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Reminder: This is the Last Day to Lock into Verizon Unlimited Data

Tomorrow is July 7, and that means that you will need to be on an unlimited smartphone data plan by the end of today or else you will be subject to Verizon’s new tiered data plans.  It’s been almost two weeks since we broke news on these new tiers and have talked about it at nauseating levels, but we still wanted to give you one last reminder.  We’ve put together a summary of Big Red’s new tiers below.  

First off, here are the official tiers that we pulled straight from Verizon’s site:

Who will be affected by new data tiers?

New customers that are signing up for a smartphone plan starting July 7.  Current customers that add on new lines starting July 7 will also be affected.  They will be allowed to keep unlimited data on all lines that were locked into unlimited data prior to July 7, but the new lines will be subject to tiers.

Are there different plans for 3G and 4G customers?

No, Verizon is looking at 3G and 4G data plans as being one and the same  Whether you buy a 3G or 4G smartphone starting July 7, you’ll see just one set of tiers – the one we have pictured above.

I have smartphone data now, but want to upgrade to the Bionic – can I keep my unlimited data?

According to multiple Verizon documents, as well as our sources, current unlimited smartphone customers can upgrade after tiers are implemented and still keep unlimited data (as long as they are currently on a smartphone plan).  We aren’t sure how long or how many times that Verizon will allow users to upgrade without switching over to tiers, but “at this time” they are letting it slide.

I have 3G service now, but want 4G later – can I keep unlimited data?

Yes.  According to two of our reports and Verizon’s support, as long as you are locked into unlimited smartphone data before July 7, you can upgrade to a 4G device later and not be moved to tiers.  We have no idea how long they will let this happen, but all signs point to it being for a while.

How do I know which tier to choose?

Verizon has a data calculator that can help you decide.

I have a feature phone now, should I lock into unlimited data now?

Yes.  If you don’t upgrade to an unlimited smartphone data package now and decide to after July 7, you’ll have to choose a tier.  Basically what that means, is that you’ll need to run out a buy a smartphone today to keep unlimited.  Remember that there is a 14-day return policy at Verizon, so you could buy something today and return it tomorrow for the DROID3.

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Everyone all set?  Tiers are officially here tomorrow.

You can find all of our coverage on tiered data here.

  • http://twitter.com/angelbowler Gina Kennelly

    VZW CS Supervisor told my husband that even though I have a 3G enV Touch (multi media phone) my unlimited data plan will be grandfathered in and when Droid Bionic comes out (and I get it) it will not affect my unlimited data. I will have my unlimited data and the Droid Bionic. Yipee!!

  • Espeyswims

    I have a moto droid, and I got it without contract because I broke my phone, I was in a bad mood, and the rep pissed me off (lol), and quickly spent about 1k!  But I am assuming that because I have a unlimited plan now that I will be allowed to keep that.

  • http://twitter.com/Prance_E_Tron Adam Ismail

    So I ordered an Inc 2 from Amazon Wireless for my dad yesterday, and obviously I ticked the box for $30 unlimited data. Now the post here says that only devices activated today will be eligible for unlimited data. My question is, will my dad’s phone have unlimited data because he bought that plan on the Amazon website, or will he have to go tiered because he won’t get his phone activated for at least another two days?

  • Malonzo85

    Dear Non smart phone Verizon Customer,

    You just got F’d in the A,

  • Hal

    What are the tethering options for existing customers? Are they different between existing 3G and 4G customers?

  • Caballero Aldo97

    What happened to the family plans?

  • Ddh1969

    If I roll over my smartphone/data contract in December when I’m eligible for ‘new every 2′ am I going to have to go to tiers?

  • http://www.facebook.com/Pengwnmastr Mitchell Johnson

    I was able to get grandfathered into Verizon’s unlimited plan a couple hours ago! I got confirmation from the store manager that I would be able to keep the unlimited plan when I upgrade to the Bionic in August! Was sooo worried that I would have been screwed.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y7R2Q22GSPY7SE3WMIR5QBXJWE Roseann Chase

    I paid $32.67 for a XBOX 360 and my mom got a 17 inch Toshiba laptop for $94.83 being delivered to our house tomorrow by FedEX. I will never again pay expensive retail prices at stores. I even sold a 46 inch HDTV to my boss for $650 and it only cost me $52.78 to get. Here is the website we using to get all this stuff, LiveCent.com

  • Sublime8696

    did i read something about them getting rid of the 20% discount i get off my $30 unlimited plan for working for the state?

  • Anonymous

    Whatever happened to the buzz surrounding the ETF easy exit? Did they not make it “materially adverse”?

  • Jcorf

    I keep hoping that they’re gonna push it back because I can’t afford any of this right now, not for another month at least..

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  • droidrev71

    I have spoke to Verizon twice and both people had shot that unlimited WiFi hotspot down for 4G phones.

  • droidrev71

    I have spoke to Verizon twice and both people had shot that unlimited WiFi hotspot down for 4G phones.

  • droidrev71

    Nothing about WiFi hotspot? What about the 4G unlimited hotspot for $30 a month. I hope there is truth to that post the other day on Droid life.

  • droidrev71

    Nothing about WiFi hotspot? What about the 4G unlimited hotspot for $30 a month. I hope there is truth to that post the other day on Droid life.

  • ImJoeNYC

    If I change my number on one line via online will I be affected. I mean keeping the line but changing the number on it

  • Anonymous

    Just yesterday I added unlimited data to my daughter’s feature phone, so we’d have some time for her to pick what she wanted for her upgrade (which just kicked in late last week).

    I am extremely angry right now. Extremely angry indeed. Called customer service and they’re ‘experiencing heavy call volumes’. Really?! I’M SHOCKED!. Sure enough, if I don’t get her a smartphone today, her dreams of unlimited data are forever dashed. Yeah, she can return it in 14 days, but there’s a f*cking $35 restocking fee.

    WAY TO TREAT YOUR LONG-TERM CUSTOMERS VERIZON.

    • Anonymous

      This has been known for awhile that featurephones unlimited would not be grandfathered.

    • cyanid3

      First of all thats not how it works, you can’t add an Unlimited Data Plan to a Feature Phone and be locked into it. You have to Upgrade a Smartphone and get the Smartphone Unlimited Data Plan.

      Secondly you only have to pay a $35 restocking fee if you return the equipment out right and want your money back, but if you exchange it for another device you don’t have to pay for a restocking fee you only pay the difference of the item or get refunded if you paid more for the original item

      Thirdly LOTS of people are calling Verizon Call Center, doesn’t matter if you’re a new customer or have been one for years everyone has to wait. I’m so tired of people saying “Long Term Customer”, “I’ve been with Verizon since the beginning, before they were Verizon”. IT DOESN”T FRIGGING MATTER! That doesn’t give you special treatment we treat everyone the same get over yourself and stop trying to make people who are just trying to help you feel bad shoot…

    • cyanid3

      First of all thats not how it works, you can’t add an Unlimited Data Plan to a Feature Phone and be locked into it. You have to Upgrade a Smartphone and get the Smartphone Unlimited Data Plan.

      Secondly you only have to pay a $35 restocking fee if you return the equipment out right and want your money back, but if you exchange it for another device you don’t have to pay for a restocking fee you only pay the difference of the item or get refunded if you paid more for the original item

      Thirdly LOTS of people are calling Verizon Call Center, doesn’t matter if you’re a new customer or have been one for years everyone has to wait. I’m so tired of people saying “Long Term Customer”, “I’ve been with Verizon since the beginning, before they were Verizon”. IT DOESN”T FRIGGING MATTER! That doesn’t give you special treatment we treat everyone the same get over yourself and stop trying to make people who are just trying to help you feel bad shoot…

      • Granted

        Shit, I was with Verizon before they even were a company. I was their first customer back in 1560, and I had a smart human who I would smack in the head and give him a note to take top another town for me.

        And it’s easy to see why Verizon reps get a bad rap, if all the ones you deal with are vapid whores that will tell you anything to get you to buy a phone. Like I’ve said before, they share the same blood line with used car salesman.

        And yes long time customers should get better treatment. It’s just that we live in a sad world where all customers are seen only as a number and a dollar sign, and after that dollar is gained, well you matter as much as shit stuck to the bottom of their shoe.

        Oh I should add, I also slept with the mother of the gentleman who’s great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandson started Verizon. And I slapped her sister on the butt and called her a trollop. So yeah I think I’ve been with them longer than you and am definitely a long term customer that deserves preferential treatment.

  • DBZSTER

    VERIZON’S ACTIVATION NETWORK IS DOWN

  • http://www.cmiper.com cmiper

    I don’t know if this applies to Verizon or not, but it’s something that AT&T did…
    Even if you are “grandfathered” on your data plan, any changes to that data plan INCLUDING ADDING TETHERING forces you into a new tiered plan.

    We had some users at my office who wanted to add tethering to their corporate unlimited data plans, and were told that they would have to give up the unlimited plan to do so.

    Again, not certain this is the case with Vz, but something to look into.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the reminder. I’ve been meaning to switch from the $45 to the $30 plan. Did that today and according to the rep will be able to keep my free 2000 TXT messaging allowance from back in 2006. She did state that I would have been able to switch to the $30 unlimited from the $45 unlimited plan after tomorrow, but I don’t want to push my luck.

  • Anonymous

    OK, so I reread and what I really want to know is what this means:
    “2GB plans will not be eligible for discounts”If this means any new customer needs to buy the 5GB plan to get a subsidy on a smartphone or tablet well that is a big FU from Verizon.Now if I was a conspiracy theorist I would also say that means people looking to get grandfathered in will get a reduce or no subsidy when they sign their contract.  OK, I’ve fed the craziness enough for one article.

    • DroidzFX

      The discounts they are referring to are company and government discounts

      • Anonymous

        I have noticed in stores they have reduced the tablet subsidy, at least on the cheapest plan.  So that’s why it caught my attention.

  • Anonymous

    I thought “unlimited data” for a feature phone and “unlimited data” for a smartphone were different plans. I would be careful just adding unlimited data to your feature phone and hope that you’ll be grandfathered in. I bought my wife an OG Droid on craigslist and added the smartphone unlimited data plan just to be safe. She thinks she wants an iPwn 5 but maybe some CM7 goodness till September will convince her otherwise.

  • Anonymous

    Where the “gotcha” will be is sharing data via family plan (assuming it is coming).  Assuming it lowers your total monthly cost per line it’ll likely force you into tiered data plans.  I see this as their prod to move as many grandfathered lines to tiered as possible.

    I see the sales pitch:
    Got a phone and tablet and don’t want to pay for hotspot (and assuming you aren’t using alternative methods)?  Just get a family plan to share the data and allow each their own dedicated data connection.
    Or add that spouse that racks up 300 MB/month without paying $30/month.

  • Tristan Escalada

    Here is my question… I have unlimited 3g now and no tethering plan. I upgrade to a 4g phone next week and want the tethering plan. Do I get grandfathered in on the unlimited 4g tethering plan for $30 or do I get the 2gb/month for $20?

  • Ryancooper143

    I dont care about this, im locked…

    JUST RELEASE THE DROID 3!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000488294428 Steven Gerbitz

    Does This count if I have a blackberry phone, and then switch to Droid3 when it launches? or am I still screwed?

    • http://AndroidTaskForce.com Chris Gustafson

      You will be grandfathered in.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget to remind people to check their actual usage before signing a contract they may not need.  Average user (which obviously isn’t average DL user) uses only about 600 MB or so from the last report I remember using.  No need for someone to buy a Android phone they don’t really want now unless there are positive they are going to be consistent media users.

    • cyanid3

      I think that doesn’t matter…even if I only used 200MB on an unlimited data plan thats whatever, cause I will never have to worry about my usage. But if I had to pay the SAME amount monthly for LIMITED Data I’d be pissed.

      • Anonymous

        The other side of the argument:
        If some tech blog evangelist got me to buy a smartphone when I didn’t really want one yet but scared me over unlimited data and then a coupe months later a phone I wanted much more came out and I wound up only needing $30/month for data anyway because of my usage I would be pissed.

  • http://AndroidTaskForce.com Chris Gustafson

    I would like to point out that if you have a feature phone now and plan on upgrading to a smartphone and want unlimited data. You need a smartphone before tomorrow.  Just getting unlimited data for feature phones will not work unfortunately.

  • http://maxtechnewz.blogspot.com/ max

    i dont trust the tier data plans thats why i am switching to sprint as soon as the galaxy s 2 comes over 

  • http://maxtechnewz.blogspot.com/ max

    i dont trust the tier data plans thats why i am switching to sprint as soon as the galaxy s 2 comes over 

  • http://maxtechnewz.blogspot.com/ max

    i dont trust the tier data plans thats why i am switching to sprint as soon as the galaxy s 2 comes over 

  • Anonymous

    I’ve asked this question before, but haven’t seen a reassuring answer yet.

    I know that unlimited feature phone data, now, doesn’t help you to keep your unlimited data plan when you upgrade to a smartphone.

    However, what about a Blackberry unlimited data plan?  Will you be able to purchase a Droid 3 and still maintain unlimited data if you are on a Blackberry unlimited data plan?  If I’m not mistaken, VZW has a different name for BB data plans than smartphone data plans.

    • http://profiles.google.com/mpaa.hasta.love.me I Pirate Movies

      I’d say you should upgrade to an Android phone ASAP.  And not just for the security of the unlimited data, but because Blackberries are so 2007.

      • Anonymous

        Dude, I’ve had a D1 since launch date.  The Blackberry has been in the drawer with my Palm Treo.  The Droid 3 will be for my Fiance, who doesn’t have a smartphone yet.  Getting the Blackberry fired up would only be to lock in unlimited data for her….that’s why I’m asking.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000488294428 Steven Gerbitz

      I was wondering the same thing.. But when i called and talked to VZW about this, they told me that they are not sure when the new Tiered plans are coming out.. This was last night..

      • LionStone

        refer to EC8CH’s reply to Anthony above…lol!!

    • http://AndroidTaskForce.com Chris Gustafson

      Don’t believe they do that anymore. I have two Android phones and Two Blackberry’s. They both show up as having “Unlimited Data”. On the features menu and detailed billing. You should be fine, but you can call and make sure.

      • Anonymous

        Thanks for the input!

        Now, if our Tigers could just get back to winning again…!!

        • http://AndroidTaskForce.com Chris Gustafson

          Ahh! I know!

  • Anonymous

    I’ve asked this question before, but haven’t seen a reassuring answer yet.

    I know that unlimited feature phone data, now, doesn’t help you to keep your unlimited data plan when you upgrade to a smartphone.

    However, what about a Blackberry unlimited data plan?  Will you be able to purchase a Droid 3 and still maintain unlimited data if you are on a Blackberry unlimited data plan?  If I’m not mistaken, VZW has a different name for BB data plans than smartphone data plans.

  • Mike101288

     I have an LG enV and have been due for an upgrade since Feb. but have been holding off for the Bionic.  If I get the unlimited data plan for my current LG enV, will I be grandfathered in and be able to get the unlimited data plan for my Bionic once it comes out?

    • http://twitter.com/DavisDarvish Davis Darvish

      nope… because it wont be a smartphone data plan.. you still have a feature phone. i say you but the shittiest blackberry money can buy on craigslist today and activate it if you want unlimited data..

    • http://twitter.com/DavisDarvish Davis Darvish

      nope… because it wont be a smartphone data plan.. you still have a feature phone. i say you but the shittiest blackberry money can buy on craigslist today and activate it if you want unlimited data..

    • http://twitter.com/DavisDarvish Davis Darvish

      nope… because it wont be a smartphone data plan.. you still have a feature phone. i say you but the shittiest blackberry money can buy on craigslist today and activate it if you want unlimited data..

  • http://www.facebook.com/supahtylar Tylar Reid

    I like how you have the Droid Bionic question there, that’s exactly what I wanted to know and plan on doing. :)

  • EC8CH

    Its the end of the world as we know it.

    Its the end of the world as we know it.

    Its the end of the world as we know it.

    But I feel fine!

    *cause I’m locked into unlimited data :-P

    • Anonymous

      I fear this is one lock VZW will soon release…

    • T Hall

      Yeah!!! All we can eat!!!

    • T Hall

      Yeah!!! All we can eat!!!

    • Y-care

      But YOU MUST stay with the head idiots..verizon…HA YOU ARE LOCKED INTO VERISON !!!!!!  too bad , sorry about your luck but some of us are FREE ,  yeah,,, YOU LOCKED IN JAIL,like the commercial..enjoy .You are actually proud that you joined forces with another one of these corp thieves, really..That’s why we have such crappy cell programs, because Americans suck as consumers!! But at least YOU ARE LOCKED UP LIKE A PRISONER CAUGHT WITH THE WARDENS BOYFRIEND ..Those Of us with pride and ethic walked and are now in a rather attractive plna that YOU will NEVER know about ..Hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahha ( INSERT LOUD LAUGH HERE)    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAH.hHAHAAHAAHHAHHAHHAAHAHAHHAHA
      wHY WOULD any IONTELLIGENT PERSON BELIEVE THEMSELVES lucky, smart, OR feel fine  FOR BEING locked into anything,that is never good!! BUT ( INSERT MORE LAUGHS HERE)  hahahahahahahahahahHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAHAA

  • thaTRUF

    what is a feature phone?

    • App

      i.e. dumbphone

    • App

      i.e. dumbphone

    • Anonymous

      They’re made by Apple. Dr. Droid likes to call them app jukeboxes. :P

    • Anonymous

      They’re made by Apple. Dr. Droid likes to call them app jukeboxes. :P

  • Anonymous

    I’m running cm7 on my bolt right now and I am interested in adding that 30.00 unlimited tethering. Will I be able to add this feature? Will the official wifi hotspots app be available to root users? Also, do I add that today? Or does it begin tomorrow? Please help!!!!!!!!!

  • Beau

    Even if my wife’s phone is not a smartphone, but a LG chocolate touch. She is not Ble to upgrade till necxt next week, can I up her line to unlimited now and be grandfathered in?

    • DroidzFX

      I would call and see what they can do for you. A lot of times they will upgrade you early.

    • http://twitter.com/Nomad2311 Nicholas Weih

      Yes I would think so and diffidently would do it

    • cyanid3

      No feature phones can’t add the unlimited data plan and be locked into it. You have to upgrade into a smartphone to get it. Though if you are within 7 days of the upgrade date they can move your upgrade to today. Or you can call tech support complain about just random issues with her phone and say you want your upgrade moved up so you can get a new phone.

    • cyanid3

      No feature phones can’t add the unlimited data plan and be locked into it. You have to upgrade into a smartphone to get it. Though if you are within 7 days of the upgrade date they can move your upgrade to today. Or you can call tech support complain about just random issues with her phone and say you want your upgrade moved up so you can get a new phone.

    • cyanid3

      No feature phones can’t add the unlimited data plan and be locked into it. You have to upgrade into a smartphone to get it. Though if you are within 7 days of the upgrade date they can move your upgrade to today. Or you can call tech support complain about just random issues with her phone and say you want your upgrade moved up so you can get a new phone.

  • Anonymous

    Wasn’t there some talk about shared data?  I want to get an android device for my wife but can’t justify the $30 extra for her to download a few games here or there.  I love the family share minutes because I have bought phones for my in-laws as well and they use maybe fifty minutes a month between them.  Data should be put in the shared bucket plans too.  I was hoping that tomorrow would bring that option too

  • DroidzFX

    I am still not sure if this is actually gonna happen.

  • Anthony

    Hate to confuse the issue, but I just spoke to a VZW rep and he stated that if you go to a new device after tomorrow, you will have to go to the new plan.  He compared it folks that stay on America’s choice plans and are allowed to keep their plans.  So, according to this rep, even if you are on a 4G unlimited plan today, you have to go to the new pricing model if you change your 4G phone tomorrow.   I know this is counter to what is published in this post, but just wanted to provide another data point.

    • Anonymous

      I am not surprised. Many of the Verizon sales (not tech) reps have trouble telling an iphone from a blackberry. Just shows Verizon still has no idea what it is doing.

    • DroidzFX

      The reps dont know what they are talking about the just want to sell you a 4g phone.

    • Anonymous

      Say Whaaaaaat?

    • EC8CH

      Load up Droid-Life on one of their sample XOOM’s and slap that sales rep across the face with it.

      See if that helps :-P

    • cyanid3

      That is not the case, I am I Verizon Rep and my Direct Verizon Manger has told us that if you have a 3G phone and you upgrade after July 7th into a 4G device you will still be locked into the Unlimited Data plan. And it has been in multiple training documents.

      • Anonymous

        My problem is vzw reps can & HAVE “accidentally” put me on the wrong data plan $45 instead of $30 so if you switch someday they could “accidentally” put u on a tiered plan, and from what I have read there is NO going back!

        At least with a 4G phone a sim card swap should not cause any accidents…. in terms of changing plans without your knowledge, before hand.

        • Dr_samedi2000

          The “wrong data plan” is very easy to do.  Only with Blackberries.  I’m a rep, and the system automatically adds the corp. data plan ($45) instead of the regular, BIS plan when you sell out a blackberry.  It’s easy to realize now though, because if you forget to change it to the $30 option, you cannot set up the email on the device.  BB6 will assume an enterprise server is being used if it receives that as part of its service books.  It’s caught me twice.

          • Anonymous

            This was a Droid1 not BB… 

          • Dr_samedi2000

            Then somebody just f’ed you.  Sorry, man.  Droids have never defaulted to $45 plan. 

      • Anonymous

        Anything said about subsidy difference (if any) depending on tier or versus unlimited grandfathered line? 

    • http://profiles.google.com/mpaa.hasta.love.me I Pirate Movies

      Although I believe that you are just trolling, or the VZW rep doesn’t
      know shit because he’s just a part time minimum wage flunky, what you
      say will eventually happen.  VZW will come out and say at some point
      that the new phone you want to upgrade to requires a new special type of
      data plan and therefore you will be on tiered data.  But I doubt that
      will happen right away.  They will shed a lot of subs if they do that.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Gaton/39108373 Chris Gaton

        Uh, is that really how you view Verizon reps?  A “part-time minimum wage flunky”?

        • Rizzidy

          That’s how everyone views them.

        • http://profiles.google.com/mpaa.hasta.love.me I Pirate Movies

          well seeing how it is a job that doesn’t require an education nor any discernible level of intelligence, yes that is how i view them.

          don’t hate on me if that is all you are qualified to do.  maybe try flipping burgers instead?

          • Dr_samedi2000

            When you qualify to move out of your Mom’s basement and get laid, let us know, ok buddy?

          • http://profiles.google.com/mpaa.hasta.love.me I Pirate Movies

            I get laid every day.  I’m married with 5 kids and I earn over $175k a year as a VP at a pharmaceutical company.

          • Anonymous

            And what are you?  A mall cop?

          • VZW Employee

            if minimum wage starts at $15 an hour then I guess that’s ok. btw never seen a part time VZW employee before, atleast not round these parts.

          • VZW Employee

            if minimum wage starts at $15 an hour then I guess that’s ok. btw never seen a part time VZW employee before, atleast not round these parts.

        • http://profiles.google.com/mpaa.hasta.love.me I Pirate Movies

          well seeing how it is a job that doesn’t require an education nor any discernible level of intelligence, yes that is how i view them.

          don’t hate on me if that is all you are qualified to do.  maybe try flipping burgers instead?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Gaton/39108373 Chris Gaton

        Uh, is that really how you view Verizon reps?  A “part-time minimum wage flunky”?

    • Anonymous

      good thing I have 3 emails from vzw saying i can upgrade and still keep unlimited. Why do people think what vzw reps say are the gospel?  even the vzw support on twitter said you would be grandfathered. smh at you

  • El El Kool J

    still rockin out my employee line,… :P always unlimited..

  • tjmonkey15

    They should call it “teared” data, because they make us cry.  Get it?

    • Anonymous

      I was going to Like your post until you put “Get it?”  The quotes infers you want us to pay attention to the words you chose. 

      /I’mAnnoying

      • http://profiles.google.com/mpaa.hasta.love.me I Pirate Movies

        there needs to be a “dislike” button.  get it?  :p

      • tjmonkey15

        Obviously the first sentence in my post was easy to understand, which is why the “get it” part was just a joke.

        The “I’m annoying” part of your post seems to fit you perfectly.  I’m glad you’ve found the strength to admit it.

        • Anonymous

          Yes, just one of those moods to post something annoying, but you can check my comment history, it isn’t a habit.  This being a tech blog comments section I take none of it serious and assume everything is a (complete) joke.

          • tjmonkey15

            Ah, I get it.  So you were joking too.  That’s what sucks about forums/blogs, you never know what’s a joke and what’s sincere.  I’ll continue to post stuff that won’t make sense because nobody knows its a joke, and you keep posting stuff that is purposely annoying and we’ll provide entertainment for everyone!

          • Anonymous

            Next time I’ll just stick with the /s.  lol