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Apple Taunts The Droid Bionic’s Camera

In case you missed Apple’s announcement, whether it was out of anger or lack of interest, there were a few moments that made me giggle. When Phil Schiller took the stage, he continued the trademarked Apple presentation of slide after slide of propaganda information. When the slide pictured above came up, Mr. Schiller was quick to taunt the competition, mainly the Droid Bionic.

“I don’t know what Droid Bionic customers have to do between taking pictures… like, go get coffee.”

I have to admit, I laughed. Let’s be honest, Motorola doesn’t have the best cameras, no matter how many megapixels they pump into them.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know what iPhone users do while waiting for web pages to load with them being stuck on 3G and all. Take a bunch of pictures I guess.

    • Taco

      LOL

  • Anonymous

    The iPhone 4S certainly has an impressive camera (and, no, not because of the megapixels). They’re allowed to gloat in that regard.

    That said, welcome to the cloud and voice search, Apple. Glad you didn’t miss the boat there.

  • George Rascal

    APPLEGASM – Defined as the state of Engadget editors when all but 2 articles on the frontpage are Apple related

  • Mark

    I have to admit, I was really dissapointed with no 5. I even put a MIUI ROM on my OG Droid to celebrate. But I did get excited about finally having a shortcut on the home screen to the camera. Oh wait, I have always had shortcuts.

  • Anonymous

    droid x has 8 megapixels, the iphone has 5 megapixels

    • jb

      11 comments below and read what I wrote to understand why the number of megapixels doesn’t make a bit of difference on a camera phone.

      • Anonymous

        Yea it does

  • Chris

    I am afraid I am slightly confused…Apparently the old iPhone 4 was 7mbps while 3g goes up to 2mbps. My Droid X next to an iPhone 4 at an apple store is twice as fast. My friends bionic is five times faster than my phone. So apparently according to apple 4g phones are 35mbps. Lets say they’re wrong about the iPhone 4 speed…the iPhone 4S is apparently faster than 4glte???? BS

  • Anonymous

    i will as well, but we have to be realistic. The iphone camara and display quality its the best

  • Not First

    Apple is an a**-h*** company that taunts other companies the sell better and are better in a lot of ways, then sues and blocks their products because they’re afraid of competition. That’s why I won’t be giving them any of my money so that they can take over the world. Ice-Cream Sandwitch and Windows 8 > than iOS 5 and MacOS X Lion

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Bernard/100001785826703 Jeff Bernard

      tell us more about windows 8 that is still in beta and ICS which you’ve never used

  • Anonymous

    the camara on the bionic its better. I dought it i have a bionic as well and i feel no camara cant beat the one on the iphone

  • Anonymous

    htc has a pretty good camaras too but not front facing camara

  • Anonymous

    i agree its iphone the best then sammy and then nokia

    • Anonymous

      The Nokia N8 is unrivaled when it comes to camera phones.  The iPhone’s camera isn’t all that special either, like all things Apple it’s just overhyped.

      • Anonymous

        not on their display.

  • Anonymous

    Guarantee my MIUI CAMERA loads faster.

  • Jer85008

    My first thought when I saw the iPhone 4S was pretty blah except for the Camera. I would LOVE a good camera on my phone (rocking a super crap DX camera now…ugh). I really don’t like carrying a separate camera with me, but the DX cam is so bad it’s almost useless other than in outdoor daylight.

  • Anonymous

    When I was in Maui, I took photos with my DX and Nikon and my buddy used his iPhone 4 only. Guess what? Both phones took PHONE PHOTOS. They pretty much sucked unless you wanted an infinity shot. After we got home I had to burn him a disc from my Nikon. It is a moot point because phone cameras are just that. PHONE CAMERAS!!

  • Kevin

    I mainly use my phone as a camera.  So, this is great news!  No actually, I surf the web and make calls on my phone.  I could care less if my Thunderbolt was 1 megapixel.  Great job apple for releasing the same phone with a dual core processor and a great camera (so 8 months ago).

  • jb

    I find it absolutely hysterical that consumers don’t “get it” when it comes to megapixels on cell phones.

    As far as I know, the size of the sensor in camera phones hasn’t really changed much in years.  All these device manufacturers are doing is reducing the size (and therefore, the effectiveness) of the actual pixel and cramming more of them onto the sensor.  It’s the same premise as population density.  And with pixels, the more you cram onto the sensor, the crappier each pixel becomes because each one receives less light.

    With “real” cameras, the sensors are substantially larger and thus, can handle the increase in megapixels just fine (to a point – but we’re NOWHERE near that the threshold of diminishing returns with DSLR’s).  Quality of the sensor and the tech behind it aside (which is a HUGE difference between phones and cameras), if a DSLR had the same pixel density as a camera phone then DSLR’s would produce images that are almost 100 mp’s!!!  Currently, the average is between 12-18 with some outliers on both ends.

    Additionally, many operating systems on phones automatically resize your pictures anyway which WASTES all those megapixels.

    Personally, I’d be totally happy with a 2 megapixel camera on front and back.  I’d take that and the super fast focusing and recycle time over an 8mp camera phone sensor any day.  Anything more than 2 mp’s on a phone is worthless.  In fact, I doubt that many people realize that a 2 mp image can have dimensions OVER 1600×1200 pixels on a computer screen.  In fact, one of the most common online sizes (800×600) is only .5 mp’s.  So, if we’re all sharing pictures from our phones via text and email and never printing them out, why the hell do we need absolutely terrible 8 mp sensors?

    • http://twitter.com/QSMinSD Q

      Agreed… never understood the massive resolutions on cell phone cameras either..

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Bell/750747288 Nick Bell

        +1.. and I carry my 60d with me 95% of the time anyways so I could really care less about a phones camera. It will be years (if ever) that a phone will take better pictures or video even on the same level as a true camera.. 

        • jb

          I’ve got a 60D too and LOVE IT.  Excellent camera :)

    • trumpet444

      Completely agree. Maybe not a 2 but I’ll take a 3-4mp camera and a great picture. If you need an 8mp+ photo than you shouldn’t be shooting with a phone. 

      • Anonymous

        yeah i never take my phone to a event i want to take pictures i take my Canon.

      • Jcampbell474

        It’s called cropping. I agree with the megapixel debacle, but try cropping a 2 megapixel image. The results will be much better with an 8 megapixel. Oh, but zoom eliminates the need for cropping…doesn’t work that way with the digital zoom on cell phones.

        • jb

          The person you replied to stated “if you need an 8mp+ photo than you shouldn’t be shooting with a phone”.

          I agree.  I’d also add that if you need 8mp+ so you can crop, then snag an actual camera and zoom :)

    • Mike

       Not to mention, no amount of megapencils will save you from the tiny crappy lens that they peer through.

    • Anonymous

      Agree, however I think 5 to 6 MP is ideal. Given the loss of optical zoom, I do need to do some cropping on occasion.  I look forward to the day when they start putting the size of the sensor on the spec sheet and not the number of MPs.

    • Anonymous

      As much as I prefer Android, the cameras on the iphone (at least the iphone 4) are pretty unrivaled. Not sure why we’re dogging Apple here on one of the only things they actually do better than Android.

      • Matthew Morrison

        ummmmm because its fun?

      • Anonymous

        I got an easy fix. Just buy a cheap Canon point and shot if pictures are that important. Until they figure out how to put real optical zoom in cameras with larger sensors call me.

        • Raven

          But, most people concerned with a camera on their phone want to be able to upload their picture to Google+/Facebook/Twitter as soon as they take it.  Try doing that with a cheap point and shoot.  Who I think is missing the boat are the camera makers.  I want a a decent point and shoot with built in bluetooth that automatically sends every picture I take to my phone.  Perhaps even something like the Eye-Fi for bluetooth, then I could just pop it into my nice point and shoot with an 8x zoom Leica lens and snap pics and have them automatically show up on my phone to post if I want.

      • Anonymous

        Seriously?  Samsung phone cameras are waaay better.

    • http://twitter.com/singingsabre Edward Arriola

      We are fast approaching the point of diminishing returns on a DSLR.

      The reason the iPhone 4S’ camera will be so rockin’ is because of the backlit sensor.  My understanding is that the sensor is actually larger, as well, not just packing more megapixels.

      Finally, I’m stoked to have a great camera on my phone.  My Droid X was good, my OG Droid is okay, but if I want to take a decent photo to show off, I usually have to lug around my DSLR.  It’ll be nice to have a large, editable file to play with for my non-professional photos.

    • Dongtacular

      Absolutely, 100% correct, sir.

  • Anonymous

    Everyone has to admit that was pretty good.

  • Anonymous

    They needed to diss the competition somehow I mean their stock dropped 5% guess the investors don’t care how fast you can take pics.

  • stevil

    How long does it take on an iPhone to check all of your social network statuses? Can you do it from your home screen? Oh, that right, you can only put 2005-styled app icons on your home screen…

  • Anonymous

    There is absolutely no denying the iphone cameras have always been superior to any Android offering. However, the very first rumor about the Prime talked about amazing improvements to photo quality, and that is something I am seriously looking forward to, if true.

    • LionStone

      Ill put my TB’s pics up against any iP any day! Even my friends with iP’s say “wow’.

      I’m also interested in the Nexus :-)

    • Anonymous

      That’s very deniable.

      • Anonymous

        In my experience, it’s not when you’re talking about shot-to-shot time, initial startup, and low light performance.

        • Anonymous

          Start and shot to shot times are entirely dependent on the camera software, it has a focus issue with the default software which is what’s causing the delay, we’re talking a couple seconds here though. Let’s stop with the nitpicking huh? It takes about 3 seconds to start up, I just timed it.

          Btw, I installed the MIUI camera app on mine and it takes shots and focuses almost instantly.

  • Kevin

    The new Apple 4S sounds AMAZING – LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-Blacklock/100001633248589 Jason Blacklock

    Its funny because my Moto Photn has a burst pic option. It can take multiple pics in one sec.

    • Anonymous

      My MoPho is coming in the mail on hopefully Thursday, I’m pretty stoked.  Do you like it?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-Blacklock/100001633248589 Jason Blacklock

        Yes!! Its the best phone I have ever had!!! Hardware is top quality and the software is FAST. It so slick, when i see other people using their  phones it feels ahead of the times.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-Blacklock/100001633248589 Jason Blacklock

          It feels like star trek when ever I use it. Its crazy how far portable computing has come.

    • Anonymous

      My MoPho is coming in the mail on hopefully Thursday, I’m pretty stoked.  Do you like it?

  • http://twitter.com/QSMinSD Q

    Hahahah,,,… I have a Bionic and it’s funny because it’s true! 

    Sometimes I dont understand Android phone makers.  Some things are just so glaringly bad.. how do they allow the issues like this to even make it to market?

  • Sk102704

    I’ll take my Bionic over an I*hone anyday!

  • Anonymous

    I take 1-3 pictures a day so thats a total savings of almost 9 seconds, awesome! and 1080p too! 

    ..now that LTE thing, that saves me a few minutes so I can kinda over look that whole “few seconds” thing I think.  

  • Papoose34328

    google should start making their own high quality phones

  • Sk102704

    “I don’t know what I*hone customers have to do between loading webpages on 3g… like, go get coffee.”

  • Anonymous

    ,..awesome.., 
    my best friend’s mom makes $77 an hour on the computer. She has been out of job for 9 months but last month her check was $7487 just working on the computer for a few hours. Read about it here CashSharp.com

    • Anonymous

      My best friend is doing your mom right now, and and she’s paying him $77/hour.

  • http://steamcommunity.com/id/cypherx82 cypherx82

    Apple is always full of shit in their keynotes, nothing new.

  • http://twitter.com/MrBouche MrBouche

    Yeah, my OG droid’s camera is so achingly slow and I get razzed for it. BUT…

    When I need to take many pictures quickly, I also need an optical zoom lens.  There isn’t a single phone out there yet that can take the place of my camera. So it’s a moot point for me. 
    NEXT!

  • http://twitter.com/tittlemanscrest Stephen Parker

    Hahahaha. That’s pretty amusing. 
    Maybe it’s because I’m retarded…but i’m honestly confused how the iPhone 4 and the DX have the same amount of megapixels, yet the DX looks WAY worse. Hmmm

    • Tommy Thompson

      It’s the sensor that was used.

      • Anonymous

        also the 16 month production gap

  • Yiannis

    iPhone = Application toy

  • AaronL805

    If you want a camera….buy a camera.  

  • Anonymous

    I like how Apple picks the things nobody gives a fuc* about to brag about. 

  • Anonymous

    I like how Apple picks the things nobody gives a fuc* about to brag about. 

  • Anonymous

    It was even more comical how they said that the iphone is just as fast as 4g android handsets -_- lol

    • http://www.droid-life.com Tim-o-tato

      That was a lolz

  • Anonymous

    They should have shown a graph indicating how long it takes to change a battery or memory card. ha!

  • Anonymous

    My Droid X has a hard camera button. No shortcut needed….. and yes, they still win.

  • Chris

    Hmmmm. Now who would really care if its a few seconds of a difference? I love how Apple looks at the smaller details than the real details. I mean Bionic does have 4G. OH WAIT! The last iPhone was apparently as fast and the new iPhone has two antennas! My ol’ Droid X was faster! Honestly.

  • Anonymous

    I’d like to know how much of the blame should be attributed to Motorola’s camera hardware and how much should be attributed to Motorola’s camera software/OS ‘enhancements.’

    I’ve taken some good pictures with my Bionic, but I’ve also taken some really terrible pictures.

  • Yiannis

    25 MMbps vs 3 Mbps

    Pwnd

    • Anonymous

      Are you serious? An iPhone never gets over 2MBPS lol.

      • Anonymous

        2MB/s is extremely fast.

        • Anonymous

          :| Not sure if serious…

          • http://smartic.us bryanl

            2MB/s is 16Mb/s. That is actually fairly speedy.

          • Anonymous

            Serious MB/s vs Mb/s

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001458670467 Tyler Cameron

        Not trying to defend it here, but my mom’s iPhone 4 considtently gets speeds of over 3mbps, sometimes over 4… I just hate it when people spread false info :3
        Now if you’re talking about the Verizon iPhone, you may be right, however, on my Incredible and Droid X, I’ve seen speeds of up to 2.7mbps. 
        Course… have no clue why an iPhone user would need that kind of speed… not like they can do anything with it….

        • Anonymous

          What, you bought her one of those AT&T ‘our network sucks so buy this 3G extender to take the load off us’ devices?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Gulyas/709632554 Daniel Gulyas

      That was legitimately hilarious. “We don’t have a 4G radio, but under ideal circumstances, you can get this.”

      No. You can’t. You’re stuck on CDMA or HSPA. They don’t go that fast.

      • Gh

        Its for wifi moron

        • Anonymous

          Ok moron, so they are comparing mobile speeds versus tied to a router speeds?

      • Bullet Tooth Tony

        HSPA+ is faster in the real world today than the current iteration of LTE….. HSPA+ is now up to 84Mbps and has been deployed in certain places around the world at that level – the current LTE that is deployed, in use here in the States by both Verizon and AT&T, is restricted to a max of 61Mbps…. They can upgrade it to go faster, naturally… but……..

        Naturally, this doesn’t apply here, since the 4S uses the old HSPA+14 radios, which always had trouble – and HSPA+21 radios on a 14 network always performed far better…. but I’m just sayin’…. as of this date & time, don’t discount HSPA+, it still has some legs.

  • Anonymous

    I use the time to stare at my Droid X and reflect on life. Honestly though, I will have to admit, Moto cameras leave something to be desired sometimes. In good light thugh, my Droid X takes soke awesome pictures. Still lovin the camera button on my X too!

  • realist2everdoit

    Maybe now they will wake up & put a nice camera on the razr that actually works fast & looks good.

  • http://fabdroid.com Andrew Xie

    Are they taking into account unlocking the phone? In iOS 5, there’s a shortcut directly to the camera from the lockscreen. That could be another way they’re skewing the numbers in their favor.

    I can tell you with CM7 and the camera as a shortcut with the ring unlocker, I can get a picture snapped faster than 2.1s on my Sensation..

  • Tony Cooper

    I just hope all the Android handset manufacturers take note of the quality of the glass in the iPhone…it’s the one aspect of that phone I actually drool over.

    • Soryimslow

      u talking about the broken screen i see on many iphones?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Gulyas/709632554 Daniel Gulyas

        Seriously. I don’t see anything nearly that bad on other handsets.

      • Tyrian

        Gorilla Glass ftw

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Bernard/100001785826703 Jeff Bernard

          it is gorilla glass on the iPhone 4. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/RyanMcCall Ryan McCall

    thats the best they can do diss on the camera time lol? thats really the only thing superior to it…..

    • Tommy Thompson

      I’m sure the camera quality will also be superior to the Bionic and no pentile screen…

      • http://www.facebook.com/RyanMcCall Ryan McCall

        at the end of the day if you wanna take good pics you dont use any type of camera phone and i dont mind the pentile screen at all

        • Anonymous

          i agree, no other device out there can take pics like a digital camara.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, but it’s an iPhone.

  • Mike D

    Why don’t they post the numbers on how long it takes an iPhone to load flash on a website-oh wait.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-Andreae/714213238 Scott Andreae

      ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ty mike d

    • Yankeeny55

      5 years and counting!

    • Mark

      I have to admit this comment made me laugh. I own a bionic and although the camera isn’t it’s strong point its really not that bad.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Travis-Royer/100000358962998 Travis Royer

        no, it’s really that bad. Me thinks it has more to do with the camera app instead of the hardware itself. 3rd party camera apps for the Bionic take clear pictures wicked fast….so yeah :D

        • Jbird1713

          What is a good camera app for the bionic?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Travis-Royer/100000358962998 Travis Royer

            when I had the Bionic (recently exchanged for something else), I used Camera Fun, and just used the ‘Normal’ filter. It took decent photos with that.

    • Geoff

      Sorry, we don’t use technology that suck. We’re less tolerant of incompetencies unlike you. Maybe that’s why you’re using a—oh wait.

      • Benjamin Landwehr

        Oh, yeah?  Have fun with all your limitations on your iPhone.. I mean, you jailbroken(something Apple hates, too) can’t do what we can stock, but oh well right?  iPhone is(well, was, look how it’s popularity is going down now that people are coming to their senses) the fad! 

        Don’t get me wrong, I love the iPhones retina display and camera, but other then that.. all those limits you have.. it’s too much for me.  Yes, iPhone has less bugs I guess, but because nothing is allowed on it accept Apple stuff, really.

    • Anonymous

      the thing is that apple doesnt give a ish about flash so that arguement is irrelevant..there actually is ways to get flash on an iphone

    • Db

      Do people actually go to flash websites?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Bernard/100001785826703 Jeff Bernard

        teenagers who like to jerk off in the bedroom do. you have to realize most android users are under 18 and live in their parent’s basement. the one family computer is in the living room so when they want to jerk off on various porn sites they need a phone that runs flash. the fact that it kills your battery and is a dying technology is irrelevant to them. i understand and if i was in their boat i would probably care as well. 

        • Anonymous

          Hahahhahaha WOW.

          Thanks, but I don’t live with my parents and jerk off in the comfort of any room in my house.  Sometimes more than one within the same jerk. 

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Bernard/100001785826703 Jeff Bernard

            Haha well there is an exception to every rule

          • Anonymous

            In June I got hit by a tornado though, and definitely used my Xoom for taking care of business ninja style while I stayed at my friends apartment.

      • Daniel Maginnis

        ever tried to watch a video on gizmodo on your phone?

    • Jeffsmclean

      lol… that was a high grade BURN… Nice…Very Nice

  • MOTOX

    really? still bet moto’s camera takes better than the iphone 4’s…though i don’t own either…go thunderbolt! :) lol…who am i kidding…can’t wait for the vigor… :0

    • http://www.facebook.com/japultra Jason Nguyen

      Actually, Moto cameras aren’t that great. I’ve gotta give it to Apple on this one. My Droid X’s camera loads up SO SLOW and I’ve always had a major gripe with this. 

      • http://profiles.google.com/jtsurf18 Jason Downing

        AGREED. I need a good camera

      • MOTOX

        i was just saying that because i think android is better…don’t think you found it in there…”still bet…” i owned a droid x…i know…

        • Tommy Thompson

          OS has nothing to do with camera quality. lol

          • Ted

            They are talking about the camera speed not quality and the bionics speed is software related, with an update that will be fixed. You can even download a camera apk from the market and it will take pictures just as fast.

          • Tommy Thompson

            I believe MotoX was talking about quality though. “still bet moto’s camera takes better than the iphone 4″

          • Ted

            well in that case it is true :)

          • Anonymous

            LOL  If you tried explaining that to an Apple user and you’ll get a blank stare.  Way too difficult for them.

          • MOTOX

            dude, its a joke!

      • smeely

        Software issue but get a better software it takes good picture

        • Tony Allen

          Yup, i dont have the issue of slow focusing using other camera apps. It does take good pics though, crisp and clear.

      • http://an.droid-life.com/ Dan

        Motorola is known for their poor sensors in their cameras. 

        • Anonymous

          I do agree, but iphone put even better sensors in their camara

          • Anonymous

            Please list the size, make, and model of the sensors.  This is the comparison I want!

          • Anonymous

            If moto can put iphone sensors or sammy, they will make perfect devices

          • Anonymous

            Software and optics are also important.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001458670467 Tyler Cameron

            I know the iPhone 4 uses an Omnivison 5MP sensor – Its a 5MP version of the sensor you find in the EVO, Incredible, Desire HD, and most other HTC phones which use an 8MP sensor. Yes, the 8MP sensor in all of HTC’s phones is a backside-illuminated sensor. The 8MP sensor in the iPhone 4S is either the same 8MP sensor HTC has been using or the same Sony sensor we’ve found in one of their phones (forgot which one)
            Motorola is on my shitlist as a cameraphone.
            I remember with my OG Droid, couldn’t even take a picture in my own bedroom, it I had 2 lamps on, and unless I used the flash, the whole picture looked like a grainy mess. Outside or in better light, it was much different but… duh…

      • Anonymous

        apple has the best cam and best display that’s about it. but sammy has a good camara and a good display  too. I just dont like that taking a portrait pics on a samsung device looks saturated

    • Anonymous

      You’re craxy if you think any of Moto’s phones can compete with the iPhone’s camera. I will say most Motorola devices do well in the video department, but can’t hold a candle to the Apple, Samsung or Nokia’s offerings.

    • Ted

      I own both a bionic and a iPhone4, the camera quality is indeed better on my bionic than the 4. But the 4s will definitely beat most phone cameras on the market.

    • http://twitter.com/Mandog202 Rich M

      moto cameras are awful, best phone camera i’ve used to date IS the thunderbolt, actually

      • LionStone

        You got that right brother! I just sent some pics to my buddy from his wedding (outdoors in the Eastern Sierra), he was like damn dude, great pics, send me what you got! Dual led at night for video is great! A big part of getting good pics is knowing photography, lighting and composition. I’ve taken awesome photos when I had my Blackberry’s 3.2. The speed and quality of the TB allowed me to not have to carry my point and shoot around anymore.

      • Anonymous

        The Bionic takes great shots actually, regardless of the slow focusing; the Moto bashing just continues.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=739332592 Joe Bertolino

    because getting a coffee only takes 2 seconds

    • Anonymous

      If you spend your day at Starbucks, like most of the Apple people do, then it probably does.

    • Mike D

      If your Sonic the Hedgehog it does…

  • http://www.facebook.com/japultra Jason Nguyen

    Maybe they’ll finally wake up (probably from the coffee) after they see this. 

    • smeely

      Yea maybe apple will wake up and stop sueing everybody