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HTC Thunderbolt Update Starts Tonight – Fixes Reboot Issues, Is NOT Gingerbread

It has been almost 2 months since the HTC Thunderbolt received an update that started causing an overwhelming number of random reboots for users.  The last 6 or 7 weeks have been extremely frustrating to owners who jumped on this device thinking it would be kept up-to-date, bug free, and with the most current of Android operating systems.  So far that hasn’t necessarily been the case, but there may be a tiny light at the end of the tunnel.  An update has been readied by Verizon that should at least fix the reboot problems that you all have been experiencing – it’s not Gingerbread (Android 2.3) though.

It should be available to pull at 8PM Eastern and will bring a number of fixes, plus that desktop dock app that we are expecting to see when the Incredible 2 receives GB next week.  And hopefully this means that 2.3 is just around the corner.

*Note@TeamAndIRC is recommending that rooted users not accept the update.  

More info here.

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  • Davebrown2242

    Gotta love the direct inefficiencies of two companies not having their stuff together.  Gingerbread on the Thunderbolt is tuning out to be more like an IOU on Christmas day.  This is my first and last HTC products.  HTC Official reply I received this morning:
    Thank you for taking the time to contact HTC, David. We will be happy to
    assist you with your inquiry regarding the Gingerbread update for your
    HTC Thunderbolt.

    Currently, we do not have any information
    regarding the Android 2.3(Gingerbread) update for the HTC Thunderbolt.
    We urge you to keep an eye on our official website, our official social
    media outlets(Facebook and Twitter), and your carriers website for any
    future announcements regarding this update.

    We apologize for the
    inconvenience this has caused, David, and we hope this does not detract
    from your use and enjoyment of your HTC Thunderbolt. Keep in mind that
    we are here to answer any technical questions or concerns you may have
    between 6am to 1am EDST, 7 days a week for your convenience.

    To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs




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    Awesome, I got a canned response and less information.

    Here is a awesome phone, we will make it awesome when we are ready, and that time is ………

    Way to go HTC, Bravo! Encore!  This will not be the last we run into this I fear!  All other newer phones are currently switching to 2.3.

  • Gary Sanders

    I still haven’t been pushed the update and I’m almost always connected to WiFi. Anyone else still waiting around with their Thunderd*ck in their hands?

    • Jester4281

      Yeah, my Thunderreboot still has not received the update and I have been on both 3g and WiFi, as my g runs like VZW’s new data pricing………completely like shit. I am so losing face being a proud owner of a Thunderbolt , I got three people at work with the iCult iPhone and they are loving my reboots and terrible 3g coverage, am just waiting for update and 4g to really bitch slap them in the face , just biding my time those arrogant fruit phone owners.

  • Jester4281

    Still no update, just the quick checking for update screen. On a even more annoying note the Gingerbread update ran on my wife’s Incredible 2 and seems to really be missing me off that she gets no reboots, gingerbread all on a newer , cheaper , smaller phone. If VZW would off a swap I would jump, the incredible 2 seems to be a great phone.


    I still cant get the update it says service unavailable or it will just close when looking for the update someone please help. 


    I still cant get the update it says service unavailable or it will just close when looking for the update someone please help. 

  • Hydroradio

    Allow me to retract a previous statement I said about Verizon B.D’ing about an unlimited mobile hotspot feature for the grandfatherd unlimited data users… Apparently, its all in who you talk to. I went to a store and asked about adding the feature and the young lady claimed it didn’t exist, and that I would have to get the tiered data plan for my hotspot.

    Well, I called 611 today and asked a rep over the phone about the same thing… Her response was yes. So the $30/month Unlimited 3G/4G Mobile Hotspot feature is available IF you already have a 4G unlimited data plan. If at first you don’t succeed….

  • sdrchv8

    I still don’t have the update! Really starting to piss me off… My phone reboots at least 18 times a day. And my 3G keeps shutting off. When I “Check New” nothing happens…. Help me please!!!

    • sdrchv8

      Downloading update right now… Finally!

  • Jester4281

    I don’t know if this is a provider issue or phone issue. I see this update it supposes to help data connectivity. Recently my phone has been dropping data more then it has had it, is this the data connectivity issue everyone is having. Where the 3G icon disappears and then no data, but moments later it comes back?

    • Guest

      The same thing has been happening to me too. It’s so annoying! Plus the reboots, I’m starting to hate this phone!

  • Adam Taylor

    It still won’t update for me.  And it just restarted right in the middle of checking for updates.  Ugh.

  • alex drum

    has anyone else noticed the 3G symbol has changed?

    • Warlike1919

      YES I HAVE

  • Kenney1281

    this update makes the mobile hotspot go away 

  • tomNasty

    i was gonna OTA the update than root again

  • tomNasty

    if i OTA update will i lose root access or are you even allowed to get OTA’s when ur rooted

  • Anonymous

    I accepted this update like a dumas$ and now my Skype doesn’t work at all. I’m gonna root this SOB soon.

    • Curtiscomeclean

      My GF did the update, and she’s out of state, I held back, I bought these phones for video conferncing specifically, and now her Skype doesn’t work either…mine still does as I have not had reboot issues and have held off on the update.

  • Marty B

    No reboot issue and improved battery life.

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  • Matt Jenson

    idc about this update. I just rooted my thunderbolt and installing roms right now. now i will get the most out of my thunderbolt. and i have no regrets about any of it.does anyone know if theres a stable version for the cm7 rom for the thunderbolt? and where i can download it?

  • Viewlessfrog

    anyone here getting extreme phone lag after the update. Ever since i got the new update for the TB when im charging my phone and get up to one or two bars left in the battery status under about phone my phone lags down really bad.

  • Tbolt30

    Do not update…You will loose your Hotspot and gain bloatware and nothing else!!!

    • Tboltuser

      Lost my hotspot already, but I didn’t get the update.

      • Guest

        Still have my hotspot…actually using it now to comment here!!!

      • I tried to pull the update on Friday, but it just gave me an error message.  It has not tried to push out to my phone and I still have my hotspot, so I’m going to stay this way as long as possible.  I’ve never had a reboot issue and can really care less about adding more bloatware to my phone.

  • d-roids

    love the look feel and potential of the phone. hate the fact that big reds been finding astonishingly new ways to screw their t-bolt users.

  • Crazyrunner33p

    I like this update, no reboot issue and improved battery life.

  • I paid $32.67 for a XBOX 360 and my mom got a 17 inch Toshiba laptop for $94.83 being delivered to our house tomorrow by FedEX. I will never again pay expensive retail prices at stores. I even sold a 46 inch HDTV to my boss for $650 and it only cost me $52.78 to get. Here is the website we using to get all this stuff, LiveCent.com

  • Guttatae22

    ANOTHER LIE SMH tabbed layout huh smh what a joke took away the ability to use skype video chat which I TRULY appreciated from kellex and droidlife now thats gone this phone is becoming more and more of a joke every post then with the update there isnt gonna b sense 3.0 well its just a thunderbolt u cant get to much right???

    • Anonymous

      ha yeah thats why once the bionic is out the tb is gone. I am tired of all the issues with this phone and how vzw and htc fail to admit this phone is bug infested and never should have released when it did.

      • Tim242

        The bionic will be as bug infested and slow as the rest of moto’s junk. Keep talkin trash…you will see soon enough.

        • Anonymous

          Ha because the Droid 3 is slow? And I can say what I want I have the thunderbolt and know how it is. Just because you are stuck with old hardware and software. And I will see and be the first one to come back and let you know how much nicer it is than the TB.

          • Tim242

            Old hardware? Hmmm metal vs plastic. Thunderbolt wins. Software? The
            Thunderbolt will see Gingerbread soon. Even if it didn’t, Gingerbread is
            nothing special. You are such an idiot. You keep trolling every day. Get a

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  • viewthis66

    as with other droid-lifers… i don’t see a tabbed app layout. as a side note i received the update around 4:30pm Pacific STD time. the only thing i’ve noticed besides the build number changing was the graphic for the hot spot widget. i really hope gingerbread comes in a couple of weeks. all i really want it is better battery performance. even though i’ve purchased the 1700mAh i’ve only seen a minor increase in battery life.

  • Blackmar1988

    I haven’t been able to get the update. Anyone else having problems?

    • d-roids

      yea same here. but i dunno im not down with the whole killing the mobile hotspot deal. lately big reds been finding ways to screw us over.

      • Tim242

        It was a limited time offer…it was supposed to end sooner. How is that screwing anyone? You people think everything should be free. I hate the sense of entitlement that so many of you have.

    • Guest

      Yup, keeps stating error but I think I might pass on the update since I still have the free hotspot and want to keep it.

  • Mariobros27772

    AAnyone know what the tabbed app menu is or the desktop cradle app?

  • Anonymous

    I’ve had the Thunderbolt since launch and have only ever gotten one random reboot so far.   My only real complaint is the poor battery life, other then that I love this phone.

  • Mkerney5115

    So just found out about the update today. Went to Software Update, Check new to the update and my T-Bolt doesn’t want to update. Once you touch on Check new, the “Checking for new Software available screen pops up for like 5 secs and then quits checking. Can anyone help me with this? I have a unrooted, stock T-Bolt. I’m also hearing that other people have the same problem.   

    • Mkerney5115

      Nevermind, read the comments. Problem solved.

      • John Kappedahl-O’Brien

        did it just pop up? having same prob

  • Warlike1919

    Well i called verizon and asking them, why i am not why everytime i click on check new update,  it just search and then goes away , only answer answer they could give me is that, they dont  know about any update  that should be rolling out,  and if they are one rolling out , it could just be there nextwork being over taxes from all the people trying to get the update… so verzion customer service is just useless.


    I want my DAMN leaked Skype to work again. This is my last non nexus phone….even if I have to drop VZW

  • what happened to the tabbed layout? i guess sense 2.1 will come with the Gingerbread update

  • Dcraynor

    I can’t get the update. Am I doing something wrong??

    • Warlike1919

      Good to see I am not the only one having this problem

    • try rebooting and checking again

  • I’m definitely rooting my TBolt now. I’m operating on the MR2 leak. Can anyone link me to the proper guide on XDA to root it properly?

  • Dpmpv

    does this have the 4g/3g toggle like the firmware leaked a month ago?

  • Ler56

    I have a question, does this update fix the reboot issue after all? I don’t care about hotspot or bloatware, I jus want to know if it addresses the reboot issue. And when people say “the front facing camera is useless” does that mean you aren’t able to take pictures with it or is it just “useless” as far as Skype goes?


      The leaked Skype that was working now is blocked.Gps locates faster.

  • Custom Colonel

    Hey don’t get frustrated guys!!  i know the phone sucks,but remember just root and ROM and done!  You bought the phone and its on you to fix it.  Don’t blame HTC and Verizon for this.  When you buy things, and they are not good quality, the customer is the one that’s supposed to fix it.  So for the people who are whining, just root and rom or you have no room to complain.  Remember, this is the customer’s responsibility.  HTC and Verizon have nothing to do with this.  If you complain and you don’t root and ROM then you have a problem.  You should be voiding your warranty on purpose to fix the broken product they sold you.  Verizon and HTC and Android are looking out for you always!!

    LOL…android sheep.

  • [email protected]

    Just to let you know, my free hotspot quit working and required me to call to order it already and I have not gotten the update. I used it often, so this update is not for that.

    Now, i am wanting to return phone, maybe false advertising?? Supposed to be flagship model, and front camera is useless?? I am furious other phones are getting updates, etc.

  • ERROR SERVICE UNAVAILABLE Check for Software Update under Settings when service is available. … That’s all I get when I check for new software in 4G coverage here in Phoenix, Az

  • HydroRadio

    Well, I’ve just about had it… I held off rooting my TB waiting on this update. At this point I might as well root. All the talk about a $30 unlimited mobile hotspot for those of us who got “grandfathered” in with unlimited data plans is B.S.. The Skype I got from the terrific folks here at droid-life is no longer compatitable and the market version doesn’t support video chat on the Thunderbolt. No Netflix, No Gingerbread, NO NOTHING!!

    I’ve never been more disappointed with a phone purchase in my life till this point. Time to breathe some new life into this thing… I should’ve held on to my Fascinate a bit longer… but Oh well… Thanks Droid-Life and the rest of development community for what y’all do cause at least we got options.

    • Dameon81

      I totally agree!  I loved my TB at first, aside from the crappy battery life, and the minor GPS issues, but once they tried to “update it” the first time and screwed it up, I’ve wanted to smash it against the wall on a daily basis!  SERIOUSLY debating rooting now…..

    • Anonymous

      Glad you guys are finally coming around!

      Root your phones and you will never look back!

      The options are limitless!

    • DaveDoug

      I’m on board with Hydro here, I’m at wits end.  Just went to the store to exchange mine because the power on button is sticking, and found out I’ll be receiving a previously owned phone (not a surprise) with a 90-day warranty instead of the year (thanks Verizon/HTC?  Because I’ve had a problem I get a reduced warranty as my reward?).  Q2 came and went, no G-Bread.  I’ve had about 6-8 reboots a week, which isn’t bad compared to others on here but it’s still enough to be extremely disappointing. 

      I also agree on HR’s other point, thanks go out to all of you for sharing your experiences and for getting info out to everybody.  I’ve had the T-bolt since St. Patty’s day, and I’ve had heartburn and quiet disappointment since about April.

  • Dameon81

    Yea, so when I go to “Check New”, it searches like its doing something, and then goes back to the screen.  Nothing happens!  Any thoughts???

    • TB Sully

      Getting the same here, since last night.However seems it’s not really an update I want if all it really does is take away hotspot.Then again I don’t want a surprise bill next month for using it

    • Tom Buckton

      I am having the same issue.  I called support about 45 minutes ago and actually got someone who knows what they are doing.  Apparently if you are in the cue to get it pushed they are bouncing the update request.  They have disabled the ability to pull this update and are only allowing pushes for now.  All users are expected to get the update within a week.

    • Dameon81

      Cool, Thanks for the info guys!  I’ll just keep trying to wait as patiently as possible!!!!

  • SpenceJT

    ” ‘Reduced’ number of device power-cycles and resets”  Reduced?  …not… …FIXED?!

    • it is fixed. it sjust to cover their ass just in case

  • Iphilluv

    Got the update, goodbye free hotspot, hello to froyo again. No
    gingerbread yet! FAIL! Nothing like having an out-dated phone but having
    to paying more to use its capabilities, Thanks V u suck!

    Of course via my Twitter account I get this:
    VZWSupport @iphilluv We do not have a release date for Gingerbread. Once
    available, it will be pushed to your device. Thank you. ^LA

    Anyone at V know Q2 is over? HTC should ban them from selling their phones.

  • Rysdwn

    can you still use hotspot for free after the update

    • Warlike1919


  • Android Junkie

    Ugh…I’m due for an upgrade in a couple weeks now and I was considering getting the TBOLT, but I’m really not so sure now.  I know I don’t want an i*hone, but what should I get?  I live in sort of a rural area and 4G may not be available here for quite a while so maybe and Inc 2?  I sold my OG Droid and got an Inc and I love it.  Both are great phones. 

    Any suggestions for my upgrade with VZW’s current line up of phones or should I just hold off for now and see if anything new comes out in the next month or two?

    • Dameon81

      If 4gs not an issue, check out the DX2 and DI2, or look at the LG Revolution if you want the capability for 4G.  Plus the Droid 3 comes out Somewhere between this week and next, if its not out already

    • Anonymous

      I have the T-Bolt and LOVE it and have never had a problem. It seems there are plenty that do, but I never base a decision on the incompetence of others.

      I just got my daughter an Incredible 2 yesterday and it is a nice phone also. It works just like a mini T-Bolt except it is 3g and much slower. Side by side mine blows it away by far when downloading anything such as apps or watching youtube. Other than slow download speeds the phone is great and I’m sure you would like it. She chose that one pretty much for the smaller size… They also just came out with the ability to root the Inc2 so you can now get rid of the bloat!

      Whatever phone you get you want to be able to root it and take control so you don’t become a complaining consumer that is sitting around waiting for a phone company to send you little updates here and there. You can clearly see what I mean by reading the countless posts in this thread with people clamoring for an update that simply adds more bloatware… lol 

      Good luck in whatever you decide. 

    • Anonymous

      I have the T-Bolt and LOVE it and have never had a problem. It seems there are plenty that do, but I never base a decision on the incompetence of others.

      I just got my daughter an Incredible 2 yesterday and it is a nice phone also. It works just like a mini T-Bolt except it is 3g and much slower. Side by side mine blows it away by far when downloading anything such as apps or watching youtube. Other than slow download speeds the phone is great and I’m sure you would like it. She chose that one pretty much for the smaller size… They also just came out with the ability to root the Inc2 so you can now get rid of the bloat!

      Whatever phone you get you want to be able to root it and take control so you don’t become a complaining consumer that is sitting around waiting for a phone company to send you little updates here and there. You can clearly see what I mean by reading the countless posts in this thread with people clamoring for an update that simply adds more bloatware… lol 

      Good luck in whatever you decide. 

  • Anonymous

    Ummmmmmmmm, FAIL!!!! Where is GIIIIINNNGGGEEEEERRRBBREEAAADDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jake P

    Just unrooted and updated…looks solid so far

    • Mariobros27772

      Did you get a tabbed app menu or a desktop cradle app? I can’t seem to find either… Or the ny times hookmark but that’s not a big deal

      • Androidinformant

        Can’t see the cradle thing. Ur rite

        • Mariobros27772

          Okay, but what about this view app menu being tabbed? Because I don’t see it

  • Jades_Blood

    I was going to say that very same thing ( littlepecker ), isn’t this just away for them to
    kill off your hotstop and not live up to the promise of GB.I currently can still use the Hotspot just fine even though it was said
    to have ended 2 days ago. Unless I hear a valid reason to give this
    update a try i’m going to have to call this one a miss I think. ~ Stock T-bolt.

  • Jake P

    Just unrooted, here goes…

  • Mariobros27772

    Am I missing something? Ny times wasn’t added, and idk where this desktop app? Idk how to get the clock to rotate and the view apps isn’t tabbed, but I got everything else

  • Mnickel1988

    well i had a leaked version of video skype, and now i have no video which makes skype pretty pointless now

  • This update finally fixed the GPS lock issue for me.  I haven’t played with it too much but I get instant lock now, even inside my house.

  • Downloading the update in central IL now… I’ve had reboots aplenty.  I’ll look over at my phone and notice the white HTC “quietly brilliant” screen and then hear thunder a couple minutes later.  Hope this fixes it.  I still love HTC sense.  Wish the HTC Sensation were on Verizon.  At least when HTC Sense force closes on it the phone doesn’t reboot.

  • Blackhawk5177

    here we go again round two

  • i never had any reboots at all..

  • Anonymous

    Nice way to kill the free hotspot and make you think you’re getting something. Oh wait, we did get some more VZ bloatware.

  • Mawurks5

    No update here. In central Illinois. It’s 10pm. Just more free advertising for Verizon?

    • Mz.Thunderbolt[;

      It is released by MEID#s. It probably just hasn’t reached yours yet. You should get it soon

  • Ler56

    For those of you complaining about no GPS fix or Skype, you have to remember this update is based around the reboot issue. Getting Skype, gTalk, Sense 2.1, and major GPS fixes will come with Gingerbread 2.3.4 update. So stop acting as if this update should be the magical one that will fix everything. This update is 74MB. Verizon pushing more on this update could have really messed up your phone with the tremendous download size. So shut up and wait for Gingerbread

    • Mz.Thunderbolt[;

      Totally with you, dude. People need to shut the hell up and stop freakin complaining. As long as this update fixes reboot issues I am happy. Gingerbread should take care of the other issues.

    • Sborden70

      How about the assholes actually give us what the brochures says then huh? Another f u c k I n g lie from Verizon and we have the right to be pissed so stfu

  • Pcar1947

    I think this is Typical Big WIreless company ( Not Just Verizon) . Staged Rollout!
    1) 1.13.605.7 Build Early this week
    2) 1.70.605 74MB Build this evening
    3) Gingerbread?

  • Translation:

    This update does not fix anything, nor add any additional features, it just blocks Mobile Hotspot.

    We knew you wouldn’t download it if you knew that’s all it was so we lied to you as usual, thank you for being so gullible.

  • Jspumphrey

    Phone is now randomly viberating as is use it with new update. Yay verizons way of sayin go f yourself i guess.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, Verizon.  I’ll give up my hotspot when you give me Gingerbread

    • Rysdwn

      that’s right man, i’ve been thinking wether or not to install the update but im not cuz that’s exactly what that update is for to block hotspot.

    • Verizon Rep

      how about I give you a loaf of rye bread? because that’s all i have to offer.

      • Anonymous

        As soon as you have more than a loaf of rye bread, contact me.  Then we can talk.  Till then, I’m not giving up my hotspot.

  • oh nice and it blocks the use of the cracked Skype video

    • Thundercharge

      So pissed about this!!!

  • Anonymous

    New update adds those stupid balance and global support team type contacts to people and doesnt allow you to delete them. Im pissed i dont want that cluttering my contacts.

  • scannerman

    i’ve had the random reboots at least 2-3 times per day.  however my phone has been up over 55 hours now without a reboot and i have been doing nothing different.  it’s really strange.  

  • Anonymous

    Ok, so I just ran the update, and I know it took, because as soon as it rebooted it was telling me about My Verizon Mobile and I tried Mobile Hotspot and it no longer works for free. But, when I compare my Build Number and Baseband to what’s listed in the advertisement above, there is a discrepancy… Build Number is the same, but my Baseband is different. Any ideas on that?

    • Anonymous

      I also don’t have tabs in my app tray. What’s up with that?

  • Anonymous

    my build number is 1.70.605.0 baseband
    build number same as above baseband: mine is clearly different ??? what gives VZW 

  • Adam Taylor

    There’s still no update for me.  I tried switching to CDMA and rebooting and it still doesn’t have anything.

  • Well installed the update, hopefully it will address the problems at least, but…

    Am I the only one that has had severe battery problems since the update, my phone just went from 78% to 16% in a half hour, while it was just sitting on my desk doing nothing.  

  • Anonymous

    my build number changed but my base band is different then what it says on that pdf. Whats the deal? also no tabbed app drawer ? plus the update failed 3 times before it actually completed. I wonder if they made last minute changes???

  • Cory

    To anyone who had a screen lock password, you will probably think that it stopped working. To fix it you have to go into Settings, then Security, and click on “Lock phone after” then change it back to whatever your previous setting was to fix it 

  • Sborden70

    I tried getting the update and kept getting no updates found, I switched to cdma only, rebooted and clicked on the update and there it was. So far I haven’t noticed anything different, no sense update, only Verizon crapware

  • Blackthurt33n

    This thing is a f’ng THUNDERTURD!

  • Anonymous

    I downloaded and installed the update but now i can not get a 3g signal. It only works when i hit the sync all or check for updates.

  • Cory

    The new 3G thing looks so stupid

  • Russosaur

    HELP!!! My bolt goes to the check update screen and then the little screen goes away and it wont check for updates!!! PLEASE ANYONE HAVE THIS PROBLEM OR CAN FIX IT WITHOUT ROOTING?

    • Warlike1919

      I am having the same problem , i dont know what the heck going on there

  • Thundercharge

    I was wondering if anyone who updated and was experiencing problems with password lock? I had a pin before and now it doesn’t seem to work even when I created a new pin for the unlock screen…

    • Cory

      this is f**king ridiculous. Im getting the same problem. I just re-setup my screen lock password and its as if i never set one up. It won’t keep a password. im getting kinda pissed at htc right now 

    • Cory

      ok you just have to change the thing back to say “lock phone immediately” because when you click off it changes the setting to 15 min

      • Thundercharge

        Thanks, I’ll have to try that.

  • Ryanstraub84

    I click the check new and the screen says that it’s searching for new then goes away… what do i do to get it to download?

    • Anonymous

      Try rebooting your phone and then check for the update again afterward. If it still doesn’t do anything don’t worry too much… at some point soon Verizon will push the update to you if you haven’t already pulled it yourself.

  • Efballa32

    When I click check new statues and press download, the update goes to about 15 percent and says server not availabe???

  • Diddy11

    I called Verizon and they replaced my tb no questions asked. I have no problems yet. I noticed under the battery cover a green sticker that reads void. Under my old tb I’m sending back, it’s black. Anyone have the same thing going on theirs.

    • guest

      same thing with my replacement


  • Crh

    Off topic… Anyone that downloaded the most recent update to thunderbolt(mr2 I think) able to download update tonight? My phone keeps saying no update available

  • Chris

    Can anyone confirm whether or not the rebooting is fixed?



  • Vonsym

    not working for me….

  • Mine rebooted halfway through the download.  Now I gotta restart.  Sweet.

  • Tboltuser

    I did the full RUU a few weeks ago for the OTA that was never released.  So far I am not being offered the new OTA.  Wondering if I am going to have to load the full RUU again for this current release.  Anyone out there on BB, Build 1.66.605.2 able to get the OTA update?

    • Nycqueen73

      That is the build that I have and Im not able to get the update either

      • Tboltuser

        Mine doesn’t respond with no new update, pop up just disappears

        • Nycqueen73

          Im beginning to wonder if I will even be able to get any of the OTA updates since I downloaded the leaked MR2… If anyone knows of a site where I can get GB, please let me know… Im to a point that Im about to run this phone over with my car…

          • Tboltuser

            I’ll give it a few days, not really worried about it.  Did your experience improve with the leak?  I am stock, unrooted, and honestly I don’t need this update.  Never get reboots and lock GPS in 1-2 seconds.

          • Nycqueen73

            The phone does work much better with the leak but I did notice a few things. For some reason, my HBOGO wasnt working nor would it even download to the phone. Also, Facebook for HTC Sense doesnt work. But other than that, the phone works great. Haven’t seen a single reboot..


      try turning on 1x it worked for me

      • Nycqueen73

        Tried it… Didnt work either.. Still saying no new software update

    • Anonymous

      I don’t understand why anyone that rooted and got rid of all this nonsense would want to take and update to take themselves backwards.

  • michael

    doesnt even work

  • Nycqueen73

    No New Software Update Available.. Figures!!!!!

  • Jester4281

    AAnyone else have the checking update screen flash, then nothing after that, can’t seem to pull the update.

    • Same thing here.  Update screen flashes…then goes away. I received a ‘service unavailable’ message after my 15th try.

    • Worm4603

      yes, same happening to me

    • Ryanstraub84

      i do…. i have no idea what to do!

  • Has anyone actually been able to download an install this?  It is now 8:30 ET and I received a ‘service unavailable’ message.

    • Ron

      Worked for me in CA.

      • Thanks!!! I will keep keep checking. I am glad its out there.

    • Giantsfan

      Restart your phone – I did a battery pull and it worked.

      • I tried that, I will do it again. Are you in San Francisco or NY/NJ area? The reason I ask is because your name is Giantsfan, and maybe the west coast people can access the HTC servers easier than the East coast.

  • then they wouldn’t be lying 

  • ok not to be a smart ass but what if the phone does it reboot deal while dling this stupid reduced reboot update?

  • derek porter

    “REDUCED number of power cycles”  I have had 13 power cycles today.  Hopefully tomorrow no more than 12.

  • Now My Brothers Phone Just Shuts Off When Booted.

  • Giantsfan

    Just an FYI – once you update – mobile hotspot is no longer free!  Just did the update.

  • Worm4603

    no go for me

  • Adam Taylor

    There’s still nothing showing for me.

  • I flashed the update droid life put on here about 3 weeks ago, will that stop the update from my phone? still not available…

  • Ace87

    It’s Live!

  • Ace87

    It’s Live!

  • Tommy_boy83

    Not seeing tabs in app tray. Anyone?

    • Msokad

      I dont see a change.

  • Peter Selca

    Got it at 8:03pm ET. Downloading firmware now.

    Edit: Is it downloading via 3G for anyone else? I have my wifi turned on.

  • how do i keep all of my apps instead of losing them doing this update?

  • Know this….
    The update will take about 30 min.  I just completed mine and only time will tell about the “reboot” issue.  YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE OR RECEIVE CALLS DURING THE INSTALLATION PART OF THE INSTALL.  Good Luck Everyone

  • Know this….
    The update will take about 30 min.  I just completed mine and only time will tell about the “reboot” issue.  YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE OR RECEIVE CALLS DURING THE INSTALLATION PART OF THE INSTALL.  Good Luck Everyone

  • Jspumphrey

    Hey a new boot screen 

  • Jspumphrey

    Wtf comments have been erased? what kind of site is this?

  • Trapperjohn61

    Getting update now !!! did manual request 🙂

    • Trapperjohn61

      74 megs

      • Trapperjohn61

        Goodbye free tethering gives phone number to call when starting hotspot.

  • Giantsfan

    I keep getting, “Error…Server Unavailable”

    • Jspumphrey


      • Giantsfan

        Thanks – that worked!  I appreciate the help.

  • Guttatae22

    Downloading it now

  • im alread able to download the update even though its about an hour before the stated time…

  • Sad Owner of the TB

    Just tried to update mine and guess what?  It randomly reset! 

    • Jspumphrey

      I have yet to experience this problem like everyone else it seems

      • Sad TB owner

        When I first purchased the phone it would reset a few times each day – figured it was a bad device and returned it and got a brand new one… Of course, the new one does it less often…. Just hope this update fixes the issue. 

  • Jspumphrey

    Downloading mine now, so disappointed its not gingerbread.

  • Marty

    its on line now

  • unhappyTBUser

    Totally Effed up. I don’t think these guys know what they’re doing. Honestly, this has been such a frustrating experience.  My blood pressure has gone up since getting this phone.

  • Cwpit81

    downloading now but it will probably take away my free hotspots

  • Sachmo

    Update is downloading to my phone as I type this. 

  • Sdb4115

    6:23 central time….pulling update now

  • Hsormq

    Updating now

  • Max

    bring sense 3.0 please

  • Jay

    This is just all an excuse to block the free mobile hotspot feature. It has stoped on my Droid Charge w/o a update but I did notice the Mobile Hotspot Promo feature was removed from my account.

  • ABielert

    From what someone at VZW told me is that HTC pulled the original June 30th GB update for the TB because they are going to do Sense 3.0 into that update and VZW also wanted to fix some bloatware issues…

    • Anonymous

      Here is to hoping this info from a VZZ rep is correct, however, they have pretty much been wrong on everything up to this point.

  • Anonymous

    Ahhh.. Just in time. My 2-week trial will be ending today so that means I’m making a trip to Verizon to return this POS Thunderbolt. Great phone but the battery should last all day without charging or buying some ugly extended battery. Rockin a flip phone till the Bionics out.

    • then you willl not have the unlimited data 🙂 my battery lasts me all day

  • Anonymous

    This just shows the need to unlock the bootloader.  My OG Droid runs Pete’s Gingerbread pretty much perfect…if this phone was opened up to devs it would be a good phone.  

    • Anonymous

      It is opened and already has gb roms and has for awhile. Smh

    • they already unlocked it

  • Anonymous

    wrong place

  • Anonymous

    OH you tease!!

  • Anonymous


  • Awesome, an update that isn’t Gingerbread.  We can’t get Gingerbread before older phones (HTC Evo), we can’t get it before newer phones (Incredible 2).  I got the Thunderbolt because I love HTC and I wanted 4G, but hopefully when I can upgrade again I can get an HTC phone with the Droid branding and 4G, because Verizon only seems to care about Android if it’s under the Droid label.

    • it’s easier to update an older phone that has all the bugs worked out, than to update a newer phone that they’re still making right.

  • awkward

    About damn time, my phone is been restarting like crazy. If it doesn’t fix it I’m going to a non stock rom.

  • Anonymous

    “reduced… power cycles and resets” LOL too funny so not actually fixed, just Duct Taped?
    I am fine with my rooted TBolt and already having GB 2.3.4 so to bad vzw… I’m ahead of the game!

  • Mudhawg327

    Nice. Verizon just sent me a replacement t-bolt today because I couldn’t stand the constant rebooting any longer.

    • Mox

      me too

  • Anonymous

    this picture says they are “reducing” the power cycles/resets, not completely fixing them

  • Mudhawg327

    Nice. Verizon just sent me a replacement t-bolt today because I couldn’t stand the constant rebooting any longer.

  • Professor X

    I bet people have been waiting a long time for the NY Times browser bookmark.  Phew, finally!

  • Ish

    I already got this update last night, my phone has been re-setting it self like crazy since it updated. ***Fail*** Verizon and HTC SUCK!!!

    • Anonymous

      That’s the old update clearly read this document it says today after 8pm.

    • no you didn’t….

  • Anonymous

    Kellex – If you read the information you posted, you’d see that it doesn’t necessarily fix the reboots, just reduces the number of them.

    • Anonymous

      An update lowered cpu voltage in an attempt to increase battery life. Not all cpu’s could function at a lower voltage so they are raising it back up. If you didn’t have problems with reboots before the update, you won’t after this one.

      • Anonymous


  • Jblack2307

    Im sure this will also change the wireless hotspot app.

  • Anonymous

    “Get The Most Out of Your Thunderbolt by HTC” ?!?!?! Oh really Verizon???? If you had a face I’d punch it.

    • The only way that would be a legitimate statement is if they pushed CM7 over-the-air.

      • I’ve seen a lot about CM7… but I went to the site to try to install it and I quit at Step 3. It is so complicated!! And I’m not a computer novice… its just way too much work and the instructions were incomplete, confusing, and frustrating. Anyone have any easy way to install this CM7 for people who don’t have 12 hours of spare time?

        • Assuming you’re already rooted with ROM Manager and ClockworkMod Recovery:

          NOTE: I advise you to make a nandroid backup before attempting this.1. Download MR2.5 radio.2. Rename PG05IMG.zip and place on root of SD card.3. Download CM7 for MR2.5 and latest gapps and place both on root of SD card.4. Boot into bootloader (VolDwn + Power) and flash new radio (hit power on Bootloader, the pre-selected option and use volume keys to accept update.)5. Once update is finished, boot into CWMR.6. Wipe everything (Data, cache, and dalvik under advanced.)7. Flash CM7 and gapps.Links:CM7 thread & download: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049542MR2.5 radio: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127436GApps: http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gapps-gb-20110613-signed.zip 

          That should be it.

  • mike jones

    looks more like a bloatware update. not to delete the bloatware which 99.9% of verizon customers want. but instead to add more bloatware.

    • Anonymous

      Bloatware is the least of my worries with TBolt – quite frankly I don’t even know it is on the phone.  You have to look for it in order to see it for Christ sake.

  • Anonymous

    hahah still sucks

  • Sam Fusco

    Great. Looking forward to the update. Thanks kellex!

  • Anonymous

    I seem to be one of the few Tbolt owners who are running unrooted, totally stock, and having very little trouble in the almost three weeks I’ve had it. I have had a grand total of 3 random reboots… all within two days and when I was in a rural 3G only area of Washington state (I don’t know if that has anything to do with it or not… just thought it was coincidental).

    My GPS locks on very quickly every time and was a huge help on my trip! I don’t have problem switching between 3G and 4G. It makes the switch on it’s own and doesn’t appear to have any delay or issue there.

    Yes, the battery life’s not amazing, but it’s a very powerful smartphone with a huge screen!! That’s to be expected in my opinion! Maybe should be better, but a little bit of resourcefulness will fix that. I just leave my mobile network turned off when I’m not using it (plus any extra features not in use, like GPS, bluetooth, wifi, etc.) and I can easily last well over 24 hours even with a few hours of web surfing (Droid Life!!) texting, phone calls, etc. One could make the argument that I shouldn’t have to do that, (which would be nice!), but I did all of that with my DInc too (except the mobile network part).

    Anyway, I’m always up for an update! Very much looking forward to the Gingerbread update!! Hope that one lands soon!!!!

    Happy weekend ya’ll!!

    • I am right there with you pal! No major problems whatsoever

    • Anonymous

      Both of you should consider yourselves very lucky and the minority.  I have been a TBOLT owner from the release date and have had nothing but problems so after the update and random reboots it was very upsetting. Icing on the cake so to say.  I hope GB and this update tonight can fix some issues.  I went with the one year contract so I have an upgrade on January 11th – Trust me I will be taking advantage of that.  I’m hoping for the SGSII. 

      • Anonymous

        2nd. i get about 1 random reboot (and  occasional power-off with juice in the battery) per day. isn’t god-awful, but still annoying.

      • Anonymous

        Sorry to hear you’ve had so many problems! Makes it hard to enjoy an otherwise great phone I’m sure. I hope the update helps!! (In my case I hope it doesn’t make my phone start doing dumb things that it hasn’t been doing all along!)

        I didn’t get to take advantage of 1 year contracts since they were no longer offering them when I got mine. However, my wife’s line and mine are offset by pretty much exactly half of a contract. So, I tend to upgrade my phone every 10-12 months using the upgrade for both lines. Before you think I’m selfish, she prefers a basic phone for talk and text only… I can buy her one of those off contract for the same or less than something I’m interested in on contract… so it’s definitely more financially feasible to use the upgrade on my line. Plus, it allows me to get something new every year! Love that!!

        I got the Tbolt knowing it would likely have problems (though I’ve been pleasantly surprised at how few for me!) but also knowing that I can deal with anything for a year or less!! At the time there was no guarantee on whether 3G unlimited contracts would be able to keep 4G unlimited after tiers started, so I wanted to make sure I got the 4G unlimited locked in!

        Happy weekend! Enjoy the update!!

      • Anonymous

        That’s not true… most don’t have issues. Mine is flawless and so are the ones my friends have. Usually those that post are the ones who have problems. Go to any phone forum and read all the problems and complaints. It’s just how it is.  

        I’ve not known anyone that has had any random reboots… only those I read about on the internet.

        P.S. what have you done to try to resolve your issues? Have you done a factory data reset?

        But I gotta say… an update to give us more bloatware and a N.Y.Times bookmark? you gotta be kidding me…..

        • I am on my 7th tbolt because of this update…and the last one that had to be sent back rebooted as soon as I’d gotten it.  As in, I was in the middle of linking my google account to the phone on #6.  I forced VZW to replace it finally in-store instead of shipping a replacement to me. Thankfully, the in-store replacement had not been updated yet. And I’ve not had an issue since.

          When I got to the 3rd and 4th tbolts, I started going in-store after experiencing 3-4 reboots within a 24 hr period. Both times, the only thing I did was ask for tech support…as soon as tech support saw I had a tbolt, they would immediately ask if it was rebooting. I didn’t have to say a word. So, I really don’t think this is an issue that only a few people are experiencing. 

          Factory data resets did not work on the reboot issue at all for me.

          • Anonymous

            Sorry you have had so many issues with so many phones. I ran the updated radio they sent out for a long time and never had a reboot. Those that I know with the T-Bolt also have never had an issue. I don’t doubt that you and many are having problems but it’s strange since so many of us don’t. I don’t think it’s the updated radio since so many don’t have problems with it, but am very curious to know what they determine is the issue… if they ever do.

            I would be curious to know if there are more problems in certain areas compared to others. I’ve read some people that have no problems in their home area but when they travel to another area they start having all kinds of problems, then when they go home again they are fine….

          • Anonymous

            I am on my 5th tb. Luckily I installed the leaked MR2 and havent got any reboots so it finally seems like atleast I can use the phone and not have it randomly reboot on me every 2 sec.

      • Jboogie1289

        I have had the phone since the debut and have been overall happy with it. Although I’ve been all over HTC’s rear in email wars I still don’t think I’d change out for anything else. I initially wanted the Bionic but thought otherwise when I saw the TBolt. I’ve had reboots from hell since the MR1 update (or so they called it) and true enough they drive me bats I still am willing to hang in there with HTC. Would never trade out for an iPhail but that’s just my opinion. Nothing against CrApple (oops, horns are coming out) but like they said earlier, to each his own.

  • fasdf


    no ginny for you

  • Demoman4u2nv

    Reduced = Cover our asses

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for an update full of sh!t that should have been there since launch. First and last HTC phone for me.

  • Will I need to downgrade from the leaked MR2 for this to show up?

  • Hopefully I’ll be able to catch a data connection long enough to get this downloaded!

  • jimbob

    For f**k’s sake.

  • dknyc

    Looks like the Desire will get gingerbread before the TB. HTC is saying that update will be out by the end of July.

  • Jerrod Schultz

    Maybe with this update, I can access ALL apps on the market! I want my MLB at Bat!!

    • I want Gingerbread to let us use Hulu Plus and Netflix when it arrives, it won’t on Tbolt correctly without Gingerbread, so hopefully the new codecs in there will allow the playback to work … and they can support the device then.

  • This is also that update that turns off the free hotspot too i bet. 


    They updated the PDF for tonights update

    also, this update could be changing the radio that way when the gingerbread update comes it won’t be quite as large. the radio itself is about 24mb, and the Gingerbread RUU is a total of around 600mb, so its hard to say how much the OTA will be worth. but i can almost guarantee that this update is doing the preparations for the Gingerbread one.  Notice the tabbed app drawer, thats Sense 2.1 same version of Sense found on Incredible 2

  • This is also that update that turns off the free hotspot too i bet. 


    They updated the PDF for tonights update

    also, this update could be changing the radio that way when the gingerbread update comes it won’t be quite as large. the radio itself is about 24mb, and the Gingerbread RUU is a total of around 600mb, so its hard to say how much the OTA will be worth. but i can almost guarantee that this update is doing the preparations for the Gingerbread one.  Notice the tabbed app drawer, thats Sense 2.1 same version of Sense found on Incredible 2

    • Anonymous

      I’m a bit confused here… are you saying that they’re upgrading our version of Sense with this update too?

      • that what i first thought… i think this is sense 2.1

      • Exactly, it will be the same version of Sense as on Incredible 2.  but its odd, the MR2 update did not add this, the gingerbread leak did

  • Anonymous

    I hate Verizon – honestly! 

  • rocker


    • Stephen Brooks77

      stephen.brooks77 at gmail dot com

  • I’m not too disappointed that it’s not Gingerbread..  I’m just happy this should finally fix the reboot issues.   They are so annoying.

  • I have google+ invites! leave your gmail

  • Interstellarmind

    i like how this is timed just perfectly for the mobile hotspot cutoff

    • Anonymous

      Yup, right about that…I was wondering how they were gonna lure us in lol. I fixed my gps with the great help here with GPS Status app., its spot on and quick again. Skype works great…and I don’t have these issues this update is supposed to fix so I’ll pass…

  • I love how devs can fix reboot issues and even get GB to run on Tbolts in a matter of weeks and its taking verizon and HTC this long to just fix reboots.

  • Ashley Stevens

    I’ve been considering rooting my TB. But, being my baby I’m afraid to hurt her. I rooted my OG Droid without a problem bc honestly, that thing wasn’t too awesome. 

    I guess it’s time to root her.

    • I was in the same position as you. Back in the olden times, I used to “Say screw the carrier! Screw the manufacture. I’m doing what I want with my phone!” This time around I decided to see what it was like on the other side. Only going with official updates, not rooting my phone, etc. What did I get in return? Bloatware, reboots, and disappointment. Never again. I’ll look to the Android community for any further support I need with my phone.

      • Ashley Stevens

        Yep. I always rooted my smarties. Then when I got my Thunder I decided to be “safe” with her. But what these official updates do to her, not gonna let it happen anymore. These phones can be awesome, but they seriously lag them. 

  • I’m not getting this update…. it’s only to really lock down my tethering which as of now is still working just fine… It’s painful enough to deal with 5reboots in 4hours but to not fix the GPS, not update to 2.3 when everything else is… and to have the “fix” fix my tethering too… Note where I already pay to use the internet now you want me to pay more depending on how I use the internet? I’m ok.. I’ll wait for an all around better update.. heck only reason I haven’t rooted my Thunderbolt is because it’s going to my GF later.. but I would hate to give here the phone at what it currently is now.. 

    • stuntin

      Ditto that. It’s not worth losing tether if its not GB.

  • Anonymous

    This won’t have any troubles with that MR2 update I flashed will it?

  • the dude


  • Chefmg

    Enhancements…….Pre loaded with My verizon, vcast music and vcast video, ny times site added to bookmarks so its a fix with bloatware added to the mix

     verizon is getting to be like congress

    • Anonymous

      Lol!! Love your parallell!! Too funny!

      I don’t mind having the My Verizon app added as I’ve missed having it since switching from my DInc (that’s how I normally pay my bill). They can keep the rest though!!

    • Anonymous

      I just got my daughter the Inc 2 and it has that additional bloatware…. and I can’t believe they are giving us that crap. They must not think we have enough.

      Of course I am on Cyanogenmod so I don’t really care…. but It sucks nonetheless. 

    • Cory

      Seriously, no one wants verizon’s crappy v-cast stuff. Thats why we have the android market because it’s actually good

      • Anonymous

        Agree they should just put it in the market and let people install it if they want. Then again they should do the same thing with skins and we all know that wont happen.

  • the dude

    I told you about it this morning. Thanks for the credit.

  • Brdrhoppinpro

    So I’m really starting to believe I bought the red headed step child of the HTC lineup…

  • so they can fix reboot issues on the thunderbolt but not the DX.. lame

  • Ashley Stevens

    Seriously. I want GB. This was supposed to be a great phone and HTC is sucking hard. I’m seriously considering biting the bullet and crawling over to crApple.

    • Stephanie Holloway

      Don’t do that, resist the dark side!  Ha, if anything, wait for the Bionic, or just root it. I rooted my nook a few weeks ago, I’m thinking I might just give in and do it with the TB.

      • Fd2blk78

        Just got a nook yesterday. Was the rooting process too hard? What rom are ya using? I want to root mine asap! 🙂

      • Anonymous

        Root your T-Bolt Stephanie… you will love it and never look back!  It will give you endless options.

    • Understand your frustration (I have TB too), but you are basically saying,
      “I hate that my Porsche doesn’t have HID headlights so I’m considering getting a Kia Rio!”

  • Stephanie Holloway

    Has anyone else been having issues in the last week after the random reboots (some, not all) with the TB not recognizing apps on the SD card?  It can read the card fine and see my stored items, but not apps.  Tonight’s update had better fix that crap.

    • Bakriech

      Yes I have, finally moved most of my apps to the phone and been fine since

  • Anonymous

    No GPS fix? It still sucks!

    • download gps status from the market…

      clear out the memory using that…

      BAM…blazing fast GPS…locks in under fix seconds…seriously.  (if it starts to slow down…wash, rinse, repeat)

      • Anonymous

        I actually downloaded that on my wife’s TB. I keep comparing how much faster the GPS lock on my droid vs her phone. 

        • Cory

          original droid gps was AMAZING! i miss it now that i have the t-bolt

      • That, sadly, doesn’t work for everyone.   I’ve looked up/down/left/right on this issue and no joy.  Some folks here may remember my tale of woe.  Two handsets, unrooted and rooted, stock and various ROMs – NOTHING worked.   Holding out lots of hope for CM7.  What surprises me so much is that GPS Status works brilliant for some and for some like me – does nothing.  If I ever find out who handled HTC’s GPS software interface, I would pee in his cereal.  Or at least wag my finger at him like a 90 year old disappointed grandfather.

      • GPS Status + Toolbox by EclipSim? I want to try this so I want to make sure thats the one.

      • Q

        Tried that.. didnt help.  What did help was a factory reset.  Sadly, after a few days of normal GPS operation, it’s now back to taking 3 minutes to get a lock.

        • Humbajoe

          wow you get to lock in in 3 minutes?  LUCKY!  takes 20+ minutes for me.  Never doing business with HTC again.

    • James_Ever

      That’s something that’s really odd about the Droid3 in order to use gps you have to agree your location can be seen by everyone giving that information to third parties and may not be safe. I thought it was a Moto thinkg but if your devices haven’t had improvements yet on gps this is what Verizon may be up to tracking if your rooted and possibly tethering. They are getting extreme and I think its more the carriers than the manufacturers now.

      • Anonymous

        🙂 I think your tinfoil hat is on too tight.

        GPS has nothing to do with them knowing if you are rooted or tethering.

        Why would you even dream this up or even worry about it? There is no need to worry about little things like this… Just enjoy your phone!

        • Plus with the billed passed, last year I think, rooting, jailbreaking, ect. is perfectly fine.

      • Anonymous

        🙂 I think your tinfoil hat is on too tight.

        GPS has nothing to do with them knowing if you are rooted or tethering.

        Why would you even dream this up or even worry about it? There is no need to worry about little things like this… Just enjoy your phone!

      • Anonymous

        uum that is the same with all gps that is nothing new it obviously needs your location for the satellites. smh

  • No GB, but they are adding more bloatware (VZW crap &, NYT bookmarks)?    I HAZ A SAD!  🙁

    Also, I’ve been rocking the TB since March and have never experienced the rebooting nonsense.

    • Anonymous

      a bookmark you can delete right? besides, i dont use stock browser anymore

    • Anonymous

      same bloatware as before except the NYT. the VZW apps they mention are not new.

  • will

    To late I already traded my tbolt in for an Iphone 4.  I have not looked back one time

    • You’re headed in the direction of “late?”

      • Hey, different strokes for different folks

    • So you don’t regret downgrading from 4G to 3G or mind letting Steve (blow) Jobs control what can be done with “your” phone?    To each his own…

      • Last i check Android phones don’t come factory unlocked or factory rooted. Jailbreaking an iPhone is just as simple as using Unrevoked for Android phones. You guys really need some new lines about mean Steve and his “control” on iOS users. 

        • Tom-Ass

          Sure thing. As soon as you get Flash on an iPhoney or can hot-swap your batteries, then I work harder for my material. There is no app for that.

          • i don’t run flash on my laptop and i sure as hell don’t want to run flash on my iPhone and why would i want to take my battery out, i don’t get boot loops.

          • Tesseract 3

            LOL. You don’t want flash? Do you USE the internet? Or just look at it? 

          • i don’t run flash on my laptop either. 

          • Lovemytbolt

            Let’s see I had 5 iPhone, wait I mean, crapphone4 in less than 2 months, because they just broke on their own. Switch to a tbolt and the only thing I had to deal with is a few reboots. How does a phone break just sitting there, so give me the reboots any day. But to each his own. And yes you do need to pull Steve’s crotch out of your mouth, and get one of your own.

    • Then y are young here

    • you will never look back. you will miss voice recognition and google navigation but other than that iOS is a much better user experience. 

      • Mr. Joe

        GTFO of here  you tool.

        • no

          • Tesseract 3

            You are sooooo scary. 

        • Anonymous

          Joe it’s better to not give Fan Boy Bernard any attention. He shows up every now and then like a pestering flea on a dogs ass.  he won’t respond to you and he’ll quote Apple Fan boyisms at you all day. LOL 

          His Genius buddies don’t want anything to do with him either

      • Roan Atkinson

        After 4 bad thunderbolts that’s exactly what I did. Bought a iPhone 4 and jail broke it couldn’t be happier. Does every thing my android phone did except google beta nav but navigon works well enough. I’m done with using androids beta unpolished fragmented software for now.. Nice to have a stable solid device . Grow up 20 something’s unless you have stock in google save your childish comments and insults.

    • Shaydave10

      I wish I could trade my tbolt for a iPhone

      • Anonymous

        You can… just sell your T-Bolt and pay the difference for an Iphone… simple as that.

    • Anonymous

      If the Iphone works really well for you and makes you happy that’s awesome.  Some people have had a tough time with their T-Bolts it seems and I’m lucky to be one that works flawlessly. 

      A friend of mine got the Iphone 4 on Verizon and had an issue with the signal completely dropping randomly while the phone was just sitting there. When this happened she could not even make a phone call…. I figured it was just a glitch that could be resolved and looked it up and found that there were thousands of people with the same issue even if they swapped the phone. Even if I lost an internet connection with an Android phone I have always been able to make a call. For this reason she switched over to the Thunderbolt and is very happy now. (of course there were a few features she liked better on the iphone)

      No matter what the phone there will be those that don’t have luck with it.

      Enjoy whatever you like! 

  • Great any idea when the Droid X is going to get fixed 4 reboots a day minimum is a damn joke I keep sending them back in hopes to run the stock out and get a free upgrade.

    • Anonymous

      maybe dont use the same apps everytime…i have never had a reboot problem on my dx, 2.1 all the way to 2.3

  • Cue the angry Thunderbolt users because it’s not Gingerbread! I ain’t mad though. CM7 is running great for me.

    • Anonymous

      Do you have one? If not then you probably don’t understand. I AM a tbolt owner and I AM angry, but this will be the extent of my angry rant…

      • I have one…may I suggest rooting and installing Das BAMF or CM7.

        • I agree with Michael, I ran DasBAMF GingerRemix 2.1, and now I’m running CM7. love them both.

      • Anonymous

        I think you misunderstood him.

    • Anonymous

      I did… somehow I missed everything after Gingerbread weird. Apologies, this is the first (out of 3 andy phones I’ve had) that I haven’t rooted… maybe its time.

      • Yeah I edited my comment…probably after you first replied to it.

      • Anonymous

        This is my second Android… rocked the OG DInc for a while. I rooted my DInc, but I wasn’t brave enough to do anything more than delete some bloatware and install wireless tether. I was always afraid I’d screw something up. Wasn’t til I got my Tbolt that I went ahead and tried a few ROM’s on my DInc. Makes me wish I’d done it way sooner!! It was so easy!!

        On the flip side, I’m waiting to root my Tbolt for the time being. I really want to see what the upcoming (supposedly) Gingerbread update will do for it.

        If I do root and ROM it, I’m looking toward probably using Das BAMF.

  • So glad i rooted 3 weeks ago! Been rocking a super stable gingerbread already with sense 3.0 for a while now. With video chat over gtalk and skype. 

    • )v(urphy

      What ROM are you using?

    • Fd2blk78

      I would like to know as well.

  • Dr. E


  • )v(urphy

    And what the hell do they mean by ‘reduced’…my phone should not be resetting by itself AT ALL…smh

    • for me if they reduce it, it should be nothing. mine shuts off once in a blue moon

      • I’ve had maybe 4 reboots total, and I’ve used all of the leaked radios.

    • Anonymous

      It means they cant get rid of the reboots just like they cant get gb on the thunderbolt lmao.

  • stuntin

    A smack in the face.

  • Wtf, really?! I got this hoping that they would stay true to releasing Gingerbread in a timely fashion. Now the Incredible 2 will get the update before this? So many false hopes with this phone…I think I may just stop waiting for custom roms to use an official Gingerbread build and just go to CM7.

  • the dude

    I told you about it this morning. Thanks for the credit.

  • Guest

    And they forgot to mention it takes away the FREE hotspot!

    • Anonymous

      root & get the wireless tether app 😉

  • Cjl1092


  • So if I flashed the leaked MR2 update will I be able to receive and install this update OTA?  If not, what do I need to do to get it?

  • Victor

    Good News  for Thunderbolt users

  • )v(urphy

    I already fixed my reboot issues…with Gingerbread :0)

  • Rob Meyer

    Ohhh I hope the Bionic drops with GB before the bolt gets it… Oooohhhhh how awesome that would be = )

  • Jordan Friedman

    Well… it’s something I guess.

  • Anonymous

    Offfff course its not Gingerbread

  • DroidzFX

    Right When HTC was starting to look good they let us down