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Supposed Galaxy S5 Benchmarks Making the Rounds, 2K Display and 2.5GHz Snapdragon 800

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Given that Samsung has a history of releasing its Galaxy flagship phones with crazy-good specs, we thought you might like to know that thanks to GFX Bench, a few of the Galaxy S5 specs might possibly have been outed. A device with model number SM-G900S ran through the benchmarks recently, sporting a few ridiculous specifications that might have jaws drop on the floor. 

For starters, the device is seen running Google’s latest Kit Kat mobile OS (probably topped by TouchWiz), as well as a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 quad-core processor clocked at 2.5GHz. Although, we still thinks it’s early in the testing phase, and it wouldn’t shock us if Samsung was able to work in the new Snapdragon 805 chipset with the Adreno 420 GPU. What might have more folks excited is the inclusion of a 2K display, packing a resolution of 2560 x 1440. Unfortunately, the screen size is unknown, but it will probably be in the 5″+ arena. Again, with Samsung possibly going for a 2K display, the odds would point to the inclusion of Qualcomm’s newly-announced processor instead of “last year’s” silicon.

When it comes to flagship devices from major OEMs, there is a solid timeline that we have seen played out over and over in terms of leaks. First, rumors start circulating about what specs we might see in the device. Second, the rumored specs become “confirmed” thanks to benchmark sites that the device has been tested on. Third, we start seeing really terrible and blurry shots of a device that could possibly be the device in question, but it’s almost always impossible to tell. Finally, if we are lucky, we get good shots of the device from either the FCC or when @evleaks decides to work his magic and posts up unreleased press renders. So far, it looks like we are right on track.

Either way, as we always say, it’s never to early to start hypebeastin’.

Via: GFX Bench | VR-Zone [2]
  • http://thatgeekdad.blogspot.com/ Rob Delaney

    Imagine if this shipped with Tizen. LOL so many a hearts would be broken with such specs and a eco-system that is so radically new it would cause mental break downs in choice. Do you go with the beast phone with little to no eco system or choose a less beast phone with a overwhelming eco system in Android. Actually now that I think about it, I can see them doing it.

  • Patrick Bateman

    2k on a phone no thanks….

    2k on the occulus rift yes please!!!!

    Hopefully occulus can get some of these screens for there first consumer launch…

  • feztheforeigner

    1080 by 1920 is 1.92K

    This display is 1440 by 2560 making it 2.56K

    We’ve had basically 2K displays for a long time, this is higher….

  • deejaylew

    These specs are laughable. “2k display” really??? If you want a 2k display you have a severe lack of understanding for mobile technology. I do not see the benefit AT ALL.

  • Aooga

    Yet it’ll still lag. Instead of cramming as much specs as you can, how about optimizing your crapwiz, Samsung.

  • Evan Schulz

    I’ve got to hand it to Samsung. I was a die hard moto fan for years, well before smartphones. Droid Bionic ended my love affair. I love my S4. Great screen and removable battery. Got a charged one ready to go whenever I need it. Power down, remove it, and no NSA tracking (or at least I think not).

  • M3D1T8R

    1440p display, cool.. Does that mean they’ll finally be able to fix their moronic buttons “bug” now? zzz

  • http://infotainmentempire.blogspot.com Rob

    One of the reasons I love Android so much is how OEMs push technology in the handsets to their limits. That being said, am I the only one who thinks a 2K display on a 5″ phone is overkill? I’d rather Samsung concentrate on getting 4K televisions in homes to become standard like 720p/1080p have practically done before worrying about a 2K resolution on my phone I look at 16-20 inches from my face.

    • crazed_z06

      I wouldnt worry. Im sure Samsung has the ability to concentrate on more than one thing at once.

  • Dominick White

    well this will be the wife next phone, not because of the specs, but cause of the removable battery

  • AbbyZFresh

    Can’t Samsung focus on something else for once on their phones. How about optimizing the touchwiz properly instead of relying completely on high specs all the time. And most importantly, THE BATTERY LIFE.

    • kevlar

      I can go almost 2 days with 3-5 hours of screen on time, BT and wifi on the whole time and have poor reception throughout the whole day (which puts a big strain on the battery) with my Note 3. You consider that poor battery life?

      • crazed_z06

        I said the same thing this morning. All these people crying about battery life seem to forget the GS4 already gets decent battery life and the Note battery life is awesome. All Sammy has to do is put a 3000mah battery in the GS5 and it should be good to go.

  • Justen DeBowles

    Samsung still leading the charge and carrying android on its shoulders by pushing the limits of wireless phone tech. But it’s cool to hate samsung nowadays…so most folks will consider this bad news i guess…lol

    Looking forward to learning more about what will easily become the best selling android phone of 2014 and influence the Note 4 that so many note 2 owners are waiting on.

    • AbbyZFresh

      “Looking forward to learning more about what will easily become the best selling android phone of 2014 and influence the Note 4 that so many note 2 owners are waiting on.”

      That was irrelevant to say. You and I both know the S5 will easily outsell any other android phone that comes out in the next year. Assuming the phone comes out in the first quarter.

  • Valerie Rub

    there are some issue with Samsung Galaxy.if we talk about Flap set most of them after six month their flap problems with working. I am without flap user reason is that before few have that seen. So i have suggestion change its model design and launch without flap.

    • Daistaar

      … the hell are you talking about?…

    • HarvesterX

      Valerie, I have no idea what you’re talking about. If that avatar image is you though, I can look over the fact that I don’t know what the hell a Flap on a phone is ;)

  • Just_Some_Nobody

    So, they’re basically selling it to the headlines. ‘Cause most people would rather longer battery life than a higher DPI count at this point.
    I guess Samsung doesn’t read tech blogs.

    • Adrynalyne

      Samsung is all about the spec war. Why optimize and improve, when you can just crank out faster and higher res?

      Samsung is smart, because they know that the spec war sells. That and flooding the market.

  • Blake Smith

    hopefully my galaxy nexus will last until march? err April.

  • jim

    so pumped, my new Note 3 will be here tomorrow

  • Bishop

    The Galaxy S4 already has a 2k display. 2k only points to the horizontal resolution (1920) and (1080p) points to the vertical resolution. All these 1080p smartphones are really 2k….. This resolution is called WQHD. It should be called that or referred to as 2.5K or 1440p.

    • Mitchman

      You’re not a marketing major are you?

      • Bishop

        lol no. Just pointing out that this display is higher than the 2k displays we already have on our phones lol.

  • Franz

    Touchqiz with 2K?….

    No thanks. Unless it has a 5000mAh battery.

  • chris125

    I hope they refine touchwiz. I’m all for the super high res displays but hopefully if rumors end up true of a 4000mah battery we will finally be able to get a day out of super heavy use with the phones.

    • Mike Hilal

      TW, at least on the note 3, is lightyears better than on the S3/Note 2 or S4. They finally allow you to turn off/uninstall the gimmick stuff to the point that the phone just sips battery.

      • Adrynalyne

        It runs worse. Even with the crap turned off. There is no reason why the launcher should drop framerate when moving through widgets.

        *Waits for the incoming, “you must not have a Note 3″ comment*

        Light years ahead, to me anyway, means they improved it. Allowing stuff to be turned off is a fix, not a light years ahead improvement. We need more of those. Maybe we can move on past the Gingerbread look too.

        • Mike Hilal

          It’s literally the only place there is any jank in the whole OS…compared to jank everywhere. Hell, even the nexus 5 janks more than the GN3.

          Agree with you on the GB look. It’s 2+ years behind the times. Samsung is too obsessed with branding itself vs updating the look of TW.

          • Adrynalyne

            I couldn’t find any jank on the Droid Maxx.

            Alas, I digress. If Samsung could update the look to something past 2010, and fix the jank with the launcher, I would be a lot less cranky about them.

          • Mike Hilal

            You must be dreaming. Either way, we’ll leave that argument for another time. That’s my only gripe with TW (aside from the verizon lockdown on tethering)….they really do need to holo the crap out of it.

          • Adrynalyne

            I have unlocked tethering with unlimited data. Some sort of glitch on my account that has been there for over two years. It doesn’t even show that I am provisioned for it, I had a manager look. The subscription check just works for me.

          • Mike Hilal

            I had that with my Gnex…but it miraculously got fixed when I bought my note3. I just use FoxFi now…it’s not perfect but it’s better than nothing.

          • Adrynalyne

            I find I don’t use it much anyway. Mostly just to commit code on my laptop when off of wifi. I thought for sure the Note 2 would kill it off. Nope. Then I figured the Note 3 for sure would. It is still going strong.

  • Disqus_n00b

    Market is starting to mature. Will 2K change the smartphone experience more than 1080p? Will 4GB of RAM make everything else obsolete? I’ll choose the next-gen that is focused on battery life, camera performance, voice recognition performance etc over the best specs.

    • Christian Trevor Clauss

      Motorola is probably your best candidate.

  • Raven

    So, with ridiculous specs like that on the Galaxy S5, the Galaxy S5 Mini might actually be a pretty decent phone.

  • Rodeojones000

    I’m sure they’ll ruin it by putting a physical home button on it.

    • joejoe5709

      Definitely. Sometimes I get jealous of the S4’s usable screen space especially when playing a game or something, but then I pick up my buddy’s S4 and immediately touch all the capacitive buttons on accident. Bezels have their benefits, that’s for sure.

      • NexusMan

        Kit Kat fixes that.

        • joejoe5709

          Immersive mode will be really cool.

          • hkklife

            Yes, eventually we will be able to make everything full screen or dismiss the status bar with a swipe. Untl then, i am honestly a fan of hard physical buttons like the Droid X or GS4 Active.

    • UniBroW

      I think the only thing I like about a physical home button (and overall I’d say I definitely do not prefer it, especially with kitkat now) is the ability to wake the phone without having to reach for the power button.

      • joejoe5709

        Two words. Knock Knock. :-)

      • Tim Menke

        Active Notifications :)

    • Balansi Kherwyn

      I’ll buy it just because it has physical button.

  • Chris Bobrowitz

    Unless they pack in a 3500 mah+ battery, then it will suffer the norm of Samsung devices with poor battery life.

    • joejoe5709

      The S4 has some of the best battery life of the current flagships. But yeah I think they’ll be going for an LG G2-like battery life. It’s one of the best parts of the phone and the public obviously loves it. 3500 mAh is a bit much even with a 2K screen. I’d expect them to match the G2 with 3000 or something just slightly higher like 3100 mAh. A newer processor and Kit Kat will go a long way to helping battery life on an already great phone.

  • Dave

    Blah…waiting for 4K. 2K is so 2014….LoL.

  • joejoe5709

    I have my doubts on these ridiculous specs, but I know Samsung will be really trying to knock this one out of the park. The last couple releases – S4 in particular – was deemed too little of a bump over its predecessor. A now-commonplace 1080p screen and Snapdragon 800 would only merely match its new rival, the LG G2 and only a moderate increase over the S3. They really need something to catch the public’s eyes and stomp out LG’s resurgence. So they’ll either need some crazy helpful (not gimmicky) software features, a more lightweight skin for Kit Kat, or some monstrous specs (or… all the above). Despite the spec hungry phone nerds that will backlash for “yet another small bump”, software improvements would really help Samsung in the long run. In this case they should definitely take a page from Moto and hold off on major specs for one more year and focus on the user experience.

  • http://www.twitter.com/SexciiP JaQuez Avondre

    Well all in all I do love Samsung, but I do agree with some of you. Samsung should focus on minor improvements rather than throwing in new tech just because they can. Yeah I’d love to brag about a 2K screen but what good would it do with poor battery life. Don’t get me wrong my S4 has great battery life it really could be improved tremendously. Also they just need to work on their camera so it can take better quality shots, speaker, do a complete UI overhaul, and make S-Voice more useful and sound less robotic. (My Opinion)

    • crazed_z06

      I think Sammy could probably ditch S-Voice. Google Now is so much better. Speakers can be improved and camera could do better low light pictures. Sammy is at a point where they have a working formula and just need to start tweaking it and making improvements. Kinda like how Apple does with the iphone.

      • http://www.twitter.com/SexciiP JaQuez Avondre

        It’d be silly of them to ditch S-Voice as it does most things that Google now can’t. S-Voice handles things within your Galaxy Device where as Google now just does minor things. Google now is mostly for like doing web based searches. Don’t get me wrong I love Google now, but I find myself using both S-voice and Google now depending on what I need them for.

  • Asriel

    A 2K display on a phone? Ridiculous.

    • Balansi Kherwyn

      If you can have it for the same price as 1080p … why not?

  • AJH

    Better have a larger battery to handle that screen. I’m tired of flagships having such mediocre batteries.

    • Michael Bell

      Buy the Note, MAXX or One Max or swap in a larger battery. Not like you have no options

      • AJH

        Not on Verizon, so Maxx isn’t an option. And I don’t want a “phablet” (god, I hate that word). I don’t think consumers should be expected to shell out additional money, on top of the already expensive phones, for a battery, especially when many of these batteries have sub-par quality replacement backs and prevent you from utilizing most cases. Phones should be designed to be a complete package, yet so many can’t make it through a full day. Larger batteries are a crutch that allow OEMs to continue to make phones with small batteries. So, while larger batteries are useful, I don’t think they should be designing phones with inadequate batteries to begin with.

        • BobbyG

          LG G2

        • Mitchman

          I like variety. It’s the beauty of Android. If you start making design restrictions, well then you are going to end up with the iPhone 5s and its 1 GB of ram in 2013.

  • 213ninja

    i love the touchwiz apps. i would like to see them ditch the skin/theme and keep the TW apps. OEM menu’s and icons, TW s-pen apps. that’d be money.

    • Mitchman

      I’ve been happy with Touchwiz ever since I started using Nova Launcher. Don’t have to deal with the lag on the homescreens and app drawer.

  • jbdan

    Here’s to hoping they’ll focus on optimizing the ui experience rather than their typical “hover this, window mode that, gesture this…”. Just make it run smooth out of the box for petes sake

    • Michael Bell

      Its those features that make the Galaxy phones stand out and outsell every phone not named the iPhone. You want smooth, buy a boring, vanilla N5

      • jbdan

        Yes. But….keep the features that’s cool. Just focus on improving the ui experience regardless of “all the features”. I think they can do it! Heck I know they can but will they

      • gtg465x

        At this point, I think a lot of normal, non-techie people buy them because Galaxy is the only phone they’ve heard of other than iPhone. That’s mostly because of marketing. I don’t think it has anything to do with how good the phone is. In my opinion, the Galaxy S II was the peak of the series and brought the Galaxy name into the spotlight. People were amazed by that phone. They had never seen Android look so good or perform so well. Samsung has added a lot of features since then, but the problem is, TouchWiz no longer looks good compared to other modern UIs and it no longer gives you the smoothest, best performing Android experience. I think they’ve lost sight of what made them popular in the first place. Can they keep riding on past success with an insane marketing budget? Sure, but their sales GROWTH has certainly slowed way down with the S4.

        Of course, this is all just one man’s opinion. Feel free to disagree. I know many will.

        • joejoe5709

          Agreed. For most average consumers, the Galaxy series is “the” Android phone. They view it as the most well-known and so therefore the best quality. Not that it’s a bad choice. More than six months later, the S4 still represents one the best all-around flagships for the holiday season. That’s pretty epic for such a fast-moving industry.

      • chris_johns

        lol…smh

      • bd1212

        It’s those features that suck up battery and honestly are pointless additions that people use for two seconds then get bored of them. Why scroll with my eyes when I can just scroll with my finger… I’d already be holding the phone and it’s a lot faster and accurate. Why wait to for the hover view window to popup when looking at something when I can just quickly click to look at it. Same goes for smart pause, the weird hand gestures over the sensor to move things on the home screen, etc. I realize that they’re “cool features,” but are they practical? In most cases (read: all), they’re useless. They’re cool the first time, but then they are never used again. They use unnecessary resources that could otherwise be used to keep the phones battery lasting longer and keeping the UI smoother with less stuttering.

        Samsung should be optimizing their phone for performance (speed, fluidity, smoothness…) and THEN adding these features in ONLY if they do not hinder performance. Keeping the UI performing at a constant 60FPS with no stuttering or lag should be their number one priority. Instead, Samsung just adds a bunch of pointless features to their phones and then crams in the latest and greatest specs, hoping that they’ll be to handle all of the crap that’s constantly running in the background. This appears to work, but in reality, frames randomly drop when doing simple tasks such as swiping through home screens, pulling down the notification bar, or switching between apps. Simple tasks like these should not stutter, lag, or freeze. There’s no reason why a phone like the Moto X with it’s so-called “midrange” specs can perform any of these tasks without even a hint of lag or stuttering, but the Galaxy S4 or Note 3 cannot. And I’ve personally owned each of these devices, so I know first hand what it’s like to use them.

        Maybe it’s just me, but in my opinion, battery life and an awesome UX should always be the most important priorities for Samsung, not adding feature after to feature just to say “hey, we did thought of this pointless feature first!”

  • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

    Couldn’t care less about displays anymore… I want FEATURES MAN!!!…

  • http://thebeeobee.com/ thebeeobee

    Maybe try putting a decent screen on the Galaxy Tabs first.

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      This has nothing to do with Tabs

  • Michael Bell

    2560 x 1440 display on a FIVE inch phone? LOL. Go home Samsung, youre drunk

    • gtg465x

      Personally, I’m thrilled with that decision. It will ensure the S5 doesn’t perform as smoothly or get as good battery life as the 1080p competition. People will finally stop worshipping Samsung and start recognizing some of the other great Android manufacturers.

  • chaoslimits

    Why do they think we need larger displays and resolutions? Put that research into battery savings.

    • Foo

      Screens are probably easier than batteries

      • Adrynalyne

        Batteries are boring. Screens are exciting.

  • DJyoSNOW

    It was rumored to cost $900 ( ug)

  • Tim242

    I have a Note 3, and this is all I can see on my screen due to the stupid floating ad, the stupid top bar, and the gigantic text. Complete idiocy.

    • ilovetechnology

      The ad I can kind of forgive, you gotta make your money somehow. But the top bar should NOT scroll with the page. It’s very annoying.

    • http://www.droid-life.com/ Tim-o-tato

      If scrolling with your finger is too hard, I don’t know what to tell you lol

      • Adrynalyne

        LOL

      • Tim242

        I have a Note 3. I shouldn’t have to constantly scroll to read an article. No other site does this crap. You nit-pick phones, but expect people to just love this nonsense.

        • Adrynalyne

          You not pick phones? What?

          4 inch, 4.5 inch, 4.7, 5, 5.7…its still a small screen. Scroll just a little. It won’t hurt you, I promise.

          • Tim242

            I shouldn’t have to constantly scroll to read an article. Many people on here have complained about the same thing. The site is obnoxious on a mobile display with the large text, then they go and have a top and bottom bar that follows you as you scroll. It is not cute.

          • jhlinka

            How about you use Google Play Newsstand? Droid-life is there. No ads and no top bar (it only pops up when you scroll up, then disappears after 2 secs)

          • Steve B

            If you read Droid Life on a mobile browser you’re doing it wrong. Welcome to free apps. Feedly or the new Newsstand app are much more efficient at reading DL articles than any browser.

        • http://www.droid-life.com/ Tim-o-tato

          You win some you lose some. We tried to please everyone as best as we could, but still go for a look we were proud of. We even put the titles back above the pictures! Needless to say, it bums me out when people don’t have a good time reading through the site. Personally, I have had zero issues scrolling through articles on here, and honestly, I’m sure I do it way more than anyone else. I have a much smaller display than your Note 3 on my Nexus 5, and I don’t really see an issue. The ad can easily be removed, and the share buttons aren’t really “in the way,” but that’s my opinion. We still have a big list of things we’re “fixing” and working on, so stay patient with us. We don’t have a huge staff of designers or huge budget to work with. Either way, thanks for sticking around.

          • Tim242

            There’s no reason to have a floating top bar. The search doesn’t work on phones. The search box won’t stay there long enough to click in it to type. As far as the social sharing box…just leave it at the top. Why have it follow me as I scroll? It is obnoxious and takes up screen space. It is absolutely in the way. As far as the ad, I know I can “x” it. But having to do so on every article is annoying. That part will be fixed when I root. This site is the only reason I use Ad blocking. I’m not against ads, but they shouldn’t float on my display.

          • Adrynalyne
          • Tim242

            Maybe that part is a Chrome thing. It does not work on Chrome.

          • Adrynalyne
          • Tim242

            Why are you arguing this? This proves you are just a troll. You know getting that to work took you several tries. When you click search in any browser, the bar pops up and quickly disappears. Anybody can try it and see that it doesn’t work properly.

          • Adrynalyne

            https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-h2DGbL6uN2Q/Up9u0yLfQHI/AAAAAAAACsE/R5bUsL25KmE/w486-h864-no/Screenshot_2013-12-04-11-04-33.png

            Several tries? Hardly. I am just smarter than someone crying about it. it works the first time for me. If you want to stop being a prick, I will show you how to use it.

          • Tim242

            No, you are an obnoxious troll. If you were a real dev, you wouldn’t claim that broken search function as functional.

          • Adrynalyne

            If you were intelligent, you would realize it works. Not perfectly, but it is functional.

          • holdthiscat

            This is a fun little argument…but I think both of you have some valid points. I found that if you double-tap the search button in Chrome, the search bar will stay put and allow you to type in your search. Not perfect? Matter of opinion. Works perfectly if you double-tap…but that’s not very intuitive.

          • Adrynalyne

            I slid my finger down from search.

            Not intuitive, but not functionally broken either. It just needs some polishing, which as tim-o-tato said, is still being done.

          • holdthiscat

            You’re right. Works both ways. Good call.

          • Tim242

            You know it doesn’t work properly, yet all you posted in your original reply was a screenshot. It took you this long to admit that it doesn’t work properly.

          • Adrynalyne

            You said it didn’t work at all, you fool.

            Talk about backpedalling. “it doesn’t work!” “Well it works, just not right!”

          • Tim242

            I did not say “at all.”. I simply said it doesn’t work, which is accurate.

          • Adrynalyne

            If you can make something work, then it works.

            So no, not accurate. I don’t expect a whiny cellphone salesman to understand these things, of course.

          • Tim242

            You shouldn’t have to make something work. If it is going to waste screen space, it should at least work properly. If you are married, I bet you argue a lot. I feel for her.

          • Adrynalyne

            Pot.kettle.black.

          • Tim242

            I never initiate messages with you to argue. I never initiate messages with you period. That is probably because you only post replies to people to argue. I post questions to answers, and provide feedback. You may not like what I have to say, but I am not here to argue with everyone. That is your sole purpose for posting here. I will save us both some time and just not respond to your nonsense.

          • Adrynalyne

            Thank god. Please never reply to me again. Discus thanks you!

          • Tim242

            I just tried it on the TW browser. It does the same thing. You had to do some fast finger clicking to type in it. It disappears the same in both browsers

          • Adrynalyne

            Nope. No fast tapping involved.

            Slide your finger down to the search box from tapping the search button.

          • HarvesterX

            It’s not rocket science. I can get the search bar to show up every single time I try on the stock AOSP browser. Clicking it twice works so does swiping it down.

            It’s not an exclusive issue with DL either. Web designers shouldn’t need to code around broken renderers, and the WebView class is far from perfect. Like the known issue which freezes the browser when certain frames try to cross reference other URLs that reside in a different domain. This site was notorious for it before they made this change. It also only affected certain devices with broken GRT libraries.

            Is it so hard to say “hey cool, I didn’t know that I could get search to work by swiping down ….thx!”…

          • JBartcaps

            You’re making it out to be a lot worse than it actually is. It really isn’t that bad man.

          • droidify

            Please don’t fix the bar. I like reading his constant whining on every thread. Didn’t you get the memo that the site was supposed to be custom tailored to fit him and his device?

          • Adrynalyne

            Its not big or wide enough yet to fit him.

            Zing!

        • chris125

          They also nit-picked about ads to awhile back when google was rumored to be putting ads in the dialer. Pot meet kettle…
          I understand the site needs to make money but the ads on the mobile version are a struggle to use the site.

          • HarvesterX

            Anyone complaining about the ads could easily fix that by downloading one of the hundreds of already made hosts files and either placing it in /system/etc if rooted, or if not rooted by pushing it over via adb.

            I can’t remember the last time I saw an ad to be honest.

        • Ihategays

          Tim, go eat a bag of dicks

      • gtg465x

        Can’t he scroll with his eyes too? He has a Samsung.

    • Just_Some_Nobody

      So, click that little ‘X’ to close the add.

    • Adrynalyne

      Maybe you should fix it since you think it is idiocy. Clearly you have the skills to do so, right?

    • starnovsky

      You should try Google Currents

    • droidify

      I thought you were “out”?

    • Danny

      You can also read Droid Life on the new Google Newsstand. It’s very minimalistic and nice

  • Such

    GS3 & N2 were solid phones but personally I think TW has become a little long in the tooth at this point, especially with the GS4 & N3. I even upgraded to a N3 and I’m kind of bored with it already. Unless they re-write TW to give an increased stock feel with less bloat (highly doubt it) I think I’m going to start passing on new phones from Sammy. What good are the specs if the software can’t keep up?

    • Tim242

      I’m about to install Beans ROM on my Note 3. It is completely AOSP themed, and debloated.

      • Such

        Yeah Beans ROM is siiick! I already have it on my N3, just think I might be over TW at this point.

      • 918273645ams

        But for those of us on AT&T with a still locked bootloader that’s not an option. I had a Note 3, enjoyed it. It was a great phone. My only issue was it was a little toooo big. I switched to the Nexus 5 and have been happy ever since — especially with an extra $350 in my pocket..

        • Such

          Yeah I know exactly what you mean. If I didn’t score a Developer Edition N3 on Verizon I probably wouldn’t have even bothered with it. But after using it for a while I don’t think it’s that much of an upgrade over the N2. N3 just seems marginally better coming from a N2.

  • bd1212

    Instead of increasing the resolution, why don’t they put their efforts into something that we all care about: BATTERY LIFE! Keep the display 1080p, use the more power-efficient next-gen processors, and include a bigger battery. That’s something we’d all appreciate.

    • SchwannyT

      Its called the Moto X :)

      • Mojor Izin

        droid maxx or bust

        • Ryan

          G2 gets better battery life than the MAXX. I found a few articles that tested this somewhere

      • David Parrella

        It’s called “carry an extra battery because it costs like $50 at MOST, and Samsung is so amazing that they still make them removable :)”
        Or something to that effect.

        • poop

          It’s not called that. Neither of those devices (Moto X or LG G2, to my knowledge) have removable batteries. You should be able to live off the actual battery, and if it becomes absolutely necessary (maybe you actually get through the day on low battery and something occurs that prevents you from charging for the next day), then you use the extra (assuming your battery is actually removable).

          • David Parrella

            No, I’m talking about the Galaxy S5, what this article is about…?
            I’m a power user and go through batteries like crazy. You’re right, if there’s a day where I’m more casual I never use my extra one, but it’s very nice having the ability to have a removable battery and, while Samsung isn’t using it as an excuse for poor battery life (something they’re not known for, all Samsung devices I’ve had have fantastic battery life,) I find it convenient and am thankful that they still provide the option.

          • HarvesterX

            Guess you skipped the Galaxy Nexus over then :)

        • bd1212

          It’s called that’s cumbersome and annoying and I don’t want to have to invest in separate chargers/batteries just to make it through the day when I know it’s possible to do just that on a single battery. I’ve can easily do it with a Moto X, and have in the past, and I can easily do it on a G2. There’s no reason why an S4 with a 2600mAh battery cannot get me through the day when a Moto X with a 2200mAh battery can get me through the day and then some with the exact same usage. Not everyone likes carrying two, three, or four batteries AND manage keeping them all charged just to get through a day. That’s annoying. The majority of people aren’t going to be carrying around multiple batteries just to get through a day; the majority of people will be expecting to be able to make it through a day without needing to recharge, and the sad thing is that many devices can barely even do that nowadays because all of the manufacturers seem to only be focusing on specs/thinness and ignoring the battery size. This recently has begun to change with LG packing a huge battery in the G2, and Motorola heavily optimizing the Moto X so that it can get tons of use out of it’s smaller battery.

          • David Parrella

            That’s all very well your own opinion, just as every feature with every phone is, all I’m saying is that I’m happy Samsung gives their customers the option.

          • bd1212

            See, but that’s just it; if they had an unremovable battery they’d be able to fit a bigger battery in the same space, and they could use different shaped batteries to take even more advantage of that space, whereas with a removable battery they have to make design decisions that will allow a safer, smaller battery to be easily removed and replaced. So, for example, while it may take two removable batteries in order for you to get through your day, it might only take one unremovable battery for you to get through your day. Removable isn’t always the answer.

          • Joey Funk

            this exactly. i had an S4 for exactly one week, and the battery life was terrible. i thought it would at least get me though the day, but it never did. i went back to my iphone and it gets better battery life with a battery almost half the size!

        • Mojor Izin

          no thanks, that’s extra effort and thought and energy. you know things my phone helps me conserve and increase, rather than waste like my samsung gnex that i had 4 extra batteries for ($7) each. just taking it out of a case and shutting it down alone isn’t worth the hassle. just get a better phone next time. only limiting factor on smartphone tech these days is battery.

    • EC8CH

      hello Moto?

    • crazed_z06

      Never heard of the Note 3?

      • bd1212

        What’s that got to do with anything? It’s too large for most people, myself included (and yes I’ve owned one). The Note 3, from my experiece, got worse battery life than my Moto X and G2, so again, the Note is irrelevant.

        • Adrynalyne

          Note 3 has worse battery life than the Note 2 as well. So it appears as time goes on, Samsung is undoing the improvements they made with the battery (merely increasing the size of device for a bigger battery).

          • UniBroW

            meh, your mileage may vary. My note 3 definitively gets better battery life than my wife’s note 2 but that’s only telling half of the picture.

          • Adrynalyne

            My wife stole my Note 2. That said, I am working in the same place I always have, and have the same crap symbol I had with the Note 2.

            Yet I consistently end up with 15-20% less with the same amount of usage as I did with the Note 2.

          • michael bourgoin

            my wife had the note 2 and now has the note 3. For her the battery was much better on the 2. Shes not a huge power user either, but its noticeable. The 3 needs to be charged everyday for her where with the 2 she could easily go 2 days. Its not a huge deal though bc it makes it a whole day on one charge for her and that’s what it’s all about imo. I’ve used the note 3 in the car on trips and stuff to stream movies and it couldnt keep up the way the note 2 did. So, for me and my wife, we see a noticable degredation in battery over generations.

          • Adrynalyne

            Thats my experience too. I could get away with missing the charger one day on the Note 2 and squeeze by (barely) on day two. If I do that now, I will be in the red before I even get to work the next morning.

          • UniBroW

            one thing I’ve noticed, and not been able to figure out (t-mobile Note 3) is that I get excessive awake time, usually once every 24hrs. If I restart the phone in the morning, after it’s topped off, all is fine throughout the day. Either way, I usually end up with about 40% battery left when I go to bed and I turn on wifi tethering in the car (about 90 mins total) and usually end up with about 3 or so hours of screen on time and still have the aforementioned 40% battery life. If I don’t restart though, my battery life is worse. Try using wake lock detector to see if it’s actually your phone or perhaps an app. I know that google search (on my Nexus 10 and Note 3) also had been just getting stuck and keeping the processor awake for hours and hours unnecessarily after one of the last updates. Disabled Google now and that fixed that issue, not sure if they’ve fixed that awake issue since then but obviously that’s not on my phone.

          • Adrynalyne

            That could be part of it too. My Note 3 also seems to be peppered with awake time.

          • Dave

            I returned my GN3 and will keep using my GN2 for a while I’m guessing. Plenty fast and never worse than 36-48 hour battery on 6-8 hours screen time.

          • RetsuUnohana

            Sorry, but my Note 3 last over two days if I use auto dimm but full brightness its a day and 10 hours and still have 23% left. I use it a lot , screen time is about 7-10 hours of use. So his comment does make sense. Worst comes to worst people can buy a better battery online. I’m not rooted or any special battery apps. Don’t believe me? Go check the Note 3 XDA forums people are in love with the battery life. All I did was disable stuff I never use (mostly S adds ons) like stay awake while looking at it, keep track of eyes etc only left on S beam and NFC. All my pen options are on by the way.

          • Adrynalyne

            All the other comments agreeing with me here say otherwise kiddo.

          • RetsuUnohana

            Than maybe you could be a big boy and check an XDA forum or any fourm which proves otherwise.. and not many are agreeing with you kiddo.

          • Adrynalyne

            I can be a big boy eh?

            So my own experiences cannot be used to justify my stance? That is cute.

          • RetsuUnohana

            Not at all. I said my experience and you counter with smart remarks. That is cute. Go be a good husband and get your wife a Hyperion battery 6400 mAh if its that much of an issue.

          • Adrynalyne

            Why does my wife need a battery?

          • RetsuUnohana

            Your complaining about battery life and used her experience as branding the Note 2 and 3 as crappy battery life. I’m using a 3200mAh it last longer than what you say. So if you want to help her with a longer battery, buy the 6400mAh one for her.

          • Adrynalyne

            Where did I say the Note 2 has poor battery life? Better yet, where did I say the Note 3 has poor battery life?

            I am interesting in seeing this.

          • RetsuUnohana

            You imply that its not as good too. “Note 3 has worse battery life than the Note 2 as well.” (its well know the N2 had an iffy battery)

            Instead of fighting your way out of your mistake or nit picking things, you should read what others also say about the Note 3 and 2 but again, you only read what you want to read. Complain about battery life on a phone that has the option to upgrade to a higher one is pointless. Your also under the idea that a few bad comments = all Note phones have bad battery life. Your dead set on it , and I did read all the comments before I responded and they are 50/50 if not more positive on Note 3 being a better phone battery wise. A statement like “Note 3 has worse battery life than the Note 2 as well.” is being passed off as facts, when its not. Many places say otherwise, as a matter of fact a poster even said mileage may vary. Go to multiple battery life threads in forums, they are positive, and non rooted or running anything special.

          • Adrynalyne

            Note 2 has great battery.

            Note 3 has worse battery than the Note 2. It is not implying anything other than its not as good. You filled in the blanks all on your own.

            I classify good battery life as a device that can last me until i go to bed. The Note 3 does, but the Note 2 did it better.

            Is it because the Note 3 can’t handle bad signal as well as the Note 2? Probably.

          • FAL_Fan

            Honestly I find my Note 3 to have better battery life. One thing is that when I am in a strong 4G area I lose about 1% every 2 hours on idle, I would lose 2% an hour at the same location on idle with the Note 2.

          • Adrynalyne

            I lost 2% just showing a screenshot of my poor battery life to a friend yesterday.

          • BroRob

            3 out of 9 agree with you… so far.

          • Adrynalyne

            I get downvotes for posting, regardless of what it is.

            Not worshipping Samsung on here earns downvotes too.

          • HarvesterX

            The Note 3 can easily last two days, if all he does is send a few texts a day and maybe light phone calls and nothing else. In other words, you’re 100℅ correct. Nobody who uses their note 3 moderately to heavy (hell even conservatively) will make it that long. If he cripples the device by lowering display to 0℅ and disabling sync and using 3G or airplane mode and avoids any activity that uses the radio then sure..but the only people doing that are those who want to brag about how awesome battery life they get. I’ve seen it since I first started on android forums many many devices ago. People would get crazy battery life but once they showed the chart of their usage you could see it was in deep sleep most of the time.

            I have a G2 and am a HEAVY user and the phone sometimes last me all day withroom to spare or if I’ve been gaming or doing a pot of typing on the net, have to he charged after 7-8 hours. If I just used the device to answer incoming calls and to make calls and answer texts, it would easily go two days+ . Im at 66℅ now and it was taken off the charger yesterday at 8am. I haven’t been doing much either, except responding some here and on xda and doing some coding (AIDE is an awesome app).

            I guess you both are 100% right then…depends on how it gets used. I’m basing my data off the G2 though…I imagine if I had the Note 3 this would have been on the charger overnight.

            Bottom line is if you want to make crazy claims on battery life (even if it’s true), be prepared to back it up with a photo.

            http://halsey01.tumblr.com/post/69077068758

            http://halsey01.tumblr.com/post/69077173799

            http://halsey01.tumblr.com/post/69077215266

            Edit: I haven’t been using the device heavily obviously, but screenshots are always good to post when dealing with battery because then we can see the usage pattern. A blanket statement of “my phone lasts 72 hours” means nothing unless we can see how so.

          • Adrynalyne

            I hooked up my phone up to my IDE last night and was monitoring logcat…

            I have a core that keeps shutting off and turning back on, over and over.

            I have a feeling if I can figure out what is causing that, I will regain some battery life.

            I like his claim of 7-10 hours of screen time. I had a screenshot of the gnex getting 8 hours screen on time.

            Sadly, i deleted it, but you can see the reasons here:

            http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26931128

            So yeah, as you said, be prepared to backup your claim.

          • Dave

            I have developed a great phone relationship with a Samsung senior tech advisor from calling so many times, he just gave me his extension. He says while the SD series are more powerful, the native Exynos chipset in the GN2 is far more power efficient, likewise with their experience with the new AOcta ts series as well.

          • Adrynalyne

            I still don’t understand the need for different SoCs for international units and US units.

          • Dave

            I’d guess it has to do with global demand and supplier pricing and availability in different markets.

    • RedXander

      Is it any surprise? Samsung’s motto has been “The next big thing is here.” Even if that “next big thing” doesn’t make much sense for the end user it’s a marketing bullet that can be touted. Samsung makes decent phones but their real success has come from their marketing.

      • PhillipCun

        This is particularly obvious this year with the Moto X, HTC One, LG G2 all having some kind of advantage over the S4. S4 seemed boring this year…

    • WCM3

      It’s called the LG G2. ;P

      • bd1212

        Mine is being delivered tomorrow. Throwing KitKat on that bad boy and calling it a Nexus. :)

        • WCM3

          You mean this boy? White Verizon G2? (Please forgive me in advance, photo taken with a Moto X) :)

          • bd1212

            Yep! It’ll be here tomorrow! I’m pumped, although I’m not sure how much I’m gonna like the white… we’ll see.

      • Valerie Rub

        Before 3 years LG G2 user now Nokia And Q Mobile selling is up to date.

    • Trueblue711

      Agreed. My GS3 battery life is half of what the iPhone gets. I haven’t heard much better about the S4. Samsung should really pull a Razr MAXX for the GS5 — that would win so many people over. It’s the main reason people still buy Moto Razrs still.

      • jim

        my wife has the gs3 and has no problem with battery, last an entire day with no problems, sometimes she forgets to plug in at night and the next morning its going strong

        • MicroNix

          Same with my wife’s S4. In fact, besides the Maxx series, I’d like to see any other Android phone go up against a Samsung for battery life.

          • zUFC

            I’ve had both. they both were awful. I know everyone is different but both those phones did NOT cut it for average to above average life.
            If you guys get plenty of life with yours, that’s great. For me I always had to worry at night if it would last or not.
            P.S. The G2 is the other phone besides the Maxx with best batt. life. Oh my god, it is unreal. It is the phone I’ve been waiting for. the only odd ball thing is the buttons on back. Everything else is the best. I have mine as close to stock android as possible. And some of the LG widgets and apps are amazing. Kept most of them. But the battery life is amazing. I don’t like the Maxx(same old design over and over) so this G2 is the best as far as I’m concerned.

    • SeanPlunk

      While I agree with you 1000%, the rumor is that the GS5 may have up to a 4000mah battery. If that’s the case the display is still overkill, but I would imagine the battery life would still be great.

    • T4rd

      I think this is more of a core Android issue than it is for the OEMs (as demonstrated by the Nexus 5). It’s sad that stock Android doesn’t even have any power saver mode (that I recall) while pretty much every OEM has implemented this in some way. A 2300 mAh battery should me more than enough to get you through the day when an iPhone can do it with ~1400 mAh. Apples (no pun intended) to oranges, I know, but the point is that they can do it with a mobile phone on similar hardware, so it’s definitely possible if they would focus on it instead of some other non-critical features.

      • Adrynalyne

        To be fair, Apple keeps a lot less things running in the background. Even with iOS7, the multitasking is a shadow of what it is with Android. They also use smaller screens, and turn off LTE while on a call.

        • T4rd

          I agree, but Android needs to manage its background tasks better or at least give us some options to restrict (resource hogging) apps from running in the background. I shouldn’t have to root my phone and use Greenify to keep apps from constantly waking my phone and using data or trying to find my location. The only option we have is to restrict background data on cell connections when you have a data cap specified on the phone. I want to restrict it from running at all unless I open it myself and it’s in the foreground.
          In that way, I almost prefer the way iOS does multitasking. There’s only a handful of apps that I care about enough to want them running in the background.

          • Adrynalyne

            Recently had some friends get ticked off because whenever they shut off their iPhone screens, it would kick them out of IRC.

            I agree with you, by the way.

        • Just_Some_Nobody

          My G2 seems to turn off LTE when I’m on a call. Every time, the icon turns from 4G/LTE to 4G (I’m on AT&T).

          • Adrynalyne

            It might be an ATT thing. I don’t have a G2 to test, but that is not how it usually works with Android devices.

          • Diablo81588

            Correct. ATT uses LTE for data only.

          • Adrynalyne

            Verizon does too, which is why I find it weird that ATT would kill LTE during a call. Its never been like that with other data technologies.

    • Intellectua1

      Stock Samsung phones have REALLY good battery life.. When you start flashing custom roms on them that’s when the battery life goes down hill.. I’ve had several Samsung phones and that’s always the case..

      • bd1212

        I disagree. With my Galaxy S4 I could barely get 3-3.5 hours of screen-on time with 14-16 hours off the charger on the stock ROM. I flashed ROM after ROM to get better battery life; some sucked and made it worse, while others made it much better (ex. CM10.2). Eventually, I found a custom ROM that was based on the stock Samsung ROM except it had all of Samsung’s crap taken out. With that ROM I was easily able to get 4-4.5 hours of screen-on time with 16-18 hours off the charger. That’s a HUGE increase IMO. With CM10.2 on my S4, I could get even better battery life at times. Samsung’s stock ROM is extremely bloated and is loaded with so much crap that just sucks up battery. It’s a fact, plain and simple. Stock Android offers the best battery life compared to every manufacturer ROM and it always will.

      • HarvesterX

        The Galaxy Nexus definitely didn’t fall into that list. having a first generation 4G modem didn’t help matters either. I had to use am external wall charger to charge batteries while I was using another and by the time one battery died, the other battery would only be at 21% (my USB flex had died so couldn’t charge it via USB…). Forgetting about that phone and moving on…

        I’ve never been impressed with Samsung’s devices and only purchased the Nexus because, well I was coming from the OG Droid and the GNex was the next best step up (at the time). I would have sold that phone in a heartbeat if not for the awesome development.

        The SG5 could he interesting however due to possibly having the latest Adreno (405?). The best device though that Samsung has delivered so far has been the Galaxy Nexus (was a beautiful phone besides the horrible battery). Just my opinion though.

        They just rehash the same phone from the last generation and toss in best hardware they can find at the time (which is even up for debate, as their displays have never impressed me at all). It’s not a bad formula and it’s been working fine for them. It’s not very interesting though, which is why all their products come out tasting stale even though they were freshly baked.

    • MicroNix

      You must have never owned a Samsung smart phone….

      • bd1212

        If you had read my other replies, or even one that just two posts about yours, you’d see that I’ve owned the Note 3 and Galaxy S4.

    • bd1212

      I honestly wonder who the two people that downvoted me are and for what reason? Do they not like battery life? Some people are weird, man.

  • gregmr

    Yes because benchmarks are always a real-world test of performance and Samsung would never rig them

    • Tim242

      HTC and LG were pointed out for doing the same thing.

      • SchwannyT

        I know just think how secret they could keep their new stuff if they could just find some way to hide their model number from the benchmark… or maybe stop posting them somehow…..

    • http://thebeeobee.com/ thebeeobee

      HAHAHAHAHA

  • John C.

    Please no stupid hypebeast train pics. Those things are getting old lol.

  • Ryan

    2k screen more battery drain, touchwiz will drain more battery….This is why I like my G2. Nice screen great camera and loooong battery life.

    • Tim242

      LG’s crappy skin is worse. You only get loooong battery life due to the 3000 mAh battery.

      • Just_Some_Nobody

        And the S800 processor.

        LG’s ‘skin’ is a lot nicer than TW. But that’s a personal preference.

        • confused.

          What does everyone hate about the stock LG skin? It seems the majority of people that have the G2 on XDA are keeping the Stock skin and just debloating it/making slight mods to it. Seems most hate is from people who never used it.

          • TuckandRoll84

            The skin on the G2 was the reason I went with the Moto X. As soon as I picked the G2 up all I could think of was how cluttered everything was. I understand that you can root, rom, theme, or whatever but my personal preference is clean and stock.

          • Adrynalyne

            Cluttered is a good term for it. I came away with that same impression, although it was the back buttons that killed it for me. I just didn’t care for them.

          • John

            I think some of it depends what G2 version you have. I know ATT and Sprint have more clutter under the notification bar that Verizon version doesn’t have (sound and brightness sliders). But you can get rid of a lot of the clutter without even requiring root access. Plus If i want i can easily put ASOP on my G2 and have way better battery and specs. To each its own though.

          • HarvesterX

            Yep. We are using deodexed 4.2.2 base ROMs and removing the bloat and leaving in all the useful Optimus UI stuff. Then from there you have the framework to make your own build. I tried to use an AOSP 4.3 ROM but ended up flashing hack to a 4.2.2 and then meticulously ported over 4.3/4.4 libraries that would work along with the apps and have ended up with a blazing fast phone without insane battery life. It says 4.2.2, but it’s more like a 4.3/4.4 hybrid. Once we get updated binaries then we can work on 4.4 Optimus ROMs.

            I’ve been on AOSP way back since my OG Droid and this UI is actually refreshing. It has more to do with what’s under the hood. I use Nova as my main launcher but have the LG Launcher set up exactly the same, and also using the GEL launcher (mix things up a lot).

            Optimus UI is leaps and bounds better then TouchWiz man…

        • Ryan

          LG’s Optimus layout is cluttered but I have made it my own and grown to like it. It doesn’t lag and works for me. Just because it works for one person doesnt mean someone else wont like it. Like you said personal preference.

      • joejoe5709

        It’s not worse. I have yet to read a review or hear a testimony that says so. At the very least they copied Samsung. By most accounts, it’s better than Touchwiz but still nowhere near ideal. Yes the large battery is a big factor, but so is the processor and LG’s battery sipping software. It’s only got 400 mAh more than the S4 yet it gets at least 50% more life.

    • j

      2K screen and S800 are a major deal breaker. Just do yourself a favor and be like this guy and buy an LG G2 now instead of waiting 8 months for the same thing.

  • Verizon

    and it will still lag thanks to touchwiz

    • gregmr

      Bloatjizz

    • Michael Bell

      My Note 3 doesnt lag, even a little. It does things faster than stock phones like my roomates N5

      • Adrynalyne

        Must be a magical Note 3. Even reviews note that it stutters here and there.

        Not that its lag–its a framerate drop.

        • Michael Bell

          Well a stutter is quite different from lag now isnt it? Regardless, I have never seen either.

          • Adrynalyne

            As I said, magic Note 3.

          • Chris Cain

            I have a magic Note 3 too! So lucky! :D

          • Adrynalyne

            Indeed. Sorry if I take what you say at face value when I have my own Note 3, and have read many reviews confirming the issue.

    • mustbepbs

      Oh it’ll lag even worse because of the resolution.

  • Dan Carter

    Why? Whhhhhyyy? 2K, seriously?

    • Jugo Aich

      Human eye can’t even resolve that pixel density!

      • Just_Some_Nobody

        Someone is going to come along and dispute you. They’ll claim to be able to see ant whiskers from 2 miles.

    • crazed_z06

      Because 720P is old news?

      • jhlinka

        The GS4 has a 1080p display though!

      • Ian Case

        If they put a 4.7″ 720p screen on it, with a 3500mah battery and a SD800, they’d get 3 days of battery life.

    • EC8CH

      to justify newer more power and expensive GPU’s.

      I’m all for more pixels… but at some point it becomes absurd on a 5″ screen…. I think we’re there

      • Adrynalyne

        Ermaghed, 2K, lets take the spotlight off our crap overlay!

    • 918273645ams

      Probably just because they can… I don’t see a point past 1080p.. They should stick wtih 1080p and put in a bigger battery. No one truly gives a f about a 2k resolution on a phone. I’m still happy with a 1080p resolution on a 55″ tv.. Maybe I’m the only one.

      • Dan Carter

        As Nilay Patel of the Verge said the other day, Samsung’s slogan should be “Samsung – why not?”.

      • normmcgarry

        I’m with you. I’m totally cool with a 720p phone even. Just gives better rendering performance.

      • Just_Some_Nobody

        ” I don’t see a point past 1080p..”

        I see what you did there…

        • 918273645ams

          I didn’t do that on purpose. I’m glad you pointed that out. Thanks for making me feel subconsciously witty.

    • npompei

      I understand your questioning – however:
      Can you imagine if they ‘only’ put a 1080 screen in it or the likes? These companies need to stay on the bleeding edge because of us needy nerds. “Oh jeez it’s only got an 8mp camera?!” “Oh my god, this phone only has a 28bit chipset processor (elf line)” Dude, they have to because of the way customers have gotten. How much do we make fun of Apple because it ‘only’ has this spec or that compared to certain Android phones. If Samsung doesn’t put in the newest tech and say LG or Motorola does they will miss the boat. It’s sad and I call it the ‘Best Buy’ teenage worker syndrome. “Oh let me show you the newest 8 billion mp camera…”

      • Dan Carter

        Samsung helped fuel this spec war pissing contest and now they’re beholden to the monster they created. I get what you’re saying tho. I mean, look at Motorola. They rejected the spec wars and have had a hard time selling the Moto X (I personally believe it was more the AT&T exclusive but who really knows). But I really think specs only matter to a few nerds. Samsung sells millions of phones to people who have no idea what a 2K screen is.

        • MicroNix

          While specific specs may only apply to nerds, have you ever listened to an Apple announcement before? They throw out a ton of numbers on how its x times faster, xx% lighter,etc. They may dumb it down but specs are specs which can be sliced many different ways. Didn’t they even use (gasp) 64-bit as a marketing point in the last iPhone announcement??

    • http://techonblogger.ward.pro/ Stynkfysh

      I’m going to guess that Samsung throws everything out there so they are not called Apple copy cats when Apple releases something, and so that when Apple does release something new, its not so new because Samsung has already done it. The rumor is a big screen iPhone next year. If it has a 2kish resolution, the interwebs will think it’s the best phone ever created and that anything under 2k resolution sucks…

    • Cael

      Because Samsung has to include every possible gimmick it can on each new flagship. GS6 = 4K!

    • PhillipCun

      Samsung only believes in the spec wars and copying anything successful.

    • Justin W

      Y2K!?!?!?!?!