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  • Xioami and one plus also exclusively will also use the 836???? Can you say one plus 5T? Maybe I shouldn’t order the 5 then .

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  • So if the Pixel 2/2XL will be the first phones with the 836 (and should release in Sept/Oct) then the OnePlus device would be a OnePlus 5T with the 836

  • I think this is like the only early Nexus/pixel renders that I actually like. 6p leaks looked like garbage but I ended up loving it.

  • This makes when to buy a phone even more difficult with semi-yearly processor updates.

  • My last few trip to droid life, very sad. Maybe there is an 1950sradio-life site.

  • Snapdragon 836 is a 835. When they make chips and as time goes by they getting better yields usually requiring less power for the same clock.

  • Could these be the phones that support T-Mobile’s new network upgrades… the longer wavelength RF spectrum?

  • I saw something yesterday about the 845. Came off of a document in the Apple case. Saying that it is going to come with ARM cores. I sincerely hope that is not the case.

  • I’ll believe battery usage improvement when I see it. Nexus 6P actual battery failure has really disappointed me.

  • So it’s kind of like last year? With them having the 821 over the 820. Imo, not a big deal, but this pretty much seals the deal that the phone will once again outshine all other Android phone’s in performance thanks to whatever gains the 836 has over the 835 alongside Google’s crazy software implementation.

  • > These reported devices include one from OnePlus

    This is the important news. OnePlus 5t is coming later this year.

  • I don’t understand Qualcomm making a second processor again this year. Seems like a waste of money and resources. Just stick with the 835.

    • I wonder how much of it is just throwing a bone to those mfrs who weren’t able to get 835s in volume b/c of Samsung. Since it’s now 1 higher, then people can have “competition” to Samsung.

  • You fools, why would you buy a phone in late 2017 without an SD836?!? Do you not know that 836 is a higher number than 835???

    • I agree that it would be stupid to make your decision based on such a small thing. However I think the reason these sorts of chips (x+1) is that the manufacturer wants customization and then it gets sold to a few other companies as well to cover the cost and why not. I think the customization something in particular such as better image processing or ai processing. Those two in particular I would guess for this phone. Qualcomm might be putting some 845 optimization in it to test how they are and to make it look better.

    • Well, it would be dumb to spend the same amount of money if you weren’t getting the latest technology. Thought I’m hoping it’s more than performance. (hardware encode/decode h.265) so you can stream 4K Netflix/Amazon and actual implementation of QC 3.0.

  • Note that the source article from fudzilla contains no source. This is complete speculation.

  • At this point these chip updates are about as interesting as watching paint dry. Every year it is the same thing. Upgrades so small they are hardly worth mentioning.

    • Just enough changes that Qualcomm justifies no longer releasing drivers for newer versions of android for their older chips in order to force people to upgrade from perfectly-powerful chips.

      • Doesn’t make me update at all. The chip in a device doesn’t hold much away when I look at a device these days. For the past few years the chips were fine. Heck I was running a 3 year old device that was still as fast as the flagships released this year.

        • I hear you. For me, though, regular security updates are very important. So QC not releasing updated drivers does force me to upgrade. Although, if I’m being honest, I tend to upgrade once a year anyways. Gotta scratch that itch. (Yes, I’m a statistic here. Ugh.)

          • I was big into the security updates as well until I started looking at them. Then I noticed they moat of them are bs and will never effect the average person. I also only will use aosp so all of the security updates are there as well as many security updates to the kernel that most device (even flagships) never even see even in the monthly security updates.

            Now I focus on bootloader status above all else. If I can’t put aosp on it then I won’t use it. Too much privacy invasion otherwise.

          • Yeah but that unlocked bootloader/easily-hacked recovery situation is a security problem in itself. I work in an industry-of-interest to foreign state hackers so I’ve resigned to stop the rooting and rom’ing in order to opt for official security patches on a regular basis.

            I had one of the early-released Cyanogenmod installs on my G1 – been doing this for a while. I think the Nexus 4 was the last phone I heavily rooted/rom’d – been mostly stock since.

            So again, I hear you. I was there several years ago but when the DHS contacts you to say “hey, watch out”, some priorities change. 😉

          • I can understand that. All my devices have to be certified for a few places I work. To the point some oem are even banned from being on the property. So I hear ya there.

            Even those security patches are a bit behind. Mainly the kernel ones as most devices seldom really see a kernel update.

            The biggest issue with security and the unlocked bootloader is someone getting access to the device. Which as long as you are careful and take some precautions then it’s not a worry. An example is i can’t be more then 3 feet from my phone without my headset and watch alerting me. Not that I really need that but an extra step never hurts.

          • Yup. It’s all about risk assessment. I choose the attack vectors that require a higher level of sophistication than 60 seconds with the device to trivially install keyloggers/backdoors.

            The way I figure, if China targets me, I’m hacked no matter what. But they have to target me with real effort and not slipping a $50 to somebody who can get physical access to my phone for a minute to flash something on there real quick in TWRP. I want to at protect myself from the novices as well as the sweeping attacks. In the end, I have nothing interesting enough for China to target me individually.

            Lastly, while we have some incredibly talented kernel devs in our community, I’m not sure I trust them when it comes to security (I don’t trust many when it comes to security – I know the limits of when I cannot trust myself). Sure, they may put in some security patches. However, I don’t necessarily believe that they have the experience and training to fully understand some possible vulnerabilities that they’re introducing. This isn’t a dig at anybody – and I appreciate their work and all. But in my mind, it seems it’s at best a lateral shift rather than a substantial improvement. And you still have essentially a wide-open System partition at that point (via recovery & friends).

            Don’t take this as judgement or anything else. I’m simply sharing the rationale behind what took me to this conclusion. I believe you understand – mostly sharing for others, honestly. I suspect you know pretty much all of this and there’s no new info for you here. 😉

          • Agreed. If a couple try like China or even the US for that matter wants the info on my device they would get it. Part of the reason I am still a paperwork kinda guy. Nothing really important is kept on my device.

            The only kernel devs I trust are the ones that keep merged with the upstream Linux kernel from kernel.org. These are the most updated patches made by the lead Linux kernel developers. The ones that have earned the trust. Other then that I only trust myself and normally look over every single commit added. Mind you I also build the OS for my own device. So I know everything that is going into my device.

            I do understand this completely. Not taking anything badly. Seldom can one have a conversation from 2 different views and it be a civil one without name calling or the such.

          • Ahhh, so those are skills I lack. I am a developer but with very different technology and it would take a lot of time to ramp myself up to be able to vet code like this. I can do distributed enterprise cloud architectures and web development all day (well, I *do* do it all day), but not so much OS, kernel, etc. I’d trust myself even less than the more well-known kernel devs in the Android community. 😉

          • I too look at unlocked bootloader as my number 1 concern I’ll pay more for a phone that I can do what I want to and has a good development community. And I will upgrade depending on how the community moves so I have the most choices available to me

          • The community means nothing to me. As just have an unlocked bootloader will not be a sure thing that developers will pick the device up. That I rely on only myself for.

          • Security updates are almost never dependent on QC updates. They’re usually issues with the OS or libraries, not drivers.

          • Yes and no. The monthly updates, you’re correct.

            The QC updates are more with about kernel-level drivers and those prevent/impede mfr’s from releasing OS-level updates. But with those OS-level updates come additional security improvements as well. I was lumping all of that together in my comments about security – not just the monthly updates.

            So you are correct but my vague choice of words mean something slightly different.

        • Browser speeds and camera load/shot times are the only things noticeably faster between my XL and OPO.

  • It doesn’t matter to me. When they end support for the 835 the 836 will likely reach EOL at the same time. As for performance, the 821 didn’t seem much better than the 820 (if at all) because they chose to use the same clock.

  • Meh. Don’t care about the soc update, care about the battery size.

  • If the pixel 2 XL is made by LG, I’m going to have a hard time telling myself it’s ok to buy LG hardware. I just need something soon because this 6P of mine is on its last legs.

    • Yup. Love my 5X (am I the only one?), but after dealing with a bootloop, I can’t see spending top dollar on an LG.

      • If you can buy it from the Google Store, then I’d be less worried. They have been *very good* at supporting their customers, even with out-of-warranty devices.

        I just had a very good experience with them where I had a Pixel with a spontaneous LCD crack (it was literally just sitting on the dining room table, good one second, cracked 5 minutes later when picked up) that they treated as a “defect” rather than “damage”. The only odd thing was that there was no glass crack, just an LCD crack beneath the glass. I had already set expectations that they’d let me know how many hundreds of dollars it would take to fix it but instead they offered to send a new (refurbished) phone to me free of charge.

        I had another experience after I bought my Pixel. I sold my N6P & my wife’s N5X on Swappa and within two months, the buyer started getting bootloops on both (about a month apart). Even though both were out of warranty, Google even replaced both phones for that person after contacting me to make sure it was okay by me (i.e. not stolen phones).

        They really do bend over backwards to help their customers, so that would alleviate any of those LG concerns for me. *IF* you can buy from the Google Store. Seriously, I wouldn’t consider buying anywhere else, even if it was $50 cheaper.

      • You might be. That phone is pretty bad. Only phone I ever owned that vibrated my arm, from fingertips to elbow, when having the volume turned up. For those that haven’t heard a 5x… it isn’t loud, clear, crisp, or anything like that. It’s just a crappy speaker stuck in with zero thought behind build quality. Kinda like the rest of the phone.

        • So if you buy a Pixel 2 XL and it’s like that, you should obviously return it and get your money back. This is a very convenient process at most places. If you think it’s that bad, don’t keep it. Simple as that.

          Our experience with a N5X was much better, though we kept ours in a fairly tough case.

    • My 6P is like new again after I replaced its battery due to the early shutdown issue. I can see myself using it for another year at least if I need to. I’m looking at the Z2 Force though if it comes to T-Mo.

  • Please make that front grill a speaker, please make that front grill a speaker…

    • In reviewing the Z2 Play, I found it to be a MUCH better implementation for a speaker than a bottom firing jobby. Way nicer to use and listen to audio that way.

      • iPhone 7+ with stereo sound is great. Too bad Samsung didn’t do it with the S8.

        • I’ve found the Samsung speakers in their mobile offerings (Galaxy Nexus, 2012 Nexus 10 and 2013 Nexus 7) to be anemic at best. My OG Droid, OG Moto X and 2015 Moto XPE all had good sounding and LOUD speakers in them by comparison.

      • So true. It’s actually the ONLY thing I think is better about the 6P. I absolutely love my pixel, but I’m always reminded how much I miss the dual front facing speakers from my wife’s 6P. I really thought it’d be a no-brainer for Google….give us back our front facing speakers!!!

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    • If the 2016 HTC 10 could do it, and the 2017 HTC U11 did it (with improvements to boot) along with a bottom firing speaker…there’s really no excuse. Like, no excuse other than they just didn’t want to spend the extra time and money implementing it.

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