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Apple Vs. Samsung Case in Korea Finds Everyone Guilty, Devices from Both Sides Banned From Sale

The trial between Apple and Samsung in the United States is still in its final days of deliberation, but a similar case in South Korea just finished up and neither one of the companies was a clear winner. A court in Seoul found that Samsung violated some of Apple’s patents, and that Apple violated some of Samsung’s patents. How fun.

Samsung must pay $25 million to Apple and Apple has to repay $20 million right back. Some of Samsung’s best devices like the Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy SII and the Tab 10.1 are banned, but not their latest model, the Galaxy SIII. Apple likewise has to give up the iPhone 4 and iPad 2 but get to keep the 4S and new iPad. All in all, it’s a stalemate, just like the court proceedings were. There’s no significance of this ruling on the American trial, but we wouldn’t be surprised to see a similar outcome.

Via: WSJ

  • L. S.

    What a horrible way to stop providing low cost devices on both sides.

  • kauthor47

    Babies can’t settle out their arguments? Take all the toys away.

  • MKader17

    All that does is help Apple in regards to the bans.

    Customer: Hello I want an iPhone 4 and an iPad 2 because they are cheaper.
    Apple: Sorry, we are not allowed to sell those. We do have the iPhone 4s and 3rd gen iPad though.
    Customer: Okay, sign me up, I didn’t really like my first born anyways.

  • PhillipCun

    For once the i think S. Korea finally did something right that US did wrong… HAHAHAH this is hilarious

  • yarrellray

    You can REST ASSURE that neither will win the UNITED STATES case either. It will be the same result. All in all this doesn’t effect current devices or main devices. It will be what it will be.

  • Gr8Ray

    I think you need to check your figures, because BBC is reporting that Apple was fined more than Samsung, and the USD equivalents are in the tens of thousands, not millions.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19364875

  • Knlegend1

    Hilarious

  • ScoobySnack

    WOW- I am so glad I have a Verizon 10.1. I doubted before, but now I really doubt if it ever gets another official software update. Who is going to support something that’s banned?

  • Steven Iams

    leave it to Korea to settle on a stalemate lol

  • trixnkix637

    I swear I just read an article this morning on Yahoo! that said the court in Seoul found Samsung not guilty. Maybe the author jumped the gun on publishing it because now I can’t find it. Hopefully this ends The Great Patent Wars of ’12.

  • Seth

    It is KRW 25mm and KRW 20mm, which would be approx. $25k and $20k.

    • Seth

      Also, it’s widely considered a big win for Samsung (expected as this was litigated in Korea) because most of Samsung’s smartphone sales at the moment is around the Note and S3. Yeah I’ve seen quite a few S2s being sold due to price, but Koreans are obsessed with new gadgets. Sad but Nexus has never been CLOSE to a seller in Korea.

      Btw, Apple syndrome in Korea has faded pretty quickly with 4s. Only a handful of iPhones are being sold there. Every carrier focuses so much on LTE phones nowadays. Plus, iPhones are considered too expensive compared to android phones due to much less subsidies given to consumers.

  • Eric

    The lesson here children. Become a lawyer cuz they are the only ones who won the battle.

  • http://twitter.com/kirilv Kiril

    This is actually pretty smart. In Korea, it’s not about a patent issue at all. They are simply doing some cleaning on their technology, and getting rid of old products. It’s an economic move, not a legal one.

  • jim

    anyone have a link to push the google wallet update to my verizon nexus, got a gmail from google telling me about the update yesterday, but it wont load

    • David Henry

      There is a trick you can do within Play. In the Play app you can’t find it in search, but if you go downloaded apps and look in ‘ALL’ section you should be able to find it in the list and it’ll say you can ‘Update’. At least that is how I had to do it on my Nexus 7

      • Nick S

        or just flash Pete’s Bugless Beast – it comes with the preloaded Gapps!

      • jim

        went to ‘my app’ then ‘all’ and its not listed there

  • David Henry

    Still super annoyed that the GNex is in that list. It doesn’t use TouchWiz and doesn’t have that stupid bounce-back that Samsung decides to use.

    • JulianZHuang

      the case was related to networking. i think.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=716789798 Lonnie Kerchief

    And who really loses in all of this? The consumer who didn’t even have a voice.

  • George264

    Lol, its funny how Samsung has to pay 25 mil, and Apple 20 mil. Why, does Apple still win in the end? :/

    • Diablo81588

      It cost apple more than that in legal fees, I assure you.

  • bedwa

    Ahh… the Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) begins…….

    • Dr_Buttballs

      Whether you meant it or not (assuming not), nice Megadeth reference.

  • Sporttster

    Smart judge. Ok, so you two idiots can’t find common ground? Well then, BOTH of you bozo’s are going to suffer! YOU can’t sell these and YOU cannot sell these! BOTH of you idiots suffer now. Was it worth it? Maybe next time work it out outside court….

    • swattz101

      Kinda funny that it’s the older products that aren’t selling as well any more, except on the cheap. So basically, the consumer that wants an iDevice or Samsung, but does not have enough money to buy the newest, is SOL because the older, cheaper devices are no longer available. At the same time, someone who was going to buy a cheaper one because of price is forced to buy the newest. Hmm, sounds like both Apple and Samsung win and the consumer loose. But then again, that was the expected outcome.

  • br_hermon

    Just a correction on the story…. It’s not Millions of Dollars. It’s Millions of.. yen or whatever it is. In US dollars it figures out right around $22,000 and $30,000.

    • JoshGroff

      Lol, so pocket change.

    • http://twitter.com/jheyneman James Heyneman

      Came here to mention this, I read elsewhere that Apple had to pay more than Samsung.

      • michael arazan

        androidcentral are reporting different in the korean judgement

    • JulianZHuang

      Korean Won

    • michael arazan

      Why are they banning apple products that aren’t for sale the 4 and ipad 2 ar eol

  • Prime7

    This was the correct ending.

  • Jarred Sutherland

    Man what a complete and utter waste of time for both parties. When are these idiots going to learn and stop the petty bickering with each other?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000722209397 Brandon Hope

      Apple is suing samsung who is just being another tech company but since apple kept suing them they counter sued. Apple is at fault.

      • Jarred Sutherland

        No, Samsung isn’t in the clear here. While I hate what the idiots at Apple are doing, it is pretty obvious that Samsung did copy things from Apple for specific things. Not saying Apple is any better, by ANY means, but neither party is in the clear.

        • Nick S

          Samsung has never denied copying from Apple.

          “When are these idiots going to learn and stop the petty bickering with each other?”

          Apple keeps picking these fights. You seem to have difficulty following a linear argument.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            Throwing stones at your competition (the big gorilla) isn’t picking a fight?

            While I do not agree with Apple in the majority of what they are doing, again, Samsung PICKED some of these fights by just outright copying. Samsung knows that Apple litigates, and does so frequently, so why instigate a fight?

          • JoshGroff

            Maybe because they have a death wish (in a business sense.)

          • Jarred Sutherland

            Perhaps so, or they just think they cant be touched because they are a supplier to Apple. Either way, it is interesting that Samsung is trying to get bans on Apple products, as they sell to Apple and would thus be impacted as well.

            Businesses these days are just too complicated for their own good, IMO.

          • Nick S

            That is one way to look at it.

            Another would be: if the world’s technology manufacturers kowtow to Apple’s bullying, then what are we left with?

            The current patent system is flawed, that much is clear. Ideally, these ridiculous court proceedings will lead to an amended patent system which will allow corporations to protect their intellectual property without hindering innovation and widespread use of the technology.

  • Hmm….

    ….and cut!

  • JoshGroff

    That Android plushy thing, where can I get one? (Besides second hand markets or Amazon, I have to support the genius that created such a thing.)

    • http://www.droid-life.com/ Tim-o-tato
      • JoshGroff

        So many to choose from. o-o

      • Raven

        But, where is the just plain green Andy? They have lots of silly character ones, but I don’t see a single plain one like in the article picture.

      • Sporttster

        That’s not the same one in the pic though is it? He has a zippered mouth and is open in the middle….

        • JoshGroff

          I was wondering the same thing when I went to the link. My mind was blown either way.