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Galaxy Nexus LTE Signal Is More Accurate Than Others, There May Be No Problem

Our friends over at AnandTech did quite the investigation on the reported signal strength issue with the Galaxy Nexus. Users were reporting numerous dropped calls and a weak 4G LTE signal – I for one have only seen higher than 3 bars once. While the signal strength was lacking, I never experienced speeds anywhere close to the level of 3G and continuously averaged 16Mbps down.

After investigating the issue, AnandTech has reported that there isn’t really any issue at all. In fact, the Galaxy Nexus (thanks to ICS) is reporting the accurate number of bars, where as non-ICS 4G LTE phones are showing three to four bars over their true amount. Additionally, when going to Settings > Menu > About Phone > Status on a non-ICS device the reported signal strength is actually 3G and not the 4G signal. In the image above, you can see that the Galaxy Nexus and DROID Charge have a very similar signal strength, however the Charge shows four bars of service while the Nexus is showing the accurate one-bar.

All in all, you should not use the signal bars to judge your 4G LTE strength. You can sleep soundly knowing that the Galaxy Nexus features the same signal strength as all of Verizon’s 4G LTE devices. Remember, Verizon is improving their 4G LTE network each month, it is a work in progress and it will only get better.

Via: AnandTech

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_POSZASKSAYXQBTWVCN4GXXNGEI Scott L

    Like many others, I upgraded from an OG Droid.  So, I can’t speak about the GNex 4g signal compared to another device. But, I can say that I get a great signal at work and at home and haven’t had any trouble with call drops or 4G dropping out.  

  • Anonymous

    There are still issues with no signal and an inability to make phone calls for me

  • Tsteege

    In my area, only the 3G
    system is available.  I have Dropped calls after 5 minutes and Data unavailable most
    of the time unless on WiFi.  My OG Droid had full bars in the same places I am seeing
    these issues.   I hope they get it fixed, but it sounds like I need to
    take it back to Verizon and try another…

    • Anonymous

      This. This is exactly what I had been experiencing with mine. I ditched it and went back to my RAZR which does have the novel feature of completing calls. 

  • Anonymous

    Its weird bc i havent had more than 2 bars in 24 hours but my reception is perfect and have had zero dropped calls.

    • http://an.droid-life.com/ Dan

      Same, I have experienced now problems what-so-ever 

      • Anonymous

        Same here, no issues.  Dropped data once so far in our movie theater here, but that happened with my OG everytime I went there as well. 

        Signals -86 dBm, 3 bars 4G. 

        • http://an.droid-life.com/ Dan

          Your not suppose to have your phone on in the movies anyway :-p

          • Anonymous

            Always on vibrate=P  

  • Bionic

    just use the app “network signal” from the android market.  Tells you all you need to know about every signal your phone gets.

  • Mikehen08

    People keep saying that they cannot hear me while on a call, anyone else have this issue?

    • Tsteege

      That is exactly right Mike.  I can go 5 minutes maybe 10 then, the other person says they cant hear me.  I call back and all is fine for awhile.  Very frustrating.  Otherwise the calls sound amazing.

      • Mikehen08

        Yeah same thing. It has happened to every person I have talked to. I noticed that they couldn’t hear me, then I took the phone away from my ear, the screen came on, then they could hear me again. But it would keep happening until I hung up and called them back. So annoying!

  • http://www.facebook.com/zack.moon Zack Moon

    I am having no problem with mine either I had full 4g in the mall today and never have a loss of service.

  • anexususer

    In the past with my OG Droid I had service in my home and off the beaten path.  Now I have very spotty unreliable service.  I’m guessing that there is more to this story. 

  • Interstellarmind

    …didn’t we all make  fun of i*hone when they fixed signal issues by making it show more bars?

    uh-oh.

  • Jwmphotog

    Why are we all acting like we are comparing our phones while standing right next to each other????
    Dang! “Go to #@!!, Your wrong”,,, “NO YOUR WRONG, I’ve got great signal”, “You piece of $#!%, This reception sucks”. Well, maybe we’re not flaming each other THAT bad, tongue in cheek. But my point. Depends on where you are at doesn’t it? I’m in fringe coverage. Had excellent “Call quality/data streaming” with OG, DX, and even way way back with the Omnia. Same exact road home after work for 30 years now. GN bad “call quality/NO data stream” 

    • Raven

      Yes, I agree.  It also sounds to me like there could really be a percentage of phones with hardware problems so some people might be working just fine and others might be having problems.  Perhaps it is more a problem of poor quality control than poor design.

      • Anonymous

        maybe it has to do with the firat batch being poor and the second batch(rumored to be part of the reason for the pushback) being ok. i picked mine up launch day but the place i bought it recieved their shipment that morning. im one of the lucky ones not having issues.

  • Mule0331

    How did I know that some sort od a spin would be put on this to protect the precious reputation of that brick. Cant wait for ICS to be released on all upcoming devices so we can accurately portray the quality or lack thereof from this Samsung product. I think all the hype is based on the OS not the hardware.

  • xformulax

    I’m calling BS on 3g signal strength too… i dont care what the bars say, but the strength is 10 or 20 dbm better on my droid X

    • Tsteege

      agree!

  • Taxed Todeath

    I don’t give a flying f*** how many bars I have.  I want to be able to make and receive phone calls from inside my house, not standing outside.  Can do that on all my Verizon devices except GN

  • http://www.facebook.com/brian.papo Brian Papo

    In Chicago, I get 4 bars on 4g (-82 dBm)  and average 24 Mbps down, 16 up.  Just tested again, 32 down, 17 up.  Had a Bionic, my call quality is better on the Gnex and haven’t dropped any calls yet and i never saw speeds of 32 Mbps on the Bionic.  My Bionic used to hand off from 4G to 3G and then drop connection all together, my Gnex has been perfect so far. 

    • Anonymous

      damn – that’s insane.

    • http://www.deathbycone.com Jared Kotoff

      even on the lowest 4g possible for me. iv seen DSL or faster speeds.

      4 bars in a store got me 20/15. i was pretty stoked.

    • http://twitter.com/czechonit Curt Sindelar

      4G can be amazingly fast if you get on a cell with few users.  I ran a speed test at 10 AM the other day in my little town and logged over 41 MB down and 18 MB up!  My cable connection at home has never been that fast!
      Normally, with 3 bars of 4G, I get around 9-10 MB down and 11 MB up.

  • Scottholstein Sh

    When you pay nearly $400 for the phone and accesories and give up the only upgrade you have for a great while, it is a big deal. Although, I am not freaking out. I will just wait until the last day in my 14 day period and take the phone back, pay $35, get the rest of my money and my upgrade back. Then, sit and see how the story plays out. If it gets fixed, I will buy another one, if not, I will look else where. My hope is that someone will see that something is in deed wrong for certain users, because something in deed is not right with the signal strength.

  • http://twitter.com/mhallstevenson Mark Stevenson

    I can’t compare this to any other 4G phone,  but my reception has been very good with the GN.  4 bars at work and at home.  As good or better than my OGDroid got.

  • Anonymous

    My Nexus loses 4G at least 5 times a day…my Thunderbolt never lost 4G and I’m still living and working at the same places.  It does seem that the signal is weaker.  My speeds are still fast on 4G, I just lose it more often.

  • Interpol

    Those are camp fire stories, my nexus does have a signal issue. When at my office it drops to 3g while my tbolt had 4g. I hate it cause i cant stream video over 3g it lags big time, makes me wich had my thunderbolt back.

  • Anonymous

    I get LTE just fine – no connection issues, no dropped calls, and I average 13mb/s down, and 11 mb/s up. Incredible.

  • Anonymous

    ZOMG ZOMG – I had one experience and you had another… and my experience was different than that other guys! So if my experience was problematic, then his phone is better than mine, but if mine was better, then his phone sux… and … and… I was in one place and had this signal, and in this other, this other guys phone did this, and my phone did that and they were different… and … and… Google is bad, and Verizon are jerks… and and… nu uh!!

    Jeez… no wonder all the apple sheeple look down their noses at us… Some days the Android community feels like friggin’ Kindergarten Romper Room… what with all the “me too”‘s and “nuh uh!”‘s… 

    wow… calm down… it’s a PHONE… put it down for a few… take a walk… rub your ears or something… 

    • http://twitter.com/BucUte Neil Rasmuson

      Yeah, no kidding. Why would anyone be upset about dropping $300 bones on a phone and getting locked into another 2 years and not having it work right? Spoiled brats.

      • Anonymous

        then take it back… 

    • Anonymous

      Agree.. Sesame Street would be another great analogy. 

    • Cam

      Rub your ears?…

  • http://twitter.com/TCstr8 T.C. Strait

    So is it possible that the Signal Strength is OK, but the transition between 3G and 4G is where things are getting jacked up?  Or maybe something in ICS is causing it to switch to 3G when it shouldn’t and thus dropping calls, etc.?  Just throwing it out there.

  • http://twitter.com/ViolentRotation violent.rotation

    I have to call foul on this as well. My thunderbolt did not experience any of the call quality and network connectivity issues that my nexus is experiencing. it’s quite annoying this great device isn’t doing its job. a smartphone is useless if it can’t handle the one feature we all truly need, a phone!

  • http://twitter.com/KayvonKevlar Kayvon Khaledi

    I dont have 4G where I live but on 3G, I can tell you right now Ive dropped more calls and lost data connections than I did with my TB. Never had it ever tell me no data connection where I live or hang out. I also called Verizon to check if there was an outage or service issues and there was none. For fun, I had my TB right next to me and after about 2 hours, my GNex dropped data and TB was working fine. I didnt check by looking at the bars, I checked by sending out text msgs and opening data apps.

  • Nick Gatto

    So could this just mean that Verizon’s “fix” is adjusting the scale for which the phone displays signal, i.e. where the nexus once showed 1 bar it will now show 3? (let’s hope not, but would you put it past them)

    At the end of the day if there is no set standard display scale, then simply comparing bars from phone to phone is absolutely meaningless. Comparing dBm, as AnandTech has done, is really the only scientific way to compare whats going on.

  • Anonymous

    Not a single dropped call for me. However I do get 1-2 less bars then my Thunderbolt, but I get better 4G speeds. Guess I am lucky? :

  • Daryel Villavicencio

    Samsung radios are just poor.  Seen it in the Epic 4G, seen it in the Nexus S 4G, and see it in the Epic Touch.  

    • Anonymous

      That may have true in the past – but I think this article debunks this theory.

      • PRTaz3

        How does this article debunk the theory that Samsung phones have poor radios?  Both phones in the article are Samsung and both have the same reading which is stated as being correct as 1 bar.  These are just 2 phones with poor radios…both made by Samsung.

        • http://www.deathbycone.com Jared Kotoff

          clearly didnt read the article. he compares the GNex to the Bionic.

          • PRTaz3

            Where do you see Bionic…he says, ”
            In the image above, you can see that the Galaxy Nexus and DROID Charge have a very similar signal strength, however the Charge shows four bars of service while the Nexus is showing the accurate one-bar.”  Maybe I missed Bionic somewhere…please do let me know.

          • http://www.deathbycone.com Jared Kotoff

            im am not talking about the DL article. please go read the full one. he has a picture with the Bionic next to the GNex under the section named “Comparing LTE Signal Strength the Right Way”

          • PRTaz3

            Ok…see what you’re talking about. Didn’t realize that   
            ddevito and yourself were referring to the original article.  Just by reading this one it just seems he’s comparing Samsung phones.  My bad.

        • Anonymous

          Yes – and as I said – THAT MAY HAVE BEEN TRUE IN THE PAST – but doesn’t appear to be an issue with this phone.

          And BTW – my wife has a Charge – absolutely no radio issues with that Samsung either.

    • Anonymous

      Yes add Fascinate and Charge to that list. That’s where I have experienced the “non-fixable” Samsung radio.

  • Jamaicawind

    i must be in a really good place cuz i always get full bars ^_^

  • Anakin2Solo

    What a bunch of crap.  I had a Rezound for a month.  It had a solid 4G signal.  My Nexus drops to 3G all the time and even 1x.  I sit in the same seat in downtown Denver all day.  The reception is worse, period.  This is two bull crap articles today stating this is a myth.  It is no myth.  Perhaps the signal strength is reported the same, but the Nexus takes that same signal and drops to 3G, the Rezound doesn’t.  #NOTAMYTH

    • jnt

      I don’t know about the myth, but I will add that the Rezound has had by far the best radio performance out of all of the latest phones, and I’ve had a Bionic (still have), Razr, and now Gnex along with it.  The Razr was a close second, and the Bionic is now much improved.  But the Rezound would grab/hold 4G in seconds after a bootup as opposed to minutes, and would hold 4G in places these other phones can’t even sniff the signal. 

      • Djenks24

        That was not the kind of performance I had with the 3 Thunderbolts I had and because HTC never fixed the problem I will not be buying another HTC phone. Love my Razr!

    • Bart shaw

      Agreed!  This is clearly a real issue, my wife’s Samsung Fascinate always displays one or more bars than my GN and I always check the dBm and they are consistant, she is usually at -83 and I am at -100. Experiencing dropped calls and other weird static etc… in place I never has before with an phone.  PLEASE FIX VERIZON/GOOGLE or I am returning it.

      • Anonymous

        Did you read the article? Your example is exactly what they explain.

  • MattCrouse0509

    Can anyone explain a data speed difference if the signal is the same?  I haven’t purchased the phone yet but stopped in at two verizon stores with great 4g signal on my Tbolt and at both stores I was pulling 14-16 Mbps while both of the Nexus phones averaged 7-8 Mbps.  I am by no means any type of pro but something seems off to me.

  • Anonymous

    I read the article this morning and he is making some pretty big assumptions.  One big thing is, unless he has a spectrum analyzer programmed to scan for LTE and CDMA, he can not go off of just the readings that the phone’s are reporting.  He talks technical words and metrics yet I don’t see any empirical data that he used besides a few graphs.  Plus, he is reporting wherever he is sitting and not moving around like others are.  All you have to do is read the forums were people are complaining that they used to connect to 4g where now they do not.  There could be a few reasons for this but 2 are the simplest to look at.  One could be that the radio software is looking for the strongest signal and having 3g override the 4g connection.  The other would be more concerning if the radio antennas were sized incorrectly during the manufacturing process, which would be game over.  Best case is a software patch to correct the signal issues with hand-off but with people having dropped calls, it would be the latter….

    Also, the whole “modem being faster” thing…..you are only as good as the weakest link.  Doesn’t matter if you get 1Gbit over the air, if the LAN connection only supports 5Mbit, that is all the faster you download.

  • ww

    So, other than the fact that we paid a premium price for an LTE phone and for many of us, Verizons coverage maps show that LTE coverage is available in our areas, there is no problem? Seriously?

  • http://twitter.com/Defenestratus Defenestratus

    My Nexus gets the same bars as my Xoom 4G LTE does.

    Its identical everywhere the two travel together.

    • http://twitter.com/Defenestratus Defenestratus

      I also have never had a dropped call.

      • Anonymous

        I want your Nexus. I hope mine will be like that.

  • Anonymous

    I thought the bars had nothing to do with strength of data service? At least that’s what I was reading all the time with my Thunderbolt. Is it just a Thunderbolt/HTC thing, or were all the people banging on the “the bars are for voice, not data, strength” idiots?

  • Scottholstein Sh

    There is an issue. I love the build, the open phone, etc… I have waited for the opportunity to have another device like the OG in terms of customization. But when my DX2 gets better reception than the GNex, something is up. I don’t care what the db, signal bars, or any site says…I have both phones here side by side, and the DX2 kicks GNex butt in my neck of the woods (no 4g…3g only). That should not be the case. I have set the device to CDMA only…all the tricks I have read in the last 24 hours. I have rolled the device back to 4.0.1 with no help there. Something is wrong for a specific set of users, and unfortunately, I am one of them.

  • Gah03s

    My main issue is the switch for 4G to 3G takes way to long IMO. Other than that I’m fine with my signal.

  • http://twitter.com/MeineckeGuy Justin Meinecke

    Yeah I’m one of the many who have consistently had 1-2 bars of 3G where I live, if that. It would also frequently turn gray, then eventually back to blue. However after a few days of having the phone I’m now getting a pretty consistent 3 bars of 3G. Wish I lived in a 4G area :(

  • nkd

    Really? Tell that to my droid razr. That never drops 4g at my house and my nexus dropped three times last night and couldnt fall back. I am in very good coverage area too. I have hanfs on experience and anandtech can say what they want. You go from 0% time without signal to 10% , there is a problem.

  • Anonymous

    3-4 Bars in Chicago, but I’m going out to the boonies for Christmas. I don’t see any problems so far though. 

  • Anonymous

    I’d believe this as my nexus is faster and has better reception with less bars than my Thunderbolt.

  • http://twitter.com/Travilaaa Travis Sorenson

    I get 4 bars regularly on my Nexus and I get about 12-13Mb when I have that connection.

  • http://www.facebook.com/aaron.lasley Aaron Lasley

    While most of this is pretty techy and cool stuff and possibly true.  The average cell phone user looks at his phone and says “oh, I have 1 bar right now”.  Not -107dBm and 4asu right now.  People want to see they have good service/signal.  Just my opinion.  I experience the “low bars” with rare “full bar” service but am yet to lose service, drop calls, etc.  

    • http://www.facebook.com/aaron.lasley Aaron Lasley

      And note I have a VZW tower on my work site and have a bionic with full bars so it’s not a geographical area with poor or weak signal.

  • Ryan

    I was wondering that. I figured the signal was being reported from the 4G radio which only affects downloads when on 4G, and even with low signal I’ve gotten 8-10Mbps just fine. Might be nice to have a hack that shows both the 4G and 3G signal strengths since they’re on separate radios.

    • http://www.deathbycone.com Jared Kotoff

      same even with my lowest signal of 4g its still as fast as my DSL. and of course it only goes up from there :D

    • Anonymous

      Simply put your phone in 3G only, then test it against the dBm of another phone with 3G only.  Nexus is consistently lower, by quite a bit.

  • http://twitter.com/CallOnColin Colin Huber

    Just what I thought. Can’t go off the visual.

  • Anonymous

    Dan good job on posting this

  • http://twitter.com/IInsley Isaac Insley

    so whats the range of dBm translated from 0 – 4 bars?

    • Guest

      There’s no standard for it. Every phone manufacturer goes by their own thing. Thats why some phones show more bars than others even when the dBm is the same.

      Generally speaking 84ish and under is full bars for most phones.

  • CanThinkForMyself

    That’s why people are having data problems and dropped calls right? derp

  • mons

    So is the radio just crap?

    One of my coworkers has a razr.  We all usually have kind of poor reception at our desks, but I’ve never had it dropped.  Today, first day at work with the GN, and I don’t even always have 3G at my desk.

    • mons

      Meant to add – he had good signal while I had zero.  It did come back pretty shortly though.

    • http://twitter.com/IInsley Isaac Insley

      same situation

    • Anonymous

      I have a RAZR and unfortunately, the thing is prone to horrendous data drops when on the edge of a 4G area…I’ll lose 3G and 4G for 10 minutes at a time.  Hopefully the incoming update solves that.

    • Anonymous

      Read the article. It is, in fact, not crap.

      • mons

        I was standing right next to a coworker with a Razr, and I had zero data connection in our office, which has never happened with my Droid X.  It picked signal back up after a few dozen agonizingly (a few of our other coworkers were there checking out the Nexus) long seconds, but he had no problems. 

        Not to mention the battery life problem…

        • Anonymous

          There is a handoff issue which would explain the signal picking up later. The battery “issue” isn’t really an issue, it’s just a consequence of the large SAMOLED. Check out the battery use stats.

          I still get 12hrs consistently with regular use(on the stock battery). Brought a wall charger into work and it’s not an issue at all.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for bringing this article to light, it’s been the biggest misconception!  I’m just curious as to what Verizon has “found” or “noticed.”

    • http://twitter.com/adammengel Adam

      They “found” a bunch of emails from customers and had to say something to chill people out.

      • Anonymous

        Truth. The writer of that article makes a good point in wondering whether or not Google will modify the way that signal strength is displayed, shifting back to a more inaccurate representation. I hope not, but I suppose it doesn’t matter in the end considering the actual dBm readings behind it all.

        • Anonymous

          I hope not. -108dbm should only be 1 bar. I’ve been in 4g areas showing full bars more than once. Seattle is a good area for LTE.

          By the way, I took this earlier today. In my office, where my DX would routinely get 2-3 bars on 3g.

          http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7191809/Screenshot_2011-12-20-07-51-15.png

          • Rader023

            Blocked at work. What does it show?

          • Anonymous

            -83dBm with 3 bars.

    • Anonymous

      I agree. The handoff issue looks to be addressed in the 4.0.3 update. So far I’ve only experience it once but looks like it wont be an issue soon.

      Read over the article from the last post, really good read. Great to have the proof and reassurance that I’m not crazy or ignorant of the rumored problems.

    • Anonymous

      One person says something and it is “the biggest misconception!”  I think not, and so do the thousands of others that are having issues with dropped calls or not being able to connect to 4g when they used to.  The issue with the phones is not the display of signal strength, it is the fact that the signal is no longer even connecting.  There is an issue and now the biggest question is what…..software/firmware, bad radios, manufacturing issues, etc.

      • Anonymous

        Well do you suppose it’s the hand-off issue that’s been addressed in 4.0.3, or are you certain that it is not linked to hand-off and it involves signal continuity??

        • Anonymous

          Honestly not sure, don’t work for Verizon or Sammy.  But, as I said in another post, could be 2 things.  One could be a hand-off issue that the radio is picking the stronger of the 2 signals, i.e. 3g in some cases.  The more concerning problem could be that the antennas are sized incorrectly causing the signal to not be received properly.  Antennas need to be sized according to the wavelength they are receiving and even a few mm off could cause a problem.  Lets just hope it is a software fix for hand-off.  

          Or people could just be holding the phone wrong…LOL :D

          • Anonymous

            Huge ::facepalm:: if we had another “Antennagate” on our hands =P

  • http://twitter.com/BucUte Neil Rasmuson

    Nah, I’m calling BS to that. There is a problem.  This rception is definitely lower quality than the Rezound. At work my phone didn’t drop to 3G at all on the Rezound. It does it constantly with the Galaxy Nexus.

    • Anonymous

      There MAY be a problem on certain handset but not all. You may be an exception but not the rule.

    • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

      AnandTech had not investigated the 3G connectivity in depth. They were only saying the LTE signal strength is on par with other 4G phones.

      • Anonymous

        EXACTLY

      • Anonymous

        Thank you!
        I have no issues with LTE (and no basis for comparison).
        My issues are with a weak WiFi connection on both 2.4 & 5 Ghz and a weak voice connection.

    • Anonymous

      I agree, and on top of all this why are we having dropped calls left and right? Is Samsung radio that bad? After 300 million devices sold, no one complained about this? I think there is still an issue regardless of this post. 

      • Anonymous

        Haven’t dropped a single call. Data speeds better than my Bionic. There is always room for improvement though. Call clarity was marginally better on my Bionic.

        • Anonymous

          I’m not having connection issues per say, but I can tell you that call quality is tinny, and garbled. 

          I’m not going to return the device, as I like everything else about it. I know Google/Samsung/Verizon has to step up to the plate and fix the problem. 

          • Anonymous

            Good luck with that. I asked Verizon to fix my Samsung Fascinate and they told me that they couldn’t fix it…and try getting ahold of Samsung…forget about it. They aren’t exactly kings of customer service. 

          • Anonymous

            I would go with the razr of rezound if i were you:)

          • Anonymous

            Razr for sure sure. 

          • Anonymous

            you will not go wrong picking up the razr.

          • Anonymous

            I have another line free for upgrade, so it might be the Razr Maxx…looking forward to that. 

          • http://www.facebook.com/borgey401 Andrew Borges

            so you’re going to downgrade to some crap motorola device from a nexus? that makes total sense… lets “upgrade” to motorolas 529351763289 device this year when they can’t even put out solid firmware for any of them. don’t get me wrong to each their own, it’s your $ and your account but it just does not make sense to do so. we all know moto puts out loads of devices each year with the next one only having features that the previous should have and then they make a huge deal about how much better it is. not to mention they completely slaughter android by throwing that god awful skin on top of it. google should limit the amount of devices they allow their licensed applications to go on (since android is obviously open sourced) because it’s just getting insane at this point. i don’t understand why they don’t just put all their ideas together and come up with 3-4 awesome devices a year instead of 54859013510656187 half arssed ones a year. 

          • S Bosworth

            Wow sounds like someone is trying to bash another device just to justify their purchase and use of a different one. Yous sound like an Apple fanboi.

            No wonder Android users are considered pretentious, tech snobs that never get laid. 

          • Mark Christian

            You could replace every instance of Motorola and substitute Samsung in it’s place.  The accuracy of the paragraph would not change in the slightest.
            All manufacturers are releasing 1234902345873 phones this year and not supporting them and the next phone has what the old phone should have, etc.

          • Anonymous

            That will be an awesome device :)

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          • Trooper

            Don’t count on it man.

        • Anonymous

          Ive had the exact opposite as you. I can barely stream a damn HD video on the Galaxy Nexus. On my bumfck Bionic I could tether and stream netflix, play ps3, and watch pron.

        • Anonymous

          Build quality, call quality and radios moto  rules those departments.

          • Billyrouth2000

            Moto also rules the buggy software department.

          • Anonymous

            It seems that moto right now has the best skin since ICS is not optimize as of yet.

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          • Tim

            “Not optimize(d)” what are you even trying to elude to with that? You honestly believe that moto-blur/crap is optimizing your android experience?

          • Anonymous

            GB 2.3.5 on the razr and 2.3.4 on the bionic and droid 3 is awesome. ICS may be the best skin on due time, but not right now. I can imagine how nice Moto’s ICS is going to be :)

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          • LionStone

            What is your signal strength?

          • Anonymous

            I have the best signal strength 4 bars all the time.

          • LionStone

            No sir, your dBm please.

          • Anonymous

            -93 right now yours?

          • LionStone

            -58 dBm… stock TB ;)

          • Anonymous

            i have -57 saw the wrong number, inside my apartment i have 3 bars sometimes 4.

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          • Tim

            Right, I bet you saw the wrong number… AngelFace, you are such a bias fanboy.

          • Guest

            he’s a worthless piece of shitt faggitt loser!!

          • Anonymous

            I dont have to prove anything, but i can send you screen shot if you would like :)The razor is the best there is period. You can hate all you want, but that is not going to change the fact that moto is the king of technology.

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            just for fun…

          • Anonymous

            HTC are better than Samsung when it comes to signals

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          • Anonymous

            Build quality? Perhaps the materials used, but certainly not the fit and finish or quality testing. I have returned far to many Motorola phones because of manufacturing materials under the glass or other material defects. Since the OG Droid I have only seen the quality of Motorola smartphones decline.

          • Anonymous

            You lost this argument. Moto are known for their build quality, radios and good sound quality. Moto is the best manufacturer.

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      • Anonymous

        People from other carriers do not complain as much as verizon customers, that is why they have not complained about the radios issues on the gs2.

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      • Omar Ibrahim

        well ppl are saying its good and bad so there might be a bad batch radios though idk if its true or not its just a might be atm to me.

      • Genius

        My GN hasn’t dropped any calls and the clarity is noticeably better than my DX. That said, there is a 4-5 mile gap during my drive to work that I cannot get any data stream for internet, despite being able to use the phone and showing 3g bars. And I’ve had the same drive to work for 6 years without issue with the OGD and DX. 

    • Anonymous

      Wait? You dare to write something negative about the Galaxy Nexus! Prepare to be flagged!

      • Anonymous

        You flagging bro?

        • Anonymous

          u don’t understand sarcasm bro?

          • Anonymous

            I understood your sarcasm.. Do you understand that my post was sarcasm to your sarcastic remark? You sensitive today bro?

          • Guest

            he’s a worthless piece of shitt loser!!

          • Anonymous

            how do you not understand your own version of spam??  -_^

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      • Anonymous

        Tell me about it, this thing is damn near untouchable here. One complaint and flagged away. I’m sorry my standards don’t conform to everyone else’s.

        • Anonymous

          Yeah, sorry we’re not all Galaxy Nexus sheep bowing at the bezel of the all omniscient smartphone.

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    • woctaog

      Agreed, there is definitely a problem.  My friend and his GF both bought GNexes, and they can stand right next to each other and her phone will show 1 bar and his will show 4.  I think its a problem only on some phones, but there definitely is a problem.

    • Anonymous

      Definitely a problem with some phones. Picked one up Thursday, was randomly losing data + voice every 15 minutes, about 5 times an hour. Returned it the next day for a brand new one: Hasn’t dropped data OR voice once. Getting better signal as well.

      Just because some work, does not necessarily mean all work.

      • Luis

        So are you saying Samsung is shipping devices with a higher than normal rate of being defective?

        • Anonymous

          Why is everyone so eager to bash this phone? We are not the enemy, the iSheep are!

      • http://twitter.com/REALscodoublet Scott Pikula

        This was my exact experience. My first phone ended up dropping data on and off all day long and wouldn’t let me text out but I could call and receive texts. Took it back and got it replaced and the new one has been pretty great. The bars appear lower than normal but I’m not losing any service or having connection issues. Speed is good too for 3G. No 4G in my area yet.

    • Mark Christian

      It was my understanding that the signal strength of LTE has absolutely nothing to do with the number of bars you have.  Bars is strictly for your phone signal and 3G connectivity and because LTE operates on an entirely different band, it does not follow the phone signal bars for it’s strength.
      This was also confirmed in that, on my Droid Charge, I was able to stay connected to 4G and browse the internet, speedtest, etc; yet, I had no bars and I was unable to make phone calls.

    • Paul

      Ya, the bars mean nothing to me. The problem is my OG droid can get slow 3G speeds at work but the Nexus gets 1x or 3G with 1x speeds.

    • Anonymous

      Nexus failed many of the geeks on here. They just do not want to admit it.

      • John

        i’m loving it. best phone i’ve ever had. needs improvements here n there (like any phone), but overall it spanks anything i’ve used & anything you have

        :)

        • Anonymous

          You have not played with the king of all devices the razr :)

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          • Tim

            Honestly, you have the lowest standards of any droid-life follower.

          • Guest

            he is!!! he is a worthless piece of shitt dick sucking faggitt loser!!

          • Anonymous

            You are a loser and you are suffering like a little girl. Get over it already. You have your facts i have mines period. Nexus failed all of you, that is why all of you are sensitive towards my facts.

          • Esmccarty09

            I played with the razr its a piece of shitt compared to the nexus its bren out for about a month and they already have the droid 4 5 6 and 7 coming out in the next two month not to mention the maxx. I got rid of the droid 3 get the GN and let me tell you its not even a comparison even putting the fact that the droid was only 3g. This phone is just so much smoother and you just feel like a badass using it. I havent experienced the radio issue and i honestly believe that it just affects certain phones. I returned countless numbers of og droids and 3 droid 3’s ive never experienced such shittyy build quality as verizon and sure the GN doesnt feel like a brick in your hand that you could kill someone with by throwing it at them but it feels fluent with the curvature of your hand and is freakin light . So yeah angel you suck so does motorola. Never again will i purchase a phone from them.

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    • Mitch

      Wow, an article full of denial. Nice Droid-Life!

      • David Russell

        Yeah I agree, if the article was true then my Bionic would be capable of >20Mbps 4G download speeds with -2 bars.

        • http://www.facebook.com/TJHRULZ tjhrulz

          No it would not, a Gnex yes. Bars are inaccurate on all other android phones (You either have service or you dont for most)

          • http://www.facebook.com/joshua.porrata Joshua Porrata

            I have only been seeing 1 or 2 bars since I got it. That said I am still getting 10+ mbps on one bar. Nothing is slow and I have not dropped a single call. I would rather see the true level and dont want the update. 

    • Anonymous

      while Brian pondered isotropy, i was at JCpenney and my wife’s rezound was rockin 12 4g down and my nexus was chokin .16 on 3g. not to mention i could get no, none, zippo GPS signal on my gnexus while the rezound had 6 sats in sight… :)

    • http://twitter.com/kderentz Kristopher Derentz

      I had the Droid Charge before my GN, and it was a total pile. However with that said it definitely had WAY BETTER 4G connection then my GN. Im not looking at bars for comparison Im just talking from every day use in my office, home and usual hang outs. Also Im in Vegas which is one of Verizon’s LARGEST 4G LTE coverage cities.

      • Mark Christian

        Ouch… That’s gotta hurt.  I had the pile known as the DC, when Verizon finally admitted there was an issue I was unable to make a phone call without becoming deafened by the random static in calls.  I was really tempted to hold out and get a GN, but decided to go with a Motorola.  I’m not one of the fanbois or any of that crap, but all my Motorola phones have done 1 thing VERY well and that’s making a phone call.  I’ve tried all the manufacturers and I’ve always been happiest with the Motorola phones I’ve used.
        Regardless, I wish you the best of luck and hope that it’s just a matter of software updates. I will always have a soft spot for fellow DC owners. It really killed my confidence in Samsung’s phone line.

    • http://twitter.com/Scotty_Braun Scotty Braun

      Theres 100% a problem. My download speeds are a 1/4 of what they are on my droid charge. 3G though, I haven’t been in 4g yet. So its def an issue for myself, an my areas

    • Tsmall

      I agree with BS…. There is most definitely a problem.   I get no data in areas where my old OG droid and others continuously connect.   I have been setting in the same office with three others with Android phones:  OG Droid, Droid 3 and incredible all had 20+ more db than me.  

      • Tsmall

        Meant to say less db than me….   I am a little disappointed that this article was posted.   Large fan of Droid-Life but the article is definitely sub par

    • Joe

      Same thing here, I returned my rented Rezound and the signal is definitely weaker at work and 4G speeds noticeably slower, although still very fast as compared to 3G.  At home, even in my basement I had a good 4G signal and now it drops to 3G all the time.

    • Clifton Manning

      My GN is definitely having problems with its 4GLTE, my wife’s TBolt is getting much faster download speeds than my nexus WTF?!… this is NOT a non-issue, this is a BS article full of denial… I still love my GN despite all this but this is a serious issue

    • http://twitter.com/Scotty_Braun Scotty Braun

      this is total BS.. I have the same Droid Charge and Nexus side by side.. Nexus -89dbm Charge -73dbm.  so obviously that study isn’t accurate. I tried this at my house and work, the numbers were way off each time. Both devices are stock, 3G area only, LTE turned off…

      • Ken M

        The article is only about LTE signal strength.

        If there is in fact a problem with its 3G reception, it wasn’t under the scope of the article.

    • Ken M

      There’s a difference between signal strength and the cutoff point where a phone will switch bands.  Your complaint is about the GN’s cutoff point, which seems relatively high or at least unstable.

      It’s not the same thing as the actual signal strength.  The two devices could have the exact same signal strength, but the Bionic has better tolerance so it doesn’t drop as frequently.

      And everyone below who has mentioned bars is an idiot.  Bars aren’t useful as a measure of anything, because the carriers and phone makers each arbitrarily set the definition of a bar for each phone.  They’ve just been bumping it up so people think they’re getting better perception, the same way treadmill companies inflate the number of calories burned so people think their product is better.

  • http://twitter.com/muffnman Muffnman

    I’ve had 4 bars in NYC and Northern New Jersey – Can’t say I’ve had any signal issues.