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Thunderbolts Running Leaked Gingerbread Turning Into Bricks? Might Want to Consider Reverting Back to Froyo

Forget about the random reboot issues on the HTC Thunderbolt for a minute, we may have something that needs your immediate attention.  While we have yet to see or hear about this from our readers, there are enough reports of Tbolts turning up as bricks after running the leaked Gingerbread over at XDA that a warning has been released by @TeamAndIRC.

What exactly is happening?  Well, we’re not sure, but phones out of no where will just start endless bootlooping – leaving you without the ability to even load up a recovery or revert back.  Anyone running one of the leaked GB ROMs (not including CM7 alpha) with the new radio should think about reverting back to Froyo.  

Instructions:

1.  Download the file from below:

Custom upgrade PG05IMG_MR1_upgrade.zip (md5sum : 7960c7977c25b2c8759605be264843ea)

http://www.multiupload.com/NEANZBS5S4 (Please check the md5sum before flashing)

2.  Rename it to PG05IMG.zip and place it on the root of your sdcard.
3.  Reboot the phone into hboot:

adb reboot bootloader

4.  Allow the file to flash.

Full support can be found at this XDA thread.

Cheers Edward M.!

  • Dwizzler1

    dis fone is garbige anyways. bet peeps wish dey nevvar bought it! c@$h m0n3y

  • http://twitter.com/robitj11 Thomas Robinson

    Somewhere I hear angels crying……

  • Amd683

    Damn i loved gingeritis, going to liquid thundersense

  • Anonymous

    tinyurl.com/2df4ccp  

  • Anonymous

    this would suck

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q7WAAK26UIMKTAC53PNM6OS2EU ;-)

    Which GB radio are people using, I have 2 here, maybe it’s just one of them that has the problem, 
    can anyone provide the md5sum of the radio they are using… find out if that’s why..

  • Anonymous

    tinyurl.com/2df4ccp  

  • http://twitter.com/NemaCystX NemaCystX

    I had this issue when trying to install BAMF 2.0 beta with Sense 3.0.  It had to do a battery pull and take out my sd card since for some reason, the gingerbread build doesn’t have adb priveleges until its fully booted. (might be root security)  but in any case, i ended up having to use an RUU for MR1 and flash the old radio. then afterwards i just re-did the RUU for Gingerbread radio, after installing that booted into MR1, THEN installed “Gingeritis ROM” with Sense 3.0.  Its alot nicer and stable than BAMF 2.0 and I absolutely love the Sense 3.0 lockscreen it has alot of features i wish 2.0 had and i’m not giving it up without a fight lol

  • http://twitter.com/NemaCystX NemaCystX

    I had this issue when trying to install BAMF 2.0 beta with Sense 3.0.  It had to do a battery pull and take out my sd card since for some reason, the gingerbread build doesn’t have adb priveleges until its fully booted. (might be root security)  but in any case, i ended up having to use an RUU for MR1 and flash the old radio. then afterwards i just re-did the RUU for Gingerbread radio, after installing that booted into MR1, THEN installed “Gingeritis ROM” with Sense 3.0.  Its alot nicer and stable than BAMF 2.0 and I absolutely love the Sense 3.0 lockscreen it has alot of features i wish 2.0 had and i’m not giving it up without a fight lol

  • Djenks24

    Crap!!! I just ordered the thunderbolt because I had more faith in HTC than Samsung. Maybe there is a reason updates take so long:)

  • Paul_Lewis26

    Has anyone else had the problem with fastboot?  I have downloaded the P50IMG.zip from multiple sites and none will flash.  Keeps saying bad image.  The third one I tried loaded the third look but failed to go into update mode. What am I missing?

    • Les Prince

      It needs to be renamed PG05IMG.zip not P50IMG.zip like you are showing in your post or it won’t recognize the update file. Hopefully this helps.

  • Mrlamotte87

    I have been running a GB ROM and have not run into any problems yet.  As a matter of fact it is the best my phone has run since I have owned it.  I think I like other might wait a couple more days and worse case scenario I can do an insurance claim.  

  • Yetsko

    is this for real? my current setup is the fastest, most stable (not buggy at all) and most useful my phone has been since i rooted it. not to mention i don’t want to give up netflix. i may sit on this a day or two and see how it plays out. maybe this is only certain builds/mods?

  • http://www.facebook.com/greg.freestone Greg Freestone

    Trying to flash back, in hboot all I see is:

    Loading… [PG05IMG.zip]No image!It won’t Flash, any suggestions.

    • Anonymous

      You’re rebooting into the bootloader correct? not trying to flash it throught Clockwork?

  • Anonymous

    No issues here either… but reverting back anyway, better safe than bricked. Will wait for the next radio to get back to them cool Sense 3.0 weather animations

    • http://profiles.google.com/djnapieralski DJ Napieralski

      Same here, no problems whatsoever, flashing back to BAMF 1.6.3 as we speak, just in case. 

    • http://profiles.google.com/djnapieralski DJ Napieralski

      Same here, no problems whatsoever, flashing back to BAMF 1.6.3 as we speak, just in case. 

  • Franzie3

    Well the problem is some people we’re flashing the rom without flashing the radio….that = INSTA-BRICK

    If the radio is flashed properly after the rom it works fine.

    Granted there are a few bugs where it reboots during activation, but after that no problems

    I just loaded BAMF Remix and its great.  No problems here and no reboots after the initial activation.  I’d rather have that rather then the multiple daily reboots on the VZW official release….

    • http://twitter.com/danyay Dan

      “Well the problem is some people we’re flashing the rom without flashing the radio….that = INSTA-BRICK”

      Not sure that’s correct. When I did this (actually, when I flashed back to Froyo without flashing the radio), the only repercussions were that I had no radio. As in, an X over the signal bars, no wifi, no bluetooth or anything. Airplane mode did nothing. Rebooting to bootloader, flashing the old radio fixed the problem.

      • http://www.facebook.com/Comineeyeaha Brian Walker

        That’s the only way I did it, actually. Flash the rom, let it boot, use my file manager to put the radio on the root of the sd, then reboot into hboot. I already went back though, I had an SMS issue and I can’t be without my camera (2 young kids, I missed one photo opp and I was done). 

        • Franzie3

          I am gonna retract my prior post on this….after hanging out the the XDA forums with this issue, there are a few theories, 

          1) radio is problem
          2) ruu is not charing the battery correct, thus 100% battery will eventually = 0% battery

          I have extra batteries coming, but i would rather not be the guinea pig on it.  I’ll stick to reverting for now

          -plus BAMF 1.7 just dropped =)

  • TheAndroid

    Looks like Harold Camping was off, THIS is a sign of the end of the world.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve seen multiple people running into issues flashing ROM’s and radios improperly on XDA. 

    Another issue is that it seems that most of the people who ARE running into issues are using ROM Manager to flash the files. Manual management of the zip files etc seems to be the way to go.

    • Anonymous

      Yes… Its just as easy to do everything from Clockwork. Yet people still use rom manager.

      Even if instructions are in the original post many people will not read them. Then the endless thread will be of idiots asking the same questions over and over again. Even if its all explained in the original post.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Forte/542650247 Michael Forte

    Hmm interesting. My Thunderbolt rebooted itself 3 times last night. I am typing this on it now and its been fine since. Running Das BAMF 2.0.4 for a few days now.

    • Gregalst

      I ain’t going back now. If I get brick, ill tell Verizon that I went and updated the latest update they gave and been getting reboots ever sense. Mainly cause they are entitled to gran that. At least that’s what droid life claimed.

  • Anonymous

    ThunderBlow.. For The Win… 

  • Interstellarmind

    … i smell an anti-root, anti-rom conspiracy!

    • rikster

      oops! na its me i farted

  • Anonymous

    I had this happen trying to install dasbamf 2.0–5 beta. Clockwork would error out when mounting the sdcard but hboot still read the pg file just fine. Ive decided to hold on the gingerbread but with that new radio on my froyo roms battery is AMAZING.

  • Greg ✓

    So i did all of that gingerbread for nothing. Just when I was beginning to love my thunderbolt. Screw it. I’ll stick with it a day or so. If I get bricked…insurance covers it.

    • Rain_king46

      Technically, if they knew that you did flash it, I dont think that insurance would cover it. 

      • Greg ✓

        hopefully they wont thanks to it just bootlooping and Verizon folks not being experts at the phones tryign to battery pull to solve issues

        • Anonymous

          OR… the phone got left on the top of your car and you drove away, so you need to replace the phone… *wink, wink*

          • http://profiles.google.com/potentialender james netzer

            exactly what i was thinking. Damn it got bricked. 
            Guess it “accidentally” got dropped. Thanks for the brand new phone. 

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1125014743 Riggs Royena

            just do a warranty claim… you downloaded and installed the update…. and now your phone is looping. warranty claims are free.

          • http://profiles.google.com/zkolev Zack Kolev

            Insurance covers accidental damage, right? Like angrily chucking your phone at a wall when it gets stuck boot-looping… That was an accident, right?

          • Malonzo85

            Insurance Fraud is AWESOME

      • Anonymous

        I’m not positive, but I don’t think flashing voids insurance, just warrenty. Catch with insurance is the $100 deductable. At least that’s how it went down for me.

  • Addtoit

    Anyone know the best way to root the thunderbolt? And the most stable rom with sense 3 and gingerbread bits?

  • Skeetch79

    I know this story is in regards to TBolts, but similarly, I have a DX that was running a leaked version of 4.5.595 GB and all of a sudden over the weekend it randomly rebooted and became stuck in a bootloop. I had to SBF back to Froyo 2.3.340 from the GB leak. Thought it was just my phone (even though I had not loaded any apps in days or had done any changes to the phone’s files in a week or so) but now I see something larger is going on.

    • http://profiles.google.com/d.michaud333 Dakota Michaud

      Still may be just your X.  A ton of people have been running the gingerbreak on their X’s without issue.  Maybe your’s was a one off but we’ll see as the day progress is presume.

      • Skeetch79

        Gingerbreak and Gingerbread ran great – I had .595 installed for quite a few weeks without issue – smooth as all heck. First thought that crossed my mind was maybe Google silently did something. Remember they were supposed to push a fix for the WiFi vulnerability issues? My thought was maybe it was not compatible with .595.

    • Davros

      Your not alone. Mine rebooted today on its own and kept rebooting. Oh well, I made it a year without having to learn rsd :)

  • AmadHTCcustomer

    I knew staying on Froyo would come in handy some day.

    SUCKAS!!!

  • http://twitter.com/wheineman Will Heineman

    I can 100% confirm this!  I have been bricked for 24 hrs now. Was running DAS-BAMF 2.0–5

    I can give more details to anyone who is interested. Was up all night working with TeamAndIRC

    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094772

  • http://twitter.com/wheineman Will Heineman

    I can 100% confirm this!  I have been bricked for 24 hrs now. Was running DAS-BAMF 2.0–5

    I can give more details to anyone who is interested. Was up all night working with TeamAndIRC

    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094772

  • tomNasty

    O great….well the new radio is worth the brick

  • tomNasty

    O great….well the new radio is worth the brick

  • Anonymous

    Wow, glad i’m not rooted…

    • Dave

       Nothing to do with root. Has to do with GB roms using the new radio.

      • Anonymous

        Not saying root is the problem, simply being rooted tempts people into getting the latest and greatest roms, and then something like this happens..

  • Anonymous

    Wow, glad i’m not rooted…

  • Jeremy Gentry

    okay….ive been running gingerbread for a few days now without any problems, not sure whats going on with this, maybe a false scare?

    • Muddy B00ts

      Mine’s been running fine for a few days too.  But in the XDA post it says it can happen even if that is the case.  I’m back to tesla coil for now.

      • Jeremy Gentry

        yah, i might risk it though! i want to keep netflix! rawr!

        • http://profiles.google.com/potentialender james netzer

          I’d def revert back. Not worth the risk. 

          • Jeremy Gentry

             i was reading through the xda forum, LOTS of scare. reverting back right now -_- sigh

          • Jeremy Gentry

             i was reading through the xda forum, LOTS of scare. reverting back right now -_- sigh

        • Anonymous

          Bricks are no fun. Netflix will come to Froyo TBs..

  • Anonymous

    This is a big reason that I have always been afraid to root. You never really know if something is stable or not.

    • http://twitter.com/LiveInTheDream litd

      Root? That won’t brick your phone.

    • Anonymous

      root isn’t the problem – and it’s arrogant uneducated points like this that do a disservice to the rest of the community.

      • http://twitter.com/iLLyTree Blake Ogletree

        that logic is baseless.. if you were a logically thinking human being you would realize that the root is the problem (in this case).. it’s as simple as if you didn’t root your device, this wouldn’t happen..

        not bashing rooting considering I loved my DX liberty ROM I was running before I made the switch to the Tbolt.. haven’t pulled the trigger yet on rooting the bolt, but the time will come.

        oh and the irony in your using the term “arrogant” to describe his comment when your comment is bleeding arrogance.. roff had me lol’n at work.

        • Anonymous

          “if you didn’t root your device…”

          that’s no better than saying “if you didn’t buy a smartphone to begin with…”

          rooting did not cause this.  Flashing an untested leak of the new OS did.  There is really no “logical” way you can turn this around.
          This is why there are plenty of people who root but never get into flashing custom ROMs.

          • Anonymous

            I’ve rooted and flashed two ROMs so far but I only flash well tested and stable ROMs.  For me, not a super user at all, it’s much more beneficial to have a working ROM than a unstable new and untested one…let them get all the bugs worked out and then I’ll run it!

    • Anonymous

      Root has nothing to do with it…  This is because of an early LEAK of GB that people are flashing…  There is NOTHING wrong with the rooted Tbolt.  If people want to take risks and flash early build of stuff, then this is what happens

      • http://profiles.google.com/potentialender james netzer

        Yeah. On my original Droid i never waited for the over the air updates. I would push them myself. 

        Can’t believe they are getting bricked. 

    • Anonymous

       and oh yeah, take your stock TBolt with the latest OTA (from VZW & HTC) into an area with weaker 3G and let me know how stable it is… hope you don’t have to call 911 either like my friend did – she watched her phone reboot while talking to the sherrif’s department about her son being stuck in a car with a tree on top of it here in Indiana yesterday… 

      • Bleedtoledo

        Had my bolt for three weeks. Only 3 time its ever rebooted was whilst downloading in a weak 3g area

    • Khollis33

      Rooting does nothing but give you access to the system.  What you do with that access could mess things up, but rooting alone can’t do anything harmful.

    • Khollis33

      Rooting does nothing but give you access to the system.  What you do with that access could mess things up, but rooting alone can’t do anything harmful.

  • Thunderatrix

    Glad I stuck with bamf 1.6.3

  • Rain_king46

    Thunderbrick! There is a marketing campaign waiting to happen!

    • Rain_king46

      VZW Press Conf: We plan to be totally 4G LTE by 2013….. Yes, that is correct, all of our new phones are scheduled to be 3G only…. Yes one of the TWO 4G phones that we offer may brick if you update it. That is IF you can get the battery to last long enough to even get that far.  Epic Fail Verizon. 

      • TheAndroid

        The charge gets great battery life, htc messed up.

        • http://twitter.com/BHagey1 Brandon Hagey

          46 hours battery cycle on my thunderbolt ./flex

          • http://profiles.google.com/billhewins Bill Hewins

            How?  I’ve been getting between 8 and 11 depending on usage.

          • Jeremy Gentry

            he is running a different rom most likely. i got a good 24 hours of heavy use out of my phone running BAMF 1.6 Rom/ Kernel

          • Anonymous

            im running bamf 2 with leanekernel and still not getting that kind of battery life. please be more specific

      • fillyo

        You guys are all retarded…this is a leak of gingerbread, not issued by HTC or Verizon, so anyone who has used this, including myself, understands the risk.  I have never experienced any reboot issues since day one, but am reverting back to Froyo until an official GB releases, or another “stable” leak. These GB roms with sense 3.0 features are great, and once a stable version leaks, its back on! 

        • Anonymous

          Agree this is exactly why it is a leak and not an official build

    • Rain_king46

      VZW Press Conf: We plan to be totally 4G LTE by 2013….. Yes, that is correct, all of our new phones are scheduled to be 3G only…. Yes one of the TWO 4G phones that we offer may brick if you update it. That is IF you can get the battery to last long enough to even get that far.  Epic Fail Verizon. 

    • Sob157

      shit you beat me to it!

    • Anonymous

      I have read enough comments from idiots trying to flash Roms to know exactly who is bricking their phones… If its even happening. You wouldn’t believe the dumb things people say and do.

      People should not be rooting and flashing Roms until they have done their homework on the subject.

      My gingerbread install is running flawlessly and Droid-Life shouldn’t be starting a panic over a small group of morons that shouldn’t be flashing Roms in the first place.

      • Dmitri

        Except they think the problem lies in the new gingerbread radios, so it could affect anyone at random.  Oh, and some of those idiots/morons, at least according to TeamAndIRC, are highly experienced users and friends of theirs…

        Once again, they’re not saying it will definitely happen; in fact, they’re saying the chance in minimal, but they are saying there’s a chance.

  • guest

    Bad times to be a thunderbolt owner

  • guest

    Bad times to be a thunderbolt owner

    • fillyo

      Why is that…this is a leaked version that only impacts rooted users that used the “leaked” RUU, your comment is useless.

    • http://twitter.com/starnovsky Stan Tarnovsky

      Bad times to be a ROM beta tester.