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Nexus 7 vs. iPad mini [Chart]

I think you all know my opinion on the Nexus 7 vs. iPad mini comparison that Apple walked through today during their press event. Aside from that, here is the spec breakdown between the two. Since both are in different price ranges, it seems like a silly comparison, but hey, Apple felt it was necessary, so let’s do it. It’s tough to claim that we have a winner here, however, the Nexus 7 is no slouch, even at such a ridiculously low price. The iPad mini looks nice for something not in the budget category. 

*Note – Google has a 32GB Nexus 7 on the way for $249, but since it hasn’t been officially announced, we left it off for now. We also don’t know the fate of the 16GB and 8GB models.

  • http://peoplewho.tumblr.com wireless G

    All I care about is how many rows of icons they’ve got.

  • http://twitter.com/PrdAmrican PrdAmrican

    Don’t forget the GPS and other goodies built into the N7…

  • http://scribblepeople.net Mike

    wow, clear winner!

  • Tony19

    Just boils down to one thing: Apple couldn’t do it. They were thoroughly unable to make a good, small, cheap tablet that can compete with the Nexus 7 and even the Kindle Fire

    • http://www.vgchartz.com SuperChunk

      ….because they have to maintain a certain level of margin in their products. Google and Asus were willing to make very little to gain marketshare.

  • manny

    Once Android sells 100 million of anything….give me a ring…It’s a buisness girls and goggle is loosing

    • ddevito

      what are they losing – they just had another great quarter?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=75200646 Stephen Cox

      Not sure who this ‘Goggle’ is you are speaking of. Do they make swimming toys or something?

    • col3rsc

      I didn’t lose my goggles.

    • TheVoiceOfReason

      Collectively, the Android platform has sold well over 100 million devices, and they posted the activation numbers to prove it.

      I’m sorry, did you want to say something else?

  • http://www.facebook.com/NottyBear Anthony D. Crawford

    New marketing campaign for Google against the iPad Mini. Apple needed a 7.9 inch screen to fit 1024 by 768 resolution, we only needed 7 inches to get 1280 by 800 resolution!!!!

  • ddevito

    Yo!

  • Chuck Finley

    Soooo……the 7in tablet was the most ridiculous tablet size….until some Android tablet proved it could sell if priced right with good specs.
    So now, the 8in tablet market is pure genius………destined to ruin Google and Amazon?

    Got to hand it to Apple, though. They could have released a 6in or 12.9 inch iPad and everyone from BGR to CNET would have said they changed the game again.

    And what happened to the New iPad? Is that how RAZR owners felt watching the RAZR MAXX get released?

  • YankInDaSouth

    IDK – between quad-core and the far superior display, I think the N7 CRUSHES this MaxiPad … um, ah … mini pad

    • Chuck Finley

      You’re looking at it wrong, Apple fans don’t care about specs…..until Apple does.
      This thing could have been released with an e-ink display and they still would buy it, saying, “We don’t need COLOR to enjoy our Mini, plus it’s bigger than yours!”

  • ace

    Deja, Deja, Deja, Deja Vu

  • http://twitter.com/skrewee13 Skrewee Lewee

    The only real problem with the Nexus7 is the availability. All of the iTards will be able to get their new mini anywhere, but our beautiful Nexus is only available online or in a few retailers.

  • dave

    Wow, no extra row of icons. Apple really bent me over on this one.

  • http://www.dsaif.tk/ Saif

    overpriced crap

  • http://peoplewho.tumblr.com wireless G

    wait wait WAIT!

    …did they manage to squeeze in an extra row of icons?

  • DanWazz

    Good for Apple fans on a budget. Sadly for them, they are getting an inferior piece of technology. But when has being an Apple fan been about getting the best? It’s about getting an Apple.

    • hfoster52

      They are getting an IPad2 but smaller!!! *Mind Blown*

    • NicholasMicallef

      Yup, this is just for the people who want an apple badge at a low(er) price but can’t afford a proper iPad. There is just nothing unique about this, nothing to give it special properties which might make someone with a tiny bit of common sense think they might have a use for it if they can afford a proper iPad instead. This is pretty much the BMW 1 series in the tablet world.

      • Kindroid

        Hey, the BWM 1 series is a hell of lot better in respect to its siblings….than this pathetic iPad Mini ever has a chance of being.

        • NicholasMicallef

          My point is that it is just a car most people buy for the badge that comes with the car and not because of the car.
          Actually here’s a better comparison: Aston martin Cygnet, practically a Toyota IQ with an Aston Martin badge and a high price tag.

    • Chuck Finley

      Apple fans will always say, “It just works.” (even when it doesn’t)
      They couldn’t care less about LTE until i5 got it. They still don’t care about NFC, until i6 gets it. Bigger screens made no sense because “3.5 was perfect and common sense” until….wait for it….i5 gave them a bigger screen. 7in tablets were a joke, until Apple gave them 8inches.

  • chris

    I wish my nexus 7 had a rear camera.

    …jk lololol.

  • ddevito

    Has anyone else noticed how Apple created the iPad Mini picture (above)?

    Notice the iPad Mini is leaning on the left side, N7 on the right.

    Also, notice how Apple used blueish (cooler) colors on the image, in comparison to the warmer colors of the Nexus 7 image?

  • spunker88

    Glad to see Apple’s run out of ideas, they are now resorting to releasing variations of existing products. I seem to recall them doing the same thing with the Apple II and losing the desktop market to Microsoft in the 90s.

    At 163ppi this matches the 2007 iPhone, its 4:3 display reminds me of those cheap tablets you’d find on ebay. The 5MP rear camera is about the only real advantage it has over the Nexus 7, but I don’t see the point of a rear camera on a tablet.

    With the 32GB Nexus 7 thats rumored to be coming soon for $249, you’d be crazy to pay $329 for a 16GB iPad Mini with outdated specs. But the sheep will line up to buy it, you wait and see.

  • moelsen8

    i mean it looks nice. but the screen resolution makes apple look real lazy considering they drop the word “retina” every chance they can otherwise…

  • slider112

    32GB N7 – $250 > 32GB iPad Mini – $429

    The end.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bmyton Ben Myton

    30% Thinner
    9.5% Lighter
    23% Fewer Pixels
    50% Fewer CPU Cores
    ??% Faster GPU
    Richer App Market

    72% Price Increase

    I don’t like the math.

    • EC8CH

      1000% more Magical

      • DrewNusser

        1,000,000% more fruity!

  • slider112

    32GB N7 – $250 > 32GB iPad Mini – $429

    The end.

  • androidfan 4 life

    the ipad to me is a copy cat of the nexus 7 that goe’s to show ou that apple is jealous of google and android and the specs of the ipad mini is awful the display is less the the 7 and it has no nfc chip in it to me is garbage

    • JoshGroff

      NFC in a tablet is like a rear facing camera, it’s just silly. Would I still rather have it and not need it, yes.

      • http://twitter.com/SparkysShocker SparkysShocker

        Please explain? If you think NFC is just for Google wallet then yes you would be correct but NFC can be used for far more then that. One of the goals of NFC is to take over what QR codes currently do.

        • JoshGroff

          I just think the idea of swiping a 7/10″ tablet over an NFC chip somewhere would just look weird, like people taking pictures with said tablet.

  • user311

    How the mighty have fallen… Apple has just released a mediocre “Me Too” device.

    • hfoster52

      Dubbed as serious innovation that they spent a lot of time researching….. Why not just say that since Amazon (Kindle Fire/Fir HD) and Google (Nexus 7) as selling millions of this size we decided to do it as well so round out our product line.

      • http://www.engadget.com/ Jon Fingas

        Oh, they did do some innovation and research — it’s just what they were looking at that’s the issue.

        The iPad mini shows a lot of effort put into dimensions, build quality, battery and ergonomics. It’s just that there’s nothing really shattering expectations. I’m not sure Apple needs to be as worried as people here argue, because it’s not all about quad-core chips (that are slower in some areas) or resolutions (on poorer-quality screens). Having that wide a price gap isn’t very smart, though.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sean-Mcintier/1146574107 Sean Mcintier

          It’s pretty much a smaller iPad. A lot of effort was put into designing those, but the iPad mini is pretty much a small iPad 2.

  • Tampon 500

    how many people use the NFC on the N7? Also on that chart i don’t see the “force close” feature that is built into a lot of Android apps. Also…it’s a shame that apple can run it’s UI just as smoothly as Androids on a dual core pro instead of a quad core. Just throw more hardware to the problem Goog don’t worry about making the OS and UI efficient. Also where is the LTE for the Ipad mini? Don’t see that on the chart either. This is a severely biased chart Kellex.

    • JoshGroff

      iOS is mind numbingly simple, nothing’s happening that could even begin to cause lag.

    • KB26

      There is no force close feature. I can run 2.3 gingerbread fine on a single core processor. Also, google IS making the OS and UI efficient. Sounds like a troll to me.

    • cleetose

      I have an iPad 2 and apps force close constantly. The only difference is that Android gives you an error message and iOS just closes the app.

    • Bob O’Daniel

      It’s not there because they’re trying to compare LIKE tablets. The 16GB iPad mini, base model, is wifi only for $329. If you want LTE, I believe that’s $459, with everythign still the same. Also, it’s been proven time and again that the iDevices force close more often than Android devices, it’s just that Google decided to tell us instead of make us curse our device for suddenly losing data without telling us (now we can curse at them for losing data and telling us). And then there’s the fact that le Goog IS updating their UI to be more efficient.

      TL;DR Go troll somewhere else, please.

  • cleetose

    Once the 32 gig Nexus comes out, the iPad mini is going to look even worse.

  • Captain_Doug

    biggest point of failure? PPi of 163. That and a 4×3 AR. 16X10 is perfect for tablets.

  • JDHokie

    Will look even more skewed when $249 gets you 32GB.

  • Nate Mazzara

    The price point is definitely high, but im still amazed at how apple manages to have a tablet that’s thinner than most every smartphone

    • JoshGroff

      You have more room to spread out the components.

  • celliott113

    Ahh…no comments yet? Where’s all the Apple and Android Fanboys/Fangirls out there? Can’t wait to see them hash it out about this device. Battle is already started at AndroidCentral, iMore, ZDNet and TechRadar. Come on, let the battle begin!

  • rojo623

    Wait! what? this is awesome. the N7 has a better display and a quadcore processor, and it’s cheaper?!

    DOA

    • Justin W

      Apple’s Mini sure is DOA in my mind.

    • JoshGroff

      Sheep, that is all. The iPad mini will sell more units, no matter how lacking it is.

    • AnotherAndroidKid

      you mean should be DOA.

      But the world is full of stupid people and they will continue to prove it. Crapple will sell a ton of these things

  • crApple

    lol, crApple stock dropped ~$18 when the iPad mini was announced!! ROFLMAO

    • Justin W

      It’s true! Look at just fter 2pm, it plummets. http://goo.gl/whFSI

    • AnotherAndroidKid

      actually that’s just simple buy the rumor sell the news. should have been expected.

      • crApple

        You’re completely correct. I simply find the relation hilarious. Reading an Android site when an Apple product is released and having the stock mirror my opinion just makes me chuckle for some reason, logic be damned!

        /still chuckling…..

        • AnotherAndroidKid

          i can see that.

    • trophynuts

      you’re pretty stupid. It wasn’t just the Ipad Mini announcement that lowered the stock. It was the announcement of Less than expected Ipad sales for the quarter as well.

      • Jeremy Turnley

        Technically, people were waiting for the new announcement, which made them hold off on buying, which caused lower sales, which caused the drop. So there :P

        And sadly even if they get a full sized iPad, this was a good decision, 7 months on the shelves, and the iPad 3 is OUTA THERE.

      • Geekout

        it’s a combo

  • IgotGAME

    It’s crazy that when the 32GB Nexus 7 comes out, unless they lower the price of the 8GB, it will be 4 times the memory for a $50 premium. Compare that to the iPad Mini..16gb is $329 and 32GB is $429…that’s 2 times the memory for $100 premium. Doesn’t even make sense.

  • jeff3yan

    I’m actually surprised it’s so light. I thought iDevices were usually heavier than their respective Android counterparts. Just like how the iPhone 4S is heavier than the GS3.

  • htowngtr

    And isn’t the 32gb going to be $250 soon?

  • itsacardigan

    Seems as though the specs speak for themselves.

  • Joshua Barta

    What about GPS?

  • Michael_NM

    F apple, F Tim Cook, F the iFad mini.

  • Edwin M

    Wow, they are kidding themselves with that display, the dual core processor, and the fact it probably only has 512 MB of RAM. Give me the Nexus 7 @ $80 less any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

    • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

      Amen.

    • MooleyBooleyTroll

      Sadly most people will see it is Apple and not care.

      • dangolds

        As opposed to most people on this site, who see something from Google or Android and blindly swoon. Having said that, I’d never buy the iPad Mini or the N7 but that’s just me. I’m perfectly happy using a larger tablet.

  • Justin Everett

    So they add a camera, a little more memory and a slightly bigger screen and they then charge over $100 more for it? Is Apple stupid?
    Course the worst part is that all kinds of Apple fanatics will buy them up and claim they are revolutionary or something. >.<

  • Guest

    Nexus 10 at iPad mini price? Sounds legit.

  • http://twitter.com/LoganLopez Logan Lopez

    I don’t think i would mind all of the lies at these events if more sites were calling them on it. Look, you are going to pay more for an Apple product, it is just the way it is. Is it worth it? Some would say yes if you are in that ecosystem I am not one of them. To each their own, but enough with the bullsh1t…

  • http://twitter.com/BrooksStephen Stephen Brooks

    Those who love apple will buy the iPad and call it the greatest thing ever. Those who love Android will look at specs and price and call it the greatest thing ever. I will happily watch competition drive new products that innovate and make life more entertaining. I will the flop between whatever device I choose and not argue with anyone about why mine is better than theres.

    Here’s to competition and lower prices. I never thought I’d see a $329 Ipad or a $200 tablet in general. But I’m proven wrong and it will only get better.

    Let the fighting / bashing / fanboy-ism commence.

    • AnotherAndroidKid

      Although i don’t agree with the i’ll buy either device part, i agree with the both sides making good products will help whichever product line you want to belong to.

    • onDroid

      Here’s the problem, android isn’t driving innovation for apple at the rate it should be because to many dumb people aren’t doing any research and seeing that android has better offerings and instead just go with whatever apple releases. Unless apple starts losing sales because they are behind the curve they have no reason to innovate. Innovation takes money and apple has little reason to spend it when they have blind devotion on there side. I wish apple would start to innovate again because that would only make the android world better.

    • Anon

      And those who have brains will compare multiple tablets (yay for all the new stuff this/next month) weigh in their needs and decide whether they want open, what they like the most and which tablet feels the most comfortable.

  • http://twitter.com/Fresh2infinity Marcos

    Imagine if Google announces that rumored 10 Inch high resolution Samsung tablet for around $350 ish……Mind = Blown (Samsung Commercial)

  • http://twitter.com/BetrKnowledged T’Challa

    Only winning point on the iPad Mini is the camera—and that’ pushing it. Still can’t stand to see someone taking pictures with a tablet. They look incredibly stupid; like they’re holding up a cookie sheet or something.

    • http://twitter.com/Crispityyy Chris Spells

      …And all the Lords children said AMEN!

    • http://twitter.com/LoganLopez Logan Lopez

      Cookie sheet got my upvote

      • JoshHenry

        I dont see anything wrong with it.. its almost a must that I have to have a camera on my tab especially a 7 incher..

        • JohnHenry

          Becasue you are a Magoosh!

          • JoshHenry

            10 years ago people thought cameras on phones were stupid. If you have your tab in your hand and you need to take a picture of something, wouldnt it be nice to be able to do that instantly right on your tab? only makes sense to me.

          • ya trick ya

            picture, that’s fine. but when you’re shooting video; that’s where i draw the line.

    • trophynuts

      LTE?

      • Sqube

        LTE should have been mentioned, but for $460, I think it becomes a pretty tough sell.

      • fauxshizzl

        I would rather tether than pay for an additional device, so that really isn’t a benefit to a lot of people. At least the more frugal among us.

        • New_Guy

          You also need a to purchase an agreement. No thank. wifi-tether or not at all.

      • AlexKCMO

        I’ll be honest, the only time I’d want LTE on a tablet is if I ever put one in my car as a car display. 99% of the time I’ll be around accessible WiFi or be able to WiFi Tether.

        • Droidzilla

          And if you’re in your car, presumably you have your phone with you.

          • AlexKCMO

            That’s correct. But in the effort of saving battery (yes, I can charge while I tether, but the charge will be slow or will just stay even), I’d prefer if it was an integrated system. Also, the idea of getting in the car and “it just works” is very appealing as opposed to having to plug my phone in and set it to tethering.

            I saw a guy who set up Tasker to change a bunch of settings when no AC power was detected, then turn the screen on and keep it on once AC power was detected. He said the Idle time was pretty crazy.

            With that in mind, that doesn’t mean I couldn’t use WiFi Tethering with a car tablet, but the ideal situation would be for it to have it’s own internet.

          • Droidzilla

            If you’re on a tiered plan, a 4G tablet for your car makes sense. I’m not, so I tether (I have a 7″ tab as my head unit).

          • AlexKCMO

            Nah, I’m unlimited, not tiered. I don’t have the disposable income for a seamless experience anyway.

            Like I originally said, the only reason I would want one.

        • itznfb

          I’d consider an LTE Galaxy Tab 7.7 if we still had unlimited data available to new plans.

          • Ano

            Why does anyone buy the LTE/3G tablets? Tether via bluetooth, no noticible batter life hit and very fast. And if you have an unlimited data plan for one, why buy another?

          • AlexKCMO

            The idea is for it to be seamless. If I had the disposable income, I’d do it.

    • http://peoplewho.tumblr.com wireless G

      Well I’m all in on the Nexus 7, but I don’t think you should dismiss thinner and lighter and made of aluminum so easily. I wouldn’t mind those things.

      • CaptainHowdy13

        I agree the build looks nice, I mean its Apple, their stuff always looks nice. But you pay for that and I love my N7, it may be cheaper build but it feels quite nice.

      • http://scribblepeople.net Mike

        for that much more!? ugh!

      • PhillipCun

        I could justify spending up to $100-150 more for iPad mini’s quality + rear camera + 0.9″ larger screen if the iPad mini were spec for spec with my N7… but its not, not even close. Their 32gb iPad mini will be $429 and the 32gb N7 will be $249. $180??? HELL NO

        • Guest

          Also, screen. The ‘increased’ screen size gives you nothing if the resolution is terrible.

          Also, if the 3g thing is true, then there’s another thing – 32GB Nexus 7 w/ 3G for 299$ v. iPad mini 32GB LTE for 549$?

        • michael arazan

          I also read that the New Nexus 7 32 gb will also be 3g capable at several sites.

      • http://profiles.google.com/adamtruelove Adam Truelove

        Apple’s hardware cannot be beat. Where they fail is software. iOS is a dinosaur.

        • Jroc869, Cool story bro

          And not even one of the cool dinosaurs

        • CJ

          Actually Adam if you look at the table above it clearly shows that the hardware is better on the Nexus (and at a lower price point) The Nexus has the Tegra cpu and a better display. Can you elaborate on the thought that “Apple’s hardware cannot be beat”?

          • George264

            Really, the PPI might be better, but the screen quality on the Nexus 7 is far worse. Assuming they make the display using the same process as the previous iPads. I don’t know if you have ever used/bought a nexus 7, but that screen, the colors are so messed up.

      • cooksta32676

        True, but most people don’t drop their tablets…

        • Abgar Musayelyan

          most grownups, no. kids on the other hand are a different question.

      • Anon

        While I understand the whole point, I think this is subjective. I hate anything with a metallic back, plastic just feels safer to hold. Partially the reason I stopped going for HTC is this.

        But the difference in thickness, I can’t say I’ve cared about it for some time now. I find that as long as it’s not more than 1.2 cm, it’s fine. And if anyone claims they can feel the difference between 0.9 and 0.8, well, they’re bullshitting everyone.

        I do agree that lighter seems desirable. But again, it’s subjective. I consider anything under 1.5 kg light enough for use in hand.

        • Anon

          You’ll love HTC’s One X.

      • John

        On the other hand, the 7.9″ size looses out on back-pocket portability. Basically, 7″ at 16:9 is the largest size that can still fit inside your back pocket. Apple misses this with their aspect ratio alone (even if they produced a 7″ device).

    • joe

      I like the thin bezels on the iPad. I don’t see the point of a rear camera on a tablet though.

      • DrewNusser

        The thin bezel is gonna make it hard to hold it in portrait mode though – no finger space.

        • Christopher Hutton

          When I hold my nexus 7 in portrait mode, it lays in my palm and I doodle away. Other than than once in in a blue moon, I rarely use the bezels along the vertical edge.

          • DrewNusser

            Good to know – I’ve only really played with them in the store. I could just see myself dealing with a lot of accidental thumb presses on the Mini.

          • George264

            Very true. It always lies in my left palm, and I use my right fingers to use it. And occasionally, I hold it, but thats when I’m lazy and just reading a book. I mean, unless you got one hand chopped off, I see no reason not to use your left and right hands together.

        • T.O.

          They already thought about this with iOS 6 u can have one finger on screen and scroll with other…

          • http://profiles.google.com/scott.strool Scott Strool

            You can do that with Chrome.

          • DrewNusser

            That’s cool, but it still won’t eliminate accidental thumb presses on things that are close to the edge.

      • http://twitter.com/DAG425 0100101001000111

        tablets should ONLY have front facing cameras IMO….

        • George264

          The occasional use of the back camera is actually surprisingly important. I always thought the XOOM camera was a waste, and I rarely use it, and I thought my iPad 3 camera was also a waste, but when I got my Nexus 7, and the times I need pictures of a textbook, document, or a picture of a powerpoint at school, I have to take it with my phone(which is not allowed at school, so I have to sneak it), then bluetooth transfer it.

          • Abgar Musayelyan

            why dont you beam it with nfc instead of blue tooth. not trying to troll, just wondering if there’s a benefit.

          • http://www.facebook.com/neoman4426 Joe Miller

            perhaps they’re using a phone from before NFC became standard?

          • Abgar Musayelyan

            Lol. Yeah probably it. It was late and I kind of asume that everyone on this site uses a nexus.

        • Raven

          There are at least a couple of good reasons that I think they should have both. Quickly showing someone something while video chatting without having to
          flip your tablet around and guess where you are aiming it and being able to easily scan bar codes. I really wish my Nexus 7 had a rear camera for those 2
          reasons alone.

      • Taylor Engle

        I can see it for one reason: I’m selling something on eBay and while I’m creating the post on my tablet I take a snapshot using the rear facing camera. Other than that it’s pointless. Too bad companies still stick the better camera on back and the crappy one on front…

      • http://www.engadget.com/ Jon Fingas

        Cataloguing/scanning things is a start. Video calls where you want to show what you’re seeing, not yourself. There’s also target-of-opportunity photos, like the “I’ve got to show you this” when you catch someone in a ridiculous outfit.

        It’s not a make-or-break point, but it’s nice to have.

    • New_Guy

      It’s also about an extra $100+tax for that “plus” :)…

    • ArrowCool

      The owner of my company takes pictures with his Ipad all the time. Maybe if I take a picture of him taking a picture with his Ipad, he will see how much of a tool he looks like. Probably not, though.

      • Butters619

        You should use a tablet to take a picture of him, so not only does he get to see the picture of how stupid he looks, he gets to see how stupid you look taking a picture of how stupid he looks.

        • ArrowCool

          I like your thinking, sir.

        • Christopher Hutton

          Tablet-ception

        • bonezy19

          Yo dawg…

      • kselby

        And then your boss saw this comment…. haha.

      • ckeegan

        I’m guess he holsters his phone too.

        • JoshHenry

          Sense when did holstering your phone become such a bad thing. Its very handy.. minimizes drops and scratches.

          • ckeegan

            It doesn’t minimize drops anymore than putting it in your pocket. I holstered my Droid until I realized I looked like a total douche, and that thing was nowhere near as big as my Galaxy Nexus. I seriously hope people aren’t holstering 4+” phones.

          • JoshHenry

            I guess i see what you’re saying.. but I think its kind of dumb to do or not do things based oh how it will look to other people.. If my phone holster bothers you that much, I dont think im the one thats a douche. At the end of the day ur not the one that has it on.

          • ckeegan

            I said I though I looked like a douche, not anyone else. I could care less what other people think.

      • userjoe9066

        Yo dawg!

      • http://profiles.google.com/fdec01 Frank DeCrescenzo

        Hold up a laptop and use the camera to take a picture of him using his tablet. That will one up him.

    • http://Twitter.com/ContestsAccount bigrob60

      There was someone doing that at the volleyball game I was at last night.

    • itznfb

      Not really since the Nexus 7 is a reference device. Compare the iPad mini to the Excite 7.7 or Galaxy Tab 7.7. The iPad mini is a joke in every way shape and form when you make a valid comparison.

      • George264

        HELL to the NO. The nexus 7 is not just a reference device, it is THE BEST android tablet ever. Even the ASUS Infinity Tab isn’t as good. Google built the software while making the Nexus, the same way Apple does. That makes it ultra-smooth, because of the perfect drivers. The 7.7′s are really bad, stuck on 4.0, and also slow, laggy, and lack of support. The Nexus 7 is the closest tablet on the market to the iPad mini.

        • itznfb

          I’m not saying the Nexus 7 is bad because it’s a reference device. But it is limited in functionality and features because it is a reference device. I’m just saying it makes it a useless comparison.In my experience the Galaxy Tab 7.7 and Excite 7.7 have great performance on ICS. Much better than the iPad.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=739332592 Joe Bertolino
    • Jroc869, Cool story bro

      I always think of it as they are taking a picture with something the size of a picture frame.

    • http://www.deathbycone.com Jared Kotoff

      $130 camrea right there.

    • http://twitter.com/Crispityyy Chris Spells

      …I’ll just leave this here :)

    • Jeremy626

      it can also have LTE/data

    • bsukenyan

      at my wedding there were people taking pictures with their tablets, and they did look ridiculous. they also got in people’s way and were much slower than everyone else using cameras and their phones.

    • Evans

      You get to realize how large the DL readership is when you see the likes on such posts.

    • http://www.facebook.com/neoman4426 Joe Miller

      A back camera is good for if you want to show something to someone in a video chat. Other than that and maybe scanning QR codes and the like, I personally don’t see much use for them in a tablet. Well, I suppose if you’ve got a dock it’d be good for recording classes and stuff if you use it to take notes

    • Raven

      Taking pictures with a tablet is rather silly, but quickly showing someone something while video chatting without having to flip your tablet around and guess where you are aiming it is not. Neither is being able to easily scan some bar codes for those that need to do that. I really wish my Nexus 7 had a rear camera for those 2 reasons alone.

  • daned17

    Looks like a no-brainer to me

  • http://twitter.com/DanielLoesch Daniel Loesch

    I’ve said it a million times… Google needs better PR

    • TheDrizzle

      Posting a picture of the Nexus 7 on the Google homepage was pretty good PR I’d say.

      • Roshan John

        they got themselves in plenty trouble for that.

        • TheDrizzle

          I believe what got them in trouble was actually returning the results that preferred the Nexus 7. They are free to put whatever they want on their homepage.

          • http://twitter.com/SparkysShocker SparkysShocker

            Yep had nothing to do with the N7 being on the homepage ti had to do with Google placing their Products higher on the search results page, which I also don’t have a problem with.

          • Droidzilla

            *Allegedly.

            I doubt Google actually did that, but I’ll wait for the verdict either way.

      • PhillipCun

        PR is public relations not advertising. And I agree with Daniel. Google is a advertising machine, they need to market their products better.

      • droid

        I would bet that not many people go to google.com. Being that all the major browsers (chrome, ff, ie) all support searching from the address bar, google.com doesn’t get as many hits as it used to.

        • TheDrizzle

          Probably not as much as it used to, but still a lot. There are still old people (my parents) who still go directly to Google despite using Chrome and having the Omni-box.

  • schmaltzy

    Ya know, if Steve Jobs was still there then maybe they would be providing some comparable, innovative mini tablet….but the iPad mini is just a joke! Apple fanboys are the only ones who are going to buy this. If you are a logical person that would like an affordable, high spec tablet, the Nexus 7 is the clear option!

    • dhirensavalia

      Steve Jobs didn’t even want to build a sub 7 inch tablet. If he were still alive, i don’t think Apple would have created an iPad Mini.

      • Droidzilla

        Of course they would have. I very much doubt that Steve Jobs wasn’t involved in some way in the initial planning stages of all of Apple’s products released this year. Stop lionising the man undeservedly; Apple’s done this plenty of times under Steve Jobs.

        • dhirensavalia

          I am not lionizing anyone. Steve Jobs actually said that he did not want to make a smaller iPad.
          http://www.techdigest.tv/2010/10/steve_jobs_no_s.html

          I respect your opinion, but I just have a different view on this “what-if” situation.

          • Droidzilla

            My point is that Apple’s reversed course several times under Jobs (App Store and multitasking just off the top of my head). When they do so after him, it’s all of a sudden because of the change in leadership. Like everything Apple, it’s just perception.

  • user311

    And the 4-5 month old N7 wins. Can’t wait to see the N10 next week!

    • JoshGroff

      Umm, it was released in August. I count a little over 2 months, but yes, it wins.

      • user311

        IIRC it was announced late June. :P

        • JoshGroff

          Well, it was also unofficially announced at CES or one of those other shows quite some time before that, if you want to get technical. ;)

  • wheineman

    You left out one option though. Number of apps optimized for the given resolution!

    Don’t get me wrong, I am a huge Android fanboy. But the iPad has better tablet apps. I don’t think anyone can refute that! I wish Android devs would step it up so that I can live totally within the Play ecosystem!

    • TheDrizzle

      I have had *zero* issues with apps on my Nexus 7. Maybe I’m using the wrong apps?

      • Justin W

        I feel as if most android apps can fill the “void” Apple is presenting to it’s users that Android’s app offering have. I haven’t had any issues with any apps that can be used on my phone versus on my tablet. Both have the same resolution, same on screen keys, etc. No issues here, and there are over 600,000 apps that I can use on both, vs. the whopping 275,0000 (that sounds wrong, but oh well) that are available for an iPad.

        • KreeTerry

          Lets be real, very few people will be swayed based on the app selection alone. Most people will just jump on the band wagon bc its apple.

          • wheineman

            That’s fine. More competition is better. And Apple has clearly stated that they want to once again become a luxury brand. I am sure lots of buyers will choose the iPad Mini because it’s the Apple version.

            Just like lots of car buyers get the BMW instead of the fully loaded Suzuki. Both essentially do the same thing, but the BMW gets it done with more grace and class.

          • http://twitter.com/tomhermans tomhermans

            with more grace and class he means: with a shiny apple logo on the back..

          • CopierITGuy

            I know you did NOT just compare a BMW with a Suzuki!

          • wheineman

            Suzuki does it all the time! Their Kazashi commercial is that exact comparison.

      • wheineman

        This article sums it up very well. The apps in most cases are there…But they are not on the level of their sister apps on the iPad. One advantage we have is that any android app should work at any resolution, but it’s far from optimized! http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401676,00.asp

        I am not saying that they don’t work on both phones and tablets. But wouldn’t you rather have a well optimized app that makes use of all the extra screen space?

        • TheDrizzle

          Well it sounds like we have to choose between having all the phone apps available on our tablets that are not as well optimized (Nexus 7), or select tablet apps that are optimized (iPad). I would take all the apps. Just my opinion.

          • http://www.engadget.com/ Jon Fingas

            By “select” you mean 275,000 apps, right?

            That’s the thing. People will try to knock Apple for its simple “2X” approach to phone scaling, but its goal is that you shouldn’t *have* to scale apps except as a last resort, and you rarely do. You buy an iPad and you simply assume that you’ll get all the apps you could ever need, running perfectly.

            Andy Rubin’s attitude at Google is the inverse — that all apps should scale, and none should be tablet-only — and it’s effectively handing Apple control of the tablet market on a silver platter. There’s just a few thousand Android apps that support tablets, and there’s no effective way to filter those apps (having a token “highlighted tablet apps” category with 50 titles doesn’t count).

      • Bax

        Agreed. Use Spotify on both. Just Mint on both. Use Flipboard. iPad def has better apps in the tablet space.

      • CaptainHowdy13

        The issue I have is how many apps are “Incompatible with my device” on my N7. USA today and amazon to name a few

        • Booyah

          I sideloaded Amazon and works perfect.

      • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

        Apps that work /= apps optimized.

    • Benjamin Sicard

      It’s a chicken/egg scenario. When the Nexus 7 came out we all finally saw a tablet that people would buy for its merits alone, which would then in turn create more developer incentive to create apps for not only iOS but Android as well.
      Months later, after two lackluster Apple events and strong Nexus 7 sales, I would imagine that the App gap will begin closing at an even faster rate than it had been already.

    • http://twitter.com/daniel_suraci Daniel

      I don’t own a tablet but I’m buying my parents one for Christmas, and I’ve heard this a lot. Can you name a few or link to an article discussing it? I’m just curious if it would affect them.

    • Ivan Vargas

      You said it before I got a chance to. Thank you!

    • ProZomby

      The problem is the jump from Android 2.x to 3.x and beyond (where most tablets reside) is a big jump, and does require quite a bit of rejiggering depending on the complexity of the app. With 2.2 and 2.3.3 still holding a massive segment of the Android space, it’s not always feasible for developers to spend a lot of time to make it tablet-friendly, especially for smaller developers with limited resources (time and money). Unfortunately, that’s what we have to deal with in the Android-scape for now.

    • Nathan Buth

      You could argue the reversal as well. A phone optimized app will still work fantastic on an Android tablet. If you have an iPad(I have one and the Neus 7) you know that any non-tablet optimized apps are horrible and can’t even be extended to fill the entire screen and when expanded they look stretched. And trust me, there are a ton of phone only apps in the iOS appstore.

      • wheineman

        Apple’s stretching is terrible. They should remove it. I agree.

        Android’s “stretching” is much better than Apple’s. Again, I agree.

        Developers seem to see Android tablets as an after thought though. As if the native “stretching” is good enough. If they invested the extra time to optimize for tablets then things would be good. I don’t fee that a stretched/reoganized version of the same screen is good enough for me. Look at the link I posted below comparing android tablet apps to those on the iPad.

    • Guest

      as much as i love android, that alone was the reason i bought an ipad