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  • We asked to keep our unlimited data plans but that fell on deaf ears. It will never happen. Super Douche Fran Shammo will make sure of that. McAdams is just pandering.

    Phones are being produced to consume mass amounts of data. Every major app out there now uses data. Then you cut out unlimited data touting how its what people wanted… People wanted a shared plan that allowed all devices to eat from the same unlimited data plate, not trying to feed 5 people with 1 hot dog.

  • i woud like the “subsidized” portion taken out of the monthly contract. i’ll end up buying my next phone anyway. why? because i’m grandfathered in with UL data.

    bring back UL data first.

  • Only if they offer Unlimited data on 4G too, like T-Mobile. I’m just saying.
    Oh and exactly how are we suppose to “ask” for this change in plans?

  • Best idea ever that NONE of your competitors have AFAIK:

    Custom plans for everyone!

    Person A) I want 200 minutes, 3.5 GB data, and 400 texts
    Person B) I want 750 minutes, 1 GB data, and unlimited texting
    Person C) I want 1500 minutes, no data, and 1000 texts
    Person D) etc.
    Person E) etc.

    EVERYONE WINS!

    Do it!

  • I would die happy if I could get unlimited use on my phone and truth be told I’ll probably switch carriers from Verizon soon because/if I can’t

    2GB of data is squat in this day and age….I go through that much in a few hours on my home laptop and since my browsing habits don’t change when I’m online on my cell I need unlimited data

  • Lets think about this. Verizon will have the customer pay full price over 2 years and not lower the per month access fee because that would negatively drive down their stock value and decrease total revenue. How about Verizon talks about lowering monthly rates for customers that purchase at full retail. If I buy at a full price I should have my bill reduced by at least $300 per year.

  • uh, sprint offers unlimited data and their unlimited plan costs less than T mobile AND they subsidize the cost of your phone. Are people braindead, do they not realize that they are going to pay more? Why do people assume that your contracted rate will be lower? Tmobile has unlimited data yes, but that plan along with the $20.00 cost added to your bill because of your unsubsidized phone, costs $90.00. The $50.00 plan only offers 500mb of data. Why do you think Verizon wants to follow their lead?

  • You are right, he hasn’t been on Letterman in a few days, and I am sure Tiger Woods is looking for a rematch, when Barry is done with one of his taxpayer funded shopping sprees.

  • Yeah, they will wait for “customers” to “ask for it”, just like they asked for the share everything plans, haha! Verizon cares about consumer feedback, just like reality television “stars” care about morals and humility.

  • I don’t care what happens. I buy the phones off contract to keep my unlimited plan anyways.

    • What a waste of money, why not just switch to a carrier that offers unlimited data, like Sprint? So each time you upgrade you pay full price? Wow.

  • I jumped ship to t-mobile and couldn’t be happier unlimited everything and not being throttled at 2 GB which verizon did to me though I am grandfathered unlimited. He listens as well as our congress does.

    • Did you pay full price for your phone? Because I pay probably less than you do with sprint and I didn’t have to pay the full price on my phone. If you have unlimited with T mobile then you pay at least $90 a month, I pay $80.00

      • Bought the phone from Google and I am paying $75 after taxes for unlimited everything.

          • I hope you are saying cheap as in it is a good deal for a powerhouse of a phone.

            Sprint will never get my money again. I had them before and when I cancelled service with them because my contract was expired they tried to hit me with a $200 ETF

          • Oh by cheap I don’t mean low quality, I haven’t tried it but I’m sure that it’s a great phone since it’s a google phone the operating system is made by google.

          • Ok thanks man yeah I never was a big fan of LG phones was a motorola die hard, but got hung out to dry with my droid 3, and used some samsung phones which are really good. But I love this phone. I have watched hd movies on it and it did not buffer once.

  • No wonder VZW sucks so bad…their CEO is f*ing Moses. Mobile phones have only been around 1/16th of his life…

    Agism FTW!

    • What you say makes no sense, yes you’d pay no termination fee but you pay the same price for the full cost of the phone. What’s worse? When you upgrade you have to pay the full cost again, but when I upgrade I get a $50 discount because of my contract which brings my total upgrade cost to $150.00. I sell my old iphone on ebay and upgrade to the new model for free.

  • It will mean unsubsidized phones 😮
    But Verizon will do as they want anyway as we all know everyone was asking for the end of unlimited data plans.. They just did what we were asking for :-/

    • You want a phone off contract, so you’re willing to pay the minimum of $600 for galaxy phone? PLUS the same contracted rate that you have now, right?

  • Mr. McAdam, may I please
    have some more unlimited data, please, Sir?
    And some nocontract on the side?

  • I definetly would love this,
    Anyway, Im going to Verizon to do this trick and keep my Unlimited Data Plan by using a
    basic phone then add a 2GB data plan, activate it, remove plan and phone, reactivate basic phone, then put the new smartphone on my current unlimited data plan.

  • Kellex put up pricing from T=mobile, Verizon, AT&T, and sprint. Family and single. Let’s look at the differences.

  • I asked them to eliminate my contract and they said no. I guess they lied :O)

  • I’d rather have my unlimited data then no-contract (& leaving Verizon isn’t an option due to my location).

    • Same here, having the same phone for two years (less with early upgrades) isn’t a big deal to me. I do love my unlimited data plan.

  • Yeah, like customers asked to sign 2yr contracts instead of 1yr. Whatever change they go with, VZW always says it’s what the customer wants. They may go contractless someday…but only if it puts more money in their pockets. The service will still be more expensive than any other provider too.

  • What’s needed is unlimited data, TRULY unlimited, that doesn’t cost your firstborn to buy. I’ve got unlimited grandfathered still, but this needs to be a plan that doesn’t cost a crapload to get. I pay about $80/month with work discount to have it. Not cheap but still unlimited. Any more than this is out of the ballpark pricewise.

    • Not going to happen anytime soon on Verizon — why the heck would they want to do that when they are charging SO MUCH more than its competitors and people still choose to stay?

  • I would have gladly given up unlimited data and switched my entire family to the “Share Everything” plan if it would have saved me money over paying for FIVE INDIVIDUAL PLANS, but it doesn’t… it would cost me MORE! There is absolutely NO reason that should be the case… no excuse for it at all other than pure greed. If VZW had any decent competition in my area as far as coverage goes, I’d have been gone by now.

    Be careful what you ask for, people… you might get it… and it WILL cost you more.

  • If he is open to it, that just means they’ve figured out a way to charge us even more by switching to it.

  • I’m still unlimited on vzw, and I’m going to continue to be. Just buy the phones outright

  • Verizon would just make it more expensive and not worth changing like they do with anything they change. Always in their favor. Greedy bastards!

  • Verizon CEO Lowell McAdam I’ve been a verizon customer for about 15 years and ask you please do away with contracts so we can upgrade with discounts and not worry about losing our plans (unlimited) Your customer WILL remain loyal.

  • I’d totally be down for no contracts if it would bring the cost down and they have an unlimited everything plan. I still have unlimited data right now and I’m off contract. It’s a shame the people not on contract don’t get small discounts since they aren’t paying Verizon back for their phone anymore.

  • I asked @vzwsupport. Everyone else should join in. If T-mo can afford to offer unlimited data, verizon can to, so let’s ask for that as well.

  • Dear Lowell McAdam as a Verizon customer of several years I humbly ask of you this….
    STOP RAPING YOUR CUSTOMERS!!!!!

    Sincerely a victim of of your greedy companies red rocket….

  • I am gonna keep grabbing my ankles and hold onto my bottle of lube just in case Mr. McAdam

  • Give me an equivalent to T-Mobiles $30 plan for say $50 and I’ll be all over it.. I’d pay an extra $20 for Verizons coverage.. Their coverage is *NOT* worth the extra $100 I would pay otherwise.

  • I want to keep my unlimited data….if I upgrade….small price to pay when you can still get my business….I’m just saying though….and yes I’m asking for you guys to also let us pay more for phones in exchange for lower bills

  • By saying “if customers ask for it” he’s saying, “if customers leave Verizon and go to T-Mobile we will do the same thing to stop attrition and that is the only reason k thanks”.

  • This is dumb. We all know he doesn’t want this. Because its costing them money if it happens. I just switched from Verizon to the T-Mobile $30 prepaid plan and couldn’t be happier .

        • I just put the bumper on it with an invisible shield so I’m fine for now. That is until I drop it and wait for otter box commuter haha. But yes. It is a rock solid phone I have AOKP on it now, but I’m considering liquid smooth or bamf. Any suggestions. I had the nexus on Verizon so I know all about ROMs and stuff. I also had og Droid

          • I’m running CM10.1’s monthly snapshot on it, just got the phone last week so haven’t tried anything but it and AOKP.

  • I want my unlimited data to stay as well but you asshats at Verizon “listened” to that too.

  • Since when does Verizon listen to their customers when they ask for something? lol

  • I don’t understand why people are asking for it. We have the option to buy full retail phones now and not sign up for a contract. So what’s the big deal?

    • Lower monthly service charge because Verizon’s cost of the subsidized device would not be included in the consumer’s service.

  • I will send a letter into Verizon. My requirements have changed — I no longer want to accept carrier interference with software updates, and I AM willing to pay full price for the phone as long as UNLIMITED data is included in my package.

    If I leave Verizon, I will be taking all 3 lines with me.

    At this point, I’m just waiting for T-Mo to launch LTE in my county (Los Angeles/Orange County).

    • T-mobile reception is still pretty spotty in a lot of OC. They’re making a new t-mo antenna next to my house, but I doubt I’ll get strong coverage anywhere close to Verizons.

  • sure, they’ll get rid of the contracts but still no offer an unlimited pay as you go version and probably make it cost more and not subsidize a phone. how about instead of blindly asking for the switch, let’s see what the other option is first?

  • We don’t want contracts – but we ALSO don’t want to pay full price for a new phone!

    As it currently stands, whether you’re on contract or not, you pay the same amount per month. So that means you either pay $200 for a phone on a 2 year contract or like $700 for a phone NOT on a contract – but you pay the same $x/month regardless. Not getting a contract is like…. throwing away $500! Even with the early termination fee, it’s still dumb not to take a contract.

    Contracts are not required! People don’t seem to realize this. There’s nothing stopping you from signing up for a cell phone plan and buying your own (unsubsidized) phone and not having a contract. The contract is basically “promise to stick with us for 2 years, and we’ll cut $500 off the price of your new phone”. If they get rid of contracts, that $500 bonus is going away, too, because you can be sure as hell that they aren’t going to see this as an opportunity to lower the monthly rates!

    • Umm… Cost of the phone is built into the contract. If you go past your two years, you are still paying for that phone even though you’ve basically paid it off.

  • Verizon – We’ve decided to eliminate contracts and have customers pay for their devices upfront. We will only charge you an extra $20 a month for this privilege.

  • Wonder if “we ask” will be the same result as “asking” for shared data…..more money out of our pockets. ….

  • This will only make sense ifwhen Verizon’s phones will be compatible with other service providers. As of now you can’t just shuffle between carriers with the same phone.

    • Buy another phone – unlocked device or one that is compatible with the new network of your choice.

  • Well Verizon, you have until February of next year (last of my lines is outta contract) to do so and be competitively priced. I’m heading to Straight Talk so if you want a chance to keep me as a customer, DO IT.

  • American customers don’t know they want it. The vast majority of Verizon’s customers are used to the typically American way of carriers bending you over without you even knowing (or caring) the rest of the world is drastically different.

  • If and when Google wireless starts up, that’ll put even more pressure on Verizon

  • T-Mobile is offering an ambitious option and I hope it works for them, they need more and better coverage areas with LTE, they are truly behind the times given their parent companies lack of support in the US.

    I would be fine paying 50% of the device retail price up front and the balance over 12 month and then having a reduced price on my bill after that, or pay full retail and get the cheaper voice/data plans period.

    Of course we heard similar BS from Time Warner saying their customers don’t want Gigabit to the home internet speeds, yeah because they would charge $500-1000 a month for it. The telecom’s and ISP’s got Billions in subsidies with no strings attached to make them invest in the infrastructure they were supposed to.

    The US is an economic power only in terms of how greedy our companies are and how little they actually invest into their infrastructure. I do say though Verizon has the network and they invest and invest, and invest but our costs should not go up, its the cost of doing business.

  • The only problem with this, is that, knowing Verizon, they WILL eliminate contracts and phone subsidies, but the prices will go UP, not down. Somehow they’ll reason that eliminating phone subsidies won’t mean that contract prices should go down. So we’ll end up paying more for the same thing – just like with the data sharing plans.

  • “What we’ve found is that Verizon customer really like paying more money for less data. That’s why we are now pleased to announce the 5 year less is more contract. You get 5GB of data to use however you want (over the course of 5 years). After that time you are free to have any upgrade phone at a discount!”
    -Verizon CEO 🙂

  • Yes I want this. I am not really interested in switching to TMobile but I am going to look into it.

    • after doing a ton of research i have decided to stay with Verizon, there are many places I go that verizon is the only signal

  • I won’t be buying another subsidized phone from Verizon because I don’t want to lose my unlimited data. Verizon, if you want to keep the data and then lose the contracts, then we have a point worth discussing. If not, I couldn’t care less what you do with the contracts because I won’t be entering into another one with you.

  • Sure they will give you no contract, just pay $600 for the phone like they do in the UK.
    People in the US are not used to that. and even though the math ends up being close, they would rather stay with $75 to $250 for the phone with a 1 or 2 year contract.

  • verizon is just doing the math and looking to screw you another way.

    Lots of people have asked for Google Wallet…where is Verizon on that one?

  • If he does that, I’ll stay with Verizon. Their coverage is amazing. Too bad it probably won’t. Therefore I’ll move over to t-mobile once the x-phone releases.

  • the only thing there going to do is stop contracts. i don’t care about contracts i want better pricing. that all people really want.

  • I can’t help but feel like we’re still going to be the loser in all this. T-Mobile is already within spitting distance of Verizon’s monthly prices so if Verizon makes a similar change, I guarantee we’ll end up paying a lot more in the end. With cell phone companies, change is rarely ever a good thing.

  • Verizon is all big on “If our customers ask for it”. They also said that customers asked for tiered data plans as well. I would like to know where they get this feedback from and how do you give it to them? You have no confirmation that the feedback you give to the phone rep actually goes anywhere important.

  • Why not have both options? People who want “contract free” phones or “unlocked bootloaders” or whatever, are those read websites like this, love to upgrade their phones constantly, and do a lot of carrier hopping. However, the everyday person doesn’t really are about these issues. As long as they’re smart phone works, they could care less about upgrades and carriers and wouldn’t mind paying less for a subsidized phone.

  • “If customers actually ask for it” yeah like Verizon really listens to their customers just like they did when they said “their customers” asked for tiered data plans.

    • Well I look at this way, people asked for tiered (at something cheaper than $30 for unlimited), they just didn’t ask for it to be 2 GB for the same $30 that unlimited folks were paying.

  • Was about to switch to T mobile. Do this and make the retail price cheaper. And I’m in!

  • Buying a phone for their network is a contract in and of itself; you can’t go elsewhere with it, you’ve committed.

  • We’ve asked for MANY changes, some that would even benefit VZW itself, and they have NEVER listened before. Why would they start now?

  • We are asking…So GET RID of IT!…

    Yea right, i will believe it when i see it

  • I’m asking…..Trust me, those phony baloney full-prices will drop like a rock and cost the same or less than a Google Nexus phone. Competition will take over and people will be able buy a good phone for $300 or $400 NOT $650 or $700 which total non-sense. Verizon will not do this because they know they are really not providing hardly any (if any) subsidy for the phones.

  • I’m asking…..Trust me, those phony baloney full-prices will drop like a rock and cost the same or less than a Google Nexus phone or less. Competition will take over and people will be able but a good phone for $300 or $400 NOT $650 or $700 which total non-sense. Verizon will not do this because they know they are really not providing hardly any (if any) subsidy for the phones.

  • Things I want Verizon to do:

    Eliminate contracts
    Bring back unlimited data
    Stop locking down devices
    Update devices in a timely manner
    Continue improving upon their awesome network
    Offer more high-end devices
    Give us a proper Nexus

    • I want all wireless carriers to get out of the phones business entirely. They should provide only wireless NETWORK capability. We, as consumers, should be able to bring our own devices onto the wireless network — just like we do with computers.

      Cable Internet providers don’t tell us what PC’s to buy.

      • I agree with you. Hopefully, with LTE becoming the standard among all wireless carriers globally, we can have a bring-your-own-device program at Verizon. This is one of the few things I miss by switching from GSM to CDMA.

      • They do this in other places outside the US, but the carriers like having too much control here in the states and don’t want to actually have to compete on price points

  • T-mobiles un carrier plans are a contract without actually using the word contract. I do like that you can pay the phone off and upgrade early but if you cant pay the balance off you cant cancel or leave. so think of Verizon and early termination fees, every month it drops lower to the end of your contract so pay that remainder off and your free to go. both different ways to say the same thing.

    • after your contract is over dont you pay the same phone bill on verizon??? there is a big difference

    • Its a much better system than what is currently in place. people can bring their own GSM phones and go no-contract – or buy them up front. If they are unhappy with T-Mo, they can leave at will. Also, for those that don’t pay up front and don’t change phones often – having your plan price drop after payment is complete is pretty awesome. I think they’ve done a pretty good thing here.

  • If they would compete with T-Mobile on the unlimited everything i would do it. Even if they throttle allow you to pick a GB package before throttling. So say you pay $70 for unlimited everything with 2GB before throttle. and then maybe 80 for 3GB, etc etc. that would work out well. I bet they see more new subscriptions and returning customers

  • They will probably raise the rates for those that want to subsidize a device but lower back to current rates if you bring your own phone that way they do not loose any money and actually gain some in the process

  • You know he’s going to come back in 3 months and say that their customers aren’t asking for it. Also, they’ve got their network key in their pockets. They can say they don’t have contract but if you have to buy a phone from them to use their network AND the phone doesn’t work on any other network what good is no contract? Your still playing essentially the same game.

    This is a PR stunt. Don’t read any more into it than that.

  • What’s the point? All Verizon will do is charge accordingly. You’ll still have the same exact overpriced plans, only now they’ll be sticking it to you for the full price of the device. If you think they’ll adjust their plan prices down accordingly and function as a dumb pipe (like they should be), you’re out of your mind. This Greedy company will not willingly just become less greedy.

  • The only reason Verizon would consider this move is because it will drive them away with dealing with phones. Verizon takes hits when it comes with returning and exchanging phones. How about bringing back unlimited data you greedy phucks!

  • Smart business move for Verizon. Allow another company to take on all the risks with only minimal risk that people will leave for the competitor’s service. It is a win win situation for Verizon.

  • I’m sure Verizon would love to change the billing process in a way that is monetarily beneficial to them.

  • Maybe a petition to do it. It would be nice to see them do a trial run on some basis with a certain number of customers. They used to do that a while ago for cell plans. I got into one of them and never left it since its where my unlimited data resides. I am sure even with no contract they would make you get rid of unlimited data though.

  • You can drop contracts as long as you lower your monthly cost since I won’t be subsidising my phone in my non contract plan.

  • something tells me Verizon’s version of this is to make you pay for the device up front but keep the high monthly fees anyway.

    • very, very true. they’ll pitch it as “you’ll have the freedom to change your device at ANY time .. no penalties.”

  • They’ve already eliminated contracts for me as that’s the only way I get to keep unlimited data. I am holding onto that baby as long as I can.

    • But that means that you’re either 1) paying full price for the device and paying for the built in subsidy charge or 2) paying for the built in subsidy charge long after you’ve paid off the amount that the device costs.

      • or 3) Using one of your other lines to upgrade then transfering to the unlimited line keeping the best of both worlds (Although still paying to much IMHO)

          • No you can use a dumb phone to upgrade, when you transfer back to the smart phone line it will return to the dumb phone price

          • Well, every plan has a subsidy built in. It may be less for dumb phones.

            For this situation to work, you need to have a family member that only wants a dumb phone and never wants a new one (or is willing to pay full price for a new one). And then you’re still paying for a dumb phone subsidy you’ll never use.

            This is probably not worth arguing over. 🙂

          • Can’t do that either, in order to use another upgrade on your plan that phone has to be purchased, and activated on the line that has the upgrade. Then quickly deactivated (old one reactivated) and that new phone can then be activated on your account. This is straight from the VZW salesman 2 weeks ago. He stated corporate patched the computers to not allow direct upgrades from another line onto yours anymore. This means if someone doesn’t have a smartphone in order to upgrade you have to then purchase data for that line, activate it, then deactivate and you can’t remove that data as far as I can tell it’s part of the new 2 yr contract for buying that phone.

          • Oh that sucks! Too bad they fixed it, we are attempting something like this in the next couple weeks. Guess I will find out if the rep knows what they are talking about or not.

            Makes sense they do it that way, I always assumed it was like that until someone corrected me on here a while back.

            It is worth arguing over so we can save some money! 😛

          • You can remove the data from the new line, provided you have a feature phone to activate on it. You could probably do it in the store if you felt like it.

          • Dummys. Just dont tell the vzw salesman what u are doing. Just do it. Add aline or upgrade one of your lines, not the main line with unlimited data and just switch sim cards. Remember dont tell the vzw salesman, who lie about the computer update, its a ploy they say because they will get in trouble for doing it, their bosses tell they they have to switch us and get customers off unlimited data and over to the share everything crap.
            I have unlimited data on two lines. Note 2, and dna. The 3rd line is a non data phone I used the upgrade on and then swapped sims and turned off data on it. Only charged 10 bucks for non data phone compared to 30 on the crap everything plan.

          • You are missing the point… I am doing the same thing to keep my unlimited data, but that means my price per month is covering a subsidy that I am unable to use on my line. Even though I use my family members upgrades, MY line is still being charged a subsidy that is not being used.

      • True, except when I upgrade I plan to buy second hand or see what the price is for the Moto X phone or future Nexus phone which tend to be not much more than the newest subsidized phones. I can’t change that Verizon is charging everyone a subsidized phone price on the contract, but I still save money in the long run. My unlimited data is $30 a month. Verizon doesn’t even offer a plan with capped data at that price. $50 is the cheapest they offer for only 1Gb. That means an extra $480 in data charges alone over the 24 month contract, already more than the subsidy I’d be getting. Plus, I can’t imagine the cost if I went over the 1gb one month. It’s a no brainer to pay full price for a phone or get one on a discount second hand. Add in that we are on a loyalty plan that gives us sufficient minutes at an unadvertised price. I am by no means a data hog, but will use 4-7GB a month on occassion and not having to worry if I accidentally turned off wifi and run up my data is worth a lot of piece of mind.

    • I still have unlimited data and before they turned off the upgrade option I hardly used any data (less then 1 GB) and I seriously looked into going to a tiered plan. The problem was that the cheapest plan for two phones would be more expensive then my current plan and involved me splitting data with my wife’s phone.
      So I kept unlimited instead and now use as much data as I feel like, while I may be a small fry compared to some my usage went from less then 1GB to typically over 4GB as I won’t even connect to wifi now.
      Basically I’m in the same boat as you and when they eliminate unlimited data I will switch to another company.

  • Yes, I agree if they lower their rates. I am not going to let them take my subsidized phones and still keep the rates the same.

  • A million times yes, but only if they also get rid of their dumb data tierscosts as well.

  • This will work for T-Mobile becasue they will do it right VZW won’t they will force you to buy the phone from them, so they can lock it down and put bloat apps all over it. Then they will jack the price up an extra $100.00 or make you pay a monthly fee that ends up being more than if you bought the phone outright.

  • Probably their way of getting people off of unlimited data or something that they aren’t telling us.

    • Yeah, and he’s listening…about as hard as everyone wanting unlimited data…

      • But… but… “people are switching from unlimited data at an alarming rate!” Maybe because it’s no longer an option to sign up for it. Plus I can still see them forcing off the grandfathered customers even though according to VZW people couldn’t be leaving it voluntarily any quicker.

        • I left Verizon for T-Mobile because I figured they’d find some way to kill my unlimited data. Like I was on a family plan with my sister and when the time would come to make it a single line, I’m positive they’d force me off my unlimited data plan. I don’t miss Verizon especially since I have LTE on T-Mobile

          • Yeah, I’m in southeastern Wisconsin where Verizon’s the only one with decent coverage (at least specifically where I live), especially with LTE. Milwaukee was actually rated one of the worst covered cities for T-Mobile’s service.

          • I live up in Green Bay and Verizon does better then Cellcom. I don’t have issues with my service even when I go further north. But looking at the map from T-Mobile, you are somewhat fine as long as you don’t wonder away from the Fox River by more then 5 miles. They have an extremely long way to go if they want to have more customers.

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          • T Mobile actually has HSPA+ and since the average customer cant tell the difference, they market it as 4G LTE when it really isnt

        • If Verizon did get rid of grandfathered unlimited, there would be a mass exodus of customers. The polls here showed that vzw subscribers on here were 70% or more on unlimited still, including myself. So I’m sure a good 30-40% have unlimited still and I doubt they could stand to lose more than 10% of the customers they have to other carriers and they definitely see it in the quarterlies which would piss off stock investors.

      • …Why? What exactly does an act of Congress (ultimately) have to do with people signing contracts with a private company?! No one’s forcing you… No laws are being broken. Vote with your wallet.

        • The .gov petition system is not just a dumping ground for legal gripes. Various matters can be addressed through the system — including issues related to all aspects of commerce.

          • Yes, all LEGAL matters of commerce of as it relates to executing the Constitution of the United States and federal law, not an extension of Verizon’s customer service because you happen to not like their business model. You actually don’t even need a contract on Verizon. Not only are there pre-paid plans, you can go month to month at full price if you want to. Granted you would be overpaying, but then again…no one’s forcing you. Vote with your wallets and use proper channels. I know one of my lines is going in June.

          • Not true; that’s a defeatist attitude. I’m busy, and won’t bother googling examples for you, but it can work (and has) with enough support.

          • Oh you mean how there’s a threshold requirement of 100,000 for a response, yet there are a half dozen petitions that have met the requirement, and have not been responded to? How’s that working out for you? You put too much trust in this capitalist government.

          • I was with you until you blamed capitalism. The problems you see are from abandoning true capitalism and letting the gov control every aspect of commerce and our lives for that matter. We do not have capitalism, we have a capitalist fascist hybrid, or crony capitalism. We haven’t had true capitalism in this country since the early 1900s

          • The crooked US stock market is not capitalist? The bailouts with taxpayers money (without taxpayer permission) is not capitalist? The profit driven healthcare system? Wake up man…..

          • oh I’m wide awake my friend. These things are not a result of capitalism at all. They are a result of manipulated markets – not free markets.

            Computers get cheaper, faster, easier to obtain etc. healthcare gets more expensive, harder to get, and riddled with tedious paperwork etc.. why? tech industry has true competition, and open standards instead of heavy regulation. Sure there are problems but I can buy a mouse for $7. I can’t get my temperature taken for that cost. The healthcare industry is a gross perversion of capitalism. we’re forced into insurance programs, restricted to which doctors we can see, third parties take money by middling every transaction, and the government decides what treatments can be used (and the process is directly financed by big pharma). every tool, treatment, and even the education doctors receive are regulated by the government to protect big interests – i.e. crony capitalism. Meanwhile, cheaper natural alternatives are “regulated” out of popular medical practice. Medicine is a manipulated market, NOT a free one. Lasik and cosmetic surgeries are not covered by insurance, and so the prices are surprisingly low compared to other procedures that require comparable effort / equipment. Bailout are ABSOLUTELY not capitalist, they are fascist. If you think this society is truly capitalist you have not been paying attention.

            All this happens because the gov – who is supposed to protect us from these abuses – causes and embraces them. So lets give them more authority right?

            If you want “collectivism” move to cypress (who also claims to be capitalist while confiscating 25% of citizens savings).

            Capitalism is being villainized to convince people to embrace socialism, collectivism, communism, etc. Meanwhile, Germany (the most capitalist country in the EU), is the only thing keeping the euro alive.

            go to youtube and watch a little cartoon called “the philosophy of liberty” – does a good job of explaining the root principles I’m advocating.

          • The fact that I’m the first person to +1 you, 7 hours after the fact, is just sad. Great post.

          • The thing is, when you have a free market, that’s when manipulation happens.
            Cyprus guarantees deposits up to $100,000 euros, which is standard practice. Here in the USA, it’s now $200,000. Anyone who deposits more than the guaranteed amount, takes on risk of losing some, if not all of it. Also, the majority of deposits in Cyprus are from foreigners, not citizens. So your example of Cyprus is not relevant here.

          • +1 Fantastic post, Irohenaz!

            Ever since I was first introduced to the concept of Keynesian vs. Austrian school of economics (Rep. Dr. Ron Paul (RTX)) a few years ago I became intrigued with politics to a limited degree, but enough to get me active. When I discovered the approach of our US gov’t I was a bit distraught and become more-so each passing year as I witness its actions.

            Ever since then, whenever I see people advocate gov’t intervention, even in a light-hearted or sarcastic way such as Austin Warren’s post, I grimace to say the least. I’m so grateful you posted such a great comment, and others who also posted great follow-ups explaining the detriment of “big gov’t.”

          • The last thing any intelligent human wants, is another reason for our ever encroaching current administration, to impose more stupid laws and further diminish our liberty. Government has one job, and it sur as hell has no place in the matters of private businesses.

    • +1
      At least bring back the 1 year contracts so we can keep up with phone technology.

      • Absolutely! I’d pay an extra bill if I could switch to a new device the following year without penalty

    • That guy is full of chet. It’s a PR campaign. In a few weeks he’ll come back and say the customers “don’t want it”…just like “we wanted” the shared and tiered data. This guy can go pound sand.

  • As they should! If everybody moved to this, Plan prices dropped in general, and Phones became more interoperable then the USA wireless landscape would be a whole lot Brighter. Yes I’m aware that’s a big “IF”. I can dream now, can’t I?

          • LOL @ the people who think they can directly email a top executive. I’m sure they get sorted into a separate bucket, which then get reviewed by an intern who’s in charge of copying/pasting canned responses.

          • But if enough people emailed him, they’d notice a trend.
            My sister has emailed the Verizon CEO plenty and usually gets what she wants.
            I remember way back she emailed them regarding a POS BB Curve she had. They sent her a BB Storm (which was brand new at the time) for no charge. But my sister is just good like that lol

      • Then the program that sends automated, scripted responses will get paid overtime.

  • IF, and ONLY if, they also then drop the monthly price if you’re off contract/brought your own device.

    • Too bad that’s not going to happen though. What he’s really saying is ‘We’d love to have you pay for the full price of the phone at our current phone/data rates’

      • I could see Verizon doing that. Funny thing is, I was just looking at T-Mobile’s phones and you actually pay less up front than at Verizon (sorry Tim you were wrong about paying more up front). The difference is that you pay the phone off on a two year installment plan which is awesome because your bill actually goes down after you pay off the phone unlike Verizon.

  • If verizon will switch to GSM or at least make it possible to bring a phone not bought through them over to them, i am game. The power to choose is an amazing thing!

    • Verizon can’t switch to GSM without completely redesigning their network, it’s not going to happen. Most phones bought internationally or from other carriers don’t even support CDMA.

      • LTE is a GSM technology, though. Once they fully switch to LTE (and completely drop CDMA), then we’ll be able to bring other LTE-compatible phones over to them (as long as they support LTE only). I don’t think that will happen until probably 2015 or so, but it shouldn’t be too much longer now.

        • They are looking at introducing LTE-only devices by early 2014 at the latest, since they expect to finish their LTE rollout mid-2013 then switch on VoLTE at the end of the year. At which point, they can begin shutting down the CDMA network and repurposing the spectrum to LTE-Advanced, or more LTE coverage, though they already said that extra bandwidth would likely come from their recently acquired AWS bands.

          • Yeah, I should have clarified that 2015 will probably be when other carriers will have LTE only devices as well (though I’m pretty sure T-Mo and Sprint will just be filling out their network at that piont).

      • LTE is a GSM based technology, once they have full LTE rollout and VoLTE, we should be able to see true carrier freedom.

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