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Samsung Galaxy S8 / S8+ Review

Given the misfortune Samsung went through last year with the Galaxy Note 7, the company undoubtedly needed to bring its A-game for 2017. Intro the Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+, the company’s latest flagships to help consumers forget that it accidentally shipped out devices that could set a house ablaze and not regular ol’ smartphones.

Instead of a Edge variant like last year, we’ve got two identical devices, with exception to the battery size and display size. Other than that, it’s the same phone, so we’ll kill two birds with one stone in this review.

This is our Galaxy S8 / Galaxy S8+ review.

The Good


As I said, both the Galaxy S8 and S8+ are the same device, minus the display size and battery size. Inside both devices you will find a Snapdragon 835 processor, 4GB RAM, 64GB built-in storage, microSD support, NFC, iris scanner, fingerprint reader, facial recognition technology, 12MP rear-facing Dual Pixel camera, 8MP front-facing camera, IP68 water and dust resistance, USB Type-C, 3.5mm headphone jack (no courage!), MST for Samsung Pay, and Android 7.0 “Nougat.”

For the differing specs, the S8 features a 5.8″ Infinity Super AMOLED (Quad HD+, 2960×1440, 571ppi) display and 3,000mAh battery, while the S8+ features a 6.2″ Infinity Super AMOLED (Quad HD+, 2960×1440, 529ppi) display and 3,500mAh battery.

On paper, it might be hard find devices as good as the Galaxy S8 or S8+ at the moment. However, there’s always something to complain about. One could hope Samsung could find a way to fit bigger batteries into these things even though they are incredibly thin phones. The cameras didn’t receive much of an upgrade either this year either, but they were already so good in the Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge, it’s not like you’ll hear anyone actually complaining.


The design of the Galaxy S8 and S8+ is where these devices shine. It’s gorgeous and Samsung outdid themselves this time around. If you haven’t held these devices, think of them like the Galaxy Note 7, but with no home button on the front. In-hand, the Galaxy S8 feels like no other device I’ve held, and it could possibly be my all-time favorite phone to hold. I can’t quite say the same for the Galaxy S8+, simply because of its size. Don’t get me wrong, the S8+ is still nice, but not as nice as the smaller S8.

Both phones are covered in glass, with metal along the siding. I don’t typically bring up the slipperiness of a phone, but the S8 and S8+ feel so darn good when sliding your finger along the display and interacting with things. Buttery smooth. Along the bottom is a USB Type-C port, as well as Kellen’s favorite placement for the 3.5mm headphone hack.

In this design section, I could rip Samsung’s placement of a dedicated hardware button for Bixby, but I’ll get to that in the software section below. Because there are applications that allow for the remapping of Bixby, you can’t necessarily hate the added button. If you want quicker access to Google Now or Assistant, you have that choice. If Samsung ups and kills that “exploit” yet again, then we’ll have some words for Samsung, but until then, just customize the button however you might see fit. I will say, I have accidentally pressed the Bixby button a few times, though it’s not a constant mishap that has me screaming in my sleep.

I could also bring up Samsung’s placement of the fingerprint reader in this section, but again, I’ll save that for where it belongs – down in the not-so-good.

While ripping on those things is easy, I must also praise Samsung’s inclusion of on-screen buttons. They really help this design. I know a few may not be fans of the icons used, but hey, too late now. I give major props to Samsung for taking the chance on them, because you know company executives had countless meetings regarding the ditching of the home button. Think about the engineers who had sleepless nights over that damned home button. Either way, it’s gone, and the world seems like a better place without it.


Infinity. Display.

2017 has been awesome for display technology. Earlier this year, LG gave us the G6, with its extremely minimal bezels and we loved that. Now, Samsung is giving us the Infinity display, and let me tell you, this is slick. On the sides you have a curve that gently trickles over the sides of the device, but it’s not as drastic as it was on the Galaxy S6 Edge. It’s rounded smoothly, not a steep drop off.

On the regular S8, you have a 5.8″ Super AMOLED panel, rocking a resolution of QHD+ or 2960×1440 for those here that speak pixel. With regard to the aspect ratio, it’s much like LG’s on the G6, but with fewer software additions to benefit the size, at least from what I saw.

On the G6, LG built in software tweaks for the camera and entire modes to help users benefit from the ratio. On the Galaxy S8 and S8+, you don’t really get the sense that this is something new or great, just that it makes your YouTube videos look weird due to black bars on the sides or the stretched look when you “optimize” them. However, I will say that apps tend to act more naturally on the S8 than the G6, but there’s still a few that have issues. I have problems inside of Snapchat with this aspect ratio, and I’ve also had someone report they had issues with Instagram. Considering this whole 18:9 (G6) and 18.5:9 (S8, S8+) thing is new, I’ll give the developers some time to optimize their work.

One tweak made on the S8 and S8+ that I cannot live without, as it has become standard on almost all other devices, is the Blue Light Filter. Finally, Samsung, you did it. Instead of being blinded by the AMOLED’s retina-piercing colors (that’s a compliment), I’m now able to view my device at night and in the morning while laying in bed with no strain to my eyeballs. If you aren’t a user yourself of blue light filters on your device, get with it, folks.


For the camera in both the Galaxy S8 and S8+, Samsung is utilizing a Sony-made IMX333, very similar to what was found in last year’s Galaxy S7. While some may have expected a big upgrade, as Samsung tends to do each year, there isn’t all that much to improve in terms of overall quality. I mean, the S7 and S8 are some of the best shooters out there already. Not to say that you can’t improve upon it, you can, but I’m not over here crying about it.

For specs, the rear-facing shooter is 12MP, f/1.7 with phase detection auto focus, OIS, 1.4 µm, 4K video support, slow-mo (not 1000FPS as was reported), and support for 60FPS at FHD. This all adds up to a fantastic shooting experience, with the auto focus speed really blowing the doors down.


We recently conducted a camera showdown between the S8, Pixel, and G6. What we learned is that you can’t go wrong with any of the high-end smartphone shooting experiences, with the S8 really excelling in certain areas. It does have its cons, though. For example, the S8 tends to let in a lot of light, leaving some pictures overexposed. It does handle color quite well, especially purples and greens. I’ve found that Samsung phones deliver a certain warmness to photos, too, which others may see as just a yellowish hue. A lot of this is subjective, so I’ll typically just let the photos speak for themselves.

As for the software, the camera app is getting better yet again. Samsung used to bloat the heck out of the camera, but things seem much more streamlined. You’ve got your video and photo modes, as well as Slow-Mo, Food, Pro (enhanced scene settings), Hyperlapse, Panorama, Virtual Shot, Selective Focus, and you can even download others if you want. Point being, you probably won’t come across a shot you can’t handle, which is all anyone can ask for.

We have a ton of camera samples below, so give those a look.


Whenever I use a Samsung device, I have flashbacks to the Galaxy S5. How far we have come since then. Samsung’s latest UI and the overall system seems extremely snappy, with much of the credit going to the Snapdragon 835 processor and 4GB of RAM. From my experience, it’s a quick phone, one that is hard to slow down.

During my time with the S8 and S8+, I noticed a consistent experience on both models, which left me happy. I could dive into apps quickly, hit that recent apps button, then dive right into another. During gaming, I never experienced real lag or jank, which is something I’m always on the look for. I also didn’t run into any random reboots or freezes.

Inside the Settings menu, there’s a section for Device Maintenance. With this, Samsung assigns a numerical value to your device’s performance. If it’s low you can hit “Optimize,” which then clears up your memory and closes background apps. It’s like a task killer from back in the day. When I did experience a tad bit of lag, I went in there and hit Optimize, which freed up the phone rather well, I’d say. If you come across your own hiccup, don’t be afraid to go in there and give it a tap from time to time.

Somewhere in the Middle


Considering the Galaxy S8 and S8+ might be the best hardware in the game, you should expect nothing but excellence from its software, too. And while I stress that Samsung’s skin has matured into something much better than it used to be, it’s still not as elegant or easy to navigate as vanilla Android.

Once you get beyond the skin deep tweaks, such as subtle animations and popup bubbles that alert you of incoming messages, which all look and feel fantastic by the way, you realize that there are a few things that Samsung still can’t quite nail down. For example, if we look at an app folder that isn’t full of app shortcuts, the folder utilizes the entirety of the display, which is an awful waste of space. Not only that, but while I appreciate Samsung’s inclusion of an app drawer that you slide open, it does seem odd that I can swipe up or down to get into it, and when I attempt to swipe through apps, I will sometimes close the drawer because I can swipe up or down to close it, too.


These are the minor things that irk me, and when it comes down to it, this is why I say that Samsung’s skin has matured very well. It’s getting better, but there’s just minor things here and there that some may find bothersome. One areas in particular that has improved would be the Settings menu, which is completely navigable and no longer a labyrinth of confusing text and endless options. There’s Google Assistant, too, something I use on countless occasions. That does bring me to Bixby, though, Samsung’s wannabe digital assistant. Let’s discuss, shall we?

Bixby, at this exact point in time, is not Bixby. What Samsung shipped out on the S8 and S8+ is some half baked Google Now, perfect for absolutely nothing. Will that change? Yes it will, so I find it useless to sit here for an hour and bash something that is not even ready for the public. I will say, Bixby Vision is up and running on most S8 and S8+ devices, and that’s pretty cool. With it, I can snap a photo of toilet paper, then it will take me to Amazon to buy more toilet paper. When I showed this off to my girlfriend, she had that look of, “Hmm, I want to be impressed, but is this really the future of handheld computing?” Yes, my dear, yes it is.

Later this year, we can expect Samsung to formally launch Bixby, with its voice activated commands and broader usability. I will try to reserve most of my judgement for that time, which should be rather soon. Once available, we’ll definitely have a standalone review over of Bixby and what it is actually capable of.



On the Galaxy S8, I’ve seen pretty average battery life. In a typical day, I’d have about 10-20% juice left with 3-4 hours of screen on time. Not too bad, not too good. Typical and average. On the Galaxy S8+, though, I was seeing much better numbers. Provided it does have a bigger battery, I was going to bed with a solid 30-40% each night, always getting somewhere between 3-4 hours of screen on time. That’s much better and unlike the regular S8, I wasn’t too worried about running out of juice before bedtime.

I will say, I would love for a flagship, top tier device to come around that isn’t just average. I know it’s hard to jam a 4,500mAh battery in these ultra thin devices, but really, I’m okay with a somewhat thicker device. I’m not talking brick in the pocket, but come on already. Considering how many people value battery life, one of these companies will surely answer our prayers at some point.

Galaxy S8

Galaxy S8+

The Not-so-Good

Fingerprint Reader Placement

Worst fingerprint reader placement ever? Well, technically, yes, but only because this is the first device I’ve ever used with such a poor place for it. I mean, we’re all about having it on the backside, but up by the camera? Sorry, that won’t work for me.

Interestingly enough, before the S8 was announced and all we had were rumors and renders, I wrote my thoughts down about this positioning and essentially all of my fears were confirmed — I have placed my nasty little grease fingers on the camera’s glass way too many times to be comfortable with.

Now, on the Galaxy S8, I’ve at least been able to get somewhat used to the spot. Once I take the phone out of my pocket, I’m getting pretty good at where my finger goes. On the S8+, though, I simply don’t care for it whatsoever. In fact, I don’t even try to use it and just rely on facial recognition and using a pattern unlock to get into my phone. The fingerprint reader is just not worth the trouble.

Is it safe to say we never see this placement again? Samsung is typically pretty good at listening to feedback, so my hope is yes. It may be on the Note 8 later this year, but once Samsung and Synaptics have their fingerprint reader under glass tech complete, we should never have to deal with this again.

Software Updates

No, the Galaxy S8 and S8+ are not Pixel devices. You won’t see super fast software updates. Should that surprise you? Absolutely not. We’re Android users, so we’re used to this. On the upside, the S8 and S8+ ship with Nougat and Samsung has been very good about delivering monthly security updates. You can’t really ask for much more from a company that isn’t Google. Considering these are Samsung’s latest and there’s no Note 7 devices to update, Samsung’s main efforts should be focused entirely on the S7, S7 Edge, S8, and S8+. That should be manageable for Samsung.

Other Notes

  • Headphone jack – It’s got one! Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Apple!
  • Expandable storage – MicroSD cards are here to stay apparently and we’re very happy about this. You can load up your phone with as much as 256GB of extra storage.
  • Girlfriend impressions – My girlfriend is out of town this week, but I recall her mentioning she thought the S8 was oddly small for how large the display is. For the S8+, she wasn’t a fan. Too big for her girly hands.
  • Samsung Pay – If my bank would ever support Samsung Pay, maybe I could talk about it. Until then, I’ve heard great things, but hey, what can you do? My bank sucks.
  • Fast charging and wireless charging – Fast charging or some variant of it is basically offered on every high-end and mid-tier phone sold these days. On the S8 and S8+, you can get a wireless charger that is “fast” charging, which is awesome. If you have yet to invest in a wireless charger for your compatible phone, do it.


Provided these are Samsung flagships we’re talking about, you can find them everywhere. Verizon, Sprint, AT&T, T-Mobile, or wherever else you might be a customer. Pricing differs for each, so you will need to check with your carrier of choice for the latest details. Be sure to check Best Buy and Samsung’s site directly, as you could always find a random deal or promo taking place.



First 10 Things to Do

Best Cases for the Galaxy S8 / S8+



The Verdict

I’ve seen plenty of people say they don’t like the Galaxy S8. Why is that? Is it just because they’re haters of everything Samsung? I mean, even if you’re a Samsung hater, it’s hard to dislike the Galaxy S8, at least in my view. It’s one of the more beautiful devices to ever launch (yes, I know, beauty is subjective), it has fantastic specs, and Samsung’s custom software has come such a long way from the TouchWiz days of old. Seriously, get over it.

Now, should you run out and buy this phone? I’d recommend it, for sure, but it’s not the only phone I’d recommend. There’s a lot of great options out there and the S8/S8+ are just two of the best. You’ve got the G6 from LG that’s nice, plus plenty of other upcoming devices to look forward to. If you’re in the market, though, and need a phone right now, you’d be crazy not to at least consider the Galaxy S8 or Galaxy S8+, depending on how big your pockets are.

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  • Steve Yobs

    what wallpaper is in the 2nd pic?

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  • gemmax

    How is the video recording performance at FHD (60 FPS)? I have the Verizon S7 and the playback is absolutely terrible. Judging by comments on Reddit and other forums I don’t think I was alone in having this issue. I’m just curious if this is still the case with the S8.

  • Bruyork

    I love basically everything that they did with this phone but still very upset that the USA isn’t getting the Exynos which is clearly having better battery life.

  • The Doctor

    I had the S8+ for a few days and returned it. I was only getting about 4 hours SoT, which is unacceptable for an almost $900 device. That, and the fingerprint sensor is in an awful spot. I was getting too many messages about cleaning the camera lens.

    • ChargedUp

      Strange, I’ve found that my S8+ is the best battery performance of any phone I’ve had in years. Much better than the V20 I came from.

      • The Doctor

        I’m glad it’s working for you, but it didn’t last very long for me. My iPhone 7 Plus lasts longer in battery life.

  • Chad

    Horrible fingerprint scanner placement? Yes. Does it matter that much? No.

    Seriously, the iris scanner is so efficient that I never have to unlock the device with a print

  • Shott3r

    Money is a helluva thing. I walked into my AT&T store asking to see a G6. The way the store was set up, you would not know that anyone other than Samsung and Apple made phones. They “did not have a G6 display model,” but would I be interested in looking at the S8? The subsequent hard sell on the S8 was eye-opening. I passed by the T-Mobile store and Verizon store in the same mall, and it was same duopoly. It’s one thing to have billions to throw at TV, print and online advertising, but when you get prime placement and carrier employees pushing your product over a competitor the customer asked for, no wonder no one else can compete, even when they build comparable hardware. If you’re a fan of HTC, LG or some other non-Samsung brand, this will explain a lot. Samsung is going to sell a ton of these, but not just because it’s a beautiful phone with good specs.

  • HeatFan786

    Did the battery stats come from AOD being enabled, WQHD+, and other important settings you cannot determine from the shared screenshots?

  • Rod

    S8’s battery life is significantly worse than S7’s

  • paul_cus

    Nice review, but I’d like to see what HTC is coming with.

  • ToddAwesome

    Does is ever NOT rain in Portland?

  • Doomsday

    I love my S8. Best smartphone I’ve used thus far.

  • Murph

    Ok, on my VZW S8, I can’t find the “Device Management” section you describe in Settings ANYWHERE. Did VZW leave that out somehow?

    • trevorsalienarms


      • JeffE

        Good to know. I’ve been searching for that and couldn’t figure out why i was unable to locate it.

        • trevorsalienarms

          Someone else posted that VZW has a crappy version of it in their MyVerizon app. I’ve never even opened that app, ever.

  • NexusMan

    Is the physical, exterior hardware of the camera the same as on the S7? Because it was poorly designed and prone to shattering.

    • trevorsalienarms


      • NexusMan


        And the many other owners who flooded Samsung’s inbox and message boards with photos and complaints. With no acceptable response from Samsung.

        • trevorsalienarms

          That’s a real bummer NexusMan.

          • NexusMan

            Yea. It’s 1 of the few things that turned me off again to Samsung…not only the defect but the way they handled it. Some users speculated it was battery related (way before Batterygate), saying the phone got so hot it caused the thin glass to shatter. Anyway Samsung kept telling everyone it wasn’t​ an issue and they had never heard that before and everyone kept providing links, photos and quotes from all the many other users who also complained to them and received the same bs response. Finally, I moved on to the Pixel and never looked back.

          • trevorsalienarms

            Pixel is low on features I want for the price and “pure” Android is super boring. It’s a vehicle for Assistant, primarily. And the Pixel is certainly not without its own share of issues.

            I’m fine with taking a chance with the camera glass.

          • NexusMan

            Oh, I didn’t mention it to try to sway you or anyone else, I just asked a question and shared my experience. I, too, was gung ho about the last Galaxy S, but less than 5 months in I was over it, frustrated and pissed off…and not just about the shattered camera and bad customer service. I’m still “mostly” greatly satisfied with my Pixel, though.

  • ScoobySnack

    Hate the curved screen. GS7 (non-Edge) FTW. Really stupid IMO that they didn’t offer different screens with the GS8 and GS8+.

  • Very pretty phone. I just can’t stand the fact it will lag in a few months. I’d bet my life a Moto G5 Plus would launch apps faster and scroll better than these S8s.

    • Stabby McKnifington

      How do you know it will lag in a few months?

      • trevorsalienarms

        Because reasons, apparently.

        • Stabby McKnifington

          As a phoneaholic I’ve owned and own a lot devices. In the last year I’ve had a s6,Nexus 6, MotoG 45, Pixel (still have), Nexus 6p (Still have) and an s7 (still have).

          The only one of those that I’ve ever seen lag is the Nexus 6. The Moto G is definitely slower, but it doesn’t lag. The s6 had the memory killing issue where you couldn’t switch apps without it killing it…but other than that I personally have not seen any lag on a Galaxy device.

          • trevorsalienarms

            Me neither. But whenever I say that, the replies are always “oh, trust me, it’s there. you just don’t notice it”.


            Must be like a tree falling in the forest.

          • Stabby McKnifington

            Given all those devices – I still use the s7 as my daily driver. There are things I do and don’t like about it. But on average, it’s pretty clear to me why it sells the most. Marketing is definitly part of it – but it just works and gives me the fewest headaches.

      • Because every Samsung has? And anyone who says, they don’t notice lag or slowdowns is because they haven’t used anything else.

        • Stabby McKnifington

          I use lots of phones. Never noticed lag in my s6 or s7

        • thereasoner

          My GS6 still runs like a champ, you’re full of it !

  • Brian

    I’ve been patient with buying a new phone for 4 hrs and the S8+ didn’t disappoint. I’m coming from a Nexus 5 so this is a huge upgrade. I’m going to miss pure android but this screen and battery makes up for it

  • mac103

    I’m just not a fan of the curved screens. Yes, they look absolutely stunning, but there is too much distortion on the edges and not enough real estate….makes it way to skinny. Bring back the flat panel option please……

    • trevorsalienarms

      Look absolutely stunning.

      Too much distortion.

      Choose one.

      • Ryan Batty

        Looks stunning in the center, looks fugly on the edges

        • trevorsalienarms

          so not absolutely then

  • Nicholas Ringhiser

    I’m already returning mine tomorrow. Gave it a few days, but already swapped my SIM back in to my Nexus 6p. I don’t hate the S8, but I can’t justify the price for something I’m not completely happy with.

    I really don’t like the curved display. Just feels awkward and uncomfortable. Also, that speaker placement on the bottom of the phone is pretty bad. Guess I’ve been used to the Nexus 6 and 6p stereo speakers and really, going to a speaker on the bottom feels like a step backwards. The fingerprint scanner placement is by far the worst I’ve ever experienced. I tried getting used to it with a case, but I just couldn’t.

  • MichaelFranz

    I’d like to see another semi-retired after another month when you had a chance to tweak the phone to your liking.

    I agree with the gripes. But honestly I’ve gotten. Used to the finger printed reader it doesn’t bother me. And with the Spigen utkra hybrid…. 0 issues at all and my camera is fingerprint free.

  • instrument

    Why all the fingerprint scanner placement complaints with android supporting trusted devices? I cant wait till the note or the pixel2 so i can get rid of this iphone!

  • litobirdy

    What underwater wallpaper is that? In most of the video review

  • xzero425x

    Legit the best phone I’ve ever had. It’s sooooo smooth!! Like I’m honestly impressed by it, not one complaint yet!

  • MicroNix

    Does the sun ever shine there?

  • Futbolrunner

    I’m on Verizon’s grandfathered UDP. Has anyone figured the wireless tether hotspot hack with this phone? FoxFi’s was killed for the 7.0 update.

    Other than that issue this phone is perfect. But that’s a deal breaker for me so I may have to return it if I can’t find a workaround.

    • Brian Cruz

      Have you tried just popping sim tray (not removing completely) and reinserting and hitting hotspot. I know on my Moto Z Play after the Nougat update that is what was found to work.

      • Futbolrunner

        I try that too on my Play. I just tried it and it works.. thanks man!!

        • Brian Cruz

          Sweet. Glad it worked. I just picked up the s8+ today so that’s good to know it worked.

  • VAVAMk_2

    Just 3-4 hours screen on time? I can get about 5 on my 6P (just got the battery replaced).

    • Brushrop03

      The S8+ is considerably better. Got 7hrs yesterday

      • VAVAMk_2


  • Dan

    Jank city. Returned mine yesterday.

    • Tom Ireland

      Son’s S7 Edge suffered the typical touchwiz slow down. Super jank. Did a factory reset for him yesterday…he was not happy having to set up some apps, but the performance improvement he appreciated.

  • #S8PlusIs Boss

    I’m Definitely enjoying my S8plus since Wednesday April 19th and it’s been a glorious experience.

    I’m getting 19hrs uptime with 8hrs screen on time daily since April 19th.

    Nothing on the market today tops the S8 or S8plus period. Every other manufacturer goes back to the drawing effective immediately.

  • Dude

    I hated the finger print sensor placement when I got the phone. But after I put a case on it, it’s really easy to hit the sensor the first try. I use it as primary unlock now.

  • trevorsalienarms

    Heart rate sensor? Blue light filter is not making it’s first appearance here, Note 7 had it, and Nougat-updated S6, S7 and Note 5 devices got it as well.

    And yes, Samsung pay is excellent.

  • Phil

    How do you not have any Chase rewards cards?! Samsung pay is one of the killer apps on their phones!

  • droidbeat

    One of my peeves on smartphones is the unnecessarily narrow and tall 16:9 screens that are inefficient in terms of screen area. I would much prefer a slightly more square (wider and shorter) aspect ratio such as 3:2 for more screen area for a given screen diagonal measurement. But, along come LG and Samsung to go the wrong direction with that ridiculous candy bar shape that ruins the content consumption experience. However stylish it looks, that aspect ratio prevents me from even considering it.

    • Phil

      Lol buy a first generation iPhone then. Wider phones are way harder to hold onto.

  • drcaveman

    Iris scanner and secure lock all the way, only used the fingerprint scanner once so far to set my fingerprint that’s it.

  • Pixelfan

    To all of Samsung fans – give it a month or two for Touchwiz to kickin and you’ll experience the real magic of Touchwiz..we have seen this movie before. Nexus/Pixel FTW,

    • KleenDroid

      Have no idea what you are talking about. And I’m sure you don’t either.

      As far as the bloat goes simply install Package Disabler Pro and freeze it all with one click.

    • southerndinner

      Hasn’t happened to my S7 edge after a year… If anything it got faster after nougat

    • trevorsalienarms

      “Samsung fans.

      Wait until you’ve tried one.”

      You want to maybe do that over?

  • Hep

    I love my S8+! I just miss the Note pen.

    You wanna feel it really come to life and be SNAPPY, go in to Developer Options and turn all the animations to 0x. And then install Nova Launcher and switch the transitions and animations to Ultra Fast. With those settings, the only slowing down my phone is the connection and apps speeds to gather the first batch of data.

    And for the finger print reader, put a textured wrap on the (I got the blue hexgon from slickwraps) and then you can really feel where the finger print reader is. Just don’t apply the wrap to it, though. I also put a piece around the camera lens for extra measure. I never touch the camera now!

    • Chris Hannan

      I put the animations on .5x because I still like seeing animations, but it feels so much quicker now.

  • Defenestratus

    I can’t stand the sizeism that’s on display by this site against bigger phones. You should be ashamed of your hate.

    • markwebb

      Yeah this site is driven by advertisers influence as of late and or poor judgement and writing.

    • Suicide_Note

      It’s always been there. Once phones started going over the 5″ mark, i think that’s when it became an issue for DL. It’s cool, though. Doesn’t change my opinion that, all else being equal, a larger display is superior to a smaller one.

    • Impheatus

      AFAIK Tim has always prefered bigger phones. On the other hand, it’s Kellen who loves the smaller phones (much like me).
      I’ve never seen any bias related to that, here in DL.

  • whqhdrbs

    I’ve had my s8+ for 5 days and I love everything about this phone and battery life 6-7hrs screen on time

  • markwebb

    Totally disagree. I have lost respect for this site over the past year or so. Another good site goes down the drain along with their overbearing advertisers.
    Why aren’t you reporting the hundreds of users on the Google support site reporting pixel issues?

    • Lucky Armpit

      Did you actually read the review? I mean, read and comprehend what was said? The review was hardly “mostly negative”. You want mostly negative reviews, especially Android-related? Try reading BGR. Those folks are so far up Apple’s butts they probably know Tim Cook’s blood type.

      • markwebb

        Readers tend to read the beginning and end of reviews. The end of the review states:” Now, should you run out and buy this phone? I’d recommend it, for sure, but it’s not the only phone I’d recommend. There’s a lot of great options out there and the S8/S8+ are just two of the best. ” This is basically gives pause to the consumer. IMHO, there are no great options. LG G6 barely competes. Pixel is overpriced, lacking in features and having a rash of issues (see Google Support Site – I returned mine 3x). Other than that, it is the Apple 7 Plus.

        • Suicide_Note

          That’s the thing about opinions: we all have them, and we don’t always agree about them. It’s not DL’s fault if some of their dumber visitors choose to only read the beginning and end of an article/review.

          You obviously don’t agree with DL’s review, and that’s perfectly fine. You seem to think the S8 has no real competition? Great. Go out and buy one. However, there are other great alternatives out there, whether you choose to believe it or not.

  • H2OzDMG

    Thanks for the review Tim!

  • MadMartigan

    Case that thing. I know, I know….I hate cases, too. But here’s the thing – that fingerprint scanner? It gets so much easier to use when there’s an edge to rest your finger against as you’re reaching for it.

    On my S8+ it was as unusable as the reviewer claims it to be – with a case, it’s always right on the inside edge of the case’s camera cutout. Super-simple to find and I get it now every time. I know it’s kludgey, but if you want it to work without fighting with your device, that’s it – the easiest way, right there.

    Now you can hate where they put it, but actually use it as well. 🙂

  • JBz007

    I love my S8+ and it’s borderline perfect after putting nova launcher on it. I think it would be perfect if the Bixby button was truly customizable instead of clunky work arounds.

  • deskjob

    Question about the display size – with the curved screen, is it calculated as if the screen is flattened? Been curious about this and have yet to find a definitive answer

    • steadymobb

      No — the screen on the 5.8 is more like 5.6″ because of the curves

  • Racinx

    If you purchase from the Samsung site, you can also get the Samsung VR with it free ($60-90 value). And if you don’t want the VR could least sell it 3rd party to get alittle money back. Just throwing that out there.

  • Mark Schiller

    I love my S8+. Coming from the N6, the phone doesn’t feel big in my hand at all. Actually smaller in width.

    But I can’t find the Device Maintenance menu you speak of.

    • On Verizon? Verizon disables Device Maintenance. Among other small things.

      • Lucky Armpit

        Really? Why on earth would they do that? No wonder I couldn’t find it. Wonder if there’s a way to unlock it?

        • Because Verizon has a crappy version in their My Verizon app. Just like they disable the spam filter caller id option so they can sell you their Caller ID app! And disable Samsung Cloud so they can sell you their crappy Verizon Cloud. And disable Bixby shopping until they can figure out how to get a cut of anything you buy through Amazon that way. And disable Samsungs security check so you can use their Verizon Support and Protection! I’m not sure why they disable the Places option in the dialer, but I’m sure it’s not for a good reason!

      • sinfoman

        +1 for VZ being D0uches about this… come on guys!

  • Michael Bassett

    Is the fingerprint reader only an issue if you plan on using it to unlock your phone? What is it used for? I use a pattern/pin. Seems like people need something to complain about.

    • AvalancheRyder

      I don’t know how many apps on Android use the fingerprint reader, but at least on an iPhone, many apps that requires a user name and password allow you to authenticate with a fingerprint instead. Banking apps, Amazon, etc. I’d imagine it’s the same on Android, so it’s way more than just unlocking the phone.

      Here’s a link with some good examples on Android.


      • Michael Bassett

        Play store and Amazon would be the only things I could possibly use, glad I won’t be bothered by the placement when mine comes in. I can see now why others may be complaining about it.

  • disastrousrainbow

    If you do get this phone, I HIGHLY recommend you consider a case. My phone literally slipped out of my hoodie pocket, slid down the side of leg, and hit the ground at a height of maybe six or so inches and the back glass cracked. I’ve also seen other poor saps whose front screen has cracked already from similar small drops.

    • MadMartigan

      The case also helps reduce the pain of locating the fingerprint sensor as well. It’ll always be on the inside edge of the camera cutout – makes it much easier to find.

      • trevorsalienarms

        I know what you meant, but funny (maybe sad) that this is what is considered a “pain” these days.

        • MadMartigan

          Just going along with the over-dramatic portrayal. To hear Kellen talk about it, you’d think it was a tragedy.

          Alternate response; ikr? First World Problems…

    • MichaelFranz

      mine took a 4ft drop onto tile face down. no problems. i also have a spigen ultra hybrid on mine, but still, nonetheless, nervous moment

      • disastrousrainbow

        That’s probably why it survived just fine. Spigen’s TPU cases, even the slimmer liquid crystal ones, do a fantastic job with drops. Last year, I was walking up the steps to my sister’s house, tripped, and my S7 went flying out of my hand, slid all the way across her porch and then off of it, and landed face down on the ground. Phone was absolutely fine.

    • Caveman

      I feel your pain and am here to help – National Suicide Prevention Lifeline – Call 1-800-273-8255

    • Steve Redlich

      Less than a week of ownership, with a case, and an accidental knock off the nightstand produces a cracked screen. I think it just hit the tile floor, but cannot imagine how the screen would have cracked unless it hit the corner of the base of the nightstand. It looks like there is an impact on the curved edge about halfway up the screen, but still seems like to be pretty fragile compared to all the S7, S6, and S5’s that I have dropped many times with no ill effect. Looking at tempered screen protectors now as well for the replacement.

  • Kenneth

    I like my S8+, but I am just about ready to go back to my Moto Z droid (cost was WAY less and is paid for). I am still looking forward to the Note 8. The FPR on the S8+ is just not useful for me. My phone spends most of it’s day on the desk or in a mount as I am driving. A front FPR makes things so much simpler. I realize there are ways to minimize the need for unlocking, but with young kids running around even smart lock can be a concern. The battery life seems impressive, hope it continues over the next year(s).

  • Ryan Batty

    Never been interested because of software updates, fingerprint reader placement, and only edge display.

    • Lucky Armpit

      You’re missing out on the best smartphone of 2017. Sorry about that.

      • Suicide_Note

        Slow down there, turbo. Considering we’re only in April, proclaiming the S8 as the best phone of the year is hilariously premature and silly. Especially when we still have the Pixel 2, Note 8, OP5, iPhone 8, and who knows what else still on the way.

        • hkklife

          Its gonna be a helluva good year for smartphones just based on the G6 & GS8….and yes, maybe even the KEYone too!

    • whqhdrbs

      why is update so important? when all it does is bringing in bugs and slowdown? and the features update brings are already in Samsung like split screen and as for the security update, Samsung does it every month

    • DanG

      At least, you’re not one of the TW haters, are you?

    • trevorsalienarms

      Yeah, you probably shouldn’t buy one then.

    • Ryan Batty

      Don’t mind TW. Seems bugs and slowdowns happen naturally in Samsung phones. I like having the latest Android has to offer. Plus edge display is a deal breaker. Don’t see what functionality it adds, other than distortion and a bigger area for the screen to break.

      • trevorsalienarms

        *All* instances of Android rot. Read up on it.

  • DanSan

    I stopped reading the second I hit this line, “Don’t get me wrong, the S8+ is still nice, but not as nice as the smaller S8.”

    That is a completely subjective statement. I think the S8+ is nicer because it has a bigger screen. These personal comments based on your personal preference is not a justification on why one is nicer than the other. I could argue the S8+ is nicer because bigger battery, that is an undisputed fact, something that is cut and dry.

    • steadymobb

      It is subjective. As all reviews are.

    • Zee12399

      “In-hand, the Galaxy S8 feels like no other device I’ve held, and it could possibly be my all-time favorite phone to hold. I can’t quite say the same for the Galaxy S8+, simply because of its size. Don’t get me wrong, the S8+ is still nice, but not as nice as the smaller S8.”

      lol. You must not have read the previous sentence, as it explains that he is talking about HIS in hand experience… not making an objective statement about the phones in general.

      • steadymobb

        Lol he edited the comment

        • Zee12399

          Well now I just look like an idiot ranting about nothing.

    • Fozzybare

      I mean, the awkward placement of the fingerprint scanner alone on the S8+ makes me like it less than the S8.

    • Colin Huber

      You stopped reading because you disagreed with something? Dang.

  • Robert Schuman

    It seems the Verizon model doesn’t have the device maintenance section in settings you mentioned. I even did a search in the settings app and couldn’t find it.

    • Skwisgaar

      Just noticed that as well…was looking after reading the review and couldn’t find it. If I’m remembering correctly, this isn’t the first time they’ve had this feature / Verizon killed it. Feels like deja vu.

      • Robert Schuman

        You’re right, they have a track record of removing features for no apparent reason other than because Verizon.

    • PKells

      Not only did Verizon get rid of this setting they also got rid of the auto restart option, and the bixpy vision tie in to Amazon shopping. While I don’t need any of these things, it’s always annoying when Verizon removes things. On the plus side they did include VZ Navigator which is an amazing and app….Said no one ever.

      • Robert Schuman

        Yeah, don’t know why Verizon insists on removing things. I know, right? VZ Nav is such a great program. At least they let us fully uninstall it on the S8, that was a surprise.

  • Brock Dawkins

    Replaced my pixel xl with S8+ and so far I love it. I had a S3 back in the day so I was scared if going back to touch wiz, but it is so much better now. Still a little clunky, but wayyy better. I am going to miss vanilla Android and the pixel XL camera (Superior in my opinion) but this screen is just gorgeous.

    • MadMartigan

      Same, except my last Sammy was the S2.

      Installed Google Now and a Pixel theme (Google Now launcher actually picks up the themed icons) and It’s almost close-enough.

      Can’t stop looking at that screen though. Just…man.

      • Brock Dawkins

        I’m just running Apex

    • whqhdrbs

      for me I found new touchwiz even better than stock one, there are many hidden features…I suggest you to watch some Youtube video on hidden features

      • Brock Dawkins

        Like what? I think I’ve seen mostly everything. No system ui tuner though :/

    • Orlando aka Pixel XL

      Same situation, been a Nexus and pixel XL since my Samsung Nexus. I also owner a seat, which was my first Samsung product. I downloaded the pixel launcher and pixel icon theme, very hard with what I have…amazing phone.

      • Brock Dawkins

        Where did you get the pixel launcher?

        • Orlando aka Pixel XL

          google pixel launcher apk, download it and install it..its sooo much better…

          • Brock Dawkins

            I’m sorry. Which version did you download? I just tried and it says pixel launcher has stopped working.

          • Orlando aka Pixel XL
          • Brock Dawkins

            What the hell? Downloaded that version and I try to run it and it says pixel launcher has stopped. Then I have to choose close app.

          • Orlando aka Pixel XL

            Weird, im on att S8+, I just set it to default and it hasn’t crashed once every, I use this app for Nexus 6 too and it worked..

          • Orlando aka Pixel XL

            Maybe, try restarting the phone.

          • Brock Dawkins

            Tried that. Oh well.

          • GalaxyUser

            Why not use Nova Launcher, you can set it up to look just like that Pixel launcher, and even has more features…

          • Brock Dawkins

            I am now. Sliding left for Google now is gone though. Have it set for double tap.

          • Orlando aka Pixel XL

            That’s the version, dude, it’s just like my pixel, I added a nougat icon pack and it worked with the pixel launcher… So nice, just look for that version

          • Orlando aka Pixel XL
        • Orlando aka Pixel XL

          here u go, how it looks

        • Orlando aka Pixel XL
    • Skwisgaar

      Loving my S8+ as well! Not gonna lie, I’m still anxiously waiting to see what the Pixel 2 and Note 8 look like. But this will happily hold me over until then!! Blows the Note 5 I was coming from out of the water!!

      • Brock Dawkins

        I agree! Anxious about the pixel 2.

        • Skwisgaar

          Yeah initial reports/rumors on Pixel 2 sound like it’s going to be pretty amazing. And I feel like if the S8 is any indication of what the Note 8 might be like, I’m thinking that might be pretty epic as well! Plus they’ll have time to get the features on there that didn’t make it for the S8 (fingerprint scanner under the glass / dual camera setup, etc.) Lots of cool stuff going to be coming in the next few months!

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    • malcmilli

      just plop on a stock theme cowboy

      • Brock Dawkins

        ….we can theme?

        • malcmilli

          at least you can on the s7 edge, i went into theme settings and put on stock theme, i still have all the bells and whistles but it looks just like nova launcher, etc.

  • Blacklight: Retribution

    My Galaxy S8 Plus is great.

  • Lee

    Just picked up an S8+, coming from an LG V10. Is there anyway to specify which apps auto hide the navigation buttons like I could in the LG?
    Like how the youtube apps auto hides them in landscape mode. I have a few apps that I need to hide the nav buttons in.

    • New_Guy

      I think of you choose what apps can go full-screen, that should help you some


      • Lee

        I did try setting those apps to use full screen. Still had the nav buttons showing. I’ve seen those steps using ADB but would rather not have it all or nothing. Would prefer to be able to select which apps will have the hidden nav buttons. Ya know.

        • New_Guy

          Ah okay, I hear ya. Hey, I tried =/…

        • hkklife

          Yep, I know what you are saying. I had a V10/V20 before and you could hide the back/home/recent buttons and swipe up to bring ’em back. Samsung’s option for “full screen” means blowing the apps up to accomodate for the extra pixel width but totally ignores the onscreen buttons at the bottom. i really, really wish I could hide ’em too.

  • Eric

    Living life on the edge with that risky second shot 😁

  • TurtlePowah

    Picked up my S8+ to replace my work iPhone 6s and so far so good. The lack of bezels takes some getting used to because I’m not reaching far enough down to hit the on screen buttons and the FPR is in a truly bad spot, but since I have it paired with my Gear S3, I only have to unlock it once or twice a day.

  • mcdonsco

    Sticking with my G6 despite my rediculous new flagship (phones in generally really) addiction.

    The FPR on the back is already something I don’t care for but could deal with, hence the G6, but then Samsung goes and makes it WORSE with the location? Bad move.

    Plus, I’m already seeing reports of wireless charging issues which I’ve had with every S7 variant and Note 5 I’ve owned (a lot, STD and Edge, Exynos and SD), so knowing it seems to be worse with the S8? Yea, no thanks.

    And last, curved screen and laggy TW (might be better on the S8, Samsung does seem to improve it a bit with each gen, but never seems to be able to completely resolve it).

    Plus, the dual camera on this G6 just can’t be beat, period.

    • Murphy’s Magnet

      mcdonaco: Hey look, something positive. I should really make a negative comment as quickly as possible before people start having happy thoughts or something.

    • BG

      entitled to your opinion, but saying TW is laggy while being a LG owner is just lol

      • mcdonsco

        Your experience is yours, mine is mine…Just about every phone I’ve owned in the last 3 years or so (dozens and dozens) have been either stock Android or near (like OnePlus/Moto etc) or Samsung’s and the Sammy’s always sent me back to stock due to lag…I thought it was skins in general, but then got a deal on the G5 (bought several, resold for profit, used one for a few weeks) and that showed me proof positive it’s not skins in general, it’s Samsung’s skin.

        Again though, your experience is yours, mine is mine. Not sure how they could different in this sense, but apparently they do and that’s fine. But I don’t use/buy tech based solely on someone else’s experience, I base it on MY experience.

        • BG

          Of course stock android performs better, that is a fact. However, LG software does not…which is a damn shame

          • mcdonsco

            I didn’t say LG’s performs better than stock, I said it performs better than Samsung skins.

          • Synacks

            It doesn’t though.

          • steadymobb

            LG’s skin is HORRID

          • BG

            but it doesn’t. which is also a fact.

          • mcdonsco

            What exactly is your point? Do you seriously expect someone to agree with YOUR OPINION THAT DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS THEIR OWN EXPERIENCE?

            I don’t care what your opinion or experience is, mine has not been the same.

            Why you insist on having a problem with that is beyond me unless you’re just trolling.

          • BG

            you’re so angry man

          • mcdonsco

            Nope, just tired of people around here challenging others EXPERIENCE with, well, seems to be anything…It’s annoying. You apparently didn’t have the same experience with these issues that I have, fine…Get over it. Doesn’t make you right or me wrong and doesn’t need to be argued about.

            Guessing you’re just trolling though.

          • Zee12399

            You get that your opinion contradicts others’ experiences as well, right? Maybe don’t share your opinion if you are this closed to having others tell you theirs.

          • mcdonsco

            So because this forum is full of aholes we should just all shut up and say nothing? The entire POINT to these comments sections is expressing opinions and experiences, but unfortunately there are a ton of people here who would rather anyone and everyone with a different opinion or experience just shut up and leave and they will hassle someone until they do just that.

            It’s childish, petty and stupid and unfortunately it’s getting worse because those of us that DO NOT BEHAVE THAT WAY are getting sick of it and leaving in droves leaving these comments sections to be populated largely by aholes.

            I’m pretty damn stubborn, that’s why I’m still around here, but it’s beginning to become intolerable to me as well.

          • cromo8

            Just a troll. Ignore

      • hkklife

        I have spent extensive time in both over the past few years (GS III, Note 3, Note 4, V10, V20, GS8+) and I will say that TW usually performs like lightning out of the box BUT gradually slows to a crawl with each successive buggy/unoptimized update and whatever else Samsung does to make their devices perform worse over time (deteriorating EMMC?)

        LG’s devices seem to be laggier initially but they “age” better over time. Both UIs have their pros and cons. I greatly prefer Samsung’s camera app in automatic mode but prefer LG’s manual mode. I like LG’s PIM implementation for contacts & calendar and Samsung seems to be regressing in this department (I am an old PDA guy so that’s very important to me). Samsung definitely has the edge on rolling out security updates.

    • Synacks

      So far no lag or issues with wireless charging. Have 3 wireless chargers. Only issue for me so far is fingerprints.

      • mcdonsco

        I get that response all the time. I have TYLT Vu’s and Samsung pucks both standard and fast charging and with EVERY Samsung phone I’ve owned in the last roughly two years I would regularly wake up to little to no battery left. I would set it on the charger at night, verify its charging, then wake up to nearly dead battery. I’ve swapped those charging pads between those I mentioned that I have with all phones (at least 3 S7’s two were Exynos, one SD edge and one Exynos edge and two more 5’s – same across the board).

        Maybe I’m just the unluckiest person alive, I don’t know, but that’s been my experience with it.

        • Synacks

          Possibly lol.

          I had two S7 Edges with my wireless chargers and they all worked fine too. My wireless chargers are dual coil fast chargers. No issues with two S7E’s and one S8. They weren’t expensive either.

          • mcdonsco

            It’s not the chargers. And again, I don’t care what others say about their experience with this issue, all that matters to me is MY experience with this issue. Works great for you? Good for you, that has not been my experience at all.

          • Synacks

            I’m just showing you facts and information. Nothing more.

          • mcdonsco

            Facts and information, got it … My God.

        • BG

          I have the same charge, 6e, s8 and my LG phones all work on it

      • DanSan

        Is it normal for the phone be to a little warm after charging all night on one of these? bought last years samsung branded fast charger for my nightstand and was kind of freaked out this morning when i felt the phone.

      • whqhdrbs

        that wireless charging issue was fake

    • it’s me tim-cock.
    • southerndinner

      The camera actually can be beat. The pixel does it

  • Synacks

    Love mine! Battery life on my regular S8 is much better than yours Tim and I have a lot of apps and use it a lot. Maybe yours is weird 🙂

    • Murphy’s Magnet

      I was thinking the same thing. I have the S8+ and the battery life has been great so far. Typically getting around 24 hours with 4 hours of SOT.

      • RazorSky

        I’ve got a Pixel XL and get 24 hours and from 4 – 6 hours SOT. I tend to charge in the afternoon at work and go until the next day.

    • Lucky Armpit

      I was going to say the same thing… I’m going to bed with easily 30% – 40% battery left, sometimes more. That includes looking at my album art while my music is playing (screen on, in other words) and even a 30 – 60 minute bout in the Gear VR.

    • disastrousrainbow

      DL’s battery stats are always kind of garbage compared to most. I’m consistently hitting 3.5 to 4 hours with at least 25-30% of my battery left on the S8 by the end of the night and a 15 hour day…


    I know there are benefits to glass backs like wireless charging, but I’d like Samsung to make an aluminum option.. same design with a seamless aluminum back. always loved the feel of that cold metal when you wake up in the morning

    • Synacks

      Yeah I would like that option too if at all possible. As long as wireless charging and magnetic mounts were still possible.

    • Murphy’s Magnet

      I wonder if an aluminum back would mess with Samsung Pay.

    • mcdonsco

      I just don’t like glass because despite how nice it is to the touch, look etc, it lends to making phones more fragile with each generation. But, I’m a wireless charging fan, so, prefer not metal either.

  • Murphy’s Magnet

    I have to say that I’m absolutely loving mine. I’m looking forward to see what the Note 8 has to offer too.

    • hkklife

      Same here. I didn’t expect to love the S8+ this much. In fact, it has exceeded my expectations in nearly every way. Even the audio output from Qualcomm’s DAC is superb (I was worried about that after the LG V10 & V20).

      I think that TouchWiz is starting to get a little too much feature creep/bloat again (especially the camera app) but I am stunned at how smooth everything runs. I haven’t had any major issues with the screen aspect ratio either. Battery life for me has been phenomenal. The S8+ lasts so much longer AND charges faster than my V20 and especially the V10 that it’s not even funny. I have battery saver off, wi-fi on most of the time, screen at 60% brightness and it easily lasts all day and then some and that’s even with the FB app installed. If Samsung’s promises of the battery losing only 10% of it’s capacity after a year’s time is true then I’ll be in good shape for the first phone I’ve owned since the Droid DNA with a fixed battery.

      Negatives are sometimes there’s way too much processing applied to the camera shots (they are great, but I think I expected more of an improvement over the GS7), the aforementioned TW bloat, and the horrid placement of the fingerprint scanner. And I am not a fan of the newer TW keyboard (nothing beats the Note 4/5 keyboards!) Video stabilization is REALLY good as well. Iris scanner is a joke and the facial recognition isn’t much better.

      Give me a Note 8 with 6.4″ screen, 128GB storage + microSD, dual rear camera lenses, 4,000 mAh battery, and fingerprint sensor under the screen glass and I’ll buy it in a minute

      I’m still furious at Samsung for the $99 Immersive bundle bait & switch, however. Their engineering dept runs circles around their marketing dept, obviously.

      • TheHater

        Why do say the iris scanner is a joke?

    • DanSan

      I switched from a Nexus 6 to the S8+ and I am loving everything about this phone. Seriously cannot find something i dislike, well… aside from that bixby button but a quick remap solved that.

      • Lucky Armpit

        I came from the Nexus 6 too and the S8 seems like a Ferrari next to that slow, lagging, clunky N6 with Andorid 7.1.1. I have minor complaints about the S8 but they are indeed minor cause I’m really digging the S8.

      • Jay Ward

        Do you miss the front facing speakers?

        • DanSan

          Definitely do but everything else makes up for it.

          • Jay Ward

            Nice, glad to hear it. I haven’t made the jump cause I am not sure if samsung s8+ will get root, bootloader unlocked, etc….

          • DanSan

            Yea… thats not happening. If those things are important to you, don’t ever buy a samsung device.

          • Jay Ward

            Yea, that is what I was afraid of.

          • yowhatsup

            My s5 is rooted and bootloader unlocked with cm13 on it. So it’s possible for Samsung phones to get those things, by it may take a while for it to happen. I think the Verizon s5 was bootloader unlocked sometime last year.

            Would be awesome if the s8 was bootloader unlocked soon.