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Moto 360 (2015) Spotted in the Wild Multiple Times

Moto 360 2015

According to one user on reddit and one on Google+, the Moto 360 (2015) is out in the wild in the city of Chicago, the hometown of Motorola’s US headquarters. It appears two versions of the watch have been spotted, one an all-black model with Black leather straps, and another with a Cognac band and Rose Gold casing.Β 

Neither person who spotted these devices decided it would be a good idea to talk to the wearers, but given the lugs seen on the device, and the power button placed in the 2 o’clock position, they knew they should start snapping PI-like photos to share on the web. As we can see in the photos, the black bar (aka flat tire) is still present, likely storing the sameΒ ambient light sensor as last year.

Other than that, these photos match up nicely against all of the previous leaks we have seen for the device.

We still don’t exactly know when Motorola plans to announce new Moto 360, but with employees walking around Chicago with it, we must be close.

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Via: reddit | +Gerrit GΓΆdecke
  • SiliconAddic

    Unless it has better battery life my first gen 360 will be my first and last 360. Once I started getting more and more notifications I notice the battery life drop like a rock. To the point that ambient and tilt to wake are turned off to let me go from 7:30AM to 8PM without the battery dying. I’ve reset this thing at least 3 times. No joy. The latest upgrade really was what hit the battery life hard. Prior I could go from 7:30AM to 11:59PM and still have 10% left. Now? No way.

  • KH

    I love the idea of a smart watch, but just haven’t seen the proper concept yet. The main thing that bothers me is the strap & pin style watch bands that all these companies keep using. If they would just make the body/housing for the watch in the chronograph style with the strap through form factor, I’d be pre-ordering the latest and greatest. I tend to continually snap my watch straps and if that were to happen to my smart watch, I’d be pretty pissed.

  • Meh

    Double fail for me.

    Flat tire and lugs. The clean lines without the lugs is what separated this watch apart from not just smartwatches, but other mechanical watches. Stylistically I see no reason to upgrade and see this as a downgrade, actually. I’m fine with current battery life and performance of M360 2014 since I use it as a watch. The only feature I care about is trusted BT device.

    Will not be getting M360 2015.

  • Dave12308

    Unfortunately, I simply don’t feel that Motorola’s watch looks good, at all. It looks huge and cheap. I personally believe that Huawei has one of the best looking smart watch designs.

  • Ajmcnicol

    Hate it. Not for the flat tire..i prefer black backgrounds anyway which hide it ..and looks like they made the tire smaller. I hate the metal raised bezel. Makes swiping more a pain. I like the raised base glass of the original 360. More elegant and functional..

  • master94

    Its not just Chicago. I saw people wearing the watch in NYC. When I asked the guy if that’s the new moto 360 he got off the train and denied it despite it having a not for sale sticker on it. Hopefully the release is soon

  • John Kitchen

    Looks amazing.

  • fernando zavala

    why does this look like the fossil watch that is coming out? they both look the same.

  • tardis 13

    Better have amazing best-in-class specs if I am going to have to put up with that stupid flat tire.

  • Eric Sorensen

    You should be able to put 20 ambient light sensors in the space of that flat tire. Maybe they added an HD camera? There is plenty of real estate for that – look at the front camera on our cell phones.

  • shelooga

    again, you had one job.
    listen to people! i dont care if it goes away visibly after using it awhile, im obsessive and need symmetry!

  • Blue Sun

    I hope that TI OMAP was upgraded. If not I’m passing.

  • darkprime

    I do prefer the look of the 1st gen 360 without the lugs. The lugs make it look bulkier and less elegant.

    I think one of the reasons we are seeing lugs on this generation is to make the watch thinner. In those pictures, it looks a lot thinner than the 1st gen. By moving the band attach points from under the watch to the sides, they can make it thinner.

  • Paul Craven

    Why would they not fix the “flat tire”?! Regardless of anything else, I simply can’t take this line of devices seriously until that gets fixed.

  • wrkerr

    If you look closely, we’re seeing both models here. The gold one is the small, and the black one is the large. The lugs on the small are thinner and closer together, accommodating a narrower band. The large has thicker lugs that are further apart.

  • jhjr24

    I have no issue with the so called “flat tire.” Use the watch and it goes away after a while.

  • Steve

    still has that dead space on the screen? no thanks. iWatch here i come.

    • iWatch? that’s embarrassing

      • NeilGeorge

        yeah just because of a flat tire wants to buy an iexp watch lol..

        Huswaei’s phone looks tempting though

    • vzwuser76

      So instead of a bit of dead space at the bottom of the screen, you’d rather have a lot of dead space all around the screen? Have you seen the bezels on the Apple watch?

      • Droid Ronin

        I agree. Bezels galore on the Apple Watch and the design of it in general is hideous.

    • Nick V

      I hear that’s what all the girls are wearing these days. πŸ™‚

  • Pdewet

    I don’t mind the lugs actually, but the lugs on that gold one looks way to narrow. That being said the flat tire is a deal breaker so i guess it doesn’t matter.

  • BuckNut614

    What is the reason behind the flat tire? Is there even one?

    • Jaymus Lonestar

      Seriously…?

    • NeilGeorge

      ambient light sensor i believe

  • Flat tire…. sigh… the ONE thing you should change Moto…

  • Jason

    flat tire. wah wah wahhhhhhh. huawei it is.

  • SilentPatriot

    Dear Motorola,
    Until that flat-tire thingy is gone, I won’t even consider this product.
    Thanks,
    A potential customer who thinks a circle should = 360 degrees.

  • Kai

    I can deal with the “flat tire” and the oddly positioned button, but why the lugs..

  • Godzilla

    Everyone needs to stop with the flat tire. Do you realize that the flat tire makes the thin bezel possible? Do you realize the 360 has the best light sensor of any smart watch out because of it? Go buy an ugly ass rectangle made by samsung if you dont like it.

    • SilentPatriot

      Don’t care. Looks tacky as hell. Find another way.

      • Godzilla

        Ok Mister engineer, find another way. Show me you can do it.

        • Pdewet

          Huawei figured it out…I know the bezel isn’t as thin, but it is close. Not nearly as thick as the G watch R

          • vzwuser76

            The difference is the ambient light sensor. There is no info I can find that shows the Huawei watch has one. If Motorola dropped that feature from the 360, they could also have a fully round edge to edge display.

          • Pdewet

            Oh I see. I guess ill take full circle display over having a ambient light sensor then. I have a G watch R too which I now assume does not have that sensor and its never bothered me.

          • vzwuser76

            No, none of the LG round watches, nor the Huawei have ambient light sensors. And in LG’s case that ridiculous considering they have that rign about the display. They could one in there.

          • cns2007

            “… know the bezel isn’t as thin”

            So they didn’t figure it out.

        • T4rd

          I’ve wondered why they can’t put the light sensor on one of the sides of the watch. Top side would be best if you can keep the band/link from obstructing it.

          • vzwuser76

            Because the sensor needs to see face the same way as the display does. If light is shining on the display, the sensor on the side won’t pick it up.

          • T4rd

            Normally you hold the watch at a about a 45 degree angle to the ground/ceiling. The same amount of light (since normally your light source is directly above you) should be hitting the top of the watch as the display, hence why I said top side would be best.

          • vzwuser76

            But its still not seeing the same amount of light on that surface as the display is, because they’re facing different directions. It may work in some instances, but if your light source isn’t from above, then it’s useless. Having it on the face ensures that the light shining on the display will be read by the sensor and then activated to adjust the displays brightness accordingly.

          • T4rd

            Yeah, edited my previous comment anticipating this one, hah.

          • cns2007

            My understanding is that it has to reside on the same plain as the display to work properly.

        • SilentPatriot

          /gets out crayons and draws a few circles… o.0

      • vzwuser76

        You remind me of a customer I had awhile back. He wanted cameras that no one could see. We couldn’t use a two way mirror cover or anything like that, he wanted the cameras invisible on a white wall. He just couldn’t comprehend that you can’t pass light through a solid object.

        • TC Infantino

          Wow, it sounds like that customer was a serious creeper. That takes creepy to the next level. Let me guess, he wanted the cameras in the bedrooms and bathrooms? LOL

          • vzwuser76

            No, this was in a commercial setting. It was a high security building, but it was mostly for his employees.

          • TC Infantino

            Huh, I wouldn’t think you would need to hide the cameras in a commercial situation. But, I don’t know the circumstances.

          • vzwuser76

            Think he wanted to catch his employees either screwing off or doing illegal stuff.

    • friguy3

      If they took out the flat tire/light sensor, the bezel would still be thin. I cant stand the flat tire. looks like the screen broke and im missing part of it. But thats our OPINION. We arent buying it, youre right. And WHEN they make one without a flat tire (their engineers will, not me, I cant do their job just like there’s no way you could do mine!), everyone will like it, but you cant have it, because you like your flat tire.

      • vzwuser76

        So you’re the only person in the world who can do your job? Quite an ego you have there.

        • friguy3

          I never said nobody can do my job. Please read carefully. I said I can’t do theirs, maybe you can. And I said you can’t do mine. I didn’t say nobody else can do mine. A lot of people do my job, but I doubt you can.

          • vzwuser76

            You’re making an assumption. You have no idea what I can or cannot do. I would never be so arrogant to say no one could do my job without knowing the first thing about them. That’s the point I was making.

          • friguy3

            Well, prove me wrong. I know I’m not an engineer so I can’t do their job. Can you do mine? What kind of a doctor are you?

          • vzwuser76

            Where did I say that I absolutely could do your job? What I DID say is that you shouldn’t make assumptions without having all the facts.

          • friguy3

            I do have the facts. I’m not an engineer. And you, or I’m mostly sure, almost everyone here, doesn’t do what I do. So, was I right?

          • vzwuser76

            No, because you’re still assuming, or are facts and mostly sure the same thing? Do you really think you’re the only doctor who’s interested in technology? Many people I know in the medical field, doctors, nurses, and those in support positions, are into it. I doubt you’re the only one on here, but I wouldn’t state that as a fact because I don’t know that with 100% certainty. You may very well be the only doctor on here, but you can’t say that with any certainty either. So before stating that I or anyone else could not do your job, remember that you have no idea who anyone here is or what they do.

          • friguy3

            I never said there are no doctors, what I said was there are none that do what I do.

          • vzwuser76

            And how do you know that for a fact? That’s why I said you’re making assumptions. With the entire population of the world, you can sit there and say with certainty that no one on here does what you do?

          • friguy3

            Yes

          • vzwuser76

            Not surprising at all.

      • g

        No, it wouldnt. The light sensor makes the black bar usable space. If the sensor wasnt there, the bar would still exist. Circular displays still have rectangular connections; they have to go somewhere. if you fully expose the circle, then you get very large bezels. If you bury it 2mm into the circle, you get a black bar and an extremely thin bezel. Tradeoffs.

        Exhibit A: http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/asfwe-600×345.jpg

        source: am mechanical engineer in mobile industry

  • Charlie R.

    The first Moto 360 was being worn publicly at Google I/0 2014, and it didn’t release until September!!

    This is no indication that the new one will be out anytime soon.

  • friguy3

    why wouldnt they put the ambient light sensor in the lugs!?! No flat tire, still have the sensor!

    • Godzilla

      m sorry but that is the most idiotic thing i have heard. The lugs are there to anchor the band, you cant just hollow them out and put crap into them.

      • friguy3

        why do you say that? I bet you CAN hollow them out and put stuff in them. LG as a 55inch TV that is 1mm thick. Yea, 1 millimeter. Bet youd say, no, you cant just make a TV the width of a piece of paper, but they just did. We have sensors in watch bands which are just as thin/thick. We have glucose sensors in contact lenses! The most idiotic thing someone says is, you cant just do that. You be happy with what you have, ill have companies push for new technology.

        • vzwuser76

          His point was that it is a structural support. It needs to be strong so that the lug doesn’t break and you have yourself a paper weight. I used to work in construction, and saying you can’t do that is most definitely not idiotic, especially when some office worker wants to knock out a load bearing wall. Yes, we as humans can accomplish many things, but (at least so far) we can’t break the laws of physics.

  • Salar Sadri

    Please no!!! Flat tire in 2015? #TBT

  • Philip Chang

    Come on 8188 steps! This guy need to keep it up!

    • PoisonApple31

      He obviously gained all those steps while on the train or some other moving vehicle!

  • TechGuy22

    Ewww flat tire again
    i hate the look on mine

  • Matthew DiGiacomo

    Motorola FAIL with the flat tire again.

  • stvon11

    Who is designing these things, Tom brady?

    • Danrarbc

      I’ll take a flat tire every time until there’s a full round option with an ambient light sensor (and doesn’t have gigantic bezels)

      • Godzilla

        A million times this

        • wrkerr

          +1

      • Koneesha

        Prepare to get a bunch of upvotes. The last article where I said this got about 25. The only people who seem to hate it are those that don’t actually own one.

        • Big EZ

          A lot of those that hate it don’t own one for that reason. I would’ve bought one if it wasn’t for the sensor. It’s the only smart watch I’d even consider at this point, and that one flaw is the only thing keeping me from getting one.

          • scastro87

            Once you use it, you forget it’s there. It’s never bothered me.

          • This x1000

        • I owned one and hated the flat tire. I loved the style of the watch but ultimately bad battery life and the flat tire drove me to return it. If they released one with a better baterry and no flat tire I’d be sold, didn’t happen.

          • Duffman

            Ahh, you weren’t one of those that stuck around for the update, were you?

          • On the contrary it updated as soon as I powered it on. I bought mine in February this year so it was already out (the update). I took it back after a week or two because the combination of the hardware, software, and battery made it feel like TOO much of an alpha model instead of a refined and complete product. But let’s be real, all of the smart watches were in the same boat. I LOVED the design of the first moto 360 sometimes I wish I kept it, but I can’t see myself keeping a 400 dollar device when it doesn’t perform how I want it too. Now I don’t even like the casing or button placement on the new 360. Then they brought back that dreadful flat tire again that I didn’t like. This on top of the newer design which I think is no where near as elegant as the first. I might just go back and buy the first one again how that they’re selling at nearly half the price. Or wait another year…

        • MH

          They could drill a small hole in the case and have it peek out the top side.

        • Ryan N

          Are you a psychic? Lol

      • Mobin Amanzai

        sooooo, Huawei watch?

        • vzwuser76

          Which doesn’t have an ambient light sensor.

          • MH

            So it only has no auto brightness setting?

          • vzwuser76

            There’s two different things you’re talking about. The ambient light sensor automatically adjusts the brightness of the display according to the surrounding light. But in the Android Wear settings, there’s an Ambient Mode that keeps the display on all the time, and dims it after a period of no activity.

          • MH

            It should have read, “so it doesnt have an auto brightness setting”

        • Danrarbc

          Doesn’t have a light sensor.

      • Flat_Stanley

        Sadly Apple has patented the use of a photovoltaic ambient light sensor behind the screen. It’s really pretty clever. Hopefully some other companies can find a workaround or similar solution.

        • Victor Stuber

          And yet they have the biggest bezel of them all…

        • Tejas Mehta

          I agree +1. They need to get the sensor behind the display somehow!

      • Hector G

        How about putting an ambient light sensor on the casing (like the IR blaster in phones)? That is what i was expecting them to do this generation for the 360.

  • Danrarbc

    Hmmm, I like this better than the Fossil. Is that an OLED? It seems to handle the ambient mode better.

    Looks like they might have shaved more than 1mm off the thickness.

  • Gr8Ray

    I can’t get past trying to figure out where that second guy is wearing his… halfway up his forearm? On the side? Whaaaaa?

    • Nick V

      Looks like his hand is in his pocket, so you aren’t seeing the hand, just the wrist to the arm

  • Colin Huber

    They made it uglier?

  • Grant Gregory

    I like the design, will probably end up getting it. It actually looks like a watch.

  • Pit

    I have the original 360 and eventhough I love the watch, I think it need better wear optimization,

    • Danrarbc

      It is the old SoC. The integer performance is actually really good – but it is a weaker GPU than the other watches and Android uses floating point ops too, and OMAP is weak there.

      • Duffman

        Oh man, funniest comment of the day! GPU on a smartwatch underpowered… I’m about to pee my pants!

  • Rodeojones000

    Flat tire. Ugh.

  • ChrisI

    “Cognac band and Rose Gold casing”…….what is this, an Apple advertisement? These adjectives are so pretentious.

    • PoisonApple31

      Ever even look to see how Motorola refers to the materials? Wake up.

      Technically, Champagne Gold is Motorola’s term though.

      • ChrisI

        Apple’s “rose gold” iphone was I believe the first time I’d ever heard that term. Had it been said before somewhere?

        • PoisonApple31

          Samsung had a Rose Gold Note 3 with Rose Gold trim

        • T_Dizzle

          You’re joking right? Rose gold has been around for many years. Maybe you just meant phones and smart watches. Don’t feel the need to reply, I just had to rant for a sec.

      • ChrisI

        I’m upvoting everything except the “wake up” portion.

        • PoisonApple31

          Haha! What goes around comes around! πŸ™‚

    • But the band is Cognac colored and the casing is Rose Gold?

      • Razma

        looks brown to me

      • ChrisI

        http://www.colorcombos.com/tags/colors/cognac
        It’s brown. Or red. Or reddish-brown. Have to love how colors somehow get associated with expensive brand names to boost their marketing appeal.

        And gold comes in multiple colors. As do roses in fact. So I just don’t get it. Just sounds like an Apple spiel to me.

        • vzwuser76

          That’s not limited to Apple or any other tech company. Hunter green, mother of pearl white, avocado green, candy apple red, canary yellow, there are some names that just catch on.

          • ChrisI

            Well those are different than describing it as Grey Goose clear, Lamborghini yellow, Ferrari red, Abercrombie white…..etc

          • vzwuser76

            That makes no sense. It’s not called Apple Rose Gold or Apple Cognac. Rose Gold has been around in jewelry for quite awhile now, just as Cognac has been used to describe different leather products of a certain shade like shoes or belts. My brother used to do work in antibody, specifically paint matching. He once told me that there are over 1000 shades of white, so saying it’s brown is no different, there are multiple shades of brown as well. IIRC, Cognac is brown with more of a red tint to it.

    • TSY87

      That’s actually a pretty standard term for both those items.

  • MichaelFranz

    don’t get me wrong the functionality of the light sensor is great but i just think its in such a bad spot. Couldn’t they just make it into a round sensor and maybe give it bezel?

    • vzwuser76

      If it was even possible to make a round sensor (I’m assuming you mean a ring around the entire face) you might as well have a bezel all the way around it. And since the only watches with ALSs either have a flat tire or a bezel all the way around, a round (ring) sensor isn’t possible. So your options are edge to edge with a flat tire, a bezel all the way around, or drop the ALS and have an edge to edge display.

  • JP

    I finally bit the bullet and got a 360 since it was cheap on Amazon. Today is my first say with it and I love it already. I can’t imagine a new version will be worth the money they will likely want for it. I’ll probably upgrade this holiday season but NOT to another 360. Motorola completely screwed this release up. They waited too long and STILL haven’t announced anything. Their loss.

  • The Bilderbergers

    Huawei Watch HERE I COME!!!!

    • Duffman

      More like “here you wait”. Good luck! I thought the delay on the first 360 was insane, but the Huawei watch… you have better chances at wining the lottery.

      • Dave12308

        Better than releasing a flawed device. Perhaps if they’d worked on it a bit longer, Motorola could have lost the flat tire. They just didn’t care to.

  • RoboCop

    I just want the screen and battery improved. Idc about the flat tire. The first gen screen looked first gen. I also wish I could voice text and do calls like the Samsung watches.

  • Godzilla

    Curious about battery life

    • Tyler Durden

      Ask Sarge

      • BAM1789

        So meta….

  • PoisonApple31

    I think I might go grab another first gen 360 in a different color

  • John

    Glad I didn’t wait for this and got the LG urbane.

  • JiGSaW525

    Well at least they fixed the cracking issue on the back with those lugs.

    Now remove the flat tire (don’t like it at all), upgrade the processor to a Snapdragon, get a bigger battery, OLED and include NFC then I am in. Ohh and also for $199.99 with a regular band, but $50 more for a metal version.

    My wish list to ditch my LG G Watch R πŸ™‚

    • Ronald Bernard

      I had the same issue with cracking. Gonna just wait and see if there is anything BETTER abou this one. If not gonna use my Best Buy total protection warranty to return the currently cracked one and get something else.

      • Danrarbc

        I’m trying to RMA my second unit as close to the end of my warranty as possible.

        Maybe there’s an outside shot of them swapping it with the new model… Okay that’s a pipe dream.

  • Ronald Bernard

    Did anyone else have the issue of cracking on the backside of the first gen? I have been thru two watches. Maybe it was a design flaw and that’s why they decided to add the lugs. I personally don’t mind it.aybe improved internals this year. We will see.

    • PoisonApple31

      I bought my 360 at launch and have not had this happen to me.

      • Ronald Bernard

        It could be the pebble metal band I am using but a friend also had the same issue with a stock band. IDK. Either way I have the Best Buy warranty so gonna upgrade with my current one that is cracked when it comes out.

        • PoisonApple31

          I have black w/black leather band too, so not similar to your experience anyway I guess. πŸ™‚

        • vzwuser76

          I have a pebble band and haven’t had the issue.

      • JiGSaW525

        I believe it was the placement of where the watch sits on people’s wrists. If it was snug, you didn’t have this issue.

        I didn’t own the watch though.

    • cns2007

      It’s a known issue. Mine has never cracked, but it has been reported. I don’t think it is as widespread as some would make it out to be though.

  • sean parmenter

    Is it me or are the lugs on the gold version closer together than the black version?

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      Looks the same.

  • Bryan

    How do these people get better shots of a device on the arm of somebody walking down the street without them noticing than the people that leak pictures of a device they are holding at home?

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      I’d say planned leak

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    • Clint O

      Hilarious I +100 this

    • ThatGuyWhoRuinedIt

      They honestly don’t care. I took the pic of the rose gold one, and the woman definitely knew what I was doing and didn’t mind. She was also on the phone though.

  • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

    Feeling pretty meh about this. Especially the flat tire(yes I’m still on it)… Where is Huawei?

    • PoisonApple31

      Not upvoting the Huawei part of your comment though…

  • Mordecaidrake

    Love it, the flat tire really doesn’t bother me. The notifications are square shaped so it fits.

  • Inquizitor

    Looks worse. Same flaws as before, but now it also has those unsightly band straps and the button is off-center. Moto why?

    • Ryan N

      As for the the button location, the new position is less likely to get pressed when wrist is bent if it sits lower on your wrist.

      • BAM1789

        I’ve had a Moto 360 since launch last year and have never once pressed the button with my wrist bent.. I wear it every single day, that’s a lot of opportunities to press that button.

        The new position is ugly, plain and simple.

        • Dlang123

          I have a moto360 for a couple of weeks, and constantly pressed the button when my hand was bent. Maybe you just have weak wrists.

          • BAM1789

            Was that suppose to be you making fun of me somehow? Here, let me try.. Maybe your wrists are just too fat to be wearing a watch in the first place..

          • Dlang123

            Nope, wasn’t making fun of you, was just suggesting how your situation may be different than my situation. Had I been making fun of you I would of said something along the lines of “You have the limp wrists of a 90 year old arthritic”, or something along those lines. Maybe your wrists don’t bend back as much as mine? Maybe you never cross your arms? That seemed to be when I hit the button the most, standing around with my arms crossed. But I know in my small sample size, it was an issue. Have a pebble now, and it wears much looser than the metal strap Moto360 I had. Not an issue on the pebble. If they put better battery life in this one, nfc, and the back doesn’t crack, I will buy it.

          • BAM1789

            NFC and battery life would be an instant buy for me even though I believe the design worse. Glad we’re cool /first bump

          • vzwuser76

            And your experience is everyone else’s, right? For people who are supposed to be so smart, how is it that you can’t comprehend that maybe different people have different experiences?

          • Nick V

            This is the new world we live in. Either you agree with someone, or you are some type of racist pedophile. It’s crazy. I am not sure why we can’t have opinions. Like, Verizon Wireless. Their customers are a bunch of… Oh, sorry. I mean, a bunch of great guys. Didn’t see your name. πŸ™‚

          • vzwuser76

            Hey, if I had any other options, I’d go with them, but either it’s either Verizon or nothing. And since I can’t move a 1200 acre farm to find better cell service, I’m stuck with them. Personally don’t have any problems with their other customers, just their employees.

          • Nick V

            You sound like my brother. He doesn’t have a farm though

        • I never use the button on my 360, I think the only time I ever even pressed the button was when I initially turned it on out of the box and that’s it.

      • T_Dizzle

        As a former jeweler, I can definitely agree. This was a problem for many people across many lines of watches.

      • Inquizitor

        That’s actually a fair point.

  • BeerOnTap

    Waa waa, boo hoo, flat tire, waaaa.

    I love my 360 and will take it’s light sensor over one without any day.

    • Maximβˆ‘

      now it has a larger bezel and a flat tire.

      • cns2007

        Where did you read the bezel is larger? Serious question.

    • Upvote for grammar self policing πŸ™‚

    • atc-tech

      I have never felt my G watch R was missing something by not having a sensor. I’ve adjusted the brightness on it maybe twice in the almost year I’ve had it. Double clicking the button to put it in theater mode is the most common thing I do at any given time. Even the super dim always on screen is too bright for a dark room.

  • beefcat

    Glad I waited, now I can buy the OG 360 for much cheaper πŸ™‚

    • Orion

      Might as well. Both have the flat tire look. Better off getting the OG and save money.

  • Orlando Sablon III

    Buying the gold

  • Jim Vargas

    Maybe it’s just me but the one thing keeping me from buying one if these is Android Wear’s lack of NFC payment support. I would be much more inclined to make a payment with my watch than my phone. Hate to say it but this is one thing the iWatch got right.

  • 35psi or bust.

    • Ryan N

      What do you think about the lugs? I think it helps it sit flatter and also avoids sacrificing internal volume for band accommodation that could be used instead for a larger battery.

      • I don’t mind the lug placement at all (aesthetically), but then again I haven’t owned a watch of any kind in 20 years. I just figure, if I’m going to get back into the game with a smart watch, it should at least have 100% screen coverage. Just my 2 Β’

        • Ryan N

          True. In a perfect world. But with the lack of progression in battery tech compared to the market as a whole, wouldn’t you see it a fit sacrifice to house a sensor that could improve battery life by 50%. Plus, I’d rather have a bit of black on the bottom than a full black screen when the battery dies. πŸ™‚

          • Nope. Becuase I will never need a smart watch. But reading this site occasionally makes me think of perhaps maybe kinda sorta buying one as an impulse purchase. That being said, I still can’t accept less than 100% circumference. πŸ˜‰

          • Ryan N

            As a non-user, I can absolutely understand your apprehension in regards to the flat tire. But I’ve had mine over a year and had stopped noticing the black bar within the first few days. 99% of 360 will attest to this. If you have a friend that will lend you one give it a go. It must just make that impulse to buy that much stronger!

          • As an owner, I can absolutely understand your desire to defend your purchase in regards to the flat tire. πŸ˜‰ I don’t foresee ever needing a smartwatch, but if I get one as an impulse buy, it will be 360 version 3.0 or later. I didn’t get an iPod until they had video capabilities, and that was like 5.0 or something. I can wait.

            “…I’ve had mine over a year and had stopped noticing the black bar within the first few days…”

            Sounds like you’re talking about your new home purchase in an almost-all-white neighborhood. Context. =) lol

          • Ryan N

            I suppose you make a good point. And also accentuate the fact that I’m clearly a chronic early adopter. I was rockin an iPod 1G before people even knew what an iPod was. Lol.

          • We all have our vices. πŸ˜‰

          • Noeltorious

            lol yes we stop noticing it….until you want to see what time it is between xx:26-xx:34 on a dial watch face rofl

          • Erik Tyler

            I think that’s the problem. Buyers who keep it end up getting used to the flat tire, but many either return it or never buy it at all because of the black bar. With the Huawei Watch, etc. about to hit, a flat tire looks dated and it was misguided (at best) for Motorola not to fix it in the sequel. A real shame…

          • Dave12308

            Which leads to the question. Why not wait for Huawei to release theirs?

          • Dave12308

            For me to make an impulse buy like this, the device needs to be FLAWLESS.

          • Dave12308

            Same. I’m thinking they could have done something different with the ambient light sensor, like somehow incorporating it into the bezel. Like yourself, reading about these MIGHT prompt an impulse buy. If only they were more stylish looking.

          • Terry

            You know, with all the banter about you guys accepting that these pics could be the next moto, I’ve noticed one similarity in this model which is a 2:00 button. Isn’t this a design of another up and coming watch? Why would moto copy a 2:00 design off another maker and give up pole position on the patented 3:00 design?? I’m just saying! I don’t think this is a moto at all. Guess we’ll know in 1 week! I on the other hand love the old design and just need wifi and possibly GPS. I hate sleeping with any watch on arm and find zero problems charging it in its base overnight. As a watch guy I’ll probably own all of the smart watches as well as favorite regular watches over time.

        • Dave12308

          Like you, I haven’t worn a watch in years. Unlike yourself, however, I still don’t see the point of a smart watch. I don’t find it inconvenient to pull my phone out to check the time.

          • WestSiide

            But it isn’t just to tell the time. If you get a lot of notifications throughout the day, it’s about the convenience of not having to pull your phone out to check them each time. Some may not even be worth checking, and those you can ignore until you decide when to respond or simply ignore. A notification that requires immediate attention can be replied to from the watch itself or from the phone. Its all about convenience. I agree that nobody needs a smartwatch, but the same can be said about a smartphone.

          • Dave12308

            I won’t completely discount the idea of an impulse buy of the original drops below$100

  • vwbeetlvr

    Looks like I won’t be needing to upgrade my OG 360. Get rid of the flat tire, or no sale.

    • Julian C. Taborda

      would you rather have a device with no ambient light sensor? Reviews of the Huawei watch say that’s a major annoyance and I love how my moto 360 adjusts to the ambient light currently

      • needa

        mine stays at max, dont need the sensor.

  • viewthis66

    that looks good… looks like i’ll be ditching my 1st gen for this one.

    • vwbeetlvr

      What looks good about it?

      • kretz7

        Exactly, 1st gen looks better. Those lugs look ridiculous.

        • Brian

          Those lugs make it look more like a timepiece…..gd idiots.

          • kretz7

            I didn’t say lugs look ridiculous, I just think their choice was bad. It would look better if they were a bit wider or tapered out towards the side more. The watch is big – both wide and thick – those lugs belong on a smaller, thinner watch. This of course is just my idiotic opinion.

        • Koneesha

          I gotta agree. The original is so sleek especially with the metal band. These just look super clunky.

        • NBMTX

          different strokes for different folks, I’d take a clunky IWC Portofino-looking watch over a clunky Braun BN-whatever-looking watch, any day… hopefully one of them is in the 42mm area for size

      • Steve

        I thought the first one looked like a swatch watch from 1988. This one looks more like a watch.

    • T_Dizzle

      Crazy that I could end with their nexus and watch.

  • Tony BW

    Appears to be a little less flat…not bad though…

  • Defenestratus

    Sigh

    Guess I’ll be waiting for the TAG watch afterall. Not upgrading unless it gets rid of the flat tire.

    • Danrarbc

      You either settle for the flat or you settle for a larger bezel. And apparently you almost never get a light sensor if you don’t have the flat either – you have no idea how convenient that sensor is. I’ve never once touched a brightness setting on my 360.

      • friguy3

        why not put the sensor in the lugs?? no flat tire, thin bevels, light sensor….win-win-win!

        • vzwuser76

          And no one will complain that one lug has a black spot and the others don’t.

          • friguy3

            well id assume you would make it so they dont look different. black casing with black lugs you can hide sensors behind them and you cant tell. like the front of your cable box

          • vzwuser76

            That’s fine if the only case color you have is black.

          • friguy3

            I would hope that someone smart in the industry can come up with new ways to have a sensor behind a white or silver or another color material. They have sensors on cars all around them that blend in with what ever color your car is.

          • vzwuser76

            A senior has to have a clear view to work, and normally is behind tinted glass. That’s why sensors aren’t as easy to spot on a black background. Look at any smartphone with a white or silver face, you can spot all the sensors on it. So if they can’t do it with that kind of real estate, how are they going to do it with the limited real estate of a smartwatch lug? And cars have infinitely more space to hide sensors that either a smartphone or watch.

          • friguy3

            Listen, I’m no engineer or anything. Some just needs to figure it out. Everything is impossible or would be difficult to do, until someone figures it out. Develop a new light sensor. Develop a new wayto do it. That’s all. Dont say it can’t be done, or how could they do it. Figure it out (not you are me, Motorola)

          • vzwuser76

            People can be innovative, but again there’s this thing called the laws of physics, and so far, we haven’t found a way around it, not even people smarter than Motorola engineers. Many things are possible, just as many things are impossible. That’s reality.

          • TheFirstUniverseKing

            Eli McCrory in another Droid Life post suggested including the light sensor in the power button. It’s a great suggestion that probably won’t look as unsightly as having one on a lug. And it should still be possible given the laws of physics.

          • vzwuser76

            Except the sensor has to be on the same surface as the display, or at least facing the same way, for it to work properly. It’d be not much different that having the proximity sensor for your phones display on the side, it just wouldn’t work correctly.

          • TheFirstUniverseKing

            That’s not quite what I meant. It would be on the part of the button that sticks out (the cylindrical part, not the face of the button), so it would be facing the user. They may have to make the button stick out a little more, but that’d just make it look more like a regular watch’s crown, which isn’t a huge drawback.

          • vzwuser76

            For them to be able to put a sensor in the side of the button, it’d have to be huge. The proximity sensor on the face of a smartphone between 1/16-1/8″, plus what’s behind it.

          • Tejas Mehta

            Can a sensor even rest in a rounded area?

          • Danrarbc

            Then the button would be black. It would be less unsightly, but it still would look a bit odd. Then you also create issues for lefties wearing long sleeves – makes it more likely for the sensor to be in shade when the display isn’t.

          • TylerChappell

            I said that ages ago! I just wish I knew if I was the first to suggest it so Motorola could hire me. πŸ˜›

          • Tejas Mehta

            As flatstanley said above “Sadly Apple has patented the use of a photovoltaic ambient light sensor behind the screen.” If motorola can put a sensor behind the display, then no one will worry about the black color of the sensor.

          • vzwuser76

            And as stated, the only way to put a sensor in the display is patented by a competitor. What I am talking about is putting sensors in the casing, which will be conspicuous in any casing color other than black. If Motorola wants to keep their edge to edge display and the ambient light sensor, there is no way to do it in the case.

          • friguy3

            So you can’t put a light sensor behind the screen, but reading ahead, apple has a patent of a light sensor behind the screen. So the impossible has happened. Physics has been pushed aside.

          • vzwuser76

            I never said they couldn’t put it behind the screen, but as stated earlier, that technology is patented by a competitor, so it’s off limits. We were talking about putting it in the casing, which hasn’t changed. You still can’t put a sensor behind and opaque object and have it work.

          • friguy3

            My point was, everyone probably said you can’t put it behind a screen till someone figured out how. someone just has to come up with a new novel idea on where to put a sensor. And I hope they do. Someone suggested the power button. Just ideas. And I know you can’t have it behind a solid object. But what if there was a way to make a tiny hole the wasn’t visible due to some paint and therefore it’s hidden. Maybe?

          • vzwuser76

            I deal with electronics, design and fabrication in both the private and commercial construction industry. These ideas you want to people to “just come up with” don’t happen that easily. Making light accessible to a sensor through a display panel is one thingthing, making it accessible through metal is quite another.

          • friguy3

            I didn’t say through metal. A hole, covered by a paint or matrial which is permiable to light allowing the sensor to activate. I have no idea if it exists or not, but my point is, someone would have to come up with a novel way or place for the sensor. I’m not an engineer, so I just have abstarct ideas. But it doesn’t mean it’s impossible.

          • vzwuser76

            The casing is metal, and since Apple holds the patent to put a sensor in the display, the only other option is the casing. There isn’t any paint that would cover enough to hide the sensor and still be light permeable. The only covers over these sensors are tinted or clear. It’s just like what’s on your remote control, you either have a piece of darkened red lexan over the IR blaster, or it’s left bare. There are sensors on the front of every smartphone to turn the screen off then you put the phone to your ear. On anything but a black phone, those sensors are visible.

            I understand you have ideas, but they need to have some science behind them.

          • Danrarbc

            Still hasn’t happened on phones. There is a black window over the sensor on all phones that have them too.

            The sensors on most cars are radar sensors. Most light sensors in cars are on top of the dashboard and behind the back seat – and are visible.

          • dkn

            The case color can be dual toned. Problem solved!

        • NBMTX

          I imagine it’d weaken the lug and/or be susceptible to damage.

    • Orion

      Exactly! I don’t know why moto just can’t figure out the damn flat tire. Every other OEM doesn’t have it.

      • vzwuser76

        And none of them have an ambient light sensor either, that’s the difference.

        • Orion

          Then to hell with the ambient light sensor lol.

      • Koneesha

        The flat makes the 360 so much more useful because then you don’t have to worry about the brightness

    • NBMTX

      the Tag might still have a “flat tire”… and for $1400 you should seriously consider buying a quartz Aquaracer… or an automatic Hamilton with hundreds of dollars available for the [flat tire including] similarly styled Fossil AW watch or the 360v2

      • kretz7

        Hell, you can find automatic Tag’s online for less than $1,400. I’m guessing the people that can spend $1,400 on a smartwatch can probably afford whatever watch they want.

    • atc-tech

      The G Watch R and Urbane don’t have the flat tire. I’ve been using a G Watch R for a year. I love it. I get tons of compliments on it, even a couple people that hadn’t ever considered a smartwatch that thought they might buy it BECAUSE of the style. Hilariously, several of them were iPhone users who had to be told they can’t use Android Wear.

      • vzwuser76

        And none of the LG watches have an ambient light sensor. The Moto 360 is the only round smartwatch that has an edge to edge disay and the ambient light sensor, which is why the flat tire is present. If LG wanted to, they could probably hide an ambient light sensor in the ring around the display. The sticking point is the edge to edge display and the ambient light sensor, get rid of either and you could lose the flat tire, otherwise it’s a necessary evil.

  • Cael

    The black bar looks smaller…or could just be the angle.

  • JimmyHACK

    Little thinner? pretty much the same.

    • madfarts

      It looks bigger, but maybe that guy in the top picture just has a little boy wrist.

  • Daniel Walsh

    What a joke

  • Tyler Durden

    looks the same

  • Joe Cross

    These are some super shady pics. I feel like the black watch was photographed with some sort of briefcase spy cam or something

  • Tony G.

    ‘Bout that action boss

  • Ryan N
    • T_Dizzle

      That’s one ugly crier you’ve got there.

  • jbworldwide1

    Flat tire 2015. (I still love mines tho)

    • tomgillotti

      Like land mines…?

      • jbworldwide1

        Yes….like land mines.