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Current Verizon Customers Won’t Ever Be Affected by Tiered Data, Only New Customers and Lines?

Yesterday was filled with the not-so-exciting news of tiered data plans that will launch at Verizon Wireless on July 7.  The whole day got kicked off when we received an initial pricing tip on how the plans would be structured which was then followed up by an employee email that hit more than a few major tech sites, including ours.  And after all of that settled, the executive director of communications for Big Red came out and confirmed that “usage based” plans would indeed be starting next month.  It was a wild ride, but we may have some news that will brighten up your day as an existing VZW customer.  

According to our friends on the inside and that screenshot above (which is unfortunately partially cut off), existing customers may be able to keep their current pricing and data plan when renewing or upgrading as long as they are locked in prior to 7/7.  And from what we’ve been told, that’s a forever type of thing – as in, you can upgrade a year from now and still hang out with your best friend, the unlimited data plan.  At the same time though, they only gave you one more New Every 2 after it was cancelled, so let’s not get too invested into forever.

With that said, we want to make sure you understand that this is for current or contracts that were just signed prior to 7/7.  What that means is if you add a smartphone line after that date, it will receive tiered pricing even though your other lines will all remain unlimited.

Update:  A non-cut off picture of the same document (Cheers @michaelfagan!):

Sound too good to be true?  It almost does to us too, but we’ve heard this a couple of times over the last day and a half.   File it away as a semi-rumor for now, until we hear something official from Verizon.

Cheers TheGhostbuster007!

  • jbonics

    In my truck……

  • jbonics

    We smartphone users must really be sucking down some data. 8MB/s on 3G when tethering for free to the xbox360, can’t complain.

    • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

      LMAO 8MB/s on 3G? even 8Mb/s is impossible.

  • http://tristanleawesome.tumblr.com Tristan the Marine

    So wait… I’m up for upgrade NOW. Do I have to upgrade before 7/7 or not to keep my unlimited?  Or as a current customer do I get unlimited *whenever* I upgrade? I’m confused by the verbiage in this story. 

    • Anonymous

      I am confused too but from what I gather, as long as you are not a new customer or adding a new line, you should still be able to get the unlimited. At least that’s how I understand it. 

    • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

      ok you know how you can upgrade after 20 months? if you hit 24 months, i think you’re done cause you have to sign a new contract. they give you 4 months to renew and upgrade the phone.

  • gregba

    So if i switch to VZW before July 7th and get the DINC2 (which I dont want, but really want the galaxy s2) can I return that after 30 days an say I don’t like it?  Just keep doing that until the galaxy s2 comes out?  I was going to switch as soon as that came out,  but i want the unlimited data

    • Anonymous

      14 day return from VZW. 30 days for bestbuy.

      • gregba

        do you think that would work to just keep returning different phones until what I want comes out?  anyone have experience with that?

        • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

          no that won’t work. they’re smarter than that.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR6HpRLyzMY Walter Sobchak

          Not sure about best buy, but vzw only allows one exchange.

        • Anonymous

          Best Buy to the best of my knowledge allows more than one return. How many more after 1 I am not sure. 

        • Anonymous

          Best Buy to the best of my knowledge allows more than one return. How many more after 1 I am not sure. 

    • Bewara2009

      YOU only have 30 days to test the phone to see if you like it..After 30 days pass you are locked in for 2yrs contract.. SO your best bet is to buy a smarphone now and get the unlimited data plan before July 7th… Once the phone that you want comes out you should be good with no problems. 

    • Bewara2009

      When I said get a smartphone I don’t mean get it from Verizon,  get it from ebay or any other website that sells used phones.. 

    • Anonymous

      I asked this in the Verizon forums and the consensus was that exchanging the phone would result in a new contract.  

    • Wikid_one

      Verizon only allows one return for a different product.

    • Anonymous

       if you go through verizon then you have 30 days from the date of the first purchase. So bascially you only have 30 days.

    • gregba

      thanks everyone for your input

    • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

      14 days

    • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

      14 days

  • Anonymous

    I am not budging right for a new phone, 3G or 4G, or a new contract until the jibberish starts flowing directly from Verizon. I already have unlimited data on all 3 lines, so who gives a rats a-s-s.

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t this similar to AT&T?  I think they let you keep your unlimited usage even when you renewed or upgraded (to a new phone).  I left AT&T for Verizon before I could renew to know for sure, but I think that was/is the policy there.

    • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

      when people upgraded to the iPhone 4, there were told to get the new data pricing.

  • Anonymous

    Better hurry and sign up now!!

  • JTurner

    My wife doesn’t have data on our family plan for budgetary reasons. Does this mean I need to sign her now if she ever wants unlimited data? We are Verizon customers, but do you already have to be in the data plan to keep the old pricing?

    • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

      yes

  • Bewara2009

    Can someone please answer my question..
    I am in a family plan right now, but with no smartphone at all. We all are ready for an upgrade As two of the members in the plan are waiting for droid bionic and iphone 5 to come out, can we still get the unlimited data plan? Or do we have to a have a smartphone  with the unlimited data plan to take on this action? 

    • http://twitter.com/grilmasterweber Kurt Weber

      1. no… you have to get the unlimited before july 7… and 2…. there is no ijunk 5 coming out this year :D

      • Bewara2009

        So if I just use an old smartphone now… and once the bionic comes out can I still get the unlimited data plan?? Thanks for the reply 

        • Anonymous

          yes. I suggest used so that you don’t use your upgrade now.

      • Nate

        That “ijunk” is coming in september.

    • Anonymous

      You need a smartphone for the data plan to be added. I’m not sure that’s a feature you can add to a dumbphone. Get a Palm Pix for $49 at newegg, get your unlimited data locked in. When the new phones come out, use your upgrades.

    • Anonymous

      To answer your question, I believe each line is separate. So if you upgrade only one phone tomorrow and got unlimited, I don’t believe you can do the same to another phone if you upgrade a month from tomorrow.  That’s part of the reason why I believe they’re doing this whole family data plan thing to share all the data.

  • Chowdur

    I just renewed and got a thunderbolt, what happens in two years if I simply buy what ever phone is out then at full price. Would my contract stay the same since I didn’t renew?

    • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

      yes

    • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

      yes

  • IgotGAME

    I have a plan grandfathered in from Alltel that I am STILL on…it’s much better than one of Verizon’s plans so I am not worried…just keep grandfathering me in and I will be fine :)

  • IgotGAME

    I have a plan grandfathered in from Alltel that I am STILL on…it’s much better than one of Verizon’s plans so I am not worried…just keep grandfathering me in and I will be fine :)

  • IgotGAME

    I have a plan grandfathered in from Alltel that I am STILL on…it’s much better than one of Verizon’s plans so I am not worried…just keep grandfathering me in and I will be fine :)

  • Clempka

    I sell cell phones. Currently in Verizon’s systems the unlimited 3g plan is different than the unlimited 4g plan in the computer. When someone upgrades from a 3g phone to a 4g phone the computer automatically drops the 3g plan and adds the 4g plan. What this means is if you upgrade to a 4g device after the 7th, the computer will drop you 3g unlimited plan and add one of the tiered 4g plans. 4g devices are completely incompatible with 3g data plans, the computer wont allow them on the same line. I upgraded to a 4g phone so I’ll be grandfathered into the 4g plan and not the 3g plan.

    • Anonymous

      What your computer says now is not necessarily relevant. When the new pricing structure goes into effect, the pricing databases will be revised. 

    • Jimmy

      i don’t think the plan itself is different.  when I went through the upgrade process to see what the difference would be, the unlimited data plan stayed the same, but they added and removed a few features.  but the key to me was that there was no 4G data package – it was simply referred to as “Unlimited Email & Web for Smartphones”.

      The items that were removed were national access roaming, NE2, general IP nat address pda, and 3G device – each of which was listed as $0.00.

      see attached.

      • CUTEPUP31

        I have had my Samsung Galaxy Tab since way before 7/7 and never had the option for “unlimited”. Any thoughts and what should be next course of action? Thanks, Charles.

        • Lampteyagent007

          Tablets never EVER had a unlimited plan especially since at that time companies were already starting to shine away from unlimited data plans (blame AT&T for that)

    • Anonymous

      If true, this is the most important post on this thread.  So Do I use my upgrade on a Thunderbolt or Charge that I don’t really like that much to get 4G locked in or just hope that unlimited 3g will be transferable to unlimited 4g

      • Anonymous

        The fact that it says existing customers will keep the same “pricing” when “upgrading” is positive though.  As well as the fact that they say new “lines” will get the new pricing.  

        On the other hand this is probably just misinformation by Verizon so we don’t all upgrade to unlimited 4g before 7/7  :)

    • Yo Mama

      It’s funny how you guys guess at what Verizon’s business plan is…none of you have any idea what their plan is. Verizon wants to keep their customers, not lose them. If you are grandfathered into an unlimited data package, it doesn’t matter if it’s 3g or 4g. But you guys keep guessing – it’s fun to watch.

  • http://www.facebook.com/vinny.cristiano Vinny Cristiano

    This is gonna sound really stupid but since my brother’s line is suspended and he never had data if he comes back after July 7th he would be subject to tiers?  Verizon wouldn’t be nice and make unlimited a thing for anyone that’s been a customer before July 7th whether you had data or not?

    • http://www.technogeekguy.com dswartze

      I would think you have to be a current unlimited data customer in good standing to be grandfathered in.

    • http://www.technogeekguy.com dswartze

      I would think you have to be a current unlimited data customer in good standing to be grandfathered in.

    • Anonymous

      Its pretty clear – you have to have the unlimited data plan before 7/7. You need to reactivate your brother’s line and add a data plan if you want in.

  • http://www.facebook.com/vinny.cristiano Vinny Cristiano

    This is gonna sound really stupid but since my brother’s line is suspended and he never had data if he comes back after July 7th he would be subject to tiers?  Verizon wouldn’t be nice and make unlimited a thing for anyone that’s been a customer before July 7th whether you had data or not?

  • Anonymous

    File it away as a rumor along with the prices and allowances you posted about with no physical evidence. You post this PICTURE and seem more skeptical about it than you do with the heresay you’ve been presented previously about the cost of plans. For shame.

  • Anonymous

    What if you are a current customer without a smartphone, but buy one after July 7.   What if you have a 3g phone with unlimited and then buy a 4g phone?

  • Erik

    Hahaha, next thing you know Verizon deliberately leaked this to get their sales up before July 7 and then on July 8th they’ll be like “NOT! You’re next upgrade will be to a tiered plan”. But I guess an additional two years to ride out wouldn’t be bad.

    • Anonymous

      They’ll give details before they launch the plans and all of our questions should be answered within a week of its deployment.

    • Anonymous

      They’ll give details before they launch the plans and all of our questions should be answered within a week of its deployment.

  • Bittrblue

    It is not photo shopped.  I work at a retailer and I just recieved that same picture as an email attachment from the owner of our store. 

  • ride VT

    No love for the Green Mountains, come on Big Red!

  • Rich

    well don’t be bamboozle because VZW will say that upgrading or new for 2 or what ever will be considered a new phone I.E. a new contract… so in essence you will be on the tiered data in then end…

    Question: How can anyone be so dumb to think other wise, when VZW has done what they have in the past to squeeze every cent from you… They even made policy that says if you have a scratch on your phone they can charge you to trade it in or to replace it or do a factory warranty on it… Its all about money and I for one won’t take it anymore… I will be switching  from big red to the other carriers who don’t lock their phones and who don’t rape you in the end because they want to thank me as a customer…

    If, at&t and t-mobile join forces which i think was the idea (i may be off with the company merger but there is one in the works between 2 carriers to merge) they will be better than big red because they will own 40% of the international market of cell phones…

    My thoughts were, that VWZ can’t base plans on bandwidth usage as they say they are doing here, which is why their in a lawsuit over what the FCC says can or cant be done…

    • Anonymous

      Wow.

      We don’t know EXACTLY how all this is going to work yet. Until “VZW” announces something official it is all rumor and speculation.

      But, let me get this straight, instead of evil VZW, you will go running to AT&T/T-Mobile? You clearly have done your exhaustive research. Because, you would know AT&T has had this sort of pricing structure in place for a while now and T-Mobile will throttle your data after 2gb. But, I’m sure you knew that. Of course, you are also right that when any company becomes larger and swallows up the competition, it is always better for the consumer because that company is now bigger.

      And thank god AT&T doesn’t lock their phones. Unless your speaking of the Atrix or the ability to sideload apps. Yup, AT&T is your friend and they want to thank you!! They don’t want your money.

      The FCC argument is spot on, oh, wait, the one where they will be fighting the FCC over charging for tethering due to the agreement with the FCC on not limiting how the end user can USE the data or they are paying for or blocking apps in the marketplace?? That must be what you meant as your previous statements were so solidly rooted in fact.

      Thank you for your enlightening contribution to the discussion.

    • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

      because you’re renewing your old contract, and not signing a new contract. different things here.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mobrienjr Michael OBrien

    the whole grandfathered in has worked for AT&T, so just maybe, just maybe it will stay here also.

  • MOTOX

    Thank god…

  • Anonymous

    Need updates on the SG2 and Bionic…. good bye dreams of the Nexus 3….

  • A_bit_cloudy

    So I have 2 lines right now that are upgradeable… do I need yo renew my contact on these 2: lines to keep my unlimited on those lines?

    • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

      before your contract ends yes.

  • http://twitter.com/Eyebolt Marc Eickholt

    hmm…anyone want to send me an OG droid for free so I can lock the wife in at the current rates since she’s not due for an upgrade until December? 

    • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

      swappa.com

  • Anonymous

    I reassess my previous position that this new pricing structure is why they were holding off on the SGS2 and the Bionic..no, no….this is a direct effect of the upcoming iPhone 5. I still do not like this pricing and it doesn’t change my opinion of Verizon in any way. But if I am still covered (on month to month right now) for when I upgrade, then all good.

  • CircusTravis

    If they ever do try to move you to tiered-pricing when upgrading, especially if your contract is up, you can do what I always do and express interest in another company’s deals. I got them to honor the 2-for-1 deal that they had on the OGDs back in last March even though I was only eligible for one upgrade by saying, “Oh, when is my contract up? September? Ok, well, nevermind on this, I’ll just wait til then and get an iPhone.”  Suddenly I was eligible for the BOGO deal. So they’ll bend/break rules to keep customers.

    Apparently they can’t detect bullshit very well, like I’d ever get an iPhone!

  • T Warne Jr

    So as long as I’m on contract I’m fine? Sounds too good to be true and I get my last NE2 on 7/9/11 so if I upgrade after do I still get to keep my unlimited data? Also if phones on my exsisting plan want a smartphone at a later date will they have to get tiered data if they’re upgrading from a feature phone? Sorry just curious about my situation. I as well will be on my mom and dad’s plan FOOR-EV-VER! (Squince voice from sandlot)

    • johnny

      You want s’mores?

      • http://twitter.com/droid_dizzy Timothy Warne Jr

        Some More what? how can i have more of something if i haven’t had nothing? .
        on a serious note i hope sgs comes with lte so i can upgrade.

  • Kaufkin

    I just got off the phone w/ a CSR who was at least able to put a “Log entry” in confirming that I’ll keep the Unlimited plan w/ the Sam GII when it comes out.  after that, honestly, we’ll see.  not sure it will stick, but it’s better then nothing, and politely tells them how thrilled we are with the new pricing structure.

  • http://whitemarket.freeforums.org/ Avery Dejuan Herron

    Sprint is calling my name now all version had to do is say go with your fahther!

  • Anonymous

    My question: I have a droid x but am currently contact- free( ended, haven’t renewed/ upgraded since waiting for Bionic). I have family plan with my.1 smartphone. Do i have to renew now to keep unlimited? Or since I am current but off- contract will oit remain when I upgrade? My. brain is not wrapping around this well….

    • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

      i believe if your contract has ended, you have to buy a new contract, kicking you off. you have to renew. thats why you have that 4 month grace period.

  • RevolutionX

    So What will happen if my contract ends but I dont renew because I am waiting on the late summer releases of handsets? Technically I will be on a month to month basis with no more obligation contract wise….. will this count against me as far as being able to keep my unlimited data plan or will I have to renew my two year contract prior to 7/7/11?????

  • John

    AT&T let you grandfather in unlimited plans right?  So what’s the big deal.  Makes more sense to let you keep your plan than having a huge clusterfuck of backlash since that would be the inevitable result.

  • Anonymous

    july 6th my n2 becomes active, if i buy the thunderbolt for example and pick 4G i can stay with it 4ever? great…but what if i pick the DX2 and 20 months from now pick a 4G phone? will i still get a 4G unlimited or do have to pick a 4G phone on the 6th? if so does anyone know if the galaxy 2 comes out b4 july 6th and if it will be 4G?

    • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

      you don’t have to pick 4G, you just activate the phone. data is data.

  • L8nighter

    I wonder how this will affect their Enterprise Data Plan which I am already paying $45 to use Good Mail?  Also, I am out of contract so I wonder if I will have to renew a 2 year contract before July to keep unlmited or is it only if you are a paying current customer?

  • thinkaboutit

    this new pricing is to make as much money possible off of people jumping over for the iphone 5

  • Anonymous

    So if I’m not on a 4g Data plan by then I’ll have to get the “tiered” data plan when I go to 4g?

    • Anonymous

      3G or 4G doesn’t matter.. what matters is if you have a data plan before 7/7. If yes, you’re fine. If no, then you’ll be on the new tiered data plan. If you add a new line that needs a data plan after 7/7, you’ll also be on the new tiered data plan.

      • Anonymous

        tiered data also applies to 3g phones? I had just ignorantly assumed this tiered data was only applying to 4g

        • Anonymous

          Why wouldn’t it? Not everyone 1) has a 4G phone or 2) lives in a 4G area..

        • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

          the prvious article clearly states that there is no difference in plans for 3G or 4G. data is data

      • Anonymous

        Thanks. That’s what I got from the article but someone’s comment made me think about it b/c 4g is a different type of data then 3g. And VZ might try to pull a bait and switch on me.

  • Brett

    So does anyone know if its possible to add a unlimited data plan on a dumbphone (LG VX8600)?

    • Anonymous

      No, different rate plans. I tried switching my current plan to a dumb phone when I traveled overseas and Verizon said I’d have to switch my data plan entirely else it wouldn’t activate. 

  • Drew Smith

    What if I go from a 3G phone to 4G will it stay unlimited?

    • Anonymous

      Doesn’t matter.

    • Anonymous

      No one knows. I’d wait for verizon’s official word on this.

  • Thatsjared87

    What about switching from 3G to LTE?

    • Anonymous

      Doesn’t matter.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10215724 Raj Bhatt

    AWESOME.

  • Dabruise

    As an ex vzw employee thats how i thought it would go.  There were still people on retired plans all the time.

  • Anonymous

    Nice Info!!  =D

  • Anonymous

    halle-freaking-lujah!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Angel-Luis-Gonzalez-III/591224353 Angel Luis Gonzalez III

    If this is true, I haven’t heard nothing at verizon where i work yet on this, so I’m waiting to see whats up if its not true, sprint here i come :P

    • mrcamillo

      I’m a tech (contract non-emp) in a VZW store, I knew about this for 2wks now.. As long as they keep those of us unlimited when we upgrade, I’m fine with that. Just want a new LTE phone to come out so I can upgrade again.

  • thesaber2000

    Still thinking about jumping ship to sprint. It all depends on how this. Plays out. I wanna get a new phone in a couple months but i dont wanna be on a contract, basically so i can leave anytime i want.

    • http://twitter.com/Skitz_Marz Alex Gandero

      or just keep your plan and keep buying your phones off contract

  • tjhrulz

    It looks photoshopped coments in 3 2 1

  • Anonymous

    I’m thinking that if this is true, then at some point in the future (say.. the end of your 2-year contract if you sign this year) they will have revised this and everyone will be on the tiered plan.