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Judge Denies Samsung’s Request to Lift Ban on Galaxy Nexus

Not much else to say beyond what the title already says. According to Reuters, a judge denied Samsung’s request to have an import ban removed on the Galaxy Nexus that was handed down last week. This matches a similar ruling she made yesterday in regards to the Galaxy Tab 10.1.

It’s annoying, to say the least. And yes, feel free to be angry with Apple over being the worst patent troll in history. I fully understand that it is the patent system that is broken, but Apple is still choosing to play the game like a shady little <insert word>.

We do not know what the exact patent in question is, but All Things D is reporting that Google has a workaround software patch on the way.

Via:  Reuters

  • Sven Enterlein

    I honestly get the point of companies/people wanting to protect their IP. BUT: It should be reasonable (the patent itself) and everyone should try to discuss this matter outside of court without banning the product in question first.
    And what was that about Apple’s patent on “object oriented OS” on one of the iForums?!?!?

  • Havoc70

    I already have mine so F OFF Crapple@!

  • zer0ed77

    I still want the ultimate question answered… How can Apple claim patents on software they were not the creators of, but thefts of themselves. Money and popularity seem to rule all.

  • iamme

    this phone would be perfect if the battery lasted longer…otherwise i love it….iphones are for old people

  • So, Dailyfinance (no affiliation) just posted something we haven’t seen yet (or at least have confirmed):

    “Following the decision, Google has removed the Galaxy Nexus for sale
    from its Google Play store but has said it will begin shipping again
    next week after being updated to 4.1 Jelly Bean. A keyword to note in
    all of this is “preliminary,” as this ban is far from a permanent,
    finalized affair.”
    http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/07/04/apples-siri-helps-take-down-a-google-nexus/

    That’s right folks, Jelly Bean next week! …at least for the Google Play GSM version.

  • Gcurry

    I’d rather have a NO phone, than an Apple “smartie” phone, under Apple’s rules. Scr. U. Appl.

  • master94

    Just saw the video of the ruling on cnn. Why did the judge walk in talking on an iphone. If she uses apple she is biased against Samsung, they need a judge without a android or iphone to rule on this case.

  • Guest__Comment

    > fully understand that it is the patent system that is broken,
    > but Apple
    is still choosing to play the game like a shady little .

    Really? If you legally held a patent that was CLEARLY stolen by another company, you would NOT want the $40 million award?

    Remind me never to hire you in our legal department.

    • Wmsco51

      Clearly has not been justified

  • nk

    mm

  • wtfapple

    so if some one can respond to this so why can i still buy a galxy nexus in the U,S at a store when their is a banned on them. yet nobody at the stores even know about this

    • LionStone

      Because there isn’t a ban on devices already on (VZ) shelves.

  • wtfapple

    ok so their is a banned on them but i can still go to the store n still buy one

  • LionStone

    I wonder how many millions/billions? of dollars apple has spent taking competitve companies to court? I know one recent case they spent/lost 600 million dollars!! Just imagine the “magic” they ‘could’ have created?

  • wmsco51
  • NetworkNerd

    Be sure to read the full post. Amusing.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_H._Koh

  • PC_Tool

    2012 and we’re still seeing comments like this?

    Evolution has obviously failed you…

  • yellowcanary73

    If Google or Samsung had any way to sue someone they would be doing the same thing and everyone would be saying it is OK.

    • Yeah, because the would reach a compromise i.e.cross licencing etc, not try to force them out of the market. See the difference?

  • gray

    I tend to think that the whole apple concept tends to kill innovation in anyway possible. Whether it be in their tamper proof machines, or the courts. The less competition the better. I won’t have an apple machine of any kind in the house.

  • Buckoman

    Although it might not happen, am I the only one who wants Google to sue Apple over the notification bar?

    And does Google own a patent for an omni search bar?

    • MooleyBooleyTroll

      It’s open source.

  • If you haven’t seen this yet, check out Sascha’s Rant video on this subject… great video with specific references to each of the four patents:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omzKvrZhY-o&feature=player_embedded

    • jonny6pak

      Awesome. Kellex should post this one on the front page. This is great! Thanks for sharing.

    • NeedName

      Great video/rant!

  • Knlegend1

    They are probalby sueing over “notification pull-down” O_o !!!!

  • Stewie

    The issue here is that we allow the use of software patents period.
    They all should be removed, no software patents at all, it is that way outside the US from what I’ve read.
    The issue here is one of advantage, Crapple decided early on that this would be the best way to stifle innovation when they ran out of ideas to steal themselves.
    The ones they actually did create PLUS the ones they stole, or thought they could get, they took and obtained the patent on. And here we are.
    Smaller developers who had something that was done differently or better had not the money to fight such baseless claims by Crapple or any of the other manufacturers in court, and lost out.
    As to the pull down notifications, while Android may have had it before it was implemented in the iPhone, but it’s not who did it first, it’s WHO PATENTED it first that matters in a law case. then you add the “prior art” issue, which is what’s going on here, Sammy / Google will try to prove the existance of similar use BEFORE the patent was granted to Crapple.
    Confused? Sure, even the Judges are.
    Patent reform to include tighter reviews of what is allowable and not, including the removal of software patents will bring ALL of this to an end.
    Lastly, corporations/companies should not be able to hold patents – it should be the actual person/persons who developed the actual item being patented – some have said this would also work, because it would no longer be a company bringing suit, but those persons.
    sigh …

    • NeedName

      Software patents NEED TO DIE!

  • does it really matter? the gnex is 7 months old now ,you can buy one for a penny. its not relevent anymore

    • It does matter, because if Apple is successful, the ruling can lead to further injunctions and suits against Google.

    • jonny6pak

      While the case at hand only deals with the GNex, a negative ruling could set a precedent that negatively impacts other phones and manufacturers. If all phone manufacturers have to continually fight legal battles, or at a minimum patch and update software to get around the patents, then the cost of doing business goes up for everyone. That creates a disincentive for manufacturers and carriers to use Android. It could reasonably extend to user experience issues as well.

    • PC_Tool

      Not relevant?

      The first device with JellyBean…is not relevant…

      Wow. Cool story, bro.

  • MrEnglish

    Think I’ll sue Samsung for giving me a device that infringes on patents and got banned. I’d call a lawyer, but I’ll have to buy a new phone first. muha

  • MrEnglish

    We’re underground revolutionaries now. Woohoo.wav Oh well, court sees merit, there’s merit. It’ll play out in the end.

  • iKing_1

    “We have filed for over 200 patents for all of the inventions in the iPhone….AND WE INTEND TO PROTECT THEM.” —-Steve Jobs

    It’s not like they weren’t warned. They chose to call his bluff, and now the chickens have come home to roost…..period

    • HeartStrong07

      Will be interesting. I own a Galaxy Nexus, a MacBook Air and Ipad …. plan to sell the Air and Ipad to purchase a Galaxy Note 10.1 or Asus Transformer Prime Infinity… rightly, or wrongly … over time … no one likes a bully …

      • iKing_1

        You have every right to purchase whatever you want. But the notion that Apple, or any company for that matter, should just allow their patented IP to be infringed upon without consequence is absurd. As a publicly traded company it is their right and quite frankly their responsibility to protect their legally awarded patents, copyrights and trademarks. Apparently Google understands this well: http://news.cnet.com/Google-sues-Froogles.com/2100-1030_3-5676955.html

        The argument that patent litigation somehow threatens innovation and that Apple is afraid of competition is one if the most illogical arguments I’ve ever heard. If anything, patents PROTECT innovation because a company cannot just sit back, allow another company to do all the heavy lifting, invest in R&D, produce costly prototypes, and incur all of the expense that it takes to bring a product to market, and just steal it without consequence. Competition is healthy, but no company should be forced to compete against their own IP. And before you dismiss this as some Apple fanboy rant let me say for the record that this applies to everyone, including Apple. If it can be proven that Apple has infringed upon another company’s IP, then they should suffer the consequences. But the notion that a company is engaging in anti-competitive behavior because they’ve chosen to vigorously defend their IP is absurd

        • NeedName

          You are a shill for apple, clearly.

          Apple has a right to be *compensated* for any VALID patents that are used by another person/company.

          They do NOT have the right to ban competition. And before you think I’m an Android fanboy. . . realize this applies to everyone! And that’s why we see most every single company besides apple license their patents and not go around trying to increase market share via injunctions by the courts — pathetic. Absolutely pathetic! Apple has abused the patent systems & and is now abusing the court system. To think otherwise is absurd and an insult to logic!

          NOW, be gone shill!

          • iKing_1

            Your ignorance is showing….a company that is legally awarded a patent has been allowed to create a limited-time, LEGAL monopoly of the product or technology in question. That means they have the right to request an injunction upon any product that they feel infringes upon their patents, and they can not be forced to license their IP to competitors if they don’t want to. Anyone that knows Apple knows that they have never been interested in licensing their technology; product differentiation has always been their goal. Your logic is flawed: they are NOT trying to ban competition; they are simply saying compete all you want, but we are not going to allow you compete against us with our own patented technology….this, unlike your faulty logic, actually ENCOURAGES innovation bcuz you can’t just imitate, you have to innovate. This is the purpose of patents; do yourself a favor and get a clue….

          • HeartStrong07

            Not sure … your responses get to my point. I don’t deny Apple its rights, but the exercising of their rights – particularly when others in the marketplace do not appear to be as aggressive – may cost it goodwill and sales in the maketplace. Apple is not the only company that has smart people working for it; however, it does appear they have gone patent trolling … why? Is the emergence of Android truly based on the patents that have been enforced? I might side with Apple, if they were going after Android companies regarding something Apple uniquely created and was core to their very own products. I am not seeing this right as their motivation.

          • iKing_1

            All you have to do is look at Android pre-iPhone, and then Android post-iPhone to discover Apple’s motivation. I’m not a software engineer so I don’t claim to know all of the ins and outs of software patents but Apple clearly feels that Google has lifted various important parts of their patented IP and included them in Android. And what’s worse, they have delivered this IP to Apple’s competitors FREE OF CHARGE, drastically reducing the barrier of entry of said competitors and greatly increasing their profit potential. Imagine if you spent 2 1/2 years incurring the expense of bringing a product to market, someone comes along and infringes upon it, and then gives the technology away to your competitors for free. That to me seems like proper motivation….

          • NeedName

            My ignorance. . . yeah. . .

            You just opened your mouth and inserted your foot.

            An “awarded patent” does not equal a “valid patent.”

            As the UK high court just demonstrated – 3 out of 4 of apple’s “awarded patents” were deemed invalid. In Germany 9 out of 10 of apple’s “awarded patents” were deemed invalid.

            Finally, you clearly know nothing about the US legal system, US law, and how they derive form the individual citizen. . . whom these laws exist to benefit — patents are granted for ultimate “good of the people” not the good of a company or individual, all US law extends from the people and is therefore bo “benefit the people” as a whole.

            Your fanboy is showing. . . rationalize whatever you need to. The only thing apple is trying to do in these cases is *ban competition* — clearly evident in the Posner decision, Apple Vs Motorola.

            It’s pointless talking to apple fanbois like yourself. . . you will rationalize anything and everything to justify your beloved savior’s actions. You all need to wake the hell up!

    • NeedName

      The patent system, at least in the US, is there to *create competition* — to provide more goods for the public — not hinder competition. That’s why they are published publicly. . . so everyone can use them. A patent holder has a right to *compensation* for their patent. . . not to use said patent in anti-competitive ways. Just because apple has gotten to people in CA to give them an injunction does not in the least mean what is going on here is anywhere near correct.

      so move on shill!

    • Wmsco51

      pencil down drawings are not technology

  • Apple are the biggest hypocrites on the planet. The last 2 iOS updates have been blatantly ripping off native Android features and iOS 6 will be no different. Next thing you know Apple will be allowed to patent pull down menus and multitasking.

  • I got the last one in stock yesterday! F u patent troll! I feel like a powerful man having bought illegal merchandise.

  • Guys, complaining here is not enough. Let’s write to the patent office and express our real anger of how awful they did on their jobs. Let’s write to judge and express how we feel she’s destroying the competitiveness of the mobile industry. We need some people with influence in the Android community to lead us. May be the top tier Android related blogs can join force and lead us.

  • NorCalGuy

    The play store online says that the HSPA+ version is coming soon with 4.1 jelly bean i wonder if this will be the update that patches what ever needs to be fixed on the phone, i mean i should not be that hard to push the JB update to that model seeing as the nexus 7 nandroid was ready for the HSPA+ and LTE versions in a matter of hours. I know a nandroid is not the same as built from source but hopefully they push the update and they get back to selling the nexus!

  • GPDX

    I had read an article somewhere the one of the patents in dispute might have to do with the slide to unlock feature. I thought that feature was annoying anyway and disabled it on my G-Nex. These patent wars are really getting stupid.

  • Apple probably payed the judge.

  • The patent in question is the Google search bar on top that searches everything locally too. The update will remove that feature for all nexus owners. I use that feature a lot so I’m not updating

  • CHRIS42060
  • EC8CH

    Doesn’t matter… still having G-Nex.

  • michael clanton

    i wonder if this biased author of this post would feel the same way if it was the other way around, ive never seen any of you or this author of this post say anything about android OEMs and Google suing using SEP. Android is a stolen product, almost everyone pays microsoft per phone, losing judgements, even with MOTO patents google is still weak.

  • Let’s be honest here, the Galaxy Nexus is a somewhat old phone now, and the radios suck. The Galaxy S3 is going to be the new top dog now anyway, since its going to come with the specs the GNex should have had.

  • Brik

    I wonder how much of Google Now will be crippled by this. Seriously, no more people, messaging, apps, music, and video search results? Wth man?

  • I don’t fully understand the import ban, but does this mean that you can’t buy the phone internationally and get it shipped to the states? I’d appreciate a non-douchey answer please.

  • Pete

    Bet the judge has an iPhone.

  • Android

    Billions spent in litagation zero spent in innovation

  • reyalP

    If the ban become permanent will this have an effect on future updates (Jelly Bean)?

  • Walmes27

    so is it banned for life? or just for now?

  • AndrewScottRox

    I’m curious. If your phone is insured with Asurion Insurance, how would they handle a lost or broken GNex?

    • tyguy829

      they just cant import any more gnexes into the us…

  • EvanTheGamer

    It’s an f’n conspiracy is what it is!

    • NeedName

      In the US we call it lobbying. Crapple has paid a lot of lobbyists. . .and I’m sure they’ve said a lot to the politicians in Cali who in turn said a few things to a few judges. . . etc. . .

      USA. . . corporate owned since 1913!

  • Q

    Sigh.. I guess Droid doesnt do this anymore ..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMElOHEwfUA

    How could Samsung lose this argument? Android’s unified search has existed forever.. before Apple even conceived of buying Siri.

    • NeedName

      They haven’t “lost” yet. This is a *preliminary* injunction. The court decided that Android *might* infringe said patent and that apple *might* lose market share *if* that is the case.

      This is nothing more than the CA court system helping apple attempt to increase its market share by *temporarily* banning a device and setting a court date so far in the future that it effectively kills the device.

      If Google is able to make a work-around already it goes to show that an injunction should NEVER have been issued because the only possible damages crapple could receive is “the cost of the work-around.” This is why Judge Posner ruled the way he did in Apple Vs Motorola the other week. . . but now we see the Cali courts pulling some total BS in favor of crapple.

  • EvanTheGamer

    EXACTLY!

    • michael arazan

      The Judge probably had stock in apple. or at least does now.

      • Nobody

        And an iPhone in her pocket.

      • So you’re basically saying that she was bribed by Apple?

        How about you report this to authorities?

  • All in favor of joining Me in going to Apple’s evil lair and taking it down once and for all say I, or forever loose your Galaxy Nexus.

  • feztheforeigner

    I just checked to see if the Nexus is indeed banned…

    The HSPA Galaxy Nexus is no longer available in the Google Play Store:
    https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa

    However, it appears you can still buy the CDMA version from Verizon:
    http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=5801

    • Mack

      As a matter of fact, a buddy of mine finally got around to buying a new phone and got a Galaxy Nexus as per my recommendation and his own playing around with it. He bought it today, at our local Verizon store. Yeaah. ;]

      • sucks u cant get an unlocked gsm one tho straight from google anymore…

  • EvanTheGamer

    A shady f’n bit*h!”” is more like it.

  • Q

    Im depressed.. I feel like the King in LOTR during that seige..
    “What can men do against such reckless hate?”

  • Unfortunately, apple pissing off the tech community (whether they’re pro-android or not) will have little to no effect to the general public who are the ones purchasing iOS products int eh first place.

    dont get me wrong, im all for the #boycottapple movement at the moment, but its not gonna slow down their bottom line.

    just a sad situation for everyone involved.

  • What am I missing here? It seems you can still purchase the GNex on VerizonWireless.com (it’s actually on sale right now). So, does the ban impact new imports of the device to the US?

  • chright

    I thought Apple was an Asian company:-P

    • Mack

      Nah Apple’s products are just manufactured over there.

      • michael arazan

        Made in china, apple manufacturing plant and dormitory, for their (slaves) workers, had to put up netting around the buildings because people were trying to jump off the buildings to kill themselves.

  • Tweekex

    Just read the bio on the judge. Amazing where little brains and a lot of money can get you.

  • imnotmikal

    Doesn’t Samsung manufacture a large quantity of Apple’s components? Why are they not killing the beast at its roots?

    • tyguy829

      because doesn’t samsung get a huge percentage of its revenue from manufacturing a large quantity of Apple’s components? Unfortunately it’s a vicious circle where one can’t survive without the other.

  • petrochemicals

    In other news, multi-billion dollar corporations successfully pay off American judges to do their bidding.

  • bogy25

    I hope Sammy and Google learn from all of this – shut apple down with parts – patent everything and watch them die slowly. Oh, and my usual post …. FU apple!!!

  • cgalyon

    Apparently it’s the unified search function. I don’t understand how Apple could patent that as, last I saw, Palm was the first to implement such a feature in the Pre. Nevertheless, the resulting patch is pretty awful. Google will reportedly be restricting the search bar to only return results from the internet and not the phone itself. That means no contacts, emails, or apps will show up in the search results. For a smartphone, that’s pretty bad. This is based on information from Engadget and TheVerge.

    Edit: We need developers to grab the current search bar functionality, if possible, and save it so it can be patched back to all devices after the fact. Apple can sue Google and manufacturers, but cannot sue the after-market mod community (generally… they may try though).

    • So, thanks to this frivolous lawsuit, even those of us that bought the phone in 2011 will suffer a loss of functionality through the resulting patch. FU Apple indeed.

      • cgalyon

        Don’t accept that update and hope that the code for the original search function is available in the code repository. If developers can keep it alive, at least enthusiasts will maintain their phone’s functionality.

        • And I’m sure the devs will keep the functionality alive. It’s just ridiculous that we’re in this situation all because of Apple’s arrogance.

          • cgalyon

            I would say we’re in this situation because software patents are permitted. This particular bit of code is obvious, intuitive, and logical. I’ve created similar search functions on the fly because it solved a particular problem. This never should have been patented, but that’s the case with many (if not most) software patents. Solving problems is a natural part of software development. Hell, it’s THE objective of software development! Similar solutions WILL crop up. Anyway, enough ranting about software patents… but I think that’s the main problem here and Apple is simply exploiting it.

          • iKing_1

            No, you’re in this situation because of Google’s arrogance. Steve Jobs issued a very clear warning when he introduced the iPhone in 2007 that they were going to vigorously protect their IP. It was arrogant to ignore that warning and infringe anyway….they have no one to blame but themselves

          • …speaking of arrogance.

          • As long as IP means intellectual Patents… not property. So you’re saying it’s Google’s fault for using unpatented technology for years before Apple, not patenting it and allowing Apple to get the patent on pre-existing software technology?

            “Good artists copy, great artists steal. And we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas” – Steve Jobs
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omzKvrZhY-o&feature=player_detailpage#t=215s

          • iKing_1

            Regardless of how you or I feel about the validity of software patents or the patent system in general (which I agree needs a major overhaul), the issue is that they were obtained legally and therefore Apple owns them. If I purchase from the government a piece of land that was previously used by the public, that land is now privately owned. That means as its owner I have the right to put up a “No Trespassing” sign on the land, regardless of who previously had access to it. It is the height of arrogance to clearly see the “No Trespassing” sign and then make the decision that you are going to trespass anyway. Google saw the sign; they decided to trespass anyway. They have no one to blame but themselves…

          • Google has been using at least two of the patents, Unified search and slide to unlock, since Before Apple was granted the patent! As well as other companies since the early 90s… sure Apple is legal, but Google is certainly not to blame for their finding the loophole in the system.

            The issues is not whether Apple is following the law. It is that they are a bully in their own industry, convincing the public to believe they are defending their own IP when in fact they are the aggressor starting an unnecessary fight. And in this case, against the Galaxy Nexus which is one device whose market share pales in comparison to the iPhone.

            Apple is ruthless, and Judge Koh should have been more informed by Samsung’s lawyers.

          • iKing_1

            Do me a favor…read this article and explain to me how Google’s actions are in principle any different from Apple’s:
            http://news.cnet.com/Google-sues-Froogles.com/2100-1030_3-5676955.html

        • My thoughts exactly. Here’s a call to XDA-devs and Rootz-wiki. Save/release it as a root/non-root app/widget. Not CM9/AOKP ROM exclusive thingy.

          And another call to Anonymous maybe. Down with Apple.

      • This… this is what I’m afraid of. Why do existing owners have to suffer for this? The ban is on further sell of the phone, right? What’s Apple gonna gain from degrading phones already sold?

        Second question – Google is going to push the patch OTA? To all existing GNex phones? F*k, I won’t accept the patch. I can do that right? Just like I’m not taking the update of the Verizon app from Play store which strips off the data usage widget.

        Third – what about Google Now on JB? That’s also universal search. That’ll also be shelved?

    • RoninX

      Or get the code and repackage it as a widget. That way you could preserve that functionality even if you choose not to root your Nexus.

      • nwd1911

        I don’t know if this is possible, but YES YES YES!!!!

    • 4n1m4L

      +10 internets

  • Demonhunter

    Google should disable Apple products from using their search engine on every device Apple produces.

    • That would just encourage iPhone users to leave gmail and move to @me.com accounts or other non Google services… Google needs them even if they’re on iOS.

  • Geekout

    what the heck is unified search or whatever the patent is?

    • It’s likely the unified search… see comments above

  • Apple needs to stop this crap and try to make products that work better than Android. Oh wait they can’t, my Macbook that I bought during the Vista era died a week ago and after spending $20 for a boot disk I already had and going through the horrible disk utility it’s still dead. I hate Apple, I hate their products and I hate that their trying to kill Android with dirty tricks.

  • nsauce7
    • moelsen8

      Great if it ends this debacle. But really crappy for the future of android. Or does this solely just pertain to this device? Either way, real d*ck move apple is pulling here.

    • And Verizon Sometime this fall lmfao!

  • she must have an iphone 5….shes a tester…

  • rocketdaddy

    Maybe that workaround patch will be a healthy dose of Jelly Bean!

  • rdoib

    Samsung should rename itself samestuff

    • FknTwizted

      Sounds silly but, the s3 does look a smidgen like a iPhone. Would like to see a more unique design.

      • GalaxyNote!!

        If u really look at all Samsung Gallaxy line they all look like a iphone in some shape or form.. if samsung wouldnt try and copy apple so much they wouldnt be in this position.. this coming from a guy that own a Galaxy Note

  • Balthazar B

    As I mentioned over on G+ (https://plus.google.com/u/0/108614876585972873848/posts/3hy1ad4Zto6), I wish someone would broker a meeting between Lucy Koh and Richard Posner. I’d love to hear her try to convince Posner that the piddly (and specious) software patents that Apple is touting are worth more than a dab of warm spit.

  • nightscout13

    Oh well, the GS3 will outsell the G nexus anyway…

    • SirSoloDolo

      Obviously but GNEX is what they make Upgrades on that eventually will get to the SIII. Don’t be so quick to bite the hand that feeds

      • nightscout13

        I think Samsung already sold all the Gnex that they wanted to. The phone’s been out for close to a year. If any developers will be using this phone, they already have it. (P.S. i own a Verizon Gnex)

  • Gf1 fanatic

    How much in legal fees is being wasted on this insanity?

    • riteshk

      Couple hundred million.. that’s all.. Who cares if that money could have been used to spur development or fund an independent research project? Those kind of things do not exist in Apple land.. frivolous, anti-competitive lawsuits and almost every other kind of immoral practices do.

    • FknTwizted

      Enough to make the sellers say that Samsung will be $299.99 instead of $199.99 lol

  • 1MPR0BUS

    Hopefully Google will hold up their end of the bargain and step in. The trial isn’t set until 2014 I believe so something needs to be done soon. All Apple wants is their licensing fee. Without Jobs around they lost their creative direction and with the way Samsung has been crushing sales Apple needs to do anything they can to get income. This all comes down to licensing fees unfortunately. All I can hope for is when Apple’s contract renewal for Samsung parts for their iDevices comes up they stick it to them and increase the cost to cover the licensing fees. Oh and I believe the term you are looking for in the quote “shady little ” That word would be punt with a c.

    • I don’t think that they want their fees… They just want to keep their competition down. You know Jobs wanted to destroy Android…

      • 1MPR0BUS

        I dunno to me it seems like Apple is going down the Microsoft route and bullying people into paying them for patent fees. Why destroy the opposition when you can make money off of products that cost you nothing?

      • CHRIS42060

        I would agree. More than likely Apple is trying to create a Monopoly through Patent Trolling.

    • Azn_Android

      LOL. This comment made my day.

      Alright bud, has Apple lost their creative side? Somewhat, yes. They may not be innovating as they used to, but they’re still continuing to push as witnessed with the newly announced Macbook Pro. They are lagging on the phone hardware and OS but they continue to have polished products. But overall I agree, Apple doesn’t have their creative touch anymore.

      Now onto the part that I had a problem with. “Apple needs to do anything they can to get income” LOL that’s hilarious. Like, really funny. Are worldwide Samsung phone sales surpassing the iPhone? Maybe, probably. But do you honestly believe that they are surpassing Apple in profit?! Have you been listening to their quarterly earnings calls at all? Apple’s iPhone alone probably generates more revenue than all of Samsung’s products put together. The reality is, Apple is the richest company in the world. Money is not much of a concern for them. What concerns Apple is the “copying” that they apparently Android committing. I believe you’ve heard the term “thermonuclear war” before.

      My point is, Apple is patent trolling because they think their IP is being stolen. Getting a licensing fee is NOT a concern. That’s Microsoft’s job.

      Before anyone thinks I’m some iFan or something, keep in mind I own a Galaxy Nexus and do not plan on switching back to iOS. I’m just giving him the reality of the situation.

      • 1MPR0BUS

        Does Apple really better themselves by banning a device that they could receive licensing costs per unit ? No they don’t. Why would you pass up on an opportunity to make money off a device you have none of your own money invested in? If we are talking money the smart thing to do is license that patent and collect the millions from Samsung for it. Not to ban it because Apple thinks their Intellectual Property is stolen. As for the income statement, that is rooted in my personal belief without Job’s leadership that 100 Billion in cash they have might disappear quickly, so they aren’t going to pass up chances to make money. These are businesses they are in it to make money not to compare epeen sizes. On top of all this we know Apple is contracting Samsung to make parts for their products and more than likely Samsung owns the patents to that manufacturing process. This dispute could easily cause both companies to tread lightly. Apple needs Samsung to manufacture processors and RETINA displays and Samsung needs that revenue. Its a two way street, while Apple has monetary precedence now it may be irrelevant when the iPhone 6 is coming out and Samsung decides its time for a price hike on the manufacturing side of the house.

        • Azn_Android

          If you listened to Tim Cook’s interview at All Things D and everything we have heard about Steve Jobs, you would understand why your logic is flawed. Yes, more money is great to have. Is it the prime reason? No. Tim Cook explicitly stated that he would not like to have to sue companies. What is he implying? That they will continue to protect their IP. As in, they will only sue if they feel the need to. As for the income, I’d like to just point you to the past 2 quarterly earnings calls.

        • FknTwizted

          Pandora’s box.

      • FknTwizted

        He is correct as much as we all despise apple they have to keep what is theirs theirs. Let me put it this way…. you invent X and you patent it, then I come over and see your invention and copy it and make a profit otherwise you would have made if I didn’t steal the idea. You would be pissed right? Same thing going on here, whether you like it or not if they have a legitimate claim to it they have to fight or else everybody would make a iPhone.

        My peace said LONG LIVE THE NEXUS PROJECT!!!

        • Tyler Chappell

          Except the fact that if that have had this patent for as long as they have, why didnt they go after earlier android devices that included this feature? hmm? Because in the beginning, Android wasnt much competition for them, but now that Android has essentially surpassed iOS in every conceivable way except timely updates across all devices, they’re totally desperate. Actual intelligent people know that Apple really has nothing to offer. It’s a shame too many people are duped into Apple’s lies and delusions.

    • CIFchamp24

      The funny thing is that you think apple needs that cash. They have plenty. They just want to bring down their competition. Which may seem dumb to most of us, but if Sammy got this ban on the iPhone everyone would be cheering. It’s just part of the game

  • jandrewcol

    What would the world be like if Ford had decided to patent a steering wheel? How about the person who decided shoes should have laces? This is pure crap…

    • Bob Martin

      Imagine a world where there was a patent on slide to unlock. you wouldn’t even be able to lock your own house anymore which people have been doing for years. Oh wait! somehow Apple has been granted that patent.

    • CampyGuy

      Actually, that belonged to Rudy Scheibert in 1914. Ford holds some of the latest patents related to steering wheels. So, what else have you got?

  • technomandfw

    This judge is a complete moron.

    • ^^^This

      • nightscout13

        Ditto

    • 1MPR0BUS

      I bet she has an iPhone…. bias much

    • bigdav1178

      Actually, I spent some time reading about this earlier today, and it seems that she was more or less following the judgement handed to her from the appeals court. That being said, the appeals court judgement read like it was written by an Apple lawyer, so if they aren’t on the take, they’re definitely technically incompetent. I’d be more willing to believe the were “monetarily coerced” though.

      • NeedName

        Exactly. . . I read the same thing. They kicked it back to her and basically said, side with apple!

        My guess is, apple pulled a lot of strings in Cali — after all if they can use the police as their own security there then I’m sure they can manipulate the courts as well. Samsung won’t get a fair trial in that state and they need to get it moved out of there as quickly as possible.

    • b00sted

      how much you wanna bet they own a iPhone as well

      • EvanTheGamer

        Obviously Apple paid that bi*ch judge off.

      • CHRIS42060

        More like owns Apple stock!

        • You should report her to authorities then?

          Since you clearly have evidence and all, and being the true patent expert you are you must be able to easily prove this case was rigged.

    • bob martin

      Show me a judge that isn’t a moron and I will show you a liar.

      • sc4fpse

        Judge in the Oracle v. Google case. Smart judge who actually knew a bit about code.

        • droidman101

          Except that was a jury case.

      • I wish people weren’t so sheep-y.

        Not a single commenter on this site would ever imagine that an Android vendor might actually have violated an actually issued patent. Everyone is a patent expert and has evidence to complete innocence of Google, Samsung, et al. in every single patent case.

    • Judge, your courtroom looks an awful lot like a kitchen.

    • Daniel Ansay

      damn right.,.

    • You’re saying that because you’re

      1. An expert in patents;
      2. Perfectly and 100% sure that her decision is wrong, and you can present evidence for that.

      Right?

    • Guest__Comment

      > This judge is a complete moron.

      The judge caused this patent to be legally awarded?
      The judge caused the Nexus to steal a patented design?
      The judge caused Apple to defend the patent they legal own?

      *PLEASE* never serve on judge duty.

  • Liderc

    Anyone else feel a little more bad ass knowing that the phone in their pocket is now banned?

    • captain stupid

      Now would be a good time to sell your Nexus on ebay. You can probably get like $5000 for it. since soon it wont be available anywhere else

      • Azn_Android

        Uhh… you do realize Google is most likely preparing a software update to get rid of whatever issue Apple has, right?

        The Nexus is not going to be banned.

        • sc4fpse

          WHOOSH.

        • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

          It just got banned buddy. Read the article

          • Azn_Android

            Uhh, yes, but this does not happen immediately. They have atleast a good month before any of this actually takes effect.

          • feztheforeigner

            Actually I just checked. The HSPA Galaxy Nexus is no longer available in the Google Play Store…
            https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa

            However, it appears you can still buy the CDMA version from Verizon…
            http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=5801

          • seebrock

            I read that the patent is that google search can’t be allowed to search anything but the internet. So any internal searching is what they removing. Verizon’s version is probably not expected to get the new google search anytime soon so they left it

          • “We do not know what the exact patent in question is, but All Things D is reporting that Google has a workaround software patch on the way.” So Azn_Android is kinda on the right track.

          • DaveTea

            The prior poster was correct, Google is cooking up a software patch that disables the offending features.

          • Guess what. They’re sending an OTA update so all existing and unopened boxes get a patch fix so it won’t be banned.

        • Yes but it will take Verizon 6 months to update our phones!

        • smeagol

          Either way, people will still buy it for above the usual sale price, evidenced by that guy who spent $2000 on a 2 week early Nexus 7

          • 4n1m4L

            I have a suspicion that the person just accidently entered an extra zero, and the seller saw this, and used an alternate account to bump the actual bid up that high.

          • actually im guessing that was an apple employee and now they can find a way to continue their patent trolling.

      • Just what I was thinking. Could be considered a contraband item.

      • EvanTheGamer

        Why would you even do that? Where’s your loyalty?

        • Sp4rxx

          If I owned a Nexus and I knew I could get $5k for it, HELL YA I would sell it. Where else are you guaranteed that kind of cash that quickly – it’s just a phone, but when someone is willing to pay it, I will sell it!

          • EvanTheGamer

            Yep, no loyalty. lol.

            But regardless, I don’t think anyone is dumb enough to pay $5k for a year old phone.

        • Guest__Comment

          > Where’s your loyalty?

          You should be “loyal” forever to a device you don’t like… and don’t want???

    • EvanTheGamer

      Yes. I almost want to walk into an Apple store and start waving my G-Nex about, taunting them sons of bit*ches. “Hey, look at me, I have a Galaxy Nexus. What you gonna do about it @$$holes?” Then as I walk out, I’d say, “Android FTW! Apple can SUCK IT!”

      • CampyGuy

        I have a GNex and a 4S. One word comes to mind – “yikes”. I’d pretty much tell you to get help, and leave my GNex in my pocket since I wouldn’t want to be associated with a tool without a clue. It’s a phone, just a phone…

        • Liderc

          Apparently you lack the intelligence to detect sarcasm. Instead of insulting me, you made yourself look like an idiot.

          Well done.

          • EvanTheGamer

            I think he was actually referring to my comment…lol.

            But yes, that “Campy” dude doesn’t have the intelligence to detect sarcasm. Seriously, what a……..troll. Go away troll, we don’t need nor want your kind here.

      • KleenDroid

        Seeing and hearing that there is an unstable person in the area and not knowing what’s going to happen next I would secure my personal defense option and size up the situation and what happens next. With a bit of luck you will feel happy that you impressed everyone and that would be it. But if you try and press your phone up against mine and try to beam something to me things may get out of hand.

        • EvanTheGamer

          What in the hell are you even talking about? You lost me at “unstable person in the area…”. lol

          Attention folks: I was not being serious. Thank you. That is all.

          Although I wish I could do what I said; I’d flaunt my Galaxy Nexus like it’s the last phone on Earth.

          • KleenDroid

            Don’t be silly. If you read my response you should be able to tell I also was not being serious.That is all… 🙂

    • Jarred Sutherland

      Not really, it’s just a phone. However, I have felt angry enough about this nonsense that my new iPad is up on eBay and will sell within 5 days. I will not purchase another Apple product while nonsense like this continues. The “patents” they pulled this off with should have never been granted in the first place. Apple is pathetic.

      • MrEnglish

        Might as well stop buying anything then, because many companies have their sue time, publicized or not.

        • NeedName

          Many companies sue over *reasonable* issues. Apple isn’t going for reasonable, as Judge Posner pointed out. Apple just wants the courts to help them increase their market share because they can’t do it through competition via their products.

          They have spammed all patent offices with any type of patent they can — for crying out loud the iphone design patent includes designs of Nokia & BB devices. At this point they are THE ‘patent trolling fruit company’!

          And let us NOT forget that this is THE company that has stolen a ton of IP form others that has made the company — just because software patents weren’t allowed then doesn’t make what they are doing now right and just.

      • Guest__Comment

        > The “patents” they pulled this off with should have
        > never been granted in the first place

        The patents *WERE* legally granted. How is that Apple’s fault????

        Boycott the patent office, not the companies that legally get the patents they apply for…. and were awarded.

        • Jon Gee

          Yes, they were legally granted from what I read are so broad that they can apply to a LOT of things. The patent system is broken. No one denies that. However, it is Apple that is choosing to be a bully about it. And they are being the worst kind of bully. They are after Google over Android but instead of attacking them directly are going after the OEM that makes their flagship device. It’s their legal right to do so and OUR right as consumers to not reward a company that we feel is being a s**t.

    • lasthought

      lmaoo!! came here to say i feel a little bit more b.a. now. ahaha

  • CollinR4

    Any idea when Google is going to respond over the notification bar? I think they need to not sit by idly and let their manufacturers keep taking hits like this…Just my 2 cents.

    • Does google have precedent to sue over the case of iOS Notification Bar

    • Azn_Android

      Android is open source. They can’t patent something they have on open source software.

      • Timothy McGovern

        incorrect

    • NeedName

      Don’t believe the patent has been awarded yet.

  • MandaGlamour

    I’m not sure how they are enforcing (of if they are) because I bought a Galaxy Nexus from Verizon today. Wonderful phone, hope the drama ends.

    • Not sure that they can be pulled from store shelves, just can’t import future shipments.

      • user311

        This is true, they can only stop further manufacturer orders from being placed. Any orders that were placed where funds have traded hands, (ie supplier to best-buy/verizon/google play) are cleared for sale. This feels like its just about time for google to release a new nexus device!!!

  • davetheAndroid

    shady little BITCH

  • D

    anyone know why comments wont load on my android phone when I try to view this page in my browser? I am using Opera Mobile. I am able to see the comments when I use my laptop/desktop. Thanks

  • sdny8

    So if I have a problem with my Bluetooth cutting in and out. Can verigreedy give me a new gnex??

    • user311

      Yeah, if its past 30 days you’re probably going to get a refurb anyways and they should have those in stock.

  • dereknmsu

    Makes me wonder if the judge is an iphone user

    • Apple=Stupid

      True enough. Also need to check to see if this idiot judge may own some undisclosed Apple stock. Wouldn’t be surprised considering the apparent fervor this judge is displaying to insure that the Apple “dynasty” is preserved.

  • Chris

    Does anyone know WHICH patent the Nexus is violating?

    • FknTwizted

      The patent for being too awesome!

  • Apple sucks. Nuff said.

  • kevinc

    so what patent are they infringing on again?

    • nsnsmj

      Something related to unified search and whatnot.

  • Gf1 fanatic

    FU Apple

  • It’s because Siri is feeling a bit insecure right now 🙂