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Motorola Releases Initial Ice Cream Sandwich Update Timeline – DROID RAZR, RAZR MAXX, Bionic, and DROID 4 Still Being Evaluated

Motorola updated their timeline for device updates this morning, finally revealing their plans to push Ice Cream Sandwich. So far, the list is not going to excite any of you. As far as U.S. devices go, none of them on Verizon have specific details and are currently “in evaluation.” You will see that the Atrix, Atrix 2 and Photon 4G will all receive Android 4.0 in Q3, but the RAZR, RAZR MAXX, Bionic, DROID 4 and almost any other device tied to Big Red has not been given an expected rollout date. In fact, those non-VZW phones are all in development while the ones you all care about are still in the “planning” phase.

Why is that? Tough to tell. We were all hoping that the RAZRs and the Bionic would see this major update first since they were released just before Ice Cream Sandwich went live. Q3 though for many of these? Seems so far away. Then again, Moto did provide an outlook into how they update phones which we calculated to be about 6 months. I guess that would put us right around the end of Q2 or early Q3. Someone figure out why the Atrix series and the Photon would be up first ahead of the DROID brand. Carrier, maybe?

Hoping to know more very soon. 

Via:  Motorola

  • Droidstreetz

    Google bought Motorola mobile…why do we not have ics updates now…they could sale Alot more razrs & bionics if they did…hurry up already!

  • braunzini

    last time I get a motorola

  • Justice

    Sad state of affairs. I work for a very large law enforcement department and as an IT approval member I plan to suggest we move away from moto if we don’t see an ICS update soon. Procurement of devices and annual contracts I’m sure should count as some kind of leverage.

  • Myfacetwitterbookspace

    I would think evaluation & planning means that they already developed it and are evaluating the device and planning a date for Q1 like originally planned. I hope, at least.

  • Bemused Observer

    Bottom line, the consumer was led to believe that the operating system that would make their very expensive piece of advanced hardware do what everyone expected was coming early in the new year.  This information affected the purchasing decision for many people.  Failure to deliver on this and make delivery at all seem questionable is a huge failure.  Smart phone users are competitive and demanding.  If customers don’t get what they pay for, they forever see it as a black mark on the experience making them leery of future purchases.  Saying that customers should expect long waits after not seeing ICS delivered in a timely manner is simply a reflection of the cynicism of being burnt with everyone else who bought into this expectation or just plain cynicism.

  • Thanks Thanks thanks Motorola! Thanks for giving ICS support for the original Atrix4G!

  • Anonymous

    I think I read between the lines here and figured it out. 

    Evaluation = “We here at Motorola are evaluating different fixes to disable current root methods”

    Planning = “Verizon is trying to plan how many programs the consumer will need to enhance their mobile experience (and make them a ton of money).”

  • Bsturk510

    Im sick of waiting. I could do siri and not have to

  • Theriem3

    Calm the f_CK down…..do some reading before jumping off the ledge. Evaluating and Planning includes carriers not wanting to disclosure a date at this time. Verizon apparently do not want to give a tome table ….probably due to hurting sales or getting a sh!t load of complaints April 2nd.

    I’m sure Razr AND Bionic will have update same time frame as the international Razr

  • Anonymous

    Well I hope Moto big wigs read these boards and learn something….The consumers who are shelling out hundreds of dollars for in contract phones, hoping to have some backing from the company for atleast half of the contract, then release numerous phones only a month after each other only show they care about $$$ and not for the consumer. But it is the consumer who keeps these companies going, but this consumer has had enough of Moto. So I just gave you my last $ for your products since there are more companies who do care about their customers. Moto..Kiss My A$$

  • Tjz

    Everyone should be forced to run base android… freaking skins -_-

  • Jeremy Jones

    lol Nexus FTW

  • Dolphfins2000

    This is why people root & flash. f*ck motorola!

  • I want to swear off Motorola completely after I made the mistake of buying the Droid 4 as my OG update, but knowing the Google purchase will most likely happen, they probably are going to have some type of advantage, no matter what Google is saying. (But not for the D4 obviously)

    • Return it! You got 10 days or something. 

  • Sporttster

    Moto will be the last one out with ICS. Screw em…gonna go with the dev ROM when it’s ready to go which I’m positive will be LONG before these bozo’s get anything out. I swear, never again buying anything MOTO. If there’s a way to tick their customers off, they’ll find it….

  • Anonymous

    *shrugs* I guess since at the time of release the Atrix 4G was a big time phone being the first dual core with Tegra 2. It’s almost reaching its 1 year birthday so I guess before updating that timeline they have been working on its development for awhile. Something tells me I’m wrong, but just a guesstamation shot in the dark.

  • Travis H

    this is indeed the last time i buy a droid if moto keeps them locked like this…

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately as a Bionic owner I don’t think “evaluation and planning” means negotiating with the community devs who just did most of the work for them. Maybe it’s time to finally root this thing and dive into the ocean of custom ROMs.

    • Anonymous

      Dive into the ocean of custom ROMs? I’m on the brink of calling Verizon and asking for a good explanation or a swap to a Nexus. This is ridiculous. I shouldn’t have to ROM my phone to get the latest update (and if you’re going to make us do that, UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER!!!), especially when there are devs out there that have everything working except the camera. And that’s WITH having to deal with the locked bootloader. Tell me please why is it that dev’s who take time out of their personal lives and get paid with donations can have a fully functioning ICS build done in OVER HALF A YEAR sooner than dedicated, likely highly paid Motorola engineers can? I really wish I could have waited for the Nexus, but when the screen died on my OG (another failing Motorola product, imagine that!) and I still had unlimited data, I just had to go with what was out there and that was the Bionic. No Rezound, no RAZR, and certainly no Galaxy Nexus. Severely disappointed.

      • If you dont have a 4g phone already, even with a defective product they wont give you a galaxy free for it. unless you are still under the 10 day thing. 

  • Poker_vol

    Could the delay for Verizon devices have anything to do with Verizon possibly promising Samsung a certain period of time of exclusivity for ICS on their network if they made the Galaxy Nexus for Verizon? Otherwise, I see no other reason why GMA Moto devices are getting it, but not the Verizon versions. My two cents.

    • Theriem3

      Exactly…..if these idiots would read, they’ll see that Evaluation and development included carriers (Verizon ) not wanting to disclose a date

  • jake creed

    this is why google needs to give sanjay the boot!  he released too many variants… instead of the droid 3 being 512 ram and not lte, release an upgrade droid 3 that has everything the droid 4 has and release the droid 4 in a year or more… merge the x, bionic and the razr into one phone and make it lte.  google also needs to step in and tell their partners to release only 2 or 3 phones a year and make them upgradeable until at least the next os update…i’ve own a G1, D1 and now a D3 and I love my android experience but this is BS!

    sanjay is greedy he doesn’t believe in stock even tho stack android saved moto and he’s into releasing multiple devices then he has high price point, he killed the xoom by releasing it at the ipad price point.  its absolutely insane that devices released in 2011 cannot get ICS… if blur is the issue then get rid of it…
    this has pissed me off so much when my next upgrade is on i’m going to consider an iphone & I GREATLY DISLIKE IPHONES or i’ll get a nexus even if it means leaving verizon unless google fires sanjay and cancels everyone of his crap plans and goes stock…

    • Anonymous

      As much as I would like that to happen (because I definitely see where you are coming from) Google buying out Motorola was a patent only standpoint and nothing more.. I doubt we will see any change in management at Motorola.  

      • jake creed

        I read a few weeks ago, google has his replacement ready from the android team but they were waiting on approval to buy moto before replacing Sanjay.  I’m hoping that is true now that they’ve gotten approval.  The android team prefers stock so i’m hopeful they make moto devices stock.  Sanjay must go.

    • Thanks for that well thought out, not at all entirely ignorant of whats really going on, wall of text.

      • jake creed


        • Ah did I strike a never? Sorry I become obnoxious when I sense people talking out of their butts.

          • jake creed

            You clearly are an idiot.
            1. Sanjay believes overlays are good, no carrier wants stock. He said so a month ago & it was reported here on DL.2. He believes volume releases make more money. again same interview. Hence the multiple variants each with their own special brand of issues and totally screwing several droid from moto owners.3. Since the D1, Droid from Moto has gone down in terms of user experience under his watch.Sanjay sucks and needs to be replaced.

            Lastly, stfu.

          • Derp captain obvious. However, aside from public info about Sanjay which is readily available to every rhesus monkey with an internet connection, like you for example. Sanjay Jha is not the one evaluating updates for Verizon. Put the blame where it belongs is all i’m saying…cept you can’t do that cause you don’t know where it belongs because if you did you certainly wouldn’t be blaming a non-carrier official for the delay in android updates.

            And stock android in and of itself certainly did NOT save Moto. The Droid being a well built phone with stand out specs, even if only for a short time till it was eclipsed by the Nexus One, and the deal with Verizon saved Moto(including that advertising push) is what saved Moto. 
            So most everything you said was just ignorant babbling, or some cliche hate speech about Jha that everyone’s already made, and you ranting. Plainly you don’t really know jack squat, so yeah, talking out of your butt.

          • jake creed

            who’s in charge at Moto? Sanjay. who decides what happens or not? Sanjay. Who’s been pushing blur? Sanjay.  Verizon won’t put anything on their network without extensive testing, they put 2 apps in the Gnex nothing more. They don’t demand new phone variants. That’s SANJAY. 

            D1 was was well built but it was STOCK, thats why most people got it.  Then SANJAY switched to blur which sucked, it’s gotten a bit better but it’s probably the reason ICS won’t officially come from Moto.

            The blame goes exactly where it deserves, SANJAY and his need to volume release instead of quality release.  And the original DROID line should have remained stock.  How come other phone makers are releasing ICS to their devices but moto needs to wait? B/c of that crap called BLUR and that was green-lit by SANJAY.

            get it now troll?

          • Anonymous

             Sanjay said the focus was going to be even more on their overlay.  YAY, MORE MOTOBLOAT!!! 

          • Are you really that stupid? That’s the point! this crap for whatever reason takes time whether you’re running stock or not. The thunderbolt aint running stock, is that on ICS right now? How about the Charge? The Droid Incredible 2? Any HTC or Samsung devices on other carriers that all came out before even the Bionic? The page says the updates are moving through Verizon right now and you’re still complaining about blur when no other manufacturer has it on their device yet? Every OEM is working on it and it’ll still take months because carriers have to certify them.

            No it being stock isn’t why people bought it you twit. It was the marketing, I certainly don’t remember any Droid commercials advertising it as a stock android device. The advertised it as android, and android doesn’t stop being android just because you put a skin on it. Most people don’t know stock android form the backs of their heads. I work in close quarters with at least 10 android users on a daily basis. Not a single friggen one of them can tell me what build of android they’re running or whether or not they’re running stock. And 3 of those people have T-Mobile G2s…and you want me to believe it was stock android that sold the Droid and not the most aggressive phone marketing push the world’s ever seen.
            YOU are not representative of the entire customer base of android and neither are all the other skin haters on his blog. Look how many devices Samsung moved worldwide last year. You know how many of those models were stock? And I’ll bet my kidneys that the majority of those devices sold haven’t even been rooted. People just don’t care that much.

            And wtf do you mean others are releasing ICS? Where? What phone on sale right now has ICS besides the Nexus? Oh wait there’s that Huawei on sale in china, and what else? Don’t worry I’ll wait…
            You moron.

          • Anonymous

             And how do YOU know where the blame lies?  Was it not Motorola who said they couldn’t unlock their bootloaders because the carriers’ wishes?  But then HTC comes along and unlocks them all!  Whoa, what now Mr. Motorola?

            How would Verizon allow a Nexus phone that can be upgraded at any time if Verizon didn’t allow it?  It might be getting an upgrade when Motorola Droid 500 comes out and will interfere with the release.  Oh no!!

            This is all about Motorola releasing far too many phones and being unable to keep up with support.  It shows just in their forums if you’ve ever frequented them.  The D3 dropped an update and then not another word was heard.  As it is, the D3 won’t even be able to get an update to ICS before my contract is up, that is IF it gets ICS!!!!  Its not even in development. 

            Nexus or HTC (unlocked loaders which assure development beyond its contract) from now on.  F Motorola and their lack of effort into the Android ecosystem.  If Motorola cared half a penny, their support for their devices would be like what they did for the OG Droid.

          • Do we remember the announcement to slow production of phones they made? What happened to that BS?

          • HTC IS NOT MOTOROLA. It’s been covered bro. They are not in remotely similar positions with Verizon. Go look a few posts back, Aku Droid(or whatever the spelling of his name is) covered it.

            Who said Verizon doesn’t allow ICS? I certainly never did. And are you really referring to the Galaxy Nexus? You do realize shipping with ICS and upgrading to it are two very different things right? Carriers don’t have to spend months certifying the Nexus AGAIN for software it launched with…

            And sure, a few days ago two roms leaked for the D3, but sure, Moto’s not working on it. Those leaks came from someone else.

  • Droids

    If Moto didn’t have to update and test Blur, then hand it off to Verizon to update their crapware, then hand it off to the 3rd party crapapp devs that Verizon shoves on the phone (between the three there are something like 40-50 added apks on the phone), well they could push stock ICS to all these phones much quicker.

    Much as I prefer Moto hardware, my Bionic won’t be replaced by another Moto phone unless it has Nexus in the name. And as soon a dhacker has a working camera, his ics rom is going on my Bionic. No way I’m waiting until the third quarter, especially when the delay is caused by apps I don’t frigging want on the phone in the first damn place!

  • Even though my upgrade date comes later this summer, it seems more and more likely I will still purchase the Nexus, despite the prospect of newer and “better” phones sure to come in the fall and winter of ’12.   Why all the infatuation with raw phone power if you aren’t able to run the latest software with it?  
    Having the newest version of Android software has become paramount to me as a smartphone owner.  Along with the screen it’s almost everything.  I currently own a Samsung Fascinate (thankfully running ICS), and that alone has really shaped what I look for in a smartphone.  I will never again deal with the whole “when, or is, and update coming out for my phone?”      

  • Well the way I see it, I blame Motorola, Verizon didn’t lie to me to get me to purchase the Razr, Motorola did, They specifically said the Razr will have ICS by the end of January, that’s the reason I didn’t get the Nexus, so I say F motorola 

  • Flip74k

    This is some BS if u ask me. So by the time phones get ics the next version of android will be coming out Smh. They need to find a way to get this done faster.
    doesn’t even mention the x2

  • Bogy25

    So what does, “ICS ready” or “ICS Upgradeable” mean?

  • Bogy25

    So what does, “ICS ready” or “ICS Upgradeable” mean?

    • Anonymous

      It means “It’s ICS ready, but the Ice Cream part will be all melty and warm by the time we get around to releasing it! Even then, we’ll have skinned it so much and added so much bloat to it that you’ll hate it! And the bootloader will STILL be locked! But you could always buy our Developer Edition phones without a warranty or contract. Don’t you just love us!”

  • Friaform

    Interesting, I believe Alain Mutricy confirmed just around the release date that the Droid Razr would have an Icecream Sandwich update in early 2012. What is the definition of confirmed?

  • Darthseph23

    I’d like to point out that the actual structure of the software can’t be that different between the Razr and the Droid Razr.  The verification of CDMA/LTE over the GSM/LTE is what will take the longest.  The rest of the software should be identical shouldn’t it?  The phones are the exact same sans the radios themselves.

    I’m just wondering if someone more tech savvy than I could illuminate on why the same SW on the GSM (other than the radio interface portion) isn’t the same.

    We could see working Rom’s to fix the camera bug right now with ICS well ahead of plan once the Razr (worldwide GSM version) comes out.

    • Anonymous

      Well Verizon has to fit all their bloatware crap into it. That’ll take em at least…5 months?

      • Darthseph23

        That wouldn’t by an ICS port issue… that’s a carrier issue.  My point was that blaming Moto for not doing anything is really shortsighted considering the Razr is getting an ICS update outside the US.

        Ahhh, I can’t wait for the camera and market to be fixed on the ic3Rzr.  The GSM version should help us solve the issue.  Just don’t brick your phone and you’ll be fine.

  • Moto, Y U NO upgrade my x2 to ICS?!

    • Anonymous

      It’s because Moto no longer cares about you. I mean when you release the X2, Bionic, Razr, and Razr Maxx in rapid succession and they’re all the same style of phones and the X2 is the odd man out with a Tegra 2, you’re going to get left off the list. Regardless, with the Atrix and Photon getting ICS and having Tegra 2, you SHOULD be getting ICS, but that doesn’t mean Motorola is going to give it to you. That would just be too much work for Motorola to actually support their products.

  • They should really have to upgrade phones, if possible, if ICS was announced before or during the ship date of phones. I bet 50 bucks we see a D1 running ICS, and Moto will still say it wont run. 

    • Anonymous

      Maybe I’m wrong, but I think there are already ICS ROMs for the OG Droid.

  • csd577

    at the end of the day, what are you nexus ics people doing on ics that i cant do on 2.3.6?
    face unlock? i could careless
    not saying its not a better looking os, but at the end of the day its not affecting what i can do with my phone

    • Anonymous

      Using Google Chrome and enjoying better hardware acceleration as well as a completely redesigned UI and better multitasking as well as other things.

      • not to mention all the items that will be controllable with ics. lights, devices, etc. NFC. etc SUPER fast camera, which is VERY important to me

    • Binglut9

      At the end of the day I can’t believe your OK with a company you gave your hard earned cash to, to not update your phone in a timely manner. Along with software updates are security.fixes and that alone should have you upset that your not getting the update on a timely fashion

  • JagoX

    I like how Motorola is ignoring one of the phones that REALLY put themselves on the Verizon map…the Droid X. But then again…this is the same company that just released a couple phones less then a month ago on GB…a full 2 months AFTER ICS was already released. /sigh

  • Anonymous

    Because all the other phones that weren’t released with ics have it now

  • Jer85008

    Looks like most Verizon phones won’t see ICS for at least six months. As a Rezound owner, I’m a little dissapointed but this is what I signed up for when I passed on the Nexus. I’ll take the better hardware over the timely software updates though.

  • Anonymous

    So happy that I bought a Galaxy Nexus instead of Motorola anything.

  • damn it.  i got unbelievably screwed over with the droid 3. 

  • me

    take your time moto,ics is not that great where its worth getting all worked up about,just get it to me this year with no bugs….. on a side note i just bought a lapdock 5000 for my bionic,and it rocks.why would any one buy a tab? 14 inch screen,faster than my girls note book,free teathering…nice plues full size keyboard with andriod keys

    • me

      how bout lapdock 500,but really i love this thing

  • If the next Nexus doesn’t come first to Verizon or isn’t a multi-carrier device, I’ll just keep my Galaxy Nexus for 2 years. Seriously, I would never buy another Moto phone unless it’s a Nexus, which isn’t necessarily likely to happen (but could).

    • totally. I wont buy moto again. Not never no how!

  • Azndan4

    Lol. Stop blaming the carrier. Motorola just doesn’t care about its customers. End of story.

  • HTC and Samsung, who are notorious for being slow on updates for their phones, will reportedly begin ICS rollouts as early as March.  You know, Q1.  Note, this is 4 MONTHS before Q3 begins.
      Motorola, you recently had one of your VP’s touting how your are always one of the fastest to update your software (http://www.mydroidworld.com/topic/10383-motorola-vp-blames-update-delays-on-android-hardware/). Unless you have an update ready to go and are simply waiting for VZW’s go-ahead for an announcement so they don’t get insta-spammed by thousands of calls to their tech support asking about where in testing it is (possible, but unlikely), this timeline is completely unacceptable.

    I know the lion’s share of the blame should be on Verizon, but if that’s true they can say that its in testing, and everyone will be happy.  If that testing takes another 3 months, at least they can reasonably place most of the blame on Verizon, whereas right now any delay will be placed squarely on their shoulders (which is, of course, just the way VZW wants it).

  • Nsbjj

    Would I like to have ICS on my RAZR?  Sure.  But I VERY happy with android 2.3.6 it’s a great build with all the feature I need.  I am in no hurry.

  • Anonymous

    As soon as there is a stable ICS ROM out there for the Bionic I am going to grab it.  Sicks of this waiting game w/ Verizon/Moto!!  Should have gotten the Nexus……

    • Anonymous

      There already is, it just lacks camera support at this point. It gained 4G support just this past weekend I believe and camera support is apparently being diligently worked on.

  • Boblank84

    Speak with your pocket book and stop buying moto junk, this is despicable…

  • ddevito

    Even AngelFace wouldn’t approve of this list.

  • ddevito

    I guess we’ll get JellyBean before these get ICS. Pathetic

  • ddevito

    This is only because they have 24 devices on this list. If they didn’t have diarrhea of the assembly line perhaps their time-lines would be more attainable  

  • Butters619

    ATRIX in Q3?!?!?! Arrrggghhhhhh!!!

  • Binglut9

    And this is the reason you buy a nexus and not support these manufacturers. that is why I tell everyone to buy a nexus this chart is a joke and I would be pissed if I owned any of these phones ??q3 for brand new phones that should of cane out with ICS its laughable…now you all know buy a god damn nexus all these other fake iterations of android are giving it a bad bane its ashane

  • Sk102704

    What the hell man! What about my Motorola StarTAC!

    • Darthseph23

       Ahhh…. my first cell phone.  Well done!  I love that phone… and it was fairly rugged too!

      • Anonymous

        I have seen people still using that phone, not in the US though.

  • NO D3?!?!?! F-ing Motorolla. Been less then 1 year since release! unreal. 

    • They’re going to say there is not enough RAM (512mb) to RUN ICS WITH Blur.  I’m sure it would run just fine without the Blur.  Unfortunately, this is the risk you run when buying a skinned phone.

      • Anonymous

        … which is the poorest argument a manufacturer can make. If it doesn’t have enough memory to run the update with the skin, DITCH THE SKIN! Manufacturers need to either accept having to ditch their custom UI’s in future updates or do better at future proofing their phones released because this whole hanging customers out to dry over skins is ridiculous. Next phone WILL be a Nexus or a Google-run Motorola phone provided Google whips them into shape.

    • Anonymous

      Read the link!  It is on the list for evaluation.

      • Whoops! I didnt see the actual moto link of less memory phones. Thanks!

  • Anonymous

    so whatever happend to that agreement all those companies (inckuding motorola) made with google that updates would be timely….

    • Anonymous

      That “deal” was B.S. from day 1. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg and these ICS travesties portend bigger problems for Android down the road.

      I personally know a LOT of people (non-techie types) who jumped on the Android bandwagon early on. These are primarily people who were frustrated Verizon or Sprint or T-Mob did not have an iPhone in 2009-early 2011 and are abandoning Android after one bad hardware or skin experience and retreating to the security of iOS (or even going back to BB or WP7 in a few cases).

    • Anonymous

      “Timely” is a vague term. Google needs to crack down. Android is open source, but the Android Market and associated Google Apps aren’t. Force manufacturers to meet well defined deadlines with regards to updates or lose the Google suite of apps or face a fine. Make manufacturers sign an agreement. If they don’t sign, don’t let them have the Google suite of apps. If they sign and miss the deadline, fine them or even better, force them to offer a free upgrade to consumers to another device with the updated OS. Android’s biggest problem is lazy manufacturers that chase away customers. I guarantee that if you look at the people that have defected from Android, you’d find a large percentage of people that left because of updates that were late, buggy, or never came and manufacturer skins. It’s time for Google to up their game and push manufacturers harder.

  • Earl Echols

    Lawl @ the rest of the world getting updates before U.S.

  • The RAZR is a perfectly fine phone.. but I’d hoped to see ICS sooner. Disappointing.

  • Proof once again that if you actually want timely updates on Android, you can only have a Nexus phone.  All those promises of fast upgrades and that Android update alliance?  Yeah, just hoping you’ll stay on Android (or at least their flavors of Android) for one more phone.

  • After owning the Droid and enjoying freedom and updates and then the Droid X and being locked down, I swore off Motorola.  So glad I’m not with them anymore as Q3 is ridiculous just to get blur working with ICS.

  • Richard

    I am with you f Motorola. I paid top dollar last Feb 799+ acc’s. F motorola   ;-!

  • Anonymous

    Glad I was already planning on running ICS as soon as dhacker gets the camera functional for my razr.

  • If you read on the moto site, they explain that the evaluation process comes first, second is development, third is testing.

    What that means is that they have not even begun DEVELOPING or TESTING ICS for ANY of these phones. HOW LONG HAS ICS BEEN AVAILABLE TO CARRIERS, MOTO?!

  • Anonymous

    This is disheartening on a ‘jump ship for that guy with the fruit logo’ level. Though truth be told I blame Verizon entirely. Look at which devices are the most delayed on that list…

  • Anonymous

    Looks like I’m rooting my DROID 3 till I can save up to get a Samsung Galaxy Nexus!! I thought Moto would change but I guess not. I’m done with you MotoFail!

    • I went from a D3 to a Gnex.  I’ve never been happier!

      • Anonymous

        i wish to do the same, did you by chance sell your D3 online?

  • Anonymous

    This isn’t an I hate Motorola post, but I really don’t understand why it takes so long to get an operating system rolled out. Google has it ready to go and it certainly must work on Moto’s hardware. So what is the hold up? I don’t think it’s Blur cause I am sure they have that all ready to go. There must be some reason that we just are not aware of.

    Either that or it will roll out sooner than you expect and everyone will be happy.

    • Anonymous

      Incompetent software engineers? I mean, when you’ve got community devs that have everything working except the camera for the Bionic and have had to sidestep issues like the locked bootloader and closed source drivers and this is something they volunteer to do in their spare time and only receive donations, there is no excuse why Motorola’s full-time team of paid engineers can’t do it just as fast. Even with MotoBlur and Webtop, there’s just no excuse saying it will take until Q3 or longer. I don’t care how much testing Verizon is making you do, they should have a solid build to Verizon to test right now. I don’t care who the holdup is, there’s no excuse from anyone right now that’s acceptable to say Q3 or later. Early Q2 would be reasonable, but Q3 is ridiculous.

  • Anonymous

    Motorola just got Asus’ed.. I like how there is no MZ602 on this list unless I am missing it. 

  • Greekdaemon

    funny how slow the oems are I mean I have a custom ics 4.03 running on my Dinc I mean come on. Thank god I went with the Gnex not the Razr even with the special edition razr I can get as a VZW employee still no desire.

  • Anonymous

    This is exactly why as much as I want the Moto Razor Maxx for the amazing battery life, I will buy the Nexus. 

  • Anonymous

    this just makes it easier for them to make more money off of new phones coming out WITH ics. why upgrade the software when you can make people buy a DROID RAZR MAXX XTRME edition?

  • Anonymous

    This is Bull Sh$t.. Wish I could get my hands on the XT910. The ICS build for it looks great..

  • Jon Flikkema

    What about the droid 3? Hadn’t they said it would be getting ics as well?

    • Anonymous

      Go to the LINK!  It is in the next set of boxes.  Kellex FAIL for not showing all the boxes!!

  • Dan

    Silly.  I will only buy nexus devices going forward!

  • reyalP

    Just buy a Xoom and duct tape your Motorola phone to it and you will have ICS!  Don’t feel bad, HTC will probably update their phones next year!

  • Jonathan Ly

    This is exactly why Android has been incredible/frustrating at the same time.

    Ultimately, the only devices you can expect to have regular updates will be the Nexus line, and even then, as we have all come to find out, the GSM versions are the only devices that have full support, e.g. AOSP, as well as the full support of Google’s official updates.

    What I had initially thought it was just the outdated technology of CDMA seems to be false, seeing as the Photon 4G is in development. It is either Verizon’s policy on having its proprietary software installed on al devices, Motorola’s inability to apply Blur to ICS, or a combination of both, but I suspect the former is the more accurate reasoning.

    In my personal opinion, this is why Nexus devices ARE the best devices available, because you have the option of going with Google’s updates or the Community’s. Google hand picks the components for their devices, and thus that specific set of hardware is optimized for that software.

    Skins are single-handedly diversifying/dividing Android all at the same time. Its a matter of when will the consumers stop buying certain brands. 

  • Anonymous

    What about Droid 3?? Hopefully Google will wipe the soft division of Motorola Mobility and replace it with their own developers. I mean, if differentiation is what companies seek with custom skins, why  can’t stock Android be moto’s selling point??, stock ICS is prettier than what we’ve seen of other OEM ICS customizations.
    Any ways, no matter how you look at it, 2012 will be a transition year for Moto, first the acquisition by google and then the marriage with Intel… So I kinda understand the looong wait… but still… it is terribly sad/wonderful that independent devs can do beterr/faster updates for almost any phone.

    • Anonymous

      LINK!  Read the LINK!  D3 and X2 are on the list.

  • Anonymous

    Everyone on here needs to stop blaming Motorola!  It is obviously Verizon’s fault!!  Why else would those be the only devices with issues.  People need to READ!

  • Anonymous

    xoom MZ601 sholuld come Q2/2012 and now moto lies again. WTF Moto? WTF?

  • Anonymous

    Why would it take so long to update the RAZR/MAXX/Bionic?  According to Moto it is hardware differences that takes the longest time for the updates, but those 3 are very similar to the Nexus for hardware so they should be very quick.

  • Anonymous

    Glad I bough the nexus.

    • Keith

      Same here. I just got my GSM Nexus on Saturday, 

  • Wait this means Bionic probably won’t see ICS till 2013 and most of us who have the bionic will probably have a new phone that came with ICS before this as well!  So much for ICS upgradeable. this is a bunch of BS

  • Anonymous

    I can’t believe they cant even give us some kind of estimated date for the 3G Xoom. Bastards.

  • BS!!!! Bionic should have ICS already.

  • After seeing this, will never buy a Moto again.

    • Anonymous

      Same here.  This company just doesn’t get it.

    • Anonymous

      I would buy one if it has “NEXUS” in it’s name. Otherwise no.

    • Google owns motorola.

  • What about the Motorola DEVOUR

  • MobileGuy

    That’s nice. I mostly care about security and stability improvements. Also, better browser internet standards compliance. The Android browser and, of course, it’s WebKit variants in the Market are pretty behind in that aspect. Firefox’s mobile browser supports more standards but is very slow. I hope Firefox and Chrome gets more release worthy soon.

  • Rich


    I think it has to do with the carrier… which is sad…

    • Xfloggingkylex

      This.  How are people not noticing the carrier difference here?  Photon and Atrix get it and Droid 4 and Razr don’t?  Sounds like Verizon devices are the ones with the delay.

      • I don’t think it’s carrier.  I think its LTE radio tech.  It has caused nothing but delays, however, you’d think they’d have it figured out by now.

  • too many phones not enough people to work on these devices. just root and you can haz ice cream

    • angermeans

      Your right, but still no custom kernals and such. To lock down their bootloaders and then release a half dozen phones every quarter and then their update timeline is still a ways off. So where are all the people in that past post that stated they knew Motorola would be first. It looks like youll be waiting until qtr 2 (I know it says “Further Details to Follow” in the states) and knowing Motorola it wont be until the very last day of the qtr like they did with the Droid X.

  • Anonymous

    We need more time to put our garbage skin all over it.  This is what you get when you buy Motorola’s crap, folks.  Stop giving them money and the problem will go away.

  • Anonymous

    Dear Moto,

    Less time on the spreadsheet, more time getting your sh!t done. If you insist on releasing a “schedule,” make it meaningful.

  • This sucks, I know it takes time for R&D but come on. All I want is ICS on my LTE Xoom. I will be upgrading my DX to a RAZR MAXX soon and Moto is telling us that they have no fraking clue when ICS will coming to these devices. I sure hope the Google acquisition of Motorola speeds things up.

  • Anonymous


    My Xoom LTE feels cheated.
    Any decent ROMs for the Xoom LTE that will retain the ability to watch google movies?

    After owning the OG, The DX, a DX2 and the Xoom LTE – I couldn’t be happier that I moved onto the Galaxy Nexus.
    Motorola needs to DIAF.

  • Anonymous

    Crazy.  I’m done with Motorola for now, but maybe things will get better after the merger goes through.

  • Josh Fowler

    Yet another reason Nexus > All. Always.

    • angermeans


      • Anonymous

        Kind of puts “waiting” for 4.0.3 in perspective, doesn’t it?

        • EC8CH


          • Anonymous

            And who’s still waiting lol I’ve been running 4.0.4 for a couple weeks now 😛

          • Seriously, lol.

          • 4.0.3 source was released, but no official updates have been pushed ota afaik.

          • 4.0.3 is for the Nexus S

    • Anonymous

      The ICS for RAZR is expected Q2 for most countries except USA.  That points to a Verizon problem, not Moto.

      • Anonymous

        Yep. But it’s just easier for everyone to hate Motorola instead.

  • Rory W.

    It amazes me that the ICS update page still lists the DROID X as being upgradeable to 2.2 when it’s been running 2.3 since June 2011. (Even after I emailed them via their feedback page and got a response saying “we’ll take care of it.”)

  • Jefferson Peak

    I went from a DroidX, DroidX2,Xoom owner.. to never wanting to buy another Motorola product again. I am still curious how much of this is Moto and how much is Verizon. The Moto Xoom Wifi has ICS but the Xoom WIFI + 4G can’t this is some old bull..

    • Anonymous

      ICS for RAZR is expected Q2 for most countries except USA.  That points to a Verizon problem, not Moto.

      • Moto lost that benefit of the doubt when they whined about how hard it is to develop updates because of Google’s choice of chipset.  You know, that very rare hard to find TI OMAP that Moto sort of defaults to.  Geez.  But VZW is stupid too, so why not.

    • Vbdriver

      Ice cream sandwich, jelly bean I think I’ll wait for the diabetes.

  • Schoat333


    It will take moto another 6 months to get ICS on their current line of phones, but the community had it running on the OG droid, a phone that officially runs froyo, a few weeks after Google released source. 

  •  I’m definitely surprised. I figured the Razr would be first. The first ICS phone was on VZW and had a lot of hardware similarities with the Razr… CDMA/LTE radios, TI OMAP 4 series SoC, etc…

    • angermeans

      Never “figure” that Motorola will ever do the logical thing. They are the epitome of a company that doesn’t understand it’s customers and is only out to make a buck. Let’s just hope Google whips them into shape.

  • Anonymous

    Im meh about ICS. It wasn’t reason enough to keep my Galaxy Nexus and mu phone runs just as it should for the price paid. I wasnt promised ICS when i got it and Im not going to start a flame war now because of it. Life goes on. Jist happy i can rock out with my Bionic for a good 17 hours stock with extended battery with not a one signal issue.

  • Mack

    Sweet my phone is not even on the list, can’t say I’m surprised though. 

    • That’s only a partial list.  There are more listed in Evaluation if you go to the actual site at  https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c

  • EC8CH

    Bottom line… if timely updates are important to you, buy a Nexus, otherwise this is what you should expect.

    • Anonymous

      While I agree, this is not what they should expect.  Anyone who shelled out 300$ for the RAZR, motos “current” flagship phone should expect and get alot more than what moto delivers.  

      Moto epic fail.

      • Anonymous

        What has motorola done to this day that would make you expect anything different?

        This has been the story the whole time

        • Anonymous

          They did release the OG droid, but have face palmed on everything that followed..I often wonder if the OG droid was really a mistake by Moto as everything they have released since seems to go against everything most of us find useful on our old OG’s.

          • Noyfb

            every update for the og droid came between 3-6 months after the nexus phones got the same update. My og droid got froyo 3 months after the tmobile nexus, and the rest were about 4-5 mnonths in st.louis market. Glad i didn’t get the razr or any variation of it now, still its not much to ask for an update in under 6 months.

      • I think you guys mean different things when you say “should”. EC8CH meant that we should already known and expected slow updates from Motorola. What you mean by should is that those customers deserve much better support. Though you are both right, Motorola doesn’t seem to care about the latter one.

        • EC8CH

          exactly… you should deserve better, but you should not expect it.

        • Noyfb

          6 months used to be the average, that’s slow. anything over 6 months is just not worth the wait, that’s ridiculous that they are dragging their feet kicking and screaming, or everyone at moto is too busy deigning phones that no one is working in the software department to help push out updates.

      • Partly more a Verizon Fail.  The Motorola Razr ICS is in development stage….the Droid Razr and Droid Razr Maxx (Verizon phones) are in the Evaluation/Planning stage.

    • Anonymous

      The ICS for RAZR is expected Q2 for most countries except USA.  That points to a Verizon problem, not Moto.

      • Anon

         Knowing how many times you’ve posted this, I’m going to say this only once.

        Several other companies have had the power to tell Verizon that some things aren’t negotiable if they want to sell a phone that anyone wants.  That would include both the Galaxy Nexus (Samsung) and the iPhone (Apple) and Verizon has complied (probably reluctantly).

        Is Motorola any less strong as a company than those two that it is so unwilling to tell Verizon “Your customers are our customers too.  Here are some of the things we wish to do as we go forward in our partnership (e.g., software update timetables/releases, user-downloadable-void-your-warranty bootloader unlockers) so that people continue to buy our phones as they continue their contract with you”?

        If Motorola isn’t using some of its marketing muscle with Verizon to help people like us, doesn’t that really mean some of this issue is Motorola’s, and it isn’t all on Verizon?

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    • ReturnofMctypething

      Wow, did you come up with that all by yourself?

      • EC8CH

        I dunno… I think i liked the original Mctypething better… this new one just sounds more bitter and is even less funny than the original.

    • Anonymous

      I would normally agree as a Gnex owner, but the Verizon XOOM is essentially a Nexus device and it doesn’t even have a freakin ETA.

    • T

       Bottom line…. if dropped calls are a concern for you…  don’t buy a  nexus and make do with out ice cream sandwich for a few months untill it rolls out for the RAZR

  • Ken Krause

    Argh – when I bought the Razr (pre order in November) Moto talked about it receiving ICS 6 weeks after the release of ICS.  Well, we’re way past that!  Same with the XYboard.  How does the Wi-fi only Xoom get it and it’s only under evaluation for the Xoom2?  By end of Q2 there will be another release and we’ll be behind again.  Always loved the Moto devices, but disgusted with the delays – especially when there are a dozen+ ICS ROMS out there? It’s like they didn’t know it was coming!

  • Anonymous

    they’re a bunch of a$$clowns, that’s why

  • Anonymous

    Oh yes a fine investment indeed.
    Motos Droids died after og.

  • Anonymous

    So by the time my Nexus gets “J” version of Android Moto devices should be updated?

  • It seems to me that the deadline for these newer phones is probably the closest out of any others, and they’d rather not commit to a date if it appears to be so close. Its easier to promise Q3 for other devices since its still so far away.  There’s a good shot we’ll see those newer devices soon.

    • Atrix Owner

      I agree. Especially considering how though Verizon is on testing and approving updates.  If they were to say Q2 for bionic and razr there would be all kind of backlash if they didn’t meet it because of verizon pushing back for tweaks or fixes. 

      But at the same time saying a conservative Q3 update for bionic and razr devices that were released around the same time as ICS would get complaints to since your talking a year delay for a new phone that almost should have come with ICS.

      So staying quiet and giving the timeframe later when they are sure they can hit it may be their strategy.

      • You two jokers actually think Moto and VZW are going to surprise and pump out an update early?  Geez.  Grape flavored coolaid today or what?  

        Get real.  Get a Nexus!

  • Anonymous

    i wish the dx2 was on that list.
    Posted vis gnex the ever so delish ics

  • wsnydes

    so my bionic will get ics about the same time i’m using my wife’s upgrade to upgrade my own phone…

  • Anonymous

    HAHAHA  I cant believe people complain about Samsung…lol

  • Anonymous

    …aaaaaaannnndddd no DROID 3. Weak.

    • Darkseider

      That is disturbing seeing that the Droid 3 is Bionic + QWERTY slider.  Just like the Droid 4 is the RAZR + QWERTY slider.  I said no to Moto after my OG Droid and have not regretted that decision since.

      • Anonymous

        I can understand the D3 situation because it only has 512MB of RAM. It barely ran 2.3 + Blur ok.

        • Darkseider

          Care to explain why the OG Droid is running ICS then with only 256 Meg RAM?  For that matter the G2X, which I have, runs ICS VERY well with 512 meg RAM.  So that’s no excuse.  The only excuse is Motorola being lazy and dropping support on devices that are less than a year old.  MotoFAIL.  Get rid of Moto and go to HTC, LG or Samsung and you will NEVER look back, ever.

          • Anonymous

            i like this post.  even google said most GB devices should be able to run ICS.  you think moto gives a sh!t about the Droid 3 or X2 at this point?

          • Anonymous

            I guess YMMV because my OG could barely get out of it’s own way running GB.  Sure, it would be ok for a few days after a clean wipe, but before too long things always started to come to a grinding halt.  

          • You clearly weren’t running Bugless Beast!

      • Anonymous

        Droid 3 has half the RAM as the Bionic (512 MBs vs. 1 GB).  So it’s somewhat understandable that it might not get ICS.  One of the main reasons I skipped on the D3 as I knew that would restrict future updates.

        • ICS is working fine on my Droid 3 – lack of RAM isn’t a problem on stock android, it’s just gonna suck when Moto blurs the crap out of ICS.

          Also the Droid Bionic has Webtop – the D3 does not.  For some stupid reason the webtop and andorid partitions can each only access their own 512 MB, the RAM is not shared despite the two OSs not running concurrently.

          • Anonymous

            That is completely false. My bionic has full access to its 1gb of ram. I’ve never even used web top.

          • Anonymous

            What ICS build/ROM are you using on your D3?

    • Anonymous

      Scroll down the page. It’s in the next box. 

      :The following products have 512MB of RAM.:

      • Anonymous

        that’s hilarious.  that should be read as “These products will not receive ICS, but we’ll keep you hoping.”  what sucks is that google’s already said that any device running GB should be able to run ICS.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, I saw that. I understand the limitations of the phone, but I find it hard to believe that even w/half the operating power of the Bionic it wouldn’t take to an OS update. Or, at least Google claims it would.

  • Anonymous

    Wow NO info on the devices most of us care about on Droid Life. Also i love how up beat and positive their tweets are about the most mundane useless info.

  • Bobby Jordan

    Aka, Verizon says we can’t say anything. 

  • Anonymous

    could this go back to the google nexus discussion of gsm vs cdma on why vzw moto phones are not on the confirmed ics list?  and this is another reason why moto should not have pumped out phone after phone after phone.  at some point, you’re going to have to support and update the os.  or in this case, not.

    f moto.  

  • Kyle

    Tease me some more PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!

  • jorge fernandez

    these ppl are a joke lol and we as consumers are wasting our money on these devices 🙁

    • Anonymous

      Stop buying motorola.  theyll make a sucker out of you every time.  Blur is an insult to android.

      • Darthseph23

         By that standing… isn’t Sense and Touchwiz as well?

      • Anonymous

        The UI really isn’t bad at all

  • Dream

    Another Reason I invested in the Gnex

  • I know I’ve always defended Motorola in the past but now they are really starting to aggravate me. I’d love to the get the white Nexus but I simply cannot afford it, even if I sold my Bionic I wouldn’t afford it.

    • Anonymous

      16 gig though. Sorry I can’t deal with that.

      • can’t deal with 16 gig? How much do you need? My D2 is 8GB and that’s enough for me.

        • Anonymous

          I’m already close to 16GB with photos, videos, and music on my device (not to mention apps and data). I like the ability to upgrade my memory, but if I didn’t have that I’d probably need at least 32GB to feel secure and to not wet myself in the night out of fear of running out of space.

          • WAldenIV

            Stream music.  There is no longer any need to store it on your device.

          • Anonymous

            Not everyone has unlimited data. I do, but I have the space so I’m going to use it. Streaming music not only takes up data, but requires a good connexion and saps the battery more. This is triply true (on all counts) for video.

            I have a Chromebook and an Android, but I’m still not quite ready to live in the cloud 100%. The infrastructure just isn’t there, yet, for everyone.

        • Anonymous

          Yeah with music, update files, roms, photos and what not I need more than 16gb. Not to mention the app space is dedicated. These companies charge a premium for space and make a killing and try to make us feel like they are doing us a favor.

  • Esmccarty09

    I like how the Droid 3 isn’t even on here haha. So glad I moved from that pos to the galaxy nexus. Moto you will never have this guys business again.

    • Yeah I noticed that too. I have a Droid 2, which I didn’t expect to see on there, but I at least expected to see the Droid 3.

      THIS is the problem with Moto releasing 21387876475123 devices per year. They can’t update all those devices.

    • Anonymous

      If you look at the actual Moto site, the Droid 3 is there, as is the Droid 2.  They are both listed as being in the “Evaluation and Planning” phase, just like the Droid 4, Bionic, RAZR, some XYBOARDs and the 3G XOOMs.  Kellex’s post didn’t include the whole list, just the devices that contain at least 1GB of RAM.

  • Darkseider

    MotoFAIL.  Evaluation and planning?  Really?  I find it disturbing how our WONDERFUL dev. community can create superior and more feature rich ROMs for our phones from the AOSP yet Moto now with sugar daddy Google as the owner can’t.  This is why I will NEVER ever buy another Moto phone.  HTC, LG and Samsung will eternally have my business because they “GET” the Android community by providing ways to unlock devices or provide the devices fully unlocked.  

    • Anonymous

      Google JUST got okayed to buy them.

      • Google got the ok to buy Motorola Mobility from the US and Europe. Regulators in China, Taiwan and Israel have still not signed off on it.

    • “sugar daddy Google” is not their owner yet…

      But I agree completely. The “amateur” dev community makes ROMs far better and far quicker than most of the OEMs, and Moto is obviously no exception.

      • The dev community doesn’t have to provide any support, and isn’t accountable in any way if things don’t work. I’m not happy about this either (since I have a bionic, which will probably be obsolete before ICS comes to it). But it’s pretty silly to compare software that people write & use at their own risk, to commercially supported software used by millions of people, many of whom have never even plugged their phone into a PC.

    • Anonymous

      The ICS for RAZR is expected Q2 for most countries except USA.  That points to a Verizon problem, not Moto.

  • So it sounds like most Motorola devices will be getting ICS, by the time the newest version of Android is hitting Galaxy devices.  Awesome.

    • RadicalPie

      Nexus devices

    • My thoughts exactly. Q3 is right around the time a new version of Android should be coming out… if not earlier.

      • So… September/October (realistically November) the RAZR and RAZR MAXX and all of Moto’s other “CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL”-titled phones will receive Android 4.x.x. Approximately 2-4 weeks later, the next version of Android will debut alongside another Nexus.

        Failorola, imo.

  • *mandatory galaxy nexus comment*

    but seriously, im so glad i got away from motorola. every single device on there couldve had ice cream sandwich already. are developers for motorola lazy or something? devs pump stuff out no problem

    • Anonymous

      Yup. I mean look at those times. Q3 for a big chunk of them? Seriously? That should in no way be acceptable.

      • Yeah, Q3 is September/October. And with unexpected delays that always happen, I’m sure we won’t see ICS until november/december.

        Quite upsetting.

        • Anonymous

          Yeah and what makes it more upsetting is that *Jellybean will be right around the corner..

          *If thats what they are gonna call it.

      • kretz7

        It’s because they only have one dev responsible for upgrading all Moto devices. All other resources are spent on research & design, finding ways to add negligible features to existing devices, and then creating marketing strategies to resell the same device as something different. 

        • Not to mention the SIGNIFICANT amount of R&D budget invested into “cool titles for cool products.” Examples include the all-caps-lock-titled phones like the RAZR, RAZR MAXX, as well as the dysfunctionally-titled “Xyboard” tablets.

          • Anonymous

            I sure hope there’s no money being spent on the dumb names, but I know that hope cannot be true.

    • Anonymous

      Couldn’t agree more Stephen I myself came from the Droid X and although I loved the phone I got so tired of seeing everyone else get updates far before me. Now having the GN I couldn’t be happier with the update situation.  Google needs to do some serious house cleaning at Motorola.

      • Aaron

         I also came from a Droid X but saying everyone else is exaggerating a bit isn’t it? The X actually had timely updates compared to other skinned devices. The only phones getting updates far before the X were nexus devices which is hardly everyone else.

        • JagoX

          Uh no the DX didn’t…not sure what planet you’re living on.

          • Dude

             He’s actually right. The DX received Froyo and Gingerbread fairly quickly (though bug ridden), but this was before Moto started releasing so many phones.

      • Jonathonflores6958

        Also came from a DX which was my first Android device post-Blackberry (Storm). Loved it but that’s bc I was completely oblivious to the dev community and plethora of options. Upgrading to the Gnex couldn’t have come sooner and after doing so I’ll never purchase anything other than a Nexus device.

    • I definitely agree with you, all those phones could easily have it by now. However, corporate development is much different and much slower than the “guerrilla” development we are seeing from CM and various XDA devs. It’s sad but true. With that said, Motorola is still much slower than they should be.

  • Andrew

    Nice to see the Xoom LTE getting evaluated. I imagine they will evaluate it until Q4 when they will announce the update is not coming.

    What a joke.

    • Anonymous

       maybe in Q4 you’ll be able to send it in for the ICS update