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  • Google is paying 97$ per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family! !mj288d:
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  • The Nexus 6 had this exact same problem big time, along with the corresponding Moto X of the same design. There it was an unfixable hardware problem solved by using HDR exclusively. Hopefully the Pixel has a better fix…

  • FWIW, I just went back through my Note 4 pictures. 725 on device going back to 2013. NOT ONE with any type of flare. But surely it’s a software issue…

  • software will retouch this hardware “bug”… but wait for next revision it’s first device, and like test… paid test 🙂

  • So nice that google is right on this problem, meanwhile my nexus 5x can’t run nougat due to the massive battery drain issue that has existed since the fourth developer preview release. I’m certainly not going to spend $ to get a shiny new pixel……

  • This problem exists on all Pixels. It’s the way the glass is flush with the back of the phone. I cut a little circle in some left over dbrand skin (circle just enough to barely cover around the actual lens portion) and it worked. Told dbrand they need to mitigate this asap with a ‘halogate Pixel skin’ lol.

  • I haven’t seen this issue yet either looking at the pictures I’ve taken. Maybe it is a very specific angle or conditions which I haven’t encounter yet. That said the camera is pretty darn amazing. It is so fast and loving the Pixel XL so far.

    Google should just call it the ‘Michael Bay Lens Flare’ effect. LOL

  • This sucks……Still debating on getting the Pixel XL and LG V20 to replace my Note 7……XL with flares and V20 with the rear camera glass shattering…..UGH….

  • I haven’t experienced this issue, but I’m glad Google is addressing it quickly.

  • This reminds me of the voice quality issues on the 6p that were supposedly software but were really hardware related to the noise cancelation speaker.

  • Not mine, cuz even though I ordered a pixel 2 weeks ago……..mine is still in “pre ordered” status. Lame.

  • Like you, I looked through all my shots and only found a flare in one. I did some testing this morning and was able to easily create a flare though. It will appear if you point the Pixel so that a bright light source is just out of frame near one of the corners of the image.

  • I have had the issue, but putting my hand nearby the lens to “block” incoming direct sun light tends to take it away. It sometimes happen on a Sony a5000 camera I have and I solve the issue the same way.

  • Still seems like user error to me. Don’t take shots in atrocious light. The reason no reviewers mentioned it is because it isn’t a real world problem.

    • Or because tech reviewers don’t get outside much. And the ones that do (Tim and Kellen) live in cloudy and rainy Portland, so they still don’t see the sun very often.

  • No problems here. It does seem like Google went more neutral in coloring of photos, vs with my 6p. Saturation doesn’t seem to be so rich. More true to life.

  • On the topic of cameras. Does anyone’s camera make clicking sounds. It seems to be when it’s focusing from near to far, or far to near. Not sure if it’s anything to worry about. Some sites seem to say it will go away.

      • The software isn’t that much different and the difference in lenses doesn’t matter. It’s an issue with both phones that they didn’t fix.

        • Different is different. Doesn’t matter how much. Plus, the issue affecting the Pixel only occurs under certain lighting conditions, not with every photo, or even the majority of photos taken.

          And as an owner of both a Pixel and a 6P, I’ve never encountered this with either of them, so it’s not some glaring defect or missed bug.

          • Which is the same scenario with my 6p. They’re different sensors, that both have a sensor glare issue that has yet to be fixed. It’s an issue on Google’s end.

          • It’s an issue with the cover glass, not the sensor or lens itself. I returned the 6P last year due in part to this issue and picked up a 5X. The 5X does not have this issue despite having the same sensor and lens. The only differences is that the camera cover glass on the 6P and Pixel extends across the entire back of the phone, allowing it to pick up and bounce around a lot more reflections, whereas the cover glass on the 5X is small and similar to other phones.

  • Easy fix…don’t shoot straight into the sun or at 45 degree angle from glaring sun. What happens when you DO want a lens flare??? Then you watch one of the new Star Trek movies…

    • Stupid advice. You don’t need to be in sunlight for this to happen. Just went to take a picture of my cat in my basement and got lens flare. Should I just shoot all my pictures in complete darkness?

      • You have a cat and a basement…and referred to the science of light as it pertains to hitting glass as “stupid”………i’m just going to walk away slowly, knowing that the issue is on the post processing side and glad they’re going to rectify it.

  • LOL HTC

    This is what happens when you dogfood a device in development to a bunch of googlers who never f*cking go outside.

    “Hey boss we never saw this during product testing!”

    “Simon you never leave your mother’s basement!”

    • Yeah, this happens on DSLR an mirrorless lenses that cost hundreds of dollars. When you point a lens with multiple elements at the brightness object in the sky, there’s only so much you can do.

      ETA: I think it’s kind of a cool shot honestly.

    • I think it’s actually nice to see it. I’d like to see a solution where it captures both ways.

  • It’s absolutely a hardware issue. And Google is correct, all lenses have flare to some degree or another. Most manufacturers of camera lenses will, these days, use various coatings on the lens elements themselves to reduce flare (and sometimes practically eliminate it). Know that flare occurs due to bright light sources in an image OR the light rays from that source striking the glass (this is why camera lenses come with or have as an accessory, a lens hood – to block stray light). The sun is the most obvious example. Others are reflections and lights.
    As Google also stated, sometimes lens flare can be an artistic choice and I have one lens which I purposely use to create dramatic flare and ghosting.
    Finally, know that software correction of a lens flare problem will necessarily reduce image quality. Always. There’s no getting around it. Whether that reduction in image quality is noticeable, or worth the trade off, is up to the user. Interesting that it’s only available in HDR mode. To me, that’s actually a good thing as the processing algorithms won’t be applied to ALL images and HDR is best used when there are dark and light parts of an image which is naturally going to be an image where a bright light source is present.

    • Finally someone who gets it. It IS a hw issue and patching via sw WILL degrade the image quality. Google is just trying to avoid the stigma of massive recalls / RMAs. And almost everyone is so blind that they are lapping up the “math magic” bs. Even Android Police didn’t call it out and instead going “hallelujah”. They are acting so defensive when it comes to Google Pixel, that it looks extremely shady. I’m glad that DL called a spade a spade.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8ea7f1ef4a84fb9885cccc28187d02d8d1f4dd412d7ddd1ee5234fcb3230bf69.gif

    • Using HDR on the Pixel is a necessity to get the high quality photos for which it’s being praised.

      • I know right, thank goodness for the instantaneous shutter speed that makes using HDR a non-issue on the Pixel.

    • Oh, I forgot to mention that if an image shows lens flare, then it necessarily has less contrast than the same image without lens flare. Sometimes that’s preferable, sometimes it’s not. SOME of that can be overcome by processing such as HDR, boosting contrast and sharpness, etc. Some can not. Here’s an example of an image (found online) with lens flare and the same image (slightly recomposed) without lens flare. Notice that the one with flare has less contrast and color saturation.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/36697f59916aa36be31fc10d8a0a0e953c74e0269aa63dc2dbbaca30e58462bc.jpg
      Also, I think Google should provide the option to have either image, the one with flare, and the one without, and allow the user to choose to keep either one or both.

  • They also need to issue and update to fix Ambient Display and/or Moves (lift to review notifications)

      • “Lift to Check Phone” Doesn’t exist on the Pixels. It seems like something they forgot to add in

        • Hmmmmmmm.. You’re right. Just picked up my Pixel and my 6P….works fine on the 6p.

          • Yeah, people were asking about that yesterday on here and found out they didn’t have that option.

          • Also having this issue. The only way to view notifications is to power on the device. A bummer after 3 years of useful moto active display notifications. I brought this up to the support and they said it is a known issue that they are actively fixing. I guess we will wait and see.

          • You can turn on the notification light until then as well. Under Settings>Notifications and tap the gear up top

          • Yeah the main point is that a standard stock android feature isn’t working on a pure google phone. A notification light is helpful but a big step back from what android has used for years. And you shouldn’t have to download a 3rd party app to mimic a stock android feature since android 5.0…

          • The notification light is a stock feature. Not a third party app. And in my use over the years, has always been my primary method of checking if I have a notification.

    • Yep, I returned the 6P last year due to exactly this issue. Picked up a 5X and surprisingly the 5X has a lot less lens flares. Or maybe not so surprisingly. The 6P and Pixel have one thing in common… camera cover glass that extends far beyond the cameras themselves and across the entire backs of the phones.

      If you look back to the iPhone 4, when the back of the iPhone was all glass and the camera was flush with the back, you’ll notice that there is still a separator (a little metal ring) and that the camera cover is still a separate piece than the glass on the rest of the back. I suspect Apple had this same issue when developing the iPhone 4 back then and solved it with hardware rather than software.

  • Haven’t had it happen yet, though admittedly most if not all the pictures I’ve taken have been indoors.

  • “The Pixel camera’s lens structure is very highly controlled — this means that all Pixels take high-quality images, but it also means all Pixels have the same flare characteristics.”
    Sounds like a hardware issue.

    • I’m commenting blind here as I don’t have a Pixel, but the idea that it’s an “issue” is erroneous. You have to know the limitations of the hardware you’re using. All cameras/lenses have it. Just work around it, or carry another piece of hardware for that shot.

    • That movie was such a mess from those lens flares, but he seems to have learned his lesson on it, his newer stuff isn’t as crazy with them.

        • Star Wars had maybe a few but I don’t have the patience to sit through New Hope v2 to confirm

          • Google is paying 97$ per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family! !mj288d:
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  • I’ve taken hundred of shots already, and haven’t seem this in any of them. Definitely ducks for the people who’ve had this affect their shots, and hopefully the software fix eliminates it.

    • Having used the camera a lot already, how’s the battery life been? I’m seeing so many mixed results out. I have an S6 now and I’d rather switch to iPhone than have another phone that won’t last me the day with moderate use.

      • It’s better than what i was getting on my 6P, but it’s nothing mind blowing. For my use, as long as i get through the workday and back home, I’m good. On average, i get about two and a half hours of SOT, coming off the charger at 5 am, and i don’t get home until about 12 or 13 hours later. At that point I’ve usually got about 30 – 35% battery left.

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