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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft Surface Isn&#8217;t a Threat to Google [Opinion]</title>
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		<title>By: michael arazan</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/19/microsoft-surface-isnt-a-threat-to-google-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1885525</link>
		<dc:creator>michael arazan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 05:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The price for this surface is going to be $999. Its Microsoft&#039;s hail mary into the tablet world.I don&#039;t see the average person justifying a thousand dollar price tag, but it is being compared to netbooks as well as tablets to try and occupy both areas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The price for this surface is going to be $999. Its Microsoft&#8217;s hail mary into the tablet world.I don&#8217;t see the average person justifying a thousand dollar price tag, but it is being compared to netbooks as well as tablets to try and occupy both areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Offringa</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/19/microsoft-surface-isnt-a-threat-to-google-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1885389</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Offringa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 00:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re-read my post. Long term this does pose a threat to Google, but not right now. I don&#039;t think Google is going after the high end right now. It doesn&#039;t make sense unless they can get better apps to compete with Apple and MS, Jellybean has a significantly better tablet UI, and Google has better media deals. Until then, I think they&#039;ll focus on the low end. Without those improvements they&#039;ll continue to lose to the iPad. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re-read my post. Long term this does pose a threat to Google, but not right now. I don&#8217;t think Google is going after the high end right now. It doesn&#8217;t make sense unless they can get better apps to compete with Apple and MS, Jellybean has a significantly better tablet UI, and Google has better media deals. Until then, I think they&#8217;ll focus on the low end. Without those improvements they&#8217;ll continue to lose to the iPad. </p>
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		<title>By: Ron Offringa</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/19/microsoft-surface-isnt-a-threat-to-google-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1885386</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Offringa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 00:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Objectivity doesn&#039;t exist, but yes, I do think it&#039;s more of a threat. Android tablets aren&#039;t competitive right now. Whatever Microsoft does won&#039;t change the fact that Android needs a better tablet OS, more apps, and better content deals/distribution to succeed against the iPad. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Objectivity doesn&#8217;t exist, but yes, I do think it&#8217;s more of a threat. Android tablets aren&#8217;t competitive right now. Whatever Microsoft does won&#8217;t change the fact that Android needs a better tablet OS, more apps, and better content deals/distribution to succeed against the iPad. </p>
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		<title>By: John Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/19/microsoft-surface-isnt-a-threat-to-google-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1881828</link>
		<dc:creator>John Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You actually think this is a threat more to the iPad than Android tablets? Come on, be objective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You actually think this is a threat more to the iPad than Android tablets? Come on, be objective.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Some Dude</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/19/microsoft-surface-isnt-a-threat-to-google-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1877498</link>
		<dc:creator>Just Some Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[if I remember the E3 announcement on the Xbox thing, you will be able to do the second screen thing on IOS and Android as well. I think Microsoft has the right idea when dealing with the Xbox. Let as many people intergrate as possible to sell more Xboxes. :) It&#039;s cool I can use the new glass technologu coming out without having to actually buy new hardware.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if I remember the E3 announcement on the Xbox thing, you will be able to do the second screen thing on IOS and Android as well. I think Microsoft has the right idea when dealing with the Xbox. Let as many people intergrate as possible to sell more Xboxes. <img src='http://www.droid-life.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  It&#8217;s cool I can use the new glass technologu coming out without having to actually buy new hardware.</p>
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		<title>By: David Du Buron</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/19/microsoft-surface-isnt-a-threat-to-google-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1877451</link>
		<dc:creator>David Du Buron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a future buyer of a tablet, I have to say I think there is a threat. No matter how awesome iOS and Android get, they are still &quot;dumbed down&quot; operating systems by comparison to Windows and MacOS. The thought of getting something that is a real computer to carry around for work and home as opposed to what is effectively a toy (let&#039;s face it, everyone puts down their Android Tab or iPad when they get back to their desk) is extremely appealing.

For just $400, where I was looking more at a Transformer Prime before, the Surface is a great cheap option as well as the must functional option.

Lastly, if the mobile war has taught us nothing, we know developers make the OS. Windows 8, if it really does support out of the box all past Windows 7 software, then we know who will come out of top in terms of software/apps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a future buyer of a tablet, I have to say I think there is a threat. No matter how awesome iOS and Android get, they are still &#8220;dumbed down&#8221; operating systems by comparison to Windows and MacOS. The thought of getting something that is a real computer to carry around for work and home as opposed to what is effectively a toy (let&#8217;s face it, everyone puts down their Android Tab or iPad when they get back to their desk) is extremely appealing.</p>
<p>For just $400, where I was looking more at a Transformer Prime before, the Surface is a great cheap option as well as the must functional option.</p>
<p>Lastly, if the mobile war has taught us nothing, we know developers make the OS. Windows 8, if it really does support out of the box all past Windows 7 software, then we know who will come out of top in terms of software/apps.</p>
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		<title>By: angermeans</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/19/microsoft-surface-isnt-a-threat-to-google-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1876996</link>
		<dc:creator>angermeans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 04:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really enjoy reading your posts Ron. Keep em coming. With that said doesn&#039;t Google competing for the low end mean it is losing. I mean I admire MS for actually taking on the iPad and simply going for low end does not mean you win it means you lose. No one (outside of us of course, I will be picking up the Nexus tablet for sure) will be bending over backwards to pick this tablet up. Apple has simply priced every other manufacturer right out of the market and there is no end in sight of the iPads dominance. 


The reason Android has failed as of yet is the same reason that Android will start to pinnacle out and start either keeping up with its market share or slowly losing it (lets face it we all knew they couldnt keep this up forever). What I mean is it isn&#039;t Google at all that is causing this it is the Android OEMs that care for nothing more than selling its current phone to as many people as possible. We are seeing these companies not respect its customer base and the original 2 year plans that many early android adopters are now coming up and after 2 years of bugs on Motorola phones, no real competitive updates for 8-12 months (if at all), and promised features that never came and the general public are looking elsewhere. Google really needs to tighten the reigns and as excited as I am for this Nexus tablet means nothing in the whole battle for market dominance. You cant compete on the low end and call it good and every PC vendor in the known world has seen this since the release of the iPad. This is only the beginning of Apple&#039;s dominance and it is no longer just for a small niche market of tablet owner, but more of a post PC era where people are buying these instead of grabbing laptops. The world is dieing for a company to innovate and stop waiting for Apple to make a move and then try and beat it. I just dont understand why Google wont give it some time and find the right equation for eating into the iPads market share. They did it with phones and it wasn&#039;t overnight. If they had just given up and decided to only compete in the low end we would all not be sitting here. What I am getting at (sorry if this doesnt read well I just got off 14 hrs of work and school) is that Google&#039;s Android is far from ok when deciding not to compete and ignore the market leader all together and a year of overpriced tablets (ahem Motorola with both its Xoom and Xyboard), promised features that came way to late (again Motorola&#039;s tablets especially its Xoom), no real deals from wireless companies and instead only offering WiFi options (all of the ASUS Transformer line), features that dont work at all (again ASUS and its WiFi problems and dongles), very slow updates (all of the OEMs esp Moto and Sammy), and worst of all an unfinished product that should never have been released when it was (all Honeycomb tablets including the OS). This doesnt cut it we need a polished product and we need not ignore the market leaders and instead deliver a cheap product to compete. 


This whole thing scares me to death as it really looks that in a year or less we wont have any high end Android tablets in the market and we cant rely alone on MS to compete and keep Apple innovating (look at the Zune for hells sakes). Something to think about and this is coming from an Android enthusiast that is frusterated at what Android has become and these OEMs are ruining a good thing. Its a joke. I think the One X is a start and so is the rumor of the 5 Nexus phones (although I feel for some reason all we will see if unlocked  Motorola Blur and Samsung Touchwiz devices with the Nexus name being washed into nothing).Google needs to do something big. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoy reading your posts Ron. Keep em coming. With that said doesn&#8217;t Google competing for the low end mean it is losing. I mean I admire MS for actually taking on the iPad and simply going for low end does not mean you win it means you lose. No one (outside of us of course, I will be picking up the Nexus tablet for sure) will be bending over backwards to pick this tablet up. Apple has simply priced every other manufacturer right out of the market and there is no end in sight of the iPads dominance. </p>
<p>The reason Android has failed as of yet is the same reason that Android will start to pinnacle out and start either keeping up with its market share or slowly losing it (lets face it we all knew they couldnt keep this up forever). What I mean is it isn&#8217;t Google at all that is causing this it is the Android OEMs that care for nothing more than selling its current phone to as many people as possible. We are seeing these companies not respect its customer base and the original 2 year plans that many early android adopters are now coming up and after 2 years of bugs on Motorola phones, no real competitive updates for 8-12 months (if at all), and promised features that never came and the general public are looking elsewhere. Google really needs to tighten the reigns and as excited as I am for this Nexus tablet means nothing in the whole battle for market dominance. You cant compete on the low end and call it good and every PC vendor in the known world has seen this since the release of the iPad. This is only the beginning of Apple&#8217;s dominance and it is no longer just for a small niche market of tablet owner, but more of a post PC era where people are buying these instead of grabbing laptops. The world is dieing for a company to innovate and stop waiting for Apple to make a move and then try and beat it. I just dont understand why Google wont give it some time and find the right equation for eating into the iPads market share. They did it with phones and it wasn&#8217;t overnight. If they had just given up and decided to only compete in the low end we would all not be sitting here. What I am getting at (sorry if this doesnt read well I just got off 14 hrs of work and school) is that Google&#8217;s Android is far from ok when deciding not to compete and ignore the market leader all together and a year of overpriced tablets (ahem Motorola with both its Xoom and Xyboard), promised features that came way to late (again Motorola&#8217;s tablets especially its Xoom), no real deals from wireless companies and instead only offering WiFi options (all of the ASUS Transformer line), features that dont work at all (again ASUS and its WiFi problems and dongles), very slow updates (all of the OEMs esp Moto and Sammy), and worst of all an unfinished product that should never have been released when it was (all Honeycomb tablets including the OS). This doesnt cut it we need a polished product and we need not ignore the market leaders and instead deliver a cheap product to compete. </p>
<p>This whole thing scares me to death as it really looks that in a year or less we wont have any high end Android tablets in the market and we cant rely alone on MS to compete and keep Apple innovating (look at the Zune for hells sakes). Something to think about and this is coming from an Android enthusiast that is frusterated at what Android has become and these OEMs are ruining a good thing. Its a joke. I think the One X is a start and so is the rumor of the 5 Nexus phones (although I feel for some reason all we will see if unlocked  Motorola Blur and Samsung Touchwiz devices with the Nexus name being washed into nothing).Google needs to do something big. </p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/19/microsoft-surface-isnt-a-threat-to-google-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1876950</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 03:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this will be way better than Android tablets!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this will be way better than Android tablets!</p>
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		<title>By: Droid4LifeDawg</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/19/microsoft-surface-isnt-a-threat-to-google-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1876773</link>
		<dc:creator>Droid4LifeDawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice Right-up, I personally don&#039;t see Microsoft failing with this at all. I see this as A PC lover&#039;s dream. Finally there is a Tablet/PC we have been waiting forever for that. An IPad Killer (Who really cares) have we forgotten &quot;I&#039;m a PC and I&#039;m a Mac&quot; there will always be those that love both OS and still coexist. I&#039;m just glad that there is now going to be a Tablet/PC, I Love Android, but I was in Love with Windows long before Android came around.


And you&#039;re right, Google has nothing to worry about this Tablet/PC the Android Tablets seemed to be to Limited, I want an extension of my Desktop experience and that is where this Tablet/PC will come in very useful. Some of us don&#039;t play games all day, yeah I got the XOOM when it first came out and though they made me wait so long for an upgrade, I was actually bored with it once I realized it was nothing more an Entertainment device.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice Right-up, I personally don&#8217;t see Microsoft failing with this at all. I see this as A PC lover&#8217;s dream. Finally there is a Tablet/PC we have been waiting forever for that. An IPad Killer (Who really cares) have we forgotten &#8220;I&#8217;m a PC and I&#8217;m a Mac&#8221; there will always be those that love both OS and still coexist. I&#8217;m just glad that there is now going to be a Tablet/PC, I Love Android, but I was in Love with Windows long before Android came around.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re right, Google has nothing to worry about this Tablet/PC the Android Tablets seemed to be to Limited, I want an extension of my Desktop experience and that is where this Tablet/PC will come in very useful. Some of us don&#8217;t play games all day, yeah I got the XOOM when it first came out and though they made me wait so long for an upgrade, I was actually bored with it once I realized it was nothing more an Entertainment device.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Buck</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/19/microsoft-surface-isnt-a-threat-to-google-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1876765</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Buck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[no android maker has anything that can compete with the Surface]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no android maker has anything that can compete with the Surface</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Jakiel</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/19/microsoft-surface-isnt-a-threat-to-google-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1876518</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Jakiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But the gap they are bridging with the Surface Pro is already being bridged by the new generation of Ultrabooks.  The Windows RT Surface will be Metro apps only and seeing that there isn&#039;t a huge ecosystem built around it I fail to see where this fits in.  Also note that MS is supposedly releasing Office for iPad as well as Android.  If that is true for the price of MS Office you now have the &quot;Killer App&quot; available for all platforms.  Again I don&#039;t see how either of the Surface tablets will dig into any marketshare at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the gap they are bridging with the Surface Pro is already being bridged by the new generation of Ultrabooks.  The Windows RT Surface will be Metro apps only and seeing that there isn&#8217;t a huge ecosystem built around it I fail to see where this fits in.  Also note that MS is supposedly releasing Office for iPad as well as Android.  If that is true for the price of MS Office you now have the &#8220;Killer App&#8221; available for all platforms.  Again I don&#8217;t see how either of the Surface tablets will dig into any marketshare at all.</p>
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		<title>By: ABerry5</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/19/microsoft-surface-isnt-a-threat-to-google-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1876515</link>
		<dc:creator>ABerry5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[tablets are CURRENTLY not productivity tools, technology and norms change.. and that is what is so damn ironic with apple fans on other blogs talking about how apple will dominate forever... (like they always have right? ;)  things change, and they change quick, and IRONICALLY apple fans should be the first people to understand this ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tablets are CURRENTLY not productivity tools, technology and norms change.. and that is what is so damn ironic with apple fans on other blogs talking about how apple will dominate forever&#8230; (like they always have right? <img src='http://www.droid-life.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   things change, and they change quick, and IRONICALLY apple fans should be the first people to understand this </p>
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		<title>By: ABerry5</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/19/microsoft-surface-isnt-a-threat-to-google-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-1876503</link>
		<dc:creator>ABerry5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am extrememly interested in this tablet.. if performance and battery life are up to par it could actually replace my need for any type of laptop.. I could have this and my phone period.. and with a core i5 wow... I don&#039;t do any high end stuff only possibly infrequent 1080p video editing, and consuming 1080p content, that is it.. no games, but I suspect this would destroy anything currently out there with graphics (I know, we need to see what is no released from other mfg&#039;s) but it will be very interesting


I am also very proud that other Android fans aren&#039;t acting like these apple fans and are actual fans of technology, we just prefer android, it&#039;s so damn ironic they are talking about how microsoft has been dead for 10 years and nothing will bring them back.. because I SWEAR that story sounds eerily familiar ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am extrememly interested in this tablet.. if performance and battery life are up to par it could actually replace my need for any type of laptop.. I could have this and my phone period.. and with a core i5 wow&#8230; I don&#8217;t do any high end stuff only possibly infrequent 1080p video editing, and consuming 1080p content, that is it.. no games, but I suspect this would destroy anything currently out there with graphics (I know, we need to see what is no released from other mfg&#8217;s) but it will be very interesting</p>
<p>I am also very proud that other Android fans aren&#8217;t acting like these apple fans and are actual fans of technology, we just prefer android, it&#8217;s so damn ironic they are talking about how microsoft has been dead for 10 years and nothing will bring them back.. because I SWEAR that story sounds eerily familiar <img src='http://www.droid-life.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mcdonsco</title>
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		<dc:creator>mcdonsco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well that would be the best route for google to take to give them time to come up with something to compete in the higher end, but considering I just paid $599 for a Xyboard I&#039;m not seeing anything worth getting on the low end right now.

 I know there are $100 &amp; $200 droid tabs, but they are A) tough to find/get and B) the specs in terms of power / storage etc just make them glorified eReaders that are (from what I&#039;ve seen) fairly bulky &amp; heavy for an eReader. 

Maybe if manufacturers of droid devices focused on the eReader/Web Surfing aspects more; light and easy to hold for long periods of time with one hand, thin etc and less on &quot;power&quot; then google could survive in that low end market for a long while, but with companies like Asus, Samsung etc all focused on Android &quot;Power&quot; I don&#039;t see them establishing enough of a low end market to take on existing $99 eReaders.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that would be the best route for google to take to give them time to come up with something to compete in the higher end, but considering I just paid $599 for a Xyboard I&#8217;m not seeing anything worth getting on the low end right now.</p>
<p> I know there are $100 &amp; $200 droid tabs, but they are A) tough to find/get and B) the specs in terms of power / storage etc just make them glorified eReaders that are (from what I&#8217;ve seen) fairly bulky &amp; heavy for an eReader. </p>
<p>Maybe if manufacturers of droid devices focused on the eReader/Web Surfing aspects more; light and easy to hold for long periods of time with one hand, thin etc and less on &#8220;power&#8221; then google could survive in that low end market for a long while, but with companies like Asus, Samsung etc all focused on Android &#8220;Power&#8221; I don&#8217;t see them establishing enough of a low end market to take on existing $99 eReaders.</p>
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		<title>By: David Joyal</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Joyal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly. Microsoft is targeting a segment that Apple has largely ignored with the iPad but that Android tablet&#039;s haven&#039;t quite been able to reach. I think they will do it well and will eat into Apple&#039;s market share some.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. Microsoft is targeting a segment that Apple has largely ignored with the iPad but that Android tablet&#8217;s haven&#8217;t quite been able to reach. I think they will do it well and will eat into Apple&#8217;s market share some.</p>
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