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	<title>Comments on: iPhone 5 on Verizon Can&#8217;t do Simultaneous Voice and Data, Something Android Phones Have No Problem With</title>
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		<title>By: LionStone</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/09/13/iphone-5-on-verizon-cant-do-simultaneous-voice-and-data/comment-page-2/#comment-2204628</link>
		<dc:creator>LionStone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 03:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cool...Inc4 does it on 3G and 4G]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool&#8230;Inc4 does it on 3G and 4G</p>
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		<title>By: LionStone</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/09/13/iphone-5-on-verizon-cant-do-simultaneous-voice-and-data/comment-page-2/#comment-2204610</link>
		<dc:creator>LionStone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 03:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You know what a funny thing is?&quot;

Yes, you saying dumb things. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You know what a funny thing is?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, you saying dumb things. </p>
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		<title>By: tilly</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/09/13/iphone-5-on-verizon-cant-do-simultaneous-voice-and-data/comment-page-2/#comment-2201168</link>
		<dc:creator>tilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know what a funny thing is? The talk and data usage at the same is a patent that google is held for android devices. So Apple isn&#039;t going to COPY it like droid DOES with apple!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what a funny thing is? The talk and data usage at the same is a patent that google is held for android devices. So Apple isn&#8217;t going to COPY it like droid DOES with apple!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: squiddy20</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/09/13/iphone-5-on-verizon-cant-do-simultaneous-voice-and-data/comment-page-2/#comment-2197074</link>
		<dc:creator>squiddy20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brilliant response! I really can&#039;t come up with anything better! You&#039;ve stumped me with your awesome vocabulary /s
&quot;Pecker face&quot;? Did it take you 10 hours to think that up? You claim to be &quot;embarrassing&quot; me, and yet you have nothing with which to embarrass me. Not even your &quot;insults&quot; (or your pitiful attempts at them since they fail so miserably) embarrass me. I usually laugh at how stupid and downright wrong they are. For instance, as I said before, in what universe is a Nexus phone &quot;bloatware filled&quot;? It&#039;s completely STOCK Android you stupid moron. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant response! I really can&#8217;t come up with anything better! You&#8217;ve stumped me with your awesome vocabulary /s<br />
&#8220;Pecker face&#8221;? Did it take you 10 hours to think that up? You claim to be &#8220;embarrassing&#8221; me, and yet you have nothing with which to embarrass me. Not even your &#8220;insults&#8221; (or your pitiful attempts at them since they fail so miserably) embarrass me. I usually laugh at how stupid and downright wrong they are. For instance, as I said before, in what universe is a Nexus phone &#8220;bloatware filled&#8221;? It&#8217;s completely STOCK Android you stupid moron. </p>
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		<title>By: yarrellray</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/09/13/iphone-5-on-verizon-cant-do-simultaneous-voice-and-data/comment-page-2/#comment-2195801</link>
		<dc:creator>yarrellray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 04:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh yeah that sounds so wonderful pecker face. Now time for you to go play with yourself as usual.. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah that sounds so wonderful pecker face. Now time for you to go play with yourself as usual.. </p>
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		<title>By: Silver Veloz</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/09/13/iphone-5-on-verizon-cant-do-simultaneous-voice-and-data/comment-page-2/#comment-2195177</link>
		<dc:creator>Silver Veloz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A good example of using voice and date together.  I have a Droid Bionic and when I&#039;m using my lapdock and the phone rings, I can answer and it goes automatically to speakerphone, while I&#039;m still on the net browsing.  The lapdock is powered by the Bionic.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good example of using voice and date together.  I have a Droid Bionic and when I&#8217;m using my lapdock and the phone rings, I can answer and it goes automatically to speakerphone, while I&#8217;m still on the net browsing.  The lapdock is powered by the Bionic.   </p>
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		<title>By: squiddy20</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/09/13/iphone-5-on-verizon-cant-do-simultaneous-voice-and-data/comment-page-2/#comment-2194102</link>
		<dc:creator>squiddy20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In what universe do you &quot;embarrass&quot; me? You know relatively nothing about me. You don&#039;t know my name, where I work or live, my likes or dislikes, etc. You just come up with hopeless &quot;insults&quot; that you think might fit me, but are usually far from the truth. It&#039;s &quot;pretty comical&quot; that you think you&#039;re &quot;embarrassing&quot; me. Come back when you know anything of substance about me.


&quot;you could hold my crouch on a bad day.&quot; 1. I think the word you were looking for is &quot;crotch&quot;. Please try harder next time. It&#039;s pitiful that you can&#039;t even make a well thought insult. Downright sad. 2. I wouldn&#039;t want to &quot;hold your crotch&quot; at any time. God knows how many diseases and germs are covering it.


&quot;Your a pitiful homosexual&quot; So what if I am? The fact that you would insult me, or anyone else about their sexual preference speaks volumes of how ignorant and stereotypical you are. Grow the f*ck up, or shut up.


&quot;trust when I find out where you are it&#039;s going to be a grand day for the Internet&quot; Good luck with that. Considering you can&#039;t even use Google to fact-check your sorry ass, I&#039;m not worried in the least.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In what universe do you &#8220;embarrass&#8221; me? You know relatively nothing about me. You don&#8217;t know my name, where I work or live, my likes or dislikes, etc. You just come up with hopeless &#8220;insults&#8221; that you think might fit me, but are usually far from the truth. It&#8217;s &#8220;pretty comical&#8221; that you think you&#8217;re &#8220;embarrassing&#8221; me. Come back when you know anything of substance about me.</p>
<p>&#8220;you could hold my crouch on a bad day.&#8221; 1. I think the word you were looking for is &#8220;crotch&#8221;. Please try harder next time. It&#8217;s pitiful that you can&#8217;t even make a well thought insult. Downright sad. 2. I wouldn&#8217;t want to &#8220;hold your crotch&#8221; at any time. God knows how many diseases and germs are covering it.</p>
<p>&#8220;Your a pitiful homosexual&#8221; So what if I am? The fact that you would insult me, or anyone else about their sexual preference speaks volumes of how ignorant and stereotypical you are. Grow the f*ck up, or shut up.</p>
<p>&#8220;trust when I find out where you are it&#8217;s going to be a grand day for the Internet&#8221; Good luck with that. Considering you can&#8217;t even use Google to fact-check your sorry ass, I&#8217;m not worried in the least.</p>
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		<title>By: yarrellray</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/09/13/iphone-5-on-verizon-cant-do-simultaneous-voice-and-data/comment-page-2/#comment-2193847</link>
		<dc:creator>yarrellray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can plaster anything you want it&#039;s pretty funny it&#039;s the same thing all the time I embarrass your pathetic staying at mommy&#039;s house little boy. You make me laugh at you daily your pretty comical thinking you are up on everything you could hold my crouch on a bad day. Your a pitiful homosexual who uses the Internet to stalk and troll and trust when I find out where you are it&#039;s going to be a grand day for the Internet. You are a well known coward but don&#039;t worry our day to roll up on you is pretty soon college boy. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can plaster anything you want it&#8217;s pretty funny it&#8217;s the same thing all the time I embarrass your pathetic staying at mommy&#8217;s house little boy. You make me laugh at you daily your pretty comical thinking you are up on everything you could hold my crouch on a bad day. Your a pitiful homosexual who uses the Internet to stalk and troll and trust when I find out where you are it&#8217;s going to be a grand day for the Internet. You are a well known coward but don&#8217;t worry our day to roll up on you is pretty soon college boy. </p>
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		<title>By: Michael Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/09/13/iphone-5-on-verizon-cant-do-simultaneous-voice-and-data/comment-page-2/#comment-2192402</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve NEVER used voice and data together in my life. Why would I want to start?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve NEVER used voice and data together in my life. Why would I want to start?</p>
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		<title>By: Yakuzahi</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/09/13/iphone-5-on-verizon-cant-do-simultaneous-voice-and-data/comment-page-2/#comment-2192202</link>
		<dc:creator>Yakuzahi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 06:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You will need SVDO in order to do it on 3G.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You will need SVDO in order to do it on 3G.</p>
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		<title>By: michael arazan</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/09/13/iphone-5-on-verizon-cant-do-simultaneous-voice-and-data/comment-page-1/#comment-2192085</link>
		<dc:creator>michael arazan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 06:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m talkin cross platform to using different devices and carriers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m talkin cross platform to using different devices and carriers.</p>
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		<title>By: fh</title>
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		<dc:creator>fh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 05:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rather than going on conjecture, you should take a look at the rationale from a design perspective:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6295/why-the-iphone-5-lacks-simultaneous-voice-and-lte-or-evdo-svlte-svdo-support-

In short, most other phones handle simultaneous voice and data using separate CDMA and LTE radios, and 3 antennas (1x Receive for both CDMA/LTE, 1x Transmit for CDMA, and 1x Transmit for LTE). New radios integrate, like the one in the iPhone5, integrate CDMA and broad LTE support into one chip. But you still need 3 separate antennas. Apple chose to go with just 2 (the same as on the 4s and 4):
1) to meet design (size, weight) requirements
2) to minimize the number of model variations to cover most markets around the world

The second point is the real sticking point. With only 3 iPhone 5 variations (which are all nearly identical because of the &quot;simplified&quot; antenna design), Apple is able to support 4 bands of GSM, 4 bands of WCDMA, 3 bands of CDMA/EVDO, and 8 bands of LTE.

By comparison, Samsung has no fewer than 9 Galaxy S3 variations to cover their global networks. (4x GSM, 5x WCDMA, 3x CDMA/EVDO, 6x LTE).

Once VoLTE rolls out, this will be a non-issue, and we might see other phone makers start adopting 2-antenna designs for similar size/weight purposes, since 3 antennas will no longer be necessary. It&#039;s just a gamble Apple decided to take early on.

Don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;m and Android believer, and I&#039;ve used an iPhone before and dislike it very much for many other reasons (iOS and its ecosystem is really poor). But lack of simultaneous voice and data is a temporary minor setback (until VoLTE arrives), and one only a minority of Apple fans will complain about (look how many still bought the 4 and 4s). On the other side, unified design reduces production costs and lets Apple rake in more money from the premium price.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than going on conjecture, you should take a look at the rationale from a design perspective:<br />
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/show/6295/why-the-iphone-5-lacks-simultaneous-voice-and-lte-or-evdo-svlte-svdo-support-" rel="nofollow">http://www.anandtech.com/show/6295/why-the-iphone-5-lacks-simultaneous-voice-and-lte-or-evdo-svlte-svdo-support-</a></p>
<p>In short, most other phones handle simultaneous voice and data using separate CDMA and LTE radios, and 3 antennas (1x Receive for both CDMA/LTE, 1x Transmit for CDMA, and 1x Transmit for LTE). New radios integrate, like the one in the iPhone5, integrate CDMA and broad LTE support into one chip. But you still need 3 separate antennas. Apple chose to go with just 2 (the same as on the 4s and 4):<br />
1) to meet design (size, weight) requirements<br />
2) to minimize the number of model variations to cover most markets around the world</p>
<p>The second point is the real sticking point. With only 3 iPhone 5 variations (which are all nearly identical because of the &#8220;simplified&#8221; antenna design), Apple is able to support 4 bands of GSM, 4 bands of WCDMA, 3 bands of CDMA/EVDO, and 8 bands of LTE.</p>
<p>By comparison, Samsung has no fewer than 9 Galaxy S3 variations to cover their global networks. (4x GSM, 5x WCDMA, 3x CDMA/EVDO, 6x LTE).</p>
<p>Once VoLTE rolls out, this will be a non-issue, and we might see other phone makers start adopting 2-antenna designs for similar size/weight purposes, since 3 antennas will no longer be necessary. It&#8217;s just a gamble Apple decided to take early on.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m and Android believer, and I&#8217;ve used an iPhone before and dislike it very much for many other reasons (iOS and its ecosystem is really poor). But lack of simultaneous voice and data is a temporary minor setback (until VoLTE arrives), and one only a minority of Apple fans will complain about (look how many still bought the 4 and 4s). On the other side, unified design reduces production costs and lets Apple rake in more money from the premium price.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim242</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim242</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 04:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Verizon is far from weak.  They have LTE coverage at my mom&#039;s house in the country.  The county she lives in is 2 hrs from a metro area, and only has a population of 4,000...in the entire county.  I have 4G all the way there, from Little Rock.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Verizon is far from weak.  They have LTE coverage at my mom&#8217;s house in the country.  The county she lives in is 2 hrs from a metro area, and only has a population of 4,000&#8230;in the entire county.  I have 4G all the way there, from Little Rock.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Ramos</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/09/13/iphone-5-on-verizon-cant-do-simultaneous-voice-and-data/comment-page-2/#comment-2191630</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Ramos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 04:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can do that with my GS3 and GNex even on 3G with Sprint...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can do that with my GS3 and GNex even on 3G with Sprint&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: squiddy20</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/09/13/iphone-5-on-verizon-cant-do-simultaneous-voice-and-data/comment-page-2/#comment-2191474</link>
		<dc:creator>squiddy20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 03:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oooo! You think you&#039;re a big man with &quot;high income&quot; just because you can afford to spend a few hundred dollars every few months? How pitiful. You talk big, and you even claim to have &quot;kicked Verizon to curb&quot; even though we all know you couldn&#039;t afford their services. Just 5 years ago, you were homeless on the streets of NYC. 1. If you knew how to manage your money, you wouldn&#039;t have been poor in the first place, and 2. even if you&#039;ve got the money to throw around for cell phones, most sane minded people wouldn&#039;t use it to jump from carrier to carrier on a whim. Sane people would use the money to better their lives, get a better education (which you&#039;re in so desperate need of), or enrich their life. You? You spend your money on useless smartphones which you &quot;push up on&quot;. 

&quot;You will never find a real job your not bringing anything to the table your a bum.&quot; Awww you must be talking about yourself: http://boweryapplications.org/Images/mmDocument/Red%20Door%20Jun2007.pdf Coming from a &quot;bum&quot; like yourself, I&#039;m not impressed.
&quot;crappy bloatware filled Sprint Galaxy Nexus&quot; HAHAHAHAHA! How stupid are you?! What Nexus phone is EVER &quot;bloatware filled&quot;?! I would stop here, but calling you out on your own stupidity is just plain hilarious!


&quot;you still have that Samsung Moment on Metro pcs&quot; Here&#039;s how I know you&#039;re pulling this pitiful &quot;insult&quot; out of your ass and/or lying yourself: The Moment was never on Metro PCS. I&#039;ve told you as much every single time you&#039;ve used this stupid little &quot;insult&quot;. You even once said I had a Moment on Simple Mobile, an alternative carrier that runs off of T-Mobile&#039;s GSM/HSPA+ network. The Moment was a CDMA ONLY phone, and was available ONLY on Sprint. Even a quick Google search would prove as much. Try some fact checking once in awhile. You&#039;ll make yourself look like less of a fool.


&quot;Pretty sure you won&#039;t be watching a close to 2hr podcast on that crappy slow as hell Nexus on Sprint.&quot; You&#039;re right, I won&#039;t be watching a 2 hour podcast because: 1. I don&#039;t have the time for that kind of stupidity 2. If I were to watch it, I&#039;d watch it on my 2009 MacBook Pro, not my smartphone, which would be connected to my Wifi network at home provided by Comcast. You just don&#039;t know when to shut up do you? Does it ever occur to you that not everyone relies on their smartphone for Internet access like you? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooo! You think you&#8217;re a big man with &#8220;high income&#8221; just because you can afford to spend a few hundred dollars every few months? How pitiful. You talk big, and you even claim to have &#8220;kicked Verizon to curb&#8221; even though we all know you couldn&#8217;t afford their services. Just 5 years ago, you were homeless on the streets of NYC. 1. If you knew how to manage your money, you wouldn&#8217;t have been poor in the first place, and 2. even if you&#8217;ve got the money to throw around for cell phones, most sane minded people wouldn&#8217;t use it to jump from carrier to carrier on a whim. Sane people would use the money to better their lives, get a better education (which you&#8217;re in so desperate need of), or enrich their life. You? You spend your money on useless smartphones which you &#8220;push up on&#8221;. </p>
<p>&#8220;You will never find a real job your not bringing anything to the table your a bum.&#8221; Awww you must be talking about yourself: <a href="http://boweryapplications.org/Images/mmDocument/Red%20Door%20Jun2007.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://boweryapplications.org/Images/mmDocument/Red%20Door%20Jun2007.pdf</a> Coming from a &#8220;bum&#8221; like yourself, I&#8217;m not impressed.<br />
&#8220;crappy bloatware filled Sprint Galaxy Nexus&#8221; HAHAHAHAHA! How stupid are you?! What Nexus phone is EVER &#8220;bloatware filled&#8221;?! I would stop here, but calling you out on your own stupidity is just plain hilarious!</p>
<p>&#8220;you still have that Samsung Moment on Metro pcs&#8221; Here&#8217;s how I know you&#8217;re pulling this pitiful &#8220;insult&#8221; out of your ass and/or lying yourself: The Moment was never on Metro PCS. I&#8217;ve told you as much every single time you&#8217;ve used this stupid little &#8220;insult&#8221;. You even once said I had a Moment on Simple Mobile, an alternative carrier that runs off of T-Mobile&#8217;s GSM/HSPA+ network. The Moment was a CDMA ONLY phone, and was available ONLY on Sprint. Even a quick Google search would prove as much. Try some fact checking once in awhile. You&#8217;ll make yourself look like less of a fool.</p>
<p>&#8220;Pretty sure you won&#8217;t be watching a close to 2hr podcast on that crappy slow as hell Nexus on Sprint.&#8221; You&#8217;re right, I won&#8217;t be watching a 2 hour podcast because: 1. I don&#8217;t have the time for that kind of stupidity 2. If I were to watch it, I&#8217;d watch it on my 2009 MacBook Pro, not my smartphone, which would be connected to my Wifi network at home provided by Comcast. You just don&#8217;t know when to shut up do you? Does it ever occur to you that not everyone relies on their smartphone for Internet access like you? </p>
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