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Spec Comparison: iPhone 5s/5c vs. Galaxy Note 3 vs. Moto X vs. Galaxy S4 vs. More

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The Apple announcements are in, and we have a new iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c to swoosh around our brains like Drano. I think you can probably imagine how we feel about each, especially if you joined us during our live blog, so this is the technical comparison. We’ve got the specs of each pulled directly from Apple’s site, compared to the leading Android devices of the moment. A few things were missing, like RAM and battery capacity, but we’ll likely see those before long and will try to update.

Until then, jump below to take it all in. 

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  • Steven James
  • Texas117

    I feel I must apologize for mucking up this comment thread. Long live Android.

  • I have been a big iPhone fan so far. But I also try to look at the better specs. So far, iPhone was very beautiful to me. With Moto X and Galaxy S4 out in the market, I now have to really think if the new iPhone is really worth buying for such a high price. I am comparing the Moto X and Galaxy S4 at the moment to see which makes a better choice. Any suggestion between those two phones – Moto X and Galaxy S4? Thanks!

    • GregSki86

      S4 spec wise I’d say. IPhone is just not worth the price tag, they should’ve priced it $100-150$

  • ash

    Have you all seen the movie called Silicon Valley with that guy from E.R. and falling skies who plays steve jobs, not the new crap movie called JOBS? Anyhow, it shows XEROX invented the first Visual OS but Apple took it from Xerox with their permission and then Bill Gates borrowed a MACINTOSH with the built in Visual OS and reversed engineered it to get Windows. He did get permission from Jobs to borrow the computer but under false pretense, he didn’t think Bill as gonna rip him off, they had teamed up to take down IBM.

    MY POINT IS THAT EVERYONE STOLE AND STEALS FROM EVERYONE!

  • Domdym

    They emphasized 64 bit because it’s still dual core and not much of an increase in clock speed. But they made it 64 bit for the increases in cache performance and other underlying Benefit. Without sacrificing more silicon and keeping power consumption down. It’s all due to apple not wanting to buckle and increase the phone size which would make more room for including pcb, battery, nfc and more
    Overall the device without much increase in multitasking will run likea rocket with that cpu gpu and ram. Just so darn small though!

  • tjparker
  • Bill

    No LG G2

    • Aron Tripp

      Look again! It’s listed under “LG G2”

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  • viewthis66

    the USB on the Note 3 is 3.0 as well. that should be on the sheet.

  • Chippah

    NOTE 3 DOES have WIRELESS CHARGING – Fix your graphic Kelly, lol

  • Jonathan
  • Jay

    I’ve started to read the comments more than the articles more often now. More amusing than Reddit sometimes.

  • M3D1T8R

    Wait, they released two new phones and didn’t even announce how much RAM they have? Or battery size?

    Only Apple…

  • droidrazredge

    I wonder how many iPhone 5 users are holding out for the iPhone 6 instead of getting the iPhone 5S because they think it will have x128 and be twice as fast as the x64 in the iPhone 5S.

    • Texas117

      Lol. I’m holding out for the iPhone 6 because it may have a larger screen and a larger battery that makes its already energy efficient OS operate even longer on a charge. My iPhone 4S has served me pretty well so far, and with Apple mobile devices, I can use inline volume rocker controls on high end headphones. I highly doubt that 128-bit will arise for another few years, because it won’t begin paying for itself (the R&D that goes into it) nearly as soon as 64-bit will.

      All it is, is preference. I am accustomed to iOS, so it is a logical choice. But I am considering other options in the Android spectrum. My decision will all come down to, “which device serves me most effectively and efficiently. I understand yall like you’re features and customizability. But if I work best with a simple, constant interface, I will get the iPhone. And features that are of useless or unenjoyable to me, and are only included to boost the number of features, it’s only clutter. And as an engineering major, it is my job to learn to build and improve systems that are the most useful and efficient.

  • NotHatinInTexas

    Honestly DL community, you tarnish the name of Android with your nearly rageful hate of Apple and your condescending disdain for anything and anyone associated with Apple. What the £ψ€& is yall’s problem? I was seriously switching from iPhone to Android by upgrading (next fall) to a Galaxy S5 or the HTC One’s successor, but now, I may just stick with an iPhone 6, out of fear that I will become a total DΦΨ€ΗΣ like yall.

    Seriously, Apple Insider doesn’t give a $#!+ one way or the other about Android, and instead focuses on why Apple is awesome. But when Apple does anything, yall jump on it and stomp it into the mud.

    Anyway, I probably wasted my time here, but I need somewhere to vent my disgust.

    Oh, and um. Have fun with your passcodes…

    • Knlegend1

      Lol I just seen it in action and it takes about the same time literally for it to scan your finger. Oh and Motorola did the finger print scanner in 2011.

      To the rest of your comment you are correct. On the surface the iPhone 5S isn’t impressive but underneath is something that will push the industry forward.

      • Droid 1967

        what am i missing what underneath will push the industry forward?

        • Knlegend1

          You are missing a lot.

          • Droid 1967

            It was an actual question. Please tell me what it is that im missing so i can see what it is. I truley do not see anything here that is forward. what is it im missing? thanks

          • Knlegend1

            64 bit processing. For this phone its useless I agree but for the industry its important. Imagine what the next iPad will be capable of with this.

          • Droid 1967

            really 🙂 ok nevermind. Just for info. android runs in VM. and the adressing is set in the processor. all cortex A-15 can support 40-bit addressing which is about 1 terabyte so 64bit does nothing for android at this time. and android doesnt have the memory addressing issue.
            The whole 64 bit is advertising it does very little more than that at this time.
            I find it hard to believe that something is bringing anything forward when the thought and implementation of 64bit was actually started by IBM in 1961 on the processor level and os level by cray in 1985.
            low powered processors already done by samsung , moto ,s800.
            I continue to see nothing here that is important to the industry.
            and you need to watch a few more commercials and see what the ipad already cant do 🙂
            Camera-well they dont even have the best of those anymore,but it does continue to be better than most of the main stream android phones . but their new part of it using same idea as htc. Probably neither thought of this probably from sony or some real camera manufacturer. But i think apple has always been known to have a good camera.
            oh i forgot the plastic ok that is revolutionary.

            Sorry I just dont see im missing anything here.

          • Knlegend1

            We shall see. I think you are being short sighted only thinking about this phone. Apple is obviously setting up for something bigger. Marketing? To who? You want to talk about marketing how about quad-core on our mobile devices? I think 4.4 will be the first time its actually going to be used. So there hasn’t been a benefit there either but future proofing the devices. That’s all they are doing. I’m not buying one and I’m guessing you aren’t either.
            Speaking of cameras I remember when they said cameras on phones were dumb. Now they are major selling points. Just because we can’t take full advantage of it now does equate it to not being revolutionary. The HTC Evo is turning over in its grave.

          • Droid 1967

            marketing to people who dont know what 32 and 64 bit is as 64 must be better than 32 that kind of thing. I just dont see it as anything special or that wont be done by ms, android, or any other os if its needed. Just dont see adding something to the phone that has been out for over 20 years when it currently has no real use as anything that leads something forward that wouldn’t be done when needed by everyone anyways. on the 4 core front that continues to be up for debate. the kernels in android are unix based and can indeed handle the 4 cores. i am still on my gnex and love it. example moto x. seems like the set up there is working well per the people who have used it and its definitely not the latest and greatest hardware so obviously some things arent needed yet. But moto x isnt for me for other reasons nothing to do with its 8x stuff. and i think the camera on the gnex is jsut great so i guess im not a judge on the cameras from my eyes 🙂
            The biggest improvement in the new iphone is the low core processor but from what they are listing as their battery times it really seems to be a worse chip than previous. and i have several iphone users at work and they all have to plug in during the shift already.
            I see it this way. what would i think of the new nexus if it had the same increased features as the iphone a year later.
            My thoughts would not be positive and would not even get a thought of getting it even though it was a nexus it would not be worth my money.
            could the ios6 switch to 64 bit mean they are going to come out with a killer phone next year that needs this technology of course it could has apple shown me that would be the case NO.
            Apple continues on their string a new phone every 2 years. and a rehash inbetween. None of which i am impressed with. and non of which shows me anything other than takes from last years ideas from android or their phone partners.
            ok well ill end it there think overall we are on the same page:) just differing opionions on the 64 bit. i jus dont see adding 20 year old tech to a phone before its needed as evolutionary as anyone can do it at any time as each os used by he major players bigger brothers already have 64 bit. and it appears to me that android thought ahead on this and built the system to not have the limitations that 32 bit systems usually have. albeit I believe at some hit to performance.

    • Tim242

      Uh, and um I guess you missed the thousands upon thousands of Aplle pricks that acted like idiots when Android got Instagram. There is way more hate and fear from the apple cult. Don’t be blind.

      • Texas117 (fmr NotHatinInTexas)

        That’s not what I’ve seen. And the only response I’ve seen DL give to Apple in its articles has been utter contempt. DL maintains a condescending tone whenever they talk about Apple, something I haven’t seen Apple Insider do. But now Android fans are butthurt that iOS7 now has some features Android had first, so how are the two situations conceptually different? The reason Android and Apple incorporate features from each other is because those features are useful and/or enjoyable *to most people, regardless of what brands they use.*

        If you build a chair, it doesn’t make sense to hate everyone who builds a chair after you did.

        • Tim242

          That’s not what you see, because you have your apple fanboy blinders on. When Android got instagram, itrolls took to twitter by the thousands. They were mad because they wanted to feel elite…over instagram of all things. I guess you haven’t seen the iTrolls on BGR or Engadget. You came to an Android centric blog. Hell yes we hate apple. They steal from everybody, then sue everybody for what they stole. You really summed up your intelligence level when you claimed you probably wouldn’t get an Android phone, because you might become a fandroid troll. Are you so weak you let others determine how you act? I have news for you, your posts say that you are already an iTroll. I guess you are that weak.

          • Texas117

            Listen to yourself. You make negative, meritless assumptions about my intelligence and about why I have a problem with DL’s needless disrespect of Apple. Honestly, I don’t care who stole what from whom. Why can’t someone else make a tablet of their own? Samsung’s tablets came after the iPad, and they did get sued, but I don’t remember Apple suing over the Archos 5. But again, everyone who builds a chair wasn’t stealing from the inventor of the chair. Yeah, maybe the iPhone is restricted to its own ecosystem, but hey, I still use Chrome, YouTube, and such. I can make do just fine with what Apple offers. So quit prejudging me because I use Apple products and because Apple is the biggest competitor to Android. I came to DL for information on Android, and it spat me back out because I don’t hate Apple. Because I’m different. Now tell me that itself is not a form of bigotry.

          • Tim242

            You didn’t come here for Android information. Your only posts here are inflammatory posts, stereotyping Android users, while ignoring the rampant iTrolls. They are much worse, I assure you. There are strong feelings on both sides. The whole reason Android fans got up in arms to start with, was defending against the awful iPhone trolls. I’ve been around all the major blogs since 2008. Go to BGR and look at those iClowns that do nothing but type about cheap shamesung plastic toys all day. Go search twitter for #AndroidSucks #AndroidUsersAreNasty, #AndroidEwww. They all said Android users were all trailer trash that can’t afford the iPhone. They got plain nasty, because Instagram was no longer their private club. If you want to truly know about Android, you can learn a lot from us. But, you have to accept that we have dealt with too many iTrolls , and we don’t put up with them.

          • Texas117

            I’m wasting my time with you jerks. You think I am somehow inferior just because I use iPhone, when I never made any prejudice against you because you use Android, only judged what I saw. I don’t know why you think I’m something I’m not, but it doesn’t matter. I’m done here.

          • Tim242

            You got judged on your attitude. You didn’t post anything constructive, or informative. You didn’t ask any questions about Android. You came and immediately started typical trolling. There have been a lot of iPhone converts on here, that we have welcomed with open arms. You came here to troll, your attitude in your first post here proves that.

          • Texas117

            Before I go, I’d like to request a list of other Android-related sites that share the same view of Apple. Now, before you think I’m gonna troll them, listen. I won’t waste my time with them. I just want a list of sites that I can tell my google browser not to show hits from. Will you kindly oblige, sir?

          • Tim242

            You still aren’t taking responsibilityfor your part in tthis. You can’t come at people like you came at us an expect z positive outcome. Treat others as you would want to be treated.

          • Texas117

            Ok, I’m a dick sometimes too. Am I still inferior to you because I like Apple?

          • Texas117

            Ok, you’re right. I was out of line. But my point was that every Android fan who hates Apple fans for liking Apple and every Apple fan who hates Android fans for liking Android are also out of line. It just reminds me too much of how hatred among competing groups in society seems to be increasing. Maybe yall can be the first to bury the hatchet. Oh, wait. Then Apple fans would bury the hatchet, say they did it first, and sue you. Right?

          • Tim242

            I do not think you, or anybody else is inferior because you use the iPhone. I do think the iPhone is an inferior product, but I don’t judge people based on what they use. I bought an iPhone 5 on release day. I refused to give it a real try, until the screen got above 3.5″. I kept it two days. I felt so helpless. It couldn’t do half of what I needed it to do to fit my needs. Once you get used to the power that an Android flagship gives you, you feel like you’re going backwards on the iPhone, or any locked down OS. I am fortunate enough to be able to buy devices at full price, when I want to…but it still stings. In the last year, I’ve had a Note 2 and S4. I may get a Note 3, not sure yet. These devices are mostly media consumption, little phone use. I like having a device that best meets my needs as a whole. If I lived close, Is invite you out for a drink and show you reasons I prefer Android. Even if you decided it wasn’t for you, I wouldn’t treat you as if you are inferior. Again, I don’t hate Apple users, I hate their attitude, like your “enjoy your password” comment. I use pattern most of the time. Face unlock works reallywell on Samsung phones, but I like pattern. A fingerprint scanner might be a neat idea, but that is the least of my concerns.
            Give me control of my own device. You can’t fully utilize
            Bluetooth on iOS, you cant share files. You have no file system, no
            ability to download files from the browser. You are limited to
            emailing photos, no other file type. You have no customization.
            You can’t run any app that you want. I love the fact that even
            though Verizon blocks Google Wallet on its phones, I can still make
            it work anyway. That is funny as hell, watching reactions to using
            your phone to pay. Android is a playground my friend. Don’t knock it til you REALLY try it. If you choose not to, that’s your loss, and that’s OK! : )

          • Texas117

            uhhhhhh…… If there is anything I can say I hate, deep down, it’s my own delusion that I can speak eloquently to the masses and change their ways like MLK. But it seems that when I do, not only do I waste my own time that I could use to study, but I come across as an @$$hole no matter how hard I try to be “respectful.” I apologize. And I apologize on behalf of NotHatinInTexas (also me). I tend to get riled up about anything that challenges the “Golden Philosophy of Peace Love and Understanding for All” a completely silly notion. I oughta swallow my pride and quit trying to be the saviour who through his words, fixes the world’s problems.

            But maybe there’s hope for me yet. My roommie gave me a tour of his GSIII, and managed to rekindle my interest. But 1) I wish there were more headphone mic options that included volume rockers for Android (yes, Apple’s keep-you-in strategy works), and 2) UT doesn’t have an Android version of their handy app. And I could like a gold HTC One.

            And “enjoy your passcodes was meant as more of a jive, poking fun at the way some people use that type of tone and rhetoric to downplay the arguments or condition of others.

    • flosserelli

      ^^ Goes to an android blog and reads some less-than-flattering comments about Apple, then labels all DL readers as being total douches. Yep, that’s the kinda troll I’d like to see here more often. /s

      • Texas117 (fmr NotHatinInTexas)

        Troll? Hardly. I didn’t come here for that. I came here to read what I had hoped was an unbiased comparison of the iOS and Android, and what I found was pure contempt for all things Apple. I have been considering switching to Android, so I read what Android users have to say about their devices and the Android OS to learn more. I was down to considering a Galaxy S5 or an HTC One successor. I made the generalization about DL readers and writers because all I saw was condescending disdain for Apple, and not the slightest bit of respect for the people who use a different type of smartphone, save for a few reasonable people. Yall ruined it for me, thanks! I just don’t want to be part of a community that makes rude jokes and condescending remarks and sarcasm whenever Apple is mentioned, because I haven’t seen much Android hate on the Apple side. Yes, there is some, but come on. “Android free” iPhone 5C was a playful jab. We don’t sit around and tell people how much Android sucks just because it’s Android and not Apple, so why do you?

        So please, let me ask you a simple question: Why, exactly, do you hate or feel such disgust for Apple and Apple users and Apple products?

        • sportingchance

          If you go to an Apple forum you will find the same thing there. Not sure why we have become so fundamentalist about our cellphones. If I were a Psych grad student I would tempted to study why people are so rabid about their technology. Methinks it is much more than iOS vs Android.

    • Droidzilla

      I guess you missed the part in the keynote where they bragged that the phone was “Android free.” Or the last keynote where they had SIRI cracking lame jokes against Android and Samsung. Or the fiscal conference calls of years past where Jobs would deride Android openly during the call.

      Stop counting, sheep. Wake up.

      • Texas117

        Those are playful jabs, although Jobs did seem kinda crazed about that, true. Those aren’t constant bashes. I just don’t like seeing people with different mobile device brands at each other’s throats all the time.

        And I see what you did there, putting that comma after “counting.”

  • JohansonM18

    Xperia Z1?

  • droidrazredge

    I would have thought that Ron would have done this comparison :), but Kellex doing it is just as good! Speaking on comparison how does x64 architecture compare to the x8 architecture in terms of speed and software optimization?

    • samari711

      x64 was a big deal in the desktop/server space because 32bit OSes had a hard limit of 4GB of ram. It also means that data has to be cut up into fewer chunks when the processor is working with it, although that’s only a big deal when you’re working on a lot of data.

      We’re at least 2 years away from seeing phones with more that 4GB of ram and I don’t see the performance increase being that much on a phone’s work load. Maybe they’re trying to be forward looking so that by the time all the devs get around to porting apps for 32 bit to 64 bit the 64 bit tech will actually be needed. It took about 7 years between when the first x86-64 chips came out and when they were common and had decent software support.

  • BrothaDave

    I’m honestly surprised they didn’t upgrade the camera at all. 8mp is enough but with the new camera features I’m surprised they didn’t improve it a little bit. iOS 7 and the video/camera feature upgrades will be enough for most iPhone users but the 5c is pointless imo other than to make more money off people looking for a cheap way to say they have an iPhone.

    Waiting on Nexus 5 info since the Note 3 specs have been released already, it’s between those two for me. My GS3 needs an upgrade, I bought a new battery for it but it’s not doing the trick…..

    • Texas117

      They actually did upgrade the cam. They didn’t add pixels, but instead made the pixels bigger, allowing more light to be captured by the sensor. HTC did the same thing with the One’s 4MP sensor. Not to mention the iP5S’s flash LED’s are different colors, to get a more natural looking flash. It’s pretty interesting.

      • Droidzilla

        I just wish more OEMs would do like Nokia and throw on some decent glass and a Xenon flash. Is that too much to ask for in an Android phone?

      • BrothaDave

        Thanks I’ll have to look into that part a little more. It seems like they were very focused on the video/photo aspect of the phone, which is one of the primary features people use on their phones. I think the iOS upgrades alone are pretty cool and I’m not a fan of Apple of the iPhone, but I’m also not a hater

  • flosserelli

    1. Suddenly Apple’s Retina Display doesn’t seem so “revolutionary”.
    2. Only 10 hours “talk time”? Of course that means different things to different people, but surely Apple knew this figure pales in comparison to the competition. I’m surprised they even posted this spec.
    3. Still no NFC? Yeah, NFC transfers are still trying to get off the ground, but what happens if NFC gains momentum in 2013/2014? (it could happen) That brand new iphone is suddenly yesterday’s technology.
    4. Still no wireless charging option? Oops, I forgot that would counter Apple’s insistence that you buy a proprietary adapter/cable every few years, so I guess iphone users will never get that luxury.

  • shamatuu

    They already lost before they began. Other people agree with me so I don’t want to see bad comments on here. Specs aren’t everything but technology in mobile is growing fast and Apple does not care about being behind and just lost in sense of a long term stand point. Apple= Done

    • NotHatinInTexas

      Details or it didn’t happen.

  • Knlegend1

    I’m no apple fan but the 64-bit has just changed the game literally.

    • Yousef

      No it hasn’t. 64-bit only means that 64-bit apps will take more ram, which the iPhone might not have enough of. And with the debut of better multitasking on the iPhone, it might run out of ram quite often. That would lead to slow-downs. We won’t see any reason to implement 64-bit for a few more years.

      Also it means within a year or two every iPhone before the 5s might be unable to use newer apps. Apple fragmented iOs more than android in a single move.

      • Knlegend1

        Its not about the iPhone 5S its a chess move. To move the mobile space forward. Eventually someone had to prepare for the future.

    • Jason B

      While the mobile space moves fast, it’s still parallelling the desktop space.

      Now, tell me, how many 64-bit Windows or Mac apps have you used? Probably not many because programmers are still coding in 32-bit, so x64 versions of Windows have a 32-bit version of the OS overlaid in emulation to provide maximum compatibility. Now, how many LAA apps have you used? The maximum addressing space for 32-bit apps is 4GB.

      Tell me when a mobile app will address 4GB without being bottlenecked by either the piss-poor I/O rates of the SoC or the very narrow width memory bandwidth rate.

      Everyone is quick to call out gimmicks, yet no one is calling this out. Why?

      • Knlegend1

        Someone has to make the jump. I think the next iPad will benefit greatly from this move more so than this phone. As far as real world performance then its null but when it comes to gaming this is where we are headed. This is no gimmick because no one, not even our precious android been innovating. Everyone has been playing it safe.

        • Jason B

          It’s not innovation if it’s not feasibly usable at this time. Sorry.

          Addressing that much memory kills battery too, so unless we have some magical leap in battery tech, the unicorns will still be prancing around in people’s heads.

          • Knlegend1

            Well let’s wait and see. I have no issues admitting when I’m wrong. I still think apple is setting up for something much larger.

          • Texas117 (fmr NotHatinInTexas)

            Utility is feasibly useful. Innovation is taking the next step. Computing is going to move towards 64-bit anyway, so it has to start somewhere.

          • Jason B

            It’s true, and I wish the 64-bit era would hurry up already. However, if we’re still struggling with battery life, innovation needs to occur with battery tech first. There’s only so much clock/power gating SoC manufacturers can do to meet TDP.

            Phones need to be standard with 5000mAh in a reasonable package, for a reasonable price. We’re not there yet. Until then we have to keep relying on die-shrinks that reduce voltage draw and make architectural improvements that do the same

            x86/x64 doesn’t dominate the mobile space because ARM was much more power efficient. Even today, Intel is still having difficulty making a viable x86 alternative to ARM. Atom was atrocious.

      • Knlegend1

        Also its x86

  • dan

    i must admit, i’m a huge apple fan, i do keep an android phone like the S4 to switch back and forth because i do like to switch it up and customize my phone. However after seeing this iPhone 5S, nothing but a disappointment and i’m sure they’ll have a bunch of people switching. The Note 3 is where i would be making my next purchase.

  • Steamer

    It’s 112 grams because there’s no innovation in it

  • n11

    So what you’re REALLY trying to say is the new iphone just isn’t there.

  • webharsh

    I see the innovation .. new iPhone 5S/5C logo .. S and C within square.

  • Demonhunter
  • Bobby

    Actually the galaxy note 3 uses USB 3.0 , not micro USB

    On a side note, which do you prefer, the note 3 or 5s?

    • zepfloyd

      actually it’s USB 3 Micro B, and it will take the traditional USB2 micro USB on the one side of the new port.

  • Jimmyjammer

    Why are my fellow android lovers so condescending?

    • Destroythanet

      Not all of them. Fanboy douches are fanboy douches, regardless of whether they support Apple or Android lol. Haha, it’s kinda comedic how the fanboys on each side fail to see what morons they are and how similar they are to each other. 😉

      • Fools

        It’s all the more ironic considering the roots of the Android community originated in the “We are not rabid fanboys” camp. Now it seems the Android community has evolved into that which they aspired not to be – a bunch of rabid fanboys.

  • AMDman

    I think that Apple did what they’ve generally done with “S” releases. They’ve bumped the processing power and camera and in this case threw in the fingerprint scanning(which am I the only person who thinks this is neat? I generally never secure my phone but I’d consider it with that). So I don’t understand people balking at todays announcements. Hell, Samsung did the exact same thing with the GS4 and made like it was a whole new revolutionary device. I understand that this is an Android site and all but the level of hate being thrown around just because it’s a product from a competing company bogles my mind. At the end of the day the iPhone is a solid device that does everything it does well and without any fuss. And I don’t think anybody can deny that that new camera is PHENOMENAL. As soon as they launch one with a larger screen I’ll jump back aboard the apple train.

    • VelvetLlama

      The fingerprint scanning is very neat. Is it paying $200 for an upgrade neat… not so much.

      • AMDman

        Well you have to remember that for the most part, people who will be interested in the 5S will be those who currently own a 4 or 4S or a similarly timed android device. Sure there will be those who own a 5 or current android device considering the 5S, but for the most part it’ll be former. And for those folks I think that the improved camera, better processing combined with the jump to 64-bit on top of the fingerprint scanning will certainly be worth the $200 upgrade.

  • Daeshaun Griffiths

    the iphone camera is on another level. It just shat on everything. camera game done.

    • Godzilla

      I disagree, the S4 camera is better.

      • you’re wrong, godzilla. even the hold iphone 5 camera kills samsung ones.

      • Daeshaun Griffiths

        did you watch the keynote? it starts 50 minutes in. the burst mode is the best i’ve seen.

        • Godzilla

          that was indeed impressive but we’ll see how “deep” the images turn out. I am a semi pro photographer and the S4 camera has impressed me greatly.

      • Shaun

        How can you say that one is better than the other when you have not even used the 5s yet? Way to be objective.

    • Droidzilla

      Apple has always had decent cameras (all Sony units up until now), but Nokia has been and, from what I see here, will continue to be the king of the phone camera heap. Too bad the OS they use is also a heap.

  • Godzilla

    Stand by for Retina Scan. Identify Kirk, James T.

  • wmsco1

    GOOD MORNIN ! Viet Apple! So here we are at the APPLE EVENT. So tell us Ron , what will be the Big Game changer of the year, here at the 2013 Keynote. And how significant these changes are? And will this put Apple in the lead in the upcoming year in Android? What do you say Ron?…Ron?….RON!

  • paradoxicat

    My Sprint contract is up at the end of the month, and with no new Nexus device as of now, I think I’ll have to swallow my pride and bite the bullet on the 5S. I plan to sell it the day that the N5 is announced, but until then… I don’t even want to know until then. Pray that these next few months go by quickly until the N5 is announced.

    • GentlemanScholar

      What do you have now? I’m going from the GNex to the Nexus 5, and if no Nexus, the Moto X or a rooted G2.

      • paradoxicat

        Sprint GNex. For some reason though it’s a piece of shit(I don’t even know why, 4.3 is much better, but it’s still garbage). I thought maybe as an alternative I could see if someone wants to trade some random gsm smartphone, or donate an old one. I’ll see how I do this

        Moto X is nice, but idk I’d prefer better specs, and the G2 will be nice once it’s rooted, but idk how I feel about LG handling my updates. I’d rather wait for a N5

        also, I’m moving to Tmo so yeah

        • Skittlez

          just wait for the N5

  • dirtgod6

    Two iphones in one year will confuse iphone owners.

    • which one do I buy?!?!?!?!? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! boom.

      • GentlemanScholar

        Buy both or in multiple colors for different outfits.

  • Daeshaun Griffiths

    Did anyone notice the notifcation shade on ios7 is oddly similar to google now? Almost convenient approach to it too.

  • john0214

    Why does apple hate NFC

    • Armus

      Because they haven’t figured out how to invent it and sue others over it, yet.

    • Franklin Ramsey

      Because it hasn’t yet been 3 years since an Android phone had NFC so it must not exist yet.

    • LionStone

      Too open, haven’t figured how to proprietize it yet?

    • Texas117

      They don’t hate it, they just invented a way to do the same thing with a combination of existing wifi and Bluetooth technologies, and they are also able to do it over greater range of several feet rather than a centimeter between Galaxy S3+ devices. It therefore can be more versatile, not more intimate of a process than anyone prefers, and possibly backwards compatible with older devices or even multiple types of devices that support both wifi and BT. Welcome to Airdrop, Apple’s alternative to NFC.

  • Armus

    So how far had Apple’s stock fallen?

  • Armus

    I just find it funny that the above specs list finger print scanner as a comparison point – as if that feature matters

    • Of all the items listed today… that is the only one that is remotely interesting and new. If done well, its a nearly perfect pw.

  • joejoe5709

    Okay… I know the “spec war” is “over”, but Apple should have knocked this out of the park. They REALLY needed a solid bump. And within the Apple ecosystem it really wouldn’t have taken much of a bump to make a lot of people happy. Surely they’ve been watching the smartphone market. Surely they’ve done the research and performed countless trials with countless focus groups. And this is what they come up with? I didn’t expect anything near Android flagship specs because Apple does fine with half the specs and I definitely did not expect an increase in screen size. I get it Apple, I really do. But there’s really not a lot here to convince people to move from an iPhone5. Even those with a 4S might balk a little. I mean it’s so bad that they’ve resorted to comparing the phone to the original iPhone to make it sound better. Uuuuhhhhh… yeah of course it’s 56 times better than a phone from 2007. Even their 5C which is half the price isn’t a whole heck of a lot slower. It’s like they completely gave up! Like I said… I know specs aren’t the whole story but we’re getting dangerously close to low-range Android territory here. Yeah… you know those phones that they give away for free and hardly make page three of the tech news? Yeah it’s that bad.

    Listen, I’m not here to lead the battle against Apple. And I’m not even necessarily making fun of them. I’m actually legitimately saddened by this. Our biggest competitor is starting to fall SO far behind that I’m not sure they’ll be able to catch up. Within the next 12 months, the rest of the market will move so far beyond the iPhone’s capabilities it will be a monumental jump for Apple to stay in the game. I guess what I’m saying is that the stagnation of the smartphone market has a lot to do with Apple’s inability to stay current.

    If I were still an Apple fan (I once was), this is probably the year I’d jump ship. They have lost the last little bit of respect I still had for them.

    • ssl48

      This statement is too long, no one will read it….

      • NexusMan

        I wasn’t going to read the whole thing, but after seeing your comment, I was inspired to do just that.

      • joejoe5709

        Okay. Go ahead and condense it down for me in an intelligent fashion without losing any of the message.

    • Franklin Ramsey

      But… But… all the pretty new colors!

      • Joshua Hoffman

        I know right ;P So revolutionary ;P

    • NexusMan

      They have a solid bump: Fingerprint scanning! (sarcasm intended)

      • VelvetLlama

        It’s new, revolutionary, wonderful!!!

        …and something that other devices have had for years.

  • itsacardigan

    Note 3 or LG G2….Go!

    • Armus

      No doubt, N3 is a beast

      • joejoe5709

        N3? Sounds like a Nexus3 and that’s weird.

        • Armus

          Considering that there’s never been a Nexus 3, and there is a Note3, I’d disagree. As a Note2 owner I often abbreviate as such. N2 or N3. Get use to it.

          • Smartss

            NT3?

  • Sooks77

    The interesting thing with X64 is it really doesn’t help with much before a specific point (quad core processor and over 4GB of RAM) Which we can safely assume the iPhone 5S doesn’t have. I think it’s all a marketing ploy, and what they really meant is 64x faster then the origional apple computer….

    • VelvetLlama

      That’s what I thought was interesting. I like that they’re pushing it now, even though it’s basically pointless. It will force other OEMs to start thinking about moving to 64 bit.

  • thedonxr

    Apples stock dropped 2.28% since the unveiling…

  • Tim242

    CNN is about to have a segment called “Bad Apple.”. Go watch!

  • Brandon Golway

    So pretty much the only difference between the iPhone 5S and the 5C are a different processor and it saves you $100. I wonder how they’re going to market it to the Apple masses who generally don’t know a damn thing about technology.

    • Franklin Ramsey

      The pretty colors!!!

      • Brandon Golway

        It’s funny because that’s the ONLY difference between the 5 and the 5c, besides the fact that it’s heavier. Everything else is exactly the same! They’re essentially lying to you outright by saying that it’s a brand new device when all the did was change the color and the name. Stuff like this is why I hate Apple.

    • NexusMan

      And don’t forget the iPhone 5c comes in multiple color choices and “iPhone 5c is beautifully, unapologetically plastic.”

  • Tim242

    S4 vs iPhone. This picture is worth a thousand words.

    • Will Frame

      I’d say it’s worth about an inch.

      • Stephen

        That’s what she said

    • Fools

      Yeah, one of them can actually be used with one hand

      • Tim242

        I have small hands, and have no issue with the S4 one-handed use when necessary. If you have issues, you have two hands. Function over form, my friend. I see people with those tiny iPhones held right up to their face.

        • Fools

          Thankfully, we now have choice in the form of an un-nerfed Motorola Razr Mini. Finally a small device that’s on par with its bigger counterparts.

  • trollergirl

    my hairdryer got 5 leds, so it’s better then the iphone.

    • joejoe5709

      But how many GeeBee’s?? How much internet can it get?

  • edmicman

    Even as an Android user, I’m intrigued by the 64-bit CPU but definitely the camera. Anecdotally the iPhone camera quality seems to be heads and shoulders above everything else out there. It would be nice if someone on the Android side (Moto, I’m looking at you…) would come out with a camera experience that blows everything else away instead of cranking out a new 6″ screen or something.

    • Yup.

    • joejoe5709

      Ugh. True. I despise my camera. Then again it is a GNex.

      • Shane Redman

        I have a GNex and surprisingly every friend that has an iPhone says it takes clearer pictures than theirs in our outings….baffles my mind, but it’s in the eye of the owner. It really did. Their pictures were cloudy and fuzzy while mine came out clearer.

        • joejoe5709

          You know… I should retract that. Outside, the pics are actually pretty awesome. Vibrant and clear. But go inside or under low light, my camera sucks pretty bad.

          • Shane Redman

            My experience is different. Most of the time, we’re out and about in the DC nightlife. Controlled, on-the-fly photography was definitely meh…but real world use, apparently was the best thing since well….the iph..I mean OG Droid lol

    • My Note2 takes amazing pictures. Everybody comments on them whether it’s the phone screen in my hand or G+ or fb. My “work phone” SG2 takes nice shots too, especially in dim light. I’ve never liked the grainy iPhone look.

    • NexusMan

      Heads and shoulders above Nokia? And Galaxy S IV?

    • VelvetLlama

      Definitely nice cameras. However, for the time being, the 64 bit architecture really isn’t likely to offer any noticeable benefits. The phone hardware still hasn’t hit the bottlenecks which spurred the jump to 64 bit chips in PCs. After that, you still have to have software rewritten to take advantage of the 64 bit architecture. Much of the software you use on your PC or laptop is probably still 32 bit software, even though 64 bit chips have become standard. Still, for the first time in a long time, Apple can claim to be leading the way in pushing a new technology. And I mean legitimately claiming- not calling 5 year old tech “revolutionary.”

    • HTC used to be really good with their cameras (I had the Thunderbolt and the Rezound, both of which gave me professional looking photos which I even to this day use as my desktop background on my MBP). I haven’t gotten the change to play with their new in house tech but I would bet that it doesn’t disappoint!

    • Droidzilla

      iPhone have, until this 5S, gotten their cameras from Sony. So, their cameras were as good as what was on every Sony Android phone. Decent shooters, but by no means great. If you want to see the king of phone cameras, look to the Nokia stuff with Zeiss lenses and Xenon flashes. Truly great little innovations for phone cameras. Pity they’re strapped to WP.

  • hfoster52

    Motorola had a finger print scanner VIA the Atrix….

    • a phone nobody owned. who cares.

      • VelvetLlama

        People should care since Apple is pushing the finger print scanner as a never before seen groundbreaking technology and a major reason to buy their product.

        • well it is a major reason to buy their product. did motorola incorporate it in a clever way? useful way? not really. this will be your password for everything, eventually. it is groundbreaking.

          • Kamesen

            your arguments are usually pretty terrible. this one was no exception 🙁 you ever use your browser on your phone and a little button pops up that says “use your google sign-in”? and you click accept and it logs in without having to type the password? or maybe an app that uses google services and you click “allow” and dont have to put in your credentials? this is a shiny, fancy gimmick. far, far, FAR from groundbreaking. unless you use this phone as an enterprise solution this is something else for them to make a profit against the regular consumer. similar to “buy 2 get 1 free”: look at this added feature! it cost us $5 to implement, we’ll add $50 to the MSRP. wake-up already.

          • VelvetLlama

            No it isn’t groundbreaking, at least it isn’t now. I’ve been using a tiny little fingerprint scanner on my laptop for 4 years now and the technology has been common in consumer devices longer than that.

            Is apple incorporating it in a clever way? No- it’s being used as a replacement for passwords- exactly the same way the Motorola Atrix used it. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, it’s the most logical use for a fingerprint scanner and if you can incorporate one without increasing the cost of the end product, then by all means throw it in. Meanwhile, if I want gimmicky methods of unlocking my phone, I can just look at it and have it unlocked with facial recognition.

            Don’t get me wrong, this is a neat little feature and I hope other OEMs start using it now that it’s cheap enough to implement- but it is anything but groundbreaking.

    • However the implementation kinda sucked. That’s why when I talk about this one, it clarify that with IF it works well… it’ll be a great security feature.

  • The 5c is going to fly off the shelves.

    • joejoe5709

      Agreed. Half the price. No one cares that it’s a bit thicker and made of plastic if it’s really only missing a few features the 5S has. Again, half the price.

      • NexusMan

        Did the 4 fly off the shelves after the 5’s release? Because they did the exact same thing then, and dropped the price to $99. This is nothing new…they just put a plastic back on it this time, which makes it worse for consumers, because your giving them last years model with a cheaper build quality for the exact same price you gave them the iPhone 4, when it was last years model.

      • VelvetLlama

        I think it’s great and the lower price finally matches the performance you get.

  • Chippah

    http://images.fonearena.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/galaxy-note-3-accessories-hands-on-2.jpg

    NOTE 3 Wireless charging, official, plus im sure we will see cheaper QI setup too.

  • OneForTheGoodDays

    Overheard at the iPhone event: “when are we going to be able to charge our iPhones through the cloud?!”

  • Getting a 5s and a Note 3. Best of both worlds.

    • Godzilla

      Stupidest thing I’ve heard today.

      • Sorry Godzilla. I want the most powerful phone (5s) as well as a phablet with wacom digitizer built in.

  • joejoe5709

    Weird how the 5C actually weighs significantly more than the 5S. I mean, it weighs more than the GS4 and that’s a much larger phone and both are made of plastic.

    • Josh Fischer

      I believe it was said the battery in the 5C is larger than the 5S. Probably due to the older cpu being less efficient. Also, the focus on being thin with the 5S would reduce some additional weight as well.

      • joejoe5709

        Ah. Great points.

  • yummy

    So when are you giving
    one of these bad boys away?

  • Jeremy Wray

    I like how the bar from the site covers up part of the picture. first time this site has failed me

    • GentlemanScholar

      Maximize your internet browser.

  • imaletufinish

    I can’t knock Apple’s marketing machine though…

    • joejoe5709

      Their marketing is honestly mostly Verizon employees and word of mouth. Their commercials are lousy and anyone with half a techy brain cell can see through the B.S.

      • imaletufinish

        I agree, but you can’t ignore the Billion dollars Apple spent last year on ads.

        • T4rd

          Holy balls Samsung! 4+ billion in marketing is insane!

          • samari711

            they do have the widest array of products,not all of that is on phones.

        • joejoe5709

          Hmmmm… I’d say Samsung is the one we can’t ignore. Then again it’s all about the quality of the marketing because I’m sure as hell not going to buy a Dell anytime soon. Microsoft spent a ton of money and still failed mainly due to sub-par products. Apple will soon suffer the same fate.

  • Chippah

    Hey Silly pants, NOTE 3 DOES HAVE WIRELESS CHARGING – now lose dat dash sucka!

  • Davros

    Although I don’t like apple I was seriously hoping it would get NFC to help bring it to more markets.

    • joejoe5709

      Ditto.

    • Franklin Ramsey

      That should be coming next year. They are usually 2-3 years behind Android.

      • joejoe5709

        :-O That moment you realize the Nexus S was less than three years ago. Feels like forever…

  • Wilson Gomez

    You forgot the USB 3.0 on the Note 3

  • Tyler Casilio

    Do the other size comparison. Yeah, you know what I’m talking about. They lose every time

  • Bigwavedave25

    So… no mention of RAM yet. I think the 5s assumption of 2Gb would stick pretty well, 1Gb for the 5c

    • doesn’t really make that big of a difference in ios. i’m using an ipad mini and it feels snappier than most android phones and it has 512mb

      • Bigwavedave25

        yeah, kings of software optimization at the moment…

        However my wife’s i4 is struggling, can’t update stuff and her phone is laggy as hell. She definitely needs as much help in the usable ram department as she can get. Will be no different when she upgrades, same use patterns will continue.

    • joejoe5709

      I haven’t heard otherwise so I’ll assume 1GB for the 5S as well. If it were 2GB they’d make a really big deal about it.

      • Bigwavedave25

        Ah, good point. One more thing for them to claim 😉

  • joseph barrientos

    specs should only matter to a degree, now, every high end phone is just about the same, its not about what you have but how you use it, i think iphone 5s is a solid device, but its not gonna deter me from being an android user.

  • hokieputter

    next up: Moto X price drop!! just wish they’d drop the off contract pricing. wishful thinking i guess..

  • proparham

    where is XPERIA Z1?

  • Daeshaun Griffiths

    And out of all of these 2013 smartphones…

  • cozybop

    I find it hilarious that people are complaining about a phone that doesn’t have the features they want when they will never buy the thing in the first place.

    • googlyeyedfrog

      i think the complaint about lack of NFC is legitimate because NFC services may not be fully implemented until Apple jumps aboard. So the lack of it on this phone may mean that we need to wait another year before services like Google Wallet become more prevalent

  • Liderc

    The gold version looks like someone pissed on the white one.

    • joejoe5709

      iPhone 5S “Yellow Snow Edition”

    • Brandon Golway

      Its for those that like to take golden showers.

      • OreoMan

        Isn’t that the R. Kelly edition?

  • cozybop

    Yawn. I stopped caring about specs on phones, cause they all practically do the same things. Stopped caring about what Apple releases. Stopped caring about what Android releases. Just use your phones and stop fighting each other over them. Stop letting your smartphone define who you are, because if you are using it to define who you are a person, then you really need to reevaluate yourself as one.

    • guest

      scrub

    • jnt

      while I agree with you 150%, this IS a phone/tech enthusiast blog… so some of that discussion is inevitable, and encouraged! 🙂

    • Gr8Ray

      If you stopped caring, then why are you reading an Android tech blog?

      • cozybop

        If you’re not buying an iPhone, why complain about it? Why is it even on this blog in the first place.

    • ToddAwesome

      Stop telling me what to do, that’s very UN-Libertarian of you.

    • Tim242

      Did you forget about where you are?

      • Ej McCarty

        Screenception haha

  • Droid 1967

    maybe ron is watching apples stock drop after an announcement of new products.
    almost down 3% now =$14.16 so far. This does not show a lot of faith on this announcement from people who have a financial stake in apple. had to change the dollar amount 3 times while typing this as it just keeps going down. Maybe the fed can pump 83 billion dollars into this to prop up these numbers to make people think its all good.

    • col3rsc

      Apple stock always goes down after an announcement.

      • Droid 1967

        really wonder why. I have watched others Samsung Microsoft for instance and see their stocks go up with announcements of new products. Must just be the people that deal in apple stock. it was jut kinda a joke though 🙂

  • BREAKING: Apple has hired Koush full time, promising to give him full access to even the most bleeding edge APIs so he can make cool apps.

    • Franklin Ramsey

      Well, iPhones generally have what Android has 2-3 years after Android, so I could maybe see this happening. /s

    • joejoe5709

      Ha. If Koush went to Apple, I actually might consider buying an Apple. Koush is the flippin’ man.

      • I agree with you when he isn’t being a crybaby and a prima donna.

  • zepfloyd

    The Note 3 also supports LTE-Advanced.

  • artsr2002

    My original Inc has dual LED and they’re bright as hell. LOL.

  • David

    I can’t even believe that I am wasting my life reading about the 5S and 5C…

  • Drummer62

    I wish to see NO more comments or posts about an Apple product!! This is an ANDROID site, wtf!! lmao

  • Mayoo

    Apple’s conference …

  • Joey Funk

    i like how they claimed dual LED flash is “ahead of its time on a smartphone.” bitch, my motorola photon had dual LEDs on it two years ago!

    • DingowBell

      like motorola atrix, 2leds + fingerprint

    • Rob Delaney

      It had the same two LED colors. This has a soft flash like a professional flash attachment does as well as the same bright flash LED.

      • Please don’t compare the iPhone flash to a professional flash.

        • Rob Delaney

          I said like. As in a car is like a truck. Using like I denoted similarities but left open the arguments of how they are different. Like in this case is a professional attachment and lighting system has a cool white and a warm amber. But the differences are quality and size. So a car is like a truck in there is a steering wheel and wheels, but the truck has a better engine and more power.

    • Fattie McDoogles

      They clearly are in denial about Windows Phone and the Lumia 1020.

    • tomn1ce

      My OG Droid had dual LED lights back in 2009

      • OreoMan

        ^ This!!!

      • joseph barrientos

        theyre different than having just 2 flashes -_-

    • Nik

      You’re right! I have the Photon too and it has dual LED

    • thedonxr

      It goes back further than that 🙂

      • OreoMan

        And the OG Droid had what…….Gold!

        • OreoMan

          ’80’s gold really.

      • Josh Fischer

        Man, the OG Droid is a sharp looking phone… I’d like to see a throwback version made, only with updated internal hardware and onscreen buttons. Make it a 4.5-4.7″ screen. That was a great phone and this makes me want to pull my old one out and find a use for it again!

        • tomn1ce

          Contact Motorola and see if they can scrap what’s floating around as the Droid 5 and see if they can make it. I just hope that the specs of the Droid 5 are not what has been showing up….

      • tomn1ce

        I had that lil trooper myself…that lil trooper was what got me into the Android world not to mention the commercials that Motorola and vzw had back then picking on the poor iphone…Droid Does 🙂

  • Hunter

    While the spec wars I agree are just about over, the fact that this phone has no NFC, no wireless charging, a 4 inch screen and resolution below 720p makes this a subpar smartphone.

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      That’s just nitpicking… You have to take into account what sells… The Average smartphone buyer doesn’t care about what isn’t being sold to them. If it’s not being marketed to them they don’t know they are missing it.

      That’s why the first question non tech folks ask is “What’s different from the last one”. If NFC isn’t there, they don’t know. Same goes for screen res and wireless charging. If it isn’t being marketed to them they don’t know it’s missing.

      • Liderc

        nitpicking? lol

      • Butters619

        I’m sorry, but Apple had an amazing opportunity here to revolutionize (TM) NFC payments with the finger print scanner. Instead, it’s just a fancy unlock button.

        How awesome would it be to walk up to an NFC pad, just hold your finger to the scanner, and pay? No unlock. No prep. Quick, easy, painless.

        • mrjayviper

          The only nfc payment will go forward is if Apple uses it. And somehow android will piggyback on it. I think Apple knows this that’s why they haven’t done much in this space

          • Kamesen

            Apple is being a huge fackwors by holding back on putting NFC in their phones. They’re just doing it on purpose at this point to keep from opening a market Android will once again dominate.

          • mrjayviper

            but it’s not apple’s fault it’s not taking off? If it’s really needed/wanted, it would take off on its own with the 1+billion android activations (not sure if all those has nfc)

          • Kamesen

            i agree with your initial statement that it would become mainstream if apple adopted it, which may just be a matter of time at this point. its a natural succession to the fingerprint scanner, they just need to figure out how to get their cut from credit transactions. i think apple eventually adopting it WILL have been because of android phones using it by large. do you see what i mean? im a little confused by your use of double-negative in your reply, i hope i addressed your point.

      • Addison

        That just means they are lazy/ignorant consumers.

        • Dorian Brooks

          That just means they are iSheep.
          Shortened that for ya.

    • cozybop

      Then why are you complaining? Nobody is making you buy one with a gun pointed at your mom.

      • Jason E Perkins

        He’s not complaining. He’s just telling us what he thinks.

      • RaptorOO7

        There are sites that you can visit to get help you know.

    • carlisimo

      I wish I could get an Android phone with similar specs and a 4″ screen.

      • Fattie McDoogles

        …Said everyone 3 years ago.

        • mrjayviper

          Can’t be everyone. He just said it an hour ago

          • Timothy McGovern

            He also said it three years ago. I remember

            Edit: She

            Edit: He?

          • littlebillygot3

            I have to agree, I personally have had the note 2 for about a year, and while it is arguably the best phablet out, it is extremely hard to hold and text with just one hand. I think the s3 had the right idea: big screen, compact and round shaped design.

          • RaptorOO7

            Do you have small hands? I can work it with one hand, dial, reach the top of the screen, no issues here. Waiting on my GN3 on 10/10/13

        • RaptorOO7

          Oh Snap.

      • Jeremy Gross

        maybe 4.5ish inch

      • ImmaDroid

        Well then, in that case. I’ll sell you my old Droid Charge for $549.00, No contract!! I’ll even include the extra .3″ of display for free

        • Franklin Ramsey

          I’ll sell you my old Droid Charge for $549.00, throw in the .3″ of display for free, a case, and throw in an extended capacity battery! lol It’s an Android phone, hence, competition.

          • ImmaDroid

            Ok then, I’ll throw in a case, used screen protector. and I’m ripping out the fingerprint scanner on my laptop, and crazy gluing it to the Charge home button.. And What!! Low price guarantee of $548.88

          • Franklin Ramsey

            Ok, I’ll throw in a used screen protector, two new onces, and that crazy cat lady that lives in the cardboard box by my work, and cut the price to $545 even. At that price, I’m practically giving it away.

      • kixofmyg0t

        You mean….the Motorola Atrix? It even has a fingerprint reader!

        Side note, Apple bought the supplier that Moto used for that fingerprint scanner.

      • HarleyGuy72

        Rockin’ an OG Strat!!! That’s pretty close 😛 Plus, as an added bonus, it has a slide out QWERTY!!!!

      • Maybe try a Droid Mini with its touchless controls and active notifications, you might actually use those features whereas finger unlock will meet the same fate face unlock did.

      • RaptorOO7

        Oh no he didn’t.

    • trophynuts

      are you serious? out of the mass of cell phone users how many even know or care about those features that you listed? Yeah of course techies do but your average users which is the majority couldn’t care less.

      • epps720

        Out of the mass of cell phone users how many are on this site… oh yeah techies

        • Brandon Golway

          The thing is that most iPhones aren’t marketed to techies.

      • Brandon Golway

        You are correct, sir. We’re maybe a quarter of the total smartphone buying population. If you ask the average smartphone user (be it Android or iOS users) about the tech specs of their device they would probably have no idea. I honestly think a lot of people just get a smartphone just to say that they have one. I know at least a few people that have smartphones and only do feature-phone type things on it (check facebook, listen to music, use the camera). I remember talking to one guy that had just got the iPhone 4S and I was ranting about how awesome my Android phone was at the time and he was like “I don’t need to do all that, I just need a phone!” my head exploded and I had to ask why he got a 4S then when he doesn’t do anything with it, his response was “I browse the web occasionally and watch youtube videos so I wanted to be able to do that.”

        • Steve Byers

          That’s pretty funny, I could do all that with my LG Dare 8 years ago and I didn’t have to pay for a data plan..

        • Brandon Golway

          I remember another one of my friends whom I don’t see that often had gotten either the original SGS or the SGS2 and she was like “Look I got a big girl phone!” (she was drunk and she was 25 at the time lol). She handed it to me and she had absolutely nothing on the phone, no apps or anything. Homescreen only had the default icons on it. So I asked her if she had just gotten it within the past few days and her response made we want to facepalm, she said that she had it for 2 months and couldn’t figure out how to remove the default homescreen apps or add new ones.

      • Josh Fischer

        They don’t care because they are unaware. I’ve amazed many non techies with paying with Google Wallet. Where I live, nearly all of the gas stations, McDonalds, and several stores accept NFC payments via Google Wallet. I consistently get people asking me about my Nexus 4 (Previously my GNex) and wanting to know how they can do it on their phone.

        Low resolution, isn’t something most care about (unless they are touting their retina screen) but a larger screen also makes a bigger impact. At a recent gathering everyone was trying to see some video a friend was showing on youtube on their iPhone. Another buddy whipped out his Note and everyone loved the size. Many said they couldn’t wait to get a phone with a larger screen than their current phones (both iphones and androids). Large screens are becoming a big selling point these days and higher resolution makes them look better.

        Wireless charging is awesome, but I will agree that it is less useful than the other features. The only thing I would like to see, is more car docks with wireless charging. Rather than fumbling with charging cords ever time I get in and out of the car.

        So yes, many cell users don’t know or care about these features, but it is more due to apathy then it is for the lack of usefullness. Once exposed to them, most non techies can instantly enjoy the benefits they receive. Then again, if it’s not “innovated” by Apple, many don’t want to admit the features are something we can use.

        • FAL_Fan

          Well written sir!

        • Why can’t I up-vote this more than once!

          • RaptorOO7

            Log out and up vote as a guest 🙂

    • Can you imagine how excited iPhone users would be if they could just put their phone on a pillow to charge it? It would be revolutionary!

      • EdubE24

        No we mostly just need to put it on a charger before we go to bed. Battery life is amazing when Touchwiz and Sense aren’t killing it!

        • There are so many complains about how the battery in the iPhone sucks. Compare that to the Note 2, G2, or MAXX.

          • EdubE24

            I’ve had the Note 2 and will admit the battery life is awesome. But I put it on the charger at the end of the evening just like my iP5!

          • RaptorOO7

            Swappable batteries will never go out of style with Samsung and Apple will NEVER let you swap a battery on ANY apple product EVER AGAIN. You can’t even swap that lame laptop battery like my HP Notebook can.

        • RaptorOO7

          Really, I had an iPhone 4, 4S, 5 (twice) and owned numerous Androids during the same period. Guess what . . . iPhone FAILED time and again on battery life. Claim what you want, it just plain SUCKED!

          • EdubE24

            Cool story bro…I love fiction!

        • Jkdem85

          Why do people want to charge their phones on a mat? I read my phone constantly while it’s plugged in, I couldn’t imagine not doing that.

          • Quite recently they have released an actual wireless charger which can charge upto 5hrs worth of battery life and doesnt’s need to be in contact with the phone. Should be coming to stores sometime soon.

      • CapnShiner

        I bet they would call it AirCharge or something like that and claim that they invented it. They would market it just like they marketed dual-mic noise cancellation on the iPhone 5. The charging surface would also, somehow, only work with Apple devices.

    • NexusPhan69

      I can’t believe the iPhone 5C costs $549 and the iPhone 5S costs $649 and they still don’t have any of these features.

    • Scott

      Even with Google Wallet, I hardly use NFC. Taking it away would not make my life any different. Cool feature, but over rated in my opinion.

      • Weber

        I ONLY use it to show people that haven’t heard of it how it works. Other than that, *shrugs*

    • Alec

      The Atrix called, it wants it’s fingerprint scanner back.

      • RaptorOO7

        But apple innovated the fingerprint scanner, by buying up another company.

      • The what? Oh the Atrix? LOL, that POS…

    • RaptorOO7

      But, but, but it’s INNOVATIVE, See we “innovated” plastic in the new phone. We are truly geniuses. /S

    • jon

      because ~ 144 x 80 less than 720p is such a big deal -__-

  • RoboCop

    I wonder how many iphone users did a Siri Bing search to learn what 64 bit meant

    • Give this man a cookie. He wins.

      • Ashish Raj

        Nope.. he deserves a Kit Kat!

        • RaptorOO7

          Oh, Break me off a piece of that Kit Kat Bar.

      • hkklife

        No, it’s Robocop….give the man a hand!

        • average___

          Dude I love the comment you just made but the remake you’re going to be in blows.

        • kevin

          I’d buy that for a dollar!

    • capecodcarl

      64-bit is more than 32-bit so the iPhone 5S is more advanced and thus faster.

      • panicswhenubered

        Let me introduce capecodcarl, an iPhone user. lol

        • capecodcarl

          Naw, the screen is too small on it. 🙂

        • Ben Edwards

          I do believe he was being sarcastic 🙂

      • Marsg

        64 bit with a 1GB RAM bottleneck. Yea im sure that’s just going to work itself out lol

        • kmarcy89

          ram not confirmed

          • Marsg

            It hasn’t ? several sites have confirmed it to have 1GB

          • kmarcy89

            That’s impressive. They did a tear down in Cupertino or were allowed to benchmark at apple headquarters. That’s a first.

          • Marsg

            they might have just asked one of the employees, its not a top secret prjoect anymore (like it ever was in the first place), the device is going on sale next week. lol

          • kmarcy89

            The only confirmation is to benchmark or tear down. That speculation about said apple employee is ridiculous. It probably is 1-2 gb but to this point unconfirmed.

          • Marsg

            if it had 2GB of RAM don’t you think they would have mentioned it, its a huge upgrade, the fact that they dint can only assume its 1GB, but we will see soon enough.

          • kmarcy89

            They’ve never mentioned ram at an iphone event. In fact apple never mentions ram at all. When they went from 512kb to 1gb it wasn’t mentioned

          • Maxim∑

            When apple went to 1GB of RAm they never announced it but let’s wait for anandtechs review

          • RaptorOO7

            They never speak of RAM, Processor Speed, just the name of the processor which means jack but ifone fans will eat it up like Soylent Green. After all how do you think they go so many phones out the door on time with quadruple overtime and forced labor practices.

          • Aron Tripp

            If it was anything greater than 1GB, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BLASTED ALL OVER THE SCREEN AT THE EVENT!

      • CHRIS42060

        This reminds me of when the iPhone 4 (also changing the naming after the 3G) was released and everyone insisted since the name contained a 4 is was a 4G capable phone.

        • Ollie_Williams

          the iphone has wifis…I will never forget that video. lol

          • RaptorOO7

            I can’t wait for the next video that spoofs apple. Who makes those crazy azz funny ones?

          • New_Guy

            Go to YouTube and search “introducing the new iPhone.” It’s pretty fantastic :).

          • charles rogers

            Sadly the iphone was probably better than the EVO

        • RaptorOO7

          iFone fans are such bright ones aren’t they.

        • M3D1T8R

          Well yeah, because it has the number “4” that is the same number “4” as used in “4G” so it must be the same thing, right? Etc…

      • spy2jgc

        The iphone is not faster because, as you call it, it’s more “advanced”… you have to have software and apps capable of running in 64 bit mode… which nearly all (any?) don’t…so they default to running in 32 bit mode. It’s a GREAT chip to have… in a year or 2 (after the phone is already replaced with another) and apple has finally started allowing 64 bit programming.

    • Will Frame

      Drop it!

    • Rob Delaney

      Because every Android user knows exactly what that is too? It’s funny, my grandmother has a Gnex on verizon, do you think she knows it just because she owns an Android device? Don’t generalize iPhone users based on a tool the use to communicate with the world. I am sure there are Android users who can’t tie their shoes.

      • Its just funny when you see all the Apple nerds drooling over the live feed on Engadget and then in the middle of class I get 3 text messages in a row asking what 64 bit architecture means..oh and then when some Apple fanboy in class just sits there in class staring at his laptop because he thinks its so revolutionary only to proceed to ask me what it actually means.. Yes, that actually happened today.

        • Jarred Sutherland

          If he has a Macbook Air you should thank him because it is pretty revolutionary. Super thin, super fast, amazing battery as well. Someone has to push the envelope with OEMs. Heck, I seriously doubt we will see PCI-e based SSDs in Windows notebooks for quite some time still.

          For as much as Apple as bashed, many people skip over the positive aspects they bring to the table. Higher resolution displays meant “1080p” (for the most part) on laptops before Apple pushed the “Retina” display on their Pro lines.

          Say what you will, but Windows OEMs are quite happy to sit you there and sell you the same terrible laptop for years and years down the road.

          • RaptorOO7

            Seriously thank them for a thin laptop build off slave wage labor force. Next we will be thanking dictators in developing countries.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            Raptor try harder next time. You’re posting this on an electronic device with internals built by the same company Apple uses (foxconn) or some other “slave wage labor force”. Get off your high horse.

          • Chad

            Have to agree with you there, Jarred!

          • Jarred Sutherland

            I had to call that one out .. the irony was too much.

          • Rob Delaney

            You think Samsung, Sony, Dell, Acer, ASUS, and other don’t use labor wage laws in their benefit? Every one of those companies are incorporated in Ireland too you know. And do you know why? The microscope is only so big, some companies escape it for a time being while others are its focus. Do you not remember Packard Bell in the 80’s? Microsoft in the 90’s?

          • imageWIS

            And WHERE do you think every other companies products are made?!? In the same factories that make Apple’s products!!!

          • Chad

            And Jobs invented the wheel and then the PC. Sorry, forgot.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            You guys sure are just angry and bitter. Funny because you are exactly what you seem to hate from the other camp. Why people need to have this battle is beyond me. I’ve used Windows, Mac, Linux … Android, iOS, Blackberry, Windows Phone and found each of them has their ups and downs. Heck, I am typing this out on a Windows based laptop and I have a Windows 8 box next to me right now, I don’t own a single Apple product at the moment but I still cannot understand the hate against a product or company like you guys express. It’s really laughable.

          • CapnShiner

            So there’s no hate towards Android coming from the iOS fanboys? So there are no angry or bitter iOS fanboys? Both sides have their faults. It’s the nature of any polarizing topic. For me, personally, it’s not so much Apple’s products I dislike but Apple itself. It’s their culture, their business practices, and their attitude. I think they are the most overrated company in the world today. I think hatred towards Apple, though not always justified, is more often justified than hatred towards Android.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            You need to re-read what I wrote.

          • CapnShiner

            No I don’t. You’re acknowledging that iOS fanboys exist but you’re directing your comments at Android fans. Your tone is subjective.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            My tone is to all sides with the statement I made (ahem, the RE-READ part) where I said “Funny because you are exactly what you seem to hate from the other camp” which means …. you are what you claim to hate about the other side. So basically, X says Y spews hate while X is doing the same thing.

          • michael arazan

            People are laughing and making fun of apple for calling a polished turd a diamond. Apple is claiming false information and misleading customers and certain aspects of their device, instead of calling it what it really is which is just a status symbol, I see no hate in making fun of a company. And there is nothing to be bitter about. I think your view is askew.

          • Emilio Figueroa

            I’d say there’s certainly more hate towards apple. Secondarily, there is hate towards Samsung. Other than that, I don’t really think anyone cares that much.

          • LiterofCola

            Mad? Tell us about it. 🙁

          • Brandon Golway

            I don’t hate the products, I hate the company itself. They DO make good products. They just charge you an arm and a leg for the same thing that everyone else has but they lie that they’re the first one to have it or that they came up with the idea.

          • michael arazan

            Not like IBM was around since 1911

          • CapnShiner

            It was Intel, not Apple, that pushed the Ultrabook concept and the name as well. I haven’t researched it, because I really don’t care enough to spend that much time on it, but I’d be willing to bet that high end Windows laptops had screen resolutions at least as high as a Retina Display before those Retina Macbooks were released. I would also be willing to bet that PCI-e SSDs are available in some Windows laptops/ultrabooks as well. As for Windows OEMs selling the same terrible laptop for years and years, remind me again how often Apple releases new Macbooks and how often there are any differences aside from minor spec bumps.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            So, because you don’t want do actually do real research your assumptions turn to fact. Love that logic!

          • CapnShiner

            So, because you don’t seem to understand written English, your own misunderstanding makes me a liar? Read my comment again. I said I’m willing to bet. I did not claim to have already won that bet. Yes, I am making assumptions, but I am also being transparent about them being assumptions and not facts. By the way, I am aware that you are trolling but I don’t really care.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            Yes, I troll because I give an opposing angle. You fanboys on either side are just to shallow minded to accept another view on a matter. Have a good evening.

          • CapnShiner

            You are deliberately giving an opposing opinion on a site that is clearly targeting fans of Android who share the opinion you oppose. If that’s not trolling, I don’t know what is.

          • linkgx1

            Yeah, I’d say you are wrong on that. Why didn’t Ultrabooks before the Macbook Air?Let’s not be fanboys here and look at the truth.

          • bompf

            You are basically wrong with every point you made. Macbook Airs existed before the Ultrabook hype. Windows laptops never had retina-like resolutions, since the operating never supported it and everything would have been to small. I’m not certain abuot the PCI-e SSDs, but I haven’t seen any on a Windows laptop because most of them are exchangable.

        • Rob Delaney

          So you are judging all people based on one person who is a fan boy? Think about your logic right there? One person owns laptop built by a particular company who is probably self righteous to begin with and has nothing to do with his laptop and you are judging all other who have a similar laptop? Use some step by step logic there and you’ll find that you, nor anyone else can’t be generalized by the tools they use.

          • I am generalizing based on the sample of people I typically see and no where in there did I directly mention that just because they use a certain product they are automagically tech illiterate, I was just pointing to the fact that the iFanboys who generally follow all of this stuff and sit in the audience at events like the one Apple did yesterday seem to never know what they are talking about! They’re like oh it has a 64bit processor!!! I have to have one NOW, my iPhone 5 seems to outdated to even use! Ex: Just look at the show yesterday, if it was anything like in history’s past then the second Tim Cook said new iPHone all the fanboys about fainted and they seem to keep clapping til their hands can’t clap anymore! But anyhoo, then they have to ask someone else just what in the world a 64bit processor is (because they don’t even have the slightest clue what a bit is in the first place!). I can’t tell you how many Apple followers I have had to explain to in the past day just over the processor but yet everyone is like “I’m gonna get it anyways” even though they have no clue what is actually new about it.

          • Rob Delaney

            It’s their money. If someone is an idiot with their money how and why does that affect you? Look at the gear. It is a POS and anyone who is a technology enthusiast can see it inside and out. But you know what, if someone I call a friend gets it, the first thing I am going to says isn’t OMG WASTE OF MONEY. No it will be, hey, can I make a phone call with it and pretend I am using my hand and fingers (the universal hand gesture for phone).

            It’s their money, if you are a technology enthusiast and see someone you know with a 5s for the first time, the thing I would ask is “Hey can I see you use the fingerprint scanner to unlock?” (That is of course if you have never seen it done on the Atrix). Be excited for technology and competition in it. Why troll people who have money to buy it?

        • Maxim∑

          Your like one of those crazy sports fanatics. Your reaction Is ridiculous. As you should know a 64 but architecture will benefit gaming. You also do not know what changes were made to the iOS kernel

      • RaptorOO7

        No Android users are smart enough to use Velcro invented for NASA to make their lives easier. iFoney fans are fanatics and unwilling to look beyond their own myopic view of the ios world. I have used more mobile OS’s than anyone I know and so far Android has done a great job improving build after build.

        • Rob Delaney

          So all android users use Velco? 100% of them. If I go to every Android user on the planet them would agree that they use velcro. Like I told Champion1229, look at your statement and break it down logically. You are generalizing everyone into a group based on a tool they use. Not everyone is the same. Sure some people who use Apple products are idiots and horrible people and so are some people who use Android. They were most likely that way before they bought the devices.

      • CapnShiner

        There are still people who refer to every Android phone as a “Droid.” I highly doubt those people know what 64-bit means.

        • Rob Delaney

          And I am willing to bet some are Android users themselves

      • TheRobotCow

        Since this is an android website we get a shitload of fanboys who lack intelligence. I was a huge anti-apple person for a while but i finally just gave in and all i must say is that i love my products.
        People get lost in arguing their opinions with other fanboys and it just creates a mess. Don’t get me wrong, i still love android but i want that new iphone along side the new nexus(since verizon will never see it).

    • ddub

      Good one. In all seriousness… This was a weird conference. Schiller’s little comment about Android, the fact that they just quickly ran through iOS 7, and blasted through the iPhone announcement. They really went out of their way to highlight the 5C and the fact that the 5s is 64-bit. If the 5c is 32-bit, is there even a reason why developers should upgrading their apps? Does 32bit and 64bit make a difference when there is less than 4gb or RAM?

      • Emilio Figueroa

        I’m pretty sure it’s 64 bit so they have a reason to drop support for the 5 and 5C once iOS 8 or 9 come out… Just a thought

      • Jarred Sutherland

        In all seriousness that claim is just a marketing ploy. As the guy above you stated most users have zero idea what it means to them besides bigger has to be better. While it is nice to see them paving the way for future devices, it is very doubtful this will have any impact right now.

        • ddub

          I agree. It’s nice that they’re future proofing it, but there really isn’t anything to be gained other than the marketing. Its something that you’d think apple would just list as a back end improvement rather than a headlining feature. 64 bit is nice, but it isn’t like the hardware is going to be taking advantage of it at this time ( unless the iPad refresh is specifically built with 64bit architecture in mind). I suppose after talking about the camera and the fingerprint scanner, apple needed another bullet point or two to round out the conference!

          • Ted

            Very few apps on any 64-bit OS are even true 64-bit applications. I doubt very many developers will ever utilize this in the near future.

      • blah

        64bit often means more than > 4GB memory addressable. On amd64/x64 it also enables more and much wider registers which speeds up general computing as well. There is no telling what Apple did with their 64bit transition though.

    • RaptorOO7

      Can any iphone users even spell 64 bit, SIRI or BING? I guess that is why they use a speak and spell app on their phones.

      • Jkdem85

        did steve jobs rape your mom or something dude? relax

  • David Thomas

    Why didn’t Ron write all the blogs about the iPhone release today? 😉

  • RoboCop

    112g and 7.9mm is pretty impressive, as is the 64 bit…but there’s not a single “everyday user” who knows what any of that means that Apple is talking to….

    • Zandig

      You could say the same about any android phone. Everyday user isn’t going to know about crazy quad-octo core and 2 Gb of ram specs either. They just want it to take nice pictures, call, text and web.

      • Ryan B

        Maybe not, but at least they can compare normal numbers to other normal numbers. Apple has a fancy way of hiding the specs so no one cares about them. “i dont know, it just works” – every apple user ever

      • joejoe5709

        Bigger numbers are bigger. That and a spiffy looking design are all they’re looking for.

  • Joseph A. Yager

    So is the 5c closer to the regular ol’ iPhone 5? Just with a plastic backing?

    • Rob Delaney

      Yes with a minimal upgrade to the front facing cam. It’s to mass produce the 5c without stealing the materials of the 5s, mainly the aluminum

      • mgamerz

        I’m pretty sure its to make more money

        • Rob Delaney

          I am sure Samsung, HTC, Motorola, Google, LG, Droid-Life, Technobuffalo, theVerge, Yahoo, Coke, Pepsi, and Hot Pockets do everything for the money.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            But not Disney. They do everything for Magic.

          • Rob Delaney

            HA! LMAO. That is some expensive magic. Every year this family of 4 goes for 9 days and it takes me a year to pay off the damage. Literally, we go in March and every year the last payment is paid in February and then I start all over again. Kids love it and so does VISA.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            And yet you are making Memories to last a lifetime. Magic!

  • Kiter86

    note 3 has wireless charging with separate accessory. Same thing as the s4

    • The Phenom

      But it is at least availible unlike with IPhone.

    • jnt

      I didn’t like the one for the S4 – made it slightly thicker and created a slight gap around the camera lens to the inside of the phone.

  • Ben Landwehr

    Galaxy Note 3 for me. Fantastic specs, and android 4.3. I was thinking about the HTC One on Verizon, but with 4.4 coming out soon, I feel like it’ll just never get that (at least on Verizon, not GSM versions).

    And.. yeah.. iPhone 5s or 5c? The iPhone 5c is the iPhone 5 with a blue, pink.. whatever, case on it. The iPhone 5, while it did have some pretty cool upgrades, still nothing special to me. Sorry, Apple.

    • Can we stop dignifying these phones by calling them 5s?

      The 5S is really just the iPhone 4,4

  • DingowBell

    I’ve got a motorola Atrix and it got fingerprint. =P

    • mgamerz

      The same company, Authentic, is what tech makes the new fingerprint reader.

      If it’s as good as the atrix one, it will be kickass… I miss my Atrix FP reader… it was so nice.

  • Matthew DiGiacomo

    I have an iPhone and I’m going to but the iPhone 5C, but you all should probably get the Note 3.

    • Van Hicks

      I see what you did there 😛

      • Matthew DiGiacomo

        Seemed like a perfect time to crack it back out :p

        • Sirx

          You were correct, sir.

      • Elliot Kotis

        I don’t get it?

    • Adrynalyne

      How many times are people going to beat that comment to death? It was funny…once. Twice it was cute. Now it is just idiotic.

      • Matthew DiGiacomo

        No one has said it in awhile :p

        • Adrynalyne

          I could have sworn I’ve seen it twice in this week alone.

          • Mr E

            FACKWORS!

          • Brandon Golway

            I actually just randomly thought about that word like a week ago lol

      • Daistaar

        Hey Adrynalyne! What device are you messing with today? Still HTC or have you moved onto Samsung?

    • David Thomas

      Yes, I’m still wondering why Ron didn’t write all the iphone blogs today…

      • New_Guy

        I think he’s in timeout from the last opinion post :)…