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  • Froyo, Gingerbread, Ice Cream… None of it makes a diff to me as long as this isn’t 4g.  How much longer do Verizon customers have to wait for a 4g phone with a hardware keyboard?

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  • It’s already been reported that 2.3.2/2.3.3 isn’t optimized for dualcore processors. This is probably why the DX2 didn’t ship with it, and also why the D3 probably won’t either. It’s apparently been fixed in 2.3.4, but that has only been out for a few weeks. 

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  • Something has got to change. I am spending a lot of money on Verizon. Paying 120 bucks a month on let downs. Sprint continues to make leaving Verizon very tempting. I have been up for an upgrade for awhile now. My Droid OG has been great, but it is old and acting buggy. I see the Droid X2 as a possible options but shipping with Froyo is just silly, and I don’t have the option of running a stable custom Rom. I want to believe Motorola will upgrade it soon, but I am a little shaken. Every 4g device has been a large let down. The Revolution was shockingly bad. To top it off we get charged 50 to a 100 dollars more on a phone because Verizon thinks LTE is worth it, but considering it has gone down twice now I am doubtful that its worth a crap anymore. 

    In the end I just wish we had some transparency. We never truly know why a device is delayed or why a device is shipped with an outdated OS. We don’t know why Motorola has to lock down every bootloader. We don’t know why Verizon won’t invest in a Nexus device. The only thing I do know is that my 120 dollar bill is ready to be paid. 

    • did you know verizons insurance co put 2g sd cards in the refurbished cells when you make a claim. on top of that they want the damaged cell back. WHY?  so they can sell the 16g sd card. another scam or what?

      • I am fine with paying more a month for consistent service. I just don’t like having to push myself to justify staying with the carrier. Maybe Verizon just likes to through most of the money into the network, but that doesn’t mean you should let the line up just tank. Sprint basically supports a few great device options. The Evo and the Epic were all they really had for a long time, but that is fine as long as the devices remain competitive. They have a Nexus device, a Dual-core device, and all the single core sliders and what not you  want for a competitive price, and all of it on 4g. 

        I just want Verizon to remain competitive. Granted LTE isn’t everywhere so I understand not giving the droid X2 4g, but it could have had some more RAM/ROM. It could have had a front facing camera, and Motorola could have unlocked the bootloader. I think this industry needs more transparency.  

  • It is ridiculous that Verizon, the biggest carrier in America doesn’t get any of the best phones. It seems we (Verizon customers) are being forced into relying on Motorola and they have consistently disappointed since the D1. Every other manufacturer only releases outdated tech on VZW. I’m due for an update in August, if Verizon isn’t offering something desirable by then I may have to switch carriers, get a phone that doesn’t have outdated tech/locked bootloader and save myself some money in the process.

  • I’m not worried about GB because that’ll come in time.

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  • At CES they did say all their new phones will come with froyo this year. 

  • honestly, i would not be surprised. seeing how the track record of android fragmentation, it would almost expect froyo coming on devices until ice cream sandwich comes out

  • This makes me lose all faith in a Gingerbread update for the DX2 anytime soon. This also makes me lose even more faith in Moto and strongly reconsider whether or not I want to lock in to another Moto device. Even Sony-Ericsson released a GB phone already, and it’s vanilla on top of that.

  • Oops…my D1 is running Gingerbread…is there something wrong with this picture?

  • I really want this phone!  It better come with 3.3 or I’ll punch someone at Verizon!

  • Just stupid running 2.2 when 2.3 has been out for quite some time and 2.4 is on its way by christmas.

    maybe the NEW android handset os alliance to curb this type of bullshit will knock them in the right direction.

  • I thought Froyo didn’t utilize a dual core processor. Would this be a dual core that is using just one core of it’s two?

    • Pretty much. Thing is, neither does GB. So multicores cores won’t mean much until ICS.

      • So that would say that the Bionic is really waiting on ICS otherwise what is the point.  No dual core action without ICS.

        • I hope so, otherwise, like you said, what is the point. You do get a slight boost, but that would be akin to overclocking. The multicores wouldn’t be able to be truly utilized until ICS, so getting a multicore phone before then is kind of a waste (for those looking to enjoy the multicores anyways).

          • It’s not that it doesn’t use them. It’s just not “optimized” for them. If it didn’t use the second core at all, you wouldn’t see the DX2 doubling the benchmarks of the DX1, since they’d both then be effectively “1Ghz”.

          • I said “truly utilized”, which they aren’t. 

            Not to mention you can pull off a similar benchmark with the DX1 by overclocking it once you receive the update. It’s the advanced cpu (among other hardware improvements) that gives the DX2 it’s benchmark, not the dual cores themselves (since it is unable to utilize both at the moment). Once the dual cores can be properly utilized, then that benchmark could possibly double.

            Hence why it’s a waste to buy a new device until ICS comes out.

    • froyo isnt “optimized” for multicore. What i think this means is that its up to motorola to make android utilize the second core (which means it will be done poorly)

      • The second core won’t get utilized until ICS. Moto only deals with the hardware and the UI. It’s Google that has a direct hand in the OS and Verizon that has the final say (apparently) on when the OS can be distributed.

          • Not really. They are developing it and it should come out end of this year. It’s more like IntangibleOS, it exists, we just can’t touch it…….yet.

        • I don’t why u guys keep blaming motor. Its not Motorola fault updates are not comong

  • You are all sounding like you have sand in your vajay jay, the truth is that froyo isn’t a big deal, the phone will be rooted and runing what ever the hell the user wants faster than what people think, and 4g? You people are so spoiled, 3g does everything I need and even more and I use over 5gigs of data a month, 4g is best to be left for when its really ready cause even the 4g that’s out ain’t even true 4 g, just enjoy the phone for what it can do and stop crying over minor bs that we all know us hackers can fix, except the 4g but 4g is over rated any ways.

  • You are all sounding like you have sand in your vajay jay, the truth is that froyo isn’t a big deal, the phone will be rooted and runing what ever the hell the user wants faster than what people think, and 4g? You people are so spoiled, 3g does everything I need and even more and I use over 5gigs of data a month, 4g is best to be left for when its really ready cause even the 4g that’s out ain’t even true 4 g, just enjoy the phone for what it can do and stop crying over minor bs that we all know us hackers can fix, except the 4g but 4g is over rated any ways.

    • Yes, it’ll probably be rooted.

      Which is great, until carriers and content providers (looking at you google) block devices with root. 

      • Muahahahahahahahaha they can only try, btw I love netflix on my d1 btw any uses that box thing that you hook up to your cable and can stream it to your phone? Saw the xoom using it and I’m getting one, freaking amazing, using zune network, netflix and hulu on xoom thanks to that makes my tab compleate

        • They were able to block some things… I’m pretty sure the new Google movies service doesn’t work on rooted Xooms…

          • Who really cares about the Google movies service anyways?  Now Netflix is a different story…

    • But with a locked bootloader getting updated software on it is going to take much longer, and I can guarantee it will have a locked bootloader. Things are also getting nastier for rooters now… trying to take part in movie services and such (rooted xoom issue), is being blocked due to concerns about DRM. Phones are getting locked down more, and more hardcore. So yes, running old software is a big issue. And it’s not okay for a company to be releasing a next generation device with an old OS. It’s bad business and bad practice. Also keep in mind, many people do not root their devices, is this fair to them? Again too, with a locked bootloader until the leaks come out people have not been able to get new versions of the OS, so they will still be waiting awhile. Many people already have Gingerbread on their DX/D2, but how long before they can get it on the new, next gen device they just paid top dollar for? It’s completely absurd and yes, it is a valid complaint. 

      • your idea holds some valid points, except that both Motorola and HTC have announced that they are “looking at the bootloader” issue…most say this means that locked down bootloaders are going to be no more

        • Except with moto the caveat was if the carriers approve of unlocking it.. considering verizons history, they are unlikely to approve.

        • All his points are valid.  I agree with Tesseract 100%.   All we care about is if we can root and change it.  What about everyone else buying the “next gen” device only to have an older OS on it than what is current on last gen devices?  Its complete BS!  I refuse to support a company that is not dedicated to a reasonable lifecycle of their Android smartphones.  Releasing crap already being the curve is unforgivable.  Moto is losing it while others are pushing forward…

    • Like I said Verizon’s system with their bloatware and other sofwrare makes it almost impossible to put new is on it

    • While Gingerbread might not be that big of deal to you, what if the next version is?   GB has been out now for what, 6 or 7 months?  And Moto is releasing phones with the PREVIOUS version yet?  If it is so hard for Moto to keep current with versions, then DON’T RELEASE SO MANY FREAKIN PHONES!  There are a lot of people who don’t want to root who deserve the *current* OS, not something 2 releases back.  Heck, to be honest, it has been nice running the D1 on GB with a custom rom, but to be honest, I’m tired of flashing and restoring apps every time only to find an idiosyncrasy with the rom.  There’s some great ones out there, but after a while, I just want to work with what I have.  I’d rather have a bug free OEM GB rom.

      Moto really wowed the world with the D1.  I have not seen anything from them with that same effect since.  Remember, the D1 was *released* with the newest version of Android that nobody else had.  Now they just pump out ho hum incremental upgrades with yesterday’s OS.  I’m really getting frustrated with them as they seemed to have lost “the hunger”.   Come on Moto, make me eat my words and release something as compelling as the D1 was in November of 2009.

    • I will agree with you that there is nothing wrong at all with 3g, but for the rest of your post, if you like to stay behind in the technology or maybe you just live in a 3g spot that Verizon will not get to in about a year then ok. 

      But I for one would like to have 4g , my OG (Rooted) Dorid is getting way slow and I am feeling very left behind, even though I love my OG it’s time for the upgrade into the ral world lol. 

      I live in a 4g zone and by 2012/2013 most of the US will have 4g.  So, why pick up a device that is only 3g and short change yourself some of the other great features.  As this year is about half way through to 2012 3g is fast becoming  obsolete.

      As far as Froyo is concerned we are already very close to Gingerbread, if rooted you’re already there.  know we are talking about Ice Cream Sandwich, Froyo  will be an after thought  in the long list of updated OS software coming out. 

      So we are not whinning, just expressing our frustration with the OEM’s like Moto for not giving us a device that like the OG Droid a trend setter 😛

  • I may have to leave Verizon and get a Nexus device if this keeps up, this is ridiculous. 

    First the D2 has a locked bootloader and now this… 10 to 1 D3 has a locked bootloader, tons of bloatware and blur, very hard to root, and runs froyo. 

    This is beyond stupid. My D2 already has Liberty Gingerbread, why would I buy a phone with new tech that has software way behind my current outdated phone?

  • I may have to leave Verizon and get a Nexus device if this keeps up, this is ridiculous. 

    First the D2 has a locked bootloader and now this… 10 to 1 D3 has a locked bootloader, tons of bloatware and blur, very hard to root, and runs froyo. 

    This is beyond stupid. My D2 already has Liberty Gingerbread, why would I buy a phone with new tech that has software way behind my current outdated phone?

    • That’s where i went left obsolete Verizon and got me a nexus my Droid x is garbage compared to it

  • I am seeing a trend here that we all are seeing and really not pointing out.  Motorola has been disaponiting us consistently while HTC is on target with better styling and specs so far on thier devices. 

    Sure the Atrix is a beat but, there have been plenty of problems on that other network.  and with the pulling of the Bionic, because the phone was not up to par with the likes of HTC and ther competitors out there (This coming from a Veriozn rep that I spoke with))

    Whenever Moto comes out with a device it’s hold your breath and hope for the best.  The OG needs a great predecessor and so far Moto hasn’t delivered IMHO.  Let’s see what the D3 will bring in it’s final release. 

    • Sorry only way I know to post on this site but anyway… kellex if u were a true android fan you rename your site nexus life

      • Actually the site wasn’t branded as Droid-Life because of Android it was in honor of the Verizon Droid brand of phones.

        • Which claims to be android but all it is feature phones running Droid /android OK? Verizon is not for android its for Verizon. Forget about your droids being true android ever again on Verizon.

        • Which claims to be android but all it is feature phones running Droid /android OK? Verizon is not for android its for Verizon. Forget about your droids being true android ever again on Verizon.

          • Except if it weren’t for the marketing genius at Verizon that decided to pony up a couple mil to George Lucas to completely reinvigorate and in many ways invent the Android “brand,” there’s no doubt that Android would be just another also-ran behind iOS.

            Trolling at its best…

    • No the reasons they pulled the bionic is because othe tetra was not playing nice with Lte. HTC has not done anything that was not already done before

      • Ahh, I think you need to check your facts on that Binglut.  HTC has done a wonderful job with their devices.  From Sense to the styling of their devices. I would not call Motoblur the best out othe skins from the different manufatures, or cordone any skin at all. Pure Vanilla Goolge is the best!!!

        Also Mot while I am hoping that the Bionice is retooled and hopefully praying for a better looking device can take the challenge of rivaling HTC devices.  I love my OG Dorid and thaought Moto would capitolize off the sucess of the OG but that wasn’t the case.

    • Uh…..no.  HTC has the same designs over and over.  All their phones are beginning to look the same and it’s getting boring.  Also, their specs are behind Moto and Samsung; Atrix and GSII > Sensation and they even beat it to market by a few months.  I’m not a huge fan of sense personally and consider HTC to be over rated.

      The Bionic was retooled because of unrepairable problems with the LTE chipset and the Tegra 2, including overheating, performance and battery issues.

      Get your facts straight.

      • So, your saying Motorola’s dismal Blur is better than HTC’s Sense?? I would
        argue that the majority of people would highly disagree with you on that
        point. (Personally i would rather have Vanilla either way). But, that’s a
        personal choice.

        As far as HTC’s design, well lets just say the Atrix and the Bionic are the
        ugliest looking devices out there. HTC’s devices do look alike, but it’s
        still looks sexier than Moto’s design team has come up with. And as far as
        performance both OEM’s are running pretty close in technology but Moto has
        the biggest set backs so far.

        I own the OG Droid and love what moto did on the OG but after that it was
        down hill in terms of expectations compared to the likes of HTC. The OG
        Droid was predecessors were a joke unless you like Stars triva phones. The
        DX was good but the EVO is much better. the Atrix has so many problems on
        that network, and the Bionic was pulled. No excuse because of this or that,
        please that’s what testing is all about. finding the bugs before you market
        and release.

        Moto was caught trying to deploy a device that was not ready and was rushing
        too fast with the other execuses. You don’t put out a product that is so
        buggy then withdraw because of it’s many flaws. That’s embarrassing, You
        test before marketing. I am waiting to see how the Bionic makeover comes
        out and hope thats it’s out of this world, but Moto’s track record hasn’t
        lived up to it;s hype since the OG.DX, and thats about it!!! HTC seems to
        be listening to the masses.

        Unlike Moto

  • If it comes without 4G it means nothing to me. I won’t even care. If they do a world phone to LTE change as they did with the first d2’s, fine, then I will buy two but otherwise this phone its useless

  • If they release it with froyo it will flop. I mean some people could get over the fact that it was 3g only but if you are releasing a phone in june or later with froyo when other phones with gb and the next version are set to come out people dont want to get screwed on updates. Just release it with gb, I dont understand why they cant release phones with up to date OS’s I wish google would step in and fix this.

  • No 4G and Froyo? This is getting pathetic Verizon…

    The Bionic better be a monster, and I see the leaked ICS test device had CDMA…. These devices better be players if verizon wants to keep pace with ATT-Mobile in the future, because all of a sudden coverage wont be so skewed to Big Red anymore…….

      • enjoy your 1.5 Mbps then, and I’ll keep getting 20 Mbps thank you very much

        • I hook up to wifi most of the time so I’m just fine without 4G, I’ll get it when it reaches the cities I live in, thanks. 

          Keep that in mind too, there are quite a few cities where 4G hasn’t arrived and will not be around for awhile… people in those cities don’t get much out of a 4G LTE device…

        • Would rather have slightly slower speeds that are constant and stable then somewhat faster speeds that are unstable, inconsistent, prone to crashing, and have battery killing tendencies.

          Plus what Tesseract 3 said.
          Not to mention it will be a little more expensive once those tiered plans kick in.

          I can wait. 4G is not that big a deal. 3G meets all my needs, and WiFi picks up the slack if necessary.

  • There is no way they release this with Froyo.. no way!! Verizon/Motorola don’t disappoint me… I’m excited for this device, please don’t ruin it.

    But on the bright side, the fact that it’s in the system means it has to be coming soon right?

    • That’s how I feel. I am really excited about this device but the horror that is Froyo is a huge mistake. There better be an announcement upon release that Gingerbread will be available in an OTA upon purchase. I give itit two weeks before this is released if that as this is almost exactly what they did with the DX2. Moto better be working on that update fast or this will be an epic fail, again. Owning the Droid2global and suffering the Moto-crap so why put it on this device. They’re panicking because of HTC, and I see why as HTC is kicking Motorola’s *** right now.

        • Gingerbread is underrated. It improves performance exponentially. You, sir/maam/it, are an ijot. You can GTFO now.

          • It sure is underrated and damn right I have reason to be pissed off with the shit service Moto has done with their half baked devices. Gingerbread was the only thing that made Moto-Crap bearable as not everyone roots or even wants to have to go through that process. Let them keep doing this and they’ll be right back where they were when they released the Razr.

  • There is no way they release this with Froyo.. no way!! Verizon/Motorola don’t disappoint me… I’m excited for this device, please don’t ruin it.

    But on the bright side, the fact that it’s in the system means it has to be coming soon right?

    • Yes, that shocks me too.

      My hypothesis would be the fact that Moto anticipated Google to launch Gingerbread later than it happened to be. A commitment to its old product lines like Droid, DroidX makes thing even worse.
      UI customisation slows the development stage dramatically, IMO. However, HTC is rather proactive to this situation.

      Hope this changes in the future 😀

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