Back at the beginning of October, sources of ours (which Verizon confirmed) informed us that unlimited data plans on Verizon would see a $20 per month price hike starting November 15. A whole bunch of you saw our report, along with the follow-up we did with additional details on who it affected, and came away (rightfully) pissed off. However, it has become clear to us within the past week that not everyone saw it, because our inbox has been pinged multiple times per day with freshly angered Verizon customers who are just now learning about the increase on the way to their monthly bill.
It appears as if Verizon started notifying unlimited data plan subscribers at the beginning of November by welcoming them to their online account page with a pop-up, a pop-up that we have included at the top of this post. As you can see, it does indeed say that on November 15, they are increasing unlimited data feature pricing by $20 per month for those not currently in a 2-year contract.
Keep in mind that this increase does not affect you if you are currently under contract or enter into a new one. That’s right, there is a way to avoid the increase! If you can find an unlimited-data-keeping work-around that still works that will lock you into another 2-year contract, now would be the time to do it. Here are some examples of the types of tricks you can do to keep unlimited data at Verizon while upgrading.
Long story short – yes, Verizon is upping your unlimited data plan pricing to $49.99 per month, which is a $20 increase of the $29.99 you have paid since the beginning of time.
You have 6 days to figure out a way to avoid that increase.
A Google search today brought me here and a few other sites. I guess many already knew of the increase, but I did not! I just filed a complaint with the FCC. I got notice of a fee increase on my bill last month, but it did not say how much. Did not know of the $20.00 increase until after I got the bill. The fact Verizon did not state the fee increase would be $20.00 on my prior bill is unethical. AT&T just did something similar I found out, but they increased only by a more reasonable $5.00 per line. $20.00 is gouging. I am further ticked because my family recently bought new phones at FULL RETAIL price to in order to secure our unlimited plan. If I knew of the increase would be $20.00, I might not have bought new full retail Verizon phones and went with a different carrier. But, to late not even given the option because they never told ME the actual increase amount and 66% is way to much for the average family with multiple devices.
File a complaint with FCC and FTC for deceptive practices.
This is the second major price increase because the phone subsidy was included
in the price of the old plan, but upgrading with a new contract and subsidy
ended 2 years ago and you had to buy phone full price. The suggestion of this
article to start a new contract will not work because if you upgrade with
contract you lose unlimited data. Verizon was purposely deceptive by
eliminating contracts of all unlimited users telling them they could ‘keep’
their plans until they chose to change to new price. That 1% of user base is likely
an inaccurate number, it is likely only those that have unlimited still under
contract which is almost impossible to have 2 years later. Speak up against
deceptive practices, file a complaint with FCC and email FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler.
More people need to speak up about Verizon directly deceiving customers.
Somebody got the big head ego now. This is why i left verizon years ago. They bills be too damn high. Tmobile and sprint are given unlimited data at a much cheaper price. Sprint just upgrade there network last month and tmobile is better. I would be a fool to go back to them
Be cautious with the BB method. I did not activatepower on the new device from BB with the new sim, just replaced with mine. (as mentioned a million times, never use the sim they send you if you want to keep UDP). Anyway, switched back to my old phone (deciding if I am going to keep or sell the new devices). Took calls, text, normal. A few hours later I noticed I could not text…or call. Got a message when I tried to call “Welcome to Verizon, your number is either not active or invalid, please call your provider”. Well, after rebooting, trying the new phone (old sim of course), nothing. Again….I NEVER turned on any device with the new SIM. Well, chatted with Verizon, they fixed it, but had to reset my SIM (had to give them my number) and IMEI. While I was on the site, before it was fixed, I copied the SIM number showing on my device. It was one of the NEW sims (but I still have UDP). The rep who fixed it changed it back to my old SIM and IMEI for my old phone. Somehow that pending order almost got through. Weird. Also, the rep said she saw we were on unlimited data, and of course said we could save money if we switch to a data sharing account.
Oh…gotta destroy those new SIMs too!
If anyone has the opportunity to work with VERIZONCHRIS I recommend you do! He helped me with my udp situation and I’m locked into a new 2 year contract because of his help!
Where can he be found. Need help
You can message him on rootzwiki. What’s your situation?
Same here… how exactly does one get in contact with this “VERIZONCHRIS”
He told me to make and account on rootzwiki and message him there. But I’m not sure what he will be able to do now that the 15th has passed.
I just locked myself into a 1-year contract, before the 15th… I’m hoping maybe he can extend that 1-2 years… Thanks for getting back and thanks for the tip!
You could also try finding one of his comments on this thread and replying to it. No problem! Best of luck!
I just talked to a VZW representative. He said that after the $20 monthly price increase on unlimited plans, those plans will once again be eligible for 2-year contract pricing on phones. So even though your monthly bill will go up—and over a 2 year period you’ll pay an extra $480 compared to today—you also won’t have to buy phones at full retail price anymore. So when you go to upgrade, you could get a $650 phone for $200, saving $450 on the upgrade (an option that isn’t available to unlimted plans today). All in all, it seems like this might be a wash…
So, I’ve now spent hours on the phone with VZW, trying to lock myself into a contract and avoid the price increase. This is what I’ve found so far…
They have loyalty promotions, which will not change your plan, but are a “feature change”, so you get to keep your unlimited data. With these promos, you can lock yourself into a 12-month contract and avoid the $20 price increase. I have verified this with several VZW reps.
Here’s the thing though. When they search for promos, the results are system generated. Customer service, nor their supervisors are apparently able to overwrite or manually put in any other promo codes (they can’t, not that they’re not willing). Therefore, you’re supposedly stuck with whatever promo is available for your account, in your area.
There’s a chance though, if you can get a supervisor to work with a “corporate liaison”, they can possibly make an exception and add a different promo. That’s the call I’m waiting on!
To lock me into a contract asap, the supervisor added an “International” promo, giving me unlimited calling to Mexico and Canada (not what I was looking for, but it locked me in before the increase). The promos she is looking into for me are 1 of 3… 100 minutes/month, 500 minutes/month, or even (if you can believe it) an “Unlimited” bonus minutes promotion, each for 12 months…. I’m obviously pushing for the later, but worst case I get nothing and still prevent the $20 increase for 12 months
Something to keep in mind, their promos change all the time… Just ask periodically, what “Loyalty promotions” are available. When I called, I was very straight forward with what my intentions were, rather than trying to mask the fact that I was trying to avoid the increase. I took the “hey, you understand where I’m coming from, right?” approach and it seemed to be received genuinely, from each rep I talked to. One even volunteered the same promo I had heard about in this thread, without me mentioning it (I was all set, until her system froze and I got disconnected from the call).
I hope this helps someone else and please provide feedback if anyone has better luck with the promos than I did 🙂
I was pretty straight forward with them as well and still got nowhere. So I did the BB method as the only option left to me. Glad I did. Don’t like being locked into another 2yr contract, but with the limited ‘unlimited’ options out there, what choice did I have? T Mo is going up as well Nov 15th plus their plan isn’t true unlimited with a slowdown at 23gb. Who in their right mind would pay VZ prices for that?!? With VZ I have at least true unlimited…
I never received a pop up message when I logged into my account (5x over the past week or so). However, there is a notice about the price increase on my last bill (fine print, last page).
“there is a way to avoid the increase! If you can find an unlimited-data-keeping work-around that still works that will lock you into another 2-year contract, now would be the time to do it. ” What would be that way? I have found no work around at keeping my unlimited data at the current price. sure, I have bought my phones out right, and used someone else’s upgrade. but how can i avoid this price increase????
Bestbuy method is the only way left.
Does anyone know what happens if you order from Best Buy before the 11/15 deadline, but don’t activate the phone (using old SIM, of course) until after? I ordered two phones yesterday using upgrades on UDP lines and paid for express shipping, one is out for delivery already today but the other seems to be in shipping limbo somewhere. My account info at VZW already shows that the contract has been extended into 2017, so it shouldn’t matter if I activate the phone tomorrow or next week, right? Will they back-out the contract extension if the phone isn’t activated by 11/15?
Quick question: Does Verizon lock down their phones? If I were to sell a subsidized phone, is it listed as ‘unlocked’ or do they actually lock it down to Verizon? Does it matter if it was activated or not?
No Verizon no longer locks down phones. Problem you will find is band support for VZW phones on other carriers…
So it can be sold as a ‘unlocked’ phone, then??
what I’ve seen is when you put AT&A or Sprint SIM into Verizon “unlocked” phones, the phone will have a message saying no Veizon SIM. However, the phone is able to make a call and receive texts, etc.
For international SIM when you travel outside the US, there should work perfectly fine.
Well, it will still have the Verizon branding all over the phone. But yes essentially you could I guess…
FYI, Adding Verizon’s Free International Value Plan will lock you into a 1 year contract so you aren’t effected by the $40 increase for the next 12 month. I just did it with both my unlimited lines.
Can this be done online by signing up for Standard Pay Per Minute (the international plan with a $0 monthly access fee)?
I had Verizon unlimited data plan and after finding this out I immediately switched to T-Mobile. I have 10GB of high speed for each line (4lines) for only $120 with data stash. Even if I go over the 10gb I don’t get charged overages I just get slowed down. It’s difficult to go over the 10 GB with unlimited music streaming and unlimited video streaming. Oh, did I mention that I have unlimited calling, text, and data in Mexico and Canada. Oh I also forgot to mention that I have unlimited data, free wifi calling to The US,and free text while traveling to the Caribbean, Europe or wherever. Oh I also forgot to mention that I get free texts while on planes supported by Go Go inflight texting. Oh I also forgot to mention that I’m having $140 a month. My iPhone 6S plus which supports t-mobile’s band 12 LTE coverage is kicking butt anymore I go throughout the New England area. So yeah, T-Mobile is perfect for me. Not regretting the decision at all. FU Verizon!
Anyone want a unlimited Verizon account for cheap, hit me a text. I had sususpended my account some time ago, as I was testing Tmobile. It has been great for where I live (Sacramento, CA) and since I don’t travel, no point in holding on to my Verizon account. So just let me know.
T Mo is going up in price now, too, following Verizons horrible lead….so heads up…..
Well not for me, I’m on the $100 unlimited for 2 family plan. So for me I only pay $50 for unlimited talk, text, and web. That is with 7gb of free hotspot. Comparably, with verizon, when all added up after the price hike, I will end up playing $140 for the just about the same thing, and that is without free hotspot. Even if you have the single plan of $95 with tmobile new raised price, its way better then playing $140 with verizon.
Weird, didn’t see the pop up on my account. The line that has unlimited data went month-to-month last month (status shows this on their site). I also checked the notification list on their site and not seeing it there either. My account not effected for some reason?
For those who seen this pop-up when you logged in, does this warning show up any where else on your account after you dismissed the message?
I didn’t get the pop up either…. however on my latest billing statement it lists it.
Hi We have 5 I phones with UDP all are eligible for upgrades. We want to keep our UDP what and how should we accomplish this?? Thanks for your help
Well technically the Nov. 15th deadline won’t take away your UPD, it is just going to up your monthly bill by $100/mo ($20 x 5 UDP). So if you want to use your eligible upgrades to lock in the $29.99/mo pricing for another 2 years, I believe the only way left to do this is buying online through Best Buy because the system doesn’t force you to select a new data plan if always select “keep my existing data plan”. You will get a new SIM card with each new phone—throw that away! You put your old SIM into the new phone, and viola you’ve got your upgrade with no change to your plan.
There maybe other 3rd party re-sellers that allow you to do the same as BB, but that is the only store I know of.
I want to do the Best Buy method for the droid turbo 2 but it’s not available for shipping. Does anyone know if this is a stock issue or if it will eventually be available?
I want to do the BB method for the Maxx 2 because it is $1.00, and I can still buy the Moto-XPE.
Was going to do that as well but as you said, not available. May just be a not available yet deal. So I got the $1 Sammy S6 instead…..
I have an UDP, and I’m eligible for an upgrade. If I transfer the upgrade to another (non-UDP) line and let them do an upgrade and keep the phone, that extends my contract for two years because the upgrade donor gets a contract renewal, right?
Yes, i did that the other day.
Awesome, thanks!
Did you keep unlimited data and exend the contract date on your udp?
Yes, transferred the upgrade to my wife, purchased a discounted iPhone for her line with a new two year contract . Once activated on her line, it extended my contract with UDP for two years.
Did you do it though a rep or online
I did it online through Verizon. Not sure about the contract date.. I didn’t check until the new phone was activated.
The day of reckoning is nigh. Did your contract extend the day you made the purchase or the day the other line activated the phone? I’m concerned that the phone won’t ship to me in time if the contract extension happens upon activation.
I ordered the phone late night on November 4th… My new contract ends November 5th, 2017…so as soon as my order was processed, the contract extended. I didn’t activate the phone until the 7th or 8th.
F U Big Red! I’ve been with VZW (and Alltel before they were acquired by VZW) since the late 90’s and the only thing keeping me with them was my Unlimited Data Plan. Now that they want to bend me over for that, I’m GONE. When I heard that this was coming, I finally left and went to Straight Talk. No regrets so far – no noticeable difference in coverage/speed – and a VERY noticeable MUCH smaller monthly bill.
I was looking at T-Mobile unlimited plan, then I read the terms and found this:
“Unlimited high-speed data customers who use more than 23GB of data during a billing cycle will be de-prioritized for the remainder of the billing cycle in times and at locations where there are competing customer demands for network resources”
I use average of 50GB a month so if I go over 23GB how much does my speed drop during peak time?
Depolarization of your service, on T-Mo, will only happen when the cell tower that your phone is connected to his experiencing high traffic. Any other time your speeds will be just like anyone else’s.
T Mo is going up in price following Verizon into the pricing abyss….heads up….
As a Canadian I wish we got unlimited data for just $50 a month.
It’s not just $50. Add in the calling part which adds another $30/$40 and you get up there around $80+.
“You have 6 days to figure out a way to avoid that increase”. Leave Verizon for T-Mobile, who just doubled data and announced free video streaming. Night and day, isn’t it
I tried T-Mo. My area I got 2.65mbps down and 0.68mbps up. That’s slower than edge speeds! That wont work for me. T-Mo is nice if it will work but it definitely will not work for everyone. AND according to T-Mo’s coverage page my area is blanketed in they’re NEW “extended” LTE service….RIGHT….
I have an OG Moto X 2013 with grandfathered unlimited data on a long out-of-contract “eligible for upgrade” VZW account. What’s the best/easiest way to keep my unlimited data for at least a while? Should I sign up for an Edge plan? Does the Best Buy method work with OG Moto X? I don’t even know how to get the sim card out of an OG Moto X and cut it down as described for the Best Buy. What if I just call VZW and get a new phone on a two year contract? I’m starting to tire of my OG Moto X anyway (although I do love the small size.)
BestBuy method is your only option. The way to do the bestbuy method is to order the phone online, you will get a warning that Unlimited Data package is no longer available and you will be switched to a 2GB plan when you order just ignore that, and have the new device shipped to your house. 2 business day shipping is free when you order a device through bestbuy. When the phone arrives at your house ***DO NOT POWER ON THE DEVICE BEFORE YOU REMOVE THE NEW SIM CARD!!!***, remove the preinstalled sim card from the new device and destroy it. The OG Moto X uses a Nano sim card so you shouldn’t have to worry about cutting your sim, it will fit into any new device you purchase. After installing your sim into the new device boot it on and let it run through the activation. After that you are free to return to using your Moto X and sell the new device or keep the new device and use it. After that you should be able to log in to your VZW account home page and verify that your contract has been extended without changing your plan. Whatever you do though: ***DO NOT POWER ON THE DEVICE BEFORE YOU REMOVE THE NEW SIM CARD!!!*** ***DO NOT POWER ON THE DEVICE BEFORE YOU REMOVE THE NEW SIM CARD!!!*** ***DO NOT POWER ON THE DEVICE BEFORE YOU REMOVE THE NEW SIM CARD!!!*** ***DO NOT POWER ON THE DEVICE BEFORE YOU REMOVE THE NEW SIM CARD!!!***
The edge program does not extend your contract, it just gives you a device payment.
Correction: 2 business day shipping is NOT free when ordering through BB. I just did this this morning and I can assure you, it was not free.
it may have changed I just ordered a droid turbo last month and two day free shipping is available.
I just went through the upgrade process, but did not place the order. I did not see where it was supposed to ask about keeping my plan (or changing it because of being on UDP). I have two lines on UDP. Is that normal for BB? I was hoping I didn’t miss something in some small print. I know about not powering on with the new sim.
Also, I did get the pop up, but the $20 fee increase seems to apply to only my account (vs $40 because I have two devices). Their bill estimator showed a $20 increase monthly, not $40. Wonder if that is correct.
hi Sporttster : I’m about to do the same thing and probably will have to do the express shipping. please keep us posted on the experience. Once you swap the SIM and if you still retain the UDP. Thank you!
By the time the I do the sim swap Thursday and let you know, it will be just about too late for you to jump in. If you’re gonna do it, you best do it now before the 15th when the price increase goes live…
Yeah, that’s what I did. I just placed an order for an S6 with the express shipping of $26. I’ll get it by Thursday. I just want to know others’ experience as well. Thanks!
It seems that I have read that we will see the change in contract date immediately. If that is the case is it ok if I avoid paying the shipping charges or will the plan change price if the new phone has not been activated on my old sim?
That’s a really really good question I cannot answer. Was kinda wondering that myself….
My contract date has changed. Will get new phone Friday. See what happens
It may simply be the date that you order a new phone as long as somewhere down the line you activate the phone but even that is a question whether it needs to be activated or not. Someone said BB requires it but does not enforce it.
What does $20. get you now in data? It’s a joke, so is the price hike. I’m at 15 gigs now, half-way through my cycle. Rest assured I’ll be pushing my UD and Unlimited Hotspot to the max!
I have a question with a Best Buy method. I’m on an unlimited plan and just bought Moto X pure a month ago. So Can I buy Galaxy S6 off Best Buy website for $1 with 2 year contract? When I get the S6, I would remove the nano SIM that comes with the S6 and then remove the nano SIM from my Moto X pure and put it in the S6. Turn on the S6, should S6 work right away or do I have to to VZW website to activate or do anything else?
Also, afterwards Can I just take the nano SIM out of the S6 and put it back into my Moto X Pure ? I want to use my Moto X pure. Then I can sell S6 off craigslist or something? This way I get to keep my unlimited data? Is this correct or am I missing something? Thanks for the advice.
That is correct. You put your sim card in the S6, ***DO NOT POWER ON THE DEVICE BEFORE YOU REMOVE THE NEW SIM CARD!!!***, then turn it on and wait for it to activate. Once it activates then you’re free to move the sim back to your X-PE, you’re free to do with the S6 as you please and you will be locked in to another 2 yr contract with VZW. What ever you do though ***DO NOT POWER ON THE DEVICE BEFORE YOU REMOVE THE NEW SIM CARD!!!*** and be sure to destroy the new sim so it can never be used. Good luck…
Thank you o0Exia0o. One other question. Per your advice, you said not to pick up at store or buy it at store since they will force you to activate the phone. How much of a possibility if I won’t let them force me and tell them that I’ll come back to activate myself. I just checked BestBuy website for shipping and availability, unless I pay for Express shipping, I won’t be able to get the phone before Wed 18. (not sure how much the express shipping costs but it might be worth it).
Thank you!
2 business day shipping should be available for free. Today being the 11/10 you should be able to have the device by at the very latest the 11/15. DO NOT GO INTO THE STORE. Store employees are told that before a customer leaves with a contract device that they HAVE TO have the device activated and up for use. Nor will they allow you to switch the sim before turning on the device. USE THE ONLINE, SHIPED TO YOUR HOM METHOD…
Thank you!
o0Exia0o. Sorry one other question. Once I put my Moto XPE’s SIM into S6, turn it on then wait until it runs it course. Do I need to check on my Verizon Account whether S6 is now My Device on Verizon website? If it shows, then when I put the SIM back to my Moto XPE, would there be a discrepancy between my actual device which is my Moto XPE vs my device as shown in Verizon Account which is S6? Or it doesn’t even matter whatever it shows on Verizon Website vs what I actually have? Thanks again!
You have to activate the s6, let it run the activation at least 1 once for the VZW system. You don’t have to set up the phone or anything just turn on the phone and let it hit the cellular network, after that you can shut off the new device and swap your sim back and everything should register as it should on VZW’s website. Then you can throw the phone on eBay, Craigslist or swappa.com and recoup the money you spent on the X-PE. At least that’s what I would do… I would still check the website to be sure the changes take effect to be safe though…
Thanks for the advice.
I placed an order for an S6 through Best Buy yesterday. This morning I checked my Verizon account online and the contract date has already been extended to Nov 2017. I’m supposed to receive the S6 by Thursday tomorrow. I was wondering what if when I receive the S6, I just took the SIM out and throw it away then sell that right away with out putting the SIM from my Moto XPE into it (meaning doesn’t activate the S6 for the first time), I’m assuming that wouldn’t work even though my contract has already been extended, correct? I need to activate my S6 at least for the first time, so the person I sell it to can actually have the phone that can be used?
HUMMM…. Good question… The thing is that if you read the BestBuy “terms and conditions” page that pops up when you purchase the phone at discounted pricing I believe that it states that the phone needs to be activated within 30 days of purchase or BestBuy reserves the right to charge you full price if you don’t activate the device (I think, I don’t believe I have ever heard of that happening to anyone though). I also wouldn’t put it past Verizon to do something Douchie like drop off your 2 year contract extension because the device was never activated on the account also. Like I said though, just to be on the safe side I would put my sim in the phone and let it run through the cellular activation once just to make sure I were covered against any potential “fine print” that would give them a reason to screw you, because lets face it VZW LOVES to screw…. CHEERS!
Yeah. I agree. I was asked out of curiosity. Thanks!
Update:I received my S6 from BB today. Went through the steps that were discussed. Once I put my SIM from my Moto XPE in S6, I turned on S6 and did a few steps on S6. Sent a text, made a call and browsed the internet to make sure that S6 was functioning. I checked my VZ online account and it did show that my device is S6. Then I removed the SIM and put it back to my Moto XPE, turn it back on and it works as normal. Went to VZ online account again, now it shows that my device is back to Moto XPE.
Hopefully this works. I’m curios, How would verizon know that the S6 has been activated once since now my account online went back to show that Moto XPE is my device?
VZW’s system logs devices MEID used on an account for reference and convenience. Like I said you could have tried to not activate the s6 at all but then there’s the risk of bestbuy charging you full price. But I’m glad everything worked out for you. Cheers friend and enjoy your UDP….
In an attempt to save $20 a month, i just bought a samsung galaxy s6 on best buy for $1 and signed a 2 year contract to keep the same plan. + $35 upgrade fee. fingers crossed.
Vuck Ferizon!
I am thinking about doing the best buy upgrade to keep my UDP. I currently have Galaxy S3. Will I be able to convert my micro sim from the S3 to nano sim by just cutting it or will I have have to get a new sim from verizon?
Safest way is to cut your current sim. Changing the sim is what will cost you your UDP.
Not necessarily. After about an amount of time the account should reflect that the old plan is still in effect but the contract end date should be extended for another 2 years. I’d say after about a month one should be in the clear to get a new sim without adverse affects to the account.
I would suggest that you cut down the sim you have. Once your new device is activated with the old sim and your account has not changed then you can go to a corporate VZW store and get a new sim, but I would wait about a month after you have been using your new device before trying to get a new sim as they might try to change your plan with the new sim….
Yay it works. Let’s see for how long.
Good to hear. Cheers and enjoy the UDP my friend.
Ahh another conundrum. I just saw that best buy has s6 edge+ for 250. But i have already bought the note 5. Will it be safe if i return the note 5 and get the edge+
As long as you are within bestbuy’s 14 day return period you should be able to
if u are…ur gonna have to pay extra for rush shipping to get it in time…fyi decide quick!
BestBuy has the 2 business day free shipping on cell phones, so he should be good if he does it in the next couple of days….
Not free. Did it this morning….but do it quick!
Again, I just ordered a droid turbo last month and the 2 day shipping was free. They may have changed it at this point though…
smart guy like me on a family plan got me and my sister two droid turbo 2 for 290 each from vzw….and a note 5 through best buy for my father for 290…kept unlimited data plans on all 3 lines…and extended for two years….eat my D verizon
I thought old Alltel contracts were still an exception? Did this change?
Do you have an All-tel plan? If you do are you seeing this notice? It was my understanding that All-Tel Plans that did not include a separate line charge for UDP would be exempt from this change…
I do have an Alltel plan. I logged onto my account a couple of weeks ago and saw something like this but it disappeared before I could read it. I can’t find the message again. I was told by a rep that this would not affect me, but you know how that goes.
Like I said, if you do not have a separate line charge on your bill for UDP (It usually shows up something like “Unlimited data on consumer PDA 29.99”) then you should be safe. But if your bill has a separate line charge for data then brace yourself for the prostate exam VZW is about to give you….
I have “Email & Web Unlimited” that shows up under the charges from my personal phone line along with another line for the alltell phone line and another for the texting. They in separate lines. Is there anyway to find that message again?
But are they showing that they are being charged separately? As in XXXX Minuets-$9.99 Email & Web Unlimited-$29.99 Texting-$10.00? Or are they all listed and show only 1 price for all?
separate charges
Then you are included in the $20.00 increase. Thus your in club boned… Welcome to the club and enjoy your stay… Sorry man….
I don’t think $50 for unlimited is a lot to ask if they offered me unlimited for $50 I would jump on it right now
The problem arises when you add the $40+ for the calling plan part, THEN it starts getting $$$! Mine would have been over $95 for one line….on a corporate acct no less….
Hi all, I have a question regarding the best buy method. I have a single line with a national loyalty 200 minutes with unlimited data. I currently have a samsung s3 (my last new every two upgrade to keep unlimited when unlimited ended) I am looking at moto x 2nd Gen for $1. I do see where it says the warning about unlimitted data being replaced with 2GB. Do I get to keep my calling plan when I upgrade? FYI a $50 gift card from best buy is an option to add when purchasing a moto x. Thanks in advance.
The thing you need to know about the BestBuy method is 1) You have to order the device you want online, when you do you will see the warning that Unlimited Data Plan is no longer available. Proceed with the order anyways. 2) Your plan WILL NOT change until the device is received and the SIM card in the new device is activated. SO THE FIRST THING YOU DO WHEN YOU RECEIVE THE NEW DEVICE IS TO TAKE OUT THE PREINSTALED SIM CARD THAT COMES WITH THE DEVICE.
***DO NOT POWER ON THE DEVICE BEFORE YOU REMOVE THE NEW SIM CARD!!!***
***DO NOT POWER ON THE DEVICE BEFORE YOU REMOVE THE NEW SIM CARD!!!***
***DO NOT POWER ON THE DEVICE BEFORE YOU REMOVE THE NEW SIM CARD!!!***
***DO NOT POWER ON THE DEVICE BEFORE YOU REMOVE THE NEW SIM CARD!!!***
If you power on the new device with the new sim card installed in it you will forever loose the Unlimited Data Plan. Get a sim cutter off of amazon (they cost something like $7) and cut the sim you have down to NANO sim size.
***DO NOT POWER ON THE DEVICE BEFORE YOU REMOVE THE NEW SIM CARD!!!***
***DO NOT POWER ON THE DEVICE BEFORE YOU REMOVE THE NEW SIM CARD!!!***
***DO NOT POWER ON THE DEVICE BEFORE YOU REMOVE THE NEW SIM CARD!!!***
After that use your old sim card in the new phone and you should see no change on the plan.
Just remember though: ***DO NOT POWER ON THE DEVICE BEFORE YOU REMOVE THE NEW SIM CARD!!!*** ***DO NOT POWER ON THE DEVICE BEFORE YOU REMOVE THE NEW SIM CARD!!!*** ***DO NOT POWER ON THE DEVICE BEFORE YOU REMOVE THE NEW SIM CARD!!!***
this post is perfect for people who are considering this…u follow the simple instructions youll be fine…you f up…you f up…so dont f up
Well I should have also said that when using this method, HAVE THE DEVICE SHIPPED TO YOUR HOME. Do not try to do this by having the device shipped to the store or purchasing the device at the store as they will try to force you to activate the device before leaving the store. But always remember:
***DO NOT POWER ON THE DEVICE BEFORE YOU REMOVE THE NEW SIM CARD!!!***
***DO NOT POWER ON THE DEVICE BEFORE YOU REMOVE THE NEW SIM CARD!!!***
***DO NOT POWER ON THE DEVICE BEFORE YOU REMOVE THE NEW SIM CARD!!!***
Thank you all for your relies. Regarding the SIM card, my S3 has a MicroSIM and the new phone has a Nano, other than cutting the micro to nano, is it possible to go to a Verizon store, say that I will buy a friends used phone with a nano, would they give me a nano SIM with my voice and data plan?
It is possible they will do it that way, but if you order a new device and they see the order pending on your account they might decline giving you a nano sim kit on the premise that one comes pre installed in the phone. Your best bet is going to be a $7 amazon.com sim cutter.
Hey, o0Exia0o, I just want to thank you again for your help. I ended up getting an S6, got the sim cutter did as you instructed and success!!! Kept my old calling plan and most important my unlimited data with my contract ending 11/10/17. Thanks!
No problem, I enjoy seeing VZ-$CREW-U be the ones getting screwed when I can. Enjoy your data my friend….
I did the best but method twice within the past year, once for my LG g2 another time for my wife’s iphone 6. Both times I got that warning about the 2gb plan but if you follow the instructions about getting a new SIM or not activating until a new SIM, you should be fine. I hope to try the best buy method again when my contract is up next year.
I still have yet to receive any such notice.
Transferred both my UDP line upgrades to my third non-smartphone line to lock in another 2 year contract on both lines. Bought two new iPhones @ 2 year contract price and sold them on eBay for full retail. No price increase on UDP for 2 years and money in my pocket for a 6P.
Stop being cheap. Even at $20 more a month vzw has best service . u can pay 49.99 for unlimited or 45 for 3 gbs u choose
Even with the hike, it’s cheaper than anywhere else. From 10/11-11/10 I’ve used 8.41gb, that would push me into their XL plan, which is $80 a month. So I’m still winning out and I don’t have to worry about my BS data cap.
Am I the *only* Verizon unlimited data user who isn’t seeing this message in his account? I haven’t gotten an email or anything, either. I was kinda hoping I had slipped in under the radar, until I looked at my last bill and saw a fine-print message saying that unlimited data plan rates are increasing.
It’s kind of silly, actually. I don’t really use that much data (usually 2-3GB/mo), except in rare bursts. If Verizon were to average out my data use over a year and compare what I’m paying now to what I’d be paying on one of the tiered plans, I bet they’d find that they’re getting more money from me now.
And now they’re about to lose an 8-year customer.
Brilliant.
Went ahead and transferred my upgrade to a tiered line, and got an early Christmas gift for my mom (S6). Figured extending my contract 2 years would save $480 and her phone only cost me $100 B-)
Did you do it today? How did it work. I am trying to decide between this and the best buy method?
I did it a couple weeks ago. I had an available upgrade on my UDP line, but my mom’s TDP line didn’t have an upgrade. So to Verizon online I just transferred it to her line, then continued the process of buying the phone and only her line plan was updated (bumped it from 2 to 5 GB). When it was all said and done, my contact end date showed as 2017 either later that day or the next.
So I upgraded my wife’s phone using the BB method. Says my phone will be here on the 19th. Do I have to activate that phone with my wife’s SIM for the contract to renew or will it just renew on its own since I upgraded. Basically, if the phone doesn’t get here until the 19th, will that be to late to get her locked back in for another 2 years to avoid the $20 price increase.
The second you click to complete the order it should send the activation to verizon. You should see your contract extend on the website within a few hours. Then when the phone arrived I took out the sim, destroyed it, and then put my sim in and it updated the phone on the website and now it shows contract and phone are both up to date.
It Just showed up renewed. Thanks for the reply. Looks like she is locked in for another 2 years with UDP.
Can the change the rate prior to you activating the new phone. I am trying to decide if I want to pay for express shipping?
So people that do the Best Buy method after Nov. 15th will see the price jump? My contract ends in 2016.
They are going to lose a lot of long time customers. That’s for sure.
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Side note, it would be nice if you actually listed the ways that still work to upgrade and keep unlimited instead of linking to an article that’s over a year old, which most likely none will work.
I will hang onto my Alltel plan until my last breath. Went to my VZW store the other day, just to look at smartwatches. The manager ask if I got my notice. I told him my plan would not be going up. He insisted that I was wrong. So he then started looking, and sure enough I was right. With my plan, I have four smartphones. My mainline is unlimited, but the other three are capped at 6gb max plan, and 2gb. Since all those lines are ties directly to my main line, apparently it makes it impossible to just mess with one. Plus they are all under contract at various end point points.
It’s just a $20 increase. So you pay $50 per month for unlimited data. Think about it, it’s still the best deal going. I honestly don’t know how anybody could still be on their original 2 year unlimited data plan. I feel like I missed out. My last 2 phones have been bought outright just to have unlimited data.
“In order to upgrade, you need to return your current device to your carrier. Head to a Best Buy store and we’ll help you with everything”
My contract is not up until the middle of next year but tried the best but method and got this. Any ideas? I haven’t bought a phone from Verizon in years and am currently on a 5x…
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So, does method 1 really work (Method 1 – Buy a phone at full retail)? Aren’t you just technically buying a new phone and going month to month so Vz can still add the $20 on top of the $29.99? Also do you really have to activate that new phone?
I was thinking the samething , i’m still getting charged the extra 20 dollars anyway.
Just upgraded and kept unlimited since I’m a Boeing employee woot! I’m good for 2 years.
Sorry for you!
Just did the BB method and it still works
Anybody know of a way to lock into a 2 year that hasn’t been shutdown by vzw?
Transfer upgrade to a tiered line and do it that way definitely works.
Funny, just got my bill, due on the 27th, and it’s $56.96.
Fortunately I just transferred my upgrade to my daughter’s line two weeks ago, so I’m good for two more years. HA! SUCK IT VERIZON!!!
Is it possible to do the BB method to buy a Nexus 6P??
BB isn’t carrying the 6P yet.
I’m probably putting too much thought into this. Yes, I want to keep unlimited, and I currently pay $68/month for 450 minutes and 250 text messages with an employee discount. But in 3 of the last 6 months I’ve used less than 1 GB of data, as I’m rarely not on wi-fi. I had one extraordinary month where I used 21 GB, and another where I used 4.7 GB, but my typical usage is low. I’d rather just stick with what I have, but it seems like I’ll be better off going small on the Verizon Plan, saving money, and adjusting my plan on months I need more data. I don’t like the idea of having to actively monitor my usage and make adjustments to my plan, but I’ll probably save in the long run and now I can more freely leave Verizon.
Try To with that data.
My bill will go up but it will be worth it anyway.
at 49.99 for unlimited and no throttle data. I’m still down. FTW.
yup because for the ~50gb I use a month, that’s only a dollar a gb. not bad haha
This will push the wife and my bill to $160. I was unlimited, she was 4GB. Well, that does it. With my corporate discount, I can get 2 lines on a 12GB bucket for $100. Wife gets more data, my wallet saves $60/mo. Thanks Verizon!
I bought the turbo 2 on my 2 gig line a week ago and put my unlimited SIM in it. Today I moved my upgrade on my unlimited line to my 2 gig line and upgraded that to a max 2.
Now both lines are on a 2 year contact, unlimited is still intact and I won’t have to pay the extra 20 bucks a month for unlimited for another 2 years!
Switched to T-mobile shortly after the announcement, have had no issues and I’m saving money pre-price-hike.
Mostly get LTE everywhere at speeds faster than Verizon, otherwise HSPA at very good speeds. The random time I don’t have signal, there is free wifi. Couldn’t be happier.
“You have 6 days to figure out a way to avoid that increase.”
OR accept the increase gracefully and be thankful Verizon continues to allow unlimited data which for me amounts to paying a little more or a little less than $1/GB.
But negativity gets readers so I understand
🙂
Now we find out who the blowhards are. I don’t want to see one whiny word if you choose to stay with VZW…
I should get my 6p tomorrow. Hello T-Mobile.
I finally took the plunge and switched from my unlimited account, to VZW Allset prepaid. It’s not unlimited data, but I’m on wifi most of the day now so I only average 1.5gigs of data per month. 2gigs of data on Allset is only 45.75 with tax for me…not too shabby. I was worried that verizon would throttle with prepaid, but I’m getting the same speeds (25-30Mbps down, ~15Mbps up) as postpaid here just outside of ATL.
I gave up my VZW UDP a while ago but while I still had it I did use it without caring but didn’t go overboard for the sake of it. Doing everything I wanted only mounted to about 3GB a month but I kept UDP out of principle. If I still had it now and had to eat the $20 every month, I’d say FU Verizon and crank up my usage to spite them. The same goes if my ISP puts on a cap with an upcharge to remain unlimited like Comcast is doing in certain areas. I’ll pay that damn upcharge but you can guarantee my usage is going to skyrocket to make up for it.
To those who are struggling with coverage, a T-Mobile cellspot could help
Oh, and F Verizon!
This makes me feel even better about my decision two years ago to go GSM with the Nexus 5 and switch to Cricket Wireless $55/mo, no contract and Nexus 6P.
same here.. 20 gb is plenty.. now just waiting for them to increase the speeds
Glad I’m on the 6P and have a Project Fi invite at the ready! Either VZW caves to my threats of leaving as a 12-or-so-year-long customer or Fi it is.
I dropped mine last month after finding out. My contract is up in dec and I’m tired of fighting to keep it. My wife and mother in law are on 2gb plans and need more and I use about 12 gb average a month so we just decided the XL 18gb plan and call it a day.
If they had done this from the beginning, I would still have Verizon.
Yep. It is in the bill notice.
To those of you on Vzw and still have unlimited data, i’ve been told by our local rep(Since i work for Target Mobile) that starting Nov. 15 if you sign up for Verizon Edge you WILL NOT lose your unlimited data.
I heard this as well. $20 increase, but unlimited data users will be able to participate in the Device Payment Plan (and keep their UDP) .
That is correct… Essentially the same as current situation… Still paying full price, but you can keep your unlimited.
A Verizon rep told me this as well. I don’t have to pay full price upfront for a new phone. That would have been close to $1200 between my wife and I. Even with the $20 increase the vzw udp is well worth it, if you use at least 10gb of data a month. Nothing else compares to a truly unlimited vzw LTE. UDP FOR LIFE!!!
Ok i’m not 100% on this but you’re paying $40 for your line? On Edge(or Device payment plan) it drops that down to $20 a line. if you’re getting say a Note 5(which is $29 a month) you’re just paying $9 more a month than before for a new phone.
I’ve heard something similar. Costco said that I can upgrade at a subsidized price even, and keep unlimited. Going to see if that’s true this week.
Extended my contract until 2017. $64/mo for 2 more years and a cheap phone.
Still cheaper for me then their edge plans.
Just did the Best Buy method over the weekend. Both of my unlimited lines now expire 11/7/17. Upgraded to two iPhones. Plan on selling them to for a profit since I took advantage of the free LG G4 deal last month.
Did you pay full price for the phones?? And were you under contract expiring soon or expired already? Trying to figure out if I can do this with a expired contract to get back in to contract before the price increase comes…
The iPhones? Nope. Paid $400 for two 6s 16GB to sell. Last week, I got two LG G4s for basically free by opening two new lines, trading in two $10 android phones from Best Buy for $300 each, getting $100 off on Verizon’s website, and then LG had a $200 gift card with purchase.
But now you have to pay for two more lines.. I don’t see the savings?
No, I don’t. The new lines had device payments on them that I quickly cancelled. See http://slickdeals.net/f/8169802-verizon-lg-g4-20-mm-owned-outright as the deal is still available.
From what I understand, when you open a new line now, you must keep a $30 data plan on it.. You used to be able to connect a dumb phone to it and avoid the charge, but that changed recently. How are you not paying for the new lines you opened?
That’s only if you do a 2 year contract, which I did not do. I’ve got a Nationwide plan and opened two lines with 2 GB each. However, rather than do a subsidized price/2 year contract, I did the device payment option so there is no contract. This allows me to cancel the line immediately. Basically, the steps are:
1.) Open a new line and order a G4 (regular price of $552.00)
2.) Verizon currently has a $100 sale by using “LGG4SAVE”
3.) Trade in a smartphone for $300 off purchase price (I’m opening a new line so this is allowed)
4.) This brings the final cost to $152.00 which you do a device payment. Therefore, you only pay taxes out the door.
5.) Then you fill out a LG rebate form (http://www.lgg4octoberpromo.com/default.asp) and get $200 back
6.) Cancel the new line the next day and I walked out with a new G4 and around $48 in your pocket (give or take depending on a few other factors).
Got it.. Thanks for clarifying.
He had two unlimited lines to begin with… so he stays on contract at current prices…so definitely big savings avoiding the price increase on two lines for two years.
I think they force you to keep a data plan on the new lines now @$30 minimum. That wouldn’t cover the savings on the 2 unlimited lines. Unless there is a new way around that too.
I did it with an expired contract that had been expired for over a year and a half. No issues. Should not be a problem. The only difference will be whether your current contract remaining term qualifies you for which phone subsidy/pricing.
I did something similar. a week before you. with the best buy method, but I opted for the Galaxy s6 edge for $49, and had no trouble selling it for $300.
The other options on bb were for a Droid Turbo 1 for $1. So anyone that doesn’t want to hassle with even a $49 phone, extend your contract for 2 years by only spending $1 for a Turbo.
The Best Buy method from this page? http://www.droid-life.com/2014/09/25/upgrade-verizon-keep-unlimited-data/
Yes
Confirmed the Best Buy Method still works wonderfully.
Did it with both mine and my girlfriend’s UDPs. Got both the S6 and S6 Edge for $50 each on sale.
on sale for 50? at best buy?
They were. The week of Halloween. They’ve since gone back up to like $200 I think.
how is it? i hate my s6 touch whiz is just so awful
Agreed, its awful. Feels like a child’s phone. I’m still happy with my G3, so I only got this to lock into UDP and sell the S6. Unfortunately, when trying to put the nano Sim adapter back into the G3, I broke the damn contactors. So I’m stuck with the S6 until I can find someone to microsolder. Lol.
Remember that means you can get a new phone on the 15 tho. And the Turbo 2 has the $300 trade offer for broken screen phones til the 25th.
This means you can go in with a broken phone and get the Turbo 2 for $326 or about $13/month
I just finished convincing my whole family to switch to TMo. I now have 10GB to myself instead of 12 between 4 of us woohooo
And if this is not a message to Verizon’s remaining unlimited data Customer to leave their network and encourage everyone that they know but do the exact same thing ( regardless if they have unlimited data or not) then I don’t know if they’ll ever get the message that Verizon is just playing games with them and their money.
I’m so glad I left Verizon I’m on a much better and faster network and I’m actually with a network with JD Power number one customer service what is a hell lot more than what I could say for Verizon’s pathetic network
Best customer service of the major wireless carriers huh? You realize that like saying the most flavorful pile of dog crap right? Could be worse, but you still have to eat it.
I guess I don’t spend a lot of time on with CS, because my network and devices just work….well. YMMV though, sometimes T-Mo is best in your area.
–VZW UDP
Wow you had the nerve to reply to one of my other posts asking me (and I’m quoting you now) if all I could do was troll or something to that effect and now you’re doing the exact same thing you accuse me of doing but like I said before you have to be very careful before calling me out on anything because this was not a claim on my part I’m quoting JD Power you moron
https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news/jd-power-2015.htm
So it looks like you just ate a big pile of dog crap that you claim I ate but what you seem to forget is that I cover my tracks and don’t open up my mouth without valid facts supporting anything I say.
So you go ahead and continue to hate someone like me who doesn’t share the same exact opinion as you do. You are just a typical childish kid who can’t respect others who don’t share or agree with the same exact opinion as you do.
You obviously have zero life if all you have to do is try to pick on someone like me based on the fact that I don’t share the same exact feelings about anything I post on droid life.
I don’t hate you, you’re my fav! 🙂
I never doubted what you said about JDP rankings, please re-read and focus on understanding. In fact I absolutely believed you. To reiterate my point was that the ranking is relative to the other CS departments in the industry, none of which are “good”. T-Mo just happens to be the best of the worst. If you find that worth bragging about then by all means please do. It’s something.
I just like discussing mobility topics with you dude, but if you think its picking on you then I guess we shouldn’t chat anymore 🙁
Laterz
If you weren’t hating on me then please allow me to apologize.
I can honestly speak from my own personal experiences with all the wireless carriers and T Mobile is by far the best experience I’ve ever had vs any other company in least in terms of wireless carriers. Whenever I get an issue on my bill or I have some sort of issue with service it gets resolved and most of the time they credit my account if a mistake was made even if it was on my part.
If you have unlimited data, you can call VZW and ask them to add the Loyalty 100 Minutes or Text promo, which will put you into a 12 month contract. The CSR I spoke with successfully added the promo. My line which has been out of contract since 2013 now is under contract until 10/27/2016. So no $20 monthly increase until next year.
This!!! I did the same
Ok, I’m gonna try this right now….will let everyone know how it turns out here….
Nope, didn’t work. The Rep I talked to said there are no promos available for my acct. and therefore no way to get under contract. She talked like this wasn’t the first time she’d heard this. So yeah….no go….
Try calling again. I literally did this 2 days ago. This is the specific promo that was added to my account (and put me under contract until 10/27/2016). LOYALTY 100 TEXTS X 12MOS 1YR Active
Did try again, no deal. Guess this is specific to individual accts. I did have the 50min promo on mine so I got 50 more mins of talk for 60 days which is basically worthless to me….
Interesting…
I just called, and couldn’t find the promo.(only a 50 min promo but doesnt extend contract)
Was there a specific number to call? please post if so. I tried *611
Exactly what the Rep I talked to said as well. 50min promo with nothing to do with contract.
the beginning part of the year they called me multiple times to see if i wanted to accept the promo. I regret saying no, but I do remember it was the loyalty department.
anyone know if there is a way to contact the “loyalty” department directly? they will probably have more leverage and understanding than the regular frontline CSRs. i’ve been a customer since around 2003…
When you call and get the voice prompts, say you want to cancel your service.
I used 611 as well. Under the promotions tab in My Account, this is listed: LOYALTY 100 TEXTS X 12MOS 1YR (10/27/15 – 10/27/2016) Active. I would just try calling again and speak with a different rep.
Thanks. I just upgrade via best buy so I don’t think they will offer it to me anymore. But thanks!
Ah, I believe you have to have less than a year remaining on your contract. Or maybe be out of contract, as I was.
Adding the Free International Value Plan will do the same thing. Both my unlimited lines are locked up for 12 months 🙂
I was just on with a rep and she said that it extends out for a year, she then said hold on and told me it only is good until Jan 2016!
Call again and speak with a different rep. Some reps are more helpful than others. It’s definitely a 12 month promo. I’m now under contract until 10/27/2016.
Interadasting, I will definitely try this. My UDP line has been out of contract since Sept this year. I have another line to transfer upgrades to so that’s how I normally extend, but I really don’t want to buy a new phone right now if I don’t have to. If you do this promo though, can you still get a new phone on contract?
My account states that I have an upgrade available (since June 2013).
Cool, thanks. I guess if you got a new phone on contract, it would just extend your contract out 2 years from that date of purchase, rather than adding 2 years to your existing 1 year contract? lol.. would be epic if it added to it.
I tried this, but the rep only added the 100 Minutes Loyalty promotion for 60 days, not 12 months 🙁
I just go off the phone with a rep who added a Free International Value Plan to both my unlimited lines which locks us up for 12 months 🙂
Interesting! I might try that. Not sure if that works for my account though. International dialing is activated, but I don’t think there is any kind of plan since I use Google Voice for international calls.
I did this about a week ago, but for some reason the rep I had back-dated mine to the beginning of my billing cycle. Still, I’m now in a contract until 10/10/16 when I had been out of contract since 2012. I was still seeing those UDP price-rise reminders so I checked again with another VZ rep today just to verify that I shouldn’t see an increase until next October – she said I was good until then too, so it should work (if the promo is available to you).
I dont know…. from reading the details, i could have sworn it said anyone who enters a two year contract would not be charged the $20. report back for sure.
Up my bill, up my usage. It’s that simple.
I already feel a lack of shame for increased usage.
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It does confuse me a bit though… since at least 2009, my unlimited data plan has listed itself at $40 before corporate discount, so I must have been ripped off all these years that people talk about $29.99/month data plans. That said, I haven’t seen the popup on my account yet, so I don’t know what is going on just yet. I have a Project Fi SIM just waiting to be activated though, if it all goes sideways…
Typically it shows up as $40 for the line/plan and then you get a device credit once you’ve fulfilled 2 years of service on that device (or paid full retail)
Maybe… it might be more likely because i’m on a *really* old EVDO tier plan. I checked the billing setup for my parents who have my brother on a single data line that is showing billing at 29.99/month, as everyone else talks about. So, go figure. No hike there yet either.
that’s one way getting rid of abusers 😉 you know who you are those who torrent and do more then in a month then I do on my 150/150 fios connection 😀
I think true unlimited will return again in the distant future once wireless technology reaches its plateau. The carriers will be using it to battle each other by giving customers the option with full retail price for phones or pay a premium with a subsidized phone.
All it takes is one desperate company looking for subscribers in a sea of options and bam, it’s back. It has to happen. This will be the natural results of competition. Thing is it wouldn’t surprise me if there’s backdoor collusion on pricing to avoid this as long as possible. But I personally agree…it has to make a comeback, sooner or later….
My contact end date is 14th. So I figured I go out with a bang (#Fverizon):
Did you just leave movies on all day looping? You are going through ~52 GB per day!
yea makes me wonder how do you watch 0.98TB of google play movies 😀 same movie on replay I guess 😀
uh….did I miss something? Where does it say he’s using that much?
There’s only one thing a man can do with that much data usage. :p
Litterally 2 posts up, where it says he used 0.98 TB from Google Play Movies & YV
Someone mentioned screenshot. I can’t see that at work so that explains it…
Need glasses bro?;)
No, for some reason here at work it’s not showing the screenshot so all I see is what he said, lol….
Download, then remove from device, then download. Usually get ~30GB movies queued up then go to bed. Wake up, repeat.
See, I could see if you had a real use for doing this. But simply downloading, erasing, and re-downloading only screws us who want to keep out unlimited plans, because they see this and it just gives them more reason to further increase the cost or raise prices.
This is probably the best screenshot I’ve ever seen.
T-Mobile is giving us free data for streaming…Verizon is raising it’s prices without free data for streaming.
That’s awesome. You might be able to do the Best Buy Method on the 14th and dodge the increase for another 2 years.
Confirmed on BB method. In fact, not only did I upgrade a UD line, I used a dumb phone line to get another phone as well. There was no data plan added to the dumb line either. Get it while you can!
Of all the phones I’ve seen this year, I think I’m settled on the Moto-XPE; however I am strongly considering using my upgrade on BB and getting the new Droid Maxx 2 for $1.00, then buy the mXPE. I’d have two phones to switch around. I’d rather have the Droid Turbo 2 vs the Maxx 2, but the turbo is $250 w/ upgrade… only 5 days left to decide!!
Best Buy method? Method # 6 of the link Kellex posted? Confirmed it is working?
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F’em, and the horse they rode in on.
You’re the d*ck the ruins it for everyone. Way to go!
Yup
I’m pretty sure greed is what’s ruining it for everyone
How dare Verizon invest the most money into their networks out of any of the carriers, then charge people for it.
And this is coming from a person who left Verizon because the bills were too damn high 😛
http://www.fool.com/investing/dividends-income/2014/10/17/how-verizon-communications-inc-is-spending-17-bill.aspx
Considering that Verizon pays almost no to very little taxes. they have plenty of money to invest in their own network without price gouging their customers.
They only paid Vodafone $120 Billion in cash to get back complete ownership from them. That was after paying ZERO taxes for 4 years. Verizon did not pay taxes for 2014 either, that make 5 Years running, a company making over $120 Billion a year is not paying taxes. And people wonder why the US is in Dept when Corporations making staggering and record breaking profits year after year paying NO Taxes Whatsoever.
People are all about hating 1%ers… until that 1% is purposefully abusing cell phone towers that are shared with everyone around you.
If you really think this is about people abusing the network then you’re completely missing the point. This is about charging you more money for less product.
Isn’t $50 for unlimited data vs $20 for 2GB of data an example of being charged more for more product?
I would sympathize with you if Verizon was a monopoly but they are not. You are free to take your business to any other wireless carrier, so stop acting like they’re abusing their customers.
He pays Verizon for a service…Unlimited Data…. There was no stipulation to… Unlimited Data…. I don’t know about you but when I pay for a service that is unlimited I expect it to be unlimited. I do not expect the company I buy the service from that brings in Billions in profit every year, pays no taxes on that profit and brainwashes people into thinking they are the victims of abuse to decide they want more money for a service that for them has gotten cheaper to provide.
This is purely a plan to try to get people to make snap decisions, freak out and switch to a plan that is “cheaper”… only to find next billing cycle they got reamed. Pay me now or pay me later approaches and bullying tactics on their loyal customers doesn’t make them angels and fairy dust.
aldoe00 – slow clap for you brosef =)
it would be a good deal if we weren’t still being charged the subsidized price, even though the phone has long since been paid for and replaced by purchasing a phone at full retail price. Basically, Verizon is double dipping. And if you decide to buy a phone on their payment plan, then they are triple dipping. If they adjusted your bill to take into account that you are no longer paying for a subsidized device, then the $20 upcharge would be more than fair.
So leave Verizon. Why are people staying with them? I left almost 2 years ago. You have a choice.
I agree this is the second major price increase on unlimited because they kept subsidy in price of the old plan and are now raising it $20 per lines. $80 per month for a 4 person family plan. File a complaint with FCC for deceptive practices. There needs to be more people speaking up.
Verizon has a duopoly where they price fix with AT&T and in some markets they are the only 2 choices.
Or just sell your Verizon UDP line and jump ship..
You can’t do that anymore.
incorrect sir
http://www.rvmobileinternet.com/verizon-unlimited-data-plans-no-longer-transferrable-effective-november-13/
look at the update.. Corp accounts and consumer accounts with an existing unlimited line can AOL VZ UDPs
Nice, but not sure people realize that if you switch to T-Mobile, Verizon is still getting it’s money just a different way. T-Mobile pays Verizon a lease to use it’s 4G network for T-Mobile. So go ahead switch to T-Mobile, it will save you money, but Verizon gets paid either way.
I love this. And I love you.
That is so beautiful! i thought my ~50Gb monthly usage was pushing it but you sir are my hero!
I’m looking to extend my udp. What’s the best way to renew my contract without losing my unlimited data? Best buy method?
The verizonchris method works best 😉
Just message me on rootzwiki under the same username. I can look at your account to see what I can do.
Thank you! I found you and sent a message
Who has done the BBY method within the last month. Can you confirm it works, I’ll pull the trigger today.
Best Buy method? Did it a little less than a month ago. Worked great. I was going to include a screenshot of proof (renewed contract and showing I have unlimited still) but apparently “My Verizon is temporarily unavailable.”
the first dialog box I run into says on the bottom ”
There’s a change from Verizon Wireless for unlimited data plans.
Verizon Wireless has ended this plan option, so when you upgrade you’ll be switched to their most common 2GB plan by default. ”
Im afraid of losing unl
Totally expected. It said that for me too. Just do not put the new SIM card in and you’ll be good.
did you call verizon to cancel “the switch” after
You do not want to call Verizon, they might see it and remove UDP>
Didn’t need to. From what I’ve read, the switch is tied to the sim card they send you. As long as you don’t activate the phone with the new card they send you, you should be good. Just use the one in your current phone. And make sure to either buy a phone that uses the same card, or be prepared to cut your current card.
Just did it last week for the wife, and her contract shows expiring in 2 years on MyVerizon, and I just did it again for myself (5 minutes ago). That will save us $960 over 2 years…and I am netting about $350 each for the iPhones that I just bought and will sell at retail price on Swappa. I say success!
you ignored the message it gave you once you add the phone to cart?
“There’s a change from Verizon Wireless for unlimited data plans.
Verizon Wireless has ended this plan option, so when you upgrade you’ll be switched to their most common 2GB plan by default.”
Yes. Ignore that message and proceed. As long as you NEVER activate the sim that comes with the new phone, you are fine. If you are selling the phone, you HAVE to open it and activate it once with your current sim before you sell it.
ok and on the reciept it doesn’t give you any information about your plan right?
When I helped my brother do it 2-3 weeks ago, the receipt actually said “Keep Existing Plan”. So if your receipt says that, screenshot it and save it, just in case.
You did this online, correct? You talking about the receipt that came with the phone sent to your home, correct? I’m considering doing this but want my T’s crossed and my i’s dotted….
Online is the only way to do it. No I meant the order confirmation receipt. The paper with the phone just has your order details I believe.
Did this method allow you to avoid the $40 “activation/upgrade fee” BS? If so, I’ll go through BB instead of transferring my upgrade to another line like I have normally done to extend my contract.
Thanks!
There’s no fee since you don’t activate the included sim.
Verizon charges it when you order the phone when you buy it through their site. Long before it ships, let alone when you get the phone an SIM card. Which is why I’m asking.
Just did it on Saturday for my two unlimited lines. Phones shipped today and my plans now expire 11/7/17.
#IphoneGang looking forward to get top dollar for this and keeping my $30 data plan.
Just curious, did you still have to pay the BS $40 activation/upgrade fee on top of the phone’s price when you go through BB? If so, I’ll do this instead of transferring my upgrade to another line and going through Verizon like I normally do.
Yes it is billed. But only on 2yrs. Waived on edge (Device Payment)
Thanks. So you were charged the $40 for renewing your contract too then, right? Don’t see how you could do Edge while still renewing your contract.
I did on all four of my UDP lines. For some reason, there was a “Keep Existing Plan” option and that’s the one I picked when going through http://www.bestbuy.com transactions. Two phones were shipped to me and the other two I ended up picking up at BB store. All good, kept UDP and under new contracts for two more years.
If “Keep Existing Plan” option is not available, just go ahead and choose the 2GB plan or whatever and HAVE YOUR PHONE SHIPPED TO YOU. Important: once you receive the phone(s), DO NOT TURN ON! Remove the SIM card and destroy (possibly with fire). Then, insert your own SIM and you should be good, with a new phone and a new 2-year contract.
Keep in mind folks you can sell your UDP on ebay. I got $600 for my wife’s line about a week ago.
I have to say it was very satisfying after being forced to buy unlimited data when all I wanted was push email and then having them try and kill it as soon as it became useful.
I’m pleased to know my UDP will be used by someone who is likely to abuse it.
i thought they don’t allow transfers of liability on ULD plans
Has to be 1) to a business that 2) already has an unlimited plan. Apparently there are buyers, mine went in about 24 hours buy it now, kinda wish I tried to get more.
If you search ebay for “grandfathered verizon unlimited data plan” there should be a handful of listings laying out how it works, copy pasta and you’re off! Just make sure it has right disclaimers, if your buyer is ignorant about the process things could get messy.
Did you have to sell your number too?
Yeah but I had ported the number to google voice a while back. So it was a throwaway number. I suspect the same process is still doable for porting without losing the account.
I’m looking to do the same thing. Were you on or off contract? I just renewed and was hoping that having it locked in for the next two years at the lower price might help command a higher selling price. How fast was the transaction/swap?
Yeah of contract. I had to relist after a deadbeat bidder but it sold in ~24 hrs after that.
You’re still getting the best network, coverage, phones!!!!!! I use 800 dollars of data per month as I use my phone for streaming, internet, at home. They could up it to 100 dollars and I’d still be getting a steal!!!!!
Remember people, they charge 80 dollars per 10 gig of data. A consumer like myself uses 100 plus data per month, 80 x 10 is 800$$$$!!!! So figure it out, only paying 49.99 for unlimited data per month is a steal for truly unlimited data!!!!!
I think the whole gist of the deal is the price per gig is outrageous. They say it’s worth $80 per 10gb but a lot of folks would not pay that amount. I can say my ten year old Hyundai is worth $20k but I’d have to find a fool who would be willing to pay that, too…
Whether it’s worth it or not, they will still charge 80 for 10 gig. For me it’s a no brainer, unless I go with a prepaid plan with unlimited talk and text and 4 gigs of data through US Cellular! That plan is 65 bucks per month, but having to watch my data usage is a pain!!!!
That’s the thing I’m trying to avoid like the plague- watching data useage. I have VZ UDP still and am mulling over options here to avoid this price increase. Wish I had more ideas on what to do…..
On a foot note, since I just signed my contract last April, I still have a year plus to worry about the increase. I’ll more than likely go with pre-paid VZW or US cellular. I’m trying US Cellular right now!
They’re still getting a hell of a deal. They have no reason to complain about the increase.
I was paying $30/month for unlimited hotspot. Now that they’re increasing my bill by $20 and I have a Moto X Pure Edition that doesn’t check if I have hotspot enabled, I went ahead and disabled the hotspot add on which will bring my bill down $10 from before the price hike.
So thanks for the lower bill, Verizon. ??
I pay $65/month for 20 gigs on cricket with a mobile hotspot and 2gb on Verizon for the rare occassion that I’m somewhere cricket doesn’t have a data signal.
Get off Verizon folks!
In total agreement
I just hate that 8mbps speeds…
Nexus 6P + AT&T GoPhone.
Whenever my 6P gets here, I’ll be in the same boat! 4GB of data for $55 isn’t too shabby at all, for my uses anyway.
So I read your article upgrade-verizon-keep-unlimited-data. The question I have, and I think I’m hosed, is I only have 1 line on my account and on the nation wide talk and text plan with unlimited data. How can I go about trying to upgrade? Have you found anything lately that works for my situation? When I call and try to ad a line there are TONS of fees. Sorry for the lame question.
Do you have an upgrade available? Use it through Best Buy. It will warn you that you will lose unlimited. Choose to have it shipped to your house. DO NOT PUT IN THE SIM CARD THEY SEND YOU. Destroy the one they ship you with the phone. Put your current SIM card in the new phone and turn on. Bam.
I did this a month ago and it renewed my contract for two years, and I still have unlimited. I’ve only ever had one line with them. Sold the new phone after activating and made some money.
This won’t lock you in to the new price for two years will it? Someone had said the price increase goes regardless. Don’t know if that’s true or not….
http://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-verizon-how-to-use-a-subsidized-upgrade-and-keep-your-unlimited-data-plan-or-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-nationwide-basic-line a lot to take in.. But good info with very specific instructions
Holy batcrap, that’s a lot to read!! Trying to get through it all, is there a way to keep UDP at the current price and do a subsidized phone and then sell it and keep my current MXPE with the current UDP pricing for two more years…that’s all I want to know….
I would recommend reading the OP through to be safe because there is a lot of good info including how to handle possible hiccups that may occur. I personally went through the process recently with success that resulted in a contract extension until 2017, Unlimited Data retained, a Best Buy gift card and a Note 5 that I sold on Swappa the same day i received it. You basically upgrade your Unlimited line through bestbuy.com, pick your phone of choice, have it shipped to your house (mandatory) , when you get the device take out the pre loaded sim card before powering it on (very important) then just destroy that sim so u cannot accidentally activate it, put the existing sim from your current device into the new phone and use it to send some texts and make some calls. Once the new phone shows up on your Verizon account online as your device, you can take your sim out, put it back in your existing phone, factory reset the new phone and sell it. Best buy is also giving gift cards when you upgrade through them for Verizon so it is an added bonus. Good luck, again I recommend at least reading through the OP of that link to be safe.
That probably wouldn’t work with me as I’m now off contract, correct?? And did you pay full price for the phone??
Yes it will work, I was off contract as well. As long as you have an upgrade available on your UDP line (which you do if you are off contract) then you are good to go. I paid the subsidized price of $249 for the Note 5 , received a Best Buy gift card for $100 as part of the promotion they are doing, and sold the Note 5 for $520 on swappa 10 hours after ups delivered it to me.
No kidding? Dang…I gotta jump on this! Bought it online through BB? And were able to do the promotion?
Yes sir, now I have two more years before I have to put thought into leaving Verizon.
Yeah just buy any phone on Best Buy to upgrade your contract. It will say you will lose your unlimited, but don’t panic. When your phone arrives, open it and remove the sim that is in the phone. Put your current sim in the phone, activate it, then put your current sim back into your old phone. Do NOT at all activate the sim that came with the new phone. It’s pretty easy honestly. Just open the phone, remove sim, activate phone, put your sim back into your phone. Then just sell the phone and make profit!
Is it ok to sell without a sim card? Never used Swappa
Yes, the new phone comes with a pre programmed sim for you. Making sure you do not power up the phone with that new sim is critical in making sure you retain your unlimited data. It was my first time using swappa also, very easy to use.
No, I mean is it ok to sell a phone on Swappa without the sim included?? Like I said, never done it. I know to toss the sim that comes with the Note 5 but that means selling the Note 5 on Swappa without a sim card. Is this normal procedure??
Yes it is
SO, ordering this online at BB the options are: Upgrade my device or Add this device to my acct. I’m guessing Upgrade my device? Even though it says at the bottom this will change my UDP. Just make sure I don’t use the sim comes with, correct?
Yea choose upgrade. That link I sent you has all the info you need along with screenshots
Good to go! Thanks for the help! Got a S6 coming Thurs! Checked my VZ acct and it’s already showing contract extended through Nov 2017 with UDP intact!!
Awesome! Just make sure u follow through with he sim removal. Also make sure you put your existing sim in and use the s6 for a couple hours and check to make sure you Verizon account online shows the s6 as your device. Then you can go back to your mxpe and sell the s6 if you want
^knows what they are talking about. And way more than what I care to type as a response to your other comment. I’m paying exactly what I was before though by doing exactly this. And I used an upgrade. Paid like $200 for an iPhone and sold it on Swappa. I was off contract as well.
in Germany we pay 20€=21$ /2GB. TWWOOO Gigas. So please don’t complain 😉 and in a standard contract w/ free calling, maybe free text and like 300-500MB for 10€=10$ and than they are slowing you down af
I was on EE prepaid in the UK and it rocked. The prices are great imho. Even under contract the prices seem great. Not to mention getting 80 Mbps down on 4G (LTE here in the US) was pretty awesome.
Alltel grand-fathered in….no price increase for me
I wonder when they will find a way around that? I hope they never ever do but knowing Big Red they will figure out some way.
Same situation for me. I don’t see a pop-up.
So what happens if my unlimited line is out of contract but my wife’s 2GB line on the shared minutes plan is not? Are we still under contract? I do not get a notification from the Verizon website.
Every man for themselves!!!!
I’m upgrade eligible on my Unlimited line. Is there any way to get a phone at a subsidized cost anymore through Verizon?
Anyone try the Device Payment route and wete you able to keep your unltd data?
I think that kicks in after Nov 15th.
Was in lengthy discussion with a Verizon rep trying to lower my plans cost with this immenent increase looming and she said hang on, December is coming and there will be holiday deals. I asked is this for phones or service. She said service. I said I have UDP, will this apply to me? She said yes it will apply to me….take that as you will…..
Does anyone know a thing about this? She wouldn’t be specific but I’d love to know if there’s some holiday deal allowable for UDP’s that reduce the price of service. Because I am seriously itching to get off VZW and go cheaper elsewhere if possible….
Probably B.S. to get you not to do the loophole to get into a contract. I would not trust that at all.
Just talked to another rep and she said she doesn’t know of any service deals coming. She said it will probably be phone related. So yeah….all bs to keep me evidently….
According to that, it says the increase will occur if you enter into a new contract just like when your contract ends.
Brings my bill to 95 a month. Will go to fi and pay 40 for 2gb (hopefully :()
I already left them because of this. Love how the reps call and all like “we see you recently switched carriers and wanted to see if we could.. blah blah blah” Verizon, you made it clear you dont want me as a customer. WHY ON EARTH would I stay with you?
I’m paying $220/month for 2 lines – 1 unlimited and the other 2 gb. This is ridiculous. Now it’s going to be $240. I almost want them to just put me out of my misery and end unlimited so I can leave and pay $100 somewhere else. But their superior coverage is like a ball and chain.
How are you paying that much on 2 lines? I’m paying $202 per month with 2 lines, 2 edge agreements and 30 gigs of data.
Honestly I don’t know. If I try to change anything on my plan unlimited gets booted. I’m still on some old school plan called Nationwide TLK&TXT Share. I have to pay $30/month for text messages.
I’m sorry, that’s awful. How much data do you go through per month? If it’s not too much it may almost make more sense to switch and pay less per month. Then in those rare occasions that you go over you’ve already saved enough to cover the overage fees.
Why do you got to be an a**hole?
Hahaha, what? How am I being a a**hole? I’m legitimately sorry for them and am actively looking at alternatives for them to save money. Thanks for being constructive Guest!
I really only use about 10 gigs on my unlimited, but on the occasion that I travel I use tethering and it escalates quickly. I’m really only holding onto unlimited for the tethering while traveling. I have considered giving it up, but I just can’t bring myself to do it.
Well you can get the 18GB XXL plan for $100 plus $20 for each line so that would be $140 before taxes and fees. Would be a lot cheaper than what you are paying now.
450 minutes?
Was on 1400, moved down to 700 and now I can’t add friends and family.
I’m in the same boat. We have 5 lines, 4 with 2GB and mine with unlimited data. 1400 minutes. Verizon couldn’t do anything to lower my bill at all.
I’m using 30gb/month average and also have the 450mins/1000 text package. Tried to reduce both of those by chat to no avail. Of course there’s ‘nothing available’ that would be cheaper-surprise surprise. I don’t need 450 talk mins but that’s as low as they go…they get ya coming and going….
I’m paying that much for 4lines with unlimited now. Only two lines will be out of contract next august tho
I’m getting royally screwed somehow then. I think it’s this old plan that I can’t leave or else I’ll lose unlimited
At that price, it’s not even worth it anymore. We were well under $200 (like $140ish) when I had they same setup as you. You need to analyze your bill.
Ouch, I thought mine was bad for 2 unlimited lines at $185/month. I am definitely going to be switching to something before next year. I am still holding out for some good Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals. I will probably have to eat 1 or 2 more jacked up payments before I switch.
Right now the holiday deals coming are the ONLY reason I’m sticking it out with Verizon. The Rep I talked to said there will be deals this December useable for UDP service. Now she may be talking out her ….. to try to keep me, don’t know. Wish I did. I’m looking everywhere for options…
I’m paying $150 for two unlimited lines.
What’s the name of your plan? I have to get to the bottom of this. I’ve tried calling to reduce my cost, but it always ends with me having to give up unlimited.
NATIONWIDE TLK&TXT SHARE 1400
And I really COULD be paying less if I chose to, because I have asurion insurance on both lines. It’s $8 on one & $9 on the other. Don’t know why it’s different. I got a $20 discount on each line as a promotion for taking the plan. I lose the discount if I ever change my plan (I’m basically losing it now with this increase :/ ) Plus I get a 20% government discount for working for the post office.
I have the exact plan and discounts with 2 lines. Currently paying $120 a month for unlimited data on both lines. It will go up to $160. Might still be worth it, as we average 12 GB a month, and more when I travel for work and tether (hotel wifi sucks).
There is a post up top about a Verizon loyalty discount 100 that gives you an extra 100 min for 1yr. But the “best” part about it is it puts you under contract for a yr, so you’ll avoid the $20 increase. I have to see if it technically changes our plan though.
I had the SAME discount on two lines with the 1400 TT plan. After my wife died, I dropped her line but kept the 1400 minutes , so I kept the $20 discount on the remaining line.
Then I decided I only needed 700 minutes. I called four separate times and verifies I would NOT lose my $20 discount and had every CSR notate that in my account. I called a fifth time, again received confirmation I would not lose my discount by switching to 700 minutes, so I switched. And lost my $20 discount.
I have been calling and fighting with Verizon every month for the last eight months trying to get the discount reinstated. Even went back up to 1400 minutes. Every CSR says they see the notes in my account, but its such an old discount they can’t put it back on my account.
Last I heard it was going to corporate to be reinstated. They had been manually giving me a $20 per month credit, but that ended a couple months ago and I never got my discount back. I finally just gave up on it, but now with this extra $20 pee month, I’m leaving Verizon. T-Mobile’s coverage has improved DRAMATICALLY over the last year, and I’ve been having great luck with it. I suspended my Verizon account for 90 days to try out T-Mobile so I don’t risk losing my unlimited Verizon if T-Mo doesn’t work for me, but I think I’m going to make the jump. Keep unlimited data, no roaming in Canada, and excellent coverage in Oklahoma, Missouri, and Texas (where I live and travel regularly), and I can cut my bill in half. Not to mention being able to use unlocked phones!
Long story short, if you lose that $20 discount you WON’T get it back. But check out TMo in your area. They have really improved a lot in the last year. You may be surprised.
Fortunately they made it CLEAR to me when I got it, that if I EVER switched plans I would lose my discount. But you’re RIGHT, if I lose that discount, bye bye Verizon.
That’s why I called and asked several times before making the change. They said I’d be fine, because I wasn’t changing my plan, just the number of minutes. It was still the talk and text share plan.
So now I’m paying almost as much for ONE line as I was paying last year for TWO lines. Last year with two lines, both unlimited for $145, it wasn’t worth switching to TMo, which would have been the same price. Now I’m paying $125 for one unlimited line (soon to be $145 after the price increase) compared to $80 for unlimited everything in TMo.
Plus, my GF can add me to her unlimited plan for $40, so I could be saving $100 per month. It’s a no brainer at this point.
Yeah, I’m on the 1400 min plan and have that $20 promo discount on it as well. Wife and I are $135/month for two UDP lines on the 1400 min/month plan. From what I can see I won’t be saving much or any at all going to TMo, so I’m trying to keep this plan for as long as possible. My line is month to month right now, so I think I’m going to buy a new iPhone on contract (I have a 3rd 2GB line that my mom uses and pays for, I transfer upgrades to that) and sell that towards a Nexus 6P just so I can have the $30/month rate for the next two years.
I’m on the exact same plan and promo with it. It’s pretty nice and hasn’t been worth switching to Tmo while I still have it so far. It’s odd you get a 20% government discount though while I only get a 15% government discount for being military. Would think they’d be the same.
Yea, that is weird. Verizon actually offers the casino I work at part-time a 23% discount. I just haven’t gone through the process of switching to that discount yet.
I’m also paying $220 starting this month. I have two lines under month to month and one under 2 year contract (with UDP)
One of the month to month is with 2gb data and another one is a dumb phone without data. All under shared 700 min plan.
So, if you don’t have any month to month, yet you are paying $220/mo., you are overpaying $60/mo. at the minimum.
I am definitely overpaying, but I just don’t know how I can reduce it. My unlimited line is month-to-month, the 2gb is under contract. If I try to change anything they automatically take away unlimited. My only options are to stay as is or move to the Verizon Plan when I go to “manage plan.”
Are you doing that much sexting, I meant texting :p, that you pay 30/mo.?
I transferred my UDP upgrade to my wifes phone line and bought her a new iPhone. It extended my UDP contract out two years which should keep me from getting the price increase.
Yeah you need to change your plan. Granted I have a 20% discount from work but my wife’s line and my line with 6GB shared is $110 a month, and that includes paying $30 a month for my Note 4.
I can’t change my plan without losing unlimited. I’m stuck here until they end unlimited once and for all.
I’m saying why is unlimited so important to you when you have to pay so much more for it, especially when you could pay less for the amount of data that you use.
For some people; Hanging onto Unlimited has become a hobby. Maintain it at all costs!
In other news: People sometimes cut off their own noses to spite their face.
**Queue all the people saying it’s the only way they can afford it because they need 100GB a month.
3 unlimited and 2 – 2bg plans, $340 a month. Thinking about $400 makes me sick.
Ouch! yeah that’s outrageous.
Think of the sweet car you can get with that much money instead
That’s insane, are you on a really high minute plan on your line or something? Wife and I are on 2 UDP lines, 1400 mins for $135/month. I get a 15% discount through work and got on a promo for $20 off the 1400 min plan back when they still offered it though.
I’m paying 240 for three lines all with unlimited!
Do you average 18gbs or less? There’s new plans, just look into them to save money, simple.
Something is bad wrong with your bill, like severely wrong. I was never above $150, closer to $140 when I had 1 unlimited and 1 two gb.
No contract means you have no agreement with them. They can change it to whatever they want.
Knowing Verizon…I’m surprised they didn’t just do this sooner.
Contract means they can change it to whatever they want. They just have to give you some notice and allow you out of the ETF. You are using their towers, their computers, their infrastructure.
Interesting. I guess not much point in a contract then.
They did. The first price “hike” was when they cut us off from upgrading under contract, basically eating that $20-25/month subsidy into the data plan instead of a phone. This is the second one, technically, unless we have a way to use a loophole.
The Red Empire!
I don’t see anything wrong with this… Eat it Unlimited folks. Yes I’m jealous. So Eat it.
I’ve used 21 gigs this period that ends in a few weeks. I’ve been traveling a ton so… f hotel Wifi.
I have 20GB with cricket I’ve been over it twice by trying. I can’t see what you’re doing that’s eating that much data.
I usually only use about 3-5 gigs in a month. Downloading the Nexus 6P factory images took around a gig of that. Streaming on the phone takes a lot of bandwidth too.
I do it with tethering when I’m away on trips for work and vacation.
My thoughts exactly! We all had our run with unlimited but for one reason or another lost it. Now you get to taste what we’ve had for some time now, paying more for less.
I don’t mind paying more when it comes time. I’ll gladly take unlimited data over 6GB/month for $60-$70 (minutes and text included)
Since that reason solely has to do with you upgrading your phone you gain no sympathy from this unlimited user lol
This this and this.
Well enjoy the $20 more per month and full price, if you wanted new phones, you spent over the last few years! ^_^
Enjoy the device payment/monthly plans
It’s not really that much better than a standard contract
More expensive IIRC as you don’t have a phone that you can sell on Swappa afterwards. I believe you have to trade in your current device when you upgradE?
Thanks to Swappa and some intelligent shopping on Craigslist, Ive more than saved on new phones and kept my unlimited without being taken advantage of by Big Red. I haven’t paid full price for a phone since the OG Moto X. And even that was a damn good discount compared to other flagships.
I legitimately am happy that you were able to get good prices on phones. My point had been that they were likely used no? You have likely saved more than me too, although Verizon did mess up on one edge agreement in my favor and I got the phone for $200 then sold it for $300 on Swappa, this was actually I tried to get them to fix it 3 or 4 times to get an accurate edge agreement document but they couldn’t fix it so I gave up and got the phone discounted
The phones I purchased from Swappa weren’t used. Though there certainly are used phones there. Not that, that should be a deterrent to you not to use Swappa. I have bought used from Craigslist though. I use well over 75 GBs a month, so giving up my UD just isn’t an option.
Where they current gen or phones released months back? I may look more closely. I’ve bought new and used devices off of Amazon and Swappa in the past and it’s been hit or miss. That was the reason I ended up going with the Edge plan years ago because I didn’t want to risk getting an awful used device or pay full retail for an older device. Plus the most I’ve ever used is 29 GB so my current plan worked well and we were able to get new devices on release.
It depends on how long you’re willing to wait for the prices to get cheaper. I got a new Moto X (2014) about two months after it came out. Hadd to deal with the color scheme the seller choose from Motomaker,but it was a small price to pay.
Got a N6 for $300 about 6 months after it released.
Swappa is hit or miss depending on your needs (storage size, color, carrier, etc.), but I’ve never been disappointed with the experience. Add to the fact that when I get a newer phone from there, I can post the old one I’m replacing to help offset the cost, and it’s a solid option without paying full price plus tax on a new device.
actually dickwad with this Increase Verizon is allowing us to use their payment plans for phones
Which is kind of nice but you figure it is $240 more over 2 years without taxes in service and I think you have to trade in a phone when you upgrade for the DPP, no?
You don’t trade in the device anymore. They got rid of those plans last year. Now you just buy it at full price but pay over the course of 2 years. So essentially your financing a phone at 0% interest.
Wow, OK well I’m happy for you. I guess I really should have put in the /s at the end of my comment. Heaven forbid you still get a better deal than us and lord it over us non-unlimited users. Just keep your cold dead hands to yourself.
So they are increasing the cost of the UDP and allowing those users to make monthly payments to buy new phones now, spending even more money they otherwise would have spent buying the phone elsewhere, and that is considered a good deal?
not a great deal but if someone wants to upgrade to another phone after paying FR for one they can.
Can you show me how I can get a Nexus 6P at a subsidized cost from Verizon? Also you do realize Edge is garbage and costs the consumer more in the long run, right?
I can’t show you how to get a subsidized cost from Verizon since they’re no longer offered. I guess you should quickly use one of the methods Kellen mentioned above to get another 2 year agreement without losing your unlimited. I do realize edge is crap, I’ve been paying it for years now and when it only required 50% of the device to be paid for it wasn’t as bad of a deal as it later became.
Buy iPhone on contract. Sell/trade iPhone towards 6P. Exactly what I’m doing.
Are you still with Verizon?
Are you still paying for good coverage?
Do you think folks with unlimited data aten’t being taken advantage of?
I am still with Verizon.
I am still paying for my preferred coverage.
I don’t think unlimited users are being taken advantage of because they’re still paying less than me and I use much less data than many unlimited users I’ve seen brag here about the 100+ gigs they regularly use.
If you’re out of contract you risk the provider changing the terms of the agreement. I didn’t wish for unlimited users to pay more, but I find it interesting that people are complaining over paying an extra $20 for unlimited. If they were in a similar position as me right now paying an additional $20 per month would only give them an extra ~6-10 gigs, I’m paying $150 right now for 30 gigs on a plan that’s no longer offered but that’s beyond the XXL plan so I don’t really know the cost per GB but $20 for me wouldn’t go a long way. I’m not saying the complaining isn’t warranted, but looking at the bigger picture the options are to stay with verizon and pay a bit more if the coverage is good, leave verizon and pay less or the same for worse, the same, or better coverage depending on where you live. $50 a month for data is still a great deal especially since that only gets you like 3 gigs of data on their current plans.
But $50 a month for data isn’t a great deal if you are used to $30 a month getting you unlimited.
Of course, it’s almost doubled. But it’s still the best available deal for unlimited on Verizon and when considering many people have good or better coverage with Verizon it’s a much better deal than the unlimited data offered by competitors. I’m not happy this happened, my commend was in jest I just think it’s interesting now with so many people complaining about $20.
I can understand why they are complaining about $20. It’s not just $20, it’s $240 a year. In a different light, if you usually paid $3 for your morning cup of coffee and all of a sudden your coffee provider stated they were going to charge you $5 for the same exact cup of coffee, would you complain or think “By gum, a $2 dollar increase to what I used to pay for the same exact cup of coffee is a great deal!”
Don’t get me wrong, I’m well aware of the frustration, and I’m not trying to say that people shouldn’t be complaining. I just think this entire thing is interesting to watch from an ‘outsiders’ perspective. The price of unlimited on verizon has been ‘artificially suppressed’ in the sense that these users were not paying the proper amount for the value they received. Where I live Verizon then AT&T are far ahead of Tmobile and Sprint however there is no equivalent to pay $50 per month for unlimited data with the coverage you’ll get on Verizon. I’m not saying this is a ‘better’ or even a ‘good’ deal but when you’ve been receiving something at a lower than true value I’m more likely to be thankful for what I got than to complain about a still, comparatively speaking, good deal. It’s not like they are charging unlimited users $100+ per month, then they are no longer getting a significantly better deal than the competitors.
By your logic it would actually be that there was a surplus of coffee and you’ve only been paying $2 per cup but now that the surplus is gone you have to pay the ‘fair market’ value for coffee with is $5 a cup. It doesn’t make you happy but you then decide to stop drinking that brand of coffee or you get your coffee from someplace else that’s cheaper and maybe better.
@El_Big_CHRIS:disqus replied to me and is paying $202 for 4 lines on unlimited so they’re definitely getting a better deal than me.
I would turn it the other way around and say what makes unlimited worth darned near $100/month?? Is this “value”?? Hell no it ain’t! It’s ridiculous for a frigging cell phone simply wanting to use data!
Actually, when you compare that price to the competition you’d still get good value.
Verizon: if $100 – Truly Unlimited
AT&T: $100 – 15 GB
TMobile: $80 – ‘unlimited’ but after 23 GB then move you to de-prioritize (so throttling)
Sprint: $70 – ‘unlimited’ but put onto 2g after 3 GB
Yes I realize the TMobile & Sprint prices also include other services but it’s the closest I have for comparisons sake.
att raised it to like 21gb on unlimited so called 😀
Oh really? I didn’t see that, I just used their website. They stopped offering their unlimited plan for new users though didn’t they? They’re the only other provider that I would consider in my area and the only reason we’ve stuck with Verizon was the service but AT&T made a lot of progress so now it was just a matter of cost and our 30 GB was significantly cheaper than AT&T’s similar plans.
Yea ofc but those that had it. Was raised to 21gb.
TMobile is $80 for unlimited web, talk and text……including 7Gb hotspot. After this price hike, Verizon will be $120 for unlimited web, talk and only 1000 text, you have to pay another $10 for unlimited text. That’s about $130 compared to TMobile’s $80 and it doesn’t even included hotspot.
Good to know. Honestly with their new Binge On it’s getting tempting to make the switch. After 23 GB don’t they de-prioritize your connection on congested towers though?
I actually contacted them yesterday to see how much it would cost to get a standalone data contract for a tablet so my son could watch SD netflix and hulu when on car trips. But you need to get the 3 GB plan or higher so with taxes etc it’s over $50 per month. I’ll probably just buy a used tablet and add a line to my Verizon contract instead of constantly using hotspot from one of our phones.
But that is the problem. You are looking at prices compared to what others are paying for competing coffee. I’m going by the price of coffee you are paying in relation to the cost you are paying now, vs a price hike. If you all of a sudden had to pay 66% more for something you would complain.
If you want to get into the fair market value of things, this move still doesn’t make sense. If you take into consideration the actual cost of a wireless carrier to transmit your data, you would be looking at a cost of roughly 18 cents per GB of data used. Granted, this doesn’t take into consideration the cost of buying the infrastructure or buying the licensing for the wireless bands, just the cost that a carrier currently has to pay to provide you a GB of data. So if a person uses 10 GB of data, it costs each carrier roughly $1.80 to provide that data. If they use 100 GB of data, it costs roughly $18. Granted, they have phone calls and texts and other messaging which costs money too, but for a plan that had unlimited data, those are separate costs and aren’t included. You don’t get unlimited talk and text with an UDP. The only reason Verizon is charging the UDP users more for the same exact plan is because they are trying to make more money, not because of fair market value. It’s because if they have an UDP user that usually uses 6GB of data, but one month out of the year they use 10GB of data, they want to charge for that overage to get more money, not just let them have it. If they wanted to get rid of the UDP users that are actively using up too much data (abusing the plan) that they lose money on an UDP plan, they could just kick in the clause that they have on all their contracts that state they can kick a users off their network for behavior that hinders the reliability of their network. Those users are going to pay the added $20 a month. It’s the UDP users that use under 200GB a month that are really getting shafted as it doesn’t cost Verizon more than they are charging to provide the connection, but Verizon just wants to make more money.
I’ve never said people shouldn’t be complaining but let’s be honest. Those that still have UDP have had to jump through numerous hoops for years now to retain their plan if they also wanted to purchase a phone at a subsidized price. It has been known for years that these plans were either going to change or to go away, so count your blessings that they didn’t just terminate the UDP all together.
I understand what you’ve been saying about people complaining when things in their world change and this would be true if one someone were living under a rock and all of the sudden out of the blue had to pay more. But it’s more that there was a hole that someone could look at from under their rock looking towards a billboard saying ‘Changes are Coming Soon!’
It’s blatantly obvious that Verizon is just doing this to make more money. Again, I’ve never said I agree with them for doing this but they did and now the price is going up.
Maybe I just see the situation through a different filter since I’ve been off of UDP for years now, but I think that rather than complaining I’d be thankful for the hundreds of dollars I’d already saved over the years and hundreds more I’d continue to save going forward by still paying less on a competitors plan.
You just can’t grasp the idea, can you?
A $2 increase on a $3 cup of coffee is a 66% increase for the SAME EXACT THING, and your argument is “well, it still tastes good, right?”
I think you meant to reply to someone else.
I agree totally. I am staying with VZW and the Unlimited plan, and not bothered at all buy paying $20 more. It’s still better than having it taken away completely.
Nope.
I live in a major city I was happy with T-Mobile but I’m trying Project Fi right now (happy with this too).
No, I think at this point people with unlimited data are ‘power users’ and probably get their moneys worth.
I get unlimited without having to take out a mortgage every year or deal with Verizon’s bossiness. T-Mobile has been awesome.
Not true unlimited, though, as they cap the 4g speeds around 20gb and then it becomes dog slow till the end of the month….
I experienced this after about 28GB this month. My LTE slowed to .075 Mbps in congested areas. I just switch my N6 to 3G (which is actually HSPA), and my speeds jumped back up to 10-15 Mbps, which is plenty fast for me. Apparently they only “deprioritized” LTE traffic, not HSPA or 3G traffic.
Exactly, I was eating over 800 dollars of data from VZW. I use to save money by not having to pay for internet at home. Now it’s getting to the point where I am saving money by having a 4 gig pre-paid and having cable internet at home. I’m currently experimenting with US Cells pre-paid data plan, unlimited talk, text, 4 gigs of data for 65 per month. Me and my ole lady can get 50 mbps service with mediacom for 39 per month so I’ll be paying 85 for phone and internet where I pay 120 now with VZW!!!!! We’ll see, kinda still missing my unlimited data though lol
I use about 40-60gb per month, so I am still enjoying my UDP,even with the $20 bump.
I finally gave up and went to T-mobile
Me too
I’m thinking of doing the same very soon. I kept VZW because I knew I could get coverage when traveling to visit family, but then the other day I realized I could get better coverage at home where I am 99% of the time with T-mobile. So suck it VZW. Stupid me, but I did enjoy having the unlimited data.
Unlimited everything is only $80 with TMo so you’re not giving up anything.
If t-mobile could get just a bit better coverage I’d be all over it despite having unlimited data.
If you haven’t checked it lately, you might want to do so again. I was shocked when I saw that it now had coverage in rural TN where my family lives. I dunno how good the coverage is but it’s showing 4G. I’ll be finding out soon enough.
tmobiles coverage map is dead wrong around here says 4g but only thing we get is 2g outside of the bigger towns
Same. Their map is way too liberal in their 4G paint. Their signal is horrible around me outside of the center of one town.
yea, i’ll be curious to see how good it is there. but I live a few miles from downtown ATL and am mostly there. So poor reception in TN a few times a year isn’t going to kill me.
False advertising!!!!!!!! T-mobile suuucks!!! The only way to go is VZW or US Cellular!!!!! Depending on where you are!!!!
Compelling arguement, full of facts. Thank you for presenting your opinion in such a descriptive and informative way.
Whatever I can do to help lol
Very random question. Were you ever helped by verizonchris to upgrade your plan and keep unlimited data?
Lol, in my area this is very true. ATT isn’t the worst either. Verizon by a mile, then US Cellular, ATT. Then way down is Sprint. T-Mobile isn’t even viable.
Needs moar exclamation points!!!¡!!!!
says a person who has never used tmobile in his life
sounds like someone has been drinking too much of Verizon’s punch.
You probably don’t have a phone capable of band 12 or 2.
Band 12 I have but no band 12 in this area.
Unfortunately I do spend time outside of major cities and it is nice to have LTE when I am in the middle of Montana. The increased cost of service is worth it. If only T-mobile had more agreements with AT&T.
The agreements they have with CCA will meet or exceed the roaming agreement with AT&T, and the benefit is that CCA members get access to each others network as if they are not roaming at all, as if it is native coverage – this is a benefit since T-Mobile limits roaming on AT&T, but not CCA network partners. So weigh the pros and cons.
There coverage maps are wrong. A group of us visit an area about an hour west of Chicago. The T-Mobile maps says LTE coverage. Put it this way, the person in our group with T-Mobile gets no coverage even while in town. I will stick with Verizon.
I am sure they have been expanding, but there are many areas that are really bad. I have a 60 mile commute each way right on i-80. We have 2 people on my van that were thrilled when we got a VZW hotspot for free for 1 month, as they could make calls and get text messages for more than 1/4 of the trip. The trip is completely on I-80, which is a main thorough fair across the country. If they cannot even get voice service on I80 in this day, it is scary.
The coverage differences are less than people think they are IMO…I can count on one hand the number of times it’s caused me problems. And with Wifi calling becoming standard now, I am even less concerned. Verizon won’t be able to coast on the “but OMG coverage!” excuse forever.
Especially with their sh**ty VoLTE….
You should definitely look again. Her in Oklahoma, I tried them last year and you could only get signal in the OKC and Tulsa metro areas. Now the whole state is covered with 4G LTE. I suspended my Verizon account for 90 days (so I don’t have to pay for it) and am testing T-Mobile out right now. Verizon had better coverage in the northern central part of the country, but T-Mobile is GREAT everywhere else. And I am a die hard unlimited data Verizon guy.
You suspended it? How does one ‘suspend’ their account and keep UDP??? I’d love to do this to try someone else out before I decide to keep/get rid of VZW. Want to test out T-Mo without paying double.
Just go to the My Verizon webpage and under device click the option to suspend without paying. That suspends your service and basically freezes it. You can’t use it, but you’re not paying a monthly fee. There’s an option to suspend with paying, which still suspends the service but you continue to pay the monthly fees, so your contract continues to run.
When you’re ready to restart it, just click reactivate and your service starts back up where you left off.
thats what im currently doing as well. fyi you can suspend up to 180 days. im currently on my 4th month. im also a die hard verizon guy, i just dont like the fact that youre throttled after 22gb’s, im also loving the phone selection with gsm carriers…. i see it as, you get some you lose some type of deal for me…. its phones galore and save money or great service and limited devices….
Are you referring to T-Mobile throttling? From what I read, you’re just deprioritized. Not necessarily throttled. I’m at 30 GB this month already, and my LTE speed slows down in congested areas. However if I switch to 3G, my speeds jump back up to 10-15 Mbps, even in the congested areas. Or if i stay on LTE but move to a less congested area, my speeds return to normal. So I don’t feel throttled at all.
Make sure to sell your udp before you switch! No point in giving it up for free when people are still willing to pay for your udp
I’m not sure where you live but in the area where I live T Mobile actually has better coverage than AT&T and Verizon and I know this for a fact because I used to have Verizon and I know many people who have AT&T. I get full service and many more places where on Verizon and AT&T I’m lucky to get one or two bars of service in on GSM on AT&T 1 bar service is pretty much useless especially if you’re trying to make a phone call.
**says T Mobile has better coverage in the area where he lives**
**doesn’t reveal where he lives**
well I live in South Florida and Tmo kills Verizon in speed with comparable coverage
I always thought I might regret leaving Verizon after 10 years being with them…but I never have. It’s been about 3 years now. One of the best decisions I ever made. I wish I could do the same thing with cable providers.
Yep..I was in the same boat..finally switched to ATT ..saving a ton of dough !
We switch to T-mobile last month because of this too. I’m very happy with T-mobile service and I also feel a bit stupid because we were paying so much for Verizon and now we have 8 lines in T-mobile and it’s just for $320 is awesome and all lines with new iPhones 6s and a Galaxy Note 5. I live in Florida so coverage is perfect here.
Consider the 10gb for all it would be almost $100 cheaper per month
I gave up on Verizon, but sadly came back, even though the bill was 1/3 the cost. It’s been over a year now and am thinking about trying T-mobile again, maybe the band 12 will make a difference in the home and at work where service was terrible, and wifi calling wasn’t much better.
I would if I had 700Mhz in my area, but since I don’t, it’s just not good enough yet to switch.
as soon as my 6P gets here tomorrow, I’m done with them. Tmobile in the greater Los Angeles area here I come.
When with Band 12, T-Mobile in greater Los Angeles had trouble penetrating buildings. And Band 12 isn’t very fast to boot.
Neither is Verizon’s band 13. It’s not for speed, obviously. And that’s why both carriers use AWS band 4.
I’ve gotten no joke.. 72mbps down, 37mbps up in LA Tmobile.. VZ never even got close to that!
I’m paying $15 less for Verizon unlimited than T-Mobile. No way will I pay more for less.
Well unless you realize that you Generally don’t go over 10gb a month and have a family plan with 4 lines or more. The 10gb plan with”stashing” unused data is actually pretty good at $30 a line. Especially if you travel over seas and can use the unlimited wifi calling and unlimited 3g data through out most of Europe. Then t mobile makes ALot more sense
i have been debating that. their coverage here in southeast PA has gotten 1000 times better. Only problem, i’d still be paying close to the same if I switched to T-mobile as compared to my unlimited data account, which I split with my brother who has unlimited too. I’d see maybe like $10-25 savings at most. not worth it for me
Get 2 more people in that line and the 10gb for all with stash makes sense
Yup hopefully you sold your udp line instead of just giving it up.
tmobile coverage is a bit spotty although 1000% better in my new home compared to my last home that was dead for tmobile and great for Verizon.
But by spotty i mean it’ll be dead in an area that Verizon worked before but i drive 1 mile down the road and it’s 25mpbs down and up. Makes no sense. Either way I’m saving $350 a month!!! That’s a freaking lease payment on a nice car. So I’m fine with having service only 97% of the time compared to 99% with Verizon. I could do with using phone browsing anyway. Atleast phone calls still work 99% of the time and seems equal to Verizon (although still better coverage in my house plus wifi calling local and free over seas!)
I was aware of this. In speaking with a customer service rep a few days ago (so take that for what it’s worth…little), I was told a few things:
– Yes, upgrades could be again used without torpedoing UDP
– Line access fees for legacy plans would decrease, so that phone payment plan + line access would roughly equal the old line access fee.
– International data roaming in VZW could roughly achieve parity with other data plans like TMob and Fi (i.e., no cost for data roaming, just the cost of data). It’s unclear if this, or how this, might apply to UDP.
Take that for what it’s worth.
I think the upgrades are essentially the verizon edge program which still isn’t that great of a deal.
Interesting thanks
Who knows…since I’ve been on UDP, I have paid zero attention to what Edge even is, but if the line access is decreased, then the invisible phone subsidy I pay every month for a phone I don’t have goes away. That’s the big key.
I agree……need to find out more about this.
I just logged in and saw the notice and saw the change to my legacy plan. It looks weird and seems like it lowers my bill (not including the UDP change) a bit.
Congrats Big Red – you win the carrier I hate the most award for today and I don’t even use you!
Ahhh 2 more years of unlimited at $29.99… After that time to decrease my minutes to offset the $20 increase and use Google Voice via data for most calls.
Woot
How?
Search on google and you shall find. It does come with risks of losing unlimited though. I nearly just ate the cost of the increase to keep unlimited.
Dang son
Keep that on the down low
any links? cant find
See above someone posted it.
http://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-verizon-how-to-use-a-subsidized-upgrade-and-keep-your-unlimited-data-plan-or-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-nationwide-basic-line
is this is what u were talking about?
i thought u meant 30 a month for plan, not upgrading early