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Motorola Kills Custom Webtop Software in Ice Cream Sandwich? RAZR Turns to Tablet UI When Docked

 

The leaked Ice Cream Sandwich for the DROID RAZR that came out over the weekend has given us a view of Motorola’s new “Webtop 3.0 beta.” In previous versions, Webtop offered one of the most frustrating laptop-inspired experiences you could find. It was a nice idea in theory, but after a number of failed attempts to deliver an experience that could actually replace a laptop, Motorola seems to have completely changed up their strategy.

In a video posted to Youtube of a RAZR running the leak and then docked to a Lapdock, we can see that Webtop has essentially become the tablet UI version of Ice Cream Sandwich. It’s similar to what we saw with Asus and the Padfone. Since Android 4.0 was made for any size screen, all you need is a switch of sorts to toggle the phone UI to a tablet UI. That is apparently all that Moto is doing now in 3.0 beta.

Through this brief clip, you can see that the mini-phone view on the left side is gone, Firefox is no longer the default browser, you have an app drawer, notifications in the bottom right, navigation buttons in the bottom left, and everything else you would expect from a tablet experience.

To get a better understanding of what we mean, jump past the break. 

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  • Edrian Jose Quintos

    omg they should make a tablet for this thing.. i mean padphone! if it cost 100 euro or 150 euro i might buy one

  • reporterguy

    i have an issue… i am a tv reporter and when i plug in a usb card i need to look at video… while i am looking at video i also need to write down what i am hearing on the video.. i just upgraded my droid razr with the ice cream sanwhich and used the lapdock and it wont allow me to have two screen up at once….? any help?

  • http://www.facebook.com/mllora Mitchell Llora

    I loaded a leaked ICS rom with Webtop 3.0 beta on my Razr Maxx, got a HD dock with 3 USB ports, a KVM switch, and a micro hdmi to VGA adapter and hooked it all up.

    [youtube]x_ql_nR9Rs0[/youtube]

    [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ql_nR9Rs0&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/url]

  • Booboolala2000

    Got the lapdock 100 today to use with my RAZR Maxx. This combo is great. Am using more than my GNEX and has fewer to no force closes. Really surprised at how much I am loving this. That 3.0 update looks pretty good too.

  • Motosurf

    This is the same technology as Asus’ Padfone

  • Guest

    All Moto did was steal somebody else’s work.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbm0JhGVxCA

  • Taglogical

    The Lapdock is amazing. The Webtop is clunky, but still cutting edge. This is exactly where I saw Moto going once ICS was on their devices.  I expect every other manufacturer to follow suit on their flagship ICS phones.

  • Mr_Bucket

    I just ordered a laptop dock the other day for $80 so hopefully this fixes some or most of the problems it had before. The one thing I’m not so sure about is losing a full browser (I know it was slow but it was a full browser) so I’ll be adding Canonical’s Ubuntu for Android whenever I can.

  • JaredCarlson

    If this is released along with official razr ics, it would definitely change the difference between me getting the razr and the nexus.

  • http://www.DavidPat.com David Pat

    This is going to run sweet on ARM A15

  • ocdtrekkie

    This was the obvious direction to go, and Motorola isn’t stupid. Gingerbread couldn’t support this, ICS can. Motorola was thinking ahead… as usual.

    • Taglogical

       Exactly.

  • Joseph Collins

    Well this would make my Asus Transformer and dock obsolete.

  • Josh Groff

    Could also use swappa, drop 400-500 off contract for a g-nex and save your upgrade for the next nexus.

  • afwafawfw

    This is awesome!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Josue-Aristy/540455542 Josue Aristy

    Excellent, I hope Atrix gets ICS soon!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000529864709 Angel G. Olán

    If the Lapdock has it’s own integrated web browser, instead of using the phone web browser, it would be bad ass. Cause using the phone web browser uses up a lot of the phone RAM which causes the app to crash cause of  Overload RAM usage which sucks! 

    • Dan-O

      At least you were able to fool Hulu into thinking you were a desktop

  • ddevito

    That’s flippin sweet. 

    Want.

  • XvierX

    Maybe this is another reason Vz has taken so long to get ics pushed ota. They were keeping themselves busy getting webtop revamped. I guess this helps make the wait a little more worth it.

    Not rilly

  • Asimoalex
  • guest

    I’m on my 500 right now.  I am looking forward to ics, just to see if I can get more functionality.  Thats my biggest disappointment.  Hey Droid Life, Once we have ics, please provide some ideas regarding the lapdock.  thxs

  • Danielcee3

    download chrome use itas main browser

  • Paul

    Sounds good. Really don’t care for the Firefox browser, so I won’t miss it.

  • bbbbbb

    i would like to see someone hack together a padfone-like experience with a usb touch-screen adaptor

  • Shgysk8zer0

    I was a pretty big fan of webtop, though my only experience was on my brother’s phone. The UI wasn’t well designed (looked like an over-sized Windows 7), but the idea was good.
    I’m concerned about the whole tablet interface idea. On the lapdock, that works well enough, but I liked it for being able to connect to any HDMI TV. A tablet interface just isn’t meant to be that big, nor should it be used with mouse and keyboard, in my opinion.
    As far as Firefox/Chrome, I wish we had a choice on the matter. Firefox’s biggest flaw, as far as webtop, was that it wasn’t updated. They put in the version just before memory issues were taken care of.

  • Matt_D010

    Am I the only one who was stuck on the fact that Minecraft music was playing in the background? 

  • Spunker88

    Sounds like a good idea, also remember that Ubuntu is coming out with its own webtop which will be open source and doesn’t require a custom kernel as it shares Android’s.

  • http://www.ericschuetz.com Eric Schuetz

    This is a great idea from Motorola!  I didn’t understand why they didn’t use Chrome as the UI previously, but this is so much better than that.  Android 4.0.x is proving its versatility right there.

    • Darthseph23

       They couldn’t… Chrome only works on ICS… and is still in Beta.

      • LiterofCola

        Speaking of Chrome, how is it compared to Dolphin?

        • Josh Groff

          I’ve tried the beta since release to about a month or so ago, it’s pretty solid, but since dolphin is available to almost everyone, it’s better.

  • KevinC

    give me a phone i can dock into a “tablet”.  The tablet piece would just be a screen and battery, everything else would run from the phone.

    • Darthseph23

      This is the ASUS Padfone… no?

  • Danny

    Touch screen dock would be a awesome.

    • Edrian Jose Quintos

      so true!!!.. i wish they would make one.. asus has the padphone.. so why cant they do it..?

  • Mecevans

    Isnt jellybean supposed to add more webtop features?

    • KreeTerry

      we dont know, its not out yet lol

    • KevinC

      more webtop features?  AOSP Android doesn’t have ANY webtop features currently.

  • http://twitter.com/teardropcity teardropcity

    I am a webtop user with the lapdock 100, although I don’t use it all that much, because of some of the wonky functionality of it. Taking away Firefox, which was the only useful thing about it, is a bit of a drag to me. Would love it if they replaced it with a desktop version of Chrome, ala the Chromebook.
    This new “webtop” mode, is really just a tablet mode, which does not work as well, in an touch screen environment.  But I imagine, the devolpment time that moto was putting in, was not really worth it, and this new method is just one less thing to have to update

  • shr1k3r

    brilliant!

  • Scooterman1

    The full Firefox was great though. It supported Flash.

  • Needs a new phone

    Give us news on the Droid Fighter and the Incredible 4G!

    • Chris Dobles

      NO! Shoo go away before I call the cops.  *mutters* friggin peasants..

  • bjn714

    All the blur haters need not bother anymore. This is barely changed from stock ICS and this tablet mode is nice looking and will be awesome once Chrome gets updated to display in tablet mode on it so it will have tabs…

    • jroc74

       Dont worry….they will just find something else to hate on…..

      “never mind what haters say, Ignore ‘em ’til they fade away ..”

  • 11knives

    Upgrade available on the 4th. Trying to decide if I should get the Razr Maxx or G Nex. This seems pretty useful. Only thing holding me from going with the razr is the locked boot loader. Although I do love the huge battery! Decisions decisions…

    • Jeff Creemer

      Go with the Maxx. The GNex has signal issues and the battery doesn’t last long. You’ll still have half a battery left at the end of the work day with the Maxx. The stock ROM is great enough that you won’t really need to load a different ROM on it. Root is good enough.

      • 11knives

        I’m a flashaholic so stock is just never enough for me. The G Nex dev support is amazing, but the battery and signal issues worry me too

        • Droidzilla

          If you need to flash ROMs, get the GNex. There will be no substitute. I’m a happy RAZR owner who used to flash the hell out of my OG Droid, but I simply don’t feel the need to on my RAZR. Heck, I haven’t even rooted it (haven’t had a need to). That said, if you really like to change it up via ROMs, do yourself a favour and just get the GNex.

          • jroc74

             I rooted my RAZR. I havent rooted my Rezound yet. And I rooted my RAZR for the root apps….no ROMs.

            Rooting, running custom ROMs on a phone for fixing basic issues was needed in 2009, 2010. Shouldn’t be needed as much now. 

          • Josh Groff

            I rooted my Bionic just to de-bloat it, found a few decent ROMs but stock rooted is fine by me.

        • Jacob121791

          If you are a flashoholic then you will be fine. I have had the leaked 4.0.4 radios on my GNex for a while and have had no signal issues since. Plus if you get the semi-extended battery for like 20 bucks battery life is fine. Both are great choices, it just depends on what you need…..

      • MKader17

        Been going 9 hours with 60% left. Oddly enough, the only time I experience “signal issues” is when I’m on the phone with AT&T customers.

        • jroc74

           Everyone I called or every where I went that had reception issues must have been an AT&T user, area. Especially in weak areas…the G Nex isnt so reliable.

          RAZR was the best, Rezound was next. Actually…the Rezound I have and G Nex I had were about even for annoying data issues and so so call quality.

          Whats funny….AT&T has better data reception in my area. So much that me getting a data plan opn my PS Vits might push me to get a phone on AT&T.

      • r0lct

        IMO the only reason to go Maxx is the battery life.  It’s about double the GNex.  If the lower battery life doesn’t scare you off then the GNex is the better hardware.

        • Josh Groff

          Nex has extended battery options, Motorola has the best radios. Signal is the main reason to go Motorola (i.e. if you live out in the woods or a place with notoriously bad reception.)

    • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

      My Gnex battery lasts nearly two days (around 36 hours) on the 2100 mah battery, around 26 on the stock). Just an FYI if you get pounded with OMG LOL BATTERYLIFE IS AMZIN ON MAXX HERP DERP. You should decide on other factors… like dev support…

      • 11knives

        I’m also afraid of a G Nex predecessor to be released a few months down the road. I’d be kicking myself for the next 2 years
        lol

        • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

          I’m really happy with mine. I moved from Eris>Thunderbolt>Nexus. No issues whatsoever. I prefer the dev community over locked down stuff (razr) and I was tired of overbloaty sense (rezound), so that’s how I made the decision. :P
          Do what you want of course!

      • kixofmyg0t

        I would really like a screenshot of your battery stat for proof. 

        • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

          I have had longer, but I honestly don’t want to look for it. I have too many screenshots in dropbox and scattered around my computer. 
          Here it lasted for about 1/2 the second day. Wifi, yes. Custom kernel, yes (glados). Rom, yes. AOKP 29. Autobrightness.
          That’s about 37 percent left in the screenshot.

          • kixofmyg0t

            As I suspected, you barely use your phone at all.  I get in the same ballpark as you on my DX when I barely ever use it. 

            Oh btw this is with the stock 1500mAh battery. 

          • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

            Sorry. I can’t use my phone while I am sleeping.

          • kixofmyg0t

            You used ur phone almost as much while you were awake it looks like. 

          • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

            If I agreed with you, then we’d both be wrong.

          • kixofmyg0t

            You made a smartass comment, I fired back with a equally smartass comment. That is all. 

          • Lulx

            you want battery life and 4g?  try the droid charge. no wifi and 4g all day, just saying.  not saying the charge is a better phone at all, but i do get great battery life 

          • kixofmyg0t

            You don’t use it that much either. More than kimir I’ll give you that. I havn’t really heard too many bad things about the Charge(it’s not a DROID anymore…just so you know)…..then again I only know one person with one.

            Well since we’re now all posting pics of stuff we never use and claim great battery life I present my Atrix, which is now my MP3 player and digital camera(go ahead and laugh, the Atrix takes pics that rival the i*hone 4). I win.

          • Josh Groff

            Airplane mode w/ WiFi works better, used my old Atrix for 2 days solid for mp3 and some HD gaming (like 2 hours per day)

          • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

            How bout no.

        • Suck it

          Watcha gonna do now?!

          • kixofmyg0t

            Umm remain unimmpressed with his supposed “nearly two days” of idle time battery life. Why?

          • Suck it

            Because I’m pretty sure that someone else other than I can’t stand the constant nexus bashing. It’s really not that bad.

          • kixofmyg0t

             Well I can’t stand the CONSTANT bashing of anything that isn’t a Galaxy Nexus. It’s really not that great.

          • Suck it

            Whatever. I was just trying to point out the useless arguments you always spawn.

          • kixofmyg0t

            Not always, and if it wasn’t for the legion of “ZOMG TEH NFC!!!!” hipsters bashing every single phone simply because it’s not a Samsung or a “Nexus”..and I use that term lightly since you guys don’t actually get updates…..well at all actually LOL. I don’t have a problem with the phone itself. I actually think it’s a great phone hardware wise, it’s just the zealots that still continue bash everything else because they have this “elitist” mindset. 

          • jroc74

             Exactly…

            Its a 2 way street…lol.

            Neither one if good IMO…but I am a lil biased towards moto. Especially with all the hate they got, get. I root for underdogs.

            Thats also why I wanna see the G Nex get its reception issues fixed. I root for the underdog.

        • STiK

          GSM Version may last 2 days.. No way the LTE with LTE enabled does.

    • jjrudey

      In my opinion, I would rather have the Galaxy Nexus. But it’s up to you on what you need in a phone, you can’t really ask other people what you should get unless you’re trying to be a showoff. 

    • BSweetness

      I had the Galaxy Nexus for a month.  Loved most everything about it…except for the fact that it had lousy reception on voice and data.  Even in areas with incredibly strong signal, it would constantly drop voice and data.  I went through four of them, all with the same issues.

      Switched to the RAZR MAXX a week ago.  I should have went with the MAXX to begin with.  It’s one of the best phones I’ve ever used, if not the best.

      If you’re into roms, doing a lot of customizing, and wanting to be as close as possible to the cutting edge of Android software, go with the Galaxy Nexus.  It really is a great device.  It’s just not that great of a phone.  If reception, call quality, and battery life are of the utmost importance for you, go with the MAXX.  Personally, I love stock Android and being able to load custom roms.  But I’m having less and less time to spend on those things anymore.  Now what matters the most for me is having a reliable signal and battery life.  The MAXX is by far the better device for those things.

      • Josh Groff

        I chose the Bionic, same reasons, and the slightly lower clock speeds should preserve a little more battery life. Still has a few pretty nice ROMs to mess with, and the extended battery puts it on par with a MAXX. Plus the drastically lower price helps.

    • Darthseph23

      I don’t get why everyone keeps saying that the Razr has no development as a platform.  You have options in ROMs just like any other device – Axiom, AOKP, Gummy, IC3Razr, right now that I know of and MIUI is coming.

      Unless your really into flashing Kernal tweaks and heavy mods, you can still do and get by with the Razr.

      Sure, it’s easier and less risky on the GalNex because it’s designed for it, but both phones have dev communities in my opinion.

      • jroc74

         Most might not know about the RAZR and Bionic dev community cuz they dont care enough to find out.

        What even funnier is the dev version of the RAZR came n went….lol. Iyts not even on ppls; radar anymore. It doesnt really matter for folks that like their RAZR enough to get one, keep one.

  • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

    Honestly, who has one of those docks?

    • bjn714

      I imagine it will work the same with the little web top adapter as well.

    • Jeff Creemer

      I had one, but I sold it after using it a few times because it just wasn’t that useful. I was hoping I could use it for work, but it would only come in handy if you were accessing a Citrix server. 

    • longcat

      I do. Picked one up for $80 new the other day thanks to droid life for the tip. :)

    • Mikeg1969

      I do and actually the best thing about it was the Firefox “desktop class” browser.  It was truly a desktop browser and worked great, other than that the whole webtop experience was pretty awful.

      • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

        Ouch. That sucks.

      • Zooninshen

        except that it wasn’t optimized for the environment at all so it couldn’t load crap.  Even on 4G, the load times were horrible.  Android browsers were faster.

      • Droidzilla

        Let’s just hope a distro of Canonical’s Ubuntu/Android comes out for the RAZR.

  • Lulx

    chrome beta does not work well period.

    • gorkon

      Not my experience….

    • WickedToby741

      Keyword: “beta”

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/PP2KC2NKYXJ5AUNAJWRZTBRPUA Matty G

    Wait…Motorola did something that *gasp* makes sense?

    • sc0rch3d

      no no no…you missed the point. htc is still not making sense. motorola has finally got some focus after being such a blur.

      • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/PP2KC2NKYXJ5AUNAJWRZTBRPUA Matty G

        Damn you put a lot of effort into that one…I like it haha

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10602828 Mike Hilal

        Zing!

      • eddieonofre

        Bazinga

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      • jroc74

        + 1…that was funny…lol.

      • LiterofCola

        That was pretty good

    • MotoRulz

      Nooo.. they did’nt make sense they made Moto Blur.. LOL

    • KreeTerry

      I just couldnt resist

      • evltwn

        whoa!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000529864709 Angel G. Olán

      ****If the Lapdock has it’s own integrated web browser, instead of using the phone web browser, it would be bad ass. Cause using the phone web browser uses up a lot of the phone RAM which causes the app to crash cause of  Overload RAM usage which sucks!****

      • afwafawfw

        Hey, study how the lapdock works, there’s still no internals 1 year later.. Phone RAM is the only RAM there is.