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Well, here is a bountiful leak on a Saturday night. Take a look at the Nexus 5 official service manual (LG-D821), which gives us just about every dirty detail you could ask for outside of a release date and price. We’ve included the 281-page document for you below in case you are at home tonight chillin’. We’re out and about, but will have more tomorrow. 

So far, we’ve got spec confirmations of:

  • 4.95″ 1080p display (IPS TFT for those interested)
  • 32GB internal storage (other capacities not specified)
  • 2GB RAM
  • MSM8974 aka Snapdragon 800 at 2.3GHz
  • 8MP OIS rear camera, 1.3MP front camera
  • 2300mAh battery
  • Sensors: Accelerometer, Gyroscope, Compass, Proximity/Ambient Light, Pressure
  • Slimport compatibility
  • Micro SIM slot
  • Notification light
  • Wireless charging
  • NFC
  • Bluetooth 3.0 (probably an error)
  • UMTS/GSM/CDMA/LTE compatibility

LG D821

Via:  @autoprime4g | Android Police

Cheers Raj, Ben, Derin, Scott, Tony, kitkat and everyone else who sent this in!

  • webone1

    Nice, that’s really handy, The next generation of touchless control
    http://mobileworldnewss.blogspot.com/2013/10/nexus-5.html

  • aDROIDfreeworld

    The LG-D821 is the international version – it is not relevant to us here in the USA.

    The models we need to be paying attention to are:

    LG-D820_s
    LG-D820_c

    They were certified at the FCC in early September, although details are difficult to find on them.

  • Jim

    I still am hoping that with Verizon switching to voice over LTE and the LTE band 4 being utilized for LTE advanced for Verizon, that is a sliver of hope the phone would work on Verizon.

  • elmatrix

    Hey, there is a new app called Nexus 5 hype that keep track of significant news and notifies you when the Nexus 5 is about to be launched

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oneweekcreations.nexus5hype

  • kkloster

    Anybody notice that this appears to be VoLTE ready (pp 26 & 27)? It also looks like it is exactly the same physical dimensions as the Nexus 4 (p 6). Gonna be some thin bezels I guess.

  • Tony Byatt

    LG has asked Android Police to take the images down…That sounds like a confirmation of accuracy…

  • RavnosCC

    To VZW or not to VZW? That is the question…

    • Adam Truelove

      I think we all know the answer.

      • RavnosCC

        I can still hope with blissful ignorance.

  • Bigwavedave25

    Hmm… what’s up with the final listed sensor “Pressure”?
    Is it merely for sensing touch on the screen, or for atmospheric, or could it be levels of pressure sensitivity as in a wacom digitizer of sorts (ala GN2/3)??? Too much to hope for the latter I guess…

    • Jackson

      Well seeing as the phone doesn’t have an ear piece it may have something to do with bone induction.

  • Guy Meatdrapes

    ….

  • Carlton Crasher

    My ported Google voice number being tethered to my siii…nexus on WiFi all the time…yeah carrying two phones but all I wear is cargo shorts

    • J2886M

      you sir , are a gentleman

  • Gregg

    This will be my next phone…replacing the Nexus 4. No other reason to upgrade other than I WANT.

  • shamatuu

    2300 battery is somewhat concerning. if it was 2600 it would better but at 2300 for a 1080 screen plus LTE on all the time just doesn’t sit right with me.

    • Dusty

      Def. agree with you but the moto x has a 2200mah battery. Hopefully the the s800 being “energy efficient” and all with software optimization can offset it and give moto x battery life at least =/ (wishful thinking).

  • philstx

    Late to the party, but it lists Bluetooth 3.0 and then also says “No” the feature “Bluetooth 4.0”. That makes me think it wasn’t an error… and that worries me…

  • ανώνυμος

    Time to switch to T-Mobile once N5 comes out!

  • aDROIDfreeworld

    Lowell McAdams will take an extra hour out of his day just to give Google a special courtesy phone call…

    Just to tell Larry that Verizon will sue Google for everything they’re worth if they even think of daring to attempt getting the new nexus phone on Verizon. He will cite the fact that “we let you have the moto x, and that is all you get!”

    Then Larry will say “it’s to late you big red pric. I’ve got the FCC, the Open handset alliance, and the ACLU banging on your door In an hour you greedy son-of-a-communist!!! You’re going to swallow the FREE Nexus in overnighting you tomorrow, or it will cost you more than you’re weekly Morton’s steak dinner. Ass hat!”

  • Ian

    DL: “…have more tomorrow.” NOT!

  • Bryan Moross

    Wireless charging!? NFC!? SOLD!!

  • BrothaDave

    really hype now, happy they decided to go with 32gb or storage and I hope they have a 64gb option also

  • This would be the perfect phone… if it had a bigger battery.

  • FuckingSDCardSlotsWereGenius

    I won’t be buying phones without expandable storage until they’re capable of at least 128GiB on-board memory.

    • Jackson

      What do you store on your phone?

      • Ian

        I bet he stores troll bait.

        • Jackson

          Yep gotta store that troll bait it comes in handy every now
          and then.

          I’m thinking we get an announcement this week of an invite any takers lol last year they announced it 12 days prior to the “event” that didn’t happen

          • Steve B

            Damn Sandy

  • MafiaMM

    Please don’t let this phone be more then $600…that would kill me

    • Steve B

      $349 and $399

  • Mando

    can someone give the rundown on what went wrong with the Gnexus on verizon two years ago that puts the nexus 5 on verizon on bad terms

    • Dusty

      Verizon release got delayed (arrived on verizon weeks if not months after everyone else got it) and updates weren’t like the nexus experience (got updates weeks if not months after everyone else). Simply put Verizon was last for everything and users didn’t get the nexus experience as expected.

  • guest

    oh look, another $600 phone

  • So it is the exact same dimensions as the N4 but 5″ 1080p screen, noice! You know what isn’t nice? Verizon, even if it comes to verizon it will be $599 off contract and $199 on contract and NOT sold through the play store for the $300 rumored price

  • Real Talk

    I hope it is cheap because it will be a paperweight when it can’t hold a decent charge after a few months.

  • Fadzil Mohd Ashari

    i feel like i already have it in my hands >.<

  • cns2007

    I’m surprised people aren’t talking more about the pressure sensor. That’s pretty interesting to me.

  • donkeykong85

    Is this phone coming to verizon? I know the answer but have been sworn to secrecy by google. All I can say is that is definitely a 50/50 chance.

    • jh123416

      wut.

    • Tim242

      You know the answer, but it’s definitely a 50/50 chance? Yeah, that made 0/0 sense.

  • Holy blazing fast processor batman! Quad core kraits at 2.3GHz with Adreno 330 and Qiuck Charge 2.0!!! I know the Moto X has shown we don’t need these specs to have a good device but dang, if the experience is even half as good as this thing sounds on paper then it should be phenomenal!

  • Carlton Crasher

    I’ve Found A Solution to my Verizon Nexus Woes…I’m going to use my Zerolemon 700Mah Galaxy SIII and port my number to google voice and start buying nexus phones by using my siii as a simultaneous backupphone/hotspot for my nexus…yeahhh…don’t say coverage isn’t everything….AT&T is ranked second in my area..and its still 2G

    • Steve B

      How are you going to make calls?

  • James Jenrette IV

    No, batteries cost nothing. There’s no excuse for anything less than 3000mah. 700mah difference costs pennies. That’s the single thing about this phone I’m sad they skimped on. However, I do think it will be more than enough to get through a full day of regular use, which is all I need.

    • Jeff

      Assuming a 3000mah battery and 2300mah battery are exactly the same size, then sure, otherwise maybe a larger battery wouldn’t fit in the phone. Of course, as far as any of us know, a 2300mah battery could be plenty for this phone, with all the new hardware and optimizations they say are in it.

      Maybe wait until the phone is out before complaining about things that no one except Google and LG themselves has tested.

    • Steve B

      What the F? You copied my post?

    • a3uge

      YEAH! 700mAh is PENNIES! Why stop there… how about a 4000mAh battery…. or a 9000mAh battery…. or even a 30,000mAh battery!?

  • MrOrange645

    Its tomorrow now.

  • TWISM

    This is interesting!!!! It says Verizon on the bottom.

    https://twitter.com/ich3tech/status/386694133471248385/photo/1

    • jh123416

      That rendering moves my hope to .5%

    • Godzilla

      That logo isn’t right. Photoshop

    • Steve B

      You are gullible.

  • abhele

    if its going to be same price as the nexus 4 launch , they should just raise it 50$ more and slap on their 3000mah battery

  • JoshHenry

    These nexus 5 leaks are out of control..

  • G2forVZWpeeps

    Verizon people need to relax. It’s likely not coming to Verizon, but the people acting like they’re in the know and throwing around phrases like “zero percent chance” don’t really know anything for certain either, just pretending to be important. But yes the safest assumption is that Verizon isn’t getting it based on what we’ve seen.

    With that said, you can basically still have this phone. With 700 extra milliamp hours, extra screen real estate, and a higher resolution camera. Go get the G2. I’m no developer but I have seen all kinds of crazy stuff ported to different devices that it was never originally meant for over the years, comparatively it should be fairly simple and easy once Nexus 5 source files are made available for a developer to port them over to another LG, 1080p, Snapdragon 800, 2g RAM, 32GB device. I’d be utterly astonished after what I’ve seen the development community do over the years if there turned out to be any real complication with getting Nexus stuff over onto the G2, aside from the fact that maybe not a lot of devs have chosen to support the G2 yet. I’ve seen more than one developer regard the G2 as a “if someone sends me one or wants to crowdfund getting me one, I’ll support it” type of device. But when the Nexus 5 comes out I’d imagine it won’t take long for a developer to get a G2 and want to be the guy to port it first.

    You can live with the weird back buttons. You can deal with the texture of the G2’s back cover (or put a case on it like most people). I’m not saying it’s exactly the same as getting a Nexus 5. Even if devs can port a clean Android ROM over, that can take time, which means you still might not be getting system updates as soon as they are available to Nexus users. But you’ll certainly be able to get it a hell of a lot sooner than other devices that have nothing in common with the LG-made Nexus 5 that will have to pass through their respective manufacturers to get reskinned and made to be compatible with all kinds of different chipsets.

    But I will say, the only people I can really imagine this should apply to are Verizon customers with unlimited like me, or those unfortunately locked in to some other sort of 2 year contract that would cost you money to get out of. For you people, the G2 will get you a comparable phone without having to lose unlimited or get out of your contract. For everyone else, if you have a Verizon contract that isn’t unlimited, and is about to expire or you don’t mind paying the ETF to leave, then sure, you can go get the actual Nexus 5 and disregard what I’ve said here. I’m just trying to point out a very obvious compromise that those truly unable to leave Verizon can make. Get the G2 and while I haven’t seen it guaranteed yet, figure that one of the many talented developers will not have much issue getting the Nexus system onto the G2. I really don’t see this Nexus device as being all that amazing that you need to leave Verizon for it, especially if you have unlimited, are happy with your contract, or live in one of the many areas where Verizon is just far an above when it comes to coverage and speeds.

    I’m not saying it’s a 100% perfect option for someone hell bent on owning the real Nexus, but this is a really obvious compromise for those stuck on Verizon who can deal with the *burden* of getting the brother or sister model to the Nexus 5 with a handful of specs that are actually better.

    • jh123416

      Amen.

    • acras

      While you make some valid arguments , keep in mind that Verizon does everything they can to break every root exploit dev’s find on their devices , slowing development and souring dev’s interest in working on them . I have no idea what the state of Verizon G2 dev is , but I’ve looked a bit into the note 2 for a friend that has one , and from what I’ve read it’s been a major fight . They find an exploit , Verizon sends out an ota that breaks root. I would have to imagine that Verizon will continue to improve their methods of breaking root on devices on their network , which would push the concept of a G2 being a suitable replacement for the nexus 5 into obscurity .
      The most viable option for those stuck with Verizon to have a device without skins and a solid chance for dev support would be one of the dev edition phones.

    • Steve B

      Great idea, buy an ugly phone with terrible software with the intention of porting over a hacked version of AOSP that will never work without a handful of bugs. Great idea bud, great idea.

  • callumshell1

    No nano sim slot? Dropped, what were LG thinking?

  • chris_johns

    WOW CDMA/LTE?!??!!?!?

    • Steve B

      Sprint.

  • NexusMan

    CDMA…. Does this mean we’ll actually see another Verizon Nexus?

  • boogie_monster

    “Charging time 3 hrs 30min @ Power Off”

    why does it take 3.5 hours to charge? it has a smaller battery?!!

  • master94

    lol if you read the Manuel . CDROM: No
    Because no one would buy a phone without one. In fact I need a floppy drive

    • acras

      tape backup and an 8track player are essential

  • Detonation

    People need to stop whining about the battery. 2300mAh is plenty, my Droid DNA with 2020mAh lasts all day without a problem. There’s more that goes into battery life than just looking at the mAh..

  • StankyChikin

    Think Google will muck up this launch also?

  • Akashshr

    I posted about this 3 months back! with insider info

  • CompCrash

    Only if we could get a price and release date now.

  • nvitone23

    where’s the mic?

  • Matthew Mackes

    What I love is this: If the G2 and the Nexus 5 are similar. Then porting stock Android to the G2 will not be an issue. Which means – Nexus 5 (ish), with a BIgger battery and larger camera on Verizon!

    • agujeronegro

      Keep dreaming. I thougth the same with the Samsung Galaxy SII and Galaxy Nexus… But, maybe in USA that’ll be true.

    • Steve B

      Oh boy, you have a lot to learn about how this stuff works…

  • Gehau

    Another headphone jack on the top?!

    • StankyChikin

      Hell yeah… Perfect placement 🙂

      • Tim242

        If you like cords hanging while using your phone…

        • Jeff

          When you plug headphones into the bottom of the phone they don’t hang? Magic?

          • Tim242

            Haha they don’t hang in the way. You know what I meant : )

          • Steve B

            You’re holding it wrong.

        • StankyChikin

          Show me one cord that doesn’t hang while being used.

          • Tim242

            Hanging from the bottom doesn’t get in the way

          • StankyChikin

            Neither does hanging from the top.

  • Dave S.

    Okay, perhaps some of you could hit me up with some suggestions as to getting the most out of a potential switch off of Verizon…because I kinda love this phone, but, clearly, it won’t be on the Big V any time soon (if at all)…

    Currently I’ve got Unlimited Data, Unlimited Text, 450 minutes…all for $110/mo. I’m also in a fairly large market/coverage area…Philadelphia, PA.

    So in your opinion(s)…what would be my best option(s) if I were to get the Nexus 5 and switch to another carrier? What will give me the closest plan to what I’ve already got on Verizon?

    (Pardon my ignorance…I’ve attempted looking into this (briefly) once or twice in the past, but never really got any solid info on my own. Also, I’m feeling VERY lazy this Sunday and I’m hungry.)

    • Qwerty

      You might consider looking into T-Mobile since they offer unlimited data and their plans aren’t too pricey. Make sure that they’re 4G LTE coverage is good in your area though because if your existing coverage is great, you might notice a discrepancy in service.

      • Carlton Crasher

        see this is why I have issues…AT&T is ranked second in service in my area…and they’re still 2G in my area…crap, i’m just porting my number to google voice and putting my verizon phone on another and using it as a hotspot on LTE and TADA…nexus phone activate!

        • Steve B

          How do you expect to make phone calls?

  • James Friedman

    Hope they make this one LOUD….my galaxy Nexus has such weak sound.

  • Joey Funk

    Go down to the end! there’s pictures of the device and it shows how to disassemble it!

  • James Friedman

    What is the button under the power button on the right side? Is that shutter button?

    • Derin Richardson

      SIM card tray.

  • Bharath Kannan

    If only it could be on verizon :'(

  • jh123416

    I guess us VZW customers will have to sit out until there’s a 1080p near-stock Motorola device…

  • Alexander Garcia

    2300 mAh!? Seriously Google!? WTF Man!? Why must there always be a compromise on these damn cursed Nexus devices!?

    • Alexander Garcia

      …at least ask Motorola (you know, the hardware company you now own!?) to implement the X8 computing architecture in there! Sheesh!

      • Alexander Garcia

        ..and yes! I am VERY MAD BRO!

        • Alexander Garcia

          …and talking to myself.
          .
          .
          .
          I seriously need help. =P

    • ddevito

      price

    • Skittlez

      it’ll get you through a little over a day. 800 is super efficient. chill

  • Rafa Sandoval

    ooh bottom speakers

  • roebling

    Wow. Am I the only one who was blown away by the embedded “Scribd” ~.pdf viewer? The 260-sumthin pages of the Nu-Nexus shop manual scrolled as smoothly as on any massive, downloaded version of Acrobat. Cool!

  • newsjunkieintl

    The FCC tests were on the LG-D820 and this is the manual for the LG-D821. So, what is different about the the LG-D820 version?[/B]

    Answer: the LG-D820 seems to be the “USA” version (supporting U.S. frequencies) and the LG-D821 seems to be the “international” version.

    See frequency support here:

    LG-D821

    http://goo.gl/GprgOL

    LG-D820

    http://goo.gl/CF1UxW

  • newsjunkieintl

    The FCC tests were on the LG-D820 and this is the manual for the LG-D821. So, what is different about the the LG-D820 version?

    Answer: the LG-D820 seems to be the “USA” version (supporting U.S. frequencies) and the LG-D821 seems to be the “international” version.

    See frequency support here:

    LG-D821
    http://goo.gl/GprgOL

    LG-D820
    http://goo.gl/CF1UxW

  • newsjunkieintl

    [B] The FCC tests were on the LG-D820 and this is the manual for the LG-D821. So, what is different about the the LG-D820 version?[/B]

    [B]Answer: the LG-D820 seems to be the “USA” version (supporting U.S. frequencies) and the LG-D821 seems to be the “international” version.[/B]

  • RW-1

    This could be the one that I leave VZW for. Plenty of GNex owners are up for upgrades this winter, and since VZW is just not taking our wants and concerns with new devices, I predict a mass exodus. I have been with a friend who went to the N4 on TM, and the service and speed is more than enough in my area to hold me (and that is with his heavy, 24hours a day ingress playing). Couple that with that I’m on wifi at home, work and most of my IT clients when not flying, I’m not making use of the GF unlim data anyway, certainly not enough to justify the cost going to those VZW vampires.. Going to be an inseresting winter …

    • Steve B

      This is the phone to leave Verizon for.

      • Tim242

        You are joking, right?

        • Steve B

          Negative Tim242, negative.

      • apinguat

        So difficult to stay with VZ when they pass up these devices. No point in keeping unlimited data (for as long as it lasts) when you can not get a device to use it on. The motoX will hold some over but I want a new Nexus.

    • Keith0606

      You pretty much summed up my thoughts on this to a T. Already decided to jump off Verizon for this also. I’ll be going to att though.

    • flosserelli

      Same situation here. I predict VZW will lose customers in Q4 2013 & Q1 2014 (people that had the GNex), and VZW will see an even larger exodus next summer when they kill unlimited data plans.

      • phathands

        They may lose some of the hardcore android fans they have, but we are a small fraction of their customers. Of course they will lose some customers, as any carrier does, but they’ve still been gaining customers overall and I’m not sure that the nexus community will make a big enough dent for them to notice.

        • shooter50

          Well said

        • flosserelli

          When I said Verizon will lose customers, I didn’t mean to imply their *total* number of subscribers would decrease. On the contrary, I expect VZW to continue gaining more customers. But I bet the number of people leaving Verizon during Q4/Q1 will be greater than usual. Not enough to affect VZW financially or make them change their policies, but still larger than the average number of customers leaving.

          This will be repeated (and magnified) when Verizon nukes all unlimited data plans and forces everyone onto tiered plans. Grandfathered unlimited data is what is keeping a lot of folks on Verizon and when that goes, so will a lot of customers. Verizon knows this, which is probably why they have not killed it already.

      • Tim242

        How are they going to kill unlimited when they just guaranteed me and many others unlimited for two more years? Your silly rumor is just that, a silly rumor.

        • Skittlez

          it was a glitch in the system. they can still kill unlimited for the people who aren’t on a contract if they wanted to

        • flosserelli

          Verizon doesn’t have to guarantee anything. You seem to forget that service contracts are always in the carriers’ favor, and they can change anything they want at any time. Verizon could pull the plug on unlimited data tomorrow, and as long as they notify customers and offer early termination without a fee, they are legally in the clear. If you think Verizon is obligated to give you 2 more years of unlimited data just because you upgraded phones last weekend, then you are either naïve, or just kidding yourself.

          • Skittlez

            right. he needs to use common sense

          • Tim242

            I’m very aware of how cell phone contracts work, as I work in a cell phone store. That’s why I laugh every time I hear someone say that they are going to sue a carrier. They don’t realize they sign away that right when they sign the contract. My point is that they just agreed to allow everyone to keep their unlimited that upgraded. While they could change their mind, they will not. They aren’t going to kill unlimited data plans next summer. They are selling phones full price under the premise of keeping unlimited data. They just ran a promotion that allowed thousands, if not millions to upgrade and keep unlimited data. I know that some of you want them to snatch our unlimited, but that doesn’t mean they will.

          • Skittlez

            so you think that because they allowed people to keep it, that it was done on purpose? come on man. use common sense. they did that so they wouldn’t look bad to all the customers that just renewed their contract. i’m sure they were saying something else on the inside.

          • flosserelli

            You don’t seem to get it. Verizon allowed Note 3 upgraders to keep their unlimited data FOR AS LONG AS VZW DECIDES TO PERMIT UNLIMITED DATA. They can force everyone onto tiered plans any time they want. If you don’t understand that, then I don’t know a more simple way to put it.

          • Tim242

            Verizon just put out a statement that said everyone that upgraded will have unlimited for two years of their contract. They went on to say that beyond that, you would have to buy full price to keep it. That sounds pretty simple. They could go out of business tonorrow, that doesn’t mean they will. You are just mad you don’t still have unlimited on Verizon.

          • flosserelli

            Tim242, listen because I am going to say this just one more time. Verizon allowed people to upgrade and keep unlimited last weekend for the duration of time Verizon wants to provide unlimited data. They can kill unlimited data at any time. Despite all of your hopes & dreams, they are not obligated to provide unlimited data for another 2 years if they don’t feel like it. If they want stop providing unlimited data, they only have to (1) notify you about the change in service, and (2) give you the option of continuing service under the new terms, or allow you out of the contract without paying an early termination fee.

            I think you need to review your Verizon contract because you clearly don’t understand what it entails.

            And not that it really matters, but I *do* still unlimited data. On 5 lines, in fact. Perhaps you should stop talking about things you know nothing about.

          • Tim242

            They said they are guaranteeing data for the duration of the two year contracts. I trust that more than a few nerds on a blog with chips on their shoulder.

          • Steve B

            Shots fired!

      • florious80

        how do you know if V will kill unlimited next summer?? Source?

    • sk102704

      I’ll be leaving VZW for this. Unlimited data was the only thing keeping me from leaving but I have heard rumors that VZW will be getting rid of the grandfathered unlimited data next summer so they may not have that going for them anyways.

      • Tim242

        They are not getting rid of unlimited data. They are forcing people to buy full price to keep it, which means they are getting paid double. Let’s not forget that they just had a weekend promotion that let a sh*tload of people upgrade and keep unlimited, which guaranteed unlimited for two moreyears

        • Skittlez

          that wasn’t a promotion. it was a glitch. i can see verizon forcing people off of Unlimited next year. My friend at best buy heard from the VZW reps that there were already talks of this. just no time frame

          • Tim242

            It went on for at least a whole weekend, with reports of it lasting over a week. Verizon would not have let a glitch last that long. It was no coincidence that it was the final week of the quarter. Regardless, they said everybody that upgraded keeps unlimited for two years. Verizon will not force the people off of unlimited that pay them double. Please, stop listening to Best Buy employees, they have no idea about what carriers plan to do.

          • Skittlez

            Please don’t tell me what to do. he heard this from a Verizon rep, and my friend that works at best buy also worked for verizon as well. I don’t know who you’re dating at verizon, but stop. we know they will end unlimited data one day. there’s just no date in sight. why can’t you just say “i hope its not soon” or something like that. are you a verizon rep? because if you’re not, i’d say i have more credit than you do. you’re just speculating and coming up with your own opinions, when i’m hearing it from people who are, and who have once been, affiliated with verizon themselves.

          • Tim242

            Best Buy employees are clueless, as are Verizon call center and store reps. If you need proof of that, look at the weekend promotion post. If Verizon had plans of totally dumping unlimited plans, they wouldn’t be selling devices full price on the premise of keeping unlimited data, and certainly wouldn’t have just allowed so many to keep it in the recent promotion. Use some common sense.

          • Skittlez

            common sense would be like, don’t put your fingers into a saw blade, you’ll get your fingers cut off. or you should put gas in your car when the gas light comes on because you’ll run out of gas. it doesn’t really match up with what businesses strategies. just because they’re allowing it now, doesn’t mean they’ll allow it in the future. they have to think about all the customers they are going to piss off, and how they’re going to break it to them, or what kind of promotion/time frame to use. it’s not something they just call off. and also, like i said, there were only talks. no set dates. so back off and stop trying to belittle people, when you don’t know facts at all.

          • Tim242

            I’m not trying to belittle anyone. It is fact that Verizon employees have no clue as to what the company will do, much less Best Buy reps. You could just as easily speculate that the company will go out of business. While it is possible, not very likely. You anti-Verizon people just like to spread FUD. A lot of their reps did the same thing last weekend, and they were wrong.

          • Skittlez

            it’s probably more likely that verizon could cut off unlimited data at anytime, than for them to go out of business at anytime. lets be real here. can’t speculate that, “just as easily” lol

            edit: why does this even matter? this article has nothing to do with unlimited data. i’m done

          • acras

            Not telling you what to do , but come on , B.B. employees and Verizon reps that visit the stores know as much about what Verizon is planning on doing as a baboon knows about water skiing . It’s like expecting a private to know the generals battle plans before they are sent down the chain of command.

          • Skittlez

            just to clarify here. the rep never said, “they’re cutting off unlimited data.” he said, “there have been talks of cutting unlimited data, but nothing is close to being official.” that is all subject to change, but i don’t think verizon will have unlimited data forever.

          • acras

            Oh , I agree with you that they would love to cut off unlimited data , that’s apparent in their actions. I was merely pointing out that those you quoted are far removed from the know , probably farther than many in this discussion.

          • Carlton Crasher

            Samsung Reps there KNOW NOTHING either…one told me the Galaxy Note III was going to be a flexible phone with a regular front like we see and a foldout display…unfortunately i don’t think so

          • Tim242

            That sounds about like what Best Buy reps say. They take something they read on a blog and twist it for a good story ,

        • sk102704

          Yeah those are secure, but for the rest of us who are grandfathered in with our unliminted data, VZW has the option of forcing you into a tiered data plan once your 2 year contract is up..
          I’m not saying it is going to happen, but come next summer when the last of the grandfathered unlimited data contracts end, VZW could take away unlimited data and force you on a tiered plan, I personally am not going to spend $650-$700 on a phone when there is a possibility that it is vain.

    • Adam Truelove

      I AM leaving VZW for this phone.

  • cloverz7

    I just want to know if it can support usb otg without hacking it into it?

  • Gary Jordan

    What page does it say that it will be on Verizon also?

    • flosserelli

      Nexus 5 IS NOT coming to Verizon.
      You will not find anything in the docs suggesting so, because IT IS NOT COMING TO VERIZON.
      Verizon customers already have their N5. It is called the LG G2.

      Jesus H Christ. When will people accept this.

      • Balthazar_B

        Never. Or grudgingly at best.

        • flosserelli

          No doubt. Believe me, I would LOVE to be wrong about this. Please prove me wrong, Verizon. But after the GNex debacle, Google wants nothing to do with Verizon’s shenanigans. And Verizon is quite content without a true Nexus device on their shelves. Offering a real Nexus would require VZW to give up too much control, and that ain’t gonna happen.

          • Tim242

            Yeah, because they have so much control over those Dev editions.

          • flosserelli

            Oh ok. I must have missed Verizon’s launch of the Galaxy Nexus Developer Edition…

          • Tim242

            Fastboot OEM unlock.

          • flosserelli

            And how exactly did that help Verizon GNex owners stay updated with the latest android (like all “Nexus” devices should be)?

          • Tim242

            If you buy a Nexus for OTA updates, you’re doing it wrong. You can’t have it both ways. Either you buy it for the unlockable bootloader, or you buy it for OTA updates. Why would you want or need both?

          • flosserelli

            The major selling point of Nexus is owning an unfettered, unmolested AOSP device. The GNex was a colossal failure in that regard, at the hands of Verizon. Verizon did everything they possibly could to castrate it. They never had any intention of allowing a truly open device on their network. That is why there will be probably never be another genuine Nexus device on Verizon. I will gladly eat my words if proven otherwise, but I am not holding my breath.

          • Steve B

            If you bought the Gnex expecting updates like the rest of the Nexus family you were being delusional. People who bought the Gnex, did so to have an unlocked bootloader and have access to binaries that would make their phone work 100%.

          • a3uge

            “If you bought the Gnex expecting updates like the rest of the Nexus family…” there were TWO Nexus devices before this one. The Nexus S never received ICS. Was it that hard to ask for an OTA update within a reasonable time frame for a device that was partially named NEXUS? Incredibly hindsight going on because you’re looking at Nexus devices released after the GNex. You’re trying to speak for everyone, including me, why we bought the Galaxy Nexus and it’s simply inaccurate, and then you’re somehow blaming the people who bought it for having complaints about Verizon’s management of it. Even through a custom ROMs, 4.3 does not work on the CDMA version without significant data drops. What good does an unlocked bootloader do for latest updates there?

            The simple fact is there’s a TON of people, whether you like it or not, that want a device that has ‘latest and greatest’ software updates without having to do anything more than hitting ‘upgrade’ when the screen pops up. I’ve seen this same complaint over and over and over again. I know it may be baffling to you, but there’s more people like that than there are people who flash for their upgrades.

          • Steve B

            This is laughable. The simple fact is there’s a LOT more people, whether you like it or not, that have zero clue that there’s even an update for their phone. 95% of people have no idea if there’s an update for their phone until a carrier pushes it to them.

            The people who do know, are people like you who come to DL and bitch about. The rest of us either take matters into our own hands or only buy real Nexus devices.

          • a3uge

            I did not say most owners are even aware of updates. This I agree with. But I AM running a custom ROM (still can’t solve the problem with not having a proper AOSP 4.3 yet)… I’m just acknowledging the majority of users who knew Jelly Bean was released didn’t run out and flash a custom ROM or AOSP. They just wanted to stay updated without having to root their phones. You shouldn’t look down on these people, and AT THE TIME, it was a reasonable assumption to make that these NEXUS devices would stay relatively up to date. Look at the thousands of posts on the internet at the time of Jelly Bean that were complaining about 4.1 not being available OTA for the GNex. But whatever, these people don’t deserve updates in your eyes.

            Your other solution to ‘buy a real Nexus device’ isn’t practical – if users would have bought a Nexus S at the time of launch Galaxy Nexus launch, they would have never ended up with ICS… or if they got a Nexus 4, that means most users would have violated their 2 year contracts, or would’ve purchased a phone only a year after their previous phone.

          • Steve B

            You’re clearly not qualified to speak on their behalf. I’ve taken note of your opinion and will consider it going forward if I decide to respond to you on the internets.

          • acras

            They do have control over the dev editions. they have to give the OEM’s their propriety binaries so the updates will work on the network . That was what caused the CDMA GNex to be pulled from ASOP . They hugged it out and it was reinstated , but if you don’t think that Verizon doesn’t ultimately have control over every device on their network , including the DEV editions you are delusional.

          • Tim242

            Regardless of the CDMA binaries, they still relinquish most control. They come with unlockable bootloaders and are not updated by them.

          • acras

            Regardless of the binaries? Yea , because if they don’t supply them to the OEM you will still get updates. Oh , wait a minute , no you won’t . Verizon has shown in the past that they will control updates pushed by others by withholding binaries (GNex) so if you don’t think they will ever do that again to control updates to “unlocked ” DEV editions , good luck.

  • flosserelli

    So close to being the perfect phone, except for the pitiful 2300 mAh battery. Oh well, I guess Nexus owners are used to carrying a charger everywhere.

    • G_Romero

      Better than the 1440ish of an *Phone…

      • flosserelli

        I couldn’t care less about iphone battery life. But I’d expect the N5 to have better battery life than the N4. And it might, but unless it has some serious software optimizations (ala Moto X), I wouldn’t hold my breath.

        • Skittlez

          the 800 is pretty much the optimization. it’s super efficient on battery

        • a3uge

          It does. 2300 mAh > 2100 mAh…

    • zurginator

      Never issues with my N4….. Only run about 2 hours of screen on and 8-9 hours of Pandora though. About 13 hours of up time with 20% in the tank at the end of the day.

  • Carla SBruner

    My classmate’s mother-in-law makes $67 each hour on the internet.
    She has been with no a job designed for five months but keep on month her salary
    Was $21622 a minute ago working on the internet designed for a little hours.
    Take a look by the side of the position at this point, BIG44.­c­o­m

  • ddevito

    With the Moto X the (Android) game has changed. I used to be a stock snob and touted Nexus everything, but after using the Moto X for a few weeks I’ve realized that doesn’t matter anymore. Other X features aside, any phone without (something like) Active Display makes it look archaic and dumb. And as other X owners have pointed out, with heavy usage the X still goes all day – and it’s constantly listening for voice commands!

    You can talk specs all day, but they don’t matter anymore. The Nexus 5 will be a nice phone but frankly the only thing Nexus phones have going for them is their off contract prices.

    • ROB

      With that battery it is now between the Note 3 and the MAXX…was really hoping to jump from verizon and get the N5 and go AT&T prepaid.

      Foiled again.

    • Jeff

      Here is how I decided to go with the Nexus 5 over the Moto X

      Nexus 5 – cheaper for a 32gb unlocked version (assuming less than $650), better specs make it more future proof, direct updates from Google, smaller than a Nexus 4
      Moto X – I prefer the look and size, would rather have a 4.7″ screen than a 5″, unknown how long Motorola will continue to update it and updates will take longer to get, probably more battery life (not as important since I only use 3g and WiFi)

      The advantages to the Nexus 5 make it the choice for me. It may not need those high end specs, but if they’re going to give them to me for less than a Moto X, I’m not going to argue.

    • LionStone

      People were saying that about the DNA too…I go all day with the 2020 mAh, S4 Pro, 5″ 1080p on the DNA, so pretty sure I’ll have no problem with the S800 and 2300 mAh.

      • Tim242

        You must be a lite user.

  • Jeff

    32gb of storage? Deal, I will buy you.

    • Steve B

      Very happy to see this. Sounds like we’ll get 32 and 16gb this year. Good riddance to 8gb of storage

  • yummy

    Furizon: We will have our own
    version of the Nexus 5 made special
    for us. We call it, AntiNexus2 5

  • Razma

    preparing to be massively disappointed………verizon customer……

    • Steve B

      Can’t be disappointed if you already knew it wasn’t coming to Verizon.

      • Skittlez

        no one really knows for sure until Google says so

        • Steve B

          Oh Skittlez, you’re cute.

          • Skittlez

            sorry man, i like girls

  • World phone constantly developed by its ordinary crane features.

  • lin

    This is the Draft service manual.
    LG D820 is the American version Nexus 5, LG D821 is the Europe Version

  • Brian_2112

    Ho…ly…f***.

    iPhone 5S? iDon’t Think So. Apple can make a new iPhone next year, but the Nexus 5 has some serious staying power, if these specs hold true when the device is released.

  • Matthew Fura

    Oh yeah… uh-huh.

  • kcmanuel

    Downloading the manual now. Any word of it having an IR for a universal remote App?

    • JD_26

      THIS ^^ is the only feature making me hesitant to get a nexus … guess these “niche” features are not the way nexus phones go ….
      thinking of the ZL as now their prices have dropped

    • j-dawg

      No reference in the manual, but what is this in the photo?

      • Joey Funk

        probably a second mic for noise cancellation.

        • j-dawg

          I just found this image of the IR port on the LG G2. It looks remarkably similar – same basic size/location. There is also a microphone hole, which looks distinctly different.

          (see http://goo.gl/nH1s5Z)

          • zurginator

            You’ll also notice the noise canceling mic there – in the exact same spot.

          • j-dawg

            Mics are usually the little pin-holes. The one in the Nexus pic is a larger size, and doesn’t look like a hole so much as a plastic circle/lense. No?

          • Joey Funk

            oh god yes, then i hope it is! i hate losing my remote!

      • Godzilla

        photon torpedo tube

        • j-dawg

          Oh. Thanks for clarifying. 😉

    • j-dawg

      I thought I had posted this reply, but I don’t see it here. Check out this pic of the LG G2 ir port.

      http://goo.gl/nH1s5Z

  • Guest

    Just gonna put this here.

  • Droon

    From this manual, is there any way to confirm/deny the lytro-esque camera?

    As I noted before, I am very skeptical that it will have one, but maybe there are more hints in the manual.

    • Steve B

      Nothing, the only thing confirmed is that it has OIS which is huge. Should be the best 8mp shooter on the market.

  • Malia Obama

    The continued lack of microSD is moronic. Should have been a 3000mah battery.

    • Brian_2112

      I agree that the battery could be better (though I can imagine the battery life will still be sufficient for the average user), I think that 32 GB is enough to deal with. Sure, about 5 GB or so will be used by the phone itself, that’s still some substantial storage left over. Most phones these days ship with around half that amount, so this is an advantage.

      • Malia Obama

        32gb is less storage than I’ve had on a phone since my Blackberry Storm. I have a 64GB card in my S4 and 16GB internal. Not allowing for expandable storage is moronic.

        • Skittlez

          it seems to have been doing fine for me. i haven’t needed to expand at all.

    • ddevito

      I don’t understand why so many people can’t understand this.

      SD storage is slow. Get over it. It’s 2013. Google wants you to store stuff in the cloud. Don’t like it? Buy a Samsuck.

      • Steve B

        I don’t get it either. Some people are still stuck in 2011.

        • Godzilla

          it’s still a nice feature to have especially if you spent money on a class 10 card

      • Godzilla

        SD storage is slow? Not if you get a class 10 card.

      • Franklin Ramsey

        While I personally have no problems using the cloud, might I point out that using the cloud is even slower than using an SD card.

    • Skittlez

      whats wrong with the 2300 mah battery?

  • Deusx

    A quick note that this phone does NOT have CDMA compatibility, that is an error on Droid Life’s part. This phone has WCDMA, which is typically used as a data connection IN CONJUNCTION with GSM as the voice protocol. There are almost no countries in the world that still use CDMA (other than the US) for voice. Since this model is not meant for the US market it would make no sense for it to have any CDMA bands (as is confirmed by perusing the manual)

    • NexusPhan

      Thank you! It is a glaring mistake and people are going Verizon crazy. Just need to accept already that this isn’t coming to Verizon.

  • rthvk

    Pg 276… Red color option? O.o

    • Malik

      red? I think that’s just the poor lighting lol

      • Mobile Phones Fan

        Yep. Kinda tricky lighting a flat object with all those reflective characters on the back.
        .

      • Mike Reid

        Lighting was my 1st thought.

        But could be a special internal testing case too.

    • EnX$$

      that is not red

    • Skittlez

      lighting

    • Tim242

      Reminds me of the HTC Diamond

    • Jeff

      Off color photo.

    • Steve B

      No, they just took these pictures with a Galaxy Nexus.

  • MafiaMM

    I survive the whole day with my Bionic’s extended battery [2760 mah] with about 20% left at night so I’m wondering how Nexus’s battery will compare…..

    • flosserelli

      You are pushing 540×960 pixels with a 20% larger battery, so you can probably guess how the N5 battery will compare.

      Spoiler alert: You won’t have 20% left at night…

      • MafiaMM

        ………………………..OMGGGGG NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Steve B

        The Nexus 5 is about 100% more efficient than the Bionic. OMAP 4430 (yikes) vs a SD 800 is laughable.

        • MafiaMM

          So then the Nexus’s 5 battery WILL last me through the whole day then?

          • Steve B

            Easy.

            Look at it this way: the G2 (same processor, approx same screen, 3000mah battery) gets about a day and a half of use. The Nexus 5 with 2300mah will easily get a full day of use.

          • MafiaMM

            ………………………..OMG YESSSSS!!!!!! haha

            I guess going from a Bionic to the Nexus, I’l be seeing a noticeable difference.

          • Skittlez

            and will keep cost low. it’ll be the best phone for your money, and the best android experience

    • Joey Funk

      spoiler: it will be so much better.

  • turco320

    looks old, not like

  • Destroythanet

    I’d be shocked if Verizon gets a version of the Nexus 5. That’s too bad. Looks like a great phone.

    • EnX$$

      they will but in few months not right away

      • Steve B

        Not happening bud.

        • EnX$$

          well lets see what happanes no one knows

          • Deusx

            Based on the Galaxy Nexus debacle on Verizon and the fact that some of the CDMA tech that needs to be integrated into the phone code isn’t open source (on Verizon) there is next to no chance that this phone will appear on Verizon. Google and Verizon were never on the best of terms, but the GNexus kind of killed it for Verizon (at least in terms of Nexus devices)

          • Steve B

            Don’t hold your breath bud, not happening.

      • Godzilla

        No

  • Ryan Gullett

    Considering the leaked images of the design are true, really the only draw to this phone are going to be the price (if they use the same strategy) and Android Kitkat. The 1080p screen and screen size would be nice compared to my Moto X, but I am pretty satisfied with the features and battery life I get and don’t mind the sacrifice. I can’t see myself having THAT much envy at this point (at least until we see the device).

    • EnX$$

      im disappointed about the camera and the b battery

      • Ryan Gullett

        Can’t really say anything about the battery until its actually used.

        • EnX$$

          i agree with you lets wait and see

      • Steve B

        If you’re disappointed about the camera then you know nothing about cameras.

        • EnX$$

          i know alot of camera im saying im disapointed about the camera is because i had an LG phone before and it 8mp camera it really sucked thats why im afraid. im afraid from Lg 8mp cameras no other brands because i tried it

          • Deusx

            LG doesn’t produces cameras (as far as I know). Not all 8MP cameras are created equal. This one in particular uses an upper mid-range 8MP Sony sensor with 1/3 sensor size. Furthermore it has Optical Image Stabilization which makes a huge difference. Finally there are rumors that this will be the first production phone with a MEMS camera, though that seems unlikely now.

          • EnX$$

            well i tried many 8mp cameras they were most great but LG always had problems with there 8mp cameras its going to be the same on on the Nexus 4 no change . but there new 13mp camera on the lg g2 is amazing

          • Deusx

            There are no sample images yet, so of course there is the possibility that the camera will be terrible. However this phone will use the IMX179 Sony 8MP sensor, which is actually quite good. Currently it is in the Meizu 3 which (I believe) doesn’t have OIS. Based on that, this camera should be pretty good. I agree that LG doesn’t really have the best track record with cameras, but as I stated earlier they don’t actually manufacture cameras. It is more that they have chosen sub-par 8MP cameras for their phones. However it seems like Google is dictating the camera that is being used in the Nexus 5, not LG (though the Nexus 4 camera is “meh” at best…)

          • EnX$$

            i understand lets wait and see

      • Skittlez

        don’t be. the battery will likely be awesome. the G2 can last me 2 days on a single charge, and this is only down a little less than the third of the size. should be fine

        • EnX$$

          with heavy use or normal use skittlez?

          • Skittlez

            today, at 50% i had 16 hours and 8 minutes with 2 hours and 47 minutes of on screen time with the screen at auto brightness. i’d consider that pretty moderate

          • EnX$$

            thats great

          • Skittlez

            my friend got his up to 50 hours and 50 minutes by 5%

  • crazed_z06

    I’d have serious buyer’s remorse if I got the Moto X instead of waiting for this.

    • Ryan Gullett

      Not if the phone will never come to your carrier

      • guest

        Not if nexus 5 doesn’t have the usefull features that moto x has

        • donkeykong85

          useful features the motox has? you realize people buy nexus phones to root and have 20x more features than any off the shelf phone, right?

          • jt O’Brien

            You can never have active display on the Nexus 5.Just an example of an advantage the Moto X has over the N5

          • Joey Funk

            you can. there’s an app that does just that. it will have more of an impact on battery life because of the differences between AMOLED And LCD, but you can do it.

          • jt O’Brien

            You can’t really do that. The battery life would be sucked up within hours. Still an area the Moto X beats the N5. Also the app that replicates it, isn’t that great and even the paid version still kinda sucks compared to what is actually on the Moto x

          • Joey Funk

            you can also do the always listening thing, but it totally kills battery. its so funny how everyone complained about the specs, but if you try to do what the moto x does on a normal phone, it just kills the battery. 😀

          • donkeykong85

            ugh. have you seen this app thats been doing active display for like a year now? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.activenotifications

          • jt O’Brien

            Lol that hasn’t been out for a year. It came out when the Moto x did. I have it on my GNex, It is nothing compared to what the Moto X actually does.

      • Jonathan Ly

        To be frank I didn’t know so many non-Verizon users were actively participating in Droid-Life.

        I don’t think there really is any hope for a Verizon Nexus 5, I would guess that the N5 sold through Play Store will have the GSM radios for AT&T and T-Mo out of the box, for LTE too. Sprint would get a carrier version with the CDMA radios and their LTE frequency.

        Once I’m working again, definitely switching back to T-Mo.

        • Cowboydroid

          A lot of original Verizon users have switched, but this is also a great site for Android news itself.

          I myself switched to Verizon for the Droid X. I got through about a year before I got so frustrated with how locked down it was and how slow it got that I upgraded to the Gnex, paying that $300 price tag. I thought my problems were solved…HA! It’s going on two years now, but it started feeling old about 9 months ago. I’m jumping to TMob with the Nexus 5 the second it’s released.

    • Godzilla

      They are gonna have buyers remorse when the price gets cut big time……

    • Balthazar_B

      I’m guessing when all is said and done, a lot of people will prefer the Moto X to this. And it’s really difficult to make a choice until all the warts with both phones have been disclosed.

  • Ammon Rees

    So I find this interesting as far as the size of the device as compared to the Nexus 4. According to the manual the device is 133.9 x 68.7 x 9.1 mm exactly the same dimensions as the Nexus 4 according to the Google Play Store. the weight of the Nexus 5 is slightly heavier at 139.5g. If this is true I’m even more excited about the device since it’ll have a 5 inch screen and not be any bigger than the nexus 4

    • Reginald Jefferson

      That IS interesting.

    • Steve B

      Yes, same footprint, larger screen, smaller bezel.

      Peeps love to talk about the bezels 😉

    • Greyhame

      This is a draft. Probably has the old measurements listed as a place holder.

  • Godzilla

    It’s sad how many of you think this will be on Verizon.

    • EnX$$

      Verizon or not. even if it will come to Verizon it will take months

      • Godzilla

        No, it won’t

        • EnX$$

          you already know verzion is slow Godzilla

    • michael arazan

      If by the slightest chance it does come to VZW, I’d be happy to pay $600 for it.

    • Steve B

      Hi Bionic, I sure miss you.

      You’re right though, it’s sad how many people are still holding out hope. Verizon has beaten and sucked the common sense out of everyone.

      • Godzilla

        I am enjoying myself and not having trolls question and contradict everything I say just for fun. There isnt much news to report these days anyway.

        • Steve B

          Well, you can take comfort in knowing the majority of the info you passed on ending up being true. F the trolls my friend.

    • Greyhame

      You’re aptly named, crusher of hopes and dreams.

      • Godzilla

        I have become death, the destroyer of worlds.

    • Ian

      Still not near as sad as you.

  • Godzilla

    That right there is the phone of the year. Screw Verizon.

    • Chris

      just in time for next years flagship phones that will be announced in 4-6 months

  • jaybar

    the height and width are nice, but it is thick, relatively speaking. 133.9 x 68.7 x 9.1mm

    • Christian

      I think AndroidPolice said something about the dimensions listed being the exact same dimensions as the Nexus 4 which they believe to be incorrect. The manual also lists something about Bluetooth 3.0 somewhere, which also seems to be in error. Probably small errors throughout since it’s an internal draft.

  • Skittlez

    Thank god for 32GB. it’s the perfect size(for me)

    • El_Big_CHRIS

      thats what she said? No? Ok….

      • Skittlez

        i’ll allow it

  • Joe shmoe

    I want!!! But I’m on Verizon….

  • Skittlez

    it was nice having you G2. i shall have you until my contract is up in December, and sell you for the Nexus 5. Lets enjoy our time together.

  • Jroc869, Nexus-Life

    All I want for Christmas are Google play gift cards.

    • hahahahahahahahahahahah

      if youre gunna use these gift cards to buy the nexus 5 then sorry buddy can’t use google play gift cards on hardware or accesorries

      • Jroc869, Nexus-Life

        Yup just saw that. Such a shame but good to know. Too many people out there are mad because they have a couple hundred bucks worth of GP gift cards for no reason at all.

  • jbdan

    I can’t wait…. Awesome. Some eye candy over the wknd thx DL!

  • Nayners

    My next phone. fact.

  • Michael Contreras

    Really excited about this phone, but.. ugh, did the Nexus logo had to be vertical like that?

    • EnX$$

      really you worried about a logo wtf you going to put a back cover on it anyway

    • Mobile Phones Fan

      ‘Vertical’?

      I guess that depends upon your point of view…literally. When held in landscape — as most of us do when taking snaps — the logo is horizontal.

      Between that and the silvery (reflective film) insets, I’d say Google wants to be sure the ‘NEXUS’ lettering is plainly visible to everyone in your photos. 🙂
      .

  • grumpyfuzz

    google, make an announcement already!

    • Godzilla

      soon

      • Franklin Ramsey

        How do you get down votes for saying something we all know is true? Google will make an announcement soon. Who would down vote that?

    • Eric R.

      According to PhoneArena Verizon is getting the Nexus 5

      • Gnex

        PhoneArena is full of shlt.

        • PolarBear

          You mean iPhoneArena?

          • Gnex

            AHAHA I should have thought of that. At least they’re not as bad as Engadget or BGR… or any other tech site that isn’t strictly Android/WP.

          • PolarBear

            Please see this review… I’ve never seen like that from them.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r94qlP1cQA

          • Gnex

            I can’t believe I’m actually gonna watch this… Well I’ll get back to ya in about 21 minutes.

          • punkroyale

            classy, its shot in a kitchen.

          • PolarBear

            Perhaps they were thinking: Will it blend?

          • Yeah, that review pretty much sums up my experience with the 5s. I bought one off Craigslist and sold it about a week later. It was the iPhone 5 with a finger print sensor. No other noticeable difference for me, and the finger print sensor was pointless for me since I don’t lock my phones. When using it, I really REALLY missed the LG G2 I was using prior. Now I am on to the Sony Xperia Ultra and Note 3. I predict Apple’s sales will fall off quickly. These other phones have so much more going for them.

          • i like iOSarena but yours works too 🙂

        • Eric R.

          Every tech site used to be all about iPhone’s. I think the Galaxy s3 changed that last year.

          • Gnex

            Umm, no.

      • mjmedstarved

        I’ve heard it will have LTE and also….. come in different COLORS! 😛

  • I love how we see CDMA and everyone is like VERIZON!!!! but let’s not forget that Sprint is still around and for all we know the phone could be going there instead of Verizon 😛

    • phathands

      Its not that we’ve forgotten about Sprint. Its just that no one cares.

      When they show the Verizon version I’ll get excited.

      • Thats what I figured, but I just like crushing dreams… 🙂

    • DoctorJB

      This appears to be the international version. The D820 (from the FCC) supports US LTE bands, this one does not.

    • Skittlez

      i love how we never saw the 821, and only the 820. wonder if there could be another verison(verizon). just speculating

      • DoctorJB

        We didn’t see the 821 because it didn’t get submitted to the FCC (since it won’t be sold here).

        • Skittlez

          doesn’t mean that another one with Verizon radios can’t go through the FCC a few weeks before release. It’s happened in the past with other phones. I’m just trying to keep an open mind here. Nothing is set in stone until the announcement.

          • Reginald Jefferson

            I doubt it. It’d be a waste to create a 3rd phone just to have VZW’s LTE bands after they’ve already created one with the other 3 carrier’s bands, especially after the debacle with the G-Nex. One can only hope though.

          • Skittlez

            exactly. i doubt it too, but we really don’t know 100% yet. Either way, i’ll sell the G2 and get the N5 in December when my contract is up. i’ve had it

          • Balthazar_B

            I really don’t think we’ll see another Nexus phone on VzW until VzW — and maybe other carriers — support VoLTE, and there is no more CDMA. At that point, OS updates would be under Google’s control, and not the carriers’. I think the bad taste VzW left with Google over the Galaxy Nexus debacle left Google determined never to let a carrier dictate OS roadmaps ever again.

      • acras

        we saw info about the 821 several weeks ago…

  • me

    I believe that the vertical Nexus logo is because the phone is kinda of like the Nexus 7 and there really is no up or down or top or bottom of the phone, if it works like the Nexus 7 then the phone will work “upside down” and the screen will just flip orientation like a tablet.

  • Shwing…

    ….if on Verizon.

  • Josh Oberg

    Notificaiton light… 🙁 guess that means no active notifications

    • Balthazar_B

      It’s not a Moto X…

    • Dan

      I won’t live without Active Notifications now that I have them.

      • C-Law

        Yeah! I just got my moto x yesterday and love this feature. Only a day in and this phone blows away my gs4 in every way. battery is much better too

    • Christian

      Definitely not – active notifications take advantage of AMOLED screen properties, but we know for sure that the Nexus 5 is going to have LCD (a beautiful IPS LCD to be exact). Active notifications are very cool, but I’ll take the nicer screen over them.

      • Tim242

        Nicer screen? LCD = gray blacks. Before you try to tell me that Amoled is over saturated in color, you can set the saturation level. Movie mode has the most accurate colors

        • zurginator

          Unless you have them side by side, an IPS will seem better thanks to its whites and how it handles gradients. Amoled tends to crush darker values rather severely.

          Outside a dark room (where Amoled wins easily), IPS has the advantage due to its reflective properties. Also modern IPS displays look black anywhere that is lit – in fact the N4 screen shows a darker black than the bezel.

          Amoled is great for things like active display and on screen keys (because battery savior), but with Android going primarily light it doesn’t bode well for overall savings.

  • nooberrific

    WhY no 13mp camera or 3000mah battery just up the price to 349-399

    • Josh Oberg

      no need for 13 mp i’ll take the battery though

      • nooberrific

        Agreed battery is more important still getting the nexus 5 on day one but was hoping it would be a exact copy of the g2 with a 5 inch display and normal buttons

    • Rob Delaney

      Because when the other portions of the camera are better, you don’t need anything past a 8MP for a smartphone cam. Give me 8MP, OIS, f/1.6 to f/1.8 with 2 to 2.2 microns per pixel, and MEMS and I will show you the best point and shoot smartphone in the industry.

      • Christian

        This phone should get at least 2/5 of those specs 😛 Let’s hope for more! But you’re totally right about megapixels; you could bump it up 10 more megapixels but skimp on the specs that you mentioned and it would probably take terrible photos.

    • Steve B

      8 mp with OIS will be more than enough…. Unless you make posters on the side…

  • Steven Castro

    CDMA?!!! Can this be true for Verizon? This would be awesome if so!

    • JonathonFlores

      Definitely buying if this is Vzw compatible! Tossing the moto x!

      • Balthazar_B

        Enjoy your Moto X. It’s almost certain there won’t be a VzW variant of this phone.

    • Steve B

      Sprint. This is not coming to Verizon.

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      Sprint

  • I’m so happy right now…..if this is in vzw I’ll freak out

    • me

      I would say there is about a zero percent chance of that happening.

      • Skittlez

        why? no one knew there as an 821, only the 820. how do we know there’s not a verizon specific version out there, like the Gnex

        • Droidzilla

          Because of how Verizon treated the GNex and Google’s response to it. I would be very surprised to see this in any capacity, other than the LG G2, on Verizon.

          • Skittlez

            still doesn’t mean it might not be out there. i know it’s unlikely, but i’m still not making anything official until it’s made official.

          • Droidzilla

            Unless Verizon’s changed their policy, or Google theirs, there’s no reason to expect a surprise Verizon Nexus.

          • Skittlez

            again, no one is expecting here. just trying to keep an open mind. i don’t care either way. i’ll be going to t-mobile in december and getting it.

        • NexusPhan
          • Skittlez

            lol i never said we would see a stateside 821 or that i wanted to. i just said you never know if there could be a verizon version slipping through the FCC later this month

  • CaptainHowdy13

    Wow, I want. I need a new Android my Gnex won’t charge so I’m stuck on a Lumia 822 🙁

    • Christopher A Ryan

      You can pick up used gnexs cheap these days. Under $100

      • CaptainHowdy13

        I – like most people – am done using a Gnex. I wan’t a modern Android that can last a long time. My Lumia can go two days on 1450mah battery.

    • Christopher A Ryan

      Gnexs go cheap these days.. under $100 if you wanted another

    • roebling

      Pull the depleted battery and the sim card. Count to ten, reinsert the card and a FULLY CHARGED battery. Reboot.

  • Artune

    Yep it’s almost a lg g2.

    • EnX$$

      LG G2 is better but i hate the back . i wish the nexus 5 was excaly like the lg g2 but without the back buttons

      • Skittlez

        G2 is better is kinda subjective. (i’m a G2 owner)

        • EnX$$

          LG G2 is better in all ways. but its not better in the ui and its not better in the back buttons. but im saying i wish the nexus 5 has everything the LG G2 has but stock andriod and no back buttons it would have been perfect

          • Skittlez

            again, better is subjective. it doesn’t have stock android, and for what i want in a phone, the Nexus 5 has it. it will probably be the best android experience ever. it will be Android, the way it’s meant to be. yea the G2 might have a slightly larger screen and a bigger battery, but if the Nexus battery can get me through the day(which i don’t think it will have any problem doing) it will be great still. better is all in what you want in a phone. Luckily for me, i’m not a spec whore.

          • EnX$$

            you say spec whore your funny man 🙂

          • Tim242

            Android the way it’s meant to be? It’s meant to be in many forms. Not all of stock is a good experience.

          • Skittlez

            stop trolling. you know what i mean. Android in it’s pure form. no clunky skins over it.

            edit: and i was talking about my view of the phone in comparison to others.

          • Tim242

            An opinion other than your ownis not a troll. Android in its pure form may look pretty these days, but lacks a lot of customization and functionality. That is in no way trolling, it’s the truth.

          • Skittlez

            it’s perfect for me. everything i need works

      • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

        They can keep that plastic back. I prefer the N7 style Back which is what’s in the N5 leaks.

      • Tim242

        You like the glossy plastic?

  • robvargas

    So a Verizon N5 is a possibility?

    • Artune

      Here’s hoping, I’ll be a little bit upset. Love the g2 but I love vanilla more

    • Manny Gomez

      I sure hope so..

    • Raj Bhatt

      Well, it doesn’t support Band 13 for LTE which is what Verizon uses. It does support Band 4 which Verizon owns a bit of and is planning on using in the future.

      So in the off chance that it’s CDMA radio can work on Verizon, LTE won’t function.

      • Npompei

        So does this mean we can confirm this will NOT be on Verizon with your statement? Or will we have to wait until they put in their “new service” or some crap at which point they will stop updating this phone because of “security issues” on their new network.
        Last part was a rant but first part is serious!

      • Chiperdada

        There are 2 different models. the second model is designed for Verizon’s LTE.

        • Ryan

          There is no real proof of this. In all the docs I’ve seen, the Nexus 5 does not support Verizon’s main band they use. The FCC doc that was leaked a while back was a mess up on their part. We all know how Verizon is with people tinkering with their devices and lock them down to death, so don’t expect another Nexus device unless you want another debacle that happened with the Galaxy Nexus.

          I bet the two different models is possibly in reference to a GSM and a Sprint CDMA version, however no VZW variant appears to exist.

          • Tim242

            Verizon does sell Dev editions.

          • Ryan

            Not through Verizon themselves, no. The OEM’s sell those, and its mostly Motorola that sells them currently.

      • DoctorJB

        It’s showing bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8 and 20. That means it won’t have LTE on any of the US carriers.

        • Andrew Knighton

          couldn’t this just be for an international model?

          • DoctorJB

            Let’s hope. This is the D821, as opposed to the D820 that we’ve seen in the previous leaks.

            from the FCC certs:
            D820 supports 2, 4, 5, 17, 25, 26 (basically all the US LTE bands).

          • Raj Bhatt

            Again though, it leaves out band 13 which is what Verizon uses.

          • DoctorJB

            Sorry that I didn’t catch that.

          • Mobile Phones Fan

            Of course, VZW has said they will light up their Band 4 system before year’s end. Maybe they plan to announce same at about the time Nexus 5 (or Nexus 4.2, w/e) gets intro’d.
            .

          • NexusPhan

            Nope.

          • michael arazan

            Verizon Has AWS Band 4 which it is supposed to be releasing at end of the year, its hoarding a huge stockpile of it

          • NexusPhan
      • michael arazan

        My GS3 I’m using on VZW says band LTE 14

    • ButcherChop

      I read it doesnt support the Verizon LTE bands.

    • Alex Goings
      • DoctorJB

        Cnet is quoting the same FCC certs that we’ve all seen. Verizon is supposedly adding some Band 4 coverage some time this year but they’re currently all in on Band 13 (which isn’t supported by the only FCC certified Nexus 5).

        • Alex Boro

          will it work on vzw 3g though?

          • DoctorJB

            Not unless Verizon allows it. CDMA carriers (Sprint and Verizon) us devices’ ESNs instead of sim cards (except for LTE). That means in order to use a device on Verizon voice/3g, it has to be approved by Verizon. Someday Verizon will switch to voice over LTE and then people should be able to just pop in the LTE sim card of the device of their choice (but that’s years away).

          • Tim242

            No.

  • JRUIV

    Hypebeastmode engaged!

    • ChrisI

      Eric got engaged?

      • Doris

        My Uncle Tyler recently got Honda Civic Sedan only from working part-time online… pop over to these guys………. w­w­w.J­a­m­1­0.c­o­m

  • 918273645ams

    This would be the perfect phone… if it had a bigger battery.

    • Who knows, maybe Android Kit Kit might help with that?

      • tomgillotti

        Even if it helps, batteries don’t get stronger with time. No reason for any phone to have less than 3000mAh battery.

        • Paul Hansen

          Sure there is. Cost.

          • Steve B

            No, batteries cost nothing. There’s no excuse for anything less than 3000mah. 700mah difference costs pennies. That’s the single thing about this phone I’m sad they skimped on. However, I do think it will be more than enough to get through a full day of regular use, which is all I need.

          • malcmilli

            The excuse is probably so that the LG G2 still looks more attractive than the Nexus 5

          • capecodcarl

            Don’t discount software fixes for improving battery life just yet. The iPhone 4S I’m borrowing running iOS 7 has a 1420 mAh battery and has phenomenal battery life. I’ve had nearly 1 hour and 17 minutes of usage and a whopping 42 hours of standby with it and the battery is at 70%!!!!

            That’s unbelievable compared to my Android devices. In comparison, my HTC Rezound with a 2750 mAh extended battery running stock firmware is at 60% battery life after 26 hours with 42 minutes of screen on time and the phone is as thick as a brick.

            Now, I know I’m definitely a light user compared to the rest of you, but my only concern is how much standby time I can get out of a phone while still getting basic features like e-mail alerts, SMS, and phone calls with some light web browsing in between.

          • KleenDroid

            Software does play into it. I am reading that the S4 with the 2.3 update leak has improved the battery life in a big way. So I would assume on a stock device it would even be better.

            However the rest of the specs look pretty good so I don’t know why they didn’t put in a little bigger battery.

          • acras

            They are pushing Gingerbread to the samsung s4?! Hot damn , I can put CM7 on it and have it match my droid X !

          • KleenDroid

            HA… oops

          • Carlton Crasher

            xD xD xD

          • LionStone

            This is light usage on my DNA, 2020 mAh on LTE entirely … I’ll give you the difference in battery life to be able to use a 5″, 1080p screen, more robust UI, customized launcher (Nova Prime), plus as a bonus, built-in wireless charging, compared to iphone. 🙂

          • Jarred Sutherland

            With Apple’s approach you do lose the ability to customize and do whatever you want .. but I LOVE the battery life I get from them.

          • NexusPhan

            The iPhone 4S battery is atrocious. Friend of mine went through two full charge cycles a day and it still wouldn’t last on late bar nights. His girlfriend (now ex-girlfriend) forced him to upgrade to a different phone because it was so bad.
            The only thing the 4S was good at for battery was standby. Turn that screen on and you’re done. (And BTW those usage stats were never accurate when I used my iPhone 4 under iOS 5. I’m not sure how usage was calculated but it wasn’t screen on time)

          • James Friedman

            I get what your saying batteries AREN’T that expensive, but form factor is everything to most manufacturers.

          • Paul Hansen

            If the difference is… call it… $10 (it’s probably more but just for round #’s)… The math if you sell 20 million devices over the device’s life means that you paid an extra $200 million for batteries in that device. That’s a lot of money. In a scenario where you sell more devices like the GS3 where you’re pushing 50 million units and say the battery difference there was $20 (since the GS3 stock battery was literally half) you’re talking a billion dollars just because you bumped up that battery. It looks small on an individual device scale but that’s not what companies look at. They’re looking at the bigger picture.

          • Steve B

            You can’t call it $10 because that extra 700mah is literally pennies.

          • Paul Hansen

            Not if that battery is custom shaped (read: doesn’t fit in ANYTHING else) to keep the form factor of the phone down. The capacity might not cost a lot but the design can. Even if it’s only 2-3 dollars more you’re still talking 100 mil on a successful device.

          • No, it’s because all companies want is to make phones thinner and thinner.

          • Eric R.

            HTC uses small batteries and there phones still aren’t thin.

          • Paul Hansen

            See my comment below when i replied to Steve.

        • acras

          3000mAh? why limit phones to that? Hell , I want to be able to stream HD movies non-stop for 3 days and not have to charge my phone. Why settle for such a poor performing phone with a measly 2300 mAh battery Google , WHY!
          Oh yea , because no one who is complaining about the battery has any idea how the phone will perform , yet.

        • NexusMan

          Size

      • sski66

        Plus I heard that the Snapdragon 800 helps too.

      • SetiroN

        You mean… manipulating physics?

        • Derin Richardson

          He meant in terms of battery cycling.

          • Reginald Jefferson

            No no. I think he’s on to something. A physics manipulation chip. Breaking the physical world one law at a time. Think of the possibilities!

          • Franklin Ramsey

            Can we get a Tardis Circuit as well while we are at it?

      • Elliot Kotis

        Well Moto X has 2100mAh and probably has the best battery in the industry, or close to it. So maybe the 2300mAh will be just as good (the HTC ONE only has the same)

        • Diablo81588

          The moto x has a 2200mah battery I believe, but I agree with your statement.

        • Big_EZ

          I haven’t used an X for a full day, but according to all the reviews it’s not bad for a smaller battery, but not as good as several other phones (Note 2, Note 3, RAZR Maxx, Droid Maxx). The new Droid Maxx is almost the same phone with a much larger battery, I think it has the longest battery life currently.

          • DoctorOta

            For the past week I’ve been gettin 1 day 16 hours and change off my phone with 2:45-3 hours of screen time and wifi toggling on and off throughout the day. It’s been a great phone for me and surprisingly better than my original Razr maxx was.

          • Rojo623

            That’s amazing. But i dont believe u. Too good to be true.

          • DoctorOta

            Mind you i’m more of a light to moderate user but it’s true. I’ll attach a screenshot for you of my phone. This was from 2 days ago, and yesterday I got 1 day 15 hours before my phone hit 8% but that was with 3:15 of screen time and this was more time on network than wifi. I’m not a power user any more by any means but this phone yeilds better life than my Razr Maxx did.

            I also attached a picture of this morning’s battery levels. This is 25 minutes screen time, on wifi with the phone on for about 1 hour 37 minutes, only down 5%

          • Rojo623

            thank u. thats amazing. nexus 5 – here i come.

          • DoctorOta

            No problem, To be honest with any of the new phones it’s mainly going to come down to personal preference, and the features that appeal to you like active notifications, or camera features. The specs will be great in all of them.
            -cheers

      • Jarred Sutherland

        One can only hope Google starts to do some refinement to the core OS rather than change the look and feel over and over again. The look is fine, substance is what is now needed.

    • Raj Bhatt

      I’m ending my days with 50%+ battery left on my LG G2, so 2300 mah should be fine.

      • ButcherChop

        I have a GNex and have TWO 3500mAh batteries for it and most days I’m fine with one, but if I leave the house for the entire day of sightseeing or driving around, I use both.

        • Raj Bhatt

          I went from a GNex to the G2. The difference is gonna blow you away. The Snapdragon 800 sips on battery. The GNex guzzles battery like a frat kid on St Patrick’s Day.

          • Skittlez

            lol my gnex gets 2 days of battery……now that i have a G2 and all it does it sit on my dresser on airplane mode and on wifi with like a minute of on screen time

          • Simon Belmont

            The VZW and Sprint G’Nex get lower battery life because of the LTE chip guzzling power. Plain and simple. Those first generation LTE chips were MONSTER battery consumers. The generation in use now, is MUCH more battery efficient.

            I have a GSM G’Nex and I easily go a day (24 hours, not merely a work day) on a charge with the stock 1750 mAh battery. I’m talking 3-4+ hours of screen on time, and heavy usage, and I have battery left at the end of the day (all on HSPA+).

          • evan brown

            i always have 4G turned off, guzzles anyway. might just be CDMA

          • Simon Belmont

            I always wondered that, too. I did notice that my GSM phone does seem to do SLIGHTLY better on battery than my CDMA phone did (I switched carriers about five months ago).

            I attributed it to being a slightly older version of Android (4.0 vs 4.2, and now 4.3, at the time). But I assume the 3G radio technology makes a difference as well. Not to mention CDMA 3G can really only ever pull down about 1.5 to 2.5 Mbps maximum, while GSM HSPA+ can do well over 20 Mbps depending on the network and phone hardware (21 or 42). Downloading things faster means the connection can idle faster and thus ramp everything down faster, saving battery. I’m sure there’s lots of factors besides the LTE, but it’s likely the biggest in terms of battery guzzling for most CDMA G’Nex users.

          • evan brown

            I’m also on a 4.3 rom, I hate CDMA and Verizon more and more everyday, I cannot wait to get off this and just grab the new nexus every year

          • Simon Belmont

            Let me be the first to “pre-welcome” you to the club, man. Shaking off the CDMA shackles was a big part of why I quit Sprint (I actually didn’t have bad coverage or data speeds with them).

            The other reason being price and bill transparency on T-Mobile. I love my GSM G’Nex and I will love my Nexus 5.

          • evan brown

            congratulations, I still have months to go, very jealous

        • C-Law

          You simply can’t use the gnex for battery comparisons. I’ve had the gs3, note 2, gs4, and now the Moto x and all of them blew the pathetic gnex battery life out of the water

        • sski66

          When I used my GNEX if I coulda carried a car battery with me I woulda,haha, now it sooo nice not to worry about watching my battery every damn second with my HTC ONE. Also if I’m going overnight somewhere I bring my Anker 5600 portable battery, it’s small enough to put in your back pocket & it chargers my ONE twice.

          • Reginald Jefferson

            That sounds like a good plan there. As soon as I upgrade (Moto X most likely but HTC One has my curiosity) I’ll be doing the same with carrying a portable battery for those long days away from home.

          • sski66

            Yeah, that’s why I never understood people complaining about phones without a removable battery. The Anker 5600 isn’t that big, fits in my pocket, & charges my HTC ONE twice. Plus it only costs me $30 from Amazon, enjoy your upgrade, whatever you decide I think you’ll be happy.

          • Sporttster

            I’ve got a Anker 8600 batt I take with. Has two ports, one for tablets and one for my Razr Maxx which is soon to be upgraded to a Note 3. It’s been invaluable for the many times here/there where I just don’t have a available car/wall charger to charge with. We all have times where we forget to charge, the phone has half a charge, etc. This makes it convenient to not worry and just go.

      • Skittlez

        definitely. the 800 chip is amazing. with the Adreno 330, G-RAM is insane. why wasn’t this in phones before?

      • Relaxing Tomato

        I think the G2 has a larger battery. I recall something in the 3000s

        • Skittlez

          3000, which means the 2300 should still get over a day

          • malcmilli

            on regular use yes, but some people are concerned about slightly more than moderate usage

          • NYCHitman1

            Great doesn’t exist outside of MAXX series. Good is easily attainable.

          • malcmilli

            new studies have shown the g2 has bested the maxx’s battery… so your efficient s800 might be a beast

          • Skittlez

            i’m sure the battery will be able to get you a little over a day, which is enough, especially when trying to keep costs low. IMO, if you’re using the phone that heavily, you’re probably close to a charger, and if you’re out and about, you’re not going to be using the phone AS much since you’re occuppied, but thats just me

          • malcmilli

            yeah sometimes, but if it were that simple, then no one would ever complain about battery life. There are plenty of times where Navigation or long commutes with videos on your way out and about, or where you have to wait for a friend for 30 minutes so you are web surfing, and then maybe after the bar you want to watch a movie on the hour long train ride home at 3am. yeah you can make it through the day but that would involve you nursing your battery at some point. (airplane mode/toggling data/screen brightness on like 15%, etc.)

            Again that’s without knowing precisely how well the s800 will do, i wouldnt call it a deal breaker, but i understand some people’s uneasiness. Battery life will be good, but many want more than good.

          • Skittlez

            of course there are different situations, i just don’t see why people are going nuts when they haven’t even seen the phone in the real world yet. i’m just saying, it’s got the same chipset as the G2, and this thing can get me up to 2 days. i don’t see 700mah less being the end of the phone. plus it’ll have a slightly smaller display which will save some more energy. i’m going to say this phone will be well rounded, and affordable. Best bang for your buck

          • malcmilli

            yeah i can honestly say the thing that worries me most is that the nexus 4 had worse battery life than the optimus G. So that factoid coupled with the less mah, and the fact that the less nexus had the exact same mah just led up to first impression dissapointment, more than anything. Not because it will be better, but just because they were expecting exact G2 internals.

          • acras

            They have to build these for “average” use , and then decide what “average is . Yea there are times you use the phone a lot more than others , and more battery would be nice . There are times I’m not home for 3 days . Get up at 5 , work 12 or 14 hours , go to my girls house , spend the night , got to work , etc. It would be great if a battery would last that long , but they don’t, and I don’t want the phone to weigh 4 pounds and be 3” thick to power through whatever I might decide to do. I solve that problem with a car charger . I’d love if my truck got 50mpg , but I get around 300 miles to a tank , if I’m going to go farther than that , I plan to buy fuel , I don’t bitch about Ford screwing up the fuel efficiency .

          • malcmilli

            i see your point, but your analogy is a little misplaced. Its not about wishing your truck was 50 mpg. It’s about hearing that there is going to be a new carolla hybrid coming out and the hybrid will be based on the 50mpg prius… but the carolla hybrid only ends up 38 mpg. Sure there’s nothing wrong with 38 mpg, but when you are expecting it to be 50 mpg, and when all other highend phones are releasing phones with 45-55 mpg, most people will be initially disappointed at the first impression of the news.

          • acras

            My analogy holds as much weight as yours because you , and most of the people who are complaining about the battery were basing your expectations off of conjecture . Just because LG made a phone recently with “X” specs does not in any reflect on other devices. Yes , a lot of sources say this phone is “based” off the G2 , but other than manufacturer , chip and general intended use , do we see very much in common? One could argue that this phone is based off a Motorola Startac too , they are both phones. Comparing the specs and hardware from a manufacturers flagship device to the upcoming Nexus phone has proven to be a fools errand the last several generations , yet people are still amazed that the Nexus doesn’t blow the doors off every flagship device in specs.
            It’s nice to hope , fun to speculate , but whether or not anyone wants to admit it , there has been years of proof that the Nexus will not be the spec king , but it will be a solid phone , and great for people who understand what it is intended to be.

          • malcmilli

            That would be true, if the Nexus 4 wasnt based exactly off of the Optimus G… so expecting the Nexus 5 to be based exactly off of the G2 is no different from expecting the nexus 5 base model to be in the $300-350 range. There’s actually a basis for that expectation. Obviously it was all speculation and rumors, but you can’t act as if that speculation came out of thin air. Nexus 4 had same sized camera, same sized screen, same chip, same amount of ram, and same processor. So when the G2 came out people expected the same, so they were disappointed in the battery size… even if they werent expecting 3,000… 2300 is a number that everyone gets disappointed with regardless… whether it was the moto x, or the HTC One, that number is a first impression sigh of disappointment. And the last nexus 4 was a “spec king,” best in class processor,screen size, ram, battery size. So yes you are correct, it was all wishful thinking, but the people were basing the nexus 5 based off of the nexus 4 origins. It will be a solid phone, people were just hoping for more than solid. the battery will last all day, but people were just hoping for more than a day of moderate use, that is all. They wanted the nexus 4 to progress as much as the rest of the market has progressed.

          • You Cant Win

            You guys really just need to walk away. Fighting to get the last word is unbecoming.

          • malcmilli

            Um, no body is fighting, we’re debating. And these comment sections are catered for debates. Trying to get the last word in and fully expressing your point are two different things. Also, its a comment section, no one is really trying to impress anyone here.

    • Rob Delaney

      unless it runs similar to a Moto X. That has a small battery too and a lot of people who say they heavy use it still get to the end of their day with 20% left.

      • Dan

        I have a VZW Moto X and battery life is fine. I last all day with heavy use.

        • Rob Delaney

          ^Proof that hardware and software integration beats a 3000+ mAh battery. Thanks for the heads up!

          • getreal

            Yes, someone stating once again that they get a “full day” with “heavy use” on their phone is proof… get a real phone with a real battery and then come back and talk to me about batteries. MAXX

          • Rob Delaney

            How is the Moto X not a real phone compared to the Maxx?

          • j__h

            But I want both!

        • whoa

          I have Verizon moto x and I get three hours on screen time before it dies with the brightness around 20% few days so far ive made it with out having to charge at some point some days twice. I use it all day for work and have to be near a charger but I guess your heavy use and mine our different. My RAZR HD maxx would last no more than 8 hours @ work.

          • mercado79

            I get really good battery life on my VZ Moto X. All day at work (9 to 7) and I’m usually above 50%. If I’m on wifi, I can get more than 24 hours. I was home sick last week, got 1d 7h 19m…all with nearly 5 hours screen time. Ridiculous IMHO. Again, that was on wifi. Nothing else special that I can think of. Maybe you just need to calibrate.

          • whoa

            No WiFi @work I’m out and about for work only one day in the office a month.

          • whoa

            How would I calibrate the battery? I’ve never got what other people say they get with any of these droid, droid 2, droid x, gnex, maxx HD, moto x

          • Dan

            I’m on 4G all day. No WiFi at all. Watching videos, constant streaming from Google Play. Checking multiple sites with Chrome. Then constant Facebook checking and updates and twitter plus junk emails coming in constantly. Have you brightness set on auto. Use chromes data compression option. Make sure if you can to turn Bluetooth and GPS off.

          • DJ SPY

            Where is this Chrome Data Compression you speak of? I just checked settings in Chrome and couldn’t find it.

          • Chrome Beta app, I believe.

    • Skittlez

      3000mah gets me through just about 2 days with the G2, snapdragon 800. i see 2300mah doing just fine.

    • sski66

      I get through the day with med-heavy use on my HTC ONE & it has a 2300mah battery, I know it’s not an exact science, plus I know what your saying, I wouldn’t exactly be upset if my battery was bigger, even 2700mah would be perfect for me.

    • iNomNomAwesome

      After using the Moto X for awhile now, I can say that it would be very difficult to go back to a phone that doesn’t have Active Display. It is actually incredibly useful.

      • whoa

        You notice any issues with call quality? People are constantly telling me I’m breaking up when I have full bars. Think its something with the noise cancelation.

        • ddevito

          Moto X’s call quality is the best I’ve ever had on a mobile phone.

      • ddevito

        I agree 100%. Active Notifications has changed the way I use a phone.

    • iamnotfan

      (It will be a perfect phone if it is more thinner)

    • jaybar

      Why are people still going on about battery capacity so much, yes it is somewhat important, but with today’s processors/OS optimization, it’s nowhere near as big of a deal as it used to be. Granted my work phone – HTC One with its 2300mAh battery, sits idle 75% of the time, but it can sit like that for 3 days easy without needing a charge. The Snapdragon 600 is very power efficient, and the snapdragon 800 is even more power efficient. Stop whining about a perfectly sufficient battery

    • Since the bluetooth is in error, I am hoping the battery is too.