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Galaxy Nexus Roundup: Only 16GB Showing from Google, No Flash Support, Vodafone Still Testing, and No USB Mass Storage

Since it’s a Saturday and there are a ton of Galaxy Nexus stories floating about, we thought one massive post would be a better option than forcing you to click around between a half dozen stories. Chatter over the last 12 hours or so has involved the lack of Flash support at this time, an updated spec list showing just a 16GB model in the states, a lack of USB mass storage, and Vodafone (Verizon’s Euro partner) refusing to sell the G-Nex while they finish up testing. Lots of stuff, so let’s jump through it. 

Up first is this adjustment to Google’s landing page for the Galaxy Nexus showing that the device will only have 16GB of internal storage. On Thursday, this same site listed both 32GB and 16GB options, so this change is a little confusing. We know that folks with the device in hand already have 32GB versions (LTE as well), leaving us even more confused. Could they possibly cut out the 32GB option? I would certainly hope not. Since the phone has internal storage only, and no chance to add additional space through a micro SD card, this would be a huge disappointment. And let’s not forget about the $299 price tag we have seen time and time again. Both the RAZR and Rezound come with 32GB of total storage, are expandable to 48GB, and priced at $299 – we better see the 32GB version of this phone or there are going to be a lot of unhappy Android addicts.

Update: As one of our readers pointed out in the comments, Verizon’s own training documents show that the phone will launch with 32GB. Try not to freak out yet, folks.

Reports from a variety of places have pointed out the fact that the Galaxy Nexus does not come loaded with Flash 11, nor can it be found in the market as a supported app. Adobe announced last week that they were stopping development on mobile Flash, so the idea that Ice Cream Sandwich is not currently supported, sort of makes sense. The good news is that Google fully expects there to be a working version in the near future and had this to say to SlashGear:

“Flash hasn’t been released for ICS yet so as far as we know, Adobe will support Flash for ICS.” – Google

So try not to stress over something like Flash at this point. And I wouldn’t doubt it if you could simply pull Flash from a currently supported device, sideload it on the G-Nex and get it to work as it does on every other phone.

According to Pocket-Lint, Vodafone has refused to sell the Galaxy Nexus in Europe while they finish up testing on it, similarly to what Verizon is rumored to be doing. This may seem irrelevant to those here in the states, but it should be noted that Vodafone is Verizon’s Euro partner.

“We’re continuing to test the GALAXY Nexus software to ensure our customers get the best possible experience of the device. We’ll provide concrete details on availability once the testing process has been successfully completed.”

After reading that, I think it’s clear that Big Red’s partner in the wireless game is as anal picky thorough as they are when it comes to testing. To be fair though, Verizon has always stressed that they want their customers to have the best mobile experience possible, so extra testing measures aren’t necessarily a bad thing. If testing takes an extra couple of weeks, I’m fine with that as long as the experience is almost flawless.

And the last part of this mega-G-Nex post has to do with the lack of USB mass storage on the device. Shocked to hear that? You aren’t the only one. To explain his team’s move, Android engineer Dan Morrill took to reddit to discuss:

ICS supports USB Mass Storage (UMS). The Galaxy Nexus does not. This is the same scenario as Honeycomb, as for instance HC supports USB Mass Storage while Xoom does not.

If a given device has a removable SD card it will support USB Mass Storage. If it has only built-in storage (like Xoom and Galaxy Nexus) it will (usually) support only MTP and PTP.

It isn’t physically possible to support UMS on devices that don’t have a dedicated partition for storage (like a removable SD card, or a separate partition like Nexus S.) This is because UMS is a block-level protocol that gives the host PC direct access to the physical blocks on the storage, so that Android cannot have it mounted at the same time.

With the unified storage model we introduced in Honeycomb, we share your full 32GB (or 16GB or whatever) between app data and media data. That is, no more staring sadly at your 5GB free on Nexus S when your internal app data partition has filled up — it’s all one big happy volume.

However the cost is that Android can no longer ever yield up the storage for the host PC to molest directly over USB. Instead we use MTP. On Windows (which the majority of users use), it has built-in MTP support in Explorer that makes it look exactly like a disk. On Linux and Mac it’s sadly not as easy, but I have confidence that we’ll see some work to make this better.

On the whole it’s a much better experience on the phone.

And he didn’t stop there. If you cruise over to this reddit thread and search for user morrildl, you can find a variety of responses to questions from other reddit users. He talks file systems, SD cards, why some phones leave out external storage slots altogether, and more. Great reads.

Cheers Chris, Chris, Michael, Richard and so many others!

  • the site now says 32gig version 

  • Alex T

    I think they are holding back cuz of bugs. Or else why won’t they release the HSPA+ version here in the states?

    • Anonymous

      because Verizon is supposed to be getting an exclusive deal.. so no HSPA+ for a while in the US

  • One thing about Mass Storage…you can now save your music to google’s cloud using Google Music.  This should free up a lot of room on people’s phones, and 32GB may be more than you would need ATM.

    • Jmj3783

      Yeah But if you have a 2GB or even 4GB plan, how much of that will you use streaming music from the “cloud” ?

      • Despends if you are on Wifi or not.  Plus, I have an unlimited plan..so it doesn’t matter.

  • Nsbjj

    I am loving my new RAZR.  I only wish I didn’t wait so long.  Good luck to all of you still waiting on the Nexus.

    • Anonymous

      care to share with us what is so great about the Razr? (and I am seriously interested). The more time passes.. the more the Galaxy nexus is losing it’s appeal.. I might consider the Razr/Rezound instead.

      • I am loving my RAZR as well! What is great? Well I have it and am using it. It is very light and thin so I do not notice in my pocket. I am still use to the thick bulky phone I had before. It has Flash support which I am now reading the Nexus won’t have out of the gate. On the 4G network everything so fast. I showed it off to a co-worker and he remarked that he has seen personal home computers go slower loading up web pages and streaming video. Everything I have thrown at it concerning apps and video playback has just worked. I have yet to get any of the lockups the article last week was referring to. To me it seems like a small tablet computer with phone.

  • Twitter: AlwaysAndroid

    Personally, as long as it doesn’t give me AIDS or cause terrorism, I am still getting this phone. All my music is on GoogleMusic anyways, so I don’t have to worry about space and I rarely have my phone in my pocket so being a little bigger isn’t an issue. You guys can have fun waiting for Verizon’s next pure Google phone, oh wait…

  • Mass Storage kinda seems like a big thing.  I was fine with no memory cards because I have a Tbolt with a free 32 gb memory card and plenty of space.  No mass storage means I can’t easily put videos and other things onto my phone in the most familiar manor.

  • Anonymous

    tinyurl.ie/7fb

  • Ahsan

    Holy shit 709 comments? Most I’ve ever seen here.

  • Anonymous

    I wouldnt buy this nexus for $100 seriously spec for spec it doesn’t beat anything out, unless you want the near tablet sized screen pressed to your head. So its a Nexus, and has the first release of ICS. Well any of us remember the bugs in the first release of any other android version? I’m seriously remembering Froyo specifically. Any of us serious about our phones are going to root and load a ROM on any device we are purchasing. Vanilla Android doesn’t offer nearly as much benefit as Cyanogen anyways. Just my .02 but alot of you guys have been looking at this thing with tunnel vision since the first breath of information regarding it. Not realizing that 1.2ghz dual core is more than sufficient but not the best of whats available, 16gig is acceptable for most especially with a cloud for music 😉 but definitely not something that screams benchmark. No expandable memory is just pathetic, the cost of an empty SD card slot to a manufacturer has to be near that of a pack of gum. 4.65″ is the biggest, but definitely not something for everyone and seriously 5mp? my D2 has a 5mp. This phone should be avoided like the plague since the release of it is the only thing keeping recent and near future device releases from running ICS out of the box. We need to show google that this type of behavior is not acceptable. I speak to this from fact that right now the D4 in development slated to be released this month will be released with GB only because they cannot release ICS before the “flagship” device.

    • Dominick DeVito

      Do you feel better? I hope you do, because that was the biggest load of garbage I’ve read in a long time.

      1. 1.2GHz OMAP 4460 is a great chip
      2. 5MP camera, yes. But has improved sensors + ICS = the best Android camera ever.
      3. 4.65″ is big but the phone is the same size as most 4.3″ – mot point
      4. D4 is being released with 2.3.5 because of Motorola andor Verizon, not Google. If Motorola could keep their pants on and wait a few more weeks then they can release it with ICS. But they don’t care, they want as many phones out as possible. 

      Motorola, Quantity > Quality

      • Kierra

        Do you feel better?

      • Anonymous

        i’m just curious, which phone are you buying, nexus or razr?

  • Avanrysseghem13

    I personally don’t think the phone is big compared to the screen size. People need to think about before complaining. It may be bigger then other phones (barely) but the screen is also bigger. I’ve been looking forward to this phone for for 3+ months. I have considered the razr because I love motos build quality and the rezound for the high res but I want the 4.65″! I do a lot of online research/surfing on my phone so bigger is better for me. I also like to watch videos. This is where I get disappointed. If it only has 16g of storage you can only fit 1 HD movie. It would defeat half of the purpose of my reason for wanting that large screen. I would have to wait for another 4.65″ phone to come out and that pisses me off.

    • Avanrysseghem13

      I am seriously frustrated with Google or samsung or Verizon if they put out this or any top tier android phone with a 16g Max storage capacity. I really hope Google updates their page to say 32g soon or they’re going to lose many would-be nexus purchasers including me. I am now going to start looking into the next phone that will be released with a 4.65″ screen. Thanks for making me hate you Google/Samsung/Verizon or whoever is responsible for this

  • trumpet444

    I completely agree with the Sd card standard. Just because the eyephone comes w/out external storage doesnt mean we want ours w/out an sd slot. As far as 5mp cams? I don’t mind as long as the sensors get better. A 12mp cam may end up just taking a billboard sized piece of crap. I would go for quality over size, to some degree of course. I’m fine with 5-8mp as long as the quality is comparable to standalone 5-8mp cameras

    • Anonymous

      I agree with you on the camera. Larger mp doesn’t attribute to good pictures. These camera phones need better lenses though to make them the quality of standalones. I also think the size of the lenses on cameras in phones is too small compared to say a canon elph, and that is also part of the problem.

  • trumpet444

    Wow. Lots of dirty trolls in here. One of them calls themselves an “angel”

  • Anonymous

    Almost 700 comments. Droid Life has hot to be pulling in a huge amount if advertising dollars on this. Good job DL on directing people to your site. You should give marketing seminars.

  • hatethanet

    Even Apple guys (the reasonable, non-fanboy ones that is) know the Galaxy Nexus is the real deal: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/11/19/galaxy_nexus_web_benchmarks_outpace_iphone_4s_as_woz_picks_up_early_copy.html

    • Dominick DeVito

      That’s because the 4s disappointed them and now see some real competition. 

  • They can’t give you everything, because then you won’t buy the next phone that comes out three mounths later. I really don’t see how MORE people aren’t upset with the fact that verizon released the bionic, then like 2 mouths or less released the RAZAR. We need a standard in the cellphone industry. The fact that it is almost 2012 and they are going to release a phone with out a SD card is crazy. The same for pones still coming out with 5MP cams; but the prices are still going up. I love smartphones, but with all this b.s. going on now, I’m really thinking about buying one more and hanging it up after that.

  • Judging by the amount of comments on articles about this phone it is going to be a huge seller when it finally gets released.

  • nexus on the brain

    Kellen,

    Got to be approaching a record for most comments, now over 600….we close?

    • Anonymous

      Not even, I remember when the Droid got the official update to Froyo the comments were over a thousand.

  • razors edge

    I bought the Razor. No regrets. The build quality is the best I have ever seen. The software has been buttery smooth. The screen blows away the screen that is on my old DX2.

    • debits and credits

      I also picked up a razr, betting that I would be able to return it, but I am very unhappy with the phone. The screen is pretty awful and it gives me a bit of a headache, something my OG doesn’t do.

  • Dominick DeVito

    16GB is not a big deal – get over it. We store all kinds of crap in the cloud, and with LTE speeds it’s a moot point. Also, SD cards slow down the system, that’s a fact.

    The phone isn’t meant to be a hardware beast. Why are so many people not understanding this?!

    • debits and credits

      16 may be enough for you, but it isn’t enough for many. you can clearly see this from other’s reactions here. data is expensive to move, physical storage is cheap. that’s why this confuses me

      • Dominick DeVito

        I see both sides of the argument. For $300 yes I see why people can be upset – you’re paying for it you might as well get it.

        On the flip side, I would take a stab at it and say that most storage is used up for media (pics, songs, movies) – would you agree with that? If so, then most (if not all) of that can now be stored in the cloud. And certainly being in an LTE area this is easier to accomplish. I live in the sticks so yes – I can see the other side of that argument. Up until two days ago we didn’t have LTE (and frankly shocked that we get it now). 

        And having more storage for apps is always a good thing.

        • Anthony Armando

          you are forgetting one very important thing…not everyone is grandfathered into the unlimited data plan. if a person is walking around with a 2gb plan they can only transfer like what 65ish MB a day? if you think about it that can be eaten up very quickly without a lot of wifi micromanagement and people are lazy.

          • Dominick DeVito

            Excellent point. 

  • Anonymous

    Not sure that this is a deal-breaker for me…given the push for cloud-based storage by everyone, this isn’t that big of a deal.  Do you really need EVERY piece of media on your device if you can access it instantly via 3G and 4G? I’ve 1,000 photos on my OG Droid SD card…I DON’T look at all of them and already have them backed up all over the place.

    Looks like Google is pushing the future…

  • JustThinking

    He has a very valid point. Sometimes the SD cards hold things back. Some want more storage for media and some want more storage for apps, and combined storage gives the user both, but that being said their should be tiers of storage. A 16 gig lte Nexus should cost 200 to 250, and everyone will be justifiably angry if the Nexus on Verizon comes in at 300, and because of Verizon’s policy on this kind of stuff I will probably only upgrade with Amazon from now on. Honestly I think if the Nexus sold for 200 dollars most of this backlash would dissipate.  

    • joejoe509

      I would probably use the SD card for music and movies. I would use the actual phone memory for apps and such. Pictures would also find their way onto the phone’s memory. I don’t care if the music is slow, which it shouldn’t be.

  • Donaldrke

    You know after reading about the short comings and the positive of this phone it looks like ICS is what makes this phone attractive, Will the Galaxy SII work on verizon and is it LTE? Has the almost the same features and the only thing missing is ICS. Verizon is the best service in my area. and I was ready to get the Galaxy SII but verizon held out for the nexus. Thanks for any help.

    • joejoe509

      No the GSII will not work for Verizon. you’re right. Verizon waited for the Nexus instead of jumping on the GSII.

  • Anonymous

    No thanks…ill just pop my 32g card I.already own into a razr and get on with life..wow this is what everyone has been acting like is the end all be all of android phones?

  • Anonymous

    Why do you need more than 16GB when you have all your media on cloud services anyways?

    I was planning on getting the 16GB version anyways since I’ve never even come close to filling up my 16gb SD card.

  • Anonymous

    This is too funny. So many people slamming the RAZR and holding out for the “perfect” Nexus. Not sounding so perfect now is it?  Hmmm no flash. No SD card. Perfect phone my ass. Sorry you waited for THIS, lol!!!

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    • Dominick DeVito

      The Razr is a very nice phone, but yet everyone keeps asking the same question.

      “When’s it getting ICS”? Moto dropped the ball. AGAIN. If they waited a released it with ICS it would be the best phone ever. But typical Motorola, always finding a way to disappoint. 

    • People interested in this phone already know about the lack of SD and don’t care. As far as flash go’s, ICS will get it whether Adobe supports it or not. RIM has already announced that they will continue to develope flash regardless and i don’t see any good reason why Google and/or the Andriod community won’t do the same.

    • Monty Waggoner

      You won’t be “lol” when you’re holding that plain RAZR next to my Nexus. 32Gig is plenty, Flash is coming by the end of the year. I can sell my 32Gb card for $15 to a buddy and now my phone costs $285. 

      I want the nexus for the community rom support. My OG droid had 20+ choices in Rom Manager, my Dinc has at least 15. My Droid charge has 2. What a disappointment. A phone that is not supported is no fun. That’s why I’m waiting for the Nexus.  

      • Anonymous

        I respect your reasons for wanting the nexus, but the vast majority of users don’t care about community rom support. They want a phone that looks good and works. I’ve had the incredible, thunderbolt and bionic. all worked fine for my needs, but all looked like boring bricks as does the rezound. to me the razr while maybe not at the very top spec wise, is still near the top and it has some style unlike most of the other android phones. I dont particularly care about ICS because my phone does what I need it to do. I understand your passion because I am that way with my cameras since I’m a photographer. To me the  the RAZR is the best looking phone and despite what many non owners say, it is comfortable to hold. and it works flawlessly. so as a non geek consumer i voted with my wallet and bought the razr.

  • wtfnexus

    just call it the Galaxy Nexsucks

  • Anonymous

    Verizon is the best carrier and Motorola is the best manufacturer . That is why they are loyal to each other lol 🙂

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      • Anonymous

        you seriously are an idiot.

  • Anonymous

    the razr is not even out 2 weeks and this dude is saying that the device is not selling. He is an idiot.

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  • Anonymous

    You have to wait 3 month to be able to tell if these devices did not sell good. They are delaying the nexus because it is garbage. ICS seems to suck with no flash lol

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    • Dominick DeVito

      No you don’t. If no one’s buying the Razr now they certinaly won’t be buying it 3 months from now, because they’ll be a better phone to buy.

      • Anonymous

        Blah blah lol the nexus failed like I expected. The razor is selling pretty well. The best 2 devices razor gs2 period.

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          • Anonymous

            Lol you are not the only dude holding a grudge on motorola lol. Nice try bambino, now go make me some pepperoni pizzas lol.

          • Dominick DeVito

            “you are not the only dude holding a grudge on motorola”

            And why is that? Because they’re garbage. I got news for you trolls, Google bought them for patents. They’re a failing company. Once they have them watch how fast they dump them.

          • Anonymous

            Let’s see about that. If I remember the droid was not a failure like the g1 was lol. Nexus is another failure.

          • Dominick DeVito

            We’ll see. Time will tell. Until then have fun with your Razr

          • Anonymous

            I know about technology. All my facts have been on point. You will see the best 2 will be the razor and gs2.

          • Dominick DeVito

            Based on? Sales? Opinions? Reviews?

          • Anonymous

            Reviews, opinions. Of course the gs2 will sell more its on all the carriers but verizon. It already sold alot all over the world. If we will talk about sales, nobody will come close to the original razr, which sold 130 millions copy worldwide. Is that razr better than the droid razr not.

          • Dominick DeVito

            A co-worker bought a Razr and let me play with it for an afternoon. I really like it, and I really want to own it. But I just wish it had a removable battery – I can get over the UI and OS issues with custom ROMS. The display was okay but rather weak compared to others out (and soon to be out). :p

            I travel a lot and often carry extra batteries for long day trips. I have 3 batteries for my OG and use up all 3 by days’ end (we’re talking about 18 hours worth). I like the design but frankly I thought it was too bold a move to make with dual radio chips. There’s no way the Razr will last me a whole day. So in fact the “upgrade” to a new phone will actually hurt me. I’m sure I’m not alone that feel the same way about it.

          • Anonymous

            If you learn how to use the smart actions you will not need an Extra battery. You can buy them wireless charger, it is the same as having another battery. The only bad thing about this device is that it does not have the settings to change the colors and saturación on the front facing camera. This device is a beast.

          • Dominick DeVito

            I shouldn’t have to jump through hoops to save battery, and on those long days I usually don’t have access to a charger. I commend the Smart Actions feature and hope that Google can add something similar to stock Android. 

            And yes, you can always turn off LTE but the whole point of having a beast is to utilize it the way it was meant to be used.

          • Anonymous

            To be honest, I just use the lte when I browse, you can disabled lte background sync when the device its not moving. The smart actions and moto’s music player are just awesome. My razor last me 20 hours after I tweaked the smart actions. I know the bionic disappointed you but I feel they rushes it because they had an obligation to verizon.

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        • Dominick DeVito

          Yeah it failed yet hasn’t been released.
           
          Stop Moto trollin. Face it there’s a new fan base in Android camp and poor Moto trolls can’t handle it. 

          • Anonymous

            It hasn’t been released and it already failed lol. Nexus devices just have latest operating system that’s it.

          • Dominick DeVito

            Not to mention an entirely new hardware design (no buttons). Google’s dropping hints and Moto’s not picking up on them

          • Anonymous

            There are people that like buttons. Google can even fix the lag issue with the live wallpapers lol. Google need to get their act together already.

          • Dominick DeVito

            Who’s side on you on exactly? LOL

            Yes, there are some folks that like buttons, agreed. But in a few months Moto will release a button-less phone as they play catch up.

          • Anonymous

            Love google but they can’t get their act together.

          • Dominick DeVito

            On what exactly? GPU acceleration? What else?

          • Anonymous

            No flash and the other problems that we will see on ics. Remember ics is on its infancy. They will polish it better on 4.1

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          • Anonymous

            Dammm you are still crying lol.

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          • Dominick DeVito

            Flash is coming. Don’t worry

          • Anonymous

            It should have been out with the new operating system.

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          • Kierra

            lol you are also a troll.

        • Dominick DeVito

          Yup, and the Razr’s indestructible, right?

          https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/507855

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  • Anonymous

    All nexus device are garbage period. They just have the latest os.

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    • Dominick DeVito

      yeah, and an HD screen, NFC, more app storage. Not to mention it will be getting updates FIRST.

      You’re right,, pure garbage. :p

      • Anonymous

        Smart actions in the razor is more useful than nfc lol. Check the android central review. I saw that you cry like a girl over there as well. I knew you were holding a grudge to motorola. Nexus camera sucks, no flash, no storage lol lol lol.

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        • Dominick DeVito

          Smart Actions is a pretty cool feature, can’t argue with that. But that has nothing to do with the fact that it doesn’t have NFC.

          All you Moto trolls do is tell me how great the hardware is. Well then why isn’t NFC in it?

        • Dominick DeVito

          Android Central couldn’t handle people telling them the Bionic sucked. They called it heresy. Looking back I wasn’t wrong. It sucked. 

        • Dominick DeVito

          Not to mention Motorola once again used a horrible display. For $300 they need to start putting better displays on their phones. 

          • Anonymous

            If you are calling the razor display horrible, I don’t know what drugs are you taking lol. It’s not hd but it looks amazing. The gb 2.3.5 in the razor is amazing as well. The razor is close to a perfect device. I can’t wait for what moto has to offer down the road 🙂

          • Dominick DeVito

            It’s a skinny Bionic.

          • Anonymous

            Keep dreaming, the bionic is a beast missing 2 features, a better display and a better build quality. Other than that is close to perfect too.

          • Dominick DeVito

            lol. Okay butterface. Have a nice day.

          • Anonymous

            OK pizza boy you too lol 🙂

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  • Anonymous

    the rezound is huge and ugly. The only thing the rezound has is the camera. It has old gup, small battery and sense is ugly. The only thing i like about sense is the ring to unlock the device and i can get it with widget locker. If people want to buy the best camera they may get the iphone 4 or iphone 4s and not get the rezound. Get your facts straight before you type bs in here.

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  • Anonymous

    better ui than the rezound, call quality, radios, motocast, hdmi mirror, the best build quality ever made, the ui is better than sense. ICS seems to suck lol. Razr forever

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  • Anonymous

    the razr has the best music player. The smart actions it is just awesome.

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  • Anonymous

    What drugs are you taking lol? The razr is the king of all devices right now 🙂 GS2 is the second bad ass device.

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  • Anonymous

    The razor and the galaxy s 2 are the king of 2011 period. This device is a big disappointment.

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    • Dominick DeVito

      Based on what exactly? Is it out yet? Zip your lip troll.

      • Anonymous

        You know why it sucks, stop hiding your feelings lol. Nexus = big failure

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        • Dominick DeVito

          The only thing that sucks about it is that it’s on Verizon

          • Anonymous

            If you want a good device that is not moto go to sprint or tmobile and get the second best device of 2011,the gs2. Stop crying lol

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  • JB

    I now own the rezound,

    screen is fantastic 720p and no resolution distortion at all… none!

    don’t care about beats, but hey bonus.

    UI has a lot of polish, weather animations are wicked. HTC has some great widgets as you know.
     
    Camera is great quality, has setting for “low light” and works great. It also has custom sliders to set: exposure, contrast, saturation, sharpness. You can adjust the iso, has panorama option and you can set “picture review” time to none eliminating any feel of shutter lag. Has burst mode, hdr, and can capture video in slow mo too.

    can take native screenshots like ics just push power and home button.

    unlock screen has four customizable goto apps vs ics with only unlock and cam  

    has build in app killer if you need to off one.

    Sense has a nice feature where it word wraps the text for you on the browser when you zoom in, works in dolphin too.

    I got the extended battery and the cover looks to sill have the wireless charging connectors, makes it a bit fatter though.

    Feels solid if that’s important to you.     

    If Nexus turns a corner and all our worst fears aren’t realized and I really do need to jump back on the nexus wagon… holiday return policy is until Jan15th 35$ restocking fee at worst.

    Go to a store a try one out, the real star of this phone isn’t Beats, it’s the screen and the camera.

     

  • Mneighbo

    Sounds a little disappointing. These are the moments I’m more than happy to keep my Bionic. 

  • Sporttster

    Checked out the Razr tonight. Think I’m getting that. Was waiting for the Nexus but not at 16gb;forget it. Its got a real nice screen. Put it side by side with the GS2 I’m using from T Mobile and it’s right up there with it. Exact same width,tad longer. Obviously thinner. Yep….think I’m jumping ship from the Bion..er,Nexus and going Razr. This phones never coming out,just like Bionic took forever. I need a new phone and not next summer,thanks….

  • Matthew Rosidivito

    How very Apple.

  • Wmsco51

    Honeymoon is over… Thanks for the screwin though

  • Clint

    So I have a question for someone/anyone who can help me out I would be greatful. I bought the rezound as I was tired of my Incredible but want to trade it in for the Galaxy but as I have been playing with my Rezound and tethering with it to my computer I am able to talk and surf the net while tethering using PDA net. I could not do that before with my Incredible but was wondering if the Galaxy would be able to do the same thing as it would be a deal breaker for me because I like to be able to do that now..Let me know what ya think..Thanks

  • Awesome! This is helping me lean towards a decision on which phone to get. HTC Rezound it is!

    Non-removable battery
    No SD card
    Only 16GB
    No USB Mass Storage (LOL – a device that RUNS linux that doesn’t play well with linux. I can’t stop laughing at that fail of a design choice. Samsung and Google hilarious fail)
    Screen is just Too Big. I might need to feel it in my hand to be sure

    • Anonymous

      Battery is removable on the Nexus…

  • Anonymous

    phlpn.es/7x9vmd

  • Anonymous

    phlpn.es/7x9vmd

  • Anonymous

    phlpn.es/7x9vmd

  • Lizz.0

    I will NOT get the galaxy nexus if it does not come with 32gb at $299.  I will get the damn droid razr…

  • vincent scala
  • Anonymous

    tinyurl.ie/7fb

  • Depressed

    Everything about this phone has taken years of my life. From the lack of information, to never-ending specualtion and rumors, to the now ever-declining list of features. I need a Prozac and a few shots.

    • rocketdaddy

      And a class action law suit against Verizon for being so I communicative and causing all the stress with its associated health problems. I hate this phone and I live for the day I can ditch Verizon. OK, not really but….

  • Anonymous

    I honestly think that the 16gb thing is just a mistake. A bunch of people already have the GSM version and it has 32gb, so other that the LTE radio being bigger, why would the memory be downgraded.

    • Anonymous

      It’s going around the web that the 16gb devices were for engineering purposes and the retail version will be 32gb!

  • Anonymous

    So what? <- Nexus apologist

    Lack of USB Mass Storage makes sense after reading the article. As for 16 GB vs. 32 GB vs. expandable, with Google Music I no longer care. Music was the biggest storage hog on my phone 2 months ago. Now I guess it's probably nandroid backups. And, Flash doesn't seem like it will be a long term issue. No problem.

  • Nico

    I purchased a Rezound today.  I am absolutely not ashamed of this one tiny bit.

    • John Pierts2345z

      Rezound Fanboi: and you should not be.

      Nexus Fanboi: No NFC, Low Battery, No ICS, you are toast.

    • partidroid

      Good for you. I purchased a Droid razor at Costco for $289 today, saved me 10 bucks not to mention they have a 90 day return policy.

  • Wilson Cham_1987

    I went to the verizon store to check out the rezound. Seriously tempting.

    I asked the guy: Hey, do you know when the Samsung Galaxy Nexus is coming out?

    He said, Well, we dont have the dates yet for the Galaxy but the Nexus prime is coming out in Jan 2012.

    I quit.

    • Anonymous

      LOL

  • Anonymous

    I’ve started searching for Rezound reviews/specs etc…. a.k.a. Nexus ain’t very hot to me right now. Plus that plasticky back cover is so darn flimsy!.. damn it!

  • John Pierts2345z

    Nexus Fanboy 1: Boy, the forum used to fun, we were supposed to be talking release date of 11/18 and 11/21.

    Nexus Fanboy 2: Now we got nothing, but ICS. The phone is dying in front of our eyes. 🙁

    Rezound Fanboy: Boom, Boom, Beats, Beats, B..e..a.t…s….shit battery d….i…e…d

    Nexus Fanboy: Release dates, we are talking about release dates, not the actual phone, but release dates, release dates.

  • vincent scala

    there is a chance the 16gb could be wrong remeber the costco verizon camparison page and it shows the nexus only as 32gb 

    • Wilson

      yeah, right. The google guy typing the website, screwed up. Keep drinking the kool aid.

  • Kierra

    Most of you guys were the ones trashing the iphone for not having flash. Now its suddenly ok huh

    • It’s only ok if flash is not on the phone YET. If it’s never coming then thats a dfferent story.

    • Anonymous

      The video reviews from the british version show flash running, so idk what the problem is.

    • Cam

      Frankly, I only cared about flash before using the mobile version. Laggy, choppy trash. R.I.P. flash; you will not be missed.

    • Dominick DeVito

      Flash is coming to ICS, relax.

  • Anonymous

    Stop apologizing Nexus fans!

    People saying a 16GB Nexus is no big deal sound like the Moto fanboys who say qHD is as good as 720p or the HTC fanboys who think 4 hours of battery life is OK because you can rom it to get 6 to 7.  Bull$hit, it is a big deal.

    Personally I don’t use a lot of media, however with photos and videos and very limited music and movies I’ve used close to 16 GB  on my DX.  Without a SD card slot 16 GB would be a big negative and I’m a cloud convert.

    Instead of apologizing for such a potential failure just hope it turns out to not be true.  It’s like people are too invested into this phone to admit it could have a shortcoming.

    • Dominick DeVito

      I find the SD cards to slow down Android. Case in point – open the Gallery app and look at photos stored on your SD card. Unload apps to the SD card – performance takes a hit.

      It’s not rocket science. The I/O speeds on the micro SD cards are terrible. Plus now we get more app storage which is always a good thing. With cloud services no ones will really notice.

      Would the 32GB version be “better”? Sure. More for the same price is always better so for that I could never argue with.

      • Anonymous

        Don’t get me wrong if it was true I would still get the phone most likely. Just would be annoying and definitely a negative to me.

  • Jamie

    The ‘no Flash’ support thing kinda blows, but we can get around that.  Where there’s an Android, there’s a way 😉

    With the release of Google Music, and the Android Music store, now I literally have no use for internal storage except for apps and photos.  For me, this is perfect because I can just play everything through Google Music and not have to worry about what music I want to have with me, and not have to clean up my SD card.  It’s also really annoying when I have USB mounted and I get a text, because my phone always reverts to that really annoying default ringing sound that I cannot stand.
    I’m extremely excited about this.  This will be my phone for a long period of time.

  • Tyler

    If its 16GB it better be $200 on contract. It will be a tough decision if it isn’t.

    • Dominick DeVito

      The 16GB might have been solely for testing purposes – there’s still a good chance the 32GB versions make it to consumers after all.

  • Anonymous

    Still lovin my Razr…

  • I use to be excited over this phone (still am but not nearly as much). I was willing to pay full retail since my contract isn’t up for awhile. Now with hopes of a 2nd gen LTE chip for better battery life and what not. I think I will wait the extra time until my contract is up. As for 32GB vs 16GB. Verizon will sell the 32GB at $299 clearly to match the RAZR and Rezound. They will not carry the 16GB version because that would mean it would have to cost less then the ‘standard’ $299 for new LTE phones and the 16GB model would take a nice chunk of sales from the two phones mentioned above. The one thing I feel that needs to happen is that Verizon and manufacture need to get their stuff together test a phone THEN announce it with a set release date and no push backs. As much as I hate to say it, Apple did a solid job at this.

  • Anonymous

    looks like I’ll get the rezound after all. Really wanted the Gnexus, looks like it may be a flop after all.

  • With all that testing verizon does, how do they let so many flops through?? my storm 1 was a pos with TONS of bugs, Droid Fascinate had tons of problems, thunderbolt, bionic etc…   I agree that if a couple weeks means a flawless phone, im okay with… but given verizons track record, Im going to go out on a limb and guess the GNexus will still have many bugs despite all these “delays”

    • The testing excuse is bull i bet. They need to move the other phones first, releasing the Gnex now would not help.

  • Freygrimrod

    Like everyphone samsung touches this thing is crap….

  • FSFer

    Question: If Razr and Rezound bootloaders were unlocked, (or bionic for that matter) would there be this level of interest in this phone?

    • rocketdaddy

      The answer to your razr sharp question is a rezounding NO. I’m tempted by the Rezound now simply because so many HTC phones have been rooted and unlocked.

    • Anonymous

      I think the overwhelming hate for Moto on this site is specifically because they lock their phones down, more than any other reason.

      • Dominick DeVito

        Not to mention their butt fugly UI. They need to sell stock UI phones again.

        • Anonymous

          I think it’s one of the least obnoxious custom UIs, to each his own.

  • Anonymous

    Just because of this I went and checked out the Rezound today. The Razr too. The HTC is really nice. The screen is exceptional. Super fast. The Razr is definitely off my list. I see no reason to wait for the Samsung. ICS might be the only reason, but not anymore.

  • John Pierts2345z

    Fanboy 1: Hell yeah, Nexus is back. 16 GB internal with 16GB SD card slot.

    Fanboy 2: Hell yeah, screw the rezound and razr.

    • Tyler

      Umm, not quite. No SD Card is going to be in the Nexus. Go to the Reddit link and hit Ctrl-F to find where it says  “Micro-SD”. Explains why there isn’t a slot. 

  • joejoe509

    Check this out:

    http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/mobile/mobile-phones/smartphones/GT-I9250TSMBMC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification

    Look at memory down below. Weight, thickness, and battery are still old stats. But this could mean that we will have an SD card slot.

    • Jjjjj

      That is my thought process…that an SD car slot might be coming.

  • I got your 16 gb right here!

    No way will I buy the 16gb version.  And no way will i buy a Razr with a locked bootloader.   So I guess I will just putter along with my OG until one of the quad-core phones comes along on Verizon, which, at this rate won’t happen before July.   Or maybe I’ll just ditch Verizon altogether.  Can you hear me now?

    • theraskell

      They dont care about you or any of us. If they did, this damn phone would be out already.

  • Cam

    About 98% done with VZWs B.S.

  • snppr22

    Really would like to hear from everyone about their thoughts, what is everyone doing now that the Nexus seems to be pushed even further? Vote here – http://twtpoll.com/xe699h

    I’m heading to Costco tomorrow and getting a RAZR. If I like it and the Nexus doesn’t perform well I’ll keep it, if the Nexus matches the hype they have a solid return policy.

    • Dominick DeVito

      This is exactly what Verizon wants you to do

    • No Offense but I did a check and it came back that the photo is Photoshopped. Can someone double check this for me. Just in case I did it wrong.

  • Anthony Armando

    for me this ultimately depends on the final retail price point. if the thing end up going for $300 its no deal, but if they sell it for $200 i would be fine with it.

    for the time being 16gb seems good enough to me. i stream all of my music via google music, and in the event i want to save a few albums for offline use i can spare a few gb. i dont know that apps, will grow so much within the next 2 years that that sort of space would be eaten up.

  • Justin Kos

    *takes huge grain of salt and throws it over shoulder

  • Svonavja

    Well if it is 16gb might as well go for the Razr

    • dodger55fan

      That’s what I’m thinking at the moment … 32 gigs + removable storage is more important to me than 16 gigs and removable battery

      all else being essentially equal (yes GNex has a slightly better camera, screen …Razr better build quality, radios), it comes down to whether or not I want Ice Cream Sandwich now or am willing to wait.  For me, if I’m gonna have a phone for 2 years, I’d rather go with the better phone than the one with the newest OS (my OGD has never run quite as smoothly since getting froyo) …and to me, right now the razr just seems more appealing (don’t hate) if these rumors are true…

    • Anonymous

      I have had my Razr since launch day, was planning on swapping it for the g-Nex when it came out, but not any more. I LOVE this phone. I am getting exceptional battery life >18 hours, great screen, fast, fits in my pocket and you don’t know it’s there, and smart actions / moto cast are great. People who talk down about the Razr don’t know what they are talking about. Sure, it has a locked boot loader, so what? You can still root, over clock, remove bloat ware, and it is upgrading to ICS. It deserves a hard look…

  • Anonymous

    these rumors piss me off, but im not gonna take them (mainly the storage one) seriously. 

    guess ill have to use 4g+dropbox for fast xfers which i am 100% willing to do as i use dropbox alot now anywho.

    • Justin Kos

      until ur batt dies in 3 hrs

      • Anonymous

        A micro usb appears……….. Micro usb uses charge…………. its super effective.

  • Myhouse111111

    I will not buy this phone if it has on 16GB. If this is true, I will be holding out till after the 1st of the year when the Quads arrive.

    • Bionic

      and what if those quads only have 16GB ?

  • Bionic

    LOL, this phone looks worse and worse.  Honestly, the only thing that would attract me to this phone if I was in the market for one would be the fact that it will have ICS and minimal bloat, thats all. 

    Loving my non-buggy bionic ( yes im aware that some bionics have bugs but mine does not)

  • Anonymous

    if the verizon nexus only comes in 16GB, im buying a rezound. i need 32GB.

  • 16gb is enough for me but it will probably be the 32gb version anyways. I don’t care for flash. I am sure someone will figure out something with USB Mass Storage.
     

  • Bluh5d

    All I can say is I’m enjoying my razr as I type this message

  • nexus on the brain

    SO, I have been completely obsessed over this phone for the past few months now, its been about the only thing on my mind.  After reading this, if it ends up being true, I am done.  Not with Nexus, but I will wait and when its released, jump to AT&T or Sprint (both building out their LTE networks) from Big Red.  This is really terrible and humbling news to me.  I am confused, stunned and shocked.  If Verizon does this they can stick it up their a$%

    • nexus on the brain

      And I am hopeful that Google leaves Verizon behind.  Right now they have the best LTE network, but one day soon, the other carriers will be just as robust in their LTE coverage. Verizon, NO MORE NEXUS FOR YOU!

    • Bionic

      What in the holy fuckk are you talking about?  You act like its Verizon’s fault that the phone does not support flash.

      But hey have fun on your shittyy ATT network that drops calls and sucks in rural settings.  It will be 2030 before ATT has an LTE network anywhere close to Verizon’s.  

      • nexus on the brain

        16GB offering only = Verizon
        16GB at $299 = Verizon
        Clusterfuck release = Verizon
        I am fortunate enough to be in a large market and do most of my traveling to large markets too, so if LTE isn’t offered in Paris, TX by AT&T or Sprint until 2030, i personally don’t care

        • Bionic

          LOL and att does such a better job releasing phones? I think not. There is a reason Verizon is number one rated cell company.

          • nexus on the brain

            Well, if this is how a “number one” company releases a phone, I’d rather have number 2 or 3.  Can’t get any worse than this, can it (you a Bionic owner?)… taking forever, throwing in bloat apps on a Nexus device, giving customers the smaller storage product…how much worse could ATT or Sprint f-this up than “Number One Rated” has?

  • Djstar2k2

    wow i still want this phone and will buy but im disappointed in the mass storage part do to the fact it it sucks on my acer tab.  i just dont get this on an android phone or android in general.  the driver for the acer honeycomb tab is just bad and since i dont run an authentic vers of windows it half ass works but no big deal since i use my tab only at home.  the mass storage is a big part of i how i organize pics on my og droid so i hope uncle googs can address this in a reasonable fashion.  but in all realness in my opinion whats gonna trump the g-nex?  we should all know by now that this phone will be updated regularly and run ics officially longer than anything in the future. and if you really believe that htc,or mr moto is gonna get ics right anytime soon looking at their froyo and gingerbread updates right thats silly     

  • Anonymous

    Google is clearly not interested in supporting old tech. This isn’t Microsoft here, which I find refreshing.  Some of these decisions may be hard to swallow, but it is the future.  Cloud storage over USB, HTML5 over flash, this is a phone perhaps a little ahead of its time. That being said, I cannot wait to get my hands on this device.

  • If it is only 16 GB in the U.S. I will pass on the Nexus and get the RazR.

    • SKAV3NG3R

      why the Razr over the Rezound?

      • HTC
        -lousy updates
        -craptastical batteries
        -better UI of the three

        Moto
        -Build Quality
        -Radios
        -Bigger battery
        -shittiest UI of the three

        Which one would you pick?

        • Bionic

          does UI matter when you can just use GoLauncher?  Thats what i do.  Motorola rules

          • Justin Kos

            does go launcher matter when you can flash the new CM9 over it all?

          • Guest

            ..

        • I disagree I think the UI is a matter of Opinion. I like both but I like the new Motorola Version better. Beats audio is a gimmick in my opinion.

      • HTC always has Battery life Issues. I will never buy one.

      • Brandon Sobotta

        its funny how some people just hate Moto, why not the RAZR over the Rezound? I love motoblur, I love sense, but I guess its all preference.

      • Anonymous

        Why not?

  • Spdracr

    Yeah, Verizon did a great job testing the Blackberry Storm! They don’t care, all they want is you locked in a contract.

  • SKAV3NG3R

    not that it matter but i am on the phone with a VZW store manager now…i almost got the Rezound today but due to the worst salesmanship ever i left without it. it was so bad i had to call them and file a complaint.

    the VZW store manager said, it may be a blessing in disguised. i asked why. he said,”I am all but sure the google nexus will be out next week…still on hold…he is digging for me now…

    if it amounts to anything ill let you all know.. 

    • SKAV3NG3R

      i just got off of the phone with the VZW store manager…you want the GREAT news? sorry, i dont have it. what he did say to me, for any of you still reading(if any of you even did :p) was that in his working for VZW for over 8yrs he is more then sure it will in fact be out this month. he went on to say, how he was over 97% sure that it would be released by black Fri at the latest.

      we will see*sry for poor grammar . 

      • Anonymous

        When I stopped in a Vz store to check out the Razr, the rep pretty much said the same thing. They’re being giving a release date for this month.

      • Anonymous

        I talked to a manager today as well. I was looking at the rezound. I was almost sold, because of all the non-communication, etc.with the nexus. He proceeded to tell me to hold on. He told me how cool the nexus will be etc. I told him my frustrations. he said not to worry. he took my name and phone number and said he will call me as soon as there is some information about the release. He proceeded to wink and say that I will get a call soon. he either knows something, or was hitting on me… lol. He told my wife the same thing. when they were talking as i was drooling over the rezound… so hopefully soon people!!

        • Brandon Sobotta

          I have to say, all three phones have their ups and downs. I would have a hard time choosing.

  • JackBlack

    I’m looking back over the reviews online for the Rezound, and it’s starting to look very enticing.
    Just need the 1800ma battery, and all I’ll be missing is the nfc chip… meh whatever 

  • Fd2blk78

    People who post “u mad bro” are probably the same people that post facebook pictures of themselves planking…

    over/under on how many i get for this post?

    • Anonymous

      good job, your comment has zero relevance to this article. 

    • Brandon Sobotta

      U mad bro?

      • Guest

        you a dick bro??..

  • Anonymous

    No big deal . I never used more than Maybe 9-10gb on Any phone I’ve ever had. and now with clouds you shouldn’t go over 16gb. I hope audio playback is on par with apple, could be a deal breaker for me.

  • Fd2blk78

    So the bionic isn’t so bad after all is it? Mine is awesome and i love it.

    • Bionic

      yup me too dude.  

      • Brandon Sobotta

        I am going to be honest, between I might pick the Bionic over the RAZR, in all reality it is TOO thin for me.

    • Kg2128

      Well atleast the Bionic Exists and is available. All these potentially bad things about the Nexus doesn’t magically fix the Bionics flaws though. And if you like the Bionic already then I’m sure your opinion of it is the same regardless of the Nexus.

      • Anonymous

        The Bionic doesn’t have any flaws.  Sure, if the pentile screen is that distracting for you than you should probably avoid it but it’s otherwise a great device.

        • Guest

          ..

          • Anonymous

            trololololo little boy

    • Guest

      ..

  • Earleepa

    I like flash. I wish that it would be compatible with this phone but its not and that’s ok. The dealbreaker for me is if it only comes in the 16GB version. If this is true then I’ll probably have my first htc phone.

  • Anonymous

    Ok, So the Tab doesnt have USB storage either, yet I an hook it up to a computer and still transfer stufff and all that… So who cares???

  • So pretty much the phone I’ve been looking forward to for a year is turning into a bust? fml

  • Narbz

    this is turning out to be the Bionic all over again, all this wait & in the end we will have a crappy phone with with super high price tag .  

    • Anonymous

      atleast it will still be future proof.

      • Bionic

        true enough

  • Rw-1

    You guys hear one thing and off we go …

    So it isn’t USB Mass Storage… Not a killer if you go thru this part of the thread on reddit:

    [+]Greyhaven7Droid, Cyanogenmod 7.0.0-RC4 19 points20 points21 points 1 day ago (12 children)[–]Greyhaven7So… from a user standpoint, it’s the same? You connect the USB cord, and drag+drop files. Only difference is that you don’t need to let your PC commandeer the whole storage device (previously SD card) and leave it temporarily unavailable to the phone?
    [+]thoomfishiPhone 3GS -> Galaxy Nexus 13 points14 points15 points 1 day ago (7 children)
    [–]thoomfishi
    Correct, assuming your PC supports MTP. Windows Vista/7 support it out of the box. XP/Linux/Mac OS require additional software.
    [+]MunkiiHTC Desire, Stock 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago (5 children)
    [–]Munkii
    Does MTP support any file type? IE. Can I transfer non media files like I can with my current Android?
    [+]FuryhunterNexus S 4G, Stock, Sprint 12 points13 points14 points 1 day ago (4 children)
    [–]Furyhunter
    MTP allows the transfer of any data, but the way the data is stored is left up to the receiving device instead of the sending device. Most devices have an “everything else” folder for any miscellaneous data.This makes things like music and photo transfer significantly more streamlined and extensible, both of which have special standards to allow for easy synchronization.
    [+]burntsushiOG Droid, GPA17 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago (3 children)
    [+]keeperofdakeys 7 points8 points9 points 1 day ago (0 children)[–]keeperofdakeys Your data is still stored in folders, your device just presents a ‘virtual’ filesystem to the connecting computer.so in other words, you still can hook it up and use the storage, it’s just different than what you were used to.But I totally agree that it had better be 32Gb, even at that it is too much $$$, my plan is on awaiting the first $$$ drop after release.

  • Im hearing $499 for 16gig?

  • rrosotho

    “yawning” Its another drama phone and it seems like Google is rushing out ICS just like they did with Honeycomb on the Xoom. It maybe better to wait until Google gets all the software kinks out.

    • Anonymous

      I haven’t seen ANY rushing. The announcement was back in October and it was in later versions back then!

      • rrosotho

        No Flash Support and No USB Mass Storage Support???  I was just saying ICS is brand new and maybe its good for a December release to get all the kinks out.. And I thought Honeycomb was released early because the Xoom didnt have micro SD support off the bat.

        • Anonymous

          gotcha… I don’t know. I am excited for this phone, but I am getting tired of worrying about it. The rezound was awesome, but hopefully gnex will blow me away. who knows… VZW has my money any way ya look at it…

          • rrosotho

            I understand that my contract just ran out and ive been waiting for a phone like this so i can extend my contract. It will be the phone to get when it releases!

  • Earleepa

    Ill wait till this phone is released and if this current round of rumors is true I’ll backtrack and go with the rezound as much as I hate to.

  • Karma

    Karma is a bitch. You can thank all the people jumping in on all post that didn’t have anything to do with the Nexus. You can also thank all the Nexus fanboys who are worse than the crapple fanboys. Always remember Karma.

    That is all.

  • Bobby

    F this IM GETTING THE Samsung galaxy 2

  • Yes, Google should have asked HTC for a decent Nexus experience..

    • Bionic

      HTC fuckingg sucks

  • Irrational Man

    EVERYONE PANIC AND THROW POO BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE!

  • if i had to guess, id say that google put the specs up on the landing page for the GSM version of the nexus. i think once verizon releases the LTE version, google will update the landing page to show 32 gb

    • Karma

      Except for the fact that it states LTE in the specs.

  • Syracuse_guy2000

    Question: Heard that Razr & Rezound have 8MP camera and Nexus has only 5MP?

    Nexus Fanboys:  5MP > 8 MP. Period. “MP does not matter”

    Question: Heard that Razr & Rezound have 32GB and Nexus has only 16GB?

    Nexus Fanboys: 16GB > 32 GB. Period. “Use Cloud”

    Question: Heard that Razr & Rezound use Flash and Nexus cannot?

    Nexus Fanboys: No Flash better than Flash. Period. iphone has no Flash.

    Question: Heard that Razr & Rezound will be $299 and Nexus will be $299 with 16GB.

    Nexus Fanboys: Nexus 299 for 16GB is 199 in our world. Period. 100 is peanuts.

    Question: Heard that Razr & Rezound are in the market and Nexus still does not have a release date.

    Nexus Fanboys: Slow crying. But, but, Release dates does not matter. It is the quality that matters.

    Question: Heard that…

    Nexus Fanboys: Stop it. Stop it. Nexus has NFC which I will never use. I can beam it. It has ICS. I will eat it all day.

    • Syracuse_guy2000

      Call to VZW: Do you know when the Samsung Galaxy Nexus will be released?

      Operator: Samsung Galaxy Netflix

      Hung up the phone.

      • joejoe509

        Haha. Awesome. Best post of the day.

      • Kierra

        HHHHHHHHHAAAAA

    • Pretty much this, the more I hear about the GNex the more I like the fact that I picked up the Rezound already and probably wont be switching it for the Gnex.

    • Anonymous

      I’m sorry this made me lol

    • Anonymous

      its true, megapixels don’t matter idiot. megapixels don’t determine the quality of the image, only the size of it.

      • Syracuse_guy2000

        That’s what I meant, fanboy idiot. Megapixels dont matter. Cant you read it?

        • Actually, when you get to the resolutions their cameras use the quality of the optics tends to be more significant.

    • Anonymous

      Hey meathead. That’s a pretty good conversation you’re carrying on with yourself. Or are you actually trying to say something meaningful? Just asking……………

  • geno villafano

    The Nexus is beginning to seem a bit like an attractive hooker: It looked great on the street but now that she’s in my car I’m starting to have doubts…do I really want to take her home? D:

    • geno villafano

      Not…
      …that I go about my day picking up hookers…

    • Granted

      And you start to remember that you didn’t actually buy any fish that is sitting with groceries in the backseat.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t see anything wrong with the bezel on the Nexus, RAZR, or Rezound. I don’t think it’s wasted space at all, especially compared to how much space is wasted on the iPhone.

    • hatethanet

      Bezel on the sides of the RAZR is excessive imo.

    • Wasted space on an Iphone?  Oh, you mean everything that isn’t the screen.

  • hatethanet

    The Verizon and Vodafone “thorough testing” excuse is BS imo. Verizon has released buggy software numerous times. It’s not like they have a track-record for being sticklers for near-flawless software releases lol.

  • Nosmop

    Deal breaker for me…still owning a Nexus One with 32Gb SD! Didn’t upgrade to Nexus S because of its lack of SD support. I decided to wait for the Galaxy Nexus 32Gb, forgiving Samsung and Google for the SD absence. And here again the drama…no 32Gb at all, not in US, not in Europe (Google UK changed their Nexus page from 16Gb/32Gb to the simple 16Gb).Thank you Google but…no thanks…for a couple of reasons:
    1) This decision is a Google marketing mistake…iPhone 4S potential owners have 16/64Gb choice, we are left with 16Gb only choice!!
    2) This decision is a Samsung marketing mistake…Nexus potential owners are tech nerds, we know what we want and what we need, we like numbers, big numbers…5Mp camera instead of 8Mb and now 16Gb of internal memory….come on Samsung, are you joking???
    Google should have asked HTC for a decent Nexus experience..Samsung is too stingy for my taste.

  • Anonymous

    All I can say is lolololololol.  I’m getting some popcorn.

  • Anonymous

    Touchpad simulates an SD card without an actual one. How is that possible?

  • hatethanet

    I doesn’t look like the 16GB storage is a Verizon issue considering even the HSPA+ version in the UK had the 32 GB option removed. I wonder why Samsung did this?

  • Naergoth

    verizon REALLY screwed this one up badly. Google, MAN the F up and tell verizon this is a nexus phone, NOT a bloatware phone. Flippn wussies. Guess it’s time to wait until CES and see other phones coming out on AT&T. I’m done with verizon, and close to being done with the wussies google.

  • John Davids

    Lots of QQing going on in this post. QQing based on *rumors*. Its going to get Flash one way or another. And even if it didn’t, Flash is dead in the water. There will be zero phones running Flash in 12 months or less.

    As for the 16GB vs 32GB, it is 100% speculation at this point. But even if every single negative point of this post is true, its still going to be the best Android smartphone to launch to-date. Peroid.

    But no, please cry babies, don’t buy this phone and go get the Rezound. Enjoy Gingerbread until July 2012.

    • I take this Tweet by Black_Man_X as proof that the 32GB version IS coming: “As for the storage question.. would vzw release a cheaper less mem model and still charge the same amount? Does that answer your question?”

    • Kierra

      Lol I love it when people say Period when they are being stern

  • Anonymous

    If this turns out to be true I’m glad I got the Rezound.

  • DontKnowMe

    If look at the bottom of the tech spec page and change your location to U.K. it only shows 16GB of storage too. But it shows HSPA+ as the network type

  • Nsbjj

    I am on my way to Costco right now to get my new RAZR phone,Screen Protector, Case, Vehicle Charger,
    HDMI Cable, High Definition Desktop Dock and Portable Battery Charger all for $289.00

    I hope all of you still waiting on the Nexus get it before Christmas.

  • FSFer

    “On Linux and Mac it’s sadly not as easy,”
    From an XDA post about using MTP on the transformer on Ubuntu linux

     “Here’s how to get your Transformer to show up in Ubuntu for example. This includes stuff you will have setup but this will help others too.$ sudo apt-get install mtpfs$ sudo mkdir /media/transformer$ sudo chmod 775 /media/transformer$ sudo mtpfs -o allow_other /media/transformerYou should now be able to see the device under /media/transformerTo remove the device type:$ sudo umount mtpfsYou may also need add a rule for the device to see it in Ubuntu:$ sudo vi /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rulesAdd this line to the 51-android.rules file:SUBSYSTEMS==”usb”, ATTRS{idVendor}==”0b05″, ATTRS{idProduct}==”4e0f”, MODE=”0666″, OWNER=”” #Asus TransformerSave the file, then chmod to all read:$ sudo chmod a+r /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules”You must be f-in kidding me. I mean I use linux, it’s part of why I use android and not iOS, and I can do this, but it’s not exactly user friendly to mount from command line every time I want to transfer files.Where the hell is Tizen? Why did they have to kill Meego (rhetorical question)? Makes me want to stick something in my eye.

    • Brandon

      just write a shell script, then its no big deal

      • FSFer

        Shouldn’t have to.
        And what about my wife, father, etc who use Linux mint and have no technical knowledge. They just want to plug in their phone and have it work. They will blame Linux and want to go back to Windows.

        • Anon

          If they are not technical then why do you have them on Linux…

          • FSFer

            Freedom, man. Ever heard of Stallman?
            Plus there’s nothing more stable and secure. My fathers install has been running withouta hitch or even reboot for over a year.

            The point is google is taking an open source kernel and bastardizing it into a locked proprietary mess. Honeycomb? That had to be illegal.

            The only reason I want this phone is the unlocked bootloader. It’s MY goddamn phone. Let me do what I want with it.
            Enough before rant becomes even less comprehensible.

  • According to reports, sideloading the Adobe Flash APK doesn’t currently work on the G-Nex for the few that have tested it.

  • Anthony Vella

    Example of Business:

    Reporter: How can we make an awesome phone that’s cheap to make with decent parts that we can sell at $299?

    CEO: Easy, use some plastic, buy some 16 GB flash drives. 

    Reporter: What about 32 GB instead? 

    CEO: Of course, but only in Q1 2012 so we sell all of our other devices and make more money! 

    Reporter: Your a greedy money man.

    CEO: Alright fine, do you want a job?

    Reporter: Yes, that would be awesome

    CEO: Too bad, just outsourced the development team to India to save money in the company so more goes to me.

    Reporter: What an American…

  • Satain

    .hope you all like the g-nex from hell bwahaha!

  • I don’t care about any of these things.  16GB is TONS of space for a freaking phone, I use the cloud for everything. Who cares about flash (it needs to die anyway), and I use Windows 7, so I don’t need UMS, MTP is fine for me.  Give me the Nexus!!!!!!!!!!

  • The no USB mass storage blows but I get it… the only 16G I just DON’T GET IT! wtf? well I guess I can store all my music and pics online right? is that why??? hmm I still getting the freaging phone but every little bit of info that’s been coming out lately is just disappointing. Btw YES I can live w/o flash hahahaha who cares anyways, is nice to have but I’m not gonna die b/c is not supported.

    • Anthony Vella

      Have fun with music and pics online because if your not within 4G, basically never within it, you will be listening to very low end audio.

      • I live in an area with pretty decent coverage, except the train route I take and the gym that I go to, I’d like to be able to actually enjoy my vast music collection. 

        #poll Now that the Nexus has been ‘delayed’ again will you be waiting for its release? http://twtpoll.com/xe699h 

  • cody

    here’s something to suck on. If you’re mad at Verizon…. don’t use Verizon…. if you’re mad that the Nexus isn’t what you thought it would be….. don’t buy it…. don’t like google? don’t use it’s products.

    want to change it? then become the CEO of Verizon, Google, etc…… 
    no body has a gun to your head telling you, YOU HAVE TO USE THIS! YOU HAVE TO BUY THAT!
    so until YOU do something about it, stop crying.
    start your own provider… make your own cell phone.

    “it’s too expensive…. there’s no flash?! wtf?! small amount of memory, blah blah blah” well it’s a simple concept to grasp you idiots.

    don’t buy the product.

    • Anthony Vella

      Learn to use proper grammar you emotional 11 year old, you mad because your parents are still on Virgin Mobile?

      • cody

        crying again I see…. write complete sentences before you judge someone’s grammar.

        • Anthony Vella

          Learn to use the Cap Lock key, and learn to use an apostrophe correctly, shouldn’t you be at day care now?

          • cody

            good comeback.

            “when you realize you’re wrong and worthless, become a grammar nazi”

          • Guest

            you a dick bro?

      • Anonymous

        Looks like all the other people here are the emotional 11 year olds bitching and moaning about a phone, actually.

    • There is so much fractured logic and bad reasoning your post… Over it.

      • cody

        why? because you’re probably one of the people I’m talking about…. oh ok. So what are you going to do about it then? Sit around and gripe and whine because things aren’t going your way? ok….. see how long that works.

        • Dude, this is an enthusiast site.  You know, for phone enthusiasts.  Worse, this is a comment section for enthusiasts.  If an enthusiast is displeased who else is going to talk about it besides another enthusiast. And yes, starting your own multi-billion dollar mega-corporation communications firm is realistic.  We’re not talking mouse traps here.  And for many of us Cricket doesn’t work out here like it does for you.  We can only use Verizon because they’re the only ones who make it this far out.  Am I unhappy about how the Nexus rumors are progressing?  You bet.  But who’s making the mistake, me commiserating with other enthusiasts or you, bad mouthing disgruntled enthusiasts.  Troll.

    • Guest

      you a dick bro?

  • Anthony Vella

    I love how the Galaxy S II is still more powerful and cleaner than every phone released since it was released, Galaxy Nexus has that nice, huge as hell roll with crappy plastic I can buy at my local crafting store. USE ALUMINIUM ALREADY.

  • Anonymous

    There is no way I am buying this phone with only a 16 GB flash memory (around 13 GB of available space). 

    Google doesn’t yet have an itunes like interface to sync phones and stuff.. so I can’t imagine it not having usb access.

    • Anthony Vella

      Exactly, I never get good coverage and if Google uses this whole “Cloud” storage for everything, good luck on 3G because its doesn’t work. You need 4G to use any of the Cloud features efficiently and 4G doesn’t even work on my Droid Charge.

      • B B

        Cloud is a scam

  • SKAV3NG3R

    remember just a little while ago we saw this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM9RO-GAKjE and could  do nothing but
    😀

  • Anonymous

    I saw a funny post somewhere else, but what if Google changed the specs on their site, knowing it would cause this ridiculous outcry for information.  Basically forcing Verizon to calm everyone down with an official announcement of specs/release date.  That would be awesome, and I’m sure Google has to be somewhat pissed that Verizon is keeping such a tight lid on this thing.

    • Anthony Vella

      Verizon is hated by a lot of companies for keeping such strict timing on release dates, companies want them to be public so people can plan when and how they will purchase them, but little ol’e Verizon just likes to screw people over as their CEO gets more and more money every day.

    • That is pretty creative, and I would think that Google would be annoyed that there much hyped flagship device is delayed. And after having been through the 534,965,785 Gingerbread builds that were rejected by Verizon and find all of them less buggy than the final official OTA I just wouldnt be surprised by this. I dont usually buy into conspiracies, but at this point I am willing to give any idea some credence after seeing how Verizon has handled other devices.

      Just wondering, how come Google couldnt put VZW over their knee the way Apple did? I dont see Apple ever putting up with this, assuming this is on the VZW end?

      #poll Now that the Nexus has been ‘delayed’ again will you be waiting for its release? http://twtpoll.com/xe699h 

      • Anonymous

        It can not be delayed if a release date has never been announced.

  • Anthony Vella

    16G is the worst idea ever. The whole idea of “Cloud Storage” is terrible, my phone loses data all the time and without data, I am left alone in the dark at that point. The fact is that Verizon screws their customers more than making their phone experience awesome. The phone has a huge chunk on the bottom like the crappy Charge and humiliates the Nexus brand. Google should just open their own wireless service, I would even pay the $350 early termination fee. Also, if this phone is $299, I am going to honestly start going nuts because if apple sells a phone with 16GB storage at $199 with metal on the outside, I better be getting a phone for $199, if not, you know Verizon is a greedy bastard that’s stealing more and more money from you. Tiered data, you screwed 85% of customers. Also, Verizon has a discounted data plan, 35 MB for $20/m. You use 35MB in 1 minute of a SINGLE youtube video. American companies are terrible, Google Wireless needs to happen NOW.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t think Google Wireless is going to be any different. The biggest evidence for that is the pathetic cheerleading that Google is offering to Verizon to take it own sweet time to release the Gnex. 

      My confidence in Google has taken a dip ever since they’ve distanced themselves from the actual launch of their flagship device in the US.

      • Anthony Vella

        If Google would act out like Steve Jobs did to AT&T, they Galaxy Nexus would have been a awesome phone. Steve told AT&T that Apple would not take any crap from them, if they did, they would leave, and now the iPhone has props over Android on Verizon and its screwing Android. Google Wireless would support PURE Google design as well as actual updates to the phones, I have gotten my 6th Droid Charge in 2 months and every single one loses data every 10 minutes and they say its just they way I hold the phone. So pathetic.

    • I know most people will think I am nuts for this one, but I have often wondered why big tech companies such as Apple, Google, Facebook, etc (some combination of the bunch) dont team up and just take out the big 3/4.  Imagine if Google + Apple + Facebook teamed up and created a network that offered iPhones + Android phones and it was the only network that carried either. Toss in Facebook offering an app and mobile optimized site for only these platforms and I imagine they could charge what they please. And I would like to think that Apple, which values its reputation for service and Google, which has been trying to create an advanced open source platform would make for an at least equally trust worthy provider. 

      Now I know this is never going to happen, but once upon a time Google seemed to be laying the ground work for something like this, and there are several companies that have the following and the capital to come together and create this. #poll Now that the Nexus has been ‘delayed’ again will you be waiting for its release? http://twtpoll.com/xe699h 

      • Tesseract 3

        With Amazon involved, I think something like that could be a real possibility. 

      • Anonymous

        Media companies which Google and Apple could be considered would have a hell of a time trying to get the government to allow them to act as providers too. Look at all the bullshit Time Warner had when it purchased AOL. Their main reason for buying AOL was not allowed by the government.

  • Ok, seriously.  I’m just about out of patience.  I’m gonna wait past Thanksgiving, get my first and probably only BlackFriday ever out of the way and if by Monday I haven’t heard anything useful… I’m gettin’ a Razr, which sucks because I really want a better camera than the razr has.  MP are not the end all be all of cameras either btw.

    • Rw-1

      Then keep waiting, see the DL post on another Razr variant that has a larger camera, etc. . .

  • SKAV3NG3R

    these guys must have bumped there head.
     DEV phone or not 16 is out of the question! it goes like this i wait for the GN to drop…im disappointed. i am now thinking i should have gotten the Rezound  when it came out but a Mo will have now passed and the new late and great will be out SMH.
    im beginning to remember the post from a Mo ago, the nest best thing is always around the corner…HUF* 

  • Kierra

    Lol, you guys(we) see google in a way some people do not . I know its hard to fathom but come closer to the light. For most most people it aint that serious. 

  • Anonymous

    If you are seriously considering NOT buying the Nexus because 

    a> How messed up the launching has been and you are simply too frustrated with Verizon and Google.
    b> The more time passes you think this device is probably not all what it was hyped to be (bionic memory is still fresh and still hurts)…. & 
    c> 16 GB only option is simply too little for you to even consider (I’m sure the usb access can be made work thru hacking).. 

    Then please hit the Like button below.

    • I really like NFC, and I really think Google will run with it, which is why when it comes out I will switch to the Nexus, unless it turns out to be as much of a cluster f*ck as the Thunderbolt. 

      • I hope they make more of it than GTV, G+, Wave, etc… They have lots of great ideas that ultimately get used somehow but never quite as compelling as they should be.  They do need to focus more,  That’s the only thing I like about Apple, they fixate on wabi sabi like perfection.

        • I imagine it will be a feature they focus on. There is a lot of potential and having seen how nice it is (my girlfriend uses Citi and they sent out phone ‘stickers’, it sticks to outside of her Incredible’s battery door and fits nicely under her case) I imagine they could go far with it. And I think beam and Wallet are just the tip of the iceberg. 

          #poll Now that the Nexus has been ‘delayed’ again will you be waiting for its release? http://twtpoll.com/xe699h 

  • Gilb321

    I don’t trust this post about nexus only at 16gb, the verge reported that the US version will be 32gb and that they had talked to matias, who was already on the show.

  • Kidheated

    At this point they might as well fix everything wrong with the phone and re-release it sometime in the future. Upgrade the camera to 8mp or even 12mp, use a 1.5g dual -core processor instead, make the storage hold 48g and make the body plastic feel/be stronger. If the software were flawless on top of those specs, that would be worth waiting for.

  • This phone, thats suppose to be the end all be all is sure coming up short in a few areas …. Why Google ??? 
    Why not make this the best phone possible …. Too late now …

  • Here is a link to my original tweet, please retweet, I’d love to see what people think and see if we cant fill the poll up today. 

    https://twitter.com/#!/samthomas86/status/137973776192245760

    Now that the Nexus has been ‘delayed’ again will you be waiting for its release? http://twtpoll.com/xe699h [email protected]:twitter 

  • Anonymous

    Maybe verizon realizes that release a brand spanking new android phone with no crapware and the latest version of android with only 16GBs on board for only $200 would permanently destroy i*hone, rezound, and razr sales? Maybe thats the real reason for the delay?

    I could see many “average” customers going to the store and picking a GNex up over all the other phone because of this.

  • Stephen

    If you ask me, it sounds like Verizon is sabotaging the release of the g-nex.  They don’t like the idea of a huge release of a phone that they don’t really have control of after it’s released.  Therefore if they make what should be an amazing device just seem ok, then perhaps not as many will throw down for it.

    • Kierra

      Why would they sell it only to sabotage it? You people are a paranoid bunch.

    • Rw-1

      They are, but only because they want to milk out what they can get for the Bionic and the Razr …

      When some AH at VZ finally justifies those sales, then they will gear up for the Nexus, with the D4 in the wings.

      Greed, pure and simple. And the thing about Vodaphone? I say it ismply that they definately won’t release it until tested BECAUSE people there PAY FULL PRICE for the units, not locked into subsidy “You bought it and are past a return period, suffer sucker” contracts. More to lose at launch if the things don’t work well.

      Damn shame we couldn’t get everyone out there to just not buy a phone type, control the lemmings.

      It’s a dream, but could you just see a launch and no one came to the party at all?

  • Check out my Twtpoll, another reader suggested we need a new poll so here it is, click the link to vote.

    #poll Now that the Nexus has been ‘delayed’ again will you be waiting for its release? http://twtpoll.com/xe699h

  • Just enable USB Debugging under the settings. All this misinformation and rumors are getting out of control. http://www.technipages.com/galaxy-nexus-enable-usb-debugging.html

  • Penisaur

    Flash support was just confirmed for the Nexus- it just hasn’t been released for ICS yet.

    http://androidcommunity.com/galaxy-nexus-does-not-have-adobe-flash-nor-can-it-be-downloaded-20111118/

    Look at the updates

  • Typo

    My OG replacement is still a tight race between Nexus, Rezound, Droid4…Until the Nexus & Droid4 release and the true specs are reviewed, it will remain a tight race between the three…

  • joejoe509

    The Galaxy Nexus better come quick. The hype has definitely peaked and we’re coming down from the high. Even the Android website bloggers are tired of writing about it and the endless rumors. They know it and we can feel it in your writing. You’re sick of this phone and you don’t even own it yet.

    • #poll Now that the Nexus has been ‘delayed’ again will you be waiting for its release? http://twtpoll.com/xe699h

      • SKAV3NG3R

        should have gotten the rezound as a sub. for the last year all everyone did was bitch about MOTO and the first sub the get, YUP you guessed it…MOTO….HUFF*…people are odd…but to each, you know.

  • Anonymous

    Verizon is certainly finding new ways to piss me off.  If a lot of these rumors are true, I may hop the Nexus boat afterall.

  • Pawkun14

    Verizon is slowly killing my dream phone. Why!?

  • joejoe509

    We need a new poll. I bet the Galaxy Nexus is losing public favoritism by the day… Let’s get a new poll and see how many Nexus faithful are still getting the Nexus over the other two.

  • BS

    Ridiculous. Talk about just blowing a great opportunity with this bungled launch. Verizon is really going to put up a non-expandable 16gb Nexus against the RAZR, Rezound, and iPhone 4s at 32 gb each? I understand the Nexus has it’s own selling points, but for most ordinary folks that’s going to be a big difference maker. If it ever actually comes out, that is. 

  • KevinC

    The UK site shows 16 GB also

    • joejoe509

      Ha! It does! And beneath that it says “Up to available memory”. Whatever that means.
      But… the Euro version never said they would have 32GB right? It’s only been the US that has 32GB.

  • JoeInMo

    I can’t say for sure what Verizon will sell, but I’ve personally seen 2 Galaxy Nexus phones and both had 32GB memory.  Keep in mind that it’s SHARED memory unlike most other phones.  If it only came with 16GB you’d only have about 12GB to use for storage.  Not good.

  • Anonymous

    If 16 gb only is confirmed, I will go get the HTC Rezound without hesitation……I’m kind of over the Nexus anyways, seems to be way too overhyped.

    • SKAV3NG3R

      i am all but with you on your post.

  • The Nexus S had 16gb, and that was released last year, Google and Samsung better get their shit together on this

  • Trasil

    I bet that Woz got a 32gig version

  • I’m with some of the other posters on this site. Verizon has commited it’s self to certain number of Razr’s and Rezounds in their orders. They need to see a target amount of these sold before the release of the Gnex, hence the delay. Articles like these help in that regard. The impatient or impules buyer will eat this stuff up.

  • showtime

    I heard the Nexus will launch at $199 with 16GB. Of course, I heard this from my wallet who is usually wrong about these things.

    • I wish it would. I have little use for 32GB of storage, what with Google Music, Picasaweb/instant upload, most of my photos being on Facebook already, $5/year that I’ve already paid for for 20GB of storage on Google docs, the HUGE 1TB hard drive on my laptop that I keep most of my videos on, Netflix, YouTube, etc. All my content is in the cloud, streamable over Wi-Fi or 4G. Why do we need 32GB storage? Make this thing 16GB and $199 on contract – it’ll undercut but also outsell all other 4G phones without effort (on Verizon at least).

      My assumption is, however, Verizon/Samsung will pony up the extra $20 or $30 or whatever it costs to double the storage to 32GB so they can charge a ridiculous $100 premium on top of what a 16GB model will go for, claiming “4G and 32GB storage” justify the price.

      • Kierra

        OHHHHHH you’re just a Nexus troll. 
        You fooled me at first though lol 

        • No, I’m just a poor graduate student trying to get by but also have a few things I enjoy along the way (like new Android tablets/phones). If the phone does launch at $299, I’ll at least get it at $269 (employee pricing for 4G phones). That’s not as bad…

          Regardless, I honestly believe we’ll see the 32GB version. And I won’t complain. But I would also welcome a $100 discount for 50% reduced storage – storage I’ll likely never make full use of, or would only use because I could, NOT because I had to use it. But either is fine by me.
          I am not a troll; if you think that, you’re pretty mistaken. I loathe both Apple products and people who perpetuate elitist/exclusive ideas about the world. I think the Nexus would be a more publicly-accessible device, or easier to acquire by more people, if priced at $199. I see why Google went with integrated storage, however, and why Samsung, as the manufacturer, chose to withhold from adding an SD card slot. It’s a move by Google, first, to reduce problems related to cache/memory issues and to “future-proof” their OS/devices – but it’s also a brilliant move by them to highly encourage people to make use of their various (and honestly very good) cloud services like Picasaweb, Google Music, etc.

          As for the 32GB storage on the Galaxy Nexus for Verizon, I think it’s Verizon’s greedy way of trying to justify the $300 price tag they are likely to charge for their Nexus. Again, Verizon is insanely greedy.Things are done deliberately by Google. The more use of their services, the more ads served, and the more $ they make. Android is shaping up to be a big money-maker for them, which is helping them diversity the way in which they make money. I think Google is doing a great job at starting to show they really aren’t just a one-trick pony in regard to making all their $ from google.com search. Android is showing the world Google can make money in other ways, even if it relates back to their basic business model.

  • Buckgrad

    16 without a slot for additional… Plus some bloatware from Verizon… 5 megapixel camera… Getting less excited about what I thought would be my dream phone.

    • joejoe509

      Don’t get your hopes down until we hear official word from Verizon. The “bloat” really isn’t bad. 5MP has been the only thing reviewers could really find fault in. But it’s still a good camera and your phone should never be a replacement for a dedicated camera anyway.

    • Friguy3

      People really need to stop barking about the 5MP vs 8MP camera. That has nothing to do with the quality of the picture. If youre looking to blow up a picture to poster size…buy a DSLR. Otherwise, an equivalent 8mp and 5mp camera take the same photo for what you will be using it for. I doubt anyone on facebook will be able to tell you the difference!

  • Sporttster

    I’ve got the Galaxy S2 on T-Mobile and am LOVING this phone! The one thing that bothers me is no unlimited data. But what am I to do? Stick with Verizon who can’t get its shit together with the Nexus;when it’s being delivered,lame storage of 16gb?? It’s going to have HD vid and a camera and I’m using it as a music listening device and I’m limited to 16gigs? Are you fking stupid?!?? I can stick with the GS2 and have 48gbs! Yea I’ll have to go with Walmarts $30/month plan,buy the phone outright and be limited to 5g/month,but at least I’ll HAVE the fricking phone! AND plenty of storage on it….

  • Nsbjj

    With the news of poor battery life, camera not as good as the RAZR’s Cnet’s review that the RAZR is a better phone, only 16GB, no mass storage, no release date, etc. I am done waiting for this phone.  I am getting the RAZR today.  Which is a far better phone in every category except for ICS which it will have in a few months.

  • Arodroid

    I can live with 16GB storage, especially with so many cloud sync options out there….but no USB mass storage is a deal breaker for me.  I’m better off getting the Razr and hoping a ICS ROM get released soon.

    • Anonymous

      What is USB mass storage for anyway? Hooking up a hard drive or flash drive to the micro usb port? Why would you do that with a phone? I just need to be able to hook it up to a computer.

  • Anonymous

    they’ll get usb support to you at a later date…they promise

  • Ummm yeah so I’m over this phone now. The good news is that means I can get something else. Rezound maybe?

  • I understand what they are saying with regards to SD and UMS and so on, but come on, allow me to drop in a 32GB microSD card, dedicated to my media. 

  • Phoenixy

    Galaxy Nexus: No Gorilla Glass

    Not Super AMOLED Plus display
    No Flash
    No USB Mass Storage
    No SD card slot…What’s the point of choosing this…

    • Kierra

      ICS ? I really dont know.

      • Phoenixy

        Galaxy S 2,
        RAZR will get ICS too.

        • Djstar2k2

          but when?  will it be pure android ics?  and judging from htc record with gb why think this is gonna be the update they get right when ics is a damn near total overhual.  froyo to gb was minimal and look how thats worked out for htc and mr moto

    • joejoe509

      Yet the reviews still say it’s better than it’s competitors. There’s been more than one review that has said it’s one of the best phones this year. You’re being too picky.

    • The glass is a form of Gorilla Glass just a different company.It has done quite well on the scratch test i’ve seen. The screen on this phone is gorgeous no matter which form of AMOLED it is. You would have to be super picky to knock this screen.Personaly i don’t care about flash on a phone, now on my tablet? thats a different story. The cloud is the future whether we like it or not but i too would like to see more storage options with this phone but it’s not a deal breaker when you consider that LTE makes the cloud a workable solution.

  • Michael Suriel

    [Insert mega rage here]

  • richard melcher

    So, if anyone out there is doing a case project on how NOT to launch a phone.. I hope your taking notes. 

    • Kierra

      Yeah I know. I played with the Razr yesterday. I really like it

  • Graham Wilson

    Forget this phone I’m tired of all this! I was so hype when they announced it and now all this! im done with Verizon and their crap!

  • Anonymous

    i got the Razr and have no regrets so far.  GB is fine for me and i want the TSBs.  Don’t really want ICS until I see it is not buggy like the Nexus S was.  We will get this beast to play with but too big for my little pockets.

  • Brandon Sobotta

    This whole thing is kinda comical. Its karma for all the shit that was spoke against the bionic, and RAZR. Either way I think the Rezound, and RAZR will have some converts.

  • Memphis1967

    So, if everything is in the same partition, what happens when we flash or wipe? Are we going to lose everything?

    • Jadam6118

      You can back up files in cloud storage or still copy them to your PC.

      • Brandon Sobotta

        kinda a pain in the ass if you ask me, i like having my sd card to switch around.

        • Djstar2k2

          thats my only beef too.  its so much easier to swap out a sd caed then copy everything over.  plus your gonna have take a pic to get your camera folder right and dl to get your download folder set

      • Memphis1967

        Even 16 gb is a lot to upload to the cloud, no matter how fast your connection is

        • Steve

          It took about 24 hours for me to upload just over 9GB of MP3’s to Google Music from my PC, just to give you some idea.

          • Most people in the U.S. have cable-providers for their ISP. Cable usually offers high downlink speeds (5mbps-20mbps, generally) and TERRIBLE uplink/upload speeds (usually less than 500kbps). Uploads take forever because of your ISP. If you uploaded all 9GB over Verizon 4G that typically has 3+mbps upload speeds (sometimes as high as 10-15mbps), your files would have taken minutes, maybe just a few hours even, to upload rather than a full day.

          • I imagine those numbers will slow considerably as more people adopt 4G. Eventually as they tweak the network it will go back up again, I think. 

          • Sure, but they are still lightyears faster than 3G. And, Verizon will continue to expand 4G in current markets as well as push it out to new markets, and optimize as they go along. 4G has an incredible amount of spectrum/capacity compared to 3G. They are putting in MASSIVE backhaul for 4G towers.

          • Yes, but look how bogged down 3G gets with use. I’m sure throttling people that switch their huge uploads to 4G will help keep it fast, too. There is a reason cable providers dont crank the speeds up, because most of them could. 

          • Most people are still on 3G. Converting people to 4G is a slow, arduous process. There will be no “spectrum crunch” any time soon, anywhere. Verizon, by all accounts & measures, has the best network in the U.S. Your fears are misplaced, in my opinion. Also, CDMA is more limited for 3G than are GSM networks, due to the nature of the technology. This has been resolved with Verizon’s LTE – since it’s a GSM technology.

          • I agree that 4G is set up for success and I will be switching to it, and I am sure I will love it, but I think you are underestimating the likely speed of the conversation. Think about all the Android models that came out 1-2 years ago that are either now out of warranty or are coming up on the 18-24 month upgrade date. I think most people will upgrade quickly and unless they are buying the iPhone, Android is a 4G product now. I dont see sales of the Incredible/X 2 to skyrocket, likewise with the other non-4G phones. In fact the only phone I can imagine still selling well is the DROID3.

          • Think about that smartphones still aren’t 100% of the cell phone market – and most non-smartphones are 3G only (in fact, there are no 4G non-smartphones). Further, the iPhone does hold about 25% of the market, and it’s 3G only. Right there you have close to half of all customers (a very rough estimate) on 3G only. Then think about all the people who still have a Droid X, Droid 1/2/3, Incredible, or other high-end 3G only Android smartphone. This is probably way more than the people who have a 4G smartphone (Charge, Thunderbolt, Bionic, RAZR, Rezound, etc.) – 4G adoption is slow. More people than not DO NOT have access to 4G coverage where they live. That sucks. And until coverage is much better, 4G adoption will continue to be slow. Verizon knows it must have the network to sell the phones. They go hand in hand.

          • Anonymous

            4G LTE thru Verizon is available to over 180 million people in the US.  The adoption is slow not because of network coverage.. but because people are skeptical about the durability of 4G phones..  battery issues for the most part. Plus the fact that Verizon, unlike AT&T is not that vigorous when it comes to marketing average-end 4G LTE smartphones. 
            In all honesty the Galaxy Nexus is not worth 299.. even for a 32 GB version.. when looked from an hardware standpoint. The price tag will be for ICS. 
            AT&T however rolled out two 4G LTE smartphones and one was less than a hundred.. (albeit not a super smartphone).

            AT&T obviously has it’s reasons.. it wan’t early adopters into it’s own 4G LTE which is still in its infancy. 
            Verizon on the other hand has a very matured 4G network.. but that is also backfiring because of above mentioned skepticism and Verizon being lackadaisical about launching popular phones. 

            Passing up on the Samsung GS II was simply criminal!

  • I call bull**** on the whole “Verizon is still testing for bugs” argument. Vodafone is testing for bugs, yes, because they officially communicated that. However, if you follow Black_Man_X on Twitter, you’ll know he said this morning (in a tweet to everyone) that Verizon is NOT holding the phone back due to bugs, continued testing, etc. The phone is finalized. It’s ready. It has been. Verizon is doing this out of PURE GREED. They want to push more Rezounds and RAZR’s.

    Sadly, it isn’t going to work out that well for them, but they will push this thing back as far as they can to squeeze every dime they can out of the RAZR/Rezound. My partner is a great salesman for VZW corporate and tells me that he has several customers per day coming into the store asking for the Galaxy Nexus, and he has to tell them it’s not released yet. 99% of them walk out the door, empty-handed, indicating they’ll come back later for the GNex. He’s tried selling RAZRs and Rezounds to them, but no one wants them (except the uneducated customers who just want whatever the so-called latest/greatest is). He said sales of RAZRs and Rezounds are bleak and, quite frankly, sad. He said they’re doing worse than the Bionic, which didn’t do that well, either.

    I think Verizon has invested too much money into the RAZR and Rezound to cannibalize their sales with the Galaxy Nexus. Verizon knows that especially for our crowd, but also for the general public crowd, that there’s no reason to buy either RAZR or Rezound when the Galaxy Nexus is out, and since Verizon pays manufacturers for a set amount of phones ahead of time and CANNOT return them to the vendor if they don’t sell, they want to burn through as many as they can so they don’t lose $ on this whole deal with Moto/HTC before they push the new Samsung phone.

    It’s that simple. It’s all down to $, and Verizon does have something to lose, even if sales of the GNex are incredible. Say they were to release the Galaxy Nexus on Monday – they would likely have a decent launch, but it would mean mostly GNex sales and very few RAZR/Rezound sales. That’s good on the surface, because any sale is a good sale, however, all the RAZR/Rezounds VZW paid for will continue to just sit in their warehouse, and Verizon will essentially never get anything on their investment into those phones. If they wait on selling the Galaxy Nexus, they may sell fewer of that phone, but if they have’t committed to too many already, they can still sell the amount they have committed to to Samsung, while in the short-term (before the GNex launch) push as many RAZR/Rezounds onto customers as possible to burn through as many of those phones as they can. The end goal, then, is to have as few RAZR/Rezounds in their warehouses unsold as possible. They can do this by delaying the Galaxy Nexus for a little longer. People will become desperate; people who have no patience; people who are impulsive. These people will buy the RAZR or Rezound.

    This is a day-by-day thing. Verizon is evaluating their numbers and sales of their devices day-by-day and won’t make a decision until someone at corporate is happy enough with the sales of RAZR/Rezound to make an official move. The best thing we could do, HONESTLY, is go out and buy RAZR/Rezounds to play with, keep them in mint-condition (rent them, as Black_Man_X suggested). Black_Man_X said to do this for a REASON – if thousands of us go buy the RAZR/Rezound right now, Verizon’s sales of those phones will look artificially wonderful – and it could spur them to pull the trigger on the Nexus. All we have to do is chalk up the $35 restock fee, which, in my opinion, isn’t that much money. If you can’t afford the $35 restock fee, then you probably can’t afford the $300 Galaxy Nexus, anyway.Just my thoughts – but some things are adding up when you look at things from this view.

    • Kierra

      WOW , I have no words for your dissertation about a phone. 

    • Kierra

      Lol most people dont even know what a Galaxy Nexus is. Its funny how when you care about something you project those feelings on everybody else. 

      Most consumers want the Razr or the Rezound that comes with the head phones. 

      True story

      • It’s not about RAZR/Rezound vs. Nexus, even. It’s about RAZR/Rezound themselves – they both suck enough to the point that they aren’t selling. Delaying the Nexus allows more time to sell these devices (to burn through already-committed-to stock sitting in warehouses).

        I think you mis-read or misinterpreted what I wrote. This could be any high-end superphone (except the iPhone, probably) and it would be likely it would be delayed, too. The fact is, there are too many high-end phones being released in a short window of each other and it’s come back to bite Verizon. They thought they could obliterate sales with the RAZR/Rezound, and they didn’t. These phones essentially flopped. Sorry.

        And not that the Nexus is their savior – it may not be a giant success, either. However, why release it when you’re still sitting on thousands of phones in your warehouse? The average customer may not know the difference – or maybe they will – but that doesn’t matter. Until Verizon makes back enough of the $ it invested into the RAZR/Rezound, OR enough time passes and their hand is then forced to release the Nexus, we won’t see the Nexus launched, period.

        • Kierra

          TL;DR the whole thing
          You’re basing all sales off of what you’re partner said?? oh ok

          Not that big of a deal to me. None of these phones are awe worthy even though I’d choose the Razr. 
          Me and my X will ride it out til the next batch

          • This is about more than just total contracts acquired at the end of the day. This is about selling through already-paid-for inventory.

        • Steve

          Let’s relate this to other businesses, car dealerships for example.  Are they going to intentionally delay the sales of a highly anticipated new car model just to clear out existing inventory?  Hardly.  Supply and demand is a part of life.  And let’s face it, Verizon over charges for their phones at launch anyway, right?  The way they will sell them is to drop the price in a few months, and even at discounted prices, they will STILL make money.

          • That is a pretty craptastic analogy, “Steve”. You assume the Galaxy Nexus is “highly anticipated” – but how do you know it is? Just because all of us nerds want it, does that mean the general public, the other 99% of buyers, want it the same? NONE of my family members know what the Galaxy Nexus is, despite my having posted about it on Facebook several times. They’ve forgotten about it despite my having told them about it once or twice.

            I heard a ton of gossip from classmates, co-workers, friends, family, etc. about the iPhone 4S – but I haven’t heard ONE PERSON say anything about the RAZR, Rezound, OR Nexus outside of Android- or tech-related websites and forums. I would say the Nexus is only more anticipated by the enthusiast crowd than the Razr/Rezound – but as for the general public, they might as well be the same phone, because most people don’t know the difference.

            My point is, when put in VZW stores side-by-side the RAZR/Rezound, the Nexus is likely to seem like the better choice. Newer version of Android, better screen, etc. If Verizon did that now, they would be even MORE unable to sell through current stock of RAZR/Rezound than they already are. Hence the delay of the Nexus (or, rather, the withholding of any official announcement/release date).

          • Steve

            For the general public, they don’t know about any phones ahead of time until they see commercials for it.  Obviously those of us on sites like this are few and far between.  You contradicted yourself about the Nexus.  You claim that it’s relatively obscure yet it will sell better in stores once it’s side-by-side to the Razr and Rezound.  I don’t agree.  The general consumer will likely still choose the Razr or Rezound first because those are shinier, have pretty skins, come with headphones, etc.  They will not care about or even notice the different OS version.

          • You’re discounting the influence salesmen/women have on customers. I know for a fact that many people come in saying “I want an iPhone” and walk out with Android devices. Why? The reps at Verizon challenged the customers to justify their desire to have an iPhone. When the customer was informed of the other choices/options, they chose to go with what seemed better – a given Android device – for the same price.

            This will happen with the Nexus. Many Verizon reps don’t care or really know about phones, but usually those who have the highest sales, and thus the most impact, know a lot about the phones, and they care enough to attempt to sell more of that kind of phone. They usually push whatever they think is best. Across many stores in my local area, the best reps are leaning toward the Nexus as the next “big thing” to push. There’s a lot of chatter about it. These reps, many who have 2-3x the sales of the average rep, and thus interact with a lot more customers than the average rep, will talk it up and downplay other phones (RAZR, Rezound, iPhone). You discount the fact that many VZW reps felt burned by Apple and are still pushing Android over iPhone for the fact that they honestly believe the iPhone is overrated. And I agree with them.

            Also, even before I cared about Android, I never bought a phone for the “shiny skin on the OS.” I bought a phone based on: overall features, price, plan compatibility (it matters now because of 3G/4G), accessory availability, and other factors. I also would ask “What do you recommend?” and give some serious thought to what the rep would tell me.

            Most customers ask “what’s the best right now? how much does it cost?” If they’re told the Nexus is the best, and costs the same as other 4G phones, they will undoubtedly buy it.

          • Anonymous

            put an hd super amoled screen with the latest os and bring in a person who has no idea and guarantee they will go with what is “newer” They see android 4.0 vs 2.3 and say well 4.0 has to be better. It is america higher always means better in consumers eyes. same way people think because it is more expensive it has to be better even if it isnt.

        • Kierra

          And when was the razr released on the 11th? 
          You in too deep with this phone thing Josh. FR FR

        • Anonymous

          Maybe the fact that we are in a shitty economic time and people do not want to spend $300 for a phone? You act like they don’t have people who determine what sales will be like? You think this is the first time verizon did this and they completely screwed it up? Doubt it. Most likely verizon got exclusivity so no other carrier(US) could get it for awhile, not really wanting or caring to be the first to launch, just stopping others from carrying it for awhile.

          • Anthony Vella

            I am not an Apple fan personally but Steve Jobs approach to sell the iPhone at 2/3 the price of most smartphones on the basis of quantity vs sell less for a high price is the best idea yet. I pay $30/M for this data plan and they expect $299 for 16 GB of storage, they can get the hell out of this market, greedy money bastards.

          • Thats a very different issue, and for that you have to understand consumer moods, needs, desires, etc. I  think that phones are no longer viewed as a luxury item and instead a necessity (as well as status symbol). I work with children (from 10-18) and it baffles me how much I hear parents complain about cost of living, the economy, etc while I watch their child play on their own personal iPhone or Blackberry (I cant tell you how many 13 year olds I know with freakin’ Blackberries). Parents either dont know or dont care that they dont need to be spending $30 or more a month on data for their children (I know some pay less now). I live in an area that goes from true middle class to very wealthy, and this applies to all the economic brackets I encounter. While I agree that most items are being viewed with extra care, I have no encountered many people that think that way about phones.

            #poll Now that the Nexus has been ‘delayed’ again will you be waiting for its release? http://twtpoll.com/xe699h

        • Anonymous

          What is lacking in your analysis is that Verizon will have made the same type of order commitments to Samsung.  We know that they will be selling some of the GN, it is a matter of exactly when it starts and exactly what the configuration is.  Moving more Razr or Rezound would be great, except the warehouse will then become overstocked with the GN.  Sure there will be a two week sales spike with the GN into because of the firmly committed people who are determined to have it.  After that each of the three phones will have to stand on their own merits based upon consumer acceptance, word of mouth recommendations, and reviews.

          What I find interesting is that Verizon has continued to screw around with the Samsung products.  The best selling phone in the world was the Galaxy S II and Verizon evidently ccanceledit for their network.  Now the GN is being denied market access on the Verizon network.  I would look for Samsung at some point to tell Verizon to get in line and beg about two more phone generations down the line.  The computer (smart) performance and capabilities of these ssmart phonesis getting better at a geometric rate.  The manufacturers deserve to be able to sell the latest and greatest when they have it.  Then they can afford to upgrade and cannibalize their own product with something better.

          • This may seem like a conspiracy theory, and maybe it is – but I’ve always personally maintained that Verizon and Motorola have a pretty crazy back-room deal worked out where they support one another over anyone else. You ALWAYS see the “best” Motorola products on Verizon – so why? Motorola is getting something from Verizon they aren’t getting from anyone else. And Verizon ALWAYS pushes their Moto devices above anything else (except the iPhone). They are prioritizing the RAZR over the Rezound, despite the Rezound being the superior device. They prioritized the Bionic over the Thunderbolt at CES, despite the Thunderbolt being the phone that, in the end, has sold phenomenally better for Verizon.

            In every way, Verizon has been quite loyal to Motorola and Motorola to Verizon. It makes no sense, except that they are using each other to gain something. Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem their partnership is as lucrative as they wish it to be. That’s my opinion, though.

          • Anonymous

            Not necessarily true.  AT&T got the Atrix first.  One can argue whether or not it’s 4G, but it was the first dual core phone, high end for its time, and Verizon didn’t have anything comparable until the 3 and X2 came out later in the year.  It was also the first to have the Moto dock.  Sprint also got the Photon before the Bionic came out.

            Verizon may sell more Moto devices than Sammy.  If Verizon would quit gimping Sammy devices compared to the others (2GB and 384MB on the Fascinate compared to all other GS devices.  Seriously?), they might actually sell more.

            I think Sammy gets the short end of the stick on Verizon in general, and this is just another case of it.  Verizon seems much more cozy with HTC and Moto, though I wouldn’t bet the farm on Moto being the preferred company.

        • Anonymous

          Where do you get all this info that the Razr and Rezound are not selling?  I was not aware any concrete figures have been released regarding either.  Just because you want a Nexus and think the Razr and Rezound “suck” does not mean they are not selling.  The Nexus will be out soon, and this silly waiting period will mean nothing to you.

        • Anonymous

          I think all these phones suck just enough to some degree to not make it a clear choice.  There are things I don’t like about all 3 of them.  The question is – which has the “problems” that you can deal with the best?

          RAZR – Nonremovable battery, Blur, lowest res screen, average camera
          Rezound – Qualcomm processors, Sense, thickest of the bunch, smallest stock battery
          Nexus – Questionable storage capacity (at this point), no USB mass storage, no micro SD slot, possibly buggy OS (maybe polished, but a new OS release is always risky no matter the platform), lack of app compatibility initially

          None of these phones is perfect.  Let’s be honest, the hardware specs on the Nexus are actually quite lackluster.  They’re not bad for the most part, but not spectacular either.  What we’re all really excited for is ICS.  It just happens to be coming on the Nexus first.  Nexus will give a vanilla experience which is attractive, but being so new it’s going to have growing pains too.

          Now in all honesty, I buy my phones full retail.  I don’t do contracts, so there’s no subsidy on me.  Verizon’s gonna get my $649 whether I buy a RAZR, a Rezound, or a Nexus.  I don’t think it matters to them which I buy just as long as they get my money and I’m still using their service.

        • Billyrouth2000

          Not selling? Pretty sure they are, the galaxy nexus will not sell

      • Anonymous

        I have seen more rezound commercials than I have razr commercials.

        • SKAV3NG3R

          its about even. i have seen alot of Raz adds during football
           on sunday

    • Steve

      Fork over a restocking fee just to trick Verizon into perceived higher sales of the Razr/Rezound to get the G-Nex sooner?  No thanks.  Verizon pays someone’s salary to determine/estimate the future demand for a particular phone.  If they over-estimated that demand by such a huge margin, and are delaying the launch of the Nexus as a result, shame on them.  I don’t believe that theory anyway.  By NOT releasing the Nexus now (assuming it’s ready as you think), they are just shooting themselves in the foot by lost potential sales.

      • Shame on them, I agree – however, it seems a very likely scenario that’s playing out right now. It’s hard to argue with, really. Verizon is extremely aggressive for sales, and I’d never put something like this past them. How else can you explain the fact that P3 and Black_Man_X say the phone has been and is ready and is not delayed due to bugs – why else delay?

        • Steve

          Verizon makes money on contracts, not phones.  I can’t find any reason or incentive for them to delay the launch due to another phone’s lack of sales.

          • Verizon places an order for a certain quantity of phones and pays the manufacturer (Moto/HTC in this case) for them ahead of time. Then the phones are shipped to VZW’s warehouses. It’s as simple as that.

            This is why you see manufacturers often report sales in terms of “units shipped” instead of “units sold.” Maybe Moto shipped 300,000 RAZRs to Verizon, but Verizon only sold 225,000. Well, Verizon eats the cost of the remaining 75,000 phones – maybe they discount the RAZR by $50 to get it out the door – better to sell many of the remaining 75,000 at a $50 discount than none at all at full price. Either way, Motorola makes their money up front. Now, if the phones don’t sell, perhaps Verizon is skeptical to buy so many phones next time from Moto – so certainly Moto does what they can to promote/help sell the device. But from a pure numbers standpoint, it’s all on Verizon.

            This is exactly what’s happening right now with the RAZR/Rezound. It’s as simple as supply & demand. Way too much supply (which hurts Verizon), way too little demand. No nexus until that ratio shifts quite a bit.

          • Anonymous

            the razr and rezound haven’t even been out 2 weeks yet of course they aren’t going to sell all them within that time this isn’t the iphone. I am sure verizon knew that also.

          • Anonymous

            Based on my limited retail experience, the reality is that the phone manufacturers actually agree to buy-back any unsold units.

            In most industries, it depends on the balance of power between the manufacturer and the retailer. In the U.S., the carriers have a virtual monopoly and therefore have the power to dictate the terms of these agreements. Meaning that Verizon can most certainly force the manufacturers to agree to buy-back any unsold units.

          • That’s a scenario I did not consider. Maybe true – how can we know? I tend to put a little bit of trust in what you have to say; agreements are rarely one-sided, unless there is a power difference. Verizon is more powerful than most of these manufacturers (Samsung is pretty weighty, though – much more so than Motorola).

            Perhaps they buy back the phones, but at a discounted rate? Who knows. Still, I’m sure Verizon wants to avoid the Manufacturer buying back too many phones…

          • Just sitting here typing a few responses in the past 30-45 minutes, I’ve seen 4 RAZR commercials on a few different channels. It’s a pretty clear indication that Verizon, at the present moment, is desperate to sell this phone. It’s Motorola’s biggest flagship in over a year (the Bionic was never what it could have been), and they and Verizon both put a ton of time/money into this thing. It isn’t playing out for them very well, and they’re making Google/Samsung wait as a result. It sucks for everyone. The RAZR is a bad product that under-delivers on its crazy hype-laden promises. Once again, we can chalk this one up to Moto’s bad products and Verizon’s poor judgment. And I am criticizing a company that pays 75% of the bills in my household.

          • Kierra

            Ok dude we get it. 
            You’re in the “know” 
            Lol. You seem kinda trollish, you might as well be saying ” you mad bro”

          • Kierra

            The Razr is a bad product? 
            LOL now you aint even trying 

          • Steve

            I’m no Moto fanboy, but the Razr is a “bad” product?  It has several features that no other phone out right now can claim.  I’m afraid your opinion is in the minority.  How about a bad economy?  Don’t you think that could contribute to what Verizon is classifying as “poor” sales?  Like I said before, it seems to me to be a case of wishful thinking on their part when they determined how many units to pre-buy.  I honestly don’t care if the Nexus comes out Monday or next month.  I will patiently wait for it.

          • joejoe509

            Personally the RAZR isn’t “bad”. It’s just not the best of the three. The only thing the RAZR has over the other two is the thin body and premium materials. Otherwise, it’s nothing special. That said, all three are great phones and no one should be ashamed of their choice.

          • Ok, sure, the RAZR isn’t “bad”, but I wouldn’t buy it over the Rezound. Of the Nexus, Rezound, and RAZR, the RAZR is clearly the worst. The worst camera, the most locked-down, and the worst looking. It’s hard to hold, clunky, and weirdly shaped. I think it’s downright ugly from all angles.

            I’ve played with the Rezound and RAZR and highly prefer the Rezound to the RAZR. Sense > Motoblur any day. Still, I could never own another non-stock phone (currently using CM7 on my Thunderbolt) – Sense is too bloated, and Blur is too constricted and finicky. I might be able to live with TouchWiz (I was thinking of getting a GSII if it came to Verizon), however, I probably would just put CM7/9 on it.

            About the “extra features” the RAZR has – they are complete gimmicks. Smart actions, like Siri, is a total gimmick and doesn’t add any value for me as a consumer. I would never want my phone to send a text to a certain person every time I arrived home, or at work, or anything like that. And if I wanted to set my alarm clock, I will set it; I don’t want to ask a robot to do it for me and then have to go in and re-do it because the robot messed it up in the first place. This goes for all the possibilities that “Smart Actions” brings – I don’t want any of it. Voice typing, however, as seen on the Galaxy Nexus, looks fantastic. I drive a stick shift car, so driving and voice typing is so much easier than trying to text at a stop light. You CANNOT text and drive stick (well, you can, but it’s extra-dangerous). I also don’t condone texting + driving, even in an automatic.Further, with names like “XYBOARD” and “XOOM” I am kind of embarrassed to publicly admit I own any Motorola products. I think the new RAZR is a complete letdown and waste of the original RAZR’s namesake. Hence why I sold my Xoom when we got a free Galaxy Tab 10.1. The GTab 10.1 is a thousand times better than the Xoom anyway – it’s way thinner and more responsive, and the 4G actually works, unlike the spotty 4G we got on our Xoom after it was upgraded back in August.Motorola products just aren’t cutting it. The RAZR, while thinner and made of higher-quality materials, still suffers from the same crap that all other Motorola products suffer from: Motoblur, a very, very poor attempt by Motorola to differentiate its products. Further, Motorola has the WORST headphone jacks, ever. I replaced my original Droid several times due to headphone jack issues, and my Droid X twice because of the problem. I’ve never replaced my Thunderbolt due to any hardware issue.To conclude, I’d like to say that Samsung products are classier, more reliable, better looking, and easier to use than Motorola products. HTC is more in the middle. They sacrifice thinness (usually) for more reliability, however, Sense is just so bloated that it takes a fully-decked-out phone just to have a semi-smooth experience. Even among the skins, TouchWiz is clearly the best, but even it sucks. This is why so many people are excited about the Nexus. Most of us want to be rid of those terrible skins for a long time. Unlike it seems many of you here, I AM willing to wait to get what I want. I would NEVER buy a Rezound/RAZR, personally. I will wait for the Nexus, even if it doesn’t launch until mid-December.

          • Someone

            You are the epitome of a “flip flopper”.

          • Anonymous

            I love when I hear people say the RAZR is hard to hold, it sounds so gay!!! Man up Josh…..

          • Guest

            ..

          • partidroid

            Quit acting like a little bitch… touch wiz!? Are you serious?

          • Kierra

            if thats the case  The GNex aint nothing special either. Just get the phone you want. When did it become a pissing contest?

          • Anonymous

            Welcome to Droid Life

          • r8r

            I think it’s as simple as if there were no such thing as the razr or rezound right now, then of course Verizon would be selling the nexus right now. So yes you are correct that the poor sales of these two devices have contributed to the delay in launch date for the nexus that we have anticipated so much.

          • Well put.

          • Anonymous

            Since when was the Razr “hyped”??

          • l4do0

            They just ran two rezound commercials, in the past 10 mins. I went to VZW yesterday, asking them about the rezound and razr. Sales rep said, they haven’t sold a rezound yet. 

      • Jadam6118

        We should all start a threatening campaign to switch to AT&T if the GNex isn’t released soon. (I would never actually switch but they don’t know that.) If it came between phone sales(Razr and Rezound) and losing thousands of customers I am pretty sure they would give in.

      • Anonymous

        They lost a sale of any of the three phones from me today. I’ll just wait for the quad cores and 2nd gen LTE radios.

        • Anonymous

          That’s a long wait.

          • Anonymous

            March or april-ish is what I’m guessing. Not that big of a deal IMO.

          • Anonymous

            more like june/julyish. verizon is always the last for everything.

          • Jaredtrobinson

            Thats what we all said this time last year about dual core ,1gb RAM , LTE…and how long was that wait?

    • Anonymous

      I “liked” your comment for all the great content and perspective, but I strongly DISLIKE your conclusion, Josh.  I’d rather stand out in front of a Verizon store holding a sign that reads, “FORCE VERIZON TO RELEASE THE GALAXY NEXUS!”  . . . Or some other message that draws awareness to this ridiculousness.

      • You can dislike whatever you want – but can you say it doesn’t make any sense? I can’t. I don’t like my conclusion either, but I think it’s grounded in reality and built on commonly known knowledge. Any of us could have concluded the same thing using logic and reasoning, and a bit of sense regarding how business is done in corporate America.

        • Max0442

          That’s funny. I’m on these sites everyday keeping up with news and events in the tech world, staying informed. I got a Rezound because it fills my needs better than the Razr or the Nexus. My problem with the Nexus is the manufacturer. I’ve never had a Samsung product that didn’t have issues, most of them major. And it’s the same for most of the people I know who have products from them.

          For you to say that only the uneducated would buy a Razr or Rezound makes you sound like some of the rabid apple fans who say the same thing about anyone who gets something other than an iphone. The Nexus will not be the phone for everyone, just like neither will the Razr, Rezound, or even the iphone. There isn’t one device that will please everyone, because everyone has different needs and wants. The point of android is choice, and what’s best for one person may not be best for someone else.

    • Anonymous

      The only problem is that your statement asserts that these devices are competitive models. Yes for you or half the impatient readers here including me I completely agree with you.

      However, if your partner is in corporate and has seen the trainings, he should have also noted that those and the short sheets list each as being part of a different tier and as thus – not viewed as competitive. 
      At the end of the day what Verizon wants is people coming into their stores, signing agreements and buying stuff. Intentionally holding back Y product to move X product is not their style, making X product 100$ less than Y product is.  

      Having more choices for consumers is what they want to offer as the holiday season draws near. 

      • Regardless of what corporate views or asserts as “competitive” or “in the same category/tier”, the customers paying $300 for a new 4G phone DO NOT know NOR do they care about which phones are in the same “tier.” It’s completely arbitrary and meaningless. I don’t buy your argument, at all.

        Yes, Verizon wants agreements – but not at the cost of thousands (maybe tens or hundreds of thousands) of unsold but ALREADY PAID FOR phones sitting in a warehouse due to the release of a perceived-by-the-public-to-be-competitive device such as the Galaxy Nexus.

        • Anonymous

          Dude you are clueless. Verizon is not going to sell all of any android since a new one comes out every week, and especially if they wait until after black friday people already spent their money on christmas gifts and aren’t going to buy a phone, so the sales will slow down even more after black friday.

          • Apparently, my argument is tough for you to understand. Let me use a different analogy to explain what I mean. I’ll use food. You eat, don’t you?

            First, view phones the way you view food – a necessity. In many ways, phones, in American culture, are not an option – people see them as an American birthright; something to which they are entitled. Texting, YouTube in your pocket, unlimited e-mails and the ability to browse the web from your phone any time, any place is not seen as a luxury, it’s seen as a basic right for anyone. So let’s put aside this talk of “people won’t buy phones after Black Friday.” They will buy phones. Lots of them. Don’t be an idiot.

            Ok, here’s my honestly SIMPLE analogy. Try to follow along… PLEASE.

            Let’s assume our biggest goal is to save money/make money. If I (Verizon) already have food (phones) in my refrigerator (warehouse), and I want to make the BEST USE of what I already have paid for, how do I do that? My stomach (customers) is hungry and needs to be fed. It’s gurgling and yelling at me, “Feed me!” (let me upgrade!)

            Do I eat the ham sandwich (RAZR/Rezound) I can make from the food (phones) already in my fridge (warehouse)? After all, I already spent the money at the grocery store (Motorola/HTC/other manufacturer) for this food. If I don’t eat this food (or sell these phones), it’ll go to waste. If it gets too old, no one will want it anymore! So if I’m going to get my money out of it, I should probably eat it soon, right? If I don’t, I will either throw it away and it’ll go to waste, or maybe I’ll give it away (BOGO deals or deep discounts on phones).

            So, do I eat my ham sandwich (RAZR/Rezound) or go to Arby’s and get a Beef ‘N Cheddar and some curly fries (Galaxy Nexus)? Well, if my MAIN GOAL is to save money, I will eat my ham sandwich (RAZR/Rezound) to make my stomach (customers) happy! My stomach doesn’t care what I feed it, as long as it’s full.

            Does this make sense to you now? I didn’t think I’d have to resort to such an analogy, but damn, it seems to really put it in duh-stupid-lamen terms for you.

          • Anonymous

            You are a fool. How do you know verizon does not have nexus in it’s warehouse? Or even better let me put it in terms even you can comprehend. Verizon most likely had to pay for a certain amount of nexus as part of exclusivity. But I guess that money isn’t going to waste not selling the phones. smh you are hilarious. After black friday people spent the money they had saved up for christmas gifts and most likely will not be in full force buying a phone until around or after christmas. Clearly you have no grasp on the economy or the situation people are in. But you are never wrong so everyone has to agree with you. /s

          • I have a VERY clear grasp on the economy. I am a graduate student. I work 3 jobs (part-time each, but it adds up to over 50 hours per week) and attend a clinically-oriented graduate program in Marriage & Family Therapy. We are a competitive program and one of the best in the nation. I spent the only $5000 I had to my name (and half of it was my partner’s money) moving 5 states away to the south to go to school. I have less than $500 to my name most of the time. I do not have a savings account with any significant value, and I do not own my car outright (yet). If I had a $200+ repair for my car, I am unsure how I’d pay it outside of using a credit card. The only financial thing I have going for me is that I have GREAT credit, because I am responsible. Outside of that, I am poor, broke, and without any serious financial assets. If I make it, I did it all on my own, but if I fail, I am responsible for that, too.

            And all combined between my 3 jobs, I make less than $1500/month after tax. I have to live on that, including all expenses, like rent, car payment, insurance, food, clothing, gas, travel, etc. I took out $30,000 for one year of graduate school so I could attend the program I want to attend, and ALL of that money went to tuition, schoolbooks, and school fees. I kept $1000 to buy a laptop for school. I will graduate in 2013 and be LUCKY to make $40,000 starting out with a master’s degree. I do it because I love it; I love it very much, in fact. And I don’t complain that I am broke. But do NOT assume to know that I don’t know what it’s like to be broke, or how bad our economy is.
            I have the LUXURY of having a partner who, at times, pays for a few extras here and there – in fact, I couldn’t afford a smartphone without the 50% employee discount he provides. Plain and simple, I recognize my economic situation, and that, sadly, I am actually better off than many others. Still, you see people WORSE OFF than me walking around with iPhones, Blackberries, etc. – clearly, it isn’t enough of a strain to keep them from buying these devices. So, if our economy is so bad, how do you explain insane smartphone adoption rate? My partner averages 75% SPTR (smartphone take rate, or the ratio of smartphones sold vs dumbphones sold). That means 3 of every 4 phones sold are smartphones – which REQUIRE a data plan. If our economy is so bad, why is he able to keep his SPTR above 75% EVERY MONTH? Because, despite the economy, people are sill buying smartphones and paying for them monthly.Just for example – in our family therapy clinic, we serve low-income clients who can barely afford to pay $5 for an hour-long therapy session for them and/or their family, yet most of them have iPhones, Blackberries, or Android phones; hell, most of them are on Verizon (Verizon has a near monopoly on my geographic area). These people CHOOSE to pay $30/month for a data plan, sometimes $60/$90/$120 or MORE just for data (not including the talk/text portion of the bill, accessories, etc.) if they have multiple lines with data (usually those with a spouse or children), yet they struggle to pay our clinic between $5-$20 for a single therapy session, which is usually 2x/month (so between $10-$40 added to the cost of living per month for a family). That is miniscule, even compared to a cell phone bill.It’s clear – people buy cellphones and pay for them without regard to their economic situation. They cut costs EVERYWHERE but the internet/cell phone. Cell phones and cars are the most important categories to people these days. It used to be TV, but now it’s internet. And people will always need a car, so you see the car markets doing OK, despite a terrible economy.I mean, I’ve seen more people canceling their cable/satellite TV before their internet or smartphone – because people cannot imagine living without Facebook or the internet, but they CAN imagine living without TV, even if just for a few months here and there. This says that there has been a shift in American culture, away from the TV and toward the internet. We are all infatuated with a new technology. TV is on the downswing and smartphones/internet are on the upswing. People have ALWAYS paid for cable/satellite even when they are on government assistance. They are doing the same now with cell phones. Cut costs anywhere but inernet/cell phone. Anything goes, but those.Your argument about “the economy” is total crap, and is completely void and moot.

          • Chris Kochinsky

            because most probably paid little to nothing for their phones and not $300 dollars for them, saving them money to be used towards the data plans.

          • Anonymous

            How can you work as much as you claim and find time to write these incredibly incoherent rambling posts?  You state so much of your opinion as fact with nothing behind it other than your observations in life.  Your incredibly sweeping statements on everything from the economy, to peoples television habits are based on nothing but your own feelings, yet you claim others arguments are “void and moot”.

            Judging from your statements you have a very limited understanding on how Verizon operates and more importantly makes money.  To be frank, the way you rationalize this enormous conspiracy around the launch of a single phone makes you sound like a complete lunatic.  

            I wish I could read through the comments like old days without slugging through 4 pages of your “thoughts on life”.

          • Anonymous

            Not only that, I don’t see how a grad student studying psychology can claim to have a better understanding of the economy than any of us here.  Just means he’s smart in a particular field.

            I have a master’s degree too, but I don’t claim to be an economics expert.  I even worked for Verizon as well.  I have a hard time believing the 50% discount on phones considering when I worked for Verizon, we only got 20% off of anything including service, and phones were nowhere near that.  And yes, that was with logging in with verizon.com employee.  It’s possible that VZW may be giving their employees a special break that wasn’t available to everyone else in VZ Core or VZB, but from what I’ve seen in the time I worked for Verizon, they’re not that generous.

          • Anonymous

            For someone who presents themself to be highly educated and works three jobs to equal a total of 50 hours a week and only taking home $1,500.00 after taxes, doesn’t sound too smart.

          • Anthony Vella

            That’s a great way to put it. If Verizon would mark their phones to $199, they would sell 45% more. Data plans though also, need to be reduced because I know people that just cannot afford the insane prices, people don’t have $30 for a mobile part of their phone.

          • Billyrouth2000

            Verizon is not worried about the Nexus cutting into the sells offor the razr or rezound because it will be no competition most people are going the pick the razr or rezound

        • Anonymous

          I don’t disagree with you from an opinion standpoint per se. I was pointing out some facts that say otherwise.

          My point was if corporate does not see these as competitive models, they wouldn’t put a marketing hold on the next device as a result. 18% overlay does not warrant a hold.

          (The nexus wouldn’t have as much lab focus if they were spanning either).

    • Anonymous

      I thought this at first as well until they installed the “holiday” return policy. Given they don’t hold the Nexus until Jan 10th, this rationale really wouldn’t make sense as anyone can return their Rezound or RAZR (provided it’s released on Dec 8, or anywhere near there). Verizon would probably enjoy more so having you stuck in a two year contract. All in all, I’m sure you’re still correct about why this is being held up – greed. VZW obviously wants more control over this device (Backup Assistant? Really? I have my gmail account for that…). Based on these comments people are wearing extremely thin. Especially if they try to release a 16GB phone for $299. 

    • Anonymous

      The Razr is a better phone than the GNex. When Verizon releases the GNex you will all see that this is true.

      • Anonymous

        rezound is better than the razr. What’s your point? People get the nexus for pure google and fast updates.

        • Billyrouth2000

          Your one of the only people ive ever seen say that. Most people say the Razr blows the rezound out the water, and that sense 3.5 is slow and buggy

    • I have to say that I agree that this is certainly likely to be A reason for the delay. Maybe its not the only reason, but as we approach Thanksgiving I’m guessing there are a large number of upgrades coming up. Especially if you think that phones are bought as holiday gifts. Yes, I know the timetable isnt perfect, but it lines up more or less. As Black Friday circulars go out and people start thinking about shopping they may stroll into a conveniently located store and splurge on something nice for themselves. There is a reason Verizon is trying to give away the original Incredibles and X2s, and while they make no money off their sales, they clear out space in the warehouse and lock people into 18-24 months (or more) with an old phone. While I agree with many other posters that the average consumer may not value the Nexus line the same way the people here do, it is the consumers like us that drive the market. The iPhone would have never taken off in the first place without the fanboys. And its those same consumers who consistently drive up sales numbers with each new release. Maybe its not the same for everyone here, but when my friends want a new phone they ask me what is out there and why they should get it. I am telling everyone that I am waiting for the Nexus and I have some friends doing the same. I also have friends who are telling me, “I dont care that much, I want 4G and double data.”  It is a double edged sword. They know that there is a dedicated fan base waiting for this phone, and likely encouraging others to do so, but they also know that there are people with OG Droids and Incredibles and other phones that are coming to the end of their lives and are seeing 4G constantly and just want something new and fun.

      I personally have probably SBF’d by DX so many times that it is ready to crap out on me so I will be buying a RAZR and exchanging it for a Nexus, provided I can convince my store that I have until Jan 9 to return it, they keep telling me no. 

    • Speedracerkb1978

      Ok, now that’s you’ve gotten off your soapbox.  I just talk to a co worker who happens to be testing the Nexus and he advise me that testing sign off was push to next week.  A software update was just push to the phones the other day to fix a bug.  So yeah VZW is trying to screw you out of a working phone.
      This isn’t to say they could have come out with it and just push the software update out at a future date.

      • Anonymous

        huh? Can you use proper english as to get your point across and so people can actually read your post?

      • Undoubtedly Verizon is going to continue to test software updates as they wait to launch the phone – they DO want to release the most bug-free phone they possibly can. They would be absolutely remiss to not continue to test and release software updates while they wait for release.

        But your cannot take a software update to an as-yet-unreleased phone as “proof” that software bugs/testing are the reason for delay. The two are not mutually inclusive.

        • Tyler

          They are undoubtedly waiting to sell the device until it has 0 known bugs. This is going to be the first and last time they get to control something like this about the phone due to the fact that google controls the updates processes. This is Verizon’s first nexus and i am sure they are trying to make sure it wont be screwed up. Personally I would rather have the phone with a couple bugs that get fixed in a software update then live with the many bugs on my current phone.

      • Chris Kochinsky

        they were still testing the iPhone 4 the day before it launched. And that didn’t stop them from releasing it the next day…

    • Anonymous

      and the nexus won’t be sitting in warehouses? They paid for all of the phones it isn’t like they can get their money back on them. They make money on plans and do not care what phone you have as long as it is a smart phone with data plan.

      • That is not entirely true, Josh is right, they make money from phone sales, and even more importantly, they LOSE money from not making phone sales. Of course if the Nexus is sitting in their warehouse they are not making money, but his argument is really flawless in the fact that once it comes out its more competition for the RAZR/Rezound and Bionic, Charge, etc. which have been discounted to compete, plus the iPhone. Phones come out so quick these days and the hot seller is the flavor of the week. Once it fades it takes a $50 price hit and so on. Yes, VZW makes a killing on SMS, and data, but net loss hurts the bottom line worse than low profit. If they can shape the flavor of the week in their favor, why wouldnt they do it? And while I hate that (I THINK) they do, I understand it. 

    • Anonymous

      I would call the Razr anything but sad

      • Anonymous

        People like Josh will never understand that not everyone is a geek. Most people dont give a crap if a phone is locked and most people I hear talk think the rezound is a brick compared to the RAZR. I know Josh can’t handle the big old RAZR for some reason. Must be the weight! No must be the thickness? NO, maybe Josh is just a pussy.

        • Guest

    • Jamie

      Being an employee for Best Buy Mobile, I can attest to what you say about the Rezound and Razr sales.  They’re atrocious at best. Verizon seems to have shot themselves in the foot by being greedy this year by selling all these great ‘flagship’ phones, only for people to wait for the GNex because it’s got ICS.  Sure, the lack of microSD slot and the possibility of 32gb model is disappointing for a lot of people, and I understand that that’s a deal-breaker for a lot of Android enthusiasts (it even made me stop and reconsider my storage use), but having worked in the cell phone business for about five years now, most average people don’t really need all that space.  I’d say we sell 1 iGarbage 32/64g for every 10 or 15 16g’s, and this has been a pattern I’ve watched since Verizon got the damn thing.

    • Granted

      I absolutely agree that the Nexus hasn’t been released because they worry it would tarnish RAZR and Rezound sales.

  • eze4

    JJust give me the phone they had on stage in hong kong. I won’t except anything else.

  • Anonymous

    I was willing to overlook the fact that it’s a Samsung. I was willing to overlook the fact that the pimps at VZW were (are) sneaking in some of the bloat. I was willing to overlook the fact that this is a botched launch.

    Will not overlook the possibility that this phone has 16GB storage, no flash support, no USB mass storage. 

    • Anthonyg80

      So true.

    • Anonymous

      Yea good luck trying to save your data on this phone when wiping and installing roms.

  • MoonlapseVertigo

    Disappointing. I was looking forward to this phone, and if this garbage is true, looks like I will be keeping my X for just that much longer. 

  • hatethanet

    Samsung should just bring the Galaxy S II HD LTE to the States instead.

  • Kylebrodeur

    Slowly stepping away from buying this phone. Have to go into the Verizon Store today, I’ll be looking at the other options.

  • Bobgene

    can someone explain the implications of the lack of USB mass storage?  What exactly will I not be able to do without this protocol?

    • Anonymous

      This is taken from the reddit thread.  It definitely alleviated all of my concerns about using MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) vs. USB Mass storage:
      “I keep some important files (which don’t necessarily open on Android) backed up on my phone – will I still be able to do that? Will I be able to connect my ICS phone to any computer and transfer files to and from there, or will I need a special software for that? How will we place a file (ROMs & Mods) on our sd card and then flash it from recovery?
      permalinkparent

      [–]morrildl 2 points 1 day agoYes. Everything I’ve said here is all internal to the device. As a user you will never see any of it. As a user, what you’ll see is that it works exactly the same as before, except that you are using MTP instead of USB Mass Storage.On Windows, this is pretty close to indistinguishable. On other platforms it’s unfortunately a bit of a hoop to jump through at the moment. But that should hopefully change as people improve software like libmtp and mtpfuse.permalinkparent
      [–]nonchipmunkGalaxy S2, CM7.1 Nightly 1 point 1 day agoThanks for the clarification 🙂 I initially got a shock when I read that Android will use a file-system incompatible with Windows (directly)Now I’ve read all the MTP talk on this thread. I remember using MTP on the stock Galaxy S2 firmware – it is indeed pretty indistinguishable..”Basically, people, don’t freak out.  MTP is just as good as USB Storage mode – Meaning that we Android users will still be able to plug in to our computers and drag and drop what we want onto our phones.  Yes, still no sync software required.  However, this business about the GNEX only having 16GB of storage is rather troubling.  It better have 32GB if they want my money.  Also, how can they justify charging the same price as the Rezound and RAZR with only 16GB?

  • Anonymous

    WTF?!?!?!?!?

    ONLY 16gb? NO f’n Flash Support?! Why are they making this the worst day for everyone?!

  • I really dont know who is to blame here, but this phone just never seems to be able to figure out how to launch. Months ago there was a rumor posted about a 4.65” phone coming from Samsung and since then the specs got better and better, then, once we know the Galaxy Nexus was what was coming and ICS was going to be introduced it seems to be going backwards. I doubt Samsung made this phone overly large just to make it big. But why not use a newer chip set? Why the old 4G radio? Why only a 5MP camera? And now we cant seem to get the delays out of the way. We are quickly approaching a month late (from the rumored dates, and while they are rumors, at least some of them were probably correct at some point). No Flash wont be ready? You would think Google and Adobe would be on the same page for this since Google has bet big on Flash being important. Now the landing page says only 16GB on board? And why no microSD? I understand the lack of USB mass storage, and there are plenty of ways around that (I personally like Awesome Drop and Air Sync). And finally this $299 (rumored) price tag. I get it, its not that much of a hike, but the bottom line is the production of this device is just not that much, not even close. I get it, R&D isnt cheap, and obviously Samsung isnt pocketing a monstrous amount per phone, but if this phone is a good phone they will sell hundreds of thousands and make enough off of it. And of course Verizon will pocket some cash on this, even though the reps will lie to you all day long and say they are selling it to you at a loss. And we cant lose site of Verizon’s role in all of this. Having a DROID X & Incredible in my house I can say that VZW certainly is the common denominator for issues. When Moto and HTC updates are delayed again and again and again it cant just be that their two biggest providers of Android phones cant get their sh*t together. Plus, when there is an issue and you reach out to their support, they tell you there isnt an issue. 

    I cant wait fro this phone, and I will likely still buy it, but I think I’m going to pick up the RAZR and see if maybe that’s my phone. 

  • The reddit posts are very encouraging to me. Those of us with the OG droid know how frustrating it is to manage memory. The less apps the faster my phone runs. The fact that I dont have to worry about cleaning cache every day makes me happy. I’m glad they meant overhaul with ICS

    • Anonymous

      You don’t have to clean cache on any of the newer phones. I never clean cache on the inc2, but did on my d1. You just need to wipe cache before installing roms.

  • zUFC

    this just keeps getting worse and worse. WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!      I couldn’t wait for this phone a month ago. every breathing second was wasted thinking about the GN. Now, the wait has killed me and more and more bad news keeps coming out.      i can’t take this anymore.

    I can’t wait until Verizon has competition. someday there will be a network equal to their’s and i can’t wait to tell them “go screw yourself”

    again WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • eze4

    If this is true, I’ll be sticking to my raggedy a** thunderbolt

  • Leif Sikorski

    Flash is coming. Of course 3rd Party Software has to be updated for ICS – so wait a few weeks. The USB Mass Storage isn’t really a problem.  Instead of it it has a ptp and mtp mode which allows you the same access to the storage via usb cable as usb mass storage. It has also a great benefit, you still have the access from phone and pc at same time wich wasn’t possible with mass storage mode for sd cards. Just check the xda forums where people got already their first phones. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351132&page=3

    • I agree, third party apps will get there, its just a matter of the third parties putting the apps together, but Flash should be ready, no exceptions. Google put all of its eggs in that basket and needs to be ready. If that means making sure Adobe has a working ICS build before anyone else, so be it. Delaying a phone because one of your ‘features’/partners isnt ready is really a lame excuse. I get it, there are bugs, but this isnt a bug issue, its a not completed issue. 

  • Zeadaplaya

    Wow. This so called “Nexus” device is starting to sound like a hybrid between a Nexus and some other bloated Android phone.

  • el_R

    i’m so obsessed with this phone that nothing short of “Galaxy Nexus Gives You Full Blown AIDS” would stop me from buying it.
     

    • Gtoreznor

      twisted humor at it’s best – made my morning coffee shoot out my nose

    • Nathan Hosford

      im in the same boat but i am not an idiot only 16gb and $299-$250 no way ill wait for Tegra 3 if the G nex
      has anything less than 32gb.

  • Anonymous

    P3 seems to think it is ready for prime time.
    @P3Droid
    P3Droid

    WTF, Nexus is not delayed due to MyVerizon.apk or BackupAssistant, the phone is drop dead ready !!!

    Maybe the razr and rezound are not selling that well so they want to keep holding off on the nexus. Razr is awkward to hold and almost feels cheap with how thin it is. Rezound was much more comfortable and natural to hold in hand.

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, my RAZR may be awkward to hold for a sissy boy, lol, but at least it’s available with an SD card slot and flash. What are you holding Chris? Your pecker?

      • Anonymous

        Rezound has both of those. Nice try though dumbass. You need something wide to hold since what you got in your pants aint cutting it, atleast that is what your girl told me last night.

  • Anonymous

    Suddenly, my rooted Thunderbolt has another 6 to 12 months in my pocket.

  • Jhickman78

    Just rumors folks

  • Anonymous

    Why didn’t Razr and Rezound come with ice cream sandwich?  Both are ending up to be better hardware options.  I returned my Rezound 16 hours ago and now have a little regret because I got it cheap.  At least have 32gig in the Nexus.  If there is a 16gig it better be $200 or else I’m going to freak.  

  • Haproot

    Definitely sounding less and less desirable.  Locked bootloader most likely, only 16gb, etc..  seems like any other VZW gimped phone.  What a shame.  I’m tired of waiting. I waited and waited for the Bionic, it was a dud, so I continued on with my OG and it really is getting old.

     

    • Anonymous

      samsung does not lock their bootloaders, never have and never will. Even on verizon.

      • Haproot

        You may be 100% right, but a Nexus has never been on Verizon either.  I wouldn’t be surprised if they snaked it in there.

        • Its a Nexus which makes it a Google experience device.  It won’t be locked, similar to the Xoom.  The Xoom is considered a Google experience device which is why its easy to unlock and was free of bloat.  

        • Anonymous

          Nexus phones are pure Google experiences – meaning no skin, little bloat, and not locked.

  • Dsel892

    Droid razr anyone? If we dont get 32gb in the states im not buying this for 300 even tho I do want this dam phone.

    • Droid RAZR is an amazing deal right now since its $199 at Amazon Wireless and the rom community is amazing for the Droids. 

      • Anonymous

        Isn’t that $199 deal for the RAZR only for new customers or current customers who add new lines? It’s not a deal for those of us just looking to upgrade.

    • Anonymous

      My girl just got a razr for $220 at one if the Verizon official retailers. She talked the sales guy into the discount and a free case.

  • Hedney3

    look we’ve seen the official spec list or so people report, and we all know that its going to go out with more than just 16gb of storage. People like to sell stories and if everything good about the phone is out they have to resort to rumors of worst case scenarios. Lets be perfectly honest with our self, do you really think that this is true. No UMS i can live its not a huge deal. Flash support will come one way or another and finally we are receiving the 32gb version. Also the phone bezel is not out of this world the lte version is still thin and the phone will still rock some amazing specs. This is my next phone and no more “rumors” are going to change that. Thank you that is all. 

    • Anonymous

      That was on the google site about 16 gb. No rumor go check out their site and you will see.

      • Hedney3

        I know yet the idea that Verizon is getting a 16gb is a rumor and the 32 gb version is out in the world already. So you tell me….why change now? because its not in the best interest of google or Verizon thats for sure. And dont give me the money spiel because we both know they make more selling a phone with the higher specs. 

        • Anonymous

          Their money comes off of the plans not the phones. Actually they would make more selling a shitty cheap smartphone where the customer still pays the $30 a month compared to having to subsidize half of the phone price on higher end phones. Why do you think you see so many people with cheap phones? It may be about high end to you and I but normal consumers do not want to spend $300 on a phone.

          • Hedney3

            I dont think you get the big picture. They understand who they are selling this phone to. Its the higher end users who do want to spend 300 on a phone and that just proves my point. Thats why i said dont give me the money spiel because they dont in fact care about the phone as much as they do the plan. And they know if they want people to buy this phone at 300 and get a data plan they have to give it the specs to accomodate those users. Also i would believe that verizon and google are pretty good with marketing and understand how economics works. so if other phones for 300 are going with 32 gb im almost certain they would make the decision to match the competition. 

          • Anonymous

            techincally the phones come with 16gb and an OPTION to increase that so they aren’t coming with 32 installed, only 16 is installed. Not to mention sd cards are cheap to buy so it isn’t like the manufacturers are losing money installing a measley 16gb card.

          • Hedney3

            That doesnt address what i wrote. Look again and then tell me what people who choose to go with another phone get for $300. 

          • richard melcher

            But that still means that your competing with a phone that’s has 32gb of storage vs a 16gb. I don’t care if the 16gb GNexus costs $199, im not gonna buy it. This is a developers phone, with custom roms and apk’s I need that storage. How the hell are you gonna sell me a phone with a 720p display but not enough storage room for an HD movie. 

      • Anonymous

        Yes but we don’t yet know what will drop for Verizon. If it were 16gb I would have to give it some thought. I don’t use that space up, but who knows what will happen in the next 6 months till my next phone.

  • Anonymous

    Google:  you suck.  Don’t announce a phone that you can’t get to us without all of these stupid headaches and rumors.  It isn’t Samsung’s fault.  It isn’t Verizon’s fault.  This sits squarely on Google’s shoulders as this is their baby to manage.  And a piss poor job they’ve done.

    • false. the google phone is already out across the world.
      this site needs a downvote button.

      • Joshnichols189

        Yes but Google was aware of Verizons anal policy on phones and maybe could have waited until it was through testing to announce it.. or you know give it to Verizon earlier so they could be anal about it and still release it on time.

        • Jadam6118

          I laughed pretty hard at your comment. lol

        • Anonymous

          There are two general retail selling methods.  First is to get the retailer (Verizon) to carry the product by giving them high margins to cram it on the consumer.  Or the seccond is to offer a good enough product that the customers demand to have it and will go to a different store to get it, leaving the retailer with no sales (iPhone, maybe).  Android is only now getting powerful enough for Google and the manufacturers to attempt this strategy.  Give them another phone generation or two and it will be the equipment that determines which network the consumer chooses.

    • Anonymous

      If this is Google’s fault, then how the heck has the Galaxy Nexus been released elsewhere? A good friend of mine, who can afford it, already ordered an unlocked version from somewhere in Europe. I believe it’s supposed to arrive sometime this week. The problems facing the US version fall squarely on the shoulders of Verizon.

      • Anonymous

        I guess I think that they should have put on their carriers’ hands earlier. That’s all…

  • Will it basically work the same as UMS? Or is it completely different. But if there is only 16GB I will be mad. And BTW Yea i’m mad bro.

  • Ice456789


    If testing takes an extra couple of weeks, I’m fine with that as long as the experience is almost flawless.” – says the guy who is currently using a Rezound. Yeah, you’ve got plenty of patience. Those of us with OG’s that struggle to just answer calls feel differently. I’d take a flawed Nexus today. It won’t be as flaky as my OG is no matter what’s ‘flawed’. 

    • Jayjay

      You guys seriously need to stop complaining. I have an EnV2 that turns itself off when open it up to use the qwerty keyboard and won’t receive a text until I turn it off and turn it back on

      • Anonymous

        Cowboom has used fascinates for $65. Just something to think about.

        • LionStone

          Plus a new rental is only $35.

      • Joshua

        I had a bad first experience with cowboom, which will most likely keep me from going back to that site.  Your phone has issues, I’m going on 59 days without a phone after dropping my OG DROID. I’d take a flawed G- Nexus with a planned OTA update to fix whatever the current issues their having, compared to having no phone at all. -just my two cents

      • Ice456789

        No, you need to JOIN us in our complaining. Are you happy waiting for Verizon to ‘perfect’ this phone an extra month while you’re using you EnV2 that doesn’t work? I would think not. Would you accept a flawed GN right now, knowing that a future software update will fix any flaws? If so then you agree with me.

  • Sometimes i wonder if stuff like this is done just to keep people talking about the phone while everone waits. Time will tell i guess.

  • 16gb for 299$. F U verizon. F U samsung. I swear I wish ICS hadn’t blown iOs5 out the water or I might switch.

  • Hugapunk

    I can work around no UMS, but only having a 16gb version available, and not being able to put one of my SD cards in the device make waiting on the next best thing seem more of a reality. For whatever reason, VZW seems to have trouble releasing any highly touted/highly anticipated device, ie Thunderbolt, Bionic, G-Nex

    • Jadam6118

      Yeah no kidding. They seem to screw things up royally. We should have all been really excited about the rezound and the razr then those might have been delayed and the GNex might be out by now lol

  • Scott

    Thanks for the info as usual but oh man, the more I learn about this device with each bit of info that comes out, the more deflated I am and the less desirable it is.  My OG Droid is on its last legs and I’m not going to wait much longer to upgrade.  VZW, please don’t make me settle for a RAZR.

    • Anonymous

      I went and got a Razr yesterday to replace my OG Droid – the phrase “settle for” does not come to mind. The Razr is one cool phone and I will keep it until no earlier than I get to test run a GN – if the GN is much better, then I will exchange. 

      • Kierra

        I played with the Razr yesterday. I loved it. 

    • Anonymous

      I may snag a rezound, that phone looks like a great phone plus with not being locked down it will get lots of development and ics roms quickly.

      • zUFC

        can’t balme you Chris one bit. this is rediculous. Nothing but good things about the Rezound. And this thing keeps getting worse and worse. when it does come out next year it probably won’t even be a phone …………

        • Anonymous

          Agree. I went to a verizon store today and held the rezound and razr and rezound felt much better in hand, razr was so wide it felt weird in hand. Plus I think how thin it is actually made the rezound seem like the better phone in hand. Plus that hd screen=damn

          • SKAV3NG3R

            Chris, i agree that the Rezound feels better and a much MUCH (((MUCH))) smaller bezel…ahhhh.

          • Anonymous

            WTF, if the RAZR felr wide how would the nexus feel? What are you, a little girl?

          • Guest

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          • Anonymous

            I bought a Rezound last night as I got tired of waiting and I’m happy with it so far.  I bought the extended battery.  It’s a bit beefier with it but definitely manageable.

      • SKAV3NG3R

        like posted i just got back from a VZW store, the only prob i have with the Rezound is, no full HDMI with out purchasing a adapter.

        kind-o-sucks…deal breaker maybe not…ehh  

  • Anonymous

    I do not like the wording on flash sorry “as far as we know”

    • Anonymous

      It’s irrelevant.  Our good friends in the “customization” community will take care of that.

  • Anonymous

    I posted this on phandroid earlier, but I’ll say it again.  It is in Verizon’s best interest to allow their devices to compete with each other to drive more sales, so $299 with only 16GB does not make any sense.  To the average consumer who knows nothing about what “Nexus” means, that would rule it out, so it wouldn’t even be worth Verizon’s shelf space for that capacity at that price.

    Also, why in the world would Verizon testers have 32GB, and the consumer is left with only a 16GB option?  Makes no sense.  I personally wouldn’t mind 16GB, but no way in hell I’m paying $299 for something limited to 16GB.

  • Beranimus

    Wow. It just seems like the G-nex becomes less and less appealing every day. Its sad to honest. It was the phone I looked forward to more any other but now…. I dont think I want it at all. 🙁

  • Anonymous

    just to comment to the line “To be fair though, Verizon has always stressed that they want their customers to have the best mobile experience possible, so extra testing measures aren’t necessarily a bad thing. ” where was that concern during the tbolt reboot issue that wen unnoticed for several months from Verizon. then the patch to fix was another couple of months. Forget the part that the tbolt was almost crippled without root and custom rom.

    I see Verizon as a powerful service provider not my buddy who is watching my back.

    • user01

      This.  I like Verizon and find the service to be good but, as far as I can tell Verizon doesn’t do any better when it comes to quality of software & bugs on their smartphones.  And that’s on top of the delays for “extra testing”….

  • If all this is true, then I’m probably going to have to go with the rezound.

  • Anonymous

    The lack of USB Mass Storage doesn’t bother me. I manage fine with my Xoom that doesn’t have UMS. What kills me is the 16gb. I didnt see one deal breaker until i saw that. What a crock of sh#t. I hope this isn’t true. Upside is it will save me 300 bucks.

  • Anonymous

    If there is no 32 GB version, I will not buy this phone.

    • Anonymous

      DITTO, DITTO, DITTO.  16 GB is so 2009.  Get with the freaking program, Google.

    • Anonymous

      I’m with you. I’d consider 16GB if it supported a micro SD card, but the Nexus won’t.

    • I agree, as much as I love this phone 16 Gig is not enough space.

  • Anonymous

    This is just getting out of hand.  They just need to release it or at the very least tell us what and when.  

  • When it comes to Apple, no company offers less for more! BUT Verizon is certainly giving them a run for their money 🙁
    Yes, I am Fapple… but soon to be Ferizon!

    • Anonymous

      How many sites are you going to say this on?  Think I’ve seen it from you on 3 so far. 

      • same topic over at phandroid, same response, (and 2 not 3) so chill out, geez 

  • Gadam

    Wow, the Nexus is getting worse. First, it has a huge top and bottom bezel and now this.

    • Jordan

      The large bezels and no 32GB rumor is pretty dissapointing. Especially if the 16GB sells for $299. 

      • Steve

        I agree.  Everyone had been talking about how the size of this phone wouldn’t change much from current 4.3″ screen phones due to the software buttons but that didn’t turn out to be true.  Samsung put an especially huge top bezel on this thing making it super long…wasted real estate.  Having said that, I’m not giving up hope, and I fully intend to put this thing through its paces once it hits stores before I decide which 4G phone to go with. 

        • Anonymous

          What you guys are talking about seems rather odd since the Nexus is no larger than the Razr.

          So if all the new phones are too big for you I understand… These new phones are not ideal for midgets or people with itty bitty fingers.

          There are tiny phones out there like the Incredible 2 if you don’t want a larger screen.  But if you are saying the Nexus is too big you are incorrect since it is no larger than the Razr.

          • Brandon Sobotta

            Yeah, i really didnt see anyone comparing it to the RAZR in Gadams thread.

          • Tim242

            It is longer than the Razr. The Razr is 5.1″, Nexus is 5.33″. Not a deal breaker, but definitely longer.

          • Nexus is the longest phone out of razr, rezound and even HTC titan.

          • Reading Compression

            None of them said the phones are too large. You’re reading what you want to read.

        • Lodos

          Yup, the Nexus, Razr  and Rezound all have large bezels. Wasted space.

          • Jordan

            Yes, so much useless space on all these phones. I can’t believe my Tbolt is actually more efficiently designed in terms of physical form. That is sad.

          • Rezound_trumps_Nexus

            Wow, Sammy- you are disappointing us! There is no way I am going to buy a 16 GB, flash-less (yes, if ICS is not compatible with Flash 11-there is not 11.1 coming), over sized phone for $299!!!  
            At this point I am seriously considering the Rezound with its awesone 341 ppi screen (blows the Nexus away)- also 10% better then the second best- i*phone 4S (with a much larger 4.3″ screen), a better camera then the Nexus, removable storage, good pair of Beats headphones (that double as a phone headset and control music volume & track skipping), and pretty good battery life for a LTE phone. There is a good chance I will be picking up the Rezound this weekend after reading this article.  
            The only thing that may stop me is no NFC (as there is a ton of NFC related stuff coming in 2012), but after reading about the upcoming new LTE sim cards, with NFC chips baked in (with Verizon on board), I may take the plunge on the Rezound:
            http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/17/sim-based-nfc-gains-global-support-from-45-mobile-carriers-all/ 

          • Anonymous

            I like when people make up usernames to post one comment.  Especially a comment stupid enough to claim that the Rezound is superior to the Nexus.  Enjoy that awesome screen on the Rezound, I’m sure it makes Sense look amazing!

          • SKAV3NG3R

            i saw what you did

          • Max0442

            Everyone has said that the main advantage the Nexus has over the Rezound is ICS at launch. Besides a larger screen, Bluetooth 4, and NFC, the Rezound is equal to or better in every other department. P3Droid on twitter (tester) was disappointed in the battery life, while most are saying the Rezound is doing pretty well in that departmet. Yes it has Sense, and that’s fine if you like Sense. If you don’t, root and run stock, either GB or ICS. Not too big a deal.

            The fact is this is starting to sound like the Thunderbolt or Bioinc launches. Since Verizon has never really wanted to carry a Nexus device because of the loss of control over it, this may be a way for them to shut up all of the people who want one on their network.

          • Anonymous

            I’m sure everyone also likes the fact that the Nexus will get official OS updates in the future WAY faster than the Rezound, or any other device on Verizon. Not to mention the fact that the Rezound is like 4mm thicker (40ish%) than the Nexus. As for P3Droid’s comment on Nexus battery life, he also admitted to 4GB of LTE data during that run, with screen at 100% just about the entire time. I’m sure the Rezound (1650mAh) beats the Nexus (1850mAh) in battery life, you know, because that would make total sense.

          • Anonymous

            That’s how the theory goes.  However, given the amount of control Verizon still seems to have over this device, I wouldn’t be so certain that their devices get updated as quickly as everyone else’s.

            I’m less concerned about official updates as I have yet to run a phone that runs one.  There’s been tons of leaks on HTC and Sammy phones that come out earlier than any carrier releases them.  The XDA folks do a great job.

          • Anonymous

            Kind of like all the control Verizon has over the XOOM (also stock), which has consistently received OS updates before any other tablet?
            I agree, the folks at XDA do a great job (I first started doing custom ROMS 5 years ago), but there is still something to be said about official updates straight from Google before any other device. Do you really think Google would have given Verizon any sort of exclusivity period in US, without maintaining control? What possible benefit would there have been for Google or Samsung in that deal?
            I don’t think the Rezound is a bad phone or anything, but it’s kind of hard to brag it up over the Galaxy Nexus. Based on what they will be capable of out of the box, it’s really no contest.

          • Emilio Figueroa

            Another thing not mentioned. The Rezound has unofficial support for simultaneous voice and data over both 3g and 4g. It’s not marketed as such because Verizon doesn’t know exactly why it is so. It is, however, because there is two separate radios instead of just one. I mean, don’t get me wrong, the Nexus is a great device, with a very good back-bone (google), but there is no denying what is blatantly there. If the Rezound has ICS then, I’m sure everyone would be all over that. It’s all at the end of the day up to the user that wants to keep the phone for their entire 2-year agreement. 

          • Anonymous

            So, you honestly think that if the Rezound and Galaxy Nexus both launched with ICS on the same day, that people on this site would choose the Rezound? That’s ridiculous.

          • Sp4rxx

            ….but completely possible….

            Especially with the way VZW is slashing all the good stuff from the *originally advertised* Nexus.  The Rezound sounds like a very decent alternative.

          • Anonymous

            Oh, please do inform me what exactly Verizon has “slashed” from another company’s product, and show me these original advertisements or statements. I’m dying to know.

            Other than being currently available, what does the Rezound have, that the Galaxy Nexus does not?

          • Sleepininca

            Flash support for one. Usb mass storage for another. Dual radios for a third. Are you really this clueless? I am all for the nexus……but i also read up on my alternatives. Apparently our have yet to become a smart buyer. Try researching a bit before you bash someone with an honest statement. Oh an VZW is also adding on some bloatware for good measure.

          • Anonymous

            Great, so assuming that Ice Cream Sandwich never has flash support, you would prefer that the Rezound stay on Gingerbread forever? I’ve looked over my choices, and the Nexus is the best by a long shot. Not only that, but this is will be my 6th smartphone purchase since 2004, so I’m pretty sure I know what I’m doing. I’m just smart enough to look beyond stupid crap like dual radios, and understand the importance of a stock experience, regardless of how I might be able to flash custom ROMs that I’ve been doing for almost 5 years now. I take my device out of the box, and not only do I have the stock experience, but I also have a device that about 40% thinner, and has a 15% larger battery.

            Easy decision.

          • Anonymous

            Yep, the G-Nex volume issue has me sold on it.  Superiority at its best.

          • Anonymous

            I wasn’t planning to buy the European version, since I’m in the US. I’ll withhold judgement until I see the same volume issue with the product I plan on buying. I’m not in a huge hurry to buy it anyway, so I’m good.

          • Anonymous

            I hear ya but these issues that keep coming up with the G-Nex in the UK is killing me smalls. I was completely sold on the GN and now, not so much. I’ll be damned to buy the Razr.  Hands-on playing with the Rezound, it is better than I thought it would be (except the Sense about kills it for me…).  In terms of order of updates, I’m sure the GNex will have dibs.  However, this was NOT the case in the last go-around of google phones which updates were given priority not only to the nexus one but the VOLUMES of other android phones sold (Droid 1).

          • Emilio Figueroa

            HTC Rezound has an unlocked bootloader. 4G LTE is not available everywhere and some people want to talk and surf at the same time. Android is all about choice. You cannot negate facts as useless just because you don’t use them. That’s the beauty of open source. Now, comparing the two head on, the Rezound has a higher megapixel rating, which wouldn’t matter usually, but it also has a great sensor to back it up. The screen’s pixel density is also much higher, it is upgradeable to ICS. While Beats audio is completely over priced and overrated, comparing the Droid Razr, the HTC Rezound, and the Galaxy Nexus, who wouldn’t love free expensive headphones with their phone that already beats out the competition? 

          • Anonymous

            You cannot compare an unlocked bootloader to a Nexus device. They are not even in the same game, let alone on the same field. Also, Beats is a gimmick. It’s like those commercials that say, “order now, and we’ll throw in…”. I have to wonder why Verizon chose not to market dual radios at all in the HTC devices that have it? It will be irrelevant though, since VoLTE will allow simultaneous voice/data as well, and I believe that’s still slated to launch next year.
            Anyway, the Rezound is a fine device. Still not a Nexus, and likely won’t have official ICS for some time. The lack of NFC was also a huge deciding factor for me, and I could really care less about an 8MP camera on a smartphone, another gimmick since 5 is totally adequate for 99.9% of users. Companies just know most consumers are stupid.

          • Emilio Figueroa

            NFC is a gimmick, I don’t see many real world applications for it other than Google wallet, which makes me wonder how safe a wireless wallet really is. All I know is anything is hack-able, but a physical wallet is much more safe in my hands than on that is virtual. Nevertheless, it’s all about choice, so enjoy your Galaxy Nexus, when ever that comes out. 

          • Anonymous

            NFC is a gimmick? Looks like someone has some reading to do…

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_Field_Communication

            You are right that anything is hack-able, but what is easier or more probable? Someone hacking your NFC device (20cm max range) or someone stealing your actual wallet or even just your credit card info?

          • Emilio Figueroa

            I’ve read up on NFC, lol, thank you. I do understand your point though, it’s less of an issue with the Google wallet. Nevertheless, the dual-radio is actually not a gimmick for anyone who travels at all or lives in an area with no 4G. VoLTE is still being tested and won’t be deployed until next year. Half of the population still has no 4G, so for those many people, I think they would prefer talk and surf over digital wallets, but who knows, maybe there will be a new Nexus from HTC again and it will have the best of all worlds. 

          • Finally someone gives me a bit of news on simultaneous voice and data over 3g and 4g.  I have a Tbolt and that was the one feature that i was wishing would make it into new phones.

          • Emilio Figueroa

            Haha, no problem. I like the feature as well, it makes it unique, we cannot just rely on 4G LTE’s promise to cover the existing 3G footprint by the end of 2013 because until then, some people might like the option.

          • Anonymous

            well panda likes it and called it a sleeper, and once it has ICS then what will the nexus have over it?

          • Billyrouth2000

            It wont have a bloated sense skin that boggs the phone down. We all know how fast HTC updates their phones dont we it will be the end of next year B4 the rezound will see ICS

          • Anonymous

            well officially it might take that long but there will be plenty of leaks and custom roms=)

          • Anonymous

            You are another sheep. Now shut up go cry in the corner like you always do.

          • Guest

            GO FUK YOURSELF LOSER!!!

          • Anonymous

            Boo hoo hoo this isn’t a moto yet you come troll. Nice try though you little bitch

          • Anonymous

            Keep crying like a baby whore lol lol. Ics and Sammy failed 🙂

          • Anonymous

            Ha sorry to break it to you but moto failed. It is the 3rd best phone behind the rezound and nexus. That screen has nothing on the rezound. Go back to playing WOW in your mom’s basement stupid troll.

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          • Anonymous

            Moto’s display is great and so is the software. RAZR, gs2 the rezound are the third best. Nexus = failed, that garbage takes ugly pics, it lags when you put a live wallpaper, no flash, 16 of storage lol lol lol. Go release some stress with your dog loser like the nexus 🙂

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          • Anonymous

            Yes, when the Rezound gets ICS (what, in 4-6 months?) it will be great. However, it will still be about 40% thicker than the Nexus, lack NFC, and have a 15% smaller battery. Then, what about the next version of Android? I bet we can guess which one will get it first.

          • Angelface77

            Moto’s display is great and so is the software. The nexus failed you that’s why are you crying like a slut. The best devices are razor gs2 bionic and the rezound are tied for third.go release some stress with your dog loser like the nexus 🙂

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          • Anonymous

            How can it fail me when it isn’t even out yet? You’re just a foolish fanboi, hop of motos dick and open your eyes fool. Have a nice day with your razr and maybe go read an article about that? Then again that would be to logical for your dumbass. Peace out girl scout.

          • Alex T

            HAha seriously, nexus is THE google experience phone. For me it’s either this, or iPhone, and obviously im never getting an iphone! Sense and HTC phones are always slow and have HORRIBLE touch responsiveness!! And roms and crap, hardly helps with all the bugs, and it still doesn’t fix touch response. Stock=Best.

          • Anonymous

            That isn’t going to do you any good. The phone still needs an NFC transmitter. So simply adding one of these sim cards to the Rezound isn’t going to give you the NFC capability. Read the article you posted and the comments. One of the users refers to another article that spells this out in greater detail.

          • Anonymous

            Did someone say NFC?

            ZOMG TEH NFC!!!!!!!

          • Anonymous

            lol

          • PaulyD

            I agree, at this point I am either going to just get the Rezound or wait for the Droid Prime (with Samsung’s new 1.5GHz Exynos processor, PowerVR SGX543MP2 GPU, 8MP camera, 2050mAh battery and 4.65″ Super AMOLED Plus HD:

            http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/06/possible-nexus-prime-specs-sneak-out-this-afternoon-this-isnt-the-galaxy-nexus/ 

            -or- 

            The Galaxy S III with 1.8GHz dual-core Exynos processor, 2GB RAM, 4.6″ Super AMOLED Plus HD and 12MP rear camera:

            http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/10/samsung-galaxy-siii-shows-up-with-specs-on-training-slide/ 

            The Galaxy Nexus seems to be getting outdated each day it is delayed.

          • Ronnie

            +1

          • Anonymous

            Yeah, wait for those. Cause like every other phone, those ones won’t get delayed. Just like the bionic.

          • Anonymous

            Just wait for the gs3, if sammy fix their radios and antennas issues, i may get the gs3 to replace my bionic 🙂

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          • Anonymous

            You actually HAVE the Bionic? Sorry to hear that

          • Anonymous

            I always have 2 devices. I have 2 lines. The bionic its fast and it has almost everything that my razor has. They should of made the bionic with a better display, camera and better build quality.

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          • Wmsco51

            Just done exactly that texting from it now and the screen is too narrow %$@#@$%

          • Anonymous

            Where are the sheep now? I bet they are all crying in a corner like little girls. I kept saying that this device will be a fail.

          • Guest

          • you had me up until “good pair of beats”

          • BiggerScreens

            exactly, if they’re going to make these phones larger then put in a larger screen. especially the razr. it has largest bezels all around compared to he other two.

        • Attila S

          it’s look like i am buying the galaxy s ii 

          • Anonymous

            I would have if that was on verizon.

        • Have you ever held the damn phone? No. Have great tech editors held the phone? Yes. Listen to what Joshua Topolsky and others say in that the phone is not that huge, they know what they are talking about because they have experienced using the phone while you are judging off of nothing.

          • Anonymous

            Not to nit-pik, but I don’t think he has held the phone as he reviewed the unlocked GSM version which is significantly thinner and lighter.

          • Anonymous

            Less then half a mm and 15 grams, wouldn’t call that significant.

        • Anonymous

          Like i said razr or g2s is the way to go 🙂 even the rezound will be better than this garbage.

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        • Garthdill

          This phone basically is a 4.3″ screen. The should have gotten rid of the on screen buttons and just mEd the phone 4.5 for everything. The nexus looks lopsided when you have it landscape mode.

      • Andrew

         Ya, I hold my Tbolt just fine with its smaller bezels. So the ones on the Nexus are wasted space. So more news on other 4.3″ screened phones with little wasted space please.

    • Larson

      Honestly, I wouldn’t pay $299 for the 32 GB model since it’s non-expandable. Since I use large files, cloud storage isn’t viable even on 4G or WiFi.

      • Anonymous

        Honestly do you fill up all the space on the phone you have?  If you do… then I understand, but most people do not.

        • zUFC

          Not 32 we dont. but with only 16, it can easily be filled

          • NotRelevant

            I barely use half of the 16GB SD card in my current droid…so I don’t think I’ll have any problem, as I’m sure the most of the owners of this phone will.

        • Zebra

          Between all my music, pictures/recordings, and ROMs/Themes, the 32GB card in my Droid X is almost always full.

          This might be a deal breaker for me. The Rezound is starting to look better and better…

          • Steve

            My card in my Droid X is almost full too.  Memory space is a premium option for me in my next phone.  Despite that, I went ahead and uploaded my entire MP3 collection to Google Music in preparation for the G-Nex due to the lack of an SD card slot…so I can just stream my music instead of play it locally.  If a 32GB version does in fact come to Verizon, it should be enough to make me get this phone despite some of the other rumored shortcomings.

          • Anonymous

            I agree, at this rate the Rezound will have ICS ROMs available for it before GN comes out. With best available ppi screen, better camera, removable storage, not to mention those fancy Beats that come with it.. it may actually be a better option fairly soon. 

        • Larson

          Honestly, I do. Also, your “most people” is based on nothing other than yourself and maybe a few people you know.

          • Jason

            Add on what he thinks the “average user” is. I actually think most of the readers on this site would be considered the average user of Android phones.

          • PDXfrolfer

            The average user is not represented on Droid life, we are the 1%

          • xMrRocknRollx

            Hahaha, best post yet.

          • Mark

            Keep staying on that pretend high horse. I find it funny when people think just they’re the few in the know and better than the average when they’re likely not. YOU and most of the readers here (me included) ARE the average user.

          • Anonymous

            You’re kidding yourself if you think Droid Life represents the average Android user.

          • ChuckDz3

            Still not sure why the importance of 16g to 32g is that big of a deal. Sure I would love to have 32g but with Google’s cloud service what else to you need the storage for? Movies maybe? Idk seems like we get caught up in the numbers sometime rather than practicality. 

          • GotSka81

            That’s simple, for future proofing. Average file sizes get bigger every day. It’s the same principle behind USB drives…I may not need a 32GB USB drive now, but I know I will someday so I’d rather buy one now instead of one now and another one later. On top of that a phone has to last two years, and if it doesn’t have a micro sd card slot it can’t be expanded to keep up with demand. Maybe not everyone needs 32GB, but some will. Frankly I would much prefer a 16GB base with a sd slot.

          • Max0442

            The problem with could service is it uses data. If you’re on wifi, great. If you’re on 3G/4G, once you get past the tier limit (or around 5GB if you’re unlimited) you’re going to get throttled. Add to that Verizon’s been trying to rob people of their unlimited data plans. I even spent an hour on the phone, showing where I didn’t lose unlimited data going to a 4G phone from a 3G, to a CSR and his supervisor. Verizon loves the idea of the cloud, all of the overages mean $ to them.

          • Anonymous

            Cloud storage only works if you have unlimited data and always have coverage.  I’ve been places for longer periods of time with no coverage and flaky wifi at best.  Cloud storage wouldn’t do me any good in those instances.

            The cloud may be a useful tool, but there are also many cases where it either isn’t ideal or simply won’t work.

          • Anonymous

            I have cloud storage for my amazon mp3 files,which seems like a great idea.However, when you play the music through device you usually don’t get the sound quaility

          • Christephor

            Honestly that would be your most people the average teen that walks into Verizon is not going to be filling up 32 gb worth of stuff same goes for the average adult that just walks in and likes the phone. 

          • Anonymous

            if that was the case apple would not still be selling 8 and 16gb iphones. Just saying not everyone is you and not everyone puts their music library( half of which they don’t listen to) or a bunch of hd movies. I have a tablet for movies not a tiny ass screen.

        • Anonymous

          yeah but now with 1080p recording its going to eat alot of space….

        • Anonymous

          Nexus = fail

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    • Mannysaurus

      Huge top and bottom bezels are to ensure that you don’t accidentally hit the screen. Don’t be stupid and follow what everyone else says, use common sense as to why those would be put there. Everything is on the phone for a reason.

      As for the other concerns seem above, they’re rumors. 16GB only? Panda tweeted that 32GB would be available. Not sure about Flash but it’ll get there soon enough. I’m also not sure about MTP but according to Wikipedia it is to ” facilitate the transfer of media files and associated metadata to/from devices, the management of media files and configuration data on these devices, and to allow the remote control of these devices.” Sounds similar to me. I’m not a huge data hogger upper so honestly this won’t affect me much.

      I’m getting the Galaxy Nexus because it is a PURE Google phone. I don’t want a super phone, the Galaxy Nexus is not meant to be a super phone, it’s meant to be a developer device. If you’re tired of Blur lagging up your phone or hate the look of TouchWiz or don’t like waiting 7 months to be caught up on the latest version of Android, this phone is for you. Battery is bad? Expect it, 4G LTE radios haven’t matured yet. Camera is “so-so”? Expect it, it’s not a Nokia camera whose main function is to put pictures up on FaceBook.

      The Galaxy Nexus IS the best Android phone out there.

      • i say the 4S’ camera is better than nokia’s

        • Anonymous

          No.  The N8’s camera is far better than anything Apple has produced to date.

        • Anonymous

          Negative nobody is better than nokia’s camera period. The iphone 4 s has the second best camera and the rezound may have the third best camera. The camera in the razr is pretty good too.

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      • Christephor

        Well said my friend well said

        • Falcon10474

          How is that well said? I can rom ICS on the rezound and get the same, if not better if theses donors are true, experiance

          • Falcon10474

            Doners? Rumors, stupid autocorrect

          • Mannysaurus

            Ice Cream Sandwich isn’t optimized to work with the Rezound’s processor. Ice Cream Sandwich is optimized to work with the Galaxy Nexus in every aspect. That’s why it’s going to be so much better.

          • Anonymous

            You act like it won’t run on the rezound. The dev community makes better roms than google 99% of the time anyway so I wouldn’t worry about that.

          • Anonymous

            You wanted the best operating system idiot. That is what you get lol.

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          • Anonymous

            So it should run just as well as the RAZR then because it has the same family then?

            I don’t buy this argument.  Given the availability of the source code, I’m sure the devs at each company are hard at work optimizing ICS to work well on their device.  It’s not in Google’s or anyone else’s interest to have ICS run worse on other phones.

      • Anonymous

        You said “FaceBook” hah

      • Anonymous

        The GN is another Nexus phone, it’s not any better than the GS2, Razr, Bionic or Rezound, they’ll all get updated in the future to ICS and they all have their pluses and minuses.

        • Anonymous

          We don’t take kindly to that kind of rational thinking ’round these parts

        • Anonymous

          Yes, but for non-romers the Galaxy Nexus will see Android version J for certain (yes, I know I can’t be 100%) and the phones being released today may not.  So if longevity matters Nexus it is.

          • Anonymous

            Big deal.  By then, I’ll already have a new phone that will have it, or get it if it doesn’t already.  I’m sure most geeks here will fit that mold.

            And geeks isn’t meant to be disparaging as I fit that mold. 😀

          • Anonymous

            Where are the cry babies de vitto and 1badass69 lol . Those fools must be scratching their heads right now lol 🙂

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          • Anonymous

            Yes, but I am not sure the majority here really will buy a phone off contract, so longevity matters. Especially for a Motorola device with a locked boot loader. Those devices can’t run a kernel version not put out in an official Rom, at least stop far.

        • Anonymous

          I always have to agree with you bro cause you always have your facts straight. The way i see it the razor the king, gs2 will be second and rezound and bionic tied for third 🙂 Nexus just have the latest software that’s it

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      • Kg2128

        You raise some good points but most of us were expecting a superphone or close to it. These latest rumors if true might be the straw that broke the camels back. 16gb phone for 300 with contract? That is a total ripoff and no sd card to expand it and no usb mass storage (since there is no sd card). First it was 1.5ghz down to 1.2ghz. Then it’s super amoled without the PLUS. Then it’s an sgx 540 (granted heavily overclocked), even the iphone 4s has an sgx 543 which is way better, since when is android supposed to lose on hardware? Now we have the 16gb only with no mass storage issue, hopefully it turns out to be false since there are a ton of false galaxy nexus rumors out there.

        • Anonymous

          MTP allows for simultaneous access of data by both your phone and PC. You can still plug your phone into a PC and transfer files. People with Mac’s may have an issue though as they don’t support MTP.

      • Kg2128

        Forgot to say if they charge 200 for the 16gb I would have no problem with the latest rumors at all. Of course it’s Verizon so that’s not happening.

      • Earleepa

        WAS not is.

      • Exactly. And the only reason the other phones have superior specs is an attempt to cover up the flaws in their skins that cause lagging.

    • Anonymous

      At this point Samsung is on a roll and could screw up a wet dream. 

    • Anonymous

      This is sobering news indeed. 16 gigs only for $299? No usb support? If this is true, this sucks for those waiting for this phone.

      • Anonymous

        I have to agree with you.

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    • KeyboardShortcutsFTW

      Any Droid 4 roundups?

    • Blood

      If only Sony Ericcson would of made the nexus, they make really small bezels.

    • SKAV3NG3R

      this is getting to be like Maury Povich but instead of whos baby is it…its, when will the phone come out.

    • Duder

      Awww look at that.. the Nexus isn’t the greatest thing ever made. I’m laughing at all of you so much right now 😉

      • Anonymous

        I am on the same boat bro lol lol lol 🙂 Nexus = big fail 🙂 I am rocking my flash on my gb 2.3.5.

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    • Clevelandrocks

      Heard a rumor today that the nexus has been cancelled all together by verizon.

      • Your Jedi mind tricks won’t work here

      • You make me ashamed to call Cleveland my hometown with that comment…

    • Apingaut

      Seems the longer we wait the less we want this thing.

    • Anonymous

      Lol, i am laughing so hard right now at the nexus’s sheep 🙂

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  • kliq

    I highly doubt they will charge $300 for a 16GB HD.

    • GJB

      I bet VZW would.  How else are they going to cover their “losses” from not putting in a whole bunch of 3rd party apps?

      • Anonymous

        By selling the razr and rezounds plus the other 20 phones verizon sells that come loaded with bloat.

  • Anonymous

    Amazing

  • Anonymous

    There will be a 32 GB version, I guarantee it. I’ve heard from too many people that it will exist for it not to. If it doesn’t, that’ll be the first time these people have ever been wrong 🙂

    • I often put my trust in the internet.

      • mm777

        i don’t always put my trust in the internet, but when i do i get a 50/50 chance of getting screwed over.

    • I agree they would be stupid not to put 32GB in it. That would be like having a phone like the Razr and have only a 1350 battery with no chance of an upgrade.

    • Anonymous

      299$ for a 16 gig would put the 32gig in a 450-500 price point which Verizon does not want to do.

    • Well, just because some early testers have a 32GB version does not mean the general public would get the it, too. So, I wouldn’t be surprised if it ends up having only 16GB.

  • Dave

    P3Droid is reiterating that the 32GB version will be the consumer’s version and all signs point it…we won’t see the 16 GB version here in the States. I hope he’s right.