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“All New HTC One” for Verizon Sold on eBay for Just $500, Packaging Outs Specs

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What’s that, you thought the “All New HTC One” leak situation couldn’t get any worse (for HTC) or more ridiculous? Silly, you should know better. Today, it got substantially more entertaining, if anything, as an apparent Verizon model was listed and sold on eBay for $499. We aren’t sure if the seller didn’t realize what they had or if they were trying to play it extra sneaky. But for full retail on an unreleased flagship phone that we can’t stop talking about, $500 seems like the steal of the century. The phone will more than likely be listed at $600 when it’s released.

If that wasn’t enough, the packaging has been outed as well, along with a spec list that had avoided us until now.

According to the back of the Verizon box, we are looking at a device with a Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 processor clocked at 2.3GHz, 32GB of on-board storage, microSD slot with expansion up to 128GB, 2GB DDR2 RAM, 5-inch FHD (1920×1080) display, HTC BoomSound, rear Duo Camera with UltraPixel, 5MP front camera, 4G LTE, nanoSIM slot, and Android with HTC Sense. Sounds like a 2014 flagship to me.

The cameras specs in particular are listed as Duo Camera with UltraPixel on the back, BSI sensor, pixel size of 2.0um, F2.0 / 28mm lens, HTC ImageChip 2 with HDR video. The front camera is a 5MP BSI sensor, wide angle lens with HDR, 1080p video recording, and HTC Zoe.

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Who wants one?

Via:  eBay | GSMarena
  • Mchl496

    Back megapixel count please.

  • Jason

    waterproof/resistant?

  • roberthenderson

    Very fishy that the number of ultrapixels isn’t listed

  • Tony Richmond

    I’m reading this on my HTC One 😀

  • Waiting for Note 4

  • Maranello Santiago

    By the way, could HTC possibly have something to do with these leaks themselves or what?

  • Maranello Santiago

    With that SD card capability, these guys are trying to sway me. I might consider going back to HTC.

  • if they shrunk the black bar and shrunk the side bezels to nothing and the actual phone to a little smaller size or at least made the bat bigger id love everything about this phone…but they didnt…still i love me some metal n build quality

  • William

    The ultrapixel bs ruins probably what would be the phone of the year

  • mikeszekely

    I love my 2013 HTC One… after I flashed it with the GPE ROM, anyway. Because it turns out I love stock Android more than aluminum unibody.

    Actually, I love my 2013 HTC One that I’m not really feeling a strong urge to upgrade (which is really weird for me, usually I start to want a new phone in six months, and by now I’d already have the next one picked out).

  • cylonfracker

    SD Isn’t that expensive.. why not just ‘throw in’ a 128gb internal?

    • psychoace

      1. Microsd card at 128gb is $120. That’s pretty expensive. 2. They are typically slower then flash memory in phones. 3. They are not at production status to handle an order of a million+ of such units.

  • Brandon

    All the leaked photos I see all have different bezel size. For example some are really thin while others look as big as the HTC one. The leaked dummy phone the bezel looks horrible. So hopefully the bezel is on the thinner side. The thinner bezel just makes the phone look so much better.

  • Weber

    Need dis

  • ralph Malf

    Ill pass, i had these specs in 2013 with my lg g2 with a 3000mah battery and bigger screen

  • Chris

    decent specs. More then enough to replace my aging EVO LTE.

  • Tyler

    For all of you who think this is meh, just what did you expect? We are at a plateau of hardware advancement in terms of screen size/quality, storage, etc., the only hardware improvements will be incremental. Motorola understood this and tried to sell more on the experience (Touchless control, etc.) than the hardware. Samsung understands this, but they have gone so far down the S-road, there’s no turning back.

    • Chris

      Theres so much that can be done to a phone. Add in a bunch of crap and the price goes up….

    • steve

      I think it’s the fan boys slamming the S5 for offering nothing new while praising this phone which does the same thing. But hey at least samsung threw a scanner in and made it waterproof. Plus samsung was the only one who stayed true to the sd card and removable battery. I finally see htc getting the card right but no removable battery plus a 16 gb m8 compared to a 32 gb minimum S5. To me both these phones are great but really a G2, Z1, nexus 5, and Note 3 all have these specs from 6 month ago. Bring on the one plus one

  • nosedive94

    I think, aesthetics aside, I’d go with the S5, simply for the water-resistance.

    • Chris

      and you get free bandaids…

      • srqdude

        …that is the water resistance:-)

      • nosedive94

        That joke is becoming way too overused. I’m sure the so called “gold” S5 won’t sell very well, but I think that color is ugly on every phone, even the iPhone.

  • WCM3

    The guy sells Twilight and Hunger Games CD packs. How the hell did he get an “all new HTC one”..?

  • possomcrast1

    Hmm…Correct me if I’m wrong, but according to this from HTC’s website ( http://www.htc.com/www/zoe/ultrapixel-sensor-size/ ); 2um should imply an 8MP sensor…Either the second camera is 8 megapixels, or the main Ultrapixel has been updated to 8.

    • Franklin Ramsey

      That chart was showing you the size of the Normal 8MP sensor compared to their 4MP sensor, so sadly this doesn’t indicate which is in there. For all we know there could be a 13MP camera using larger sensors in it. I doubt they increase the MP size though.

      • possomcrast1

        I was referring to the box posted which shows 2um for the camera (meaning smaller pixels and a higher resolution) in comparison to the original HTC One which has 4um’s due to the larger pixel size.

        • Franklin Ramsey

          I understand what you are referring to. If you look at the data on the website you posted, that 2u that they have is for comparison to competitors. That doesn’t give us a reference to what could be in the new camera. You could have a 13MP camera with 2u or even 4u pixels or even larger. The size of the pixel doesn’t relate to the total amount of pixels.

          • Chris

            we’ll see soon enough…

          • Franklin Ramsey

            That we will. And I hope there is an 8MP sensor or larger in it. I’m just pointing out that we can’t figure out how many MP the sensor has based off the size of the Pixel.

          • possomcrast1

            Ah, ok. I guess you corrected me like I asked, then, ha ha.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            Don’t get me wrong, I hope you are right. Just, sadly can’t make that conclusion based on the pixel size.

    • tylerc23

      I see what your saying. I think your on to something

    • deskjob

      The 2um is the pixel size. Since pixels are square, 2*2 =4um^2 in pixel surface area. That’s what that graph is comparing. The OG One had the same 2um pixel size, which is significantly bigger than the “standard” camera on the other phones.

      The iPhone 5S took HTC’s cue but didn’t go all the way to the extreme – Apple went with 1.5um pixel size but at 8MP resolution. Honestly, it’s probably a better compromise than HTC’s all-out 4MP, if only for marketing purposes. 4MP is low enough that the general public who aren’t tech savvy will think it’s crap.

      It would be awesome if they did up the main camera to 8 MP at 2um pixel size though! From all the leaks so far, it doesn’t look good unfortunately. I feel like if they made such a big jump, they would’ve marketed the hell out of it by now.

  • tylerc23

    AHHHH I wish I would have seen this!!!!!

  • Jkdem85

    This phones gonna launch the same day or right after its announced. These leaks are typical for a phone days away from retail release not a month+

  • Sounds good to me, and now that Google released their launcher in the Play Store, Good-Bye Sense! Perfect upgrade from the GNex 🙂

    • Jacob

      I applaud you for still being able to use the GNex. Seriously, that is impressive.

      • Rooted and running CM 11 with an extended battery… the only way i can still use it. @jacobignagni:disqus bad experiences with it?

        • Jacob

          @rvarg007:disqus, not terrible, no. Just pretty darn old and most people hopped on the Moto X band wagon! Definitely still miss the nexus from time to time!

    • Chris

      sense is a still there. Theres no 100% way to get rid of it other then flashing a rom.

  • Suhas Vemuri

    Look at that fugly giant Verizon logo..

  • DERP

    What about the battery size?! The mAh size still hasn’t be detailed and that’s super important IMO.

    • Jared Denman

      2600mah

      • DERP

        Thanks!

  • DJ SPY

    $500 is a good price to me. Maybe I’ve been spoiled by the Nexus and Moto X but paying $600+ for a phone is utterly ridiculous.

  • master94

    5mp camera? It took a year to add 1 mp? WTF? No offense but even Apple does 8 with ultra pixel. Well we will see. This camera better blow me away. Nice to see the return of the Microsd card and 32GB of starting memory. 16Gb Samsung ships with is nothing these days

    • steve30x

      From what I understand the front facing camera is five megapixels

    • Franklin Ramsey

      First, the 5MP is the front camera. Second, Apple does not use ultra pixels. Lastly, we don’t know if 32GB is the starting memory. There could be a 16GB version too.

      • master94

        My bad, didnt read the front part. Actually Apple does use Ultrapixels, they just dont call them that. Check out their spec page for sensor info.

        • Franklin Ramsey

          I have checked out their spec page. Apple uses 8MP camera with 1.5µ pixels. Apple states they use “larger pixels” so I understand where your confusion lies. HTC’s 4MP camera users 4µ pixels so Apple’s are not even close to the “ultrapixel” size.

          • deskjob

            Actually HTC uses 2µ pixels – the 4µ^2 is the pixel surface area. It’s still significantly larger than 1.5µ pixels, which has an area of 2.25µ^2.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            Ah yes, I forgot they square it to get the full 4. I apologize.

  • Jason B

    DDR2 is strange, since the S800 series support LPDDR3, which has higher bandwidth for GPU performance. DDR2 does have lower memory latencies, but pure speed is supposed to cover DDR3’s deficiency in that regard.

    Typo?

    • Franklin Ramsey

      I doubt there would be that kind of a type on a retail box. The question would become can the S801 series even really take advantage of the higher bandwidth of DDR3? We’d assume so, but maybe DDR2 would show a difference and would be cheaper.

      • Jason B

        Well, LPDDR2-800 vs LPDDR3-1600 has benefits for the GPU, especially at 1080p. With LPDDR3-1600, 12.8GB/s are available to the Adreno 330. In certain forms, the S801 supports LPDDR3-1866, which provides even more bandwidth.

        If the Snapdragon 600 series shipped with DDR3-1600, you’d expect an S801 part to have DDR3 as well.

        • Franklin Ramsey

          I’m just saying, does it really use all 12.8GB/s of bandwidth? Yes, I know the benefits of having more bandwidth but if there are bottlenecks in other areas or if it can’t utilize all that bandwidth, there really isn’t a point to adding faster memory, just because. Just because there is increased bandwidth, doesn’t mean the GPU or CPU can max out what is there.

          • Jason B

            Considering the fact that Qualcomm is increasing clock speeds on the Adreno 330 in the S801, yes, more available bandwidth helps.

            Bandwidth limitations usually curtail GPU performance, so if you’re increasing the clock speed of the GPU, you don’t want to be waiting on the memory. It’ll just negate any clock speed increase.

            The general rule of thumb is that you should have more memory bandwidth than the SoC can realistically use. That prevents memory sub-system bottlenecks.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            But again, we don’t know if the current clock speeds can even match the available bandwidth. I understand that more bandwidth is better. I understand that increasing the clock speed would mean you can use more bandwidth.

            Let’s say that the clock speeds on the S801 can’t process more than 4GB/s. In that case, having memory that has bandwidth speeds of 12.8GB/s aren’t going to matter. So just saying, Yes we need more bandwidth in the memory because they are increasing the processing power doesn’t make it so. You keep saying they are increasing the clock speeds, but aren’t addressing the question of if those increased clock speeds can fill up the pipeline of bandwidth.

          • Jason B

            Then why even offer DDR3 if it provides no advantage? You’re not thinking about that Yes, in normal everday usage, normal DDR (1) would probably be sufficient. But, we’re at 1080p in phones and that taxes the memory.

            What does the GPU use for texture memory? System RAM. I don’t know why you’re arguing.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            Why offer DDR3 if it provides no advantage? Simple, it sounds better. Also, DDR3 is slightly more energy efficient. I am thinking about that. To tech people, if they know DDR3 is out, they want it. And you keep saying we’re at 1080p in phones, but I guess you aren’t thinking about how technology works. Just because a GPU has DDR3 memory for system memory, doesn’t mean it can max out the entire bandwidth which that memory has to offer. The GPU has to be able to process data fast enough to send it to memory or to whatever other process needs it. So just saying a phone is outputting 1080p which taxes the memory or saying the memory is used by the GPU still doesn’t give you an argument. Unless Qualcomm or a testing website or someone else tests how much information the chipset can process and we know that number, we don’t know if there is an actual benefit to having the increased bandwidth. Think about it, as I stated above, if the total amount of processing power of a chipset maxes out at 4GB/s then having more bandwidth isn’t necessary. So, in theory, if DDR2 maxes out at 6GB/s, DDR3 maxes at 12.8GB/s and the Chipset can’t process enough data to fill anything more than 4GB/s there isn’t a benefit to DDR3 except for saying it has DDR3 and possibly for using less energy.

            Also, keep in mind 2GB of LPDDR2 costs about $20 at bulk costs whereas 2GB of LPDDR3 costs about $30. So considering you can get a memory controller for $3-5 you would still see a cost savings. Again, at the expense of another part eating power.

            And I’m not arguing. I’m pointing out that we don’t know if there is any advantage to DDR3 when compared to DDR2 in mobile chipsets because no one (that I know of) has checked to see if it is capable of maxing out the bandwidth with the current chips. Yes, we know it is possible with Computers and laptops because we can benchmark the differences when using the same processor vs different memory. It’s been done. It hasn’t been done with Mobile chipsets yet.

          • Jason B

            Now you’re cracking me up. You do know that the old HTC One used LPDDR3, right? So, why go backwards? It’s a typo.

            Please read, and maybe learn something about the S801:
            http://www.anandtech.com/show/7846/the-difference-between-snapdragon-800-and-801-clearing-up-confusion

            The Adreno 330 is capable of over 130 GFLOPS (the 578MHz variants will be near 175-190), so if you don’t think DDR3 is necessary, Qualcomm certainly did.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            First off, the HTC One (according to the HTC website http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one/ ) used 2GB of DDR2 memory. But, sure I’m willing to admit it could be a typo.

            And I went ahead and read that article. No GFLOPS number in there. I realize how fast it is. I understand that DDR3 might be beneficial. I guess we will have to see what memory is actually in the phone. Keep in mind, leaked benchmarks point to the New HTC One being faster than the Galaxy S5. Both running a S801, both with 2GB of memory, so if that is the case, and the HTC One comes out with DDR2 memory, it would just support what I’m saying.

          • Jason B

            Oh yes, the S600 powered 2013 One does have DDR2. I didn’t feel the S600 was that big of a jump to warrant DDR3 (the GS4 has DDR3, but gains are negligible).

            First off, the theoretical max bandwidth for DDR3-1600 over a 64-bit dual channel (32×2) memory bus is 6.4GB/s, so half that for DDR2-800 (3.2GB/s). 12.8GB/s assumes a 128-bit wide bus (something the S805 has, not S801/S800). The S600 has a dual channel 32-bit wide bus (16×2), so half them again for that; DDR3-1600 is 3.2GB/s, DDR2-800 is 1.6GB/s. There, I found your bottleneck.

            HTC is just being cheap and relying on Qualcomm’s bus-width improvements.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            Again, I know where the potential bottlenecks are. I know what the max theoretical speeds are. I’m not concerned with those. I’m worried about what actually can happen.

            So if the benchmarks that have leaked are correct, the HTC One 2014 edition gets higher scores in AnTuTu than the Samsung S5. Both have the same chipset in them, but the S5 has DDR3 memory and if the Box isn’t a type, the HTC One 2014 edition runs DDR2. So If the memory was actually the bottle neck, the HTC should be slower, not faster. What I’m saying is we know what everything can do, in theory. I’m saying what are the actual numbers it can push out? We don’t exactly know. If we were going by theory, IF the HTC One 2014 comes with DDR2, it’s benchmarks would be slower than the S5. Since that isn’t the case, if the leaked benchmarks are correct, that either means something besides the memory is causing the bottleneck, or DDR2 is faster than DDR3. We know the latter shouldn’t be the case, so that means that something else is causing the Bottleneck and HTC putting cheaper DDR2 memory into the system isn’t just them being cheap.

            You keep arguing that increasing the bandwidth of the bus increases the performance of the system. I’m arguing that is only true if the rest of the system can match it. Let’s think about it in another way. If you have a two lane highway that can handle 1000 cars an hour but only 500 cars an hour travel on your highway, you aren’t going to upgrade to a three lane highway that can handle 1500 cars an hour.

  • Dave

    F2.0 isn’t that great for aperture. Most high end Samsung are 1.8 and without checking I believe the iSight that launched on the iphone4 was 1.6-1.4. Other stats look nice, I wonder how large a 5″ screen phone will be with front speakers.

    • Grayson

      Um… the iPhone 4 had an F/2.8 aperture lens, the iPhone 5S has an F/2.2 lens, and the Galaxy S4 and Note 3 have F/2.4 lenses.

      • Dave

        Gotcha….I think I had my ones and twos twisted….LoL.

      • Dave

        My wife is a professional photographer, I may have a little too much jargon floating around in my skull.

      • Dave

        Thanks for the correction, I think I got my ones and twos messed up.

  • Drew

    Nope, don’t want one. I got my Moto X with 3GB of RAM and Snapdragon 810. It’s the best phone for everybody out there.

    • Sqube

      Um… did you now.

    • Maxim∑

      Didn’t know you worked for qualcomm and made/released your own S810!

    • jboogie1289

      Hmm, a Motosung XNote 1.3 perhaps?? No snap for the processor claim.

    • Kevin

      My Moto X is better than yours.

  • lensgrabber

    Let’s hope whoever bought this posts some pictures taken from the rear cameras. That’s what I want to see.

  • OneForTheGoodDays

    Am i not reading it right… Where are the specs for the back camera pixel wise

    • Sqube

      The lack of name makes me think that it could very well be dual 4mpx shooters, especially if it’s got those 2.0 micron pixels.

  • Rodeojones000

    I will be buying the crap out of a Google Play Edition of this.

    • lensgrabber

      By release time the Oppo Find7 will be released but so far this HTC is looking pretty good for a GE purchase.

      • Rodeojones000

        I’m a Verizon customer. Pretty sure the Oppo isn’t an option for me.

        Sent from my LG G2

        • lensgrabber

          um, well, then there’s that.

        • grumpyfuzz

          How will you use a Google Play edition on verizon?

          • Rodeojones000

            Guess I’m assuming there will be a GPE for Verizon, much like there’s a GPE Moto X for Verizon. If not, no big deal. I’ll stick with my G2.

          • grumpyfuzz

            I think you are mistaking developer edition Moto X for Verizon with a GPE. There is no Moto X GPE

          • Rodeojones000

            I’m an idiot. I honestly didn’t know there was a difference. Thanks for the info.

          • grumpyfuzz

            Haha, you’re not an idiot! We all make mistakes 😛

          • Chris

            @Rodeojones000:disqus like any android stock fanboy will cry, throw a huge fit and start sending death threats to Verizon and google.

          • grumpyfuzz

            I have no idea what your point is.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            No one ever seems to know what his points are.

    • PoisonApple31

      Well at least the camera sensors with be on par with the stock camera software; it’s crap.

      • Rodeojones000

        When making a list of things important to me in a phone, camera is at the absolute bottom. I couldn’t care less about the camera software. Having been a smartphone user since the OG Droid days I estimate I’ve taken less than 30 photos with my phones.

        • flosserelli

          Just about any $100+ P&S camera will take much better photos than a camera phone, but a lot of people simply cannot afford both. Their phone is their only camera.

          • deskjob

            Totally agree. It’s like debating which moped has a faster 1/4 mile when any decent bike will smoke it.

            Although the phone does have one big advantage over a cheap P&S – it’s almost always with you. And it’s hella easy to share online with a phone compared to most cameras which don’t have built-in data connections.

          • PoisonApple31

            Unless you are a professional photographer, or carry a purse around with you at all times, I cannot imagine carrying around a P&S and a phone. It’s just like those people that carry around an iPod and an Android phone – what the hell are you doing!

    • Chris

      yet no one cares…

  • Stephen

    The camera is the one thing I really want to know more about. I have the One from last year and the 4 MP/Ultrapixel camera STINKS! That is really the only bad thing on my phone. I REALLY hope HTC bumps it up to an 8 MP/Ultrapixel for the 2014 version. Otherwise you end up with a phone that is only 80% ready to compete with Apple and Samsung!

  • PoisonApple31

    Just watch Verizon mess up this release date and push it out in August again this year!

    • Chris

      so they can add their logo to the front and back!

  • Miguel

    If HTC gets their act together this phone will sell really well this year, this is the right opportunity for them since Sammy didn’t capitalize when they had the chance by releasing the S5s.

    • Nexoduss

      No we cant.

    • Chris

      Nope. Decision is still up to Google and they may be getting rid o that silly nexus program.

  • Michael Shorey

    i will be getting this on t-mobile

  • MH

    I dont get the all the hype about this device.

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      Choice my friend. What device are you excited about?

      • MH

        None, currently.

        • Fozzybare

          well you’re no fun!

          • MH

            HTC: Yawn. The S5 was a disappointment. The last phone I was genuinely excited for was the Note 3.

          • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

            Which phone do you have?

          • MH

            Note 3 currently. Had a N5 as well, but sold it.

          • joe

            note 3 user as well, running long and strong

          • Nathan Bryant

            Besides recording in 4K, bigger battery, and screen, these phones are matching it and if not better in the camera department. I own a Note 3 and like it, but I’m curious to know what more did you expect in a realistic way?

          • MH

            Less HTC gimmickery, I guess.

          • chocolate8175

            I’m holding my breath for the follow up to the G2 personally…

        • Dave

          Ditto, there is nothing on the market I’d trade my GN2 for currently.

          • grumpyfuzz

            Not even the GN3?

          • Dave

            It’s awesome, don’t get me wrong. I’ve used one, but at $649 I couldn’t justify it to myself.

      • The Narrator

        Well considering only a 2600 mAh . And DDR2, 4mp, disappointing.

        • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

          Original One had 2300 Mah and it lasted me all day no problem, I didn’t think about it. My Nexus 5 has a 2300 and it makes me paranoid because it doesn’t last as long. I think 2600 will be fine for HTC.

          • The Narrator

            Eh. After being spoiled with big batteries, and 5-6 hour screen on. I can’t do it.

          • grumpyfuzz

            I get 5-6 hours of screen on time on my Nexus 5. I must be doing something right!

          • Tim242

            That is a lie…

          • grumpyfuzz

            Actually, it’s not a lie. If you consider using a custom kernel a “lie”, then you’re right.

          • Tim242

            Screen shot?

          • grumpyfuzz

            Don’t have any screenshots ATM, as I never took a screenshot of my battery life. I will get back to you 😉

          • Aooga

            Just look at the battery thread on XDA. Some people even got 7hrs.

          • Chris

            Given @grumpyfuzz:disqus said custom kernel, its gonna be different then those silly threads on that site.

          • Tim242

            I have looked through.those hundreds of pages in the past when it was brought up. There was nothing anywhere close.

          • Aooga
          • Tim242

            There is so much wrong with that. The display on time was almost 8 hours, but used only 44% of the battery??? You know that is a load of crap. There was no browser usage. Also, I’m supposed to believe that this person only used tapatalk for almost 8 hours of screen on, and it only used 44%, of the battery? Not to mention, this is the only example of such….get outta here with that

          • Ravishing Rick Rude

            http://imgur.com/4vy5Il5
            http://imgur.com/zMS473B

            I can get around 5 hours everyday with my n5 on auto brightness.

          • Chris

            I think my EVO LTE has 2200 and that’s lasted me most of the day as well.

          • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

            And that’s before they refined sense ui

          • deskjob

            2600 will most likely be fine. But it won’t be outstanding, which is what HTC needs to be right now. I feel like people will be willing to overlook the infamous black bar if that extra size translated into a big ass battery. It’s weird though, with S5 getting 2800mah and S4 2600mah before. It’s like HTC is determined to be about 10% lower than Samsung for no apparent reason.

            The other thing to consider is the natural battery degradation, which is probably +/- 10% per year, depends on usage patterns. With sealed batteries, you can’t just throw in a new one after a year or two. But then again, if you get a new phone every year or two, I guess it’s somewhat moot.

    • Miguel

      The fact that this is the best hardware on Android, the speakers, the micro SD (up to 128), those are a few things to get people exited since Sammy flopped with their S5.

      • MH

        I agree about the S5. It wasnt much to be excited about. Lots of gimmicks, not a lot of hardware advancent. But I’d argue the S5 is still the better device of these two. I’ll be honest, the boomsound isnt much better than a properly loud phone speaker. SD card stuff has been done. I guess I’ll wait for the note 4

        • BroRob

          How is the Note 4 going to be better? I haven’t seen many rumors on it so far. I assume it’s more a preference thing…

          With all due respect:
          I guess if you want to walk around with a Nexus 7 glued to your face,.. Bro, seen my new phablet? Its phabulous! 😉

          • MH

            By the time it comes out, they’ll have a new SOC. It will have a bigger screen (likely 5.9″) in a slightly smaller (or same size) device.

            Anyway, it’s nowhere near the size of a 7. Like, not even close. Hell, I’ve seen 5’1 100lb women carrying note 3’s. Its not THAT big a device.

          • BroRob

            Hey buddy, I said “With all due respect” that means I can say what I want without fear of retaliation!

            I did see one spec that caught my attention… WATERPROOF. I hike, camp, canoe, all that good stuff so I’ll definitely be looking at that Note 4 close to release time.

          • Chris

            It will be out bythe fall and only a short few months after that, we’ll be ready for the S6 and the 2015 HTC ONE.

          • Tim242

            A Note looks tiny compared to a Nexus 7…

        • Chris

          what phone supports up to 128gb of sd storage space? Most only go up to 32GB. A few may go up to 64GB but not many

      • PoisonApple31

        The second phone of 2014, hard to get excited about it. Last year’s specs with a new processor, yawn.

        • Chris

          what do you expect? a phone loaded with crap that will only up the price a few hundred?

          • PoisonApple31

            If I’m going to upgrade year after year like I have been doing lately, I want the internals to exceed what I currently have – not beat it or come close to it marginally – make the full price worth it. As for those cheap ass phones like the Moto X and Nexus 5, I would consider one only if I broke my daily driver first.

    • Chris

      because Android is about choice. Theres much more to Android then silly nexus devices, Google play editions and moto x’s

      The HTC ONE has the best hardware. No silly plastic.

  • Ashley Eldridge

    Me too me too I want one so bad…

  • adrianc14

    Wth does the ultrapixel camera specs mean?

    • flosserelli

      I saw that too. No megapixel equivalent, just “Duo Camera with UltraPixel BSI sensor”. It’s as if HTC is ashamed to reveal the camera specs.

      • adrianc14

        Most likely. Putting 4mp or ultrapixel on the back the box will surely deter people to the S5’s 16mp camera.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          Unfortunately, the public has been entranced with the “higher is better” paradigm, whether that is factually true or not.
          Not saying that’s true in this case, but explaining nuances isn’t really marketing’s gig.

      • Brendan

        Or that’s the standard they made and it doesn’t make sense to put it onto another scale because they don’t work the same way.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          To me it’s the same thing as the arbitrary “Retina” display moniker. It’s all about the marketing, baby.

        • flosserelli

          Which is my point. It is a marketing ploy to detract from what is likely the same sensor technology from a year ago (for the main camera). If this new camera system fails to show distinct improvement in noise reduction and overall capability over the OG One, HTC will have a long road to profitability. Buyers expect a new flagship phone to be significantly better than the old model…which may still be the case, no one really knows yet. I am not trying to sound like I am hating on this phone. I genuinely want to see it succeed. Competition benefits all consumers, and if HTC fails as a company, that means less competition.

          • deskjob

            Agreed. The fact that there hasn’t been any info in all those leaks about possibly higher resolution ultrapixel camera doesn’t bode well… To be honest, I think 8MP @ 2µm is a nice sweet spot for phones. Enough resolution for digital zoom/cropping/down-sampling with not too crazy big file size at native res.

            Yeah we need more competition. Just look at what T-mobile has been able to do!

    • K

      Since they reveal the front camera has a 5MP sensor but don’t say anything about the rear MP, then my guess is that it’s still 4MP…but duo.

  • wagner

    Micro SD is making a comeback!

    • Open1Your1Eyes0

      Much respect to HTC for this!

    • Maj

      OEMs are finally seeing the light. Now they need to put back user replaceable batteries plus optional extended ones.

      • The Narrator

        Why? When its 3000+, no need too.
        But i see. Buy the lower quality product with more useless/useful features.

        • Ben Landwehr

          Maybe so.. But this phone is not 3,000+. So this comment is kind of moot on this thread.

          • Wait, how do you know that?

          • Ben Landwehr

            I thought leaked specs showed it was either 2,600 or 2,800 in a different post on here? I could be imaging that, though.

          • Rob

            It has been speculated/rumored to be 2600. Seen in numerous leaks.

        • jdi

          I have enough phones and laptops with Li-ion batteries that degrade in capacity enough within the useable lifespan of the device. A simple replacement of the battery is a nice quick fix that can be done by the user.

      • acton

        Ya, I have enough experiences where the battery capacity degraded enough to warrant a new one. Of course, I just had to live with the shorter battery life of the phones that didn’t have replaceable batteries. With lithium-ion batteries, you never really know when the capacity will drop.

        • Cory

          Yeah you do.

      • Trueblue711

        Gotta thank Samsung for this one. They’re the only one who insisted on keeping the SD card.

        • Cory

          Gotta blame Samsung for insisting on using outdated tech

          • roberthenderson

            Yes, those of us who don’t always have a reliable connection or carry a ton of stuff on our phones shouldn’t have a logical inexpensive network independent storage option. Nutbag

          • John Davids

            Well said

      • Chris

        mmmm thick huge bricks

      • NemaCystX

        actually its because of the better control over it with KitKat

        • lowe

          Too bad that means less control over external storage by the user.

      • michael arazan

        I might actually buy an HTC phone for the first time in my life

    • Jason

      Hopefully they don’t gimp it. It seems Google decided to gimp external storage support in KitKat:
      http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/02/17/external-blues-google-has-brought-big-changes-to-sd-cards-in-kitkat-and-even-samsung-may-be-implementing-them/

      If HTC changes this new external storage policy back to the original one where the user has full control of the card then I’d consider getting the new One.

      • idne

        I wonder if Google’s new “security” policy will prevent unauthorized remote access to your storage on Samsung devices:
        http://redmine.replicant.us/projects/replicant/wiki/SamsungGalaxyBackdoor

        • alan

          Wow, Samsung put a backdoor in devices. That sucks.

        • but thanks though

          Unless this is in there for the error reporting function…

          • Tom

            Error reporting doesn’t involve ANY remote party being able to read your stored local data.

    • moelsen8

      we can only hope.

    • d-rock

      I think you’re seeing this back because of KitKat’s security changes to microSD cards. Yes it’s inconvenient, but if it adds more storage expansion then awesome!

      • kevin

        Google calls it “security” ahahahaha.

    • TheFirstUniverseKing

      Easily the most exciting feature of this device. Now the S5 and the new One have more than just ugly bezels in common.

      • Tim242

        Read only…

    • Tim242

      Except for they will be read only…

    • Hamza Salau

      Micro SD:”Don’t call it a comeback! I’ve been here for years”

  • Mike Lee

    Looks like it’s going to be an amazing phone. I’ve had the HTC One since September and it’s been a great phone to use. Was an upgrade from the Galaxy Nexus.

  • Alexander Z Great

    I want htc one two too! Especially for $500 on eBay!

    • tk

      Just one HTC One Two?

  • flosserelli

    This has to be scam. I just knew the item description would say “retail box only” or something similar, but I didn’t see it.

  • Ray

    probably a dummy unit lol

    • Brendan

      No, that was the OTHER device that was sold today.

  • I want one one

  • Edoardo Maggio

    I need to know how that apparently gimmicky Duo Camera actually works.

  • BOB Dudek

    Storage is enough?

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      I mean it’s 32GB with SD slot. Not sure what more people would want. I’m assuming there’s also a 64GB like last year which I doubt the carriers will get…..unless its an At&t exclusive again.

      • Jason Downing

        He may have been implying that the storage in itself is a selling point. I could be wrong though.

  • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

    BSI sensor, pixel size of 2.0um, F2.0 / 28mm lens, HTC ImageChip 2 with HDR video —> I don’t have big understanding of camera specs but is this similar to the “Ultrapixel” last year?

    • gambit07

      Agreed, can someone with more knowledge in this area chime in as to what, if anything, would make this an improvement over last years ultrapixel camera (Besides the addition of the extra lens which offers other features).

      • Justtyn Hutcheson

        The secondary camera lens can be used to do several different things. You can use it to set a secondary focus point, and use the difference to interpolate and extrapolate the bokeh of a “real” lens. You can use the second image to “verify” or “enchance” the resolution of the first image to gain better detail and assist with noise suppression, especially at higher ISOs. You can use it for faster HDR shots by varying the exposure for each image and combining them. Or, you could do any of the above together to do some really interesting things.

        In other words, the second sensor, *With The Right Software*, can make a huge difference in image quality, speed, and detail retention, even if the absolute resolution isn’t bumped at all. There are limits of course, but whether they matter or not is a different discussion entirely.

        • Franklin Ramsey

          Well, right now, you assume those are what they will be doing. None of that functionality has been verified, but that is what we think the second camera lens will be used for since there have been multiple dual lens systems being see recently that offer those abilities.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            Correct. Sorry if it was unclear that those were potential improvements rather than verified ones.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            I was just pointing that out just in the off chance someone saw it and ran with it like it was gospel.

    • LionStone

      Yes, similar but there is an increase in the mp of the front camera, and added HDR on the front cam. There’ll probably also be Optical Image Stabilization like the OG ONE. I’m hoping for maybe optical zoom on the new One. The rest we don’t know.

      • LocBox

        Na they didn’t change it. Anytime a company says a lot to say a little, then they didn’t do a thing. Notice everything else is in explicit detail until we hit “Duo Camera with Ultrapixel”; TF is that..?

  • Menger40

    How could the seller have gotten his hands on this? Employee theft?

    • Cael

      HTC left it in a bar.

    • The Narrator

      I’ll pull fingerprints when it arrives /s

    • the seller is in South Ozone Park, NY that’s right next to JFK airport…. maybe unloaded off of cargo? That’s very common in Miami Airport (uncle worked there for about 25 years… you hear stories)

    • Dan DeMarco

      These aren’t in retail locations yet, surely can confirm that.

    • Tinfoil hat ARMED

      Either HTC is completely incompetent or a lot of these leaks are sprung by HTC themselves.

  • Jason Downing

    GPE edition? Yes please.

    Also, does it now have on screen buttons as featured in the picture on the box?

    • Sure does. 🙂

      • Jason Downing

        If that’s the case, I might be OK with a custom launcher and some root.

    • Ben Murphy

      Do you even Internet? On-screen has been known for sometime.

      • Jason Downing

        Great comment pal.

  • Ramana

    More surprising is they have the carrier versions ready to go. Can they pull an apple and say available tomorrow?

    • I really hope so. We’ve now seen both Verizon and T-Mo already.

      • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

        Hey Kellen are those specs on the camera similar to the Original One?:

        • Austin

          Well, the One (2013) had a 4 ultrapixel camera. This one has a 5 UP, so there is only a small difference. Remember, the first phone to have this 5 MP sensor is the OG Droid (2008)…which is about 6 years now.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            The front camera is 5MP, the rear camera is “Duo Camera with Ultrapixels”. No absolute number is mentioned, nor is a max resolution stated anywhere.

          • jboogie1289

            This is what I was going to say. 5MP is a HELL OF A LOT for a front facing lens. Not too shabby if that’s correct. I guess 2 MP is going to become a thing of the past. Lol.

          • Cael

            now if they can only leave their 4mp camera in the past…

          • Pratik Holla

            Question is why would you want a 5Mp front facing camera?

          • Franklin Ramsey

            Better selfies.

          • TylerChappell

            Like totes duh!

          • chocolate8175

            Totes mcgotes!!!

          • roberthenderson

            Much higher quality self portraits

          • roberthenderson

            Fishy

          • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

            5mp is the front camera. Not the back.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          The rear camera is really hard to tell. They use Ultrapixel to mask the absolute resolution, so they could be using a larger chip in the main sensor, or using twin Ultrapixel sensors to overlay and multiply the apparent resolution in software. It’s one of the few things that hasn’t leaked is what the end photos look like as far as MP are concerned.

    • wolfedude88

      I hope so but since when has apple done that on phones?

      They are usually two weeks out which is still really good.

  • jxcgunrunna

    I want one!