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  • I wouldn’t put it past Google to pass off the Scapped Pixel 4aXL as the New Pixel 5XL only difference being this Pixel 5XL will have a glass back instead of being plastic. I actually would like Google to bring back the fingerprint sensor on Pixel 5Xl but wish they would update the design.

  • Idk but if they get rid this face unlocked technology I’m going to get the I phone the next time I need to get a smart phone I can’t go back to having a fingerprint sensor lol..

  • smfh

    I actually like Face Unlock, Soli, and motion sense. Except for the fact that it is underused

    There’s so much that is wrong with this if this is actually the P5, doesn’t make sense to me. Really hope this is the 4a and not the 5

  • No way this is the Pixel 5. While I can buy into the fact that Google will kill Motion Sense. I don’t see them killing face unlock too.

    • I would love to see the Pixel 5 go back to having a fingerprint sensor but I don’t think Google would keep face unlock and get rid of motion sense. The Soli sensor is a pretty big part of face unlock. It makes face unlock much faster.

  • The 4a is still months from release. The 5 isn’t coming until 2021 most likely.

  • – “Google only included its radar motion gesture technology last year in the Pixel 4 and this may be a hint at Google already looking to sunset it.”

    I’m hoping that this means a true flagship Pixel Ultra is on tap and the Face Unlock and Soli features are being saved for that. Possibly a Pixel 6 Ultra with the reported Google first in house designed SoC built on Samsungs new 5nm EUV node. The Pixel 5/5XL are set to be premium mid-range phones so it does leave the door open for a flagship Pixel next year.

    • Add back unlimited 4k 60fps OG quality video (and photo} backup then I’m sold, I’ll stick with pixels again !!!

      • I don’t see that happening. 4k video and the huge storage demand it involves is probably the reason they ditched it. That said, I’d be happy if they just brought it back for photo’s again.

  • There’s only one thing that holds my interest with Pixels anymore –> Camera.

    That’s actually quite sad. I just don’t understand how Google “doesn’t get it” and keeps failing to release a solid flagship phone.

    Betting the 5 will still have small batteries, zoom lens with no wide angle and it won’t have an FPR (I’ll be shocked if they back pedal there) and 6gb ram. Seems like they might finally ditch 64gb though?

    At this point, I have little interest in any upcoming Pixel.

    • For me it’s all about software experience but I’m getting fed up with some of the hardware choices too.

      If fine with the no wide angle lens since I’d hardly ever use it anyway. I’d much more prefer the telephoto. Although both would be cool I guess.

      I don’t care about the 6GB RAM. It’s a Google phone not a Samsung phone. Even 4GB on my Pixel 2 XL is fine for most things. 6GB is plenty. I’m not switching between several high memory games so it’s not an issue.

      For me it’s about two things. 1. The tiny battery and 2. The lack of fingerprint sensor.

  • The bezels are symmetrical. That alone gives me reason to doubt this render lol.

  • Make it plastic, waterproof, have wireless charging, cost $700, and I will definitely wait for it to go on sale and pay $600 dollars for the XL.

    • No plastic or glass. I wish they would make it metal like the Pixel 2. Unfortunately people are obsessed with the wireless charging nonsense so no metal backs.

      • I’ve really enjoyed the plastic on the 3aXL. Feels just as nice as glass and metal and you don’t get the extra weight or the scratches.

        • I tested a Pixel 3a in a T-Mobile store shortly after it came out and I thought it felt cheap and flimsy just like most other plastic phones. The back had a hollow sound when I tapped on it and it flexed in when pressed lightly. It would also creak when twisted slightly. It reminded me of the cheap flimsy creaky feel of my Nexus 5 and Nexus 5X. My Pixel 2 XL is solid. It doesn’t sound hollow, the back cover has zero flex and it doesn’t creak. I’ve never had an issue with the weight (I actually prefer phones with a bit of “substance”) and the back doesn’t scratch easily at all. I did drop it once without the case on and some of the paint coating chipped off but that’s it.

          I have used solid plastic phones but not in a long time. The Nexus One was a very solid feeling phone. So was the HTC One X. I’d be fine with a plastic phone if it was like one of those old HTC ones.

          • We all have our preferences and opinions. I don’t bend or try to flex my phones but didn’t feel much when I did it right now, and enjoy the lighter feel. I immediately preferred the lighter 3aXL over the the heavier Pixel XL (the phone I was switching from). Also my toddler and I have dropped the 3a several times with no damage so it is pretty durable.

          • It’s not that I do bend or flex my phone a lot. I just use it as an indicator of material and build quality.

  • Give it a 3800-4000 mAh battery and I’m in. However, knowing Google it will be 3000 mAh.

    • A battery of 3800-4000 mAh is still too small. The Pixel 4 XL has a 3700mAh battery and e battery life is crap. With QHD resolution, 90hz display and 5G it needs to be like 5000mAh. Just look at the Galaxy S20 Ultra. That’s a QHD+ resolution, 120hz refresh and 5G and a 5000mAh battery and the battery life is just ok.

      • For the 5 XL, I’m with you 100%. I was referring to the non-XL as this appears to be the smaller model. A 3800 – 4000 mAh battery would be a huge improvement over the 2800 mAh one in the 4.

        • Oh, yeah, that’s true for the smaller model. Even a 3300mAh battery would have been ok for the smaller Pixel 4.

          It really sucks they 5.78″ would be considered the small one. I miss the days of the small one being like 5.2″.

    • I never thought the battery would be a deal breaker for me…..but it is. For me, I’m waiting for the 5XL and anything less than 4500mAh (I’d rather 4800mAh or higher) is a deal breaker and I’ll look at the Motorola Edge+ or the One Plus 8 Pro..

  • I’d wager this is just the cancelled 4a XL, and has nothing to do with the Pixel 5 at all.

  • I really hope this isn’t real. The chances of me buying the Pixel 5 were already low if it really does come with the SD 765 but a hole punch screen? That would be the final nail in the coffin.

    I’ve had Google phones for the last 7 years (Nexus 5, Nexus 5X and my Current Pixel 2 XL). I really like the stock Android software experience from Google but there is just too much to give up hardware wise to get it.

    Very disappointed in Google the last several years.

  • I am all for Google sticking with a consistent design language that evolves over time, rather than each year’s phone looking like they were designed by completely different companies (yes, i know they were designed by different companies)

  • Kinda excited to see that finger print scanner. Assuming this render is even legit…. Battery life MUST be great though, no exceptions. Might consider in the fall.

    • Don’t get your hopes up about great battery life. No Google phone has had great battery life.

        • I certainly wouldn’t go for the iPhone. I’m annoyed with Google but I definitely don’t want iOS. I’m thinking something like One Plus since it seems to be the closest to a stock Google software experience.

          • I just feel like Apple has been putting more effort into being more appealing lately. My current phone is the 1+6T. I believe 1+ has class leading software imo and hardware is great too but they’re too big. Also, don’t like the current generation having curved edges. Been debating for the last month if I should get a 1+7T to hold me for another 2+ years.

          • iOS 14 does have a few nice things they catch it up with Android but I’m still not a fan of iOS. How it looks, how it’s organized, etc.

            I think for Android the class leading software experience is from Google. Many software features I like (Call Screening, Now Playing and night shot just to name a few) are only in Pixel phones.

            Unfortunately Google has dropped the ball on hardware with tiny batteries, no fingerprint sensor and mid range chips for so called “flagship” phones.

            If they could just take the smaller Pixel 4 give it a SD 865, a fingerprint sensor and a 3500mAh+ battery and call it the Pixel 5 I’d be thrilled.

  • ya seems fake…. look at those symmetrical bezels… google would never lol…

  • No Solei sensor? Thank God. That’s the #1 reason I didn’t consider it. Give me a fingerprint sensor any day over face unlock.

    • I don’t like face unlock either but Soli can do so much more (look at some of the videos). I’d really like to see Google keep it and expand the functionality. The way it’s used on the Pixel 4 just scratches the surface of what it can do.

      • Leave it to Google to preview a potentially game-changing technology, release a gimmicky production version with almost no 3rd party support, only to abandon it a year or two down the road, and then see the same (or very similar) technology fully developed and supported on iPhone.

        • What indication do you have that Google actually is abandoning Soli? We don’t even know if this render is accurate. It could be the Pixel 4a or just a total fake. I don’t see Google abandoning face unlock and Soli hardware is a big part of that.

          • I have no hard evidence. But Google doesn’t exactly have the best track record of sticking with a product and seeing it through its fullest. Just look at all the apps in the Google graveyard. And remember the Nexus Q?

    • I’d actually be surprised if it was even that cheap. The smaller Pixel 4 is $800. Do you really think Google is going to take a profit cut? It easily could considering the huge markup but it probably won’t.

  • Looks like a decent buy when they offer $200 off on black Friday. Pixel camera and software, good-enough chipset plus all the other Pixel trimmings for $500 seems like a solid deal to me. Battery life and quality control will be the deal breakers in my mind, buy it would also need to be real special to make me want to move on from the s10e.

  • I’d bet this is just the cancelled Pixel 4a XL. Looks nice, but with those bezels and only a 2 camera set-up, this isn’t going to be the upcoming Pixel 5/5XL.
    That being said, I’d like something similar to this with a 3 camera set-up, 4000+ mAh battery, and a hole-punch or minimal top bezel. It’s going to have to be a solid phone to get me back to a Pixel after having the oneplus 7 Pro….I do miss the Pixel camera though.

      • You’re right, that’s interesting. Seems odd that a Pixel 5 would take a step down in screen size compared to the upcoming flagship, don’t you think? Especially given this has smaller bezels than the renders of the 4a I’ve seen. Either way, this seems like there are too many incongruencies with their upcoming and past phones to make it legit.

  • My guess is, the Pixel 4a is going to come out alongside the 5 and 5XL as a Pixel 5 lite or something along those lines.

  • I’m going to really miss my Pixel 3. The Pixel was one of the only phones left that did true front stereo sound. The bottom firing speaker that Apple and Samsung have always had is just a poor design choice. I’m glad they’re bringing back the rear fingerprint reader. I’m not all that impressed with the in-display of the S20.

    • My 20+ speakers are adequate for my needs, but I agree the in-display FP scanner is a step backwards. Give me a regular FP scanner mounted high-center on the back any day.

  • As long as it is not slower than the Pixel 4, I don’t mind the chipset choice. What I absolutely love is the return of the back finger print reader — let’s face it, facial unlock just doesn’t work under a pandermic when people are wearing masks.

  • With 5G and Wifi 6 support via the Snapdragon 765, this will replace my still excellent Pixel 2 XL.

    • I also currently have a Pixel 2 XL which is why the SD 765 is a deal breaker. It’s actually worse than the SD 835 in several ways and the ways the SD 765 is better are limited. The memory bandwidth of the SD 835 is DOUBLE that of the SD 765. Performance of the Pixel 5 isn’t going much better than the Pixel 2 if at all. Google is going to have to remove features that people liked from the Pixel 4 like live HDR mode in the camera and not add features that many people seem to want like 4K @ 60fps (which was only a software thing on the Pixel 4 but would be a hardware limitation on the Pixel 5)

      The fact that Google’s so called “flagship” phone is going to be a mid-range phone is a joke.

      Also, WiFi 6 and 5G are completely pointless.

      • I wouldn’t say WiFi6 and 5G are completely pointless. Many people keep their phone for well over a year. They may not have access to WiFi6 or 5G now, but they might before they are ready to buy another phone.

        • Wifi 6 and 5G aren’t pointless due to not having access to them. They are pointless because they don’t provide any real noticable benefits.

          I just did a speed test over WiFi and LTE on my Pixel 2 XL.

          Wifi: 328Mbps down and 12Mbps up. That was done downstairs from my modem and is limited by my home internet connection.

          LTE: 18Mbps down and 4Mbps up. That’s somewhat slow but that’s due to poor network coverage (and I’m not even in a rural area). The LTE technology can easily do much better than that. LTE has been around close to 10 years and there are still LOTS of areas where coverage is just awful. Leave the big cities and no carriers are very good. So if anything I think 5G is actually a bad thing. It’s going to take even longer to get to the coverage point we have now with LTE (which isn’t even very good) for speeds that don’t really give any benefit over LTE. Like every other new mobile technology 5G will start in the big cities where coverage is already great and super fast. The suburban areas will be mostly ignored until shortly before 6G comes out and we start all over again. Big cities will continue to be great and suburban areas will keep sucking. I’d rather see cell carriers ignore 5G and put all their efforts into filling the massive number of gaps in suburban areas (where more people actually live). Also, 5G is a MASSIVE battery drain. It’s even worse than what LTE was like 8 years ago.

      • The 835? Lol. It actually compares well to the 845. It should be fine I’m thinking. The 765G not only has 5G integrated it’s only 19% off in cpu performance from the flagship 845 chip found in the Pixel 3. Otherwise it actually bests the 845 in things like 5G, new AI capabilities, 7nm vs 10 nm build and better efficiency. Even things like a new ISP and new DSP are some features in Snapdragon 765G that are better than Snapdragon 845 simply because it’s a newer chip.

        From a recent review of Qualcomm’s latest chips;
        – “The Snapdragon 865 is the complete winner of the comparison, which is not a surprising thing. But what is surprising is the Snapdragon 765G which is even after being a mid-range processor, is capable of providing performance equivalent to Snapdragon 845. It is evident that it can’t perform as good as last year’s flagship but is almost equal to the second last year’s flagship chip. With the right sort of software optimizations and attention to experience, you are absolutely not going to notice or in any way be aware of the difference between a Snapdragon 865 processor — the top-tier chip of the moment — and the Snapdragon 765G. ”

        That and the Pixel 5/5XL as premium mid-range phones leaves the door wide open for a Pixel Ultra or Pro flagship next year. Hopefully with that reported Google first in house designed SoC built on Samsungs new 5nm EUV node. Fingers crossed ????

        • Better in some ways worse in others. The SD 835 has DOUBLE the memory bandwidth of the SD 765. That’s pretty big. Certainly enough to be noticable.

          One of the features I liked in the Pixel 4 was the live HDR view in the camera app. With the SD 765 that will be gone.

          One of the biggest complaints people had about the Pixel 4 is lack of 4K @ 60fps. For the Pixel 4 that was a software limitation that Google purposely put in place to “save storage”. A simple software update could remove that limitation. With the SD 765 4K @ 60fps would never be possible due to hardware limitation.

          And if you think a Pixel phone with a SD 765 instead of a SD 865 is going to mean a cheaper phone then prepare to be disappointed. The cost of the SD 865 compared to the SD 765 is about $20. No way is Google going to drop the price and take a cut in profit.

          Don’t hold your breath for a Pixel “ultra”. The same goes for Google’s in house designed SoC which has been rumored for years and never happened. I won’t take that seriously until I see an official announcement.

        • Also, the SD 845 is only about 20% better than the SD 835 so if the SD 845 is only 19% better than SD 765 that actually puts the SD 765 about equal to the SD 835.

          So basically a phone that doesn’t really perform any better than my Pixel 2 XL that I’ve had for over two and a half years for the same price.

          • Lmao! WOW! There’s literally a dozen or more articles from those who have actually tested and reviewed these chips that say you’re absolutely full of it. You can’t even get the pricing right as not only is the 765 considerably cheaper it also includes the 5G modem which is yet another additional expense for the 865 that doesn’t have one integrated. That combined with mid-range fingerprint in place of expensive Face Unlock/Soli tech and other cost saving decisions has a cheaper starting price expected for the Pixel 5 and a designation as a premium mid-range phone, not a flagship. Google even surveyed people to gauge interest in a $699 starting price already, did you miss that as well?

            I’m not sure what your deal is here and why you haven’t bothered to inform yourself. Perhaps you’re not interested in the facts and are just pursuing an anti-Google/Pixel agenda , in which case carry on. If not then search some comparison articles on Qualcomm’s chips and you’ll learn why the 765G has been so well received by those who know about the tech and have reviewed/tested them.

            The Pixel Ultra/Pro is indeed speculation at this point though but their first in house designed SoC has already been reported on. It’s a high end 5nm chip and Google has to put into something so why not an Ultra Pixel that would be Google’s new flagship model? Apple is doing phones in similar price ranges at $399, $699 and $999+ “Pro” models, same with Samsung so why not Google?

    • Agreed. My 2XL is still kicking, and I do NOT want to forego a finger print scanner with my next phone. If the 5XL matches this, I’ll be picking one up.

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