons? really? wtf. suddenly I care way less about this phone.
Agreed, why now would Motorola get away from using the onscreen keys? Makes zero sense!! Bad move Moto! Capacitive buttons are always to close to the edge of the phone and constantly getting pressed accidentally and causing problems. Rotate to view video, bam, accidentally press back button and lose the video! Ugg.
Only time this year that I regret leaving Verizon. Heh
Shut up and take my money.
Throw in VZ Navigator and it’s a deal. Haha
assuming no sd card slot?….. :/
These reported specs are all B/S. You people realize that don’t you?
Googlerola can’t afford to have this phone syphon off moto X sales and the new nexus, if it is in fact going to be made by googkerola. If these sites were real, they aren’t, they are for the Nexus not the Maxx replacement.
The max replacement will be a Verizon only moto x clone with (hopefully improved) capacitive buttons more Bloat and a larger battery, just like last year, That’s it. Translation a rounding error, sales figures dud.
well it is a verizon exclusive compared to the moto x and the nexus line. and the verizon moto x has reportedly already sold out….
droid turbo will be higher priced than moto x on verizon probably around ~249% atleast , last years maxx was 299$ on contract. so you are talking about $(( phone vs $249-$299 phone, so it won’t eat up in to moto x sales that much
$(( = $99*
I may be interested. Either iPhone 6+, Note 4, or this. The concerning fact is what is going to happen to Moto once Lenovo takes over.
I wonder how much it’ll be?
When will people realize, more pixels = crappy cameras. If you have a full sized DSLR type sensor, you won’t notice it. But on a sensor the size of a fingernail shaving, more megapixels = smaller pixels, this less light gets in and that means more noise through boosted ISO. Is that simple and basic physics. This camera like every android camera before it, will suck. Sure the photos will look OK on the screen, they always do. But on a full sized monitor, they will look like crap. EVERY phone camera does, even the heralded iPhone.
As to those God awful Capacitive Buttons, the Droid maxx’s archilles heel, I hope this rumor blog is wrong, as they usually ALWAYS are.
As much as I hate the on screen ones, you loose 1/2″ of screen space. The one on the Maxx were the worst I’ve ever encountered. Constantly not registering taps or opening Google now when tapping the back arrow! They just suck.
But since the. hyped Google “Immersive Mode” has been basically a “No Show the past year plus. Were stuck with Bad choice A vs Bad choice B.
There needs to be a better alternative for the next models, as this one, if it’s real was designed and finished many many months ago.
So what about a new Droid Mini or any other decent small phones on Verizon please?!?! Z3 Compact ;-)?
Hope the Droid Turbo Maxx is bigger. Needs to be 5.5″ at least to compete
God no. This is too big already. Perfect phone size is 4.9-5″ with tiny small bezels, <69mm width. See Huawei Ascend P7.
Definitely buying this. Who wants to buy my DROID Maxx?
I liked everything I heard until you said capacitive navigation buttons. All was on the front end of leading tech than we jumped back to 2010. It’s like there is a rule that you can’t make a device will ALL leading design and tech that have to have something in there that doesn’t make sense.
Yeah. But last year’s was capacitive as well, so shouldn’t be a surprise.
Wait….capacitive navigation buttons? Really?
yep. They look good too!
Why should I get this over a Note 4? And I’m not trying to be a wisecrack? I have a feeling that it’s going to cost the same as a Note 4 minus removable battery and SD card support.
Motorola smooth performing near stock Android with added useful features vs Samsung Touchwiz bloat. Awful Samsung physical home button/backwards buttons. You know, all the usual Samsung garbage.
and probably an early update to Android L.
For
some reason I thought Droids had skin jobs but Moto X does not. Or maybe that was the active features while
the screen is off. If they can manage to do the same vanilla Android from the X to this device now I’m interested. The only thing that stopped me from getting the 2014 Moto X was the battery life. I played with that phone yesterday and it’s faster than the Note 4 I played with at best buy.
last year droids are stock too with no skins, plus moto apps
Reasons to go with Moto: Better build, better radios, faster/guaranteed updates from Moto, less bloat, fewer gimmicks, probably better battery life and performance.
Reasons to go with Samsung: Not going anywhere or out of business anytime soon, oodles of 3rd party accessories, removable battery and expandable storage, better camera and screen. USB OTG support
if it follows in the line of other Moto Droids, You’ll probably be able to chuck this thing out of a moving car, watch it bounce a couple times, and still pick it and use it with only a few scratches. My personal experience with Samsung is their stuff can’t survive a drop of a kitchen table,
Agreed. I’ve never usually been bad about hurting my phones, but my Droid Maxx has fallen on cement three different times and only has a few scuffs on the back and bezel to show for it. One of them happened while I was out jogging and had a little drawsting backpack on that turned out to have a rip in the bottom. I was running downhill and it slipped out and bounced and skidded for about 10 feet. I couldn’t imagine an iPhone or Galaxy surviving that.
Seems like a beast, but I like the X better aesthetically (from the leaks at least). Been reading about battery life on the Moto X G+ Community and it actually seems pretty good! Interested to see that 20mp camera though for sure.
Take my money, take it! J/k – gotta have the money first in order for it to be taken! Sounds like an almost perfect phone for me.
If this thing is announced before my Moto X even ships… my rage will be insatiable.
Why? We knew this was coming. You decided to go with a [likely much] cheaper phone instead. Nothing wrong with that.
If I’m not mistaken, leaks of this phone started before the Moto X was even announced, let alone released. The Moto X is a nice device, so why be angry about buying one?
hmm…move over Moto X!
ARMv7? Oh, sure, I guess that’s okay…
As long As the camera is not traditional Motorola and at least s5 or G3 quality (not megapixels people) then this phone would be a avg users dream. Geeks not so much since there is no SD card
I’m pretty sure I’d qualify as a Geek, and I’m actually quite fine without an SD card. I realize Cloud Storage isn’t for everyone, but it works well for me with an unlimited data plan.
I am a geek too and I have never been upset with noSD card as long as I can get 32GB. Since kit Kat 4.4 took away writing to the SD card slot, makes no difference to me having or not having one. But dat camera doe…
Yeah, I’d prefer a decent camera, though in all fairness, in the right light, even my Galaxy Nexus can take an OK picture. I don’t rely on it when I know I am going to be snapping pictures, but it’s good enough for an OK snap shot.
Any chance this phone is a variant of a non Droid phone that will be available on other carriers?
If the Moto Nexus rumors prove true, could be.
You’re referring to the possible more-than-one nexus release, right?
Well there’s that too. But this could be the basic specs for a Nexus but for the display size.
Do we have any idea if this phone will have the X8 system coupled with the 805, or not because the new Moto X is only running an 801?
If it’s water resistant then I’m in regardless of the kevlar back.
Yeah seriously. Ever since the S5 got the IP67 it’s hard to even think of getting a phone without it. The phone has a lot of flaws but that one feature is keeping me from truly being excited for this Turbo
Why couldn’t they do this for the X; if the next Nexus is anything like these specs, oh man…
Cost, I’m sure. This thing will probably be $300 on contract.
Capacitive buttons? Yuck. Everything else about this phone sounds great, however.
Well, if you don’t like capacitive you have a choice of… ALMOST EVERY OTHER PHONE!
Which is why I use a Nexus 5. : )
The problem is we want Moto X with a real battery…the Droid HD RAZR MAXX had on-screen buttons…
S5, HTC M8 don’t have on-screen buttons either.
M8 does lawl
I actually think capacitive buttons are superior to onscreen and physical.
I had a Galaxy S2 years back you could turn off the capacitive lights made it look like there were no buttons at all only I knew how to use them. I now have a Nexus 5 I like softkeys but Capacitive give you more screen and are faster and more responsive than physical keys and software keys. I say this from experience as I have owned many phones from all manufactures over the last 4 years.
I have pie controls on my N5, courtesy of Gravity Box, so I’ve always got the full screen available to me.
I’ve used pie controls they are nice but are actually slightly slower than softkeys and icons sit way to close to the bottom edge unless you use gravity box or a launcher to customize and move them up more.
A variant of the Nexus 6? I can only hope.
I can haz plz? 🙁
I don’t care if it’s ugly, you’re beautiful to me Turbo!
The specs sound great, but that design looks terrible.
Hoping they announce this over the next week. Picked up a Moto X (2014) on Verizon over the weekend and really do enjoy the build materials, near OEM software, display, and front speaker. Pretty disappointed in the camera though (coming from iPhone 5S) but it is noticeably better than last year’s model. Only had the phone for a day so I can’t really comment on the battery life.
I’m really thinking the Turbo is based off of the rumored Motorola Nexus, just a tad smaller. This would explain the specs being so different from the new Moto X.
This phone is more than likely the closest we will get to a Nexus on Verizon this year. (Along with the Moto X of course) Especially with there being no developer edition of the X.
Edit: And if Motorola continues their update pace with their phones from last year, the Turbo will see lightning fast updates.
I can only assume at this point that consumers have expressed an interest in dedicated capacitive buttons on phones. Otherwise it makes not sense to include the extra cost and space to include them.
Im a fan of the kevlar Droids. But Moto cameras suck. And moto updates arebslow on verizon. Plus theres no Android device out that CLEARLY beats a old S3 in performance. Split second not worth the $. Its all about software now.
I used an S3 a few weeks ago to play Ingress with a friend… you’re kidding right? That phone is awful.
The Verizon Droid’s and Moto X received it before anyone else. The unlocked Moto X received the 4.4.4 update last.
Moto updates are not slow on Verizon. This isn’t 2010 anymore.
won’t know the camera until it’s available. I know the track record is iffy, but you never know.
But, motorola get updates very quickly these days. And speed, well, you usually can’t sense your phone is hanging until you use a new one that doesn’t. There’s nothing wrong with the S3, but this phone will knock its socks off.
“theres no Android device out that CLEARLY beats a old S3 in performance”
Should have been what the new x was. Why would moto make a better phone for a single carrier than it does for everyone else? This is pretty much why I have not and won’t be buying any moto crap!
This looks much more carbon fiber than kevlar or carbon kevlar of days gone by to me.
I’m interested to see if the 13MP camera in the X is worse than the supposed 20MP in this, I know MP isn’t everything as far as actual quality goes, but I’d like to see a Moto phone, with an X like experience for software, and a camera that keeps up with other flagships.
Don’t screw this up by not having an SD slot, Moto (if it’s not going to have at least 64GB internal). And wireless charging. And at least a 4Ah battery.
Aww who am I kidding, it’s Motorola, I already know they’re going to screw it up.
Assuming that ends up being the case, 2014 is all down to Sony on the 9th to bring the Z3 and/or Z3C to Verizon.
Moto screwed it up by what looms like giving a single carrier a phone with better specs and looks than their “flagship” that they put out for everyone.
Wow.. And running almost stock Android. Moto you hit the nail on the head.
Dear Motorola,
This sounds amazing.
Don’t screw up the battery!! Make it AT LEAST 2800mah!
Sincerely,
Everyone
The battery has been reported already as 3300mah.
Ugh, that sucks.
Really? This will indeed be an amazing phone.
But QHD is overkill, especially on 5.2″ screen. It could have had nearly MAXX level battery life with 1080p.
I agree because I could not tell the difference between my Note 3 and Note 4 other than the whiter whites and overall brightness. But if you’re into virtual reality you need even higher screen resolution. I plan on getting Gear VR with the Note 4.
Where did you see a Note 4?
Best buy has the note 4’s out to play with. Just was at the store playing with it. Pretty nice! Still might wait for this phone though
Yup, my local store put out 3 white ones to play with on Friday. I played with one for about 15 mins last night and I am slightly impressed. TW is flattened and improved but it’s still laggy ol’ TW. Camera app looks to be significantly improved. Build and feel in hand seems even better than I expected. I like the on-screen feeling from “writing” with the S-Pen (and underscores how much I’d love to have an 8″ Note Pro tablet S with the same or better specs as the Note 4!)
Samsung stores within Bestbuy. All should have the Note 4 on display, some have the Note Edge and only one in my area has the Gear VR. I still haven’t played with the VR and it’s the primary reason for upgrading from my Note 3.
I tossed Nova and Muzei on the display Note 4 and set the phone up like my Note 3 and side by side they were similar, but the Note 4 was definitely superior.
My thoughts on both:
I played with both the Note 4 and Edge yesterday.
The screens on both are stunning. Everything looks a step sharper than the Note 3. The colors still pop, but everything looks more natural. Whites are noticeably whiter. Both screens are brighter too.
The metal rim is a nice touch and from a quality standpoint both devices were nicer than the Note 3. Still, they’re not on the level of the iPhone/HTC devices and are probably closer in quality to the G3/Moto X (2014).
I was super excited for the Edge, but after using one I’m not sure what I think. The bent edge is really small and kind of awkward to use on its own. For most applications that section doesn’t do anything. When I was using Chrome for instance it just goes black and says My Note Edge. I installed Nova to see what it did with a launcher and the result was the same. You can swipe the strip and something will come up, but there didn’t seem to be a full-screen mode where normal content was stretched to that area automatically. Also when using some apps the content from the strip area seemed to overlap slightly over the main screen area.
I couldn’t get any great pics (and some are blurry) but here they are:
Apple might have better quality but their design team needs to be fired. Being super thin is not good (bendgate and camera sticking out like a sore thumb) , the Fisher price lines on the back along with huge bezels. Quality good but design sucks.
The Note 4 reminds me of the iPhone 5, back when Apple had taste.
Agreed. I’d rather see them have a 5″ version with 1080P and same battery, an 801 and aggressively priced. THEN, have a 6″ QHD phablet with an 805.
True, almost nothing currently available even supports QHD, but by the time a contract on this phone is up, there should be adequate use for it. I just hope CPU doesn’t eat up battery by constantly upscaling everything to fit the resolution.
Agreed , but the selling point is quick charge 2.0 for the turbo… The faster charge times would make up for that. I’m just wondering how hard this tech will be on the batteries…
I missed that somehow, thanks! Man, it looks like Moto is about to hit a homerun.
I think I saw it on here a few weeks ago but I don’t remember which story. I can’t wait to get this thing.
At least? The last MAXX had what, a 3300 or 3500mAh battery?
Yep. I was assuming there would be a normal/maxx variant. These specs + a 3500+mah battery would be incredible.
3500mah, I forgot it was bumped up to 3500.
I’m hoping for a 4000mAh to go with that overkill of a display. I’d prefer 1080p since nobody could tell the difference on a 5.2″ screen. I guess they were sick of taking so much flack for the 720p display on the Droid Maxx last year which was really not bad at all but 1080p was what people were doing. I’m glad to see they at least gave it a CPU and GPU that should be able to handle that many pixels. 3GB of RAM was a nice touch as well.
At least 2800??? It had better be at least 3500!
So beastly….if Only I was still on Verizon…..but I’m not!
what an ugly phone. shame beacuse the specs are actually pretty good. the fact that its so ugly and locked to the worst nazi carrier in America is a big turn-off. Moto X 2014 looks so much better than this.
I’m withholding judgment until I see the final product, but this is my fear as well based on the back panel…
yeah it pretty much looks like the droids from the last couple of years based on the leaked images
I’ll slap a thin cover on it and forgive the ugly back
I actually don’t mind that look (and it’s a great feel) – it’s the weird looking shape of the back for me.
‘Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—that is all Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.’
John Keats
The best Motorola phone is RAZR. Motorola still has not been able to get a hit device after that.
Um, ever hear of the Motorola Droid?
Sure! Thanks for reminding!
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD Can we just release this thing already?!? My poor Razr Maxx HD has been acting squirrelly ever since the 4.4.2 update and I’ve been trying to limp along until this year’s Maxx is finally let out of the gate. Seriously, Verizon, if you’re listening, just let it out! You can have all my money!
Still using my Droid Razr Maxx which I have had since 3rd day it was out. Mostly still working, but had to CyanogenMod it after multiple factory resets still did not keep the VZW/Motorola installed OS from being ‘squirrelly’.
Yeah, it’s been really weird. Some things are a definite improvement since the update, most notably everything running a lot smoother since enabling ART, and some days are fine. Other days, like today, it’s been off the charger for 90 minutes and is feeling really hot and the battery is all the way down to 70% already. For no apparent reason. Kinda defeats the purpose of having a Maxx to begin with. :/
Media scanner bug or corrupt image/file on SD card? My Samsungs get like this occasionally and that’s usually the culprit.
Life long motorola fan here! This is the phone I’ve been waiting for all year. Great specs, beast of a battery. Love the long running tradition of the kevlar back! I always get a clear back case so you can see it. Turbo charging, I’m in! Wireless charging like my Maxx… Motorola killed it with this one! Bring on vanilla 4.4.4!
Any word if any of the previously mentioned contract renewal methods for the Verizon Unlimited Data Plan will work after October 1st? I REALLY want to wait for this phone, but I might be forced to buy a new something through Best Buy tonight to get the contract renewal before October 1st to keep the unlimited plan and avoid any potential throttling.
To my knowledge, the Amazon and BB methods still work last I checked (this morning), and I’d hate to have to purchase a device which I’m not a fan of (G3,S5, M8, etc…) in order to get back onto contract with my unlimited.
I’ve been with Verizon Wireless since the Bell Atlantic days, and was sporting a Droid Razr since it was first released via pre-order. I picked up used Razr HD Maxx via Swappa 4 months ago due to OG Razr’s battery finally tapping out.
I’ve been up for renewal since 01, 2013 and have been waiting for another Moto offering that’s worth my “$”.
Hopefully this “Turbo” does what it’s supposed to (with expandable memory like the G3 and S5 which I’m not a fan of either), and just doesn’t “spool” with added boost from Verizon’s network.
Why capacitive navigation buttons? Such a waste. Needs a 64 GB option or SD card
It allows you to utilize the full 5.2″ display at all times at least.
Rather on screen keys. Apps can go into full screen mode. No need for the extra added height from capacitive buttons.
Who else likes pie? I’d rather have capacitive over any onscreen. But pie controls are the happy medium
Most apps don’t, it’s usually just video and photo apps that do, and when they do you have to tap the screen first to activate them, so it’s twice the work to go back or home.
Is that where we’ve come to? Where tapping the screen twice rather then once is seen as extra “work”
I’m simply pointing it out. My main point is that generally only video/photo apps remove the on screen buttons.
And many games
Ah, good point, I don’t play games on my phone so I forgot about those. Even still though, the majority of the time for me at least is using apps which keep the on screen buttons. I’m not against them, I’m just saying there are some pros to having capacitive buttons.
Yes, you can have a larger device with capacitive buttons, which is awesome. And they light up when you touch them, so that’s really neat. NO.
The little area that the onscreen buttons take up is minimal and what other instances do you really need them gone besides looking at photos/videos or playing games? Not that they can’t be implemented elsewhere, but I do not see it being a problem within other apps.
There is really no valid argument FOR capacitive buttons unless you like a larger device.
As you said, the biggest argument for capacitive buttons is that you get more screen real estate the entire time you have your phone.
A big argument against capacitive, in my opinion, is customization. While I’ve generally had no problem finding a way to change the function of a capacitive button, you can’t change the icon. On every phone I’ve had with on screen buttons I’ve moved and/or changed them into other buttons. My favorite setup is “recents-home-back” with holding recents bringing up the menu, home bringing up Now and back killing the foreground app. I may be able to soft-mod that function into a phone with capacitive buttons but can’t change the look to reflect it.
Most devices with Buttons on the bottom are no larger then devices with onscreen buttons. So that is not a valid argument. Look at the 3 on the left, and they are not really any smaller then the S5. The M8 and G3 are both larger, and the usable screen size is much smaller. Capacitive Buttons FTW! I’d like to see your proof that on screen buttons make the phone smaller.
Capacitive buttons are good and all but I found with my S4 that when I would turn the phone to look at a video I constantly hit the back button and lost that video to watch. I found that rather aggravating and it happened all the time. Yes you get more screen but the capacitive buttons are now closer to the edges of the phone where you need to hold it. I now have a G3 and no longer hit any buttons when moving the phone between portrait and landscape modes. Just my 2 cents.
I don’t have any issues with video’s closing on me. In the words of Steve Jobs “your holding it wrong”… Seriously though you could easily fit the Buttons on the bottom of the G3, and either have a larger screen compared to the S5, or a smaller overall phone with out the onscreen buttons.
Personally, my FAVORITE buttons are slim physical clicky buttons like the Galaxy Active line and the Droid X. Best of both worlds and no accidental button presses!
Not sure what you are arguing but a better photo would be this one
Look at the usable space on the max vs the 2014 X or the Maxx vs the X when you factor in the space you lose on almost every app because of the on screen buttons, it’s a different story.
Plus you can see the “13 Maxx with it’s 5.0” screen is about the same size as the “14 X with it’s 5.2” screen, but much bigger than the “13 X with it’s 4.7” screen assuming all else stays the same. The “14 Maxx with it’s 5.2” screen and bottom buttons buttons will be noticeably bigger than the “14 X with out them
Last years 5.0″ screen has the same usable space as this years 5.2” X
photos
Ummm, the G3 and the M8 have 5. 5 and 5. 2 inch screens, respectively, GS5 has 5. 1.
Yeah, if even those. Devs have been slow to implement immersive mode. I’d much rather have off screen buttons than the on screen buttons I have now.
It was a great option for Google to add to Android but there’s no logical reason to use it on any phone that has room for the buttons under the screen that I can think of or have heard.
And browsers, if you’re using the right ones.
Well, we’ve apparently come to a place where it’s considered “better” to reduce the available screen real estate in all applications even when there is plenty of room below the display for capacitive buttons.
Also true, but for the 99% of apps that don’t support Google’s mystery, almost non existent immersive mode,. Google maps, chrome, camera, gallery, newsstand etc.. Without resulting to 3rd payr party options this to sucks. Because of the lost 1/2″ of screen size. So…..
True, but the ones on the Maxx Suck, so…
I can only assume at this point that consumers have expressed an
interest in dedicated capacitive buttons on phones. Otherwise it makes
no sense to include the extra cost and space to include them. Disheartening.
Or because of burn in (OLED display).
That is interesting. I have never herd of that problem. You would think the notification bar at the top of the phone would have similar issues with the standard power, connectivity, etc. icons
It can/does. My Gnex had the wifi symbol and bar background burned in. The newer OLEDs aren’t nearly as bad as that, though, and probably only the demo units would suffer from that issue over the lifetime of the phone.
Well crap.
My old GNex also had the whole notification bar burned in, and also the keyboard due to a lot of IM chatting. I also always had the screen at 100% brightness. So far my Moto X I got back in November 2013 does not, but with this phone I have the screen set to auto brightness, if it matters. We will see how it is in another year though, but I also do not chat as much on it now. I still prefer on screen buttons over capacitive.
My GNEX is nearly unusable for the same reason.
Have no burn ins on my current moto x about a year later.
Burn in doesn’t happen that fast.
Not if you don’t use your phone often. I’ve had phones showing burn in after a few months.
My GS3 has a game Burned in after 6 months, My Galaxy Nexus didn’t have this happen to it with the same game after 1 1/2 years
So why do we care? 2 years is as long as I will have this phone. Doubt ill have any burn ins at that point either, unless i always leave my phone display set to never time out.
Glad I wasn’t the only one thinking this. I would totally switch to “Evil Red” had this had on-screen navigation and more storage.
Guess I’ll keep holding out for that mythical XT1092.
Don’t understand the complaints about capacitive buttons either. It’s 5.2″ display, how much bigger does it need to be? I’m very interested but will probably pass, due to the lack of a 64 GB option and lack of SD Card slot. C’mon Moto! Storage is cheap, and 64 GB doesn’t take up any more room on the PCB than 32 GB! And at pennies per GB, it’s not a price thing either!
It’s not the loss of screen real estate its the headache of hitting those buttons when you don’t want to.
I never get full immerse mode with capacitive buttons, on games I get screwed up because when I have to swipe down the Notification bar comes down still even with the mode on, it’s effing annoying, and the same inside apps as well, this doesn’t happen with on screen nav
Android need to unify in experience. This need to happen for all devices.This also mean less work for OEM’s.
Finally! Doubt there will be an SD card slot, but that would make this the best phone on the market.
You guys all seem top be forgetting how ugly the back of this thing looked in those leaked photos… I really hope it was just some bad pictures…
THIS!!! I just posted the same thing. That kevlar back and horrendous design is a deal breaker for me.
Lmfao… You can tell all that from leaked specs from a benchmark and a picture of the back. Having not seen, touched, or talked to anyone that has? Man, you’re good. I will wait til it actually comes out and there have been some reviews
I meant it from a purely specs standpoint. Not design or actual real world use. But you’re right, there could be other factors that make it not as good as it looks on paper. I would be pissed too if I wasn’t on Verizon.
3gb for what?? Just like the G3, useless specs.
Useless comment. QHD display, 3GB is far from useless.
Hopefully Moto utilizes that 3gb better than LG did – though if it has similar software to the X, it should be fine.
I never said anything about QHD, but tell me how the G3 utilizes 3gb of Ram.
Higher res screen naturally uses more memory to display and move around all those pixels between multiple apps, tabs, etc. On a 720 display 3GB is a lot less beneficial than on a 1440.
Well guess I learned something new today.
just stop. more ram, more better
You can never complain about having too much ram or space. I think one day we will be able to run a full blown OS (like chrome OS) from our phones when connected to monitors and keyboards. I believe the phones of today are powerful
enough to handle an operating system like Windows XP with no problems.
Back in my day we were using Windows 95/DOS on cpu’s running
at 66MHZ, 8 megabytes of Ram, 320 megabytes of storage ,14.4kb modems and 1024×768 15” monitors. Just
to put that into perspective 1GB = 1000MB, download speeds are faster than my
home cable internet, cpu have between 4
and 8 cores running at over 2GHZ a piece and we have hit 1440×2560 resolution.
QHD, SD805, 3GB Ram, 20MP Front cam, and a big battery?? dayumm
AND it has a TURBO charger!
Comes with, or is compatible with… pretty significant difference IMHO
Huh? Why? Also a flagship with the name of the gimmick in the name would come with aforementioned charger.
Nothing has mentioned that it will actually come with a turbo charger. I hope it does, but being compatible does not mean it’s included. Just like how many phones are qi compatible but don’t come with a qi charger.
Didn’t say compatible, I said it’s the main “theme” of the phone, the Droid “Turbo” which is turbo charges, charges fast. If there was a Samsung qi and they were showing off the wireless charging as the main “thing” of the phone then I would expect it to come with one.
Lack of barometer is puzzling, though. Also, why have Verizon insisted on capacitive buttons for the DROID TURBO?
I currently have the Droid Maxx, and I was also disappointed that the Maxx did not have the onscreen nav buttons of the Moto X. But, from many reviews I have read, I am starting to believe that the onscreen buttons are not the best choice. From the many apps that do not use immersive mode (removing the onscreen buttons to allow use of the entire screen), to the multiple claims of nav button or black bar screen burn in, I think I am happy with the capacitive buttons.
If this comes out quick enough, this will be my next phone. Really want the Moto X, but Verizon won’t like me upgrade swap my unlimited line AND get a 32 GB motomaker version w/o losing unlimited data. Since this will be a direct Verizon sale, will be able to get the 32gb version with an online upgrade swap.
I was wondering about this as I’m in the same boat. Looks like Droid Turbo FTW!
Why does Motorola save all the good phones for vzw?
No barometer, wtf! No deal. j/k
I know, how am I going to tell how many bars are around me now?
OK Google find me a bar.
Seriously… It’s like they don’t even listen to their customers.
Too large to appeal to the OG Moto X fans, too big to appeal to the GS5 and G2 fans, too small to appeal to the phablet fans. And likely no microSD slot either which is just the nail in the coffin. Alas.
And because it’s Verizon full price will be at least $6-750 or $2-300 sub
128 gb would require densities which are not industry standard. There is no way any OEM would take on this level of technical risk for storage… not Apple, not Samsung, not Motorola….
Are you referring to screen size alone? Or the extra bulk from a hefty battery? This is the exact same screen size as the LG G2 and only .1″ larger than the S5.
I could do without MicroSD provided Moto surprises us with a 64gb or 128gb option. You generally can’t install applications to the SD card anyway, so I think more onboard storage is preferable.
As a phablet fan I really do want to love this phone but I might just hold out for the samu if the battery is alright….I’m so conflicted (also there is no way I’m getting the new note. I currently have the note 3 and really need a brake from touchwiz)
lulz… was totally going to make a comment about the lack of barometer too
Haha this was my first thought too. I really wish all manufacturers would include this very inexpensive, low powered sensor. It is much easier on the battery to obtain approximate elevation data with a barometer than using the GPS for exact elevation, similar to how cell tower and wifi proximity can be used to approximate location at a much lesser battery cost than the GPS.
I agree, I think all android phones should have it this day and age. It does make a big difference on the GPS lock.
As long as it has VZ Navigator…..
expandable memory? I need more than 32GB, this is ridiculous.
Why?
Media storage. My Galaxy Nexus was 32 GB, and once I started using Spotify Premium (I’ve since switched to Play All Access because Spotify doens’t support Chromecast) storage space disappeared quickly. Just recently upgraded to a 32 gb G3, and have a 64 gb microSD card in the phone.
I have Spotify Premium and a Droid MAXX 16gb, I have 6gb available. Everyone uses their stuff different but do you need all your playlist available offline, movies? etc..? I would check into a E-Slim down.
Yes, I need everything offline at all times. I have over 16 GB of music and don’t use streaming services.
I’m in sales, so I drive a lot for work, and have 3 gb of data, so I like having lots of music offline.
How did you get ahold of a 16GB DROID MAXX? MAXX boards are 32GB as far as I know.
My GF has a Verizon employee Ultra but with a dev edition MAXX board in it so it’s 32GB. Ahh the joys of having so many phone parts lying around.
It’s what my phone says, 6gb used, hardware information says 16gb ROM:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/device/smartphone/droid-maxx-16gb-black?&zipRdr=y
Ahh I see. I wasn’t tracking that they released it with only 16GB.
I had to Google it but back in April they launched a 16GB maxx without telling anyone.
Is yours glossy or matte finished?
Actually Verizon sells a 16GB and 32GB version of the Maxx. Go check on Swappa, there are a lot of 16GB Droid Maxx’s available. Mostly in Red.
Thats exactly what I’m doing now lol. I don’t have any DROID MAXX’s in full red. So I might have to pick a couple up to experiment on.
I have seen storage devices that use the microSD port on the phone (they look like that “Square” thing that accepts credit cards. They reportedly work very well and would work well in lieu of dedicated microSD.
Yeah, the Meenova. I got a couple of them a year ago, they work well. Looks like they have an updated version out now. Only issue is if your device doesn’t support On the go, you have to transfer the files to your device before having access to them. At least that’s how it is on my Nexus 7, but my DNA could play music right of this thing. Still love it for solving my problem, but it’s not nearly as elegant a solution as simply having more internal memory.
You mean the microUSB port, right? yeah, I tried one of those reversible USB drives once. I worry about the already fragile microUSB port taking even more of a beating. Best to just have a dedicated microSD slot. Still waiting for a phone with 64GB internal + microSD slot.
Yes – MicroUSB sorry! My thought was that you could use that sort of thing to swap files to and from when 32gb wouldn’t cut it. Never used one myself just heard positive feedback about the,
Because not everyone wants to store their stuff (pictures, music) in “the cloud” and have to pay to access it. If I have 64 GB internal storage or an SD Card slot, I can access it whenever I want and however I want. And my tiered data doesn’t take a hit either.
Why not
screw clouds
Cloud hasn’t failed me in any way big yet, it’s not 2008 everything is pretty reliable now.
I don’t care. I want localized storage. Putting my stuff in someone else’s hands, no thanks
Motorola is not really making any money. If they add expandable memory they’ve have to pay Microsoft for the format patent they hold and I’m sure Google wants to avoid that. That’s one reason I believe Nexus and Motorola devices don’t have expandle memory. I may be wrong though.
The G has it, though. If they can stick it in the $180 super-budget phone, why the heck not go ahead and put it in the flagship they can charge an arm, leg, and firstborn for?
This.
Oh I didn’t know that, well it makes no sense not to include one in every phone then.
The Moto E has it and its even more of a low-end, cut-rate budget device than the 2nd gen G or G w/ LTE that have microSD! No, this is a Google/carrier play for $, nothing more.
I thought that was more of a design choice starting with the Verizon Nexus and then HTC and Motorola started following the same non-sense. And I guess because people really wanted expandable memory so HTC
brought it back with the Max. I personally believe that all phones should have SD card slots and removable memory. It’s the primary reason for sticking with Samsung the past 2 years. That would have made the Moto X phone of the year in my book. I could live with a 16GB phone and a 128GB SD card with swappable battery. Heck, I would love to see a hot-swappable battery setup; zero downtime.
Are you homeless?
Why would anyone need to carry so much stuff in their phone all the time.? I just can’t understand it.
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/take-my-money.gif
I hope this covers it…
That all sounds spectacular. One question though: how locked down are Verizon’s variants of the Moto X? Did the last string of devices ever get root or a bootloader unlock from Devs?
Look up “SunShine Bootloader Unlock Tool”. Works on the X/Droid Max/Ultra/Mini on 4.4.3 and some versions on 4.4.4 (not sure how that part is)
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/09/22/sunshine-bootloader-unlock-tool-released-for-moto-x-droid-family/
That’s promising at the very least. Potential for an unlock and a MAXX style battery? Might need to be my new business line.
This is quickly becoming what may be my next phone since the new X doesn’t have a dev edition for Verizon. The more i see of the turbo, the more I like it.
I’d like a dev edition for Verizon Moto X as well, but with the useful Moto apps, and quicker updating to newer versions of Android… it makes my “need” for it that much less. The only reason I haven’t purchased a Moto X 2014 is my phone is on a business plan, and all I can get is the 16gb version of the phone, which isn’t enough storage. Turbo is tempting. It’s going to be either that or the Nexus (please have a 5.2 version).
My plan with work is up for renewal mid Oct. The only thing i dont like about this turbo is the size. I’m one of the “keep the screen below 5 inches” people. We may be few, but we are adamant.