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Motorola Updates Ice Cream Sandwich Timeline – Bionic and Xyboard 8.2 Officially Pushed to Q4

Yesterday, we pointed out a conversation that Motorola’s Punit Soni was having with DROID Bionic owners over the fact that the Ice Cream Sandwich update for the device has not arrived on time. Soni made it clear that the new group of Moto leaders was going to do everything in their power to not only make sure situations like this do not happen in the future, but also wanted people to know that they are working to fix the problem now. One of the first plans of attack was to get a new deadline for the Bionic, something he followed through on this morning. 

As many of you are well aware, the original deadline for the device was set at “early Q3,” but things have now officially shifted to Q4 of this year. The DROID Xyboard 8.2 joins it, even though the Xyboard 10.1 received Android 4.0 back in mid-August and the devices are almost identical aside from screen size.

For Soni’s sake and the rest of the new executive team at Motorola, I hope they can at least meet Q4 – and hopefully early Q4 – or it’s going to be a rocky start.

Via:  Motorola

Cheers Lambo!

  • bionic

    I totally disagree with you!! Why would it be verizons fault..quit blaming verizon for all the problems!! If you were with a different carrier the issue would be the same!! Shut up already!!

  • Doug

    I read all these comments but I still believe Verizon only got this update from Moto very recently. I am not a Verizon fan by any means but let the fault fall were it should and my opinion is Moto is to blame here. Otherwise they would not be so apologetic.

  • Scott Russell

    I have bailed on Verizon and their droid devices and now I have a huge bIll and lost my unlImIted data. I agree that they only care about pushing new devices. Gone to the sgs3 and love my new phone and carrier that already has great working jelly bean roms. The switch was worth it. Never going back.

  • BOB

    Blame them both and throw some Blame on Google! As much as I dislike crapple they do not let carriers dictate what is in there OS.

  • moto is terrible

    I will never buy another Motorolla handset. Late updates, late phone releases, bugs up the ass. Samsung just gained another customer.

  • Chris

    I just got off the phone w/ Verizon and voiced my complaint with my Droid Bionic and its constant data drop issue as well as the ICS Q4 issue. I told them that I was sold this phone last November with the promise that updates (ICS) we’re coming out “very soon” and that Verizon as well as Motorola dropped the ball with the Bionic. The end result; they allowed for me to choose a brand new phone (for free) from a list w/o renewing any contract (I’m able to get an upgrade in July 2013) My choices…Droid Razr 16g, HTC Rezound, Samsung Nexus2, or Droid Incredible, I took the Nexus. If your as fed up as I was, give Verizon a call, they may work w/ you.

  • mcdonsco

    Pretty sure verizon has no say with the wifi xyboard

  • RoadsterHD1

    You don’t have be rooted. You don’t have to root either. Get it now and enjoy the Bionic how it was meant to be. It comes with an over clock from 1.0 to 1.2

  • RoadsterHD1

    Get ICS now for your Bionic and when OTA is out you can flash back to GB and get the final version assuming its better than the leak. Read directions and get your data back. Dint worry you won’t regret it it works perfectly. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1727605

  • your mom

    cough** Fragmentation …cough cough***

  • gahhh stupid button erased everything i wrote. so here is the cliff notes.

    1. Is it cheaper to toss old phones and give everyone a razr and just stop wasting time and money on develeopment of software for old phones?

    2. moto grow a f**ing pair of nuts and release the update without verizon . if apple can do it so can you. vzw is ultimately draggin the moto name and reputation through the mud.. not their own.

  • average joe

    Samsung has my business now.

  • Mr Waldo

    Just install the ics leak. You can find the dl link in xda forums and you don’t even need to root

    • Bionic

      Isn’t doing it without root risky?

      • Mr Waldo

        It went very smoothly. Everything on it works including camera. The phone just thinks it was installing a regular update since its an official build from Moto. Pop it on the SD card, boot into recovery mode and install the update .zip file. I’ll admit i was a skeptic but it’s so worth it. No data drops and my GPS works again

      • RoadsterHD1

        et ICS now for your Bionic and when OTA is out you can flash back to GB and get the final version assuming its better than the leak. Read directions and get your data back. Dont worry you won’t regret it it works perfectly. http://forum.xda-developers.co

        • Bionic

          If i want to get back on the OTA path do you simply delete the file from your SD card and boot into recovery again? By the way, how exactly do you boot into recovery? Sorry im not experienced.

      • RoadsterHD1

        You don’t have be rooted. You don’t have to root either. Get it now and enjoy the Bionic how it was meant to be. It comes with an over clock from 1.0 to 1.2

      • RoadsterHD1

        No. Its not risky. It works fine. And you always get back to OTA Upgrades

  • another reason why you don’t buy an Android – you end up getting screwed with updates

  • ManiacJWJ

    Which Android phone manufacturer actually upgrades their phones as the upgrades come out? My boss wants me to buy Android to support all the other Androids we have. We only have Androids because Verizon didn’t have iPhones. We have iPads for the sales and marketing staff. We are very happy with them. Most are happy with Android phones because Palm Treos never got updates either and that’s what they used to have.

    I rooted my OG but it rebooted spontaneously quite frequently so I’ve been hesitant to root my Bionic. I read really smart people talking about how great Android is but I’m just a computer guy (who supports our small company’s phones) that is stuck with a phone that never gets upgraded. The smart people must be the rich ones too who can afford to get the latest Android phone every 2 months and that is the reason they love it so much.

    I can’t buy the latest phone every 2 months but I sure would like to know which manufacturer actually updates their existing phones while users are waiting 2 years for another one.

    • Buy This

      First, if you want rock solid stable GB, go with eclipse. It is flawless IMO. The .232 leak is supposed to be the most stable and many are using it as a daily driver/for development. If you are looking for the updates and the ease of use with rooting/rom-ing, I would rock a Gnex, or wait for the next Nexus. Most customers with VZW, if they have been on it for a decent amount of time, can take advantage of the opportunity to get their upgrade eligibility bumped up by calling about the Bionic. Assuming you dont have unlimited or mind losing it, you can pick up a nexus subsidized for 99 after a 50 dollar rebate. I am planning to do this soon as we will actually pay less after losing the unlimited.

  • Sporttster

    Seriously….Moto is talking last gen op system while the world moves on to Jelly Bean. It took them way too long just to get ICS out and by that time the talk was about JB. Every device they have should be on ICS by now and we should be talking release dates for JB, not ICS still.

  • socalrailroader

    The Atrix 2 had been scheduled for Q3, now it’s “Further plans coming soon”, nice Moto, real nice 🙁

  • cb2000a

    They probably have one guy working on it…at home after hours…

  • Jim McClain

    lets face it, bionic is to old and not worth the attention, and really neither is ICS,should be pushing Jelly Bean before its to late

  • joejoe5709

    Dude. And then what? Another twelve months before Jelly Bean?

  • dylan84

    And just like that the Atrix 4G loses its ICS update that was supposed to happen in Q3 2012. It doesnt matter that much to me since I’ve been running Jellybean for awhile now. But getting those drivers from motorola would have been nice. There’s always a chance they canceled the ICS update to instead bring JB, but I doubt that.

    • Based on what they announced at the RAZR HD launch, I honestly would be surprised if they didn’t do just that. If you’ve done a crapload of work to go ICS, it’s somewhat incremental to move to JB from there..

  • Bionic

    My prediction is this. For Motorola phones they will settle on 2 major OS updates via OTA per model. Nexus devices will be updated straight from Google unlike now. Google might even put into place the option to update via USB cable on a home computer.

  • Bionic

    We will learn more on Monday. I would expect Bionic ICS update to be released as soon as negotiations have concluded.

  • AnGeLFaCe777

    Congratulations bionic owners ! You have been crying and blaming Motorola for a long time now. Stop defending Verizon ! they are the problem.

  • Cory

    As a RAZR owner who is now on my 5th device (this one sent directly from Motorola brand new) TRUST ME you want them to take as much time as they need to make sure ICS is working. The ICS update, although you wouldnt realize it due to it being so incredibly under reported here, kills the battery life of the RAZR. You get about 10% battery burn for 10 minutes of screen on time.

    • My major issue is with Motocast. I love the idea of the app but its a resource HOG! As soon as it starts syncing the phone will come to a screeching halt! Oh and have you had any issues with the phone randomly refusing to connect to service (3G, 4G, Voice)? Mine decides to stop connecting and the only solution is a reboot.

  • Tony Allen

    How about they do something really awesome and make it the first Moto phone to get Jellybean

  • Jim McClain

    its really stupid, people are waiting for ICS and its not relevent anymore, they should be getting Jelly Bean

    • dgi

      very stupid. even people with iphone 3gs have ios 6 already. Everybody with crapple gets their update on the same day. google needs to step it up. i’m thinking about switching to the iphone 5. sure it might be playing catch up with android but android is also playing catchup with android.

      • JoshGroff

        Could just get a GSM nexus. Heck, even the VZW Nexus actually managed to get JB now. (Not like it matters, if you don’t mind flashing unofficial firmware, it’s had it since a few days after the GSM variant.)

  • Simon Karpen

    Given the discussion about negotiating OTA upgrade counts… there seems to be a real simple solution – offer upgrades as a “download to your PC and then install” instead of OTA. It works for Apple (upgrade via iTunes), it works for Samsung (upgrade via Kies), there’s absolutely no reason it can’t work for Motorola.

    • Bionic

      Makes sense to me.

    • cmonnats23

      Waow, never thought about that. youre right. would solve literally ALL problems.

      • Except then NO ONE would EVER update. So problem not solved. And that’s taking a step back in evolution.

  • Bionic

    Verizon basically wants future Motorola phones to only receive one major OS update per model because it will force customers to upgrade every 20 months in order to get the latest software. Google has stepped in and said no way, we want 2-3 updates per model. (excluding nexus models)

    • AnGeLFaCe777

      I am agreeing with you. These people need to complain to Verizon so they change their ways. They have been burning us for a long time now.

      • Anon

        Or perhaps Motorola should have done better contract negotiation with Verizon in order to avoid this in the first place?

        I won’t deny Verizon has pulled this crap. However, to avoid that, I think that phone vendors need to look at the end-user as their customers –*not* Verizon –and then negotiate with that in mind.

        As much as many of us dislike Apple, that’s one of the things they do get right. They release an OS update when they want to, and customers get it. And Verizon actually lets them, because they want to sell that phone enough.

        This is what Motorola, Samsung, and HTC should be doing. If necessary, they should be joining forces with Google and saying as one voice to Verizon, AT&T, and others, “This is how Android updates will work from now on. You will work with us on this, or you can be stuck buying third-tier phones from Chinese vendors. How end-users see our phones (and make no mistake, they see our branding, not just yours) is important to us, and we’re not going to let you frack it up.”

        • Agreed, I hope once Google has had some time to settle in and make some major changes in Motorola we will see faster, stabler updates and hopefully they can put their foot down and stop being Verizon’s b***h.

        • AnGeLFaCe777

          That is what Google and Motorola are trying to achieve. We have to remember that San jay is not on the picture any longer. Woodside and Google will change things on Motorola mobility. We are seeing the changes already with the droid m and the other Razr family members

        • Bionic

          You have to remember that old Motorola had very little negotiating power. New Motorola, with Google behind them, has a ton of power.

    • Shh. That’s secret only people who know the handshake are supposed to know that.

  • Bionic

    The fact is that Motorola has completed the ICS build for Bionic. It’s negotiations with Verizon that are ongoing between Google and Verizon which are holding things up. You can thank the assholess at Verizon for the continued delay. It’s not Motorola this time folks.

    • Q

      lol @ “negotiations” .. why does Verizon/Google even care at this point?

      • Bionic

        You don’t understand. Topics on the negotiating table include how many official OTA updates future Motorola phones will get under contract with Verizon. Google has stepped in because they are tired of verizons BS. Verizon is holding the Bionic ICS update as a hostage during these negotiations. The ICS build is complete at. 244 but Verizon is refusing to sign off on it during contract negotiations.

        • Q

          I guess.. doesnt matter anymore really though. The Bionic is the device that made me leave Motorola.. loved the OG, Droid X, and I waited forever for the Bionic and got it on the first day.. Havent looked back since ditching it for the Nexus

          • George Davis

            Doesn’t matter to YOU. To those of us still under contract with a Bionic, who can’t afford to pay full retail price for a new phone, it matters a great deal. Believe it or not, there are other people in the world besides yourself.

          • AnGeLFaCe777

            Great response 🙂

          • AnGeLFaCe777

            Good luck with the radios issues!

        • AnGeLFaCe777

          They complain about Motorola, but they do not realize the mess they did with the GN and its updates. It is a nexus and it was getting late updates. That shows who fault is it VERIZON ! 🙂

          • Bionic


        • Lambo_21

          but .246 has been signed off on

          • Bionic

            signed off on and being held hostage.

  • Jigga_Z

    I think you should give Moto a chance to differentiate the “new” Motorola from the “old” Moto. Punit fielded comments on Google+ (impressive on its own), was informed about the time-chart, and made the adjustments to it the very next day…clearly not a coincidence. It’s a good start…give it time and see what he can do before you write off Motorola. They could make a big change if they do it right. As a formed Droid X owner and current Nexus owner, I’d love to see them do it.

  • What about the Razr, it doesn’t even give a timeframe for JB.

  • ddevito

    And people wonder why they’re coming their no-longer-supported phone for a iPhone.

    • SolipsisticPsychologist

      You know, you used to talk about Android phones non-stop back in the day. Then you are gone for a while. Now you post occasionally, but every single damn thing you post, is about the iPhone. I swear you and Tim must have bought your iPhone’s together, because you both talk about nothing but iPhones. So, it is apparent you both own Apple devices now, and it’s incredibly strange why you would continue to come to this site, especially when everything you and Tim post is just talking up your magical closed phone. Actually, it’s not really surprising, because one of the main characteristics of an Apple enthusiast, is to constantly berate others for not owning the magical iPhone. That and not being able to deal with facs, reality and logic.

      • ddevito

        Ummm…no but thanks for the good laugh :p lol

        I do own an iPad 2, an iMac and an Apple TV, but also use a GNex, Nexus 7 and a Logitech Revue. So what’s your point? That I have to choose one side and only one? Please buddy get real.

        My point was that OEMs do such a poor job supporting and updating Android phones it’s no wonder people want the iPhone so badly.

        • AnGeLFaCe777

          I am agreeing with you and disagreeing with that fool lol. I love Motorola everybody knows that, but i love my Sony products and i just bought the N7 and it is butter, i do wish it would it had a better audio.

      • AnGeLFaCe777

        He has the choice of having android and apple stop being ignorant. He may like apple to take pictures, which is the only thing it is good for.

  • ddevito

    That’s ridiculous. It will be two OS versions behind still as Key Lime Pie/Kandy Kane will be released. Shame on Motorola and Verizon.

  • Kevin

    The Bionic issue has soured me on Moto pretty badly. They knowingly released bad software on it and still haven’t bothered to fix it. I don’t think that this mess is Verizon’s fault, because they have had no problems updating the Razr.

    I had a Bionic from launch until last month. Most of this year, my Bionic was working fine. Then in early June, I got a notification that a new update (905) was available. I was in the soak test group, so I got it a few days early. Immediately after I installed the update, I started having connectivity problems with LTE. In areas with apparently good signal, the connection would just drop. The signal bar would still show a full signal and a 4G icon, but the color would change from blue to white, and I would have no connectivity. Sometimes it would come back after a few seconds, other times it would take 10 minutes or more. It happened multiple times per day and made LTE unusable.

    Shortly after the soak test went out, people started posting in the private soak test forum about the problem. And it wasn’t just a few people that were having problems. In a relatively small soak testing group, the connectivity thread grew to over 20 pages in a weekend with people reporting the problem. So Moto knew about the problem before the update was released to the public, and they released it anyway. Today if you look at the official Motorola forum or the Verizon forum for the Bionic, you will see multiple threads about this same issue. And here we are, 3 and a half months later, and they still don’t have a fix.

    My 4G was so bad that I just left my phone on 3G-only mode all the time. I finally got fed up and contacted Verizon in late July. They were nice enough to let me switch to a Nexus which I am very happy with.

    • Bionic

      Trust me when I say this. This is Verizon holding it up.

    • WickedToby741

      How did you contact Verizon? Did you talk to a store rep or make a phone call to customer service? I would potentially be interested in receiving the same trade-up.

      • Kevin

        I called them and told them that my 4G wasn’t working. I said it hadn’t been working since the update. I explained the situation in depth. They offered me a replacement Bionic… a hoop to jump through, so to speak. I took the offer and called them about 3 days after I got it with the same problem. They admitted that it was a known problem but played off how bad it was. They offered me a HTC Rezound or LG something. I declined. I called back the next day and got someone else. I told him about the problem and that I had been offered a new phone and that I originally declined but had changed my mind. He admitted that it was a known problem too, but he didn’t play it off. He was a Samsung fan and offered the Nexus. I accepted.

  • EC8CH

    Dear “New” Motorola:

    I bought the OG Droid when it first came out. I now have a G-Nex. My contract will be up around Thanksgiving of next year. Please release a super Motorola Nexus phone around that time and shove it down Verizon’s greedy throat.


    A trapped Verizon customer looking for pure AOSP.

  • 640k

    I don’t know why you guys continue to bitch about owning a bionic or moto not living up to expectations or being ignored. You have no idea what it was like to be ignored until owning a DROID3. That phone was a serious mistake and a serious mistake if you bought one. My wife and I both owned one . It was the biggest POS moto ever released. For whatever reason their remained an interest on eBay and I was able to get us upgraded to something with 4G. Moto never looked back after they released that bore, and if you spoke with any VZW rep, thery insist it was their best 3G device offered.

    • EC8CH

      Don’t ever, EVER listen to VZW reps.

      Guy came into our business and was almost pleading with us to get Bionics when the RAZR was already out and the G-Nex was dropping in less than a week.

    • George Davis

      So because the Droid3 was lacking in support, Bionic owners are not allowed to complain about the Bionic’s lack of support? Flawless logic there.

  • Dennis

    Unless Moto gives me a better phone or a nice credit I will NEVER buy another Moto product! I bought the Bionic day one and it has been a glitchy mess that drops data every day. That combined with the fact that we still do not have ICS is ridiculous! I disliked my Blackberry Tour, but I hate my Bionic!

  • Diablo81588

    Although I have the leak installed and it works perfect, this constantly being pushed back is ridiculous.

  • Benjamin Parker

    Please stop blaming Motorola for the OTA delays. As the community well knows, they have made tons of test builds that they sent for approval to Verizon, only to have them shot down. If you want to blame anybody, blame Verizon.

    • AnGeLFaCe777

      These people in here are ignorant. They know it is Verizon’s fault that these updates do not happen because they want to sell the new devices as soon as possible.

      • rick

        then how do you explain iphone upgrades never being held up? is google such a bitch that they can’t get the same deal as apple?

        • AnGeLFaCe777

          One boring device per year not hundreds of androids. That explains your question.

          • chris125

            That would be true but even the nexus was held up. hence google has no balls and can’t take control like apple can. If they can’t even do it with their nexus devices on the carriers it has nothing to do with “hundreds of androids”

          • AnGeLFaCe777

            The other nexus seem to get the updates pretty good in the other carriers. We all know that the fascinate was another failure on Verizon that is why Verizon prefer the best Motorola. Samsung has been bad to Verizon.

          • AnGeLFaCe777

            You can not compare the nexus with the i phone when it comes to sales. Verizon just want to sell devices. The nexus do not have the owwww specs people were looking for. How do you think the Razr max was top dog in Verizon 2011 🙂 good design, good battery, good display not the greatest but still good. Also, Moto actions, Motocast etc.

        • Butters619

          I mean the iPhone 4 didn’t get turn by turn or Siri probably for the same reasons. You need to entice people to buy the newer model. There is no reason why that phone couldn’t support both those features.

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    • Peter responded I am amazed that a person able to make $6854 in one month on the network. did you look this(Click on menu Home)

    • zepfloyd

      It still works both ways. Many of the builds sent are crap. Maybe if Moto (and other OEMs) sent over a build worth a damn it wouldn’t take months on end. At the same time it shouldn’t take that long to test them either.

    • enigmaco

      My droid 3 got screwed by both companies

      • Matthew Merrick

        as did my dad’s droid X2…

        • Mack

          Agreed. At least CM7/CM9 makes it bearable until I can get something new in the coming months.

          • michael arazan

            My friend on sprint has the 1st photon from last year, same specs as the droid bionic, but made for sprint. Sprint offered him a one time deal to buy an ICS feature phone for 24.99 because the photon will not be getting it even though it was advertised to be updated to ICS..

      • Benjamin Parker

        That’s because they have half of the needed ram to run everything ICS has to offer.

    • You can’t tell me it doesn’t take more time for Motorola to add their crap to the builds rather than just use AOSP. So Motorola must share some of the blame.

      • Benjamin Parker

        Yes, but not to this extent. Early on, Motorola was firing out new builds on a rather quick basis, which helped them iron out issues. It’s my belief that when their builds started housing new security that blocked fxzing back to 902, that is when they started sending their builds to Verizon. Everything since then is Verizon’s fault.

    • Michael

      This is why I left VZW is because of all there BS Lies in regards to forcing people to use there VZ Navigator and not up dating there OS’s . It’s also the reason why I bought a Droid Bionic from a friend who went to the iPhone, he’d left and went back after a year. I am on a month to month contract and have the insurance, I’m sure if I root it or put a JellyBean Rom on its MY problem not VZW’s. Like this guys comments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVXMjVpMX2k

  • mgamerz

    The atrix has pretty much lost support. Not that it ever seemed to have any.

  • Justin W

    If the Razr M is upgraded to JB before I get the official OTA, I will NOT be happy. I’m thinking about jumping ship to that HTC dlx phone.

    • AnGeLFaCe777

      Good luck with battery life and buggy user interface 🙂

    • HTC is JUST as bad if not worse. I had the Rezound and they broke promise after promise to the point where I finally complained to the FCC and BBB but of course by the time the complaints got processed the update was done pushed out and over with.

  • mcdonsco

    Thats annoying as hell…last time i buy a moto tab.

    When i bought this thing the tf prime was the only tab with ics and moto promised the xyboard would have it soon. The rest of the specs were good enough, size was perfect for my use and the build quality top notch like most moto devices, so despite the tech world hating it i picked it up anyway. Figured i could wait a litte while for ics not a big deal, but were now coming up on a year and still no ics and then it gets pushed back AGAIN!!!

    Probably will never get jellybean either.

    Once surface hits im definetely selling this and my laptop, replacing them with a surface and a kindle (for free book rentals).

  • corymcnutt

    I’ll have my new Note 2 with Jelly Bean before my Bionic gets updated to ICS!

  • mustbepbs

    Man, I hope the new Moto never lets something like the DROID Xyboard slip ever again. What a complete piece of ****.

  • Ben Modica

    I don’t understand, I’ve been using an Ice Cream Sandwich leak (I’m not rooted) on my Bionic for months now and have had NO problems. Does anyone know what’s the big holdup for the official OTA update?

    • Benjamin Parker

      The answer is Verizon.

      • Kevin

        If the problem was with Verizon, the Razr would still be waiting too. But it’s not.

        • Buy This


          that is such bad logic I won’t even waste time correcting you.

        • Bionic

          Wrong. Verizon is holding the update as leverage for current negotiations between them and googerola.

        • AnGeLFaCe777

          They wanted us to buy the razr at that time by not allowing updates to the bionic use your logic .

    • henrywm

      How did you install a leak without rooting? I have read that rooting can void the warranty and the unlimited data. Does installing a leak without rooting do that as well? I am good with computers (been using them for about 30 years ever since the TRS-80 days), but I have zero experience with rooting phones.

      • Ben Modica

        Here’s the link to the page that has the directions I followed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771993

        It’s not rooting your phone and won’t affect your unlimited data. As for the warranty I’m really not sure so do it at your own risk. But I’m not an expert and I had no problems upgrading and have had no problems since. It’s a much better experience than Gingerbread.

  • AhsanS

    So it’s not get JB?

    • Benjamin Parker

      They want to give us ICS first before trying Jelly Bean.

  • Bob G

    Sad that other phones like the ATRIX has went from getting ICS in Q3 to “further plans coming soon”

    • kixofmyg0t

      Well, I’ve played around with Moto’s ICS Atrix build. Trust me it’s NOT ready.

      • Bob G

        If you’re talking about the version on xda, then that’s a port.

        • kixofmyg0t

          I’m not.

  • Ryan

    As much as I love motorola hardware I think the bionic will be my last. I’m tired of the neglect on motorola’s part beyond the point of sale.

    • Not to stick up for Motorola, but every OEM is like this. Ask HTC Thunderbolt owners what they think about HTC. Ask Spectrum owners what they think about LG. All of these OEMs produced too many phones last year and are struggling to update them.

      • The only one that could keep up with updates on there flagships was samsung because they only released two flagships the s2 and note

        • AnGeLFaCe777

          That is one of the things sammy is going good. Releasing two flashy devices per year. They can improve on their weak radios and build quality.

      • mgamerz

        Samsung had no problem upgrading the GSII months ago, yet motorola can’t even do it in nearly a year.

        • AnGeLFaCe777

          Razr had ICS first than GS2 turd. Do some research !

          • mgamerz

            Curiously, the bionic still does not.

          • AnGeLFaCe777

            You will have it hold tight 🙂

          • mgamerz

            I have an atrix. Likely will never get ICS.

          • AnGeLFaCe777

            The atrix is very old. By now you should have another device if you want to be current.

          • mgamerz

            The atrix has the same processor as the Xoom, and it runs jellybean fine.

          • AnGeLFaCe777

            The xoom is stock and it came at a later time. Motorola was releasing to many devices per year. It’s hard for them to keep up.

      • Tyler Chappell

        I rooted my Thunderbolt 1 week after owning it, and I bought it 2 weeks after it came out. It was a very frustrating experience with constant reboots that would kill the battery life, mediocre battery life (even with the 2750mAh extended battery) which I had been using from the first week. Once I finally flashed a Gingerbread ROM on it 2 months before they officially released GB, all of my problems were solved and I have been pretty happy with it ever since. It is built like a tank but my next phone will either be the next Nexus, the Razr Maxx HD, or the rumored HTC phablet.
        Fortunately, the Thunderbolt has a pretty strong dev community behind it that has kept it alive and kicking for me and will last me for the next several months.

    • Mindchatter

      This phone was trouble from the start. When first introduced at CES 2011 it was ahead of it time given ohs and ahhss . First they changed the way it looked then they scrapped it then it disappeared off the radar then it came back after a 9 months waiting of its release in September it finally came out to only be outdone within weeks. Im still pissed off for waiting that long for a phone. I expect a lot more from a company like Motorola Very disappointed in their products except for the OG Droid. But this will be my last Motorola phone.

      • Shane Belanger

        Your last Motorola? Even with Google now owning them? How does that make sense. They are a new company essentially.

        • WickedToby741

          They are the same software engineers literally, not essentially. And the bootloader is still locked.

        • AnGeLFaCe777

          I will see these people cry once they see the great products that Motorola and Google will release in 2013. I will remember the names of the cry babies.

          • Hopefully they put the greatest, newest software of Google into premium Motorola hardware then they tell Verizon to STFU and let them do whatever they want with it update / bootloader wise. Basically, what the GNexus should have been.

          • AnGeLFaCe777

            If you think Google is not sticking their noises in Motorola mobility you are wrong. Motorola were the second one to come out with the three inside buttons. GN was the first one, which tells me that Google told Motorola to do it like that. Also, the software it is the closest that you can get to stock. If Moto blur looks like stock, then the nexus will not be a nexus. It has to be some type of differentiation. I am 100 % confident that Motorola will be even better than they are now. I feel they are still the best , they just need to work on the camera software period.

  • Motorola can rot in hell for what they did to us bionic owners.

    • Laki S.

      You know, for the longest time I vehemently supported Moto and the Bionic because I wanted so bad not to feel like I got jipped when I bought it. But having it tossed to the wayside and just sh*t on since release day and having to rely on leaks to get this phone to work properly… I think I’m just done. I don’t think I even wanna wait for the new Maxx HD anymore. I think I might hop on the next Nexus, provided it come to VZ.

      • Moto sucks at rolling out new OS and it took the bionic situation for us to see that. Im willing to give moto another chance before i go apple anyday. Becides the droid razr maxx looks awesome! And now that moto said that something like the bionic problem wouldn’t happen again then I’m gunna give moto another chance.

        • Laki S.

          Now, let’s not go crazy now. Apple? Seriously?? There are way better Androids out there. If I walk away from Moto, I’m not walking away from the entire Android community. I still very much love Android. My N7 has been my daily addiction. I can’t wait to see what new phones come out before the end of this year. What I do know, though, is that I’m tossing this Bionic before Christmas.

        • AnGeLFaCe777

          You are making a good decision. You need to remember that Motorola is own by Google, great things will happen in 2013 trust me i know about technology .

    • Kevin

      Agreed. I’m not buying another Moto again unless they happen to do a Nexus.

  • KennyVeltre

    Thank god i switched to SGS3.

    • hkklife

      I also switched from a DB to a SGS3 but it’s a mixed bag.
      I LOVE the GS3’s big 720p screen, fantastic camera, additional internal storage, 2Gb RAM + S4 performance and ICS. However, I detest Touchwiz and the S3’s build quality, battery life, GPS locks and RF performance life blow in comparison to rock-solid Moto quality. I also miss the revamped Webtop mode & microHDMI output on the ICS beta on the DB.
      Give me a VZW Moto Nexus Phablet and I’ll be the happiest guy ever.

      • KennyVeltre

        CM10 fixed the battery and touchwiz problems for me. The GPS still sucks though.

  • Lambo_21

    its sad, he said he understood where the owners were coming from then this… he also had a new post on his G+… and i qoute:

    Punit Soni11:46 AM+1
    There will be no more delays. We updated the page with what we think are timings we can commit to and meet. And my team will work super hard to ensure we meet them. You can hold me accountable for them.

    Also note: We will review the status of upgrades and update this page on a monthly basis.”

    Punit Soni12:06 PM+2
    I dont think Dec 31 is acceptable guys. Its going to be way earlier. ”

    • Can I get a link to this? I just read the whole thread and missed this one.

    • Lambo_21

      how does this get a marked down? seriously its just further info to the story

      • EC8CH


        • SolipsisticPsychologist

          I would absolutely be that guys friend. If you can commit to a haircut that heinous, and add a mustache to it, heck, that is a brave man worthy of some admiration. Of course, though, I would only rock that haircut and stache, if I wanted to make absolutely sure that I’d never be in the company of a woman ever again, outside of standing behind one waiting in line somewhere. Still, that is dedication to a look alright, one that might make little children cry in terror, but still a look and most likely a lifestyle.

          (edit for: missing word)

        • AnGeLFaCe777

          This dude still crying after all these years lol.

      • Droidzilla

        Probably because you started it out with the commentary, “it’s sad.” It’s not sad that the new exec is actually taking things seriously like updates to an outdated phone; it’s actually quite encouraging! This signals a change of direction for Motorola Mobility and confirm the hopes that many of us had for the outfit once the Google crowd took power. Nothing’s fixed yet, but it looks like good things are coming. If the Goog guys don’t deliver for Moto, then we can all cry in our beers and hate on them as much as we like. But in the meantime, at least give them a chance to make good on their word.

        • Lambo_21

          The its sad part is he says no more delays. And behold it gets moved to q4… a delay. And talk is now cheap, they need to act all they have don is talk

          • Droidzilla

            What he said was, “My team knows to take your complaints seriously, we are working hard to update the Upgrades timeline pages to reflect the right data, and then we WILL stand next to those timings and will meet them.”
            They have now updated the upgrade timeline, and we’ll have to wait and see if they meet the deadline. Referring to what Motorola said pre Google (and, hence, Soni) is kind of irrelevant, unless you don’t know what’s been going on over at Moto.

          • Lambo_21

            no i do know whats been going on. there was a certain leak on a certain different site that spoke about it… still we all know ICS is done and been approved (via another leak) so why not release it… (obviously they other leak has a big say in ehy they cant yet) hopefully Q4 just means next week haha

          • Droidzilla

            Ah; that would explain it. Up until recently, Motorola Mobility was a part of Motorola’s overall business. Not too long ago, Google closed an acquisition deal; basically, they bought the branch of Motorola that makes phones. Prior to now (which includes the whole debacle with the Bionic), Motorola was under their old management. Now, Motorola’s under management picked by Google. This new guy, Soni, is from the Google team, essentially. So all of the old deadlines, promises, designs, bootloaders, etc. were from the non-Google Motorola. This new promise, Q4 for ICS on the Bionic, is the first promise from the new management (from Google, basically). We have yet to see how they’ll handle current, older, and upcoming Motorola devices, so it’s a whole new ballgame. If they fudge on this promise, then we’l have reason to doubt.

            So far, though, things look promising for the Google management team in Motorola. This could be what turns the tide and makes Motorola great again!

          • Lambo_21

            lets hope, or i think many will be done with Moto. I hope they can make up for the Bionic debacle as i love the quality of the phone… just the software and empty promises are killing it quickly. you know

    • nexusplay

      Exactly, this is the new timeline that he and his team have now committed too. If he misses this, then by all means go apesh#t on him. Who knows what was happening in Motorola before he got there. He seems to be working extremely hard though.

    • Suspiro

      Q4 2013

      • Lambo_21