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  • Why is it that all the suits and ties that are in upper management position cant keep their pant zipped up

  • After his team told him there is nothing more they can do to fix the software and camera issues on the Essential he must have figured this was an easier way out!

  • I’m assuming the details of the incident are rather salacious, or Andy has been a bad boy at Essential, too. Maybe both? Otherwise, why would an investigation from 4 years ago, by his former employer, no less, matter at all right now?

    In any case, if there’s an Essential PH-2, Andy’s role within the company won’t matter to me one bit, and certainly wouldn’t influence my decision to buy said phone.

    • It still matters because if allegations like this are true, he needs to be held accountable for his actions. Also, the increased scrutiny prevents these actions from continuing wherever men like this are now.

      • While i agree people need to be held accountable for their actions, i don’t think that, 4 years down the line at a different company, this should affect Rubin’s time with Essential.

        This situation happened during his tenure at Google, and whether he was fired or walked away, Google investigated and reached a decision about what was going on. Case closed. Unless further details emerge, this just seems like an unnecessary airing of dirty laundry.

  • This domino effect is insane. I saw this and that NBC fired Matt Lauer for similar behaviour in my Google Feed and it’s like, wow, is it really difficult to be a man of so-called “power” and not be a weirdo creep?

    • TO be fair in this instance it doesnt seem to be he was harassing anyone but he was consensually involved with someone on his team and another person complained about that relationship. He was in violation of policy, not specifically harassment.

      • That’s not what’s being reported:

        “Rubin left Google shortly after an investigation found that he had maintained an “inappropriate relationship” with a woman who worked under him and filed a complaint to HR.”

        That doesn’t sound consensual to me.

        • Allegations do not equal incrimination. I will let due process take it’s course. I am not defending Mr. Rubin.

          • That goes without saying, really, and in some of my other comments I’ve expressed that sentiment.

        • Of course that sounds Consensual. The only thing that deemed it inappropriate was the company policy. There’s nothing being reported that even sniffs at sexual harassment.

          • Since the actual nature of the relationship is unknown atm, really all we have to go by is that the relationship was investigated by Google, it was found to have violated their policy, and the woman herself was the one who filed the complaint not someone else.

            If it were nbd and really was a consensual thing by both parties involved, I doubt this be making any sort of waves so there’s gotta be something else here worth such a preemptive action. Regardless, whether true or not, the whole thing is still very much the result of all the other allegations rocking quite a few sectors of the business world.

          • They do file a report as revenge sometimes as a way to stick it to someone. Man or Woman revenge stuff like this does happen…

          • The report says that if he was her superior, they were supposed to declare the relationship and she would be moved in departments. This was knowledge on day one. It was consentual.

  • Sorry to hear about any of his contacts who felt pain and humiliation but am pissed and felt left down by Rubin but who really hasn’t been upfront to begin with since his company’s announcement in May — a pattern? Anyway, this is the end of Essential IMHO. Curious to see if any further development occurs with this phone and the company. I have until Feb 1 to return the $399 fire sale purchase from Amazon.

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