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  • So this is a world phone? The connectivity tab shows the se GSM bands that show up in Photon or Droid X3, and do NOT show up for droid bionic (all on the motodev site).. Huuuge plus I that’s true, definitely getting this over nexus if this turns out to be the case

  • i swear if you combine the razor and the galaxy nexus you lose something that made android big, with the razor you can not switch out batteries, and with nexus you cant add additional memory via micro sd.

  • For all you folks out there set on the Sammy Nexus over the Razr, let me ask you this. Did our have you owned the Droid Charge yet? I have. And based on my experience with that alone I am sadly rejecting the new Nexus. Here are my reasons:
    Lte radio sucked
    Web speed was not what I expected for Lte.
    Radio had difficult time switching between 4g, 3g, and 1x.
    Radio would get stuck on 1X coming out of Path tunnel in Jersey City.

  • Uh, according to Texas Instruments the 4430 operates at UPTO 1 ghz….?   while 4460 operates at UPTO 1.5 ghz (though the phones are unclocking it to 1.2ghz).   So this being a 4430 at 1.2ghz is…impossible?  Please someone clarify this for me?  I’m confused. 

  • Archos swear that the 4460 is the most powerful CPU available. Also remember not all 1.2ghz behave the same. If they did then the the nexus wouldve gone with the 4430 but they went with 4460 because its better plain and simple!!! Sorry moto i really loved the razr design!!!

  • I thought so… The 4460 was reported to be delayed so they’ve been instead overclocking 4430’s for the time being.

  • All the info my mind overload ….. need … razor … need gnex… need money… for both… donations welcomed…

  • Sorry if this is a stupid question but: what is the difference between the 4430 and the 4460? I know that the 4460 has a higher stock frequency but is that the only difference?

    • The 4460 has a higher CPU and GPU clock and the capability to do Stereoscopic 3D in 1080p (vs. only 720p in 4430). In other words, yeah, basically no difference other than higher stock clock speeds.

  • 4430???? Um so basically this is a bionic in a different skin. Garabage!! If it was the 4460 i was gonna get this over the Nexcus but now ill pass!! Plus a locked bootloader with blur lololol

    • The only difference between the two is that the 4460 can handle stereoscopic 3D in 1080p. This phone doesn’t have 3D so it makes 0 difference. Don’t be silly. Now if it was supposed to have a 4470, then you’d have reason to be upset.

  • Dang that stinks I’m still kinda jealous though on how thin the RAZR is, but I’m still buying a Nexus!(:

  • Just checked the page, and it says 4430, not 4460 as in your screenshot. They apparently made a mistake.

    • Damn you, why did you have to point this out (and be right)…back to the drawing board…Nexus/Razr/Nexus/Razr/Nexus/Razr….UGH!

      • My main question is, Rezound or Nexus?  The Rezound name is almost enough to turn me away, but it looks to be a good phone.  Motorola’s bootloader would keep me from using AOSP, so no go for me.  Still unclear on HTC’s bootloader policy on VZW.

      • The only difference between the two is that the 4460 can handle stereoscopic 3D in 1080p. This phone doesn’t have 3D so it makes 0 difference. Don’t be silly. Now if it was supposed to have a 4470, then you’d have reason to be upset.

  • Quite crazy that this will have similar innards as the Galaxy Nexus. I still wouldn’t touch this with a 10 foot pole though. Motorola puts out so much radiation, its crazy.

  • When the Bionic was released, I was 100% certain that I was going to wait for the Galaxy Nexus. Now that the Nexus and RAZR have been announced, and the specs are fairly close, I’m 90% leaning towards the RAZR. I’ve owned Motorola phones (RAZR, KRZR, OG, DX, wife’s DX2), and I love the build quality. Also GB has been out long enough now to have most of the major bugs worked out, so I can live with 2.3.5 on the RAZR for a few months. 

    I’ll let other people run ICS through its BETA testing on the Nexus and enjoy it on my RAZR when all the bugs are worked out in early 2012.

  • question: Razr is sporting these sensors:
    ACCELEROMETER Yes
    MAGNETOMETER Yes
    PROXIMITY SENSOR Yes
    AMBIENT LIGHT SENSOR Yes
    GYROSCOPE No
    BAROMETER No

    Does the Nexus have a Gyro or Barometer?Also, Razr qHD SUPER AMLODED screen, Nexus is sporting a 1280×720 AMOLED (not super)?

      • Which is the same that was used in the Galaxy S and Nexus S which came out over a year ago… which was announced by PowerVR 4 years ago. SIgh… old technology. 🙁

  • Honest question, not saying this is true but if it were, would you choose:
    1) locked/encrypted bootloader with the HD Netflix or
    2) unlocked bootloader with SD Netflix  ?

  • Let me get this straight, just to be clear, the processor that is going to in the Galaxy Nexus is a deal breaker for some, but the exact same processor in the RAZR is a selling point for these same people.

    Did I miss anything?

    • LOL isn’t that funny?  No you didn’t miss anything, it goes WAY over most of these guys heads.

    • the Nexus had pretty high hopes attached. Everyone expected 1.5ghz or at least something better than the SGSII. Turns out this processor is capable of much more – it’s just been detuned for some reason. That might be a good thing. Maybe the processor isn’t working as hard and will be more stable – also battery life might improve?

  • This is good news.. all previous reports said the RAZR had the older 4430 processor.. but I guess it has the latest and greatest.
    I am curious about the graphic chip. We know the GNex has the older graphic chipset … how about the Razr?

    Also, I’d be curious to know about the Camera.. if the Camera is leaps and bounds better in the Razr than the Bionic.. then this phone will be a serous contender for me.

    ICS is just a matter of time before this phone gets it anyway.

  • Some of these fan boys for the G-NEX are starting to remind me of iPhony Drones…. “RAZR is thinner and lighter? Dont care. RAZR has better battery? Dont care. RAZR is global? Dont care.RAZR has SD slot? Dont care….”

    • I agree. Too many ppl bashing manufacturers like they can make a better phone. Can’t please everybody. You don’t like it, as with all consumer products, don’t by it! I don’t like skinny jeans, but I ain’t gonna clown on the makers or the ppl thatdo like them. I just don’t buy them!

    • Preference. Choice. It’s such a funny thing. I guess it comes down to what’s important to you. Thankfully in this scenario there’s not really a bad choice. Both phones are great andi ‘s all up to what you like.
       
      And yeah… those things you mentioned are either only slightly better (1750Mah vs 1800; 7.1mm vs 8.9mm; etc.) or really not a big deal (sd card slot, global, etc) to most consumers. GNex has a better screen, better processor, removable battery, not to mention ICS!! Sounds like you’re the fanboi overlooking important specs…

  • +1 for RAZR… 3 out of 4 demos for the G-NEX lock up the phone… check out the Engadget vids on NFC and Face Unlock for proof. Both show it locks up and needs a reboot, and they are just doning basic functions. Dont tell me they can “fix” it in 3 weeks… this ICS needs more time in the freezer.

    • all you need to do is look at the “unsellable” BIONIC and see why a lot of people are staying away from the RAZR…

      • I would say the Bionic is “unsellable” because even though it’s a brand new phone, people aren’t buying it because you can get a MUCH better phone (RAZR) in two weeks for the same price. Drop the price of the Bionic to $200, and it would no longer be “unsellable”

    • Don’t know if it is perfect or not, but I can say that I don’t intend to use the Face Unlock anyway. I don’t lock my phone and if I did I would use a pin.  If this were the only reason I wanted this phone I would have to investigate it further but luckily it has nothing to do with my decision.

      Each person has a certain list of what is important to them and have to make their choice based on which phone meets their requirements the best. I like what I see with the Razr and if it didn’t have an encrypted bootloader it would work for me. But being a Nexus developer phone is one of the top requirements for me so at this point the Nexus works better for me.

      As I stated everyone has different needs so bickering about it is somewhat silly. I very much look forward to a Motorola Nexus device in the future!

  • No gyroscope? Minor bummer. The bionic claims to have one but apparently there is no driver installed since Android SensorManager does not report a gyro.

    The MotoDev RAZR site does not seem to list a real GPS!! Just assisted and “simultaneous” whatever that is.

  • I’m debating over expandable sd card slot and the removable battery…..hhhmmmm…..I currently have a OG Droid and carry an extra battery for when the phone dies and I’m moving around without been able to charge it, I only paid like $6 for the extra battery….I like the way the Razr us looking. Nice and slim for being a LTE phone…and the LTE G-Nexus is MIA, they only said that its going to be thicker, hopefully not as thick as the OG Droid…

  • Galaxy Nexus sounds like a girls phone, maybe it can compete with the HTC Rhyme and *phone for most the most girly award. 

    Set the scenne…Hey bro what phone is that?  Ohh it’s just my Galaxy Nexus or G-Nex for short.. Eww did you get a free murse with that to carry it?

    I’ll stick with the Razr.

  • People, people. Lets see what the phones are like once we can put them in our hands. Right now, I can not make a solid decision. One day I am for the Razr, the next day I am for the Nexus. They are both great phones. I am not a developer so I am not to hung up on the openness of a phone. I have the Tbolt and I find myself a slave to trying new roms to get the phone to be something that it is not. When I had the OG Droid and the DX they were very solid phones. I have never owned a Samsung phone, but they have had their share of issues as well. Let’s just wait to see what the phones are like before we go picking sides and blasting people for choosing one over the other.

    • I also have the TBolt and it’s been nothing but a lot of problems. I guess I’ve learned my lesson about buying phones the day the come out. I’ve enjoyed 4G speeds but I need better battery life and a mobile hotspot that actually works. I want the RAZR but I think I’m going to wait a month or 2 before actually getting it!

  • Been hearing rumors of the Nex with poor battery life with LTE…and with the ICS bugs at the release presentation…perhaps the Razr is the best choice?

    • For me, the bugs at the release just proved they were actually using a phone live, which I think is impressive.  I don’t think I’m worried about that – the battery, though – we’ll have to wait and see.

    • Which bugs, the “Map” instead of “Man” on the voice to text and the face unlock?  or were there others that I missed?  Those are software bugs specific to those two apps, have nothing to do with the hardware

      • unless they put a smaller battery in the Nexus, even with the larger screen, due to the AMOLED should have better battery life than a 4.3 without AMOLED (RAZR).  Plus, you’ll have custom kernels out within a week on the Nexus, so that you can underclock and extend battery life…RAZR is (thank you very little MOTO) locked, so who knows…but I doubt they put a smaller battery in the Nexus than the RAZR

  • Im for sure a moto fan, a curious nexus fan, but with HTC and the rezound being so quiet and if I were a betting man HTC has something up their sleeves.

  • Won’t be buying this phone not just because of ics, pure vanilla, quicker updates, and etc. My main reason is Sanjay. Guy seems to be toooooo arrogant. And with the Bionic there was no let’s take care of the customer kinda feel. It was released at 3 bills knowing that they had the Razr coming out in a short amount of time. So sorry Moto you have lost one for now. 

  • AM TAKING THIS OVER THE NEXUS;… JUST CAUSE IT GOT THE SPECS PLUS GLOBAL CAPABILITIES;.. GSM RADIO INCLUDED…  ICS CAN WAIT…

  • Seems like the smartphone arena just became a two way horse race between the GNex and the RAZR. Not so much being said lately about the iPhone4S. Still waitin on the Nokia WP7 to step up and show us what its got! 🙂

    • If people are smart, they will choose the razor instead of the nexus. The razor will be better due to its specs and great features.

  • hmmm…need a side by side of rezound, razr, and g nex… also positives and negatives… maybe ill make one…

  • Not to put anyone who’s getting this phone down but I truly do think NFC is going to become a very important feature once the Nexus drops. and its already been confirmed that the bionic isnt NFC capable. and also the locked bootloader is also something that turns me away. Also motorola hasnt exactly been real considerate when it comes to their customers as of late with the bionic and the xoom. all these things are just telling me the nexus is a no brainer here. But i hope people don’t think im bashing the phone cuz im not. If it wasnt for the nexus I would be getting this phone over the rezound easy. (oh yea the nexus camera is probably better than the razr’s camera too, although i could be wrong but we all know that motorola doesnt exactly use the best cameras)

    • and idk if im really feeling the whole non removable battery idea. idk im just sayin….

    • how is this better than the rezound? worse screen, camera…software…in terms of sense vs blur…but depends on your opinion…

      • better screen? depends on if you would prefer SUPER AMOLED + or a higher resolution. I bet if I put them side by side you would pick the razr’s screen. lol and to tell you the truth I really don’t like blur or sense im more of a CM7 with launcher pro kind of guy…but thats just my opinion.

        • yeah but its some sort of pentile…pentile still sucks..i mean yea id get the nexus… but… i can’t decide… im so confused on what to get… id like to get all but i have to get one and then another when i have an upgrade in december…ill probably make a giant list thing… but if u think of it… the rezound comes with beats- plus value.. has a great camera, sense is nice, hardware is great…also has a better front cam if it is 2mp… i mean i want ice cream… but dam why cant it just be updated immediately to the rezound… then itd be the clear winner.. i dono… im undecided at the mo… also.. the razr is so nice because its sd and stuff is on the outside and it is thin…

          • Its pentile? Idk it still looked like a really good screen in the videos i seen. and i do believe the rezound’s camera will probably be much better than the razr’s based on moto’s past cameras. Idk man i just feel like the nexus is just the smarter choice you know? I mean look how long it took the thunderbolt to get an official OTA gingerbread update. 

          • when did super amoled screens start sucking. everybody loves them on gs2 this one is higher resolution and the same oversaturated screen.

          • Not really, i was wrong with the sg2 i went to check it out and you can change the saturation on the front facing camera. You can also change the icons if you put go launcher. Samsung is lacking good radios and build quality, when they do they will give Moto a battle.

      • Its super amoled advance , which means it is the second best display on android devices. nexus and rezound has the best one because it is HD. The gs2 and the razor has the second best, if you compare the pixels on each devices.

        • From what I understood is that the Razr will have 960x 540 Super Amoled Advanced and the Nexus will have the 720 HD Super Amoled + display. The 720 is the HD part, Super Amoled + is what is in the Droid Charge, just higher pixels. Super Amoled Advanced (RAZR) is new tech. And I was sure I heard the Nexus was pentile also.? The battery in the Nexus is a STANDARD Li-on 1750. The battery in the Razr is an ADVANCED Li-on sealed 1800 mah battery. Moto replaced the rear camera on the Razr so we have to wait and see. So did the Samsung with the Nexus and it takes great pics that we saw. Nexus has a 1.3 front camera and the Razr 1.3 HD front camera. Someone keeps saying Razr has no Hdmi out. It is on top next to charging port. Last but not least Moto designed a new LTE radio that can handle 75 + mbp steady while consuming less battery in the Razr. I havent read anything on the Nexus about its LTE radio.
          Correct me if I am wrong.

          • Thanks for your information bro. They put top notch technology in the razor. Moto will sell so good with this device. The only best display better than the one in the razor is the super amoled Hd of the nexus.

          • AnGeLFaCe77, I read that the Nexus has a 720p HD Super Amoled + . The Razr has 960 x 540 Super Amoled Advanced. I watched a video about a month ago showing the progression of super amoled. At that time they hadnt got 720p or 1080p to work with the super amoled advanced yet but it worked with super amoled + technology. Advanced is a step up from +. HD has nothing to do with the Super Amoled.
            Again correct me if I’m wrong.

          • From what i read the best display are the hd of the nexus and the rezound depending on the resolution. The razor has the highest resolution along with the other moto devices and some htc devices as well. By putting the amoled display advanced, it will be one of the best display on the market. Are you getting the razor?

          • I want to see them in action first. I dont know the proper way of explaining this but I will try in my own way. HD stands for high definition and you will see that behind 720p or 1080p tv, computer screen, phone etc. So ignore the HD part that you see before you see Super Amoled + on the Nexus. Same tech as in the droid charge and the SG2. The razr is not HD because it is only 540 but it has newer tech in Super Amoled Advanced. Both the Nexus and Razr are pentile from what I have read. Same with batteries, Nexus has standard 1750 mah battery and Razr has Advanced 1800 mah sealed battery.
             What I see is 2 great phones both with a couple flaws. No sd slot in one and one you cant remove the battery. Hardware spec wise even other than camera mps which dont matter if camera sucks,and battery goes to the Razr. Screens remain to be seen.  The Razr better built and more accesories. Nexus OS for tech heads. Moto for the new LTE radio and call quality which is opinion only and a guess.

          • You broke it down pretty good. The nexus will be good but i feel the razor wins. What do you think?

          • Yea, this could of been the Bionic, but i read that moto needed to release the bionic no matter what. I love the new features in this beast. The hd ffc will be awesome. By the way which device do you have right now? Are you getting this device October 27?

          • I have 7 lines and im a phone freak. I have had them all it seems. Right now I have the bionic and X2, wife has charge, daughter has dinc 2, son has dinc 2 waiting for the rezound, og droid, og dinc, dx laying around somewhere. Had a tbolt for one month until it about gave me a stroke, then a charge that gave me a stroke. LOL. I have had several Razr’s also.

          • I dont plan on ordering anything after buying the ruler of all things then end up ruler for 2 months. I want a bigger screen but I want the whole package. I will pick one up next month but not till Htc brings theirs out and hands on all three. Right now I choose a good clean shave (RAZR). I believe everyones fears and issues with Moto will fade with the Razr.

          • lol bro, i also have the bionic and droidx2. I love technology in general, but i have always been more interested in devices. I am excite it about ICS when it comes to the Razor by January 🙂 There are so many things on the new operating system.

  • I think it comes down to this, is Moto going to fail again and use terrible software for their camera and for their switches between 3g and 4g? 

    I’ve always raved about Moto build quality, but I think they’ve moved away from that a bit, they continue to make the same mistakes( bad camera, bad screen, bugs) and so now I think I’ll take my money to the Nexus.  Even if it has bugs and is plastic, I’m ready to try a new company and they look like they are trying much harder to push the envelope than a company slapping on some “kevlar” on the back of their device for some unneeded pizazz.

    • I agree about Moto making the same mistakes. I always think their next phone will have fixed the previous’ phones issues. False. I’m using a Droid X as a placeholder until the G-Nex arrives. Love the screen. Hate the hard buttons. Hate the performance. Will still check out Moto’s phones at the Verizon store. Hopefully they learn in my lifetime

      • I’m glad someone agrees because I really feel like I’m seeing something other people aren’t.  Motorola has basically done nothing to improve their devices as a whole in 2 years.  The original Droid has a superior screen than the Bionic, how on earth could you let that happen?  The camera is just as bad as it was 2 years ago, why do they keep doing the same thing over and over. 

        At some point and I guess I’m at that point, people will realize this and bail.  Especially when other companies are really pushing themselves and improving their weak areas.  Motorola needs to go back to the drawing board, completely redesign a new phone (not the Razr) and work on the core features of the phone.  Screen/Camera/Connection.

        • The droid x has the lcd as well. You only like the droid because it was unlock, but tell me how did your manage your 256 of ram lol? The droid bionic has 1 g of ddr2 ram 🙂 nice user interface and super fast. They will fix those minors bugs, which are software issues.

          • I’ve never rooted my OG, ever.  I could care less about it being unlocked.  If it was software issues, why does my OG camera and all Motorola cameras take terrible pictures STILL after 2 years? You can’t answer, because there is no reason for these problems to still exist. Motorola is out and everyone knows it.

          • The cam is a deal breaker for you, but it may not be for other people. I love the build quality, radios and call quality due to the nice speakers they put in it.

          • the only reason moto hasn’t changed their ways and still make sub par phones is because dumb assess still buy them, oh and the retarded. but we can’t blame them, that’s why they go to special Ed classes. my og was the best they’ve built since. Droid x has major bugs, it deleted all my contacts on it’s own cheap screen and camera quality I could go on. bionic same thing. so no more blur or moto for me in that case. almost went to iPhone because of moto. but this nexus might save me.

          • The D1 was great and had the BEST speaker I’ve ever seen in a phone. Why they couldn’t have the same speaker quality in all the phones since I have no idea. You could darn near use the D1 as a boombox… 🙂

            And wow… Liderc never rooted his D1…. Wow Wow that is a feat in and of itself.

      • Oh, so they finally have decided after 2 years to use a proper screen.  How about their camera and 5 second shutter lag?  Is that another 2 years?  Sorry I’ve lost all faith in Motorola.  I’ve used Motorola for the last 8 years of my life, 6 years with the Razr, 2 years with the OG.  They are no longer the innovators they once were.

          • I’ll bet you anything the Razr will have the same bad camera and software.  I’ll bet that it’s loaded with the same bloatware and will be locked down tight.  Enjoy your kevlar backplate that can’t be removed.  I’ll enjoy my Nexus.

          • For me, the radio alone makes it a no brainer. Better signal and call quality is something I have come to expect from moto and I have never been down. Add micro sd and hdmi and you have winner winner chicken dinner.

          • MLH is superior to HDMI. Weak radios? My wife’s Droid Charge was leaps and bounds better than the OG Droid and X, gets better signal at the house. Coming from two Moto Devices and one Samsung device, the plastic feel is the last of my worries.

  • Is there a side by side full spec comparison of the RAZR and the G-Nex available to view yet?

  • I would think that having to hold a phone so thin would cause me to drop it more…I’m also picking the nexus up because of the screen, OS, nexus brand, and camera (the moto camera probably still takes washed out photos).

    Am I going to care about the lack of an hdmi port?

    The nexus is gonna have a mini sd card slot like my OG droid right?

    • The only thing the Nexus has on this is ICS.  Admittedly that’s a pretty big “Only thing”.. 

      When the RAZR gets ICS, it might end up being the much more attractive device unless you’re a Android guy who wants pure google and all that stuff.

      • And instant updates no bloat and vanilla android.. an hd super amoled 720p screen is nice and the fact ICS is native at 720p.. those are pretty big diff for me.. ill take thicker for those any day erryday

      • The sotware is a small thing the Nexus has over this.  The Nexus is a developer phone, and that is the biggest thing of all. 

      • That is what i keep telling people, but they do not listen. There are a lot of people that prefer the skins over vanilla. Vanilla can be very boring. Once Moto send the update to fix the software issues for the bionic, and the bionic gets ICS, it will be even better. My only turn off about my bionic was the build quality on the back of the phone and display. What bothers you about yours?

  • If Motorola Mobility had been run competently since the split, I’d be really tempted by this phone.

    G-Nex FTW!

  • What about the delays? When is this phone going to be delayed? C’mon Moto, you’re starting to disappoint me. 😉

  • So this is going to be the same as the Nexus that everyone was complaining about being a 2007 gpu?

  • I was pretty much set on the NEXUS, but now I’m starting to have second thoughts.

    Which phone has better build quality?
    Is 4.65in too big?
    No SD card when shooting HD?
    Thinness?

    How about anyone else? Care to put my doubts to rest ha…

  • The only reason some people are the nexus over this because of the OS, AND DON’T LIE ABOUT IT!

    • EDIT: The only reason some people are still getting the nexus over this because of the OS, AND DON’T LIE ABOUT IT!

      • I have many reasons for choosing the G-Nex over the Razr, but my main reason isn’t hardware or software, it’s the clearly demonstrated incompetence of the company since the split.

      • The tapered top and bottom on the RAZR is ugly to me, as well as the obnoxious DX style hump at the top. I’d much rather have a larger and better screen, unencrypted boatloader, Google support, and most importantly NO BLUR.

      • OS, unlocked bootloader mainly.  Being a nexus device and getting immediate updates is also a plus.

        RAZR owners will be waiting 6 months for ICS, then another 6 months for 4.1 

    • EDIT: The only reason you have one like is because you liked it YOURSELF, AND DON’T LIE ABOUT IT!

      But seriously, you had just posted this comment and a second later it had a like.

    • True dat except ONE massive difference *nexus* (no bloat, vanilla, instant or close to it updates

      I personally NEED that 720p super amoled advanced screen

    • Not true.  I would get the Nexus because it is a developer phone that does not have an encrypted bootloader. I would choose that over any phone. The software is just the icing on the cake. It’s too bad since the Razr looks like a nice phone. If it wasn’t encrypted it could be an option but it’s not.

      • Sorry, I just don’t see this happening “soon”.  Soon to Moto means within a year.  The Bionic was delayed for how long?  Replaced in 6 weeks.  If they thought they’d be getting ICS in a reasonable amount of time, why put capacitive buttons on the device?  Until a company changes their ways, I can’t stand behind them.  I stood behind Moto long enough and they refused to improve in areas that they were severely lacking.  If they man up to their mistakes, I’ll gladly fall back behind them with my purchases.

        • Those are 2 items that had more to do with hardware, not software updates.  The XOOM has been 1st in getting Honeycomb (software) updates among all Android tablets.  Yes maybe Moto would have been smarter by just scrapping the Bionic all together when the delays started happening.  Again, I suspect those delays had more to do with the Tegra2 processor they were trying to get to work with 4G LTE and battery life.  The Bionic is a nice phone, 2 of my friends have them.  It’s just too bad they couldn’t figure otu the problems back in the 2nd QTR of 2011.  
          Look at HTC, most of their phones are still on Froyo and the TB has been rumored to be getting GB soon.  We’re almost to Nov and they promised by the end of Sept.  Be glad you didn’t get a TB.  I will never buy an HTC phone for this reason alone.  I’m quite happy with my DX1. 
          Again as stated earlier by Kellex, Moto has been the quickest with software updates for NON-Nexus phones.  I don’t think we’ll have to wait 8 months this time around.  

  • I’ll get Ice Cream Sandwich to you in Q1 of 2012! Trust me. It’ll be just like the times where I gave you guys the first 4G tablet and said I’d unlock bootloaders towards the end of 2011.

    • It still is 2011, the 4G upgrade is hardware and this is software. The droid X was the first non nexus phone to get gingerbread. So there’s some positives also.

    • BTW I am sure you saw the live event on YouTube, and you saw how the phone didn’t respond to some things that they wanted to show, that tells me that the ICS still needs to be improve.. SMH on that.  

    • Yeah, hey Sanjay “The Check is in the Mail” I am sending you a tip for your great job on unlocking the bootloaders as you promised lol 😛

      • It’s clearly for safety reasons and regulatory guildines that they aren’t unlocking things. You’ll get raped, then slapped with a lawsuit from the FCC if you were able to unlock the bootloader on your phone.

        • Damn, Timoh you made it sound like being locked up in Cell Block H, Raped, slapped and restricted LOL 😛

          • You don’t want any of that do you?! That’s why we should thank Moto for what they do.

          • Moto, has done a great job on the obvious materials and hardware, my only problem with Moto is their lack of openness to come out with devices like the Nexus or devices that HTC and Samsung have came out with. It seems Those two OEM’s either listened to their consumers or have the artistic view of Google and Android. Moto, I think is in bed way too much with Verizon. The RAZR looks hot and i am starting to see Blur move into a positive direction with the look, feel and functionality of a better skin. Of course I wish you could take off the VZW crap they load on the device and have more control over the apps that are preloaded or baked into the device.

            Moto hasn’t had that big hit since the OGDorid and yes, the OG was a exception but you would think that as a company Moto would’ve kept rolling with that momentum, The DX was good, (but compare it to the HTC EVO), Then the Bionic which is now a good device but lost a lot of revenue and momentum. The RAZR is looking great and to be honest if the G Nex wasn’t around, I would be seriously considering the RAZR. IMHO I think its the best Moto device to date so far and I hope since Moto Mobility will be purchased by Google a more Google influence will work its way into that division which I am sure will be the case..

        • You can unlock your phone because…guess what, it’s yours….The worst they can do is void your warranty, look at the iPhone fiasco.  Your statement is 100% bullshit.

  • Still can’t see anything about this phone that would make me want it over the Galaxy Nexus, oh well

  • Yeah this phone is looking better by the minute…but of course I’m buying the nexus but if I wasnt this would be it

  • Basically, the TI OMAP4 is based on the newer A9 core which is faster clock for clock than the A8 based 1.5GHz competition.

    The sophistication TI speaks of is the A9’s superior core architecture among other things.

    • This is going to, replace my Droid X. Moto has always built durable, quality phones, plus they are one of the better companies for updating their phones.

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