Yesterday, a report suggested that Google has codenamed the upcoming 2017 Pixel devices “muskie” and “walleye.” Today, I’d like to expand that conversation by tossing out a third device under codename “taimen.” The existence of the name and device comes to us via multiple sources, though the exact details of it are scarce.
Here is what we know.
First of all, our sources have confirmed “muskie” and “walleye” are correct internal codenames for upcoming devices. In fact, one pinged us in September of last year (just before the Pixel launch) with the name “muskie,” which we of course sat on at the time. (Whoops.)
As for the name “taimen,” this is yet another fish or aquatic animal, just like the others and like almost all Google products that have arrived over the past 6 or 7 years that we’ve been keeping track of. It is a large, large fish in the trout/salmon family. The size is noteworthy (like “shamu” was) because one source tells us that the phone will have a bigger screen than “muskie” and “walleye.”
What does that mean? How big? We were told that “taimen” is a phone, specifically, so I’m not sure that we should jump to the idea of it being a tablet or hybrid notebook-like device. With that in mind, we are also under the impression that “taimen” is separate from “muskie” and “walleye” internally, which could be a sign that “muskie” and “walleye” are Pixel and Pixel XL follow-ups, while “taimen” is on its own. That’s all pretty vague, I know.
We are digging into some info on Android O at the moment, but wanted to share this bit first.
Interested in an even bigger phone than a Pixel XL?



I LOVE A 6″ screen. Ditch the tablets all together. Best size for business phones (especially if you are over 40+).
hey google, phones became media devices! give me around 6 1/2 display, 5k+ battery and front stereo solid speakers and take my money….
+1
You know that taimen is Finnish and means brown trout in English, which is also a fish. Sooooo. Could this mean that Nokia would be making one of the Pixels? You know Finnish codename and Nokia is Finnish company.
6″ or bigger….and eligible for Google Project Fi.
That would get me away from my Shamu N6.
I love that machine….but a faster processor would be sweet.
(I run a bunch of widgets.)
If I had one complaint about N6 its the camera…..it’s just ok…and loads slow
so I run proshot.
Since introduction in 2014, the Nexus 6 has enjoyed a relatively small, but almost religious following. If the ever-secretive Taimen is the second coming of Shamu, then we ignorant N6 fans might finally be able to give up our much-beloved devices.
Everything that was right about Shamu (great speakers, remarkable display, correct size, leading-edge specs) is what I hope for in Taimen. I’d like some extras, of course, but unless Taimen checks at least those boxes, my N6 Shamu will remain my daily driver.
My guess would be the Taimen will be the Pixel C2
Nexus successor mmmmmm?
pixel xxl ?
Google picked Apple to manufacture the next phone
Haha – I totally want a 2017 spec 7″ tablet.
It’s the codename for the tablet cheers!
Pixel XXL
Project Tango probably.
6″ or greater phone please with front facing speakers, IP67 rating, wireless qi charging, NFC, little bezel, no physical navigation buttons, no physical buttons on the side of the phone, should I keep going?
5 1/2″ is big enough for a phone. What Google NEEDS to do is finally make a 4″ Pixel that will compete with the iPhone SE. I miss small phones. My 5″ pixel is handy, but still to big and heavy for me. Isn’t it about time the small phone crowd gets a nod?
Hahahaha 4″ phone. Keep dreaming. It’s 2017 and big phones are in.
I know you’re probably right…
What they need is a new budget phone, in the Nexus price range.
I want a hybrid device like the one they use in Westworld!
I thought it strange that the Pixel XL was made with a 5.5″ screen, when the previous model Nexus 6P has 5.7″. I’ll keep chugging along with my 6P for another year and half at least.
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Yawn. Give us 6 GB of RAM, a USB 3.0 dock that can be used to connect external storage/peripherals/display and the ability to dual boot into Chrome OS, Debian or some other OS that is actually designed for use on screens bigger than 5′ or don’t bother with half measures, Google. Yes, I know that you need to compete with the Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus. But unless you are going to offer something DIFFERENT from the Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus, why bother? Especially since now it is known that you can’t even meet your own 2 year update promises for Nexus and Pixel devices, as people who own the Nexus 6 – like me – are finding out with the 7.1.1 OTA that has been out FOR MONTHS being so flawed that it had to be rolled back with no promises of ever being released again.
Oh God Please….let its be like Shamu 2.0
As someone who owns Shamu 1.0, it honestly would be better if it didn’t. Google should instead use Chrome OS for all their devices bigger than 5′ (alright fine bigger than 5.5″) since – as 99% of the apps in Google Play freely admit – Android was “designed for phones” (or should I say small screens).
Maybe a Pixel tablet.
See comment above. Google should use Chrome OS for all their devices bigger than 5′ (alright fine bigger than 5.5″) since – as 99% of the apps in Google Play freely admit – Android was “designed for phones” (or should I say small screens).
I don’t want a Chrome OS tablet. I want an Android tablet. Chrome OS doesn’t have native apps at all. Everything is basically just a web page.
Any app developer that says Android was “designed for phones” is just too lazy to take advantage of the many cars features of the OS that can make Android on a tablet a great experience.
Well, my Shamu is going to need a replacement one of these days.
Something is fishy here…….
If by bigger you mean 6″ or above, you have my attention..
Only if it runs Chrome OS.
ABSOLUTELY! The bigger the better.
Been saying it for years, ideal is two sizes: 5″ or a hair under, and right around 6″, with small side bezels, high end specs and large batteries in both. Minimum 3.5 Ah for the small, and 4.5 Ah for the large. 1080/1440p.
Large should be basically an updated Nexus 6 with vastly improved battery life and much faster storage.
Agreed on all counts but it will never happen. We have had a Nexus with truly slim bezels and I doubt HTC has the chops to hang with what LG & Samsung are doing now as far as large screens in smallish bodies.
Ideal for who exactly? 5.0″ is still a bit large for the small phone crowd.
4.9″ with small side bezels can be done to come in at under 68mm width, the sweet spot for good true one handed use for most. Smaller than the Nexus 5, just a hair larger than the original classic Moto X. The “small phone crowd” would be largely (ha) very happy with this. I’m one of them.
A Nexus 7 still fits in my back pocket ,no prob.
Maybe the first large phone they have which supports their tango tech as well as their daydream vr tech? The google official version of the asus tango phone?
STILL rocking my Nexus 6…..I cannot seem to even begin to like or desire anything with a smaller display!
Even considering the Galaxy 8 Plus….
But I went an bought an extra Nexus 6 on Swappa, in Mint condition, just to have it….it was cheap as well! Still an AWESOME phone!
I would totally consider this new PIXEL if it had the 6″ display…6″ is perfect display size!
BIGGER IS BETTER!!!
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I want a 6 inch Pixel XL, that way I can feel how six inches really feels like…? Ha ha
I grew up fishing both walleye and muskie. Taimen is going to be smaller than a muskie, but bigger than a walleye. Google might not know that…but if you’re basing the size of the device on the name, it goes walleye, taimen, muskie.
I know the DL Crew aren’t down with the giant phones, but I travel a lot during semester breaks and so I like just having one device for everything.
Looks like Google has read all my rants lmao. Yes, we need a REAL phablet. I still have the Nexus 6 and I won’t go any smaller. Having 3 selections is the right move. Hmmmm I was going to go to Samsung this year but it looks like Google may come in the clutch. I won’t get my hopes too high though but this is getting interesting.
Hoping for Shamu 2 aka Taimen..?
I love the Nexus 6, but I’d be willing to switch to a Pixel XL 2 if they include front stereo speakers and wireless charging this time around. But as we do every year, we shall wait and see….
I’ll keep my Nexus 6 until a 6 inch or larger replaces it! “Size Does Matter!”
Do you have monster hands? lol I had a Nexus 6 and couldn’t get over how big it was. After 6 months I sold and went back to Nexus 5. Using my phone with one hand is important(ha) to me because I like to multitask. 5″ is really too big for one handing already(i know this sounds bad) and I’m not the kind of guy to sit around and watch movies on my phone. Yes size does matter lol.
Nexus 6.9″. XL. Awesome
I’m in!
This better not be Google’s version of Apple’s special anniversary $1,000+ iPhone.
This is great news. 5.5″ is considered average now, especially once the S8 comes out with its 5.8″ and 6.2″ screens. Hopefully they shrink the bezels like Samsung.
but muh bezels gives muh fingers somewhere to go
Yup! 5.5 is way too small to be considered a phablet in 2017. I hope this rumor is true because I don’t want to leave stock Android.
Yeah, I need a replacement for my Nexus 6 and 5.5″ is too small for me now.
Pixel XL 4k
Muskie and Walleye for Android O. Taimen for Andromeda.
As long as they HAVE “ENOUGH” TIME THIS GO-ROUND and maximize the real estate, I don’t care (5″, 5.5″, 5.9″)…
HTC
Zach Morris phone. Yeaaaaah
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Nooooooo!!
We want a Big Pixel XL this time as a choice. 5″ and 5.5″ are almost the same. I have Big hands and Bad eyes… Please give us a BIG screen this time
Just remake the shamu with newer chips and I’d be happy to give up my N6
Give me a Muskie around the size of the current regular Pixel and I’ll be fine with that.
After all the trouble with the Pixel, I doubt it’s worth the hassle
what trouble? Being the best phone around sure does suck.
sure, the best phone around , that no One can buy
I bought two.
don’t be mad because you didn’t f5 the Pixel page to death like the rest of us on launch day bro!
“best phone around”. just lol.
So essentially like my 8.4″ tablet with phone capabilities? People are wrong. Tablets aren’t dead. They’re just the new phablet!
No, no, and NO!!! This big phone trend is getting way out of hand! Comon man how big do you really need it to be(hahaha)?
And to think I thought my T-Mobile Sidekick was a massive phone back in the day.
Make sense since 5.5″ is like medium now. Cut the bezels down and a 6″ would be nice.
Exactly. With smaller bezels, Google could easily fit a 6″ screen in the current Pixel XL’s chassis. Of course, that might mean no dual front facing speakers, but I’d be okay with that.
..But the current pixel already has no front facing speakers, yet still the large bezel.
And no, they couldn’t fit 6″, it would be wider at least. Unless they go 2×1 aspect ratio like LG, Samsung.
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5.5 is still HUGE
No, no it’s not.
no way…it most certainly is not.
“That’s what she said?”
I won’t go over 5.2″, 5″ is best.
Same here, but were not the only customers.
True, I’m just annoyed that the trend in flagship phones is to make them larger. I suppose it’s easier for the manufacturers though — more room for components and a bigger battery.
I’d still love a ~4.5″ phone. even 6″ is still too small for video, so what’s the point? I’d rather focus on letting it really easily fit into my pockets
I doubt they’re releasing 3 phones, when they can barely keep 2 stocked.
They will probably get help making the phones if you think about it
That would still be too big.
thats what she said…
Maybe if they work on them bezels and get a bit more innovative with features, especially when larger-screened devices = higher prices. The Pixel phones are already way overpriced, so if they can deliver on justifying the guaranteed price hike of a larger phone, I’d give it a firm MAYBE I am interested, but probably not.
“We were told that “taimen” is a phone, specifically, so I’m not sure that we should jump to the idea of it being a tablet”
Why not a tablet with LTE? I understand the statement, just wondering out loud. Pixel/Nexus 7 tab w/ LTE? Way past due.
Agree, will be almost 2 years since a tablet was released by the time these come out
We were told phone, but my initial thought was tablet too. Just not enough info yet.
was wondering if someone saw an LTE chip and assumed
I would love a phone with a 6 in screen but wouldnt pay the up front price tag that an even bigger pixel would go for. If it came to more carriers and I could purchase through my carrier it would be something I would consider
Bigger than the Pixel XL 2?! YES, PLEASE!!
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In this case, this GIF is just perfect
That’s a Bingo!
Android O news! Yes, please!
Awesome, more phones Google won’t be able to keep in stock even when sales, by comparison of other large’ish OEMs, are low.
Yet more phones Google won’t be able to keep in stock even when sales, by comparison of other large’ish OEMs, is low.
Google must have known HTC’s capacity. It has been too long. Makes me think that or google didn’t secure enough storage chips esp the 128gb
Kind of hard to blame HTC for the shortages when this is something that has happened with pretty much every Google hardware device regardless of manufacturer…
Exactly. They make 100 of each and they go out of stock asap. Then some combinations come back briefly and of course the one you want ain’t available. Whatever Google it’s not like you’re a giant billion dollar company or anything
Nexus phone, baby!
Nope.
Why you gotta tease with that Android O comment?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Link or it’s not true? XD
Bait
Who at google is looking at the lineup (and the wider market) and thinking they need an even larger phone??
They do need a larger one, especially with the S8+ having a 6.2″ screen without making the chassis large like the N6.
Exactly! 5.5 is too small for me. I need 6.
* insert obligatory ‘That’s what she said’ comment*
I do agree with you, however. 🙂
the pixel and XL are both large as hell already…
Pixel Note, Pixel XL+
Pixel Note XXL+
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